Star Citizen's New CPU King? | 9700X Review

Is the new Ryzen 7 9700X the new CPU king of Star Citizen? Can it beat the 7800X3D? How about PBO, SMT? I've compared it with loads of other CPU's: 7700X, 13700KF, 5800X3D, 5600, 11400, 10400 and 3600!
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Star Citizen Alpha 3.23.1
Resolution 1080p
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[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Anyone planning on buying one of these?

[@lucienlachence]

maybe if 9700x3D released

[@branchprediction9923]

hell nah, zen 5%

[@jimashby43]

@@tenpoundfortytwo I think for most of us after hearing that is a NO. But does show that the New x3D might actually be a great chip if it tops today's numbers.

[@randymorris5296]

I'm still sitting pretty with my 12700k

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@@randymorris5296 in hindsight, a very wise choice on the intel side!

[@Reds_Resort]

Nicely done dude. Great information as always. Hope you enjoyed your holiday o7

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Thanks!

[@ghenghisprawn6034]

I had a feeling the changes to it's front end and l1 cache may specifically help Star Citizen where other games don't see any improvement. This should translate to another small bump in performance for the 9800x3d. I figured you might just skip the 9700x review since it wasn't seeing much improvement in other reviews except for few games here and there. Kudos to you for getting one and testing it for us, as always, you're the ultimate SC performance tester.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah I thought i'd like to see how it performed, but the 9800X3d should be much more exciting! Thanks for the kind words!

[@ghenghisprawn6034]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Looks like there's a bug in windows where you won't get the best performance out of zen 5 unless you activate and use the administrator account. This doesn't apply to an account with admin privilege's, apparently the administrator account has some elevated privilege's that give better performance. Hardware Unboxed has a video on it that dropped today. Would be interesting to see if you have better results using this same method.

[@iamthesentinel584]

I bought a 5800x *right* before the 5800x3d came out, so maybe once the 9800x3d comes out I'll upgrade to that or the 7800x3d.

[@unpacker9521]

Eh just wait for 10800x3d or whatever the last x3d cpu for am5 platform. Based on reviews so far 9800x3d wont be a big improvement. Hopefully intel will pressure amd to improve their next product.

[@travisco13]

Hey I love your videos but could you make one where you benchmark a few cpus at Lorville for example, the route from bed to the ship spawn temrinals but including the frametime graph? Because I am always interested how the frametimes look like with each cpu, how much they stutter and such :D Maybe also with different Ram speed and sizes

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah I occasionally do frame time graphs, but yeah i should show a proper look at these cpu's!

[@thePrisoner1000]

Thanks for the comparison of CPUs.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

No problem!

[@lucienlachence]

im planning to stay on my 7800x3d

[@Ziptie5]

me too. beast value chip

[@jinz0]

Won't be powerful enough

[@jinz0]

@hawky2k215 nope few years

[@jinz0]

@hawky2k215 yea but it's below par in couple years

[@jinz0]

@hawky2k215 nope

[@RifRafJonesy]

Great work. I love the way you highlight the CPU you're talking about on the graph.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Thanks, yeah trying to get better at that sort of thing!

[@nathanforrester5140]

well, it did a better job than I thought was going to do. I agree just get a 7800x3d or wait to see what they do with the 9800x3d. Perhaps they will surprise us and it will be a nice bump in performance.

[@Deathtrooper177]

I have this cpu, and I can definitely see a in game difference I approve

[@CrazyDude5]

I knew I'd be right about the next vid. Keep up the great work 👍

[@echo5827]

Didn't know the 7700x beat the 5800x3d by so much, too bad they couldnt make that jump again with the 9700x. I guess we can expect around another 10-15% with x3d vs 7800 Unless they can stack 3d cache on the whole chip and make us buy 9950x

[@TimothyStovall108]

Would like to know the testing parameters. My 5800X3D/7900 XTX averages around 60FPS going through Area 18 and other cites. Sometimes going higher, and dipping lower, but my over all FPS is well above 60FPS at 4K maxed out settings, except for volumetric clouds set on very high, which does bring things down a little at Orison, but its so worth it to me, as I find Orison so beautiful.

[@James-w5h3c]

Just finished a build using the 9700x and the 7900xt. I'm quite pleased with the performance. Still trying to decide if I want to give any money to Star Citizen. If I have to play at 1080p with this setup then that will be a no.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Should be able to push 4K with FSR on with the 7900XT! I'd wait for the next free flight to try the game for free if you're not sure!

[@James-w5h3c]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Sounds like a plan.

[@124thDragoon]

the inclusion of the 3600, 5600, and 5800X3D on these charts was a very wise decision. Great stuff.

[@MackyMus]

Thank you, I really value the work you do and I hope people appreciate it. I have a lowly i5-10400 and I'm currently happy, but someday I will get a 7800x3d to experience the verse I've always dreamed of. Thanks again.

[@phoboss4381]

Nice benchmark, Could you please add the memory cache for each CPU in the comparison chart in your next video it will help understand and confirm the why.

[@ruud1025]

Can't wait to see the 9800x3d

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Same, hopefully it doesn't take too long to arrive!

[@Gen_X_Player]

Cheers mate

[@Tainted-Soul]

going on the fps increase from 7700x to the 9700x we should see about the same from the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d which will make it a little faster a new build option but not an upgrade from a 7800x3d lol maybe the next 10800x3d or 11800x3d what ever they call it I would like to see the 9950x3d ( on both chips ) but not going to happen

[@MrDazTroyer]

My recent upgrade from a 10700k to 7800x3d gave me almost double the frames in Area 18.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Big upgrade!

[@jimashby43]

Mmm, kinda had a slight idea that was going to be the case with all the Discord discussions.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah unfortunately this CPU isn't really anything amazing!

[@asog88]

I’ll be excited for the 9800x3d

[@518UN4]

Im on a 5800x3D and I am itching to upgrade. I can't wait to see the 9800x3Ds performance.

[@TANIL-X]

7800x3D is still BEST gaming CPU

[@JagHiroshi]

"all our dreams .... and our nightmares" 😂

[@rinkaemina]

go for Ryzen 7 7800X3D, for 9700X price, it will be same just like 7800X3D because tax and store extra price

[@wezzla]

People are comparing 9700X (65W) to 7700X (105W), but a more fair comparison would be 7700 (65W). I bet AMD has something hotter (105W) in the pipeline that will fill the gap between 9700X and 9800X3D.

[@BboyCorrosive]

CIG: hey guys, instead of optimizing the game, can we just wait several years for the latest top of the line CPU to run our game at 50 fps

[@sphaera3809]

It would be interesting to see if more cores bring more benefits than a fast cache? How would the 9950X compare??

[@theREALgamerMAN]

Saw this video and got real worried! Just ordered my new pc with a 7800x3d

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

You're good!

[@theREALgamerMAN]

@@tenpoundfortytwo I’ve paired it with the 4070 super aero 12gb oc. Apparently they pair well and can do 4K gaming. Watched your video about 4K and needing a 4080 but my wallet quickly slapped that idea out my head 🤣

[@FrazzleCat]

Always been that disabling SMT decreases performance in some game & increases in others. Also enabling PBO is the same result here as seen elsewhere, giving a few percent bump in performance in exchange for a much higher power draw. It's not really worth it IMO but that's an individual call. Me, I'd rather undervolt my CPU to get the same minor uplift for less power.

[@cpt.tombstone]

WEEOO, here we go!

[@JynxedKoma]

I went to go purchase the 9950X on the 16th of Aug from OCUK but it's been out of stock ever since that day. I'm still waiting for them even now, to get more stock so my order can be fulfilled. Apparently they have no ETA either.

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

personally i think its a windows 11 issue with zen 5 chips being a new architecture and windows not fully supporting it yet . similar with alder lake when it launched, it sucked until they fixed core parking.

[@ImreBertalan86]

Holy sh*t, you've got one? Damn... I want one too 😁 So, the 9700X beats everything from before, including the 5800X3D.... I don't think I should upgrade to 5800X3D and jump straight to AM5 and 9000th series.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep managed to get one! Ah I don't know, upgrading to am5 will cost a lot more than the 5800X3D in total!

[@dibdab699]

Wait - my Ryzen 9 7950X£D doesn't even make the list - this feels bad...

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

I sold mine! Basically the same as the 7800X3D!

[@Swatmat]

the newer x3ds coming are the one to watch

[@BernhardMarchhart]

What is with the 7950X3D ? have you tested this CPU?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

I tested one when it first came out- performs pretty much the same as the 7800x3d!

[@chrisvandijk99]

did you see hardware unboxed, you gain fps by running W11 24H2 build 26100, maybe more increase there to gain

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep, planning to do some testing at some point!

[@MrSiciro]

Amd will increase the TDP from 64 to 105 so do the tests again

[@DeathDealer100000000]

There is a windows bug that causes about a 10 fps loss for ryzen, need to test in administrator account, not user with admin. Windows are going to roll out a fix in the near future.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah I just watch the HUB video- very interesting, hopefully the fix will roll out soon!

[@simonriley8908]

Still sitting pretty with the 7800x3d 🤙

[@RonPaulBot1234]

Some manual OC ? heard you can really push it

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah I might try to push it further, but I don't think there will be much more performance to be had!

[@mrJMD]

Hey TenPound, I finally was able to build myself a new computer very recently upgrading from a machine I built in 2012 (yeah, I know!). Going by your testing and recommendations it's a 5800x3d with a 4060gtx and 32gb of 4000mts memory and I am VERY HAPPY with it. I'm a 1k res guy and so far the game has been running amazingly well. I do have a question though, I constantly hear about the SC's instability and bugs and granted I've only been playing for about 30-40 hours, but my play has been, well, completely bug free. For a moment one time when an elevator door opened there was nothing but a black void but I just went to different floor, then back to where I wanted and everything as fine. I do have a very fast internet connection, is it that plus a purpose-built SC machine that is making so few bugs pop up? I've just been hearing so many complaints about bugs for years now, am I perhaps just lucky and I need to shut my stupid face about it and thank the gods who have blessed me? Anyways, thanks man! This computer is making this Canadian very very happy!

[@mattin5850]

I wonder if its worth running star citizen at 1440p with DLDSR ( 1.78x or 2.25x) to 4k or so and then dlss, it seems to introduce a lot of ghosting, especially on bright surface compared to nights sky

[@xxmeanyheadxx]

any chance you can review the 7900x3d for star citizen?

[@James-w5h3c]

I would still like to know how these CPUs stack up at 1440p & 4k.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

CPU's will be in the same order at different resolutions- you are testing the GPU once you start to play at 1440p and 4k

[@James-w5h3c]

@@tenpoundfortytwo I want to know what the frame rates are at those resolutions since those are the resolutions I'll be playing at. Is that so hard to understand?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@@James-w5h3c that's quite a large job! Testing of a CPU is normally done at 1080p, it's a bit pointless to test a 1440p and 4k, because you're then testing the GPU. What GPU do you have? I can tell you that with a 4080 in the cities you'll average the same at 1440p and just a bit less at 4k. You can check out the 4080 video if you want to see how that performs at different resolutions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3OmmIV6aqurfZY And this one explores the relationship between CPU and GPU bottlenecks at 1440p and 4k: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKfEhZKml9Wkb8k

[@James-w5h3c]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Don't have a dedicated GPU just yet. Console gamer building out a new game PC. Currently running the PC off the iGPU while I save for a dGPU. Hoping that the 8700xt/8800xt, whatever they chose to call it, will come out this year. 4080 performance, including RT, at a 500-600 dollar price point is would be great if true. If not then I'll likely be settling for a 7900xt.

[@_Kaurus]

Your first two slides show 20% more Minimum FPS, which is absolutely huge my friend. the 9700x is a great option for Star citizens and far better than a 7700x, even beating the 7800x3d for minimums. The only problem is the price point.

[@PatEagle787]

What??? The 1% low improvements between the 7700X and 9700X in the first two slides was 8% at best.

[@James-w5h3c]

Are people really playing Star Citizen at 1080p?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

A lot more than you might think!

[@blublublabla4545]

No 1440p?? Yes it will put the CPU's even closer but who plays in 1080p today?

[@jackinthebox301]

The point of testing 1080p is to give you the maximum FPS that processor can generate. Check out GPU reviews to get what the max frame rate would be at 1440.

[@blublublabla4545]

@@jackinthebox301 i know that, but nobody plays in that resolution. Why not have an actual real game scenario next to it? If you are not playing in 1080p its purely to show what the cou is capable of, not an actual gaming scenario

[@jackinthebox301]

@@blublublabla4545 because this isn’t about an actual gaming scenario necessarily. This is about the max FPS the processor can push. Think of it like the theoretical maximum. Oh and 1080p is still the resolution used by the majority of pc gamers. So you’re wrong there.

[@Cin3q]

​@@jackinthebox301cool! Now i need just to wait for new gpu to show up to check what real fps i can gain just by swapping cpu. Jesus... Its always such a mental gimnastic to get simple info.

[@jackinthebox301]

@@Cin3q lol dude. Do you even hear yourself? How hard is it for you to hold on to two pieces of information? So you look up CPU performance on a game and it says 100fps at 1080p. Next you look up your GPU performance at 1440p; which is 65fps. What do you think the FPS you’re going to get will be?

[@PatEagle787]

Zen 5%. Literally. I'm not excited at all for the upcoming 9800X3D which will very likely only yield another 2-5% on top of the 7800X3D, lol. Intel Arrow Lake being faster than both Zen4 X3D and Zen5 X3D now sounds very plausible. AMD put themselves in a weak spot with their 9000 series.

[@jckl9884]

9700x perform better on linux

[@Planum.]

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