Star Trek Discovery - Season 5 Episode 4 - Breakdown & Review!

I go through the fourth episode for Star Trek Discovery Season 5 Episode 4 entitled "Face the Strange" give my breakdown and review with some interesting time travel escapades!
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[@Keither754]

Honestly, this has been one of my most favorite episodes of Discovery in quite a long time. Very impressed.

[@heyitsjefe]

I agree and I love our new 1st officer

[@thomasbarca9297]

Mine too

[@RenePeraza]

Oh, yeah! Got more vintage Linus, too!

[@hawkstringfellow]

I want to know what you like about this show?? Why you like this show??? Because I have tried to like this show and I just hate it I need a perspective on this show

[@Keither754]

@@hawkstringfellow honestly that’s fair! I understand why a lot of people don’t like Discovery at all. I enjoy Discovery because I enjoy most things related to Star Trek. I also find a lot of the supporting characters (like Saru, Stammets, and even Book now) pretty interesting. I even enjoy making fun of some of the bad things (like oh Michael Burnham is gonna save the Galaxy…again) but I also like celebrating the high points (like the introduction of Pike as Captain in season 2 or most of the stuff involving “Zora” in Seasons 3 and 4)

[@bjorn00000]

Not to mention that the "time bug" was a product of the Krenim, the antagonist from Voyager's "Year of Hell".

[@LaraA55]

yup👍

[@adaptability4586]

Overall, a really fun episode and loved the Ariam cameo. For a sec, I thought the Calypso short trek timeline would be explained.

[@jamesyoung211]

I feel like maybe it was explained when Zora said that she thought she was having another dream - meaning Calypso could be said to be one of these dreams

[@lcflngn]

Ohhh, nicely figured. That may be all we get!

[@susansokoloski2233]

I thought this clearly explained the Calypso Short Trek. It was the direct result of an alternate timeline if the Discovery crew don't successfully complete this mission to find the Progenitor's technology first. What more is there to know?

[@nedisings]

The bridge crew finally got some lines!

[@Welcome2TheInternet]

the Enterprise in JJ's Star Trek was also constructed on the ground.

[@gablecostello]

Didn't make sense then either

[@LaraA55]

@@gablecostello i agree

[@razzledazzle4589]

This was the type of episode discovery has needed. Singular story in its town right, which was fun and didn’t take its self too seriously. Loved seeing the return of Airiam as well

[@thomashong2938]

Shame we didn’t get Nilsson as well.

[@pangaeawriter8766]

Reminded strongly of the season 7 Voyager episode, "Shattered". These were both great episodes. It was awesome to see Airiam again.

[@itzdcx]

I'm very impressed, this gotta be one of their best episode😮 honestly the acting was superb it felt so natural and the special effects were done really well by the end of the episode I didn't feel annoyed or left scratching my head everything just flowed. I'm happy there wasn't that stupid cliche cliff hanger that they always do

[@salnollola3020]

Linus small time in this episode was Comedy Gold!

[@LaraA55]

He is quickly becoming one of my favourite characters

[@MrFearDubh]

The reason they used the personal transporters to go from the bridge to the ready room is so when they tried to do the reverse they alone were immune to the affects of time jumping (in that they remembered each time jump). It was a plot device. And having Stamets' tardigrade DNA giving him the same ability was also a plot device borrowed from the Harry Mudd episode ('Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad') so they could work as a team.

[@thomashong2938]

I would guess that Burnham and Rayner didn’t use their personal transporters in the Que Sera Sera timeline where the Breen used Progenitor tech to wipe out the Federation.

[@MrFearDubh]

The reason that the Discovery crew are going to follow Moll and L'ak is because presumably during the 6 hours the Discovery crew lost, Moll and L'ak found the next clue and are heading where it leads. Moll and L'ak knew to go where Discovery was because the time bug broadcasted their location as explained earlier when an unauthorized transmission was detected by the crew.

[@KingValisFelix]

'Follow Moloch' you say? These producers barely hide their allegiances these days.

[@unstaz-capsule]

This was my favourite, episode, watched it 3 times back to back BUT that wig !!!! Michael's wig !!!! Wow !!! Naah they did her dirty 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sana at the end it, was chilling there at the back....especially after the fight with self !!!

[@MOEMAN338]

I love this episode also. In fact, I would say this is my favorite episode of ST: Discovery. I especially love the scene where Burnum fights Burnum .

[@telmisartan3838]

Loved this Episode - SO Good!

[@starbrand3726]

This episode was sort of a copy of the Harry Mudd episode from an early season when he took over the ship using repeating time and only Stamits could help.

[@Keither754]

I was thinking the same thing! “Magic to make the sanest man go mad” or something like that

[@starbrand3726]

@@Keither754 Yes! That's it. Even down to telling Michael a personal thing about herself, they copied. This new episode was hardly original nor was it even good. I just felt bored the whole time. Every ten seconds someone came up with a quick and convenient fix. "Oh, I can build a device to catch the bug, oh no it's protected by a shield, okay, so we just have to go really fast and pop the warp bubble." Come on!

[@Keither754]

@@starbrand3726 okay those are definitely fair points 😅 like he said it’s probably a better episode if you don’t overthink it. I still quite enjoyed it, even though it’s not the most original!

[@starbrand3726]

@@Keither754 But, the whole point about Star Trek is to over think. Star Trek was always about getting the audience to think beyond, to stretch their imaginations, not to just passively ride a copycat episode they already rode before. This modern Star Trek, Picard, Discovery, and Strange New Worlds are all just flash and fire with no substance. Sorry to sh!t on it but there are lots of turds already in this litter box.

[@trevorwhite915]

You must remember Discovery was an early built starship back in the day when they were built at the docks at Sam Francisco. The dedication park in the TOS Enterprise states it was built there and as mentioned by others it was shown in JJ’s Star Trek. As for the episode I would rate it as very good but with the occasional writing hiccups we are used to in Discovery.

[@leonwoodley99]

This episode was excellent. Loved the technical babble

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

In all honesty, I thought either Lorca or Ash Tyler would make a cameo. But I am so happy that it was Airiam, up until now I'm still imagining what kind of upgrades she'll received in the 32nd century if she's alive. The only thing I'm disappointed at, is that season in once again is another galaxy wide ending scenario.

[@jjmfrees]

Weapons dealer is an Annari from Voyager.

[@DavidBrendan7799]

The new first officer is a breath of fresh air!

[@RenePeraza]

Love this new character! As a SAG actor myself, I would have loved a shot at this character! The actor is a bout my age, too!

[@thomashong2938]

@@RenePeraza What was it like being in two Robin Williams movies? What Dreams May Come is one of my favourite movies, all time.

[@RenePeraza]

@@thomashong2938 Robin was fun and playful on set even when he needed to be serious! Here's an example: on 'What Dreams May Come' we were preparing to shoot the child double funeral scene and were all told not to bother or talk to Robin or he'd lose focus and go on a comedic run. I was an extra and had just been scolded because I wore a beard that day, and that I would not be on camera. As punishment, I was sent to the last pew of the church, well out of camera sight. As my luck would have it, that's where Robin was quietly getting made up and groomed for the scene. I would look over to my left, he'd eye me to his right - BUT I COULDN'T TALK TO HIM! So, I did some pantomime and wiggled my scalp as if it was a toupee! Boy, he lost it and said "Oh, buddy, I can see the Velcro from here!" And was off and running! When they came around to ask who had spoken to him, he gestured 'mum's the word' and didn't sell me out.

[@LaraA55]

I completely agree

[@stevengalloway8052]

Terrific episode! Burnham vs. Burnham! 🫸👊🫷😆

[@yougoboy27]

All of the positive feedback on this episode is refreshing. Well deserved! Real Star Trek episode here. The Time Bug was a macguffin. How could such a small device generate enough power (sustained) to create multiple time distortions? Also agree with the plausibility of bare knuckles knocking out helmeted bad guys. No issue with Earthbound ship building. Also agree with the drowning out of all of the techno-babble.

[@stevengalloway8052]

And the Temperal Prime Directive wasn't broken because it was mentioned that the past selves wouldn't remember any events... 😏

[@Patriot200011]

100% correct Sir

[@darkguardian1314]

Sounds like a Voyager episode with different parts of the ship in different time pockets only flipped.

[@coecludd]

I thought I recognised the alien at the start of this episode as the member of a race we saw in the Star Trek: Voyager episode "The Void" I checked and yes, he's the same race. Not sure if his race was addressed in the episode, but the character was General Valen.

[@syreetafrazerfrazer7580]

Last weeks title jinaal is the carribean word for trickster

[@davideddy5877]

Good to see Booker take off his shirt again!

[@RenePeraza]

I agree about drydock v San Francisco! Ever since the Kelvin timeline showed us NCC-1701 being built on land while Kirk watched, it's never made physical sense. However, since I actually enjoyed this episode, I'm willing to believe it's just the upper bridge section module being worked on but at Starfleet?! Not even a shipyard! Hmmm. Of well, it may also be a wallpaper the tech guy was running for ambiance.

[@juanblopez8612]

according to the trekmovie recap/ review, he is annari. last seen on voyager.

[@stevengalloway8052]

Stamits might not have been able to hit the Time Bug because it probably had the shield like we see later, so it probably wouldn't have made a difference... 😏

[@Sci-Finatics]

Probably right but you’d still make at attempt to squish it! 😜

[@suemiller5625]

Anthony Rapp as Stamets rates high on the scale as one of the best "Trek-no-babble" deliverer of lines in all Trekdom.

[@chuck__van]

Hard to disagree.

[@DaveB4529]

They do deduce that the temporal spider thingy was introduced by Moll/L'ak while the crew was on Trill...

[@shawnsasser4001]

Straight loved it!

[@aforty1]

I would honestly be terrified if I worked at a place where my boss could just "appear" in my workspace at any given moment.

[@thebeardedone1225]

If you think back in the eoisode where the young captain Kirk, (Hemsworth) deciding to join star fleet drives his motorcycle to the shipyards then gives his keys to one of the workers. That constitution class starship was being constructed on planet, I thought Utah for some reason. So there's been a couple star trek movies depicting ships being built on the Planet. The refitting and repair, normally happens in space dock.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

It was Chris Pine and Iowa which doesn’t make any sense

[@thebeardedone1225]

@@alejandronopasanada5302 thanks

[@jamessherman7797]

Nice to Arium (sp?) and Bryce back in their brief appearances. I appreciate your analysis of the show!

[@MichaelJohnson-pu3xo]

Because of the spore drive the Discovery would have beeen top secret while being built so it would make sense for Starfleet to keep its construction as close to home-San Fracisco-as possible.

[@martinheywood588]

for some reason the release date on Paramount plus in the UK has been put back a week to 25 April for this episode

[@DavidBrendan7799]

It's so annoying when they are like 'we only have thirteen minutes', and an eternity passes!

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

“WE ONLY HAVE 13 MINUTES! Let’s use 8 to talk about our feelings” (After we lose, the past 2 episodes) “Let’s just sit here for a while and emote like we have the week between episodes and things aren’t life and death” That stuff at the end this week was just so much filler and the show being in love with itself.

[@JohnnyJamesGio]

Is it just me or the sound before time jumps was very similar to the black mirror intro sound effect right befor the screen cracks?

[@markrudd2536]

Great episode. It's going to so disappointing if we get to the end of the final season for it to be cancelled on the previous three if the remaining episodes continue to deliver.

[@LaraA55]

@Sci-Finatics Great breakdown Nick and I agreed with everything you stated. There were scenes and moments which made me scratch my head and didn't make sense to me. It was an okay episode. The standout for me is Rayner, whose dialogue and acting is very much in point. He is an interesting character.

[@AliceJoy78]

Great video and as for the arms dealer, he looks, at least in part, similar to a Jem'Hadar from DS9.

[@staticchicken]

Tosk?

[@Blimbus-Blombo]

He has the exact same neck ridges as a cardassian, so I’m assuming a hybrid. Maybe part of whatever tosk was, part cardassian, and part something else.

[@Trekfanwanda]

I couldn’t keep up with the techno babble but it was a fast moving entertaining bottle episode 🖖🏽

[@Bastion90]

This has been one of my favourite Discovery episodes, but I did have one nitpick that bothers me. Stamets is aware of the time jumps because of his tardigrade DNA, but the last time jump they make is back to a time before Stamets has any tardigrade DNA. That should mean he wouldn't be aware of what's going on in the final jump.

[@juusoveikkowestside]

Usually dont like time ones this mutch.

[@e4unow421]

L'ak is a Breen...

[@jchinuk]

A minor plot hole, but surely 'Capt. Burnham' would have remembered fighting 'young Burnham' in her youth? It's exactly the sort of thing that should be recorded in either ship's or her personal log? Also, it would mean Burnham should remember Rayner when she first met him a few episodes ago, pulling a phaser on someone should ensure the memory remains. Finally, I thought transporters filtered out nasty things, so how come the 'time bug' escaped detection?

[@CharlesCorp]

One excellent episode, finally something i really enjoyed re: STD. If you listen very carefully when they are spewing tons of technical babble they do get into the whole concept of how they fly faster then the speed of light and sit inside the 'warp bubble' so time problems do not occur. Think essentially the two twin brothers problem where one stays on earth and the other flies away on a rocket at the speed of light (forget the science impossible stuff we are theorizing here) they explain rather quickly but do explain the warp bubble and how time is handled and breaking the bubble pushes the times etc.. really essentially they start explaining 'best they can' E=mc2 and the output for how time is controlled with faster then light travel -- i thought ok that is cool never really discussed in star-trek before to this level -- about the warp bubble etc.. this whole episode was very enjoyable -- make more like this and STD would be a good show -- they can act - I thought they all did great acting seeing the two Burnans was really nice -- and she acted really well -- i have to admit this i enjoy myself watching this STD episode which is rare since season 1.

[@chickenpastel11]

You saw what the spider can do and you still wanted stamets to smack it?

[@Sci-Finatics]

Yeah but that would imply he knew exactly what it was and what it could do from the first moment he laid eyes on it. Maybe not squish it but you'd try and capture it.

[@chickenpastel11]

@@Sci-Finatics To be fair I would try and smack it as soon as I see it. Just not with my bare hands.

[@sandyzalecki1145]

again, this season is okay, but nothing to brag about. I liked seeing Ariam again.

[@ch.k.3377]

looks like a Jem'Hadar Cardassian XXX(green race) mix to me

[@BobSperber]

Discovery has been usually underrated particularly by old fans. Decrying “wokeness.” But I think this will be a much loved series for decades to come. EVERY ST show had stumbles and Disco had its share - the cause of the burn (ugh), more “soap opera” than I like - there were some great new ideas put forth, as well as good writing, and fantastic acting.

[@Blimbus-Blombo]

As much as I hate to admit it, I have to recognize how much Michael’s character has green. She’s actually kind of grown on me now that she’s more of a 3-dimensional character as opposed to who she was in earlier seasons. I think the stand off between her and her past self really showed that well.

[@RHC2024]

AS much loved as the bubonic plague. Don't kid yourself on this trainwreck.

[@chriswood1210]

This show is written by people who know nothing about Star Trek. This show will go the way of the dinosaurs, extinct and forgotten.

[@phillytvdirector]

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU 100%

[@thomashong2938]

@@chriswood1210 What will be extinct and forgotten will be the toxic fandom that drags down Trek. No more Shut Up Wesleys. No more whining about Archer and Janeway and Kurtzman and prequels and canon and the Kelvin movies.

[@juniorbacon]

looks like the matter dude from the ice planet western

[@andrewchilcott5312]

@Sci-Finatics Remember that we saw the Enterprise being built on Earth in the JJ-verse Star Trek film, but I can forgive you for trying to erase that monstrosity from your memory :)

[@izbr661]

Section 31 guest stars from all recent shows and movies to your a near bow on the alternative time line

[@schwabpm]

I have to ask:: What interstellar race is Raynor? He certainly is not Vulcan (the ears are all wrong). Maybe he is a Romulan hybrid with another race; but which one? Please help me out!

[@Sci-Finatics]

He's a Kellerun seen in the DS9 episode "Armageddon Game"

[@schwabpm]

@@Sci-Finatics Thank you! The Kelleruns are a race that I had totally forgotten about. My Bad!

[@bjorn00000]

That dude looks almost like Tosk from DS9 season 1. The nose is different though.

[@itzdcx]

my only issue with this episode was strange techno babble😂it felt a little like nonsense I was wondering how do they even have a Timeloop clock I just had to go with it turn of your brain

[@tonyfabulous6775]

If Lorca or Phillips would have made a cameo appearance would have been epic. But they didn’t ask me for advice.

[@dadank4520]

What is the ship in the middle bottom of his shirt?

[@richardajoy79]

Cerritos

[@ChrisG404]

I was surprised the uniform difference wasn't mentioned/noticed more in the episode. It's so completely obvious that S5 disco uniforms are different than S1/S2 uniforms.

[@Sci-Finatics]

Yes no-one ever said "what are you wearing" apart from Linus who said red suits you.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

It was fine. There were so many of those pauses that take me out. Im not sure if they are just poorly written but this is the first time in life I’ve been annoyed by “pace”. There’s 2 episodes to include this one where they take a loss…. Then just sit there. I’m going to go do the math on this emoting and see how much time they would have saved on this time sensitive mission. It was fine. I maintain: I almost shocked myself binging DS9, a show that I can remember “my”/their premier and never missed one 32 years ago, while my main task was wiring a fixture in my man cave. I was distracted by something so good on TV that my mind skipped over “now cut the power it’s supposed to be dark”, caught myself, dumb scary thing. That will never happen with STD, I was hanging the curtains on episode 5x2 and I had to rewind when I was done. I mean that could be a good thing but…

[@shauncraigparkinson8165]

"this is just silly" sums it up perfectly.

[@MOEMAN338]

Some people just have a problem with a Black Vulcan woman in charge. Do you have a problem with Spock’s father, he is really an unlikable person.😢

[@WayneJones-l5q]

not that it is well written but, it did not break the temporal prime, they just talked about in the scene before time was not set on that jump until the next jump

[@jorgekde]

This was a good episode of Star Trek. Some annoying STD traits, as usual, but it was fine. Best episode in a long time.

[@adaptability4586]

Haters gon hate.

[@kmix7928]

This episode shows why we need at least two more seasons

[@jceggbert5]

Discovery was an experimental variation of the Crossfield with, essentially, a hydroponics bay (spore chamber). Maybe it makes sense it was being built on Earth?

[@jonathant8309]

I enjoyed the episode but the story line seemed recycled from a episode (Shattered) in Voyager season 7 .

[@Welcome2TheInternet]

"it's a time bug". LOL, OK writers. smh

[@JAGGEDJUNKIE103]

One of the better eps of discovery but its still got stupid stuff in it, the beaming to another room was so bad.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

How does the transporter know where you want to go?

[@thomashong2938]

@@alejandronopasanada5302 You double tap the combadge to activate the personal transporter and you then use your mind to direct where to beam to.

[@racman7661]

I heard then reference the kremlin - right?

[@thomashong2938]

Wrong. The Krenim Imperium. VOY, season 4, episodes 8 & 9. Year of Hell.

[@Tinrs80]

Burnham knew about the changlings post Kirk era?

[@Sci-Finatics]

Like I said. Look too closely and you start to see plotholes. Maybe she was referring to the race known as Chameloid seen talking to Kirk in the Ura Penthe prison in Star Trek 6?

[@thomashong2938]

Starfleet might have encountered shapeshifters far earlier than depicted onscreen.

[@itzdcx]

WHY WALK WHEN YOU CAN TELEPORT🙄😅

[@Sci-Finatics]

Anyone seen the movie WALL-E with all the super obese people in the future? Thats why.

[@nigelstockley7011]

I know I sound a bit silly... but ill always watch the first few seconds of your review BEFORE watching the episode myself... just waiting to hear words like 'this was a good episode' etc.. But now you have your little montage before the video begins proper its kindof spoilery before the video gets going so Ill be sensible going forward and not start watching the review video before watching the episode!

[@Sci-Finatics]

Sorry about that. I’m finding in my anylitics that the first 20 seconds of my videos have a bit of a drop off like I’m not doing enough at the start to hook the viewer in so thought adding the rapid teaser grabs might help.

[@iamnutty8471]

it was trash! a time travel bug? the search for plot! next week the time shite activated by flush

[@qwertiepie]

I like how they threw in a male version of early burnhum for us to reflect on why we are willing to accept him and not michael 😊

[@MOEMAN338]

Very nice observation!

[@Sci-Finatics]

Male version?

[@billkerns9258]

Huge age diference. Plus Burnham's offenses were honestly more serious.

[@qwertiepie]

@@Sci-Finatics sorry for the late reply. Can't keep the channel owner hanging. And this is just my observation - He is single-minded (stubborn), has has own way of seeing things, always knows the right way to handle the situation/knows better than everyone based on his own experience and not willing to listen to others. In short is character is a lot like early Burnham (and the other famous Captain that starts with a K), but it doesn't irritate us that much because... (fill in why it's acceptable from your perspective. Your meaning the general you here)

[@thomashong2938]

@@Sci-Finatics Rayner.

[@Lukeddd]

My concern: is discovery not a secret project? We have a lot of plane spotters and i suppose ob space ships it would be much more audience if on earth. So the people will be wondering what is the purpose in space and what is the flight plan… so it should be build somewhere in the desert in area51 blocked by views. Especially because its unique design

[@thomashong2938]

Starships come in all shapes and sizes. You wouldn’t hide a ship like Discovery. You would want it to blend in with all the other ships under construction. Hiding it would draw attention to it.

[@aforty1]

Finally a good episode for this season.

[@Zerzayar]

I always catch spiders with a glass. But there are no dangerous spiders where I live.

[@leonwoodley99]

Why on earth would he kill what he would assume to be just a normal bug. As far as he knows it’s just a bug.

[@danielshottopics8187]

They Could of Done so Much More for this Episode, They Could of Had Burnham Rayner and Staments go Through Time not Only in Discovery's Timeline but Throughout Star Trek History. For Example if I Was Writing this Episode Burnham Rayner and Staments would of Time Jumped to DS9 During the Events of Star Trek DS9 Season 4 Episode 1 Way of the Warrior when the Klingons were Invading DS9, The Next Time jump could of been During the Events of Balance of Terror and Burnham Rayner and Staments would of Found Themselves on Kirk's Ship During the Romulan Battle and we could Hear Shatner's Kirk on the Coms System.

[@petertaylor4758]

This was a classic filler episode

[@winslowjoy2629]

I have to disagree, just killing a life form goes against the tenants of Starfleet.

[@Teslabotjames]

I’m trying to give is a chance this season. But she’s such an unlikable captain. I don’t know if I’m the minority or not.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

Nah, she’s pretty bad. Not a likable character and not an earned position.

[@thomashong2938]

@@alejandronopasanada5302 Not an earned position? She was the first officer of the Shenzhou. Until the “mutiny”, she had a spotless Starfleet record and was likely going to be promoted to captain of her own starship, upon Captain Georgiou’s recommendation. Had Philippa survived, she would have told her bridge crew to forget what they saw Burnham do, which she would have excused as an emotional breakdown. Burnham deserves to be captain far more than Worf does. He has a knack for wrecking starships that he’s put in command of. “It was not my fault!!” Suuuure, it wasn’t.🙄

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

@@thomashong2938 If you don’t get outta here with your head cannon…. This show and era of Trek is so bad that you could take these comment sections a create a fanfic novel series with all the head cannon fans have to write and it still wouldn’t make sense. NO! Stop it! You deserve better. And don’t you dare sully the name of Worf. He’s a one trick pony but, he’s also a 1 dong pony.

[@richardajoy79]

Everyone have become so lazy in the 32nd-century, its funny that there's no obesity. The Krenim Chronophage (time-eater) is an unusual device, it's not eating time, so it's possible the name sounded cool so they used it. The helmet punching was nuts, but the real let down of this episode is Discovery itself, this could've been a great way to link to Calypso (not just the music) and actually arrive aboard that Discovery.

[@richardvinsen2385]

No obesity? Have you seen Tilly? In this episode it bled over into making past Tilly obese, too.

[@jean-claudelol563]

This was a wasted episode. It felt like a filler episode. Like they didn't have a story to tell and were out of time and just came up with some fluff for a filler episode. A shame to waste a full episode this way in what is their last season. It's not like they produce very many episodes per season either. Basically, the episode was dedicated to forced bonding between Rayner and Michael.

[@TravisColinColeman]

Nick, like you. Another time travel episode? Say it is not show!?! *pun* Nick, nice guy. Discover a horrible show.

[@chriswood1210]

This episode didn't disappoint. Berman once again made it clear that everything on her starship was to be done her way. The only nice thing about this episode was the new commader Rayner. Shutting up the crew before they went on and on. Even gay engineer was blabbering about something, using big words that would probably confuse real engineers and people at NASA. At the end was pretty much the same. Crew members, taking time away from their duties of who knows what they do and sit on the bridge having committee meetings. Because i guess that's what these woke gen z writers think naval and military crew should do, instead of maning their stations and being alert. I guess we should be thankful we didn't get another episode of Tilly telling her superior officer what she thinks because thats what they do for real on a naval ship . But because its Berman star ship, the crew get away with little things that would actually get them tossed in the brig and a court martial. Then again, Berman should have been in prison since the first season since she started the war between the Federation and Klingons.

[@thomashong2938]

It’s Burnham not Berman. She didn’t start the Klingon War. She won it. It’s a Starfleet crew, not a naval or military crew. The Discovery bridge crew is always alert and has every station fully manned unlike, say, Pike’s Enterprise.

[@jamiehorne1173]

Also, you're talking to a ship filled with Nerds. And they probably has the highest IQ than you do or do you haven't even watched Star Trek so you don't even know how the ships actually run or the fact that you forget about the science side of it the fact that the show is all science. Michael is a xeno anthropologist she also was the science officer before she got promoted to Captain. So every one of them are very smart individuals

[@icarusandtherabbit]

It was fine,, but I’ve never rewatched any Disco ever and it’s been so long I don’t remember who any of these old characters (other than black and blue face) or references to moments to old seasons they were making. And yes no more 10,000 steps a day with transporter communicators thingos. Also such a generic bridge crew I couldn’t work out if the ones at the back and side were the same as the ones we have know or if people came back. Worst bridge crew ever!

[@JohnWayne119]

This show is so poorly acted and so poorly written lol, try watching this with none fan in the room, it’s cringe - the lack of budget is screaming at me

[@TravisColinColeman]

Discover a horrible show.

[@1aikane]

Discovery is stupid 🙄

[@jamiehorne1173]

So why are you watching it you have nothing better to do than to make this entire comment section A bunch of complaints because you don't have any power to change anything because the world does not revolve around you and nobody cares what you think cuz you're this entitled person who thinks everybody should listen to your opinion cuz your opinion really truly matters so stop acting like an adult person and stop commenting on anything that has to do with Discovery because nobody actually cares even the true fans love this show and we don't have to care what you think but we are getting kind of sick of hearing you guys complain and wondering why are you even watching the show why are you wasting so much time watching the show that you despise so go find something you actually like oh wait you can't cuz you have something to complain about because this is so is fiction not based on reality if you want reality watch documentaries but again you'll find something to complain about because that's the type of person you are

[@peter-xw1mu]

STD sucks so bad haha. Unlikeable characters, even with my brain on zero i couldnt handle the plotholes, cheesy teenage dialogue, etc..

[@boombasett6038]

Tried continue watching Discovery after season 2....but the characters are just not likable. Well...at least we still have Strange New Worlds, and BUMMER that lower Decks has been cancelled.

[@jdizzforyou]

This is why this show has failed... we're already watching a starship crew, at least stay within your universe's rulebook or explain how you didn’t LIKE EVERY OTHER modern successful Trek. I wanted to love Disco, but no, just no.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

if this is the future, ya they can keep it to them selfs. its like being forced to watch a drag show. constant cringe overload, they only good characters are book and the new first officer, the rest is a clown cast.

[@thomashong2938]

If it’s constant cringe overload, then why are you watching?

[@KingValisFelix]

Not cannon. Not even StarTrek.

[@jjherrera617]

This was a poorly written episode that was clearly inspired by the Voyager episode "Shattered." Parts of this were definitely entertaining but sadly very derivative and thin. See the "original" would be my suggestion

[@shauncraigparkinson8165]

The issue is it's a bad episode flashing back to other bad episodes we wanna forget. 'Shattered' was awesome.

[@mazzmo77]

still a crap show