Two survivors of a devastated planet remained committed to destroying one another (Let That Be Your Last Battlefield)
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@eugenemulhern79463 жыл бұрын
This episode featured phenomenal work by two of the greatest(and sadly, under appreciated)character actors who ever lived: Frank Gorshin and Lou Antonio
@TeChNoWC7 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the level of acting prowess here is nuts, I’m taken aback
@buddhaspriest Жыл бұрын
Damnit, we were too committed to hatred to see!
@charleswest6372 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Frank was the Riddler in Batman 1966 tv series
@anthonydileonardo8156 Жыл бұрын
Antonio was cast as Fredo Corleone. but the terms were so bad, he walked
@Sirenhound Жыл бұрын
Some people hate what stares back at them in the mirror, but these two would take it to a whole new level.
@masamune2984 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@Neon-ws8er Жыл бұрын
wait yeah thats actually true. thats how he would see himself in the mirror. how would that even work? imagine an old racist redneck seeing a black guy when he looks at the mirror. how could he still be so racist?
@sandal_thong86312 ай бұрын
Just thinking the same thing about the mirror. They must not have mirrors, but viewscreens that show them the "correct" way.
@Dark_JaguarАй бұрын
@@sandal_thong8631 Perhaps we're overthinking this... TWO mirrors! That's the ticket!
@gammaechofoundationproductions6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best episodes of Star Trek! It was definitely ahead of it's time! :)
@izzgal74 жыл бұрын
Gene Roddenbury was a reader of The Urantia Book, which inspired so many of these stories on Star Trek. Always with a positive message that we are all a part of the ONE.
@robinlillian94714 жыл бұрын
So much understanding of the insanity of both sides, and so little has changed.
@buddyboy803 жыл бұрын
A story about slavery told 100 years after slavery was abolished in the states can hardly be considered ahead of its time. Part of the problem with American entertainment is how much patting ourselves on the back we do for doing the bare minimum. Still a good episode tho.
@yettiman28173 жыл бұрын
They all were and still are . This should be reqd warching in school .
@thebacons59433 жыл бұрын
The best ever dramatization of the fact that race is a social construct
@mstephens447 жыл бұрын
When Star Trek is at its best, they hold up a mirror to society and ask the question, “Is this what you want to be?” 50 plus years ago, it seemed as though we were on our way to the 23rd century. Now, I’m not sure.
@helmethead726 жыл бұрын
I'm quite sure we're on our way.....back to the Dark Ages.
@SaveTheFuture5 жыл бұрын
I think we're still on our way, we're just stumbling because of politics.
@astralhaze89365 жыл бұрын
The second part is just human nature- it's only natural to think the past is better, regardless of facts. We certainly are progressing
@DrCuriensapprentice5 жыл бұрын
Post-atomic horror except warp drive won’t make us civilised
@TheJeremyKentBGross4 жыл бұрын
In my observation the media and culture started pushing division after Occupy Wallstreet. Although they clearly have not liked the backlash that they got.
@timrhicks12348 жыл бұрын
One of THE BEST ST episodes ever. Pretty blunt and in your face racism that everyone can see and not be taken aback. Excellent story and acting and concept
@srb98 жыл бұрын
+timrhicks1234 True!
@oliveeisner89646 жыл бұрын
Agreed. People can be dense. And especially so when tangled up in pet ideologies.
@danbasta36776 жыл бұрын
Not to crazy over this episode. Matter of fact, it aired on Hero's and Icons tonight. The only highlight of this episode is Spock's explanation of his planet Vulcan and the conflict the planet went through in the many years past. Note, though, when Spock was eavesdropping on Loki you heard Checkov's voice in the lounge, however, you never seen him.
@paulreynolds8245 Жыл бұрын
Please don't forget the next gen episode of a single being planet,, single sex, then people find out about what their 'leaders' were doing. A very good Riker episode.
@darkflame7287 жыл бұрын
My uncle is an old Trekkie and was around when the show came out. When I ended up getting into the show this is the episode he was most excited about me watching, and I can see why. It was very interesting and I like that there was no "good" or "evil" character, just two people who let their hate for one another consume them until there was nothing left.
@jesuszamora69493 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The both of them had serious grievances, yes, but the real problem was that neither of them could see past their anger. How the hell are people supposed to come together if we can't stop basing our opinions of other groups based entirely off the worst specimens of same?
@jay-day2 жыл бұрын
@meow purr "diversity is is best preserved with homogeneity?!?" they are mutually exclusive!
@krel3358 Жыл бұрын
@@jesuszamora6949 I think a huge problem with ideas like these is that it ignores the possibility of people who are outright malicious like the (((tribe))) that got kicked out of 109 countries but claims everyone else is the problem. I believe they are fundamentally an evil people because they are not human beings they have high levels of neanderthal DNA to the point they arent even the people from the bible they claim to be. They are masters of identity theft and deception. You cant make peace with people who arent your people. Race matters. You cant make peace with a people who fundamentally psychopathic in their character. History can point to that lesson where the Maori people of New Zealand genocided the Mori Ori people. You cant make peace with enslavers, supremacists, liars who preach peace and tolerance because deception is an act of violence. Sometimes black and white thinking is good when your enemy is objectively evil. Thereby you can see how Star Trek is another aspect of propaganda or naive thinking. Even if you have a good or noble heart you cant project that belief or mindset onto other people because they will take advantage of you and think you are stupid for being trusting.
@Virjunior01 Жыл бұрын
Oh no. One was clearly good and heads down a dark path for the right reasons. The other was clearly evil, and performed halfway good deeds for the wrong reasons. The _real_ evil here is contempt, of course, but one brought that element to the other when it need not have. Guess which?
@jerkjerkington3874 Жыл бұрын
@@jay-day If you mix everyone together, then it becomes truly homogeneous. If you allow people to separate, then there can be diversity. The funny thing about the scene in this video is that the two guys could just peacefully separate and go do their own things, but instead they have some insane desire to be together and beat each other on the head until only one of them is left.
@andruism7 Жыл бұрын
I love how the camera angle sometimes shows that when they are facing each other we literally cannot see the other sides of their faces so they literally look identical.
@5roundsrapid263 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that, too.
@wardragonprime7 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favorite Star Trek episodes.
@philoshaughnessy9063 жыл бұрын
You're right. With, I think, overtones of The Twilight Zone.
@bradisbread_4 жыл бұрын
51 years later, and this is still as relevent in 2020 as it was in 1969.
@Khorzho3 жыл бұрын
Racism will always be used as a tool for power by those who stand to gain from it. On any side.
@Shanethefilmmaker3 жыл бұрын
Only we can't blow up the Earth to stop it.
@CharlesUrban3 жыл бұрын
@@Shanethefilmmaker The worry is that we'll blow up the Earth trying to perpetuate it.
@Shanethefilmmaker3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesUrban That's not quite what I mean. Granted that could happen one day. However Kirk threatened to blow up the ship in order to get them to stop. He wasn't bluffing and it paid off even for a short time. He was willing to put his life and the life of his crew on the line to put a stop to pointless racism. The only reason why we as a species keep doing it is because no one has the tech or the guts to use it on a global scale.
@CharlesUrban3 жыл бұрын
@@Shanethefilmmaker Ah. Would that gambit work on other humans, though? Some of us are insanely hateful enough to try to call that sort of bluff, or even to raise with explosions of their own. Also, while the loss of one starship to stop pointless prejudice would be both inspiring and tragic to the rest of the Federation, we're talking about blowing up the Earth. Where we are. Right now. And we're nowhere else. As flawed as our current methods of resolving long-standing injustices and hostility between groups of people (if we're even using them) might be, "Explode civilization and start over" wouldn't make for much of an improvement in that regard. We spent the whole Cold War trying to reconcile two different belief systems _without_ sending everyone back to hunter-gatherer status.
@Demonizer51347 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot just how amazing TOS was. I gotta re-watch some of these episodes.
@NeonPixels81 Жыл бұрын
What's even more sad about this episode is - there's no resolution. Lokai and Bele discover that their people wiped themselves out in a civil war, but instead of the realization that they're the last of their kind making them reconcile with one another - it just makes them hate each other even more. They teleport down to the planet and continue hating one another and trying to kill each other.
@DCM88285 жыл бұрын
My favourite episode. Frank Gorshin's acting is just superb.
@lakecountynaturalist76172 жыл бұрын
Even as a 6 year old girl I watched this episode and understood. Some of the most powerful television ever filmed.
@TheTdw2000 Жыл бұрын
Some of the most powerful propaganda more like.
@Mailed-Knight Жыл бұрын
@@TheTdw2000 What do you think it is propagating?
@TheTdw2000 Жыл бұрын
@@Mailed-Knight the silly idea that race is merely a difference of appearance and that there are no demonstrable differences in terms of IQ or behavior between races which stem from genetics.
@treemu Жыл бұрын
@@TheTdw2000 And how much of that difference can be fully separated from how certain races were treated by the society around them throughout history, something this scene also features?
@TheTdw2000 Жыл бұрын
@@treemu IQ is 80% genetic. Behaviors and personality traits are also heritable to a significant degree. Black people commit over 50% of all homicides despite being only about 13% of the population. Not even "socio-economic factors" can explain that kind of discrepancy (even putting aside that poverty doesn't cause crime but rather low IQ causes both poverty and crime).
@1987jock6 жыл бұрын
Why do people say season 3 is awful? Just because of Spock's brain? The dialogue and acting here is simply superb especially for Star Trek.
@ellsworthhall93556 жыл бұрын
I agree. I feel that the 3rd season had many outstanding episodes like "The Enterprise Incident" (based on The Pueblo Incident), "The Tholian Web," "The Empath," "Is There In Truth No Beauty," Requiem for Methusela," etc.
@danbasta36776 жыл бұрын
@@ellsworthhall9355 Agreed, liked most of the third season episodes except for five of them, which was And The Children Shall Lead, That Which Survives, IS There In Truth No Beauty, Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, (this episode which i didn't crack up over), and Turnabout Intruder. The rest were pretty decent.
@joehansell13315 жыл бұрын
Plato's Stepchildren, The Way to Eden, etc. I believe this episode, which is far too heavy handed in its symbolism, in my opinion, was actually a Season 2 entry..
@1987jock4 жыл бұрын
@@dennisthemenace3695 It really annoyed me that Vulcans can live extended periods without a brain but in ''Mirror, Mirror" Kirk smashes an ornament over Spocks head and Bones says "He'll die without immediate treatment". Just inconsistent.
@BTG514 Жыл бұрын
Spock's Brain is a good episode.
@craigalbrechtson53644 жыл бұрын
Of course the irony of the whole scene is that the very same hatred they display for each other had already resulted in the utter destruction of their civilization.
@DennisSullivan-om3oo Жыл бұрын
Alien: Do you know what it's like to experience prejudice, and bigotry? Chekov: We read about it in history. Roddenberry imagined a better time in the future.
@hanshotfirst11384 жыл бұрын
”Let That Be Your Last Battlefield” isn’t subtle and wasn’t meant to be, at a time when “Divided we fall” struck many as a viable social policy. When the Enterprise finally comes upon Cheron, a burned planet undone and destroyed by centuries of racial strife, Roddenberry offers a still timely, altogether chilling reminder of what happens when we miss a message that’s as clear as black and white. TV Guide
@BladeOfLight165 жыл бұрын
It's important to realize that neither of these men are good. One is full of disdain and superiority, and the other is filled with violence and resentment. Both of them are equally hateful. Just because one group is oppressed does not justify everything they might do. That's a lesson we need to remember in our modern time.
@julianmarco41853 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Most people would look at this and excuse Lokay's actions as being justified but he killed a lot of people for his ideals and that makes him just as bad. Being oppressed is one thing, using it as justification to excuse hatred and murder is completely different.
@eisleyrd3 жыл бұрын
Ah, reverse equivocation. A nuanced "Good people on both sides" declaration. Only problem is that one of those "bad" people is perpetrating (or at the very least ok with) the subjugation and marginalization of an entire people. If there's anything that is NEVER OK, that is it.
@BladeOfLight163 жыл бұрын
@@eisleyrd Your concluding statement is right, but that only supports my argument and demonstrates the flaw in your lead up. Identity politics is bad, regardless of which identities it promotes. Focus on behaviors, not identities.
@julianmarco41853 жыл бұрын
@@eisleyrd We don't know exactly how they are suppressing the others. Maybe in a sense of segregation then that is true. Like if Lokay's people aren't in any position if power in the government then I agree. But Lokay as we see it in the scene where he explains himself to the crew doesn't seek a peaceful way of progress, when Kirk offers him asylum at the end, he could have accepted and maybe started to fix things with Beele, instead he choose to keep fighting and hating now on the ruined remains of his people's planet with whatever is left. I am not going to deny that Beele appears as the worst because of his superiority complex to everyone else. At the same time I can't ignore that Lokay seems to demand only violent revolution and power wherever he goes. Instead of seeing the bigger picture, he seems to just see violent solutions. And I highly doubt that if their roles were reversed, Lokay would do much different.
@julianmarco41853 жыл бұрын
@@eisleyrd As an added bonus I like when the camera has them both in frame facing each other, you see them as the same color for a few frames, proof that they are the same people only they see themselves as opposites or mirror versions. Just like if you removed all light from a room and put every kind of colored person in the world in there, they would not be able to see any color.
@6364LEGACY3 жыл бұрын
This scene can be taken as an analogy sure, but it also stands on its own two feet in relationship the the story. It makes perfect sense that the characters would say and feel these things. It isn't forced down the audience's throat with prejudice. The message being we're all the same, and should strive for the better of all. Something this current society should learn from.
@ValensBellator2 жыл бұрын
Some criticize this one for being too blunt and on the nose with its symbolism and messaging, but it’s one of my favorites regardless. I feel we often put too much emphasis on “subtlety” when sometimes something would be best stated plainly.
@nathangamble125 Жыл бұрын
It has to be blunt to get through to the people who need to hear the message the most.
@micahbush5397 Жыл бұрын
The older I get, and the more I study history, the better I can appreciate this exchange and the portrayal of the characters. On one side is a man from the dominant caste who, behind his façade of culture and fine-sounding words, is little more than a bigot who has made an arbitrary feature a basis of oppression yet fancies himself a benefactor. On the other side is a man of the lower caste who, though legitimate in his grievances, has been consumed by hatred and turned to violence, making him no better than his enemy.
@josephmanno4514 Жыл бұрын
This is why Dukat's claim of benevolence and having sheltered the Bajorans from the worst impulses and excesses of his people so infuriated Kira.
@littleredpony6868 Жыл бұрын
@@josephmanno4514 with Dukat they were able to flesh his character out more since they had more than one episode to do it with
@johcafra7 ай бұрын
A stagey episode, but credit to all in it. Frank Gorshin manages to sing his lines through gritted teeth; every time I see him in action he looks ready to spring over the audience and into the back row. But give Lou Antonio high marks for very nearly matching Frank at every step. The whole show must have been a tightly coiled shoot.
@saebelorn Жыл бұрын
This video really brought the freaks into the comments section
@mattropolis7857 Жыл бұрын
I love how they show that unforgiveness eats both of these people alive and ultimately destroyed both of their efforts - just like real life.
@alexb.235311 жыл бұрын
…damn… still relevant after forty years…. At this rate, it doesn't appear that we will ever be asked to join the 'Federation.'
@vendingdudes8 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed how often I reference a quote or a scene or share some wisdom from an episode with my teenagers. Absolutely relevant, and with no CGI or twerking to get in the way of the message.
@thurin844 жыл бұрын
now if we could only teach people to be as tolerant of thought as we have taught them to be of skin color.
@SantomPh3 жыл бұрын
Can we join the Klingons instead?
@mjjones82163 жыл бұрын
Definitely in my top 5 Favourite STARTREK episodes . With one of the best lines ever FILTHY LITTLE PLOTTER OF RUIN 😂 The acting was superb 👍🏻
@florbfnarb70993 жыл бұрын
An excellent episode with an excellent message that's still applicable to this day. If it were new today though, it would receive a lot of anger and feedback, because it paints both Lokai and Bele as wrong. Too many today would demand that Lokai be portrayed as right and Bele as wrong, simply because Bele is the "oppressor" and Lokai the "oppressed." And of course Lokai's people are oppressed, but radicals today will claim that the oppressed have no moral obligations and are free to use any and all means they choose, making them right no matter what they do. In reality, both of them are consumed with hatred, and it cost the people of their world their civilization. Hatred is a poison - an adolescent indulgence under the best of circumstances, if clung to it taints the soul, ultimately rotting it.
@florbfnarb70992 жыл бұрын
@Dr retardo - What part of what I said do you need clarified? My point is pretty obvious.
@ronwright61192 жыл бұрын
Since the point was consisly laided out, what part don't you get?
@florbfnarb70992 жыл бұрын
@@ronwright6119 Where did I say I didn't get a point?
@florbfnarb70992 жыл бұрын
@NotaFascistSlaveX - They're both at fault because they both cling to hate.
@florbfnarb70992 жыл бұрын
@NotaFascistSlaveX - Typical radical; always looking to oversimplify.
@Valkires14 жыл бұрын
How ironic that this pops up now. This pretty much sums up today alt right and far left... even what they are saying hits so close to their talking points.
@avidfilmbuff78304 жыл бұрын
This episode ended up becoming far more relevant today than even during the civil rights era. How sad.
@guidadiehl91764 жыл бұрын
What rubbish.
@avidfilmbuff78304 жыл бұрын
Guida Diehl What’s rubbish?
@leftcoaster676 жыл бұрын
Frank Gorshin was so wonderfully over the top. Makes Shatner seem way more tame.
@whatno5090 Жыл бұрын
I want a half-moon cookie
@robertaylor9218 Жыл бұрын
I loved this about Star Trek. They show humanity beyond this, providing us with a vision of what we can achieve. Then they do things like this, to highlight the troubles of the time. They don’t ignore the problems, and they don’t succumb to the idea of those problems being permanent. I have heard that this is exactly what discovery was crap about.
@fornoreason88222 жыл бұрын
This episode is not usually on the Star Trek 'best' lists. People rarely feel comfortable or like to face the realities of oppression.
@virginiaconnor83502 жыл бұрын
I don't care what age, gender, race or religion you are, if you have a disability, you still have more discrimination coming your way than anyone I've ever met. My friend has Cerebral Palsy, has 3 college degrees, drives, is married, and has a 20 yr.old son, but has trouble even getting a decent job while high school kids w/o her education and experience get the jobs she should have gotten. I have 1 degree-I couldn't afford 3-and also had trouble getting hired. I'm on Disability now and retired due to Covid anyway. The invisible sign is still up there-"No Disabled Need Apply. Don't Even Try." We have no Disabled cards and no "free" lawyers to hear our cases while others get "free" everything because we're supposedly "privileged". We're not.
@DoYouKnowtheWaytoSanJose Жыл бұрын
@@virginiaconnor8350 My mother was handicapped and what you wrote is 100% fact. I lived it with her.
@nijimasu18 жыл бұрын
Really? Someone flagged this as being only appropriate for 18 and above viewers? Because 1970s TV is too controversial for kids of the 2010s? What are we turning into?
@andrewclark86388 жыл бұрын
1960s. Even worse.
@fiskefyren8 жыл бұрын
babies apparently
@WizelBalan8 жыл бұрын
A bunch of SJW's who just sit safe behind their computer screens and phones and find everything, no matter how small, offensive and complain and complain but never do anything constructive.
@Marvcohen9 жыл бұрын
The Riddler ?
@AnomalousOne14016 жыл бұрын
Marvcohen: Frank Gorshen was a really great actor in his time. Very versatile yet very underappreciated.
@Chemdawg20094 жыл бұрын
Yes! The best Riddler!
@rwboa223 жыл бұрын
@@AnomalousOne1401 the only "Batman" actor to be nominated for an Emmy for his role as The Riddler, and later played comedian George Burns in the one-man play, "Say Goodnight, Gracie", which received a Tony nomination for best play in 2003.
@MLK-KAEFENTERPRISES2 жыл бұрын
WOW...amazing how relevant this story is.
@4403210 жыл бұрын
Gorshin does a great Kirk Douglas.
@georgehenderson77833 жыл бұрын
Gorshin also did a great Joker.
@440323 жыл бұрын
@@georgehenderson7783 He did a great Riddler. Cesar Romero was the Joker.
@Jimmy-ci7zn3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we as humans haven’t learned a damn thing since this episode aired 50 years ago
@sandal_thong8631 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps 500+ years of racial superiority training and the Discovery doctrine take awhile to overcome. If we ever get a Marshall Plan for Latin America as well as a North American Union with the free movement of people like the European Union then we'll have made some progress. But just looking at how Africans fleeing Ukraine were treated in Poland and elsewhere says we've got a long way to go. I didn't realize Poles were anti-Black; I didn't think they (or Prussia) were a colonial power!
@thomasjames6680 Жыл бұрын
Let This Be Your Last Battlefield is still one of the strongest, and best Star Trek episodes filmed, if any of the series.
@BobBelson5 жыл бұрын
You filithy little plotter of ruin, " .you loathsome subverter of all thats decent..oh yiou are coming back'!!! " Gorshin plays this character like a champ.
@ericbrett3095 Жыл бұрын
All these two characters had was their hatred for each other. When they got to Cheron all that was left was a burned out hull of a planet with no one left alive.
@jhjhjhjhjhjhify3 жыл бұрын
This is so of its time and yet timeless... at the same time. Seriously though, it's such a great episode. Wish Sci Fi shows could take on politics nowadays with this much insight.
@MegaSteven0114 жыл бұрын
We must live together as brothers, or perish together as fools.
@philoshaughnessy9063 жыл бұрын
How would they ever stand looking at themselves in a mirror?
@sandal_thong8631 Жыл бұрын
LOL.
@zerobatsu Жыл бұрын
“Star Trek has never been Political”
@bluedotdinosaur Жыл бұрын
Take a look at the recent comments here, posted in the age of right wing radicalization. When faced with the literal embodiment of Star Trek as political and activist, they resolutely declare "it's... it's just different! This isn't woke!" This isn't about getting anything right, for these people. It's about having something to be right about. They do not believe in language, only grievance.
@MrChickennugget3607 ай бұрын
@@bluedotdinosaur age of right-wing radicalization? No more than Left Wing radicalization. If you can't see that you are blind. As far as woke this is not woke. Wokeness would assert that the victim is 100% right in holding onto his hate- its clear the point is that both sides are wrong in this conflict.
@coatlecue8 жыл бұрын
yeah yeah sure the allegory is obvious and somewhat upfront. the acting between the adversaries is subtle,exquisitely timed,done by actors who actually read the whole scripts. that they put that much chops in the parts may imply they knew what a Legacy they were a part of.
@ZacktheImpaler Жыл бұрын
2023 and still scary relevant
@alanwhit54296 жыл бұрын
Lou Antonio is a very underrated actor ... love him as Koko in Cool Hand Luke; and a director of some note
@solomontesfaye57922 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of East Africans being prejudice toward west Africans, the color the same but the phenotype is different. People just find reasons to be prejudiced toward each other. It could be color, phenotype, religion, or nationality
@5roundsrapid263 Жыл бұрын
It’s like the Japanese subjugating the Chinese and Koreans in WWII, also.
@sincerejones11211 жыл бұрын
that's not the point. Stereotypes is the point. Obviously you do not choose your race; but you shouldn't be judged based off others in your races actions, i.e. not all blacks have 5 kids with 5 women and commit crimes, just like not all conservatives or republicans are rich white racists.
@dechha1981 Жыл бұрын
One of the things I like about the Cheron is that, to THEM, the differences between the 2 races of the same species is obvious and one is clearly superior in every way to the other. To humans, it might honestly take us a moment to remember which race is which.
@Torgo1001 Жыл бұрын
"Your Oreo manufacturing technology is no match for that of Cheron's!"
@raebaer85802 жыл бұрын
people watching Star Trek in 2022: when did Star Trek get so political? Star Trek in 1969:
@ralphpal Жыл бұрын
Yes all the planets they destroyed for being socialist
@eq13739 ай бұрын
This wasn't pushing one ideology over another and was very basic.
@Eazy-ERyder Жыл бұрын
So far ahead of its time
@firehorse_44alpha-omega Жыл бұрын
We can learn from the original series.... More relevant then ever.....
@maltedmilk68882 жыл бұрын
We humans will always be a next-generation learning all of the things necessary to be good humans. It never ends
@creativeguy113810 күн бұрын
Brilliant writing. Brilliant!
@thebacons59433 жыл бұрын
The best ever dramatization of the fact that race is a social construct
@potaterjim Жыл бұрын
I love how despite the clear allegory, they're so similar to each other that it can be hard to remember what the detail is, a clear nod to the foolishness of racism: "You consider these people a different race, when we can barely tell you apart"
@adamtimmons81743 жыл бұрын
My favorite episode
@madlion1988redeemer3 жыл бұрын
And after the oppressor didn't get his way immediately, the oppressor mentally took control of the ship to force his will over the entire ship. Star Trek was the truth and most people missed the lessons.
@vashydana9 жыл бұрын
How is there a content warning on STAR TREK?!
@thcollegestudent9 жыл бұрын
+vashydana Well, that is funny indeed, considering.
@BuzzKirill3D8 жыл бұрын
because MUH TRIGGERS
@oliveeisner89646 жыл бұрын
Lord. How infantalized people have become. Demanding to be babied.
@salbill44847 ай бұрын
As we watch some of the most powerful nations of Earth commit genocide in a "war" this episode springs to mind. There's always some reason the power make up for their horrific actions and then they tell you that you are the wrong one, merely for voicing the truth.
@masamune2984 Жыл бұрын
Whenever the camera pulls back to show the same color of their faces (even on different sides of their faces) makes this argument/scene that much better and stronger.
@joshuawells8357 жыл бұрын
This episode serves as the reminder that the original series was aired in the 1960s and the allegory of how hatred only destroys. As a history buff, I hear Lokai and see the history of Blacks in our own timeline and when I hear Bele, I am ashamed.
@darkflame7287 жыл бұрын
Why feel ashamed? Everyone's country has some sort of fucked up history.
@oliveeisner89646 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Buck up sad one! Great strides were made in WINNING out over our racist past. We won the big war! Minor skirmishes will always pop up here & there but dont make the mistake of believing the racially charged groupthink being espoused by the msm & some schools. they're wrong.
@karlhelm8757 ай бұрын
i'm white and a sometimes feel like lokai.
@400KrispyKremes11 жыл бұрын
This is definitely in my top three Trek episodes. Right behind "Trouble with Tribbles", and the one where Kirk and Spock fight.
@vendingdudes8 жыл бұрын
That's funny because Trouble with Tribbles is easily one of my least favorite episodes.
@danbasta36776 жыл бұрын
@@vendingdudes Yeah, agree with you. Everybody cracked up over that episode. It was OK, however not one the very best.
@danbasta36776 жыл бұрын
There were two times the Captain and the First Officer fought, This Side Of Paradise and Amok Time.
@vocalist926 жыл бұрын
People who are calling Lokai the superior race clearly miss the point entirely
@SantomPh3 жыл бұрын
Even Lokai does not claim superiority over Bele's race, he only says Bele considered them inferior and pretty much subjected them to apartheid aka Southern voting laws.
@TheLAGopher Жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh Lokai was also drawing an allegory to the Vietnam War draft which some claimed unfairly targeted Blacks for front line infantry assignments. Lokai talked about his people being dragged from their hovels and sent off to fight wars for the oppressor.
@taurnguard7 ай бұрын
The first time I saw this, the goofy thought in my head was when they start fighting each other facing each other, their black sides will be on the camera side and they'll both go into their Al Jolson impressions. :)
@johnhunter2294 Жыл бұрын
The original "Star Trek" was criticized, then and now, for being too preachy and heavy-handed in its treatment of social issues, and this episode was held up as a prime example. That being said, it is brilliantly acted and does drive home the point (maybe with a ten-pound sledge, but still) that racism and hatred are ultimately destructive.
@feonjun Жыл бұрын
A lot of people missed the part about them playing cat and mouse for 50,000 years.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl Жыл бұрын
That's probably in Earth years. Don't forget time is virtually non existent in space. If you had a set of twins and one of them goes off into space. Let's say the space faring twin is traveling for about 8 light years: 4 years to one destination and the other 4 back to Earth. To that twin he'll of only aged about 8 years. But the twin left on Earth will be long dead and at least a few centuries will of passed.
@matthewcrichton75295 жыл бұрын
The riddler is back
@jimsilvey5432 Жыл бұрын
In spite of the differences that these 2 gentlemen harbor, they appear to shop for clothes at the same store.
@mr.mediocregamer9653 Жыл бұрын
Well, one shops, the other just walks in with 20 of his bros and puts stuff in a sack and then runs out.
@Bazookatone17 ай бұрын
I'd love if Strange New Worlds did a re visit to this episode, imagine who you might get to play Lokai and Bele? I'd have MArc Alaimo play Bele, and Andrew Robinson play Lokai, or even vice versa!
@ElvisbackpackАй бұрын
"StAr TrEk WaS nEvEr PoLiTiCaL!" says someone who either missed or ignored this and every other episode.
@lennoxshepherd39055 күн бұрын
They seem perfect for each other
@mikestevenson23033 жыл бұрын
The Nielsen ratings were no good in 60's. Look at all the classic shows that went off the air and we're cancelled like this one because of supposed bad ratings.
@sandal_thong8631 Жыл бұрын
There was something claiming that the actual ratings of Star Trek were better for the key demographics the advertisers wanted. I only heard that in passing, but it may be worth looking up for those interested.
@doxielain2231 Жыл бұрын
Show this to anyone who complains that contemporary Star Trek is "too woke".
@eq13739 ай бұрын
Huge difference
@vinay73973 жыл бұрын
this is an example Enoch Powell's dark vision of "rivers of blood".
@steveoc646 ай бұрын
As the owner of a pair of Border Collies - I can confirm that this video is 100% accurate
@roccobierman49853 жыл бұрын
To the people watching this episode as a "lesson", you are a fool. The episode is meant to be commentary, not a study for an exam. The conversation these characters are having were had in our own history thousands of years ago and will continue to be had thousands of years from now. Because the truth is we ARE different. And our differences invite conflict. Pretending we are all the same is silly. The best we can hope for is cooperation despite our differences. Not fantasy utopia by ignoring our differences.
@singalongwrudy8690 Жыл бұрын
Everything is black and white with these guys...
@CzolgoszWorkinMan Жыл бұрын
I feel like this Frank Gorshin performance heavily informed Mark Alaimo's performance as Dukat
@victorpike8918 Жыл бұрын
I feel that this episode is a perfect example why hate is WRONG, how FAR hate can go and WHY we need to STOP HATE NOW. We are ALL HUMAN. No matter our skin color, ethnicity, race, preference and religion. WE ARE ALL HUMAN.
@twofiveb3 жыл бұрын
Far too young to remember 1969 but it would seem that there were probably more balanced & intelligent discussions about racism than there are today.
@LordGreystoke10 жыл бұрын
Where there is a commitment to hatred there will never be peace. The Israelis and Palestinians should be reminded of this.
@acenosce33346 жыл бұрын
They will be equal only in death
@greghuysmans23715 жыл бұрын
Ace Nosce k
@scattysafari77427 жыл бұрын
People are now complaining the reboot is TOO DIVERSE. People are complaining that STAR TREK is too diverse. Did they not watch the show?Trek has championed equality and tolerence forever.
@DartLuke5 жыл бұрын
ScattySafari old ST was diverse in a good way. Discovery in a bad way
@BladeOfLight165 жыл бұрын
It's not that it's too diverse. It's that diversity has become more important than the quality of a person's character. When promoting a particular race or sex or lifestyle becomes more import than muddling through the imperfections each of us must struggle with, then the story has become worthless. _That_ is the situation with _Discovery_ and many other contemporary series that are criticized for their handling of "diversity" issues.
@TheFlyingHeart7 ай бұрын
2:05-2:16 Frank Gorshin doing his Kirk Douglas impression.
@dreadfulspiller8766 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if they interbred what their kid would look like.
@philosopher1a2 жыл бұрын
This is what dispassionate objectivity looks like each side is not very happy with Kirk
@logiciansvlog58004 жыл бұрын
The relevancy this has now is scary
@cordingdesert9566 Жыл бұрын
Oh God, I didn't even realize they were different.
@noahpartic7586 Жыл бұрын
In the end, All Charon is dead. That could be Earth too...but that's a train we'll never see until it's 2ft of Us.
@Pahoe77 Жыл бұрын
Leaps and bounds above singing klingons. How a once great franchise has fallen. 😒☹️😕
@kane50009 жыл бұрын
this really seems to ring true when recalling the events of Ferguson, it's really sad in 2014 the vicious cycle still continues
@cabbievonbump9 жыл бұрын
kane henault Sadly, I must agree. Maybe both sides should be locked into a room and be forced to watch this episode. Together.
@waverlyparkerjr93966 жыл бұрын
The division in the United States today proves we have learned nothing as exemplified by this episode. We are a sad and stupid nation.
@waronwickedwhiteswaronwick985 жыл бұрын
Waverly Parker Jr Seperation or Death we hate living amongst you hate talking to you hate being around you but we are forced to ..
@davidthegreat29875 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this story would play out in Star Trek the next generation!
@Foe4Life2 жыл бұрын
In this episode, I see more parallels between the Israeli and Palestinian conflict than with U.S. black/white racism.
@sandal_thong8631 Жыл бұрын
Normally I'd agree with you. But there's such a vocal hateful minority afraid of being "replaced" that it still holds true in America. As I write this, TV commentary is discussing anti-Semitists and White Supremacists being invited to the former president's resort.
@michaelmormile76696 ай бұрын
nobody does a ‘slow burn’ like Frank Gorshin
@Da_Publick Жыл бұрын
This purely fictional situation seems like something that I heard about in real life. But I can't quite put my finger on it......🤔
@marcusweathers58674 жыл бұрын
This reads like today's headlines in 2020 what a trip