Star Trek: Saber Class Escort Cruiser - Spacedock

Spacedock returns to Star Trek to take a look at the sleek Saber Class Escort Cruiser.
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[@MikMoen]

I absolutely LOVE these dedicated warships that take a leave from the typical saucer designs.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

yeah i never liked the saucers on federation ships espealy that fat one on the Galaxy and Nebula classes.

[@AximandTheCursed]

Starfleet: Here's our new pocket escort, we took a Miranda, streamlined it, removed the explodium and added some armour! Far less red-shirty!

[@kathrynjaneway5346]

It is unfortunate on STO the Sabre class is not very good

[@joek8259]

Remember first seeing it in First Contact.

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@kathrynjaneway5346 Why's that? I think the Saber class looks COOL!

[@smallmoe]

@@jamieolberding7731 it's a tier 1-2 ship so unless the devs make a tier 5-6 version it's stuck as a starter level ship.

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@smallmoe Oh. That's unfortunate.

[@brydon5721]

One of my all time favourite designs. I really wish they'd made DS9's second ship a Sabre-Class.

[@curtisbrummitt5470]

Yeah, I don't like that after the Defiant was destroyed, they just replaced it with another totally identical one, even changing the new ship's name to Defiant.

[@jimtilley1158]

My all time favorite design. I have dived deep in almost every info source on this class of ship. From RPGs, fan made tech manuals, blueprints, deck plans. She is a beast. Great video.

[@TrueRomancer04]

I need a series based around a Saber class. Or better yet, an actual battle group with Saber and Steamrunner class ships.

[@TheOrderOfDanos]

Had this idea myself and hopefully one day I can pull it off >.

[@daverage4729]

Gorgeous looking ship. Looks like a manta ray...very predatory. I really like how they changed from the general saucer shaped vessels and branched out a bit with the federation ship designs.

[@antwan1357]

I remember reading starfleet core of engineers novels for years and was so disappointed that the ship was not a engineering vessel , but it made sense when I looked back upon the novels and realized that the ship was more like a ambulance service in a way because it was the genius engineers that made the stories work.

[@sumoking3002]

We need a video on starfleet tactics at some point, it seems that Star Trek just lines up fleets and rams them together until one is left

[@RonJohn63]

As if the writers, directors and producers emphasizes what *looks* cool instead of what's tactically competent.

[@sumoking3002]

@@RonJohn63 I think maybe they emphasis what is affordable? But you have a situation where every engagement is like "Attack pattern gamma 4!" And the pilot is like "it's just us, you can just say fly straight at them firing our gun, not everything has to sound like dan dare Simon"

[@nathanholmes9983]

steamrunner class please!

[@0r14n583lt]

Nerdery on the next level. Love it!

[@erwinsims]

Hey, I noticed a small mistake.. you mention 6 decks but then casually mention the main deflector imbedded in decks 8-9.. With a height if nearly 70 meters, nine decks would be more logical. I love your vids, keep them up!

[@Spacedock]

What are you guys favorite Federation Warships? Mine is probably going to have to be the Sovereign Class. :D

[@kazmark_gl8652]

I have to agree with you there, that design looks fantastic.

[@AlexGellel]

Agreed, Sovereign class reigns supreme

[@phantom117b4]

i'll take the galaxy-class manly for it's versitility as a warship and as an exploritory vessel

[@kazmark_gl8652]

+Joseph Parzynski I always thought the neck of the Galaxy was just a bit too slim.

[@baltar2006]

The Miranda class. Always dying in style.

[@bugs7253]

I would love to see a video of the Akira, Steamrunner, Sabre, Norway, Defiant, and Sovereign classes working together.

[@Doan84]

I really like the design of the Saber Class. My second favorite design right after the Akira Class.

[@kyle857]

Naod08 Comparing this to the Akira is like comparing Skittles to a fine steak. The Akira is pure art. The Saber? meh.

[@betterlifeexe4378]

Saber class always made the most sense to me. The dominion war should have been 20-50 sabers for each galaxy and excelsior class. From what we see depicted it was more like 2-5.

[@vmolin2162]

Cute little ship! Ties with the Akira for being the most aesthetically pleasing.

[@TonksMoriarty]

Defiant-class was also a ship specifically built to fight the Borg.

[@ReelMeurik]

And (pardon my language), got it's ass handed to it on it's first encounter :P

[@SSJCLIFF]

Did it? It was in the battle from the beginning and was one of the last ships standing. It survived for a long time - as long as it took the Enterprise to get from the Romulan Neutral Zone to Earth. It also wasn't destroyed - heavily damaged but it survived, which is really impressive considering the ship was so small. Considering the firepower and survivability packed into a tiny ship - there should have been an entire fleet of these things. 95% of the ships being built during the dominion war should have been Defiant classes - the war would have gone a lot better.

[@lorzon]

It's important to note that the Defiant class was designed to operate in wolf pack squadrons of a dozen or more ships and we never actually see her in that capacity.

[@TonksMoriarty]

lorzon That's a very interesting comparison, even from its design the Defiant looks more like a submarine than the grander ships of the Federation.

[@dtester]

exactly, You can make 2 to 4 Defiant class ships compared to a larger ship. Each one has the fire power of a Galaxy class as well a large amount of fortitude. Less crew and fast impulse level speed and maneuverability.... it would be much better to send 60 of these than say 25 larger ships.

[@nicholaspowell7029]

Over 600 ft with a crew of 40! I served on a ship 178ft long with a crew of 30 lol.

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

I applaud your use of the Bridge Commander music. Such memories.

[@rfd7245]

Hi Spacedock. Awesome video. Can you guys do a video on the Utopia Planitia shipyards? It feels there’s little info on it out there and this video had the most detailed footage I’ve seen on the Utopia Planitia shipyards (around 1:45).

[@allnamesaretakenful]

I'm really glad this video exists. I didn't really know what they were when I was re-watching the Dominion War videos.

[@AnhTrieu90]

Please do a comparison of the Saber class and Defiant class!

[@casbot71]

And one underrated stat, *construction time and resources.* _How many Sabers did it take to build a Defiant,_ they are both compact and have a small crew requirement. But really unless it's more than three Sabers per Defiant, it's worth it to make the Defiant if just pure combat performance and damage dealing is the only requirement. And if the "cost" are comparable, then just pump out Defiants.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

@@casbot71 i think defiants are smaller.

[@koshi6505]

@@casbot71 Even if the material cost isn't that much different, the Saber class might require less engineering expertise. The Defiant was a failure of a mass produced ship because it required so much maintenance.

[@jonneexplorer]

Thank you so much for mentioning the SCE, one of the best trek book series in existence!

[@jtno2]

I really like the design of the Saber-class starship. Spartan with little space/resources wasted on unnecessary luxuries.

[@pangesunagwi7683]

My 2nd favorite class of ship. I have loved the saber class ship ever since reading about the Star Trek Corps of Engineers💪

[@davidkelly4210]

For the love of all that is good and right on the internet, will people check the channel before making requests? I swear 60% of requests seem to be for stuff that was already covered.

[@donbrunodelamancha1927]

@Spacedock I first discovered your channel because of a recommendation from ElkhartLadder. I am eternally grateful to him for this recommendation!! Ot to be too on the nose, but every episode you put is of consistent, STELLAR quality. Which, while keep yourself squarely in the specifics of space warfare, must become, over time, harder and harder to find unique starships and craft. I commend for staying true to yourself and flight pattern you have committed to on your channel. I salute you Captain, my Captain(though I’m a 5 Star Admiral...🤣🤣🤣) Keep morning keeping on!

[@mad7206]

Very nice looking ship . I seen an HD version and it looks even better

[@thomashill6347]

Thanks for the look at one of the ships I know little about, I do use them in Armada II but quickly move up to the Akira class.

[@khartog01]

The idea of dedicated combat vessels in StarFleet is a great feeling. It took a terrible threat to build them, which is a very human response.

[@jonathanjames8050]

Got to love the Defiant! Video needed! Great channel!

[@os-walker]

The integrated warp necelles are a nice touch.

[@bozhijak]

Excellent as always. Thank you!!

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

It would be nice if we could see a spacedock video on other animes besides Cowboy Bebop like Robotech or Mobile Suit Gundam or maybe even on the history of the space shuttle or the Jupiter 2 from Lost in Space either the t.v. show or the movie or maybe even on the ships encountered by Voyager like the Kazon or the Malon or the Vidiians or the Hirogen for example or even the ships of the races encountered by the Enterprise or seen on DS9 or Star Trek:Enterprise.

[@Urbanfisho]

The Sabre:SHARP!!!

[@leondillon8723]

1:08) It was said that the main deflector was on decks 8 & 9. The list of features listed SIX decks. It's more like a destroyer escort(DDE). 2:57) On at least 3 episodes of ST: TNG, Captain Picard stated that the USS Enterprise -D was the first of its type.That makes it an USS ENTERPRISE -D CLASS.

[@TheNubadak]

I duno if you've done it but the Galaxy class would be great to see on space dock! Great work dude!

[@shadowrealm8014]

beautiful ship indeed

[@nickokona6849]

I love the look of the Sabre

[@Yateball]

One of my favourite "non-main" ships... 1701-E is definitely my fav warship followed closely by these

[@KhemistryIBMOR]

Good video. You spoke with conviction.

[@treky121212]

The Defiant class was also designed to battle the Borg as well.

[@NATIK001]

Yeah, but the Defiant was the precursor to the group of designs which were designed together to form anti-Borg fleets. Sovereign, Akira, Norway, Steamrunner and Saber together form a full suite of starships for any specific need, and are all decked out to be anti-Borg capable. The suite isn't designed with the idea that the Defiant need to cover any roles in it. However the Defiant is an excellent alternative to the Saber and will slot right into that role if needed. It makes sense that Starfleet wouldn't want to just carry forward the Defiant, it was a good design but it is repeatedly stated to have issues and require skilled engineers and helmsmen to fly and keep running. It is not a design you want to roll out across the entire fleet and make potentially hundreds of. The saber was designed to be more reliable and easy to handle. The reliability of the Saber comes at a slight hit to overall power, but that doesn't matter if you can guarantee 2-3 working Sabers per potential Defiant on a battle line.

[@stardude2006]

Tough little ship .... " Little ?? " 💚👽

[@marsm9]

Would love to see a vid covering the D'Deridex and/or Dominion Dread. Always wondered about the Negh'var also.

[@LordBloodraven]

I appreciate that the Saber-class's phaser arrays were able to cover a wider arc than the Defiant-class. Saber-class could commit a drive by- I'm sorry, a strafing run better than the Defiant. Also, the rear-mounted photon torpedo launcher gave it an advantage over the larger Akira-class, which only had forward mounted launchers. The Saber-class could tax a pursuing vessel with a spread of torpedoes.

[@conchubar1]

I'd love to see one about the larger dominion ships or the sovereign class as we saw it in First Contact but don't know too much about it. Love the videos, keep it up!

[@El-Toro-Nica]

By far, my favorite warship that the federation had in its fleet. I liked the design better then the defiant class

[@OGLordSlypher]

I don't know if anyone noticed but at timestamp 1:51 you see the Enterprise D in Dry Dock.

[@drthompson65]

Really like this ship.

[@kennethleung7170]

How about Vengeance-class Dreadnought from Abramverse(??) ??? P.S.: I still like the story and the ship from the old Star Trek time line!!!

[@jimtilley1158]

Best designed ship in the fleet. I love this ship.

[@McKronenberg]

You should do a video about the Miranda class starship

[@McKronenberg]

Or you could make a video about the Hammer class starship

[@roguelead72]

The Miranda-class the Red Shirts of Starfleet vessels.

[@lorzon]

Only because they built like 10,000 of them and there are literally too many to retire all at once. Even at 80 years old the Miranda class, with modernized systems and weapons, is a perfectly serviceable patrol ship.

[@johnlavery3433]

Didn't starfleet use them as cannon fodder in the dominion war?

[@Kingofgibraltar]

The Miranda class is a pile of shit and should be forgotten about.

[@casbot71]

One unanswered question, can it land on a planets surface? That would aid in versatility, and just in keeping them on standby (image raiding a Federation outpost or colony and a bunch of Defiants come out of bunkers). If it can land then it opens up some options. And what is the resource cost of construction compared to a Defiant? How many of one ship type do you get for the other from a shipyard.

[@thomas.parnell7365]

So if it a backwater colony world say the dura's sisters and 3 birds if prey come to take control of colony with say 4000 people on base.launching 4 sabres from cloaked bases the ageing bird of preys might as well wish for a glorious death

[@blackasp001]

Not sure if you're be able do this one, but the ship is like to see covered is the Kearsarge Class New Light Cruiser from the game Star Fleet Battles.

[@nbrindlow]

Akira class please!

[@poseidon5003]

i can see why this beat out the Defiant.

[@AlternicityBlogspot]

Great! Lets have a series that highlights it.

[@monolith5703]

Maybe you could do Star Trek's Galaxy-X class, aka the Galaxy Dreadnought. Probably my favorite Star Trek ship

[@SinbadNaiver]

damn i'd LOVE for him to speak of the Hestia class and the prometheus class.

[@amazingmao]

The saber, steamrunner and norway class ships look like they can combine into 1 whole capital ship.

[@OlNeb-k2b]

Excellent video. The only issue I have with STO, if anyone cares lmao, y’all don’t got enough to worry about now some stranger in the town square is like, “everyone, excuse me everyone, listen to me” lmao, apologies readers lol I just noticed this though, lol. I wish they did weapon systems in STO like they are in canon. So the Saber has four type 10 phaser strips and two torpedo bays, 6 weapon systems but in STO the Saber has 4 weapon slots. I know with some of the larger ships, Scimitar immediately comes too mind, it would be difficult but the Saber, the Defiant in STO has 6 slots but in canon isn’t she super overpowered? I don’t know, I love this game, took me forever to get into it but I love it, I just wish they did the weapons a lil different.

[@darkhippie1]

Love the battlezone 2 music!

[@leaaronsanchez]

I would like to see a video about the Luna class. Commander Riker was made captain of the USS Titan a Luna class was never seen on the movie, I had a Google to ship to see what it looks like. As a new multi-purpose class Federation vessel it had similarities with the defiant, the sovereign, and nebula class

[@bfldworker]

Can you do a video on The Orville (ECV-197), USS Discovery (Crossfield Class NCC-1031) and the USS Shenzhou (Walker Class NCC-1227)?????

[@RurouniKalain]

Damn, learned something new about the Saber... a lot actually! What I knew of it was from Star Trek Armada 2 that game was sorely lacking it seems!

[@MrArgus11111]

They start you in this little thing in Starfleet Command 3. I actually really like the teeny boi.

[@tarync6539]

Badass lookin little ship me thinks

[@MIMALECKIPL]

Cruiser... good one... it's a frigate

[@powerhouse04330]

My Favorite Starship, hands down

[@robbieditto9849]

The statistics shown in the video say it only has six decks but you referenced in the narration that the deflector dish was across decked 8 and 9

[@cellulanus]

I thought this ship, along with some of the other ones that first appeared in the movie, were meant to be ships that were always there just never seen before. Hence a lot of them used the same windows and hull textures as the older Galaxy class.

[@sixwingproductions]

anyone else notice the imilarties of the akira, saber, and steamrunner class ships and the 3 known classes in enterprise and yes i know the enterprise is a modified akira design since the studio almost just made it an akira class ship.

[@orlandogonzales5619]

Wing commander series fighters would be a great addition to the list

[@victorselve8349]

The saber is one of the best star trek ships design whise

[@keatonkitsune4064]

Sooo.... Like a corvette? Tiny warship that shouldn't be underestimated.

[@Fjsouth]

fav class nova scout class. fav power house galaxy x class

[@chrisbritt4266]

Originally the steamrunner was a heavy frigate but the online video game change that over that's why everyone saying that and some even say that the Heavy Cruiser was a heavy escort basically that online game change things from the Canon to something else

[@sage_thunderleaf487]

Star Trek Prometheus Class Starship. That one is a great ship.

[@GrandLordGeek]

Bridge Commander

[@carlbroughton1199]

Enjoyed. Can you do the submarine SEAVIEW?? I KNOW: Not a spaceship; nevertheless unique.

[@Neil_Douglas]

Cool channel! Prometheus class from ST VOY

[@joshuaplotkin8826]

Prometheus. though she only fought in two battles, against the romulans and the borg, she was still awesome

[@Theobromiine]

Love the trek stuff!

[@troymcdaniel4038]

I love the Prometheus class warship, please show it

[@JoshuaSchwiemLRX707]

NOVA REFIT!!! And don't forget to mention the waverider shuttle underneath the stardrive

[@jetfowl]

Why are there more escape pods on the ship than total crew complement? There are about 70 shown in the pictures, but only 40 crew?

[@Parabueto]

Well, on modern ships you have to have a higher capacity in lifeboats than the parent ship is rated for and in space where parts of the ship could decompress and be inaccessible the extra escape pods just mean it's more likely anyone still aboard can get to one in a seconds rather than minutes in an emergency. More importantly, I like those escape pods studded across the hull so it looks really cool, which is probably more important than functionality in Star Trek :p

[@HitodamaKyrie]

Aye. Redundancy and accessibility are important reasons. Not to mention, the crew compliment is _standard_. It's possible to have more than 40 people on board. What if it rescues another ships crew but winds up needing to be abandoned itself?

[@jimtilley1158]

If the ship was at evacuation limit and had to abandon the ship with all the extra people.

[@IIISentorIII]

I always trolled my Opponents with the Saber in Star Trek Armada II and Fleet Ops ;)

[@martonoravecz5857]

A problem: the ship has 6 decks and deflector is on deck eight... Something is not correct there,

[@djzman]

I caught that too. LOL

[@thejapparfilms]

the sabre class was also described as being undersized and overpowered like the defiant class

[@DocWolph]

The Sabre is a bit less of a case of being "all weapons mags and engines" as the Defiant, but are largely the same type blast boats. That is not a bad thing for a ship meant to go fight. Ships like that exist so you can go be peaceful (Lazy) on your big majestic cruisers.

[@mastermasonjoewillis3904]

I'd be interested in seeing a video of Star Trek technology incorporated into BSG.

[@dinodog6068]

This may be my favorite federation design. It doesn't look as fragile and vulnerable as other federation ships.

[@jamesbray46]

I don’t recall seeing the Saber class in any of the Dominion War battles, nor in any of the clips shown here while discussing them

[@OllamhDrab]

I honestly always thought they should have used them to help the Klingons against the Breen weapon... Their energy dissipator's scary but they still have to hit you, first, and those flingey-field-looking things don't appear to actually move all that fast. :)

[@pancakespaceprogram4059]

It’s the new Defiant class.

[@tombaker8481]

It'd be awesome if this ship could land...little base of operations on a planet or the ultimate in camping!

[@mastermonarch]

Nova class is my favorite ship would love a video on it

[@weatherman667]

Way to actually make me like the Saber-class.

[@SwiftOnSports]

Deflector Arrays on Federation Starships are not meant to protect said ships from "angle of attack" as you state in this video; the Deflector Arrays are actually for navigational purposes. They move particles and other objects out of the way of the ships while they're moving at FTL speeds. The defensive shielding of Starships that do actually protect from attack are generally all encompassing for all ships.

[@HitodamaKyrie]

Uh. I think he meant the deflector _itself_ is protected from most angles of attack. As in it's hard to shoot the deflector.

[@SwiftOnSports]

Fair enough, though targeting a ship's main deflector wouldn't necessarily be a great idea. In terms of combat worth, the main deflector is pretty far down the list of priority. Also, the main deflector again isn't the source of defensive shielding in Starfleet ships. It'd be protected *behind* those shields anyway, so it being safe from most angles of attack doesn't really matter all that much.

[@knghtbrd]

Stuff like this is infinitely more interesting than the TNG gimmick of a flying hotel it can separate and leave stranded at impulse speeds while the rest of the ship goes back to do the fighting which will happen half a dozen times over the lifetime of the ship. A small ship that doesn't have many amenities for the crew but is purpose-built with reasonable limitations? Yes please. "This ship doesn't have a lot to offer, but it's fast and it's scrappy as hell in a fight!" "But doesn't the Federation go out of its way to avoid a fight when it can?" "Absolutely! But just because we'd rather avoid a fight doesn't mean we don't know how to win one." (Or at least didn't figure it out real quick after getting their asses handed to them a few times in the 24th century…)

[@Taiko206]

For some reason some contentcreators here on KZbin still seem to think that this ship is about 365 meters in length, possibly because that's what it says in Memory Alpha or the DS9 Technical Manual. but what they fail to see is at least Memory Alpha has put on a warning that the dimensions used are actually those of the Norway class. I mean, come onn ! A crew of 40 people for a ship that's supposed to be longer and wider than a Constitution class ? Give me break ! ven one of the designers said the went for a length of around a 190 meters for the footage..

[@jimtilley1158]

You are correct, however the 40 man crew was for the ship as launched. as it was modified and refitted with more scientific labs to add to the ships flexibility. I think the crew should be boosted to 60

[@jeffumbach]

If not for those Bussard collectors you wouldn't know which end was the bow, especially with those shuttlebays in front.