Star Wars, and the problem with Rey

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The Critical Drinker

The Critical Drinker

6 жыл бұрын

This is one that I just had to get off my chest. Rey's character is becoming a major problem in the new Star Wars trilogy, and in this video I'm going to explain exactly why.

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@Kariakas
@Kariakas 5 жыл бұрын
Luke couldn't teach Rey anything since that would be the ultimate sin of mansplaining
@IR240474
@IR240474 5 жыл бұрын
you know it!
@toatakanuva4846
@toatakanuva4846 5 жыл бұрын
True that, she could accuse him of sexual assault and he would need another planet to hide on
@aaronbarlow4376
@aaronbarlow4376 4 жыл бұрын
@@toatakanuva4846 That sea cow never complained, neither should Rey.
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
That's right! Strong, independent women don't need no man to teach them anything! They were already born with everything they need! All they have to do is believe hard enough and they'll be able to do anything! (Obvious Sarcasm)
@suckmyass7368
@suckmyass7368 4 жыл бұрын
Luke isn't supposed to teach Rey anything. That's not what the story is about.
@Ulfwizard
@Ulfwizard 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Rey is the embodiment of privilege...power without earning it..
@skywarp727
@skywarp727 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation
@richardbelicak8186
@richardbelicak8186 4 жыл бұрын
Finely engineered way to make people aware of their privilege and start hating it
@LordCaedus-bl7wi
@LordCaedus-bl7wi 4 жыл бұрын
Well daisy Ridley is privileged also
@kyotheman69
@kyotheman69 4 жыл бұрын
@Spectre N7 Batwahaman is villain though
@AidanRampair
@AidanRampair 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I agree, and I do think that Rey is ruining Star Wars, she didn’t really do enough Training and was not strong enough to to logically destroy Palpetine, a feat accomplished by a team of Luke and Darth Vader, (the chosen one) she did basically spend most of her life on Jakku parent-less and that must’ve thought her something
@ricvaladez2563
@ricvaladez2563 2 жыл бұрын
Critical Drinker: Treat a woman like a normal person. Disney: That’s sexist.
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 8 ай бұрын
What is sexist is the everything given to white men. And if you can't take advantage of these unearned gifts, it means that you are a loser who wants to blame white women and people of color.
@makojuicedaniel9307
@makojuicedaniel9307 2 ай бұрын
Disney:That's not pedo enough.
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Rey "develop" is like buying an already-built LEGO model.
@tarron3237
@tarron3237 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment! 👍🏻
@jacobdavis3876
@jacobdavis3876 3 жыл бұрын
This is a PERFECT analogy! So accurate it hurts.
@milanmanforlife
@milanmanforlife 2 жыл бұрын
Strong and wise in the force, you are
@D4C_Gaming
@D4C_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate
@jmal
@jmal Жыл бұрын
Or pre-built IKEA furniture.
@CmrSchmidlap
@CmrSchmidlap 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even consider this trilogy canon. This is kathleen kennedy's star wars fanfic, it's just very high budget and plays in theaters
@Marc-th9xw
@Marc-th9xw 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I watched it the other day and thought I wonder if they could just scrap and do it all again. Like fans would say yeah do it....
@harrisonmccartney4878
@harrisonmccartney4878 4 жыл бұрын
It's not canon. It's crap.
@ASmartNameForMe
@ASmartNameForMe 4 жыл бұрын
@Mitch or just re write the character in a fitting, but also satisfying way...... Yeah they're fucked
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 4 жыл бұрын
only star wars media that exists now are the six films of the prequels and originals, the clone wars tv show, comics, star wars rebels tv show, rogue one, and the new Mandalorian and obi wan show. The sequels are the only ones that don't fit and are some fanfiction cooked up by a feminist
@mck7646
@mck7646 4 жыл бұрын
The whole Disney series is amateur hour. Such a joke.
@stonetic2515
@stonetic2515 4 жыл бұрын
Old series Jedi: Luke Pilot: Han Mechanic: Chewbacca Princess: Leia New series Jedi: Rey Pilot: Rey! Mechanic: REY! Princess: REY! ALL HAIL REY!
@diabolicdaddygaming8462
@diabolicdaddygaming8462 4 жыл бұрын
Kylo is the princess... look at him stamp his little foot when things don't go his way!!!
@Eddiedoherty22
@Eddiedoherty22 4 жыл бұрын
All hail Mary Sue..
@panoply13
@panoply13 4 жыл бұрын
Stonetic Awesome analysis.
@Xero_Kaiser
@Xero_Kaiser 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Rey is the Jedi. Rey inherits Anakin’s lightsaber. Rey inherits the Millennium Falcon. Rey inherits the Jedi Order. Rey bonds with Han. Rey bonds with Leia. Rey pulls Luke out of his depression. If Kylo Ren rejects the dark side, it’ll be because of Rey. All over the course of like...a week. At best. Probably not even that.
@stunningandbrave7475
@stunningandbrave7475 4 жыл бұрын
Also... “Rey” is Spanish for King
@calebdouglas6861
@calebdouglas6861 3 жыл бұрын
Remember how Anakin, who was said to become the most powerful being ever, trained as a jedi for years but got his shit rocked by Count Dooku in his first real fight? Then that point carried over to the next movie where Anakin trained to become good enough to defeat him? And he wanted to kill him because he took his arm? It's called character development
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 3 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker didn't need any of that. Hi Five!
@cheeseisjar3058
@cheeseisjar3058 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin didn’t kill Dooku because he took his hand. It was because palpatine said dew it
@CmrSchmidlap
@CmrSchmidlap 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheeseisjar3058 he later got a job writing slogans for Pepsi. His most well known hit was Dew the Dew.
@basic_avarage_person
@basic_avarage_person 2 жыл бұрын
@@draftmagicagain1000 exactly rey dont have characters development,6 day of almost no training and boom the strongest jedi in that era
@Blood_Thirsty_AJ
@Blood_Thirsty_AJ 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, in my opinion (what I think), Palpatine wanted Dooku to be killed by Anakin, because he cut his arm, like this, Anakin would have developed his rage, his thirst of power, and his desire for revenge, easier for Palpatine to play with his mind by saying things that would convince the young Jedi, and turn him to the dark side, he knew that having Anakin in his side will make him win the ULTIMATE POWER. And for Anakin, killing Dooku wasn’t what he wanted, because he wished to be a great and respected Jedi Master, and kills is not part of the Jedi way, like he said. But I really think the pression of Palpatine about killing his nemesis was so tough and influenced that he finished off the Sith. I’m clearly not saying that it’s exactly this, it’s just a theory I had in mind.
@laughmouth
@laughmouth 3 жыл бұрын
Me to prequels after watching sequels: "Perhaps I treated you too harshly."
@apreviousseagle836
@apreviousseagle836 2 жыл бұрын
@Phelan Prequels were terrible due to Lucas incompetence. Disney sequels were purposely constructed attacks to destroy the mythos.
@apreviousseagle836
@apreviousseagle836 2 жыл бұрын
@Phelan Well, at least The Last Jedi was. It was Roundhead Johnson's deconstruction (badly done) of the SW mythos. Who's actually good in the SW universe? Who's actually bad? Apparently both teams buy their weapons from the ultra rich anyway. Who's a hero and who's a villain? Apparently neither, and both. Who was Luke? A good guy or a bad guy? Apparently he was somewhere in the shades of gray. There are smaller problems in the other movies as well. TFA basically had a female protagonist that could not possibly have an arc, because it would be insulting that she would actually been a novice as something, but.....gasp.....have to be taught something by a male? Perish the thought!! And Finn? Hmm, well the idea was to have diversity, so let's have a black guy be the 2nd lead? Oh wait he's basically comic relief, and all he can do is shout Reyyyyy because he fell for the first chick he ever met. That's kind of insulting. If I were a black person I'd be annoyed this is how the movie treats that character. Hell I'm annoyed now. He had so much potential to be great, as did Rey, but no no no!! we need a comic relief to play off Ms. Perfect.
@apreviousseagle836
@apreviousseagle836 2 жыл бұрын
@Phelan 100% I am reading into it. This is why we have intuition in the first place. It's a useful instinct that sometimes is wrong. Can I prove it? unless I could find a specific place where KK or RJ say that their goal is to destroy what SW was about, then I can't provide what you want. No one may ever know. But we can use intuition with a bit of logic and compare the zeitgeist and the source of it, and put 2 and 2 together?
@PrincessLockette
@PrincessLockette Жыл бұрын
thank you 😊
@Howlingburd19
@Howlingburd19 9 ай бұрын
Well you see the main difference between the two is that the prequels actually had some sort of plan or structure. They were far from perfect but they answered a lot of questions, there were some arcs, and for the most part, everything made sense. Most of the puzzle pieces fit together. I believe the main flaws of the prequels were the screenplay and execution. Meanwhile the sequels had no plan, and no vision of any kind. There’s so many writing errors and plot holes, barely any arcs (and the characters that did have arcs came off as disappointing), and it feels so sloppy. The puzzle pieces don’t fit together. And it doesn’t help that there was a lot of PC-influence. The sequels have lots of flaws, but I believe the biggest one is the writing.
@CaptSaiyaman1941
@CaptSaiyaman1941 4 жыл бұрын
She never goes on a hero's journey because shes not a hero.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why it was weird how after the showdown in the throne room Rey didn't just punt Kylo out a window and seize control of the First Order with Commander McManchild bowing to her overwhelming power and assuming Kylo was dead. Think about it, she's basically Anakin Skywalker, an orphan from a desert hellscape that's too old for Jedi training, but does it anyway under the guidance of an incompetent mentor. Except, even Anakin lost fights, even if it wasn't many.
@NoOne-fe3gc
@NoOne-fe3gc 4 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper But Anakin had an arch, and he had training, he was "too old" at like 8yo. She is fucking 20 - 30 something, 0 training, 0 anythingm and uses the force. Even though the jorney of Anakin was known and thus couldn;t provide many surprises it still existed and was 100X better than Rey's, then again, it is easy to be better than something that don't exist anyway
@theblackcatvieweraccount5402
@theblackcatvieweraccount5402 4 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper during the 10 year jump between episode 1&2, Anakin had been training in the use of the force. He lost a couple of fights in that time. When he finally got good he was filled with arrogance about his improvement, leading to his loss with count Duku. He was humbled by that in episode 3, but his impatience and aggression had the Jedi Council concerned. So they withheld the rank of master from him in order to see what his path would be. This inadvertantly drove him to the dark side. His character flaws played out. Rey has nothing like this. Anakin was literally born from the force, and he still needed years of training before he had a grasp of the force. Rey just shows up out of know where with master level force skills, no personality, no character flaw, but totally isn't a Mary sue... Right. And I'm the queen of England.
@abhabh6896
@abhabh6896 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe she is the antagonist and Kylo is the protagonist?
@NoOne-fe3gc
@NoOne-fe3gc 4 жыл бұрын
@@abhabh6896 Meh, I am guessing that's what jar jar abrams want you to think with that shot of rey and the red sabers, so he can just "subvert your expectations" with his "mystery box", gosh what a wanker
@DarthDevorin
@DarthDevorin 5 жыл бұрын
Rey: "I bypassed the Hero's Journey."
@TheCriticalDrinker
@TheCriticalDrinker 5 жыл бұрын
Comment of the day right there!
@alexandermilner4248
@alexandermilner4248 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😂
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 5 жыл бұрын
Statement: correct meatbag
@bobsyouryouknowthething6751
@bobsyouryouknowthething6751 5 жыл бұрын
She ate it.
@acheron9515
@acheron9515 5 жыл бұрын
Hawke is a gary sue
@58icarus
@58icarus Жыл бұрын
I think there’s a simple reason Rey’s character doesn’t have to struggle to achieve anything: Her writers never did.
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 8 ай бұрын
The result of years of 🚁 parenting and "Participation" medals and trophies...
@kitkatcarebear7170
@kitkatcarebear7170 3 жыл бұрын
Disney: Our main character is going to be inspiring and empowering! Audience: Cool what makes them so inspiring and empowering? Disney: She’s a girl
@LiveFreeOrDie2A
@LiveFreeOrDie2A Жыл бұрын
It would have been bad enough if they stopped there, but they didn’t.. It was less about “she’s a girl” and more about “she’s NOT a man”. They didn’t just make the girl OP, they made all the men neutered pathetic husks at the hands of women. Luke, Finn, Po..
@xminusone1
@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын
The thing is that a woman lead would have been refreshing. Of course there would be some stupid people who would have critisised only because she's a woman but other than that, it doesn't matter what gender the character would be if it was written as real believable person. If it was a guy instead of Rey, people wouldn't have liked it more.
@darkestvengence139
@darkestvengence139 Жыл бұрын
true
@PuppySubotic
@PuppySubotic 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin was the chosen one and he stilled had to be trained.
@wd940
@wd940 4 жыл бұрын
This here In the canon you have to be trained to use the force, that’s how it works. This stupid fanfic is a star wars themed rip off and it’s shit
@Moorhys
@Moorhys 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! I just argue with someone that even if she was 4 times more powerful than Anakin, it shouldn’t matter! Like a person can be in peak physical condition but if they’ve never boxed and you put them in the ring, they would die every single time
@wd940
@wd940 4 жыл бұрын
@@Moorhys perfect analogy
@ElZamo92
@ElZamo92 4 жыл бұрын
Will Dawson and Disney dared say all the extended universe is “non canon”, unlike the new shite movies.
@wd940
@wd940 4 жыл бұрын
ElZamo92 hadn’t heard that but it wouldn’t surprise me they suck
@mosesmarlboro5401
@mosesmarlboro5401 5 жыл бұрын
Trust me dude, were all rooting for Kylo Ren now
@andreshipp6212
@andreshipp6212 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but he doesn't have a snowman chance in hell in beating Rey!! He couldn't beat her when she was untrained. This next movie will be a joke!!
@weknowthetruth6863
@weknowthetruth6863 4 жыл бұрын
MosesMarlboro you mean Discount Vader? HELL NO. Here’s the leak from makingstar wars A dark acolyte enters a first order soldier and the acolyte thinks it is palpatine. It then enters kylo ren who begs rey to kill him to save the galaxy. She does
@kv-2thekingofderp866
@kv-2thekingofderp866 4 жыл бұрын
True. A good villain has to be competent, possibly sympathetic (being sympathetic is usually great, but not necessary for every villain), have understandable motivations and above all, he must be intimidating and powerful. (unless it's comedy) Kylo Ren is pathetic, whiny boy that got beaten every time he showed up. The last movie should have stakes higher than ever, and how is it going to accomplish that when the main villain is a joke who got his ass kicked by an untrained Mary Sue in the first movie?
@billyjohnson3674
@billyjohnson3674 4 жыл бұрын
That edgy kid? Nah. Since anyone can use a light saber, I want to see Chewie in Episode 9 take Kylo's light saber and stab it in Kylo like he did his father. I'm rooting for Chewie.
@suckmyass7368
@suckmyass7368 4 жыл бұрын
Why shouldn't you root for Kylo Ren? The trilogy is more about him than it is about Rey.
@ninaaniston1717
@ninaaniston1717 3 жыл бұрын
“Rey can be salvaged in the final film” - dude, that ship sailed... straight to the bottom of the harbour.
@zeke7972
@zeke7972 3 жыл бұрын
And into the underworld
@josephsalmonte4995
@josephsalmonte4995 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeke7972 The cellar in the basement of that underworld.
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 2 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker!
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 Жыл бұрын
I'm the Skywalker and you gotta deal with it!
@jadonlimoges1830
@jadonlimoges1830 Жыл бұрын
That plane flew right into the ground
@jordanpickthall0619
@jordanpickthall0619 3 жыл бұрын
It would’ve so much more interesting if Luke defeated her and put her in her place. His experience would’ve been an immovable object for her petulance and would’ve grounded her character, forcing her to change her perspective and embrace the reality that she has much to learn. But no. She defeats him because “hurr you go girl.”
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 Жыл бұрын
Ruin is such a hack. I can't wait for his Star Wars trilogy.
@marbellaotaiza801
@marbellaotaiza801 9 ай бұрын
@jordanpickthall16 one day, an AI "filmmaker" will drop by and read this, and the resulting video will be an epic catharsis.
@NYWallCrawler
@NYWallCrawler 4 жыл бұрын
Every other character: becoming a jedi is extremely difficult. Rey: *_Actually it's super easy barely an inconvenience._*
@jw9737
@jw9737 3 жыл бұрын
The rest of us: "O'RLY?!"
@sphtu8
@sphtu8 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, yeah, yeah! 😂
@Brigada91RealBriggy
@Brigada91RealBriggy 3 жыл бұрын
all you need is a Sith or Jedi grandpa
@jw9737
@jw9737 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brigada91RealBriggy or bad writing 😂
@JamesSoult
@JamesSoult 3 жыл бұрын
@El Padre con Verga Larga Whoopsie!
@Paul-jw9vi
@Paul-jw9vi 5 жыл бұрын
With no training, no experience, and no familiarity with the force she beat a trained, skilled and experienced (essentially veteran with multiple kills) Jedi. What a joke.
@Maladjester
@Maladjester 4 жыл бұрын
I've had weapon training in martial arts class. You want to find out how clueless, clumsy, and ineffectual you (and everyone else) really are? Pick up a sword for the first time. It's quite embarrassing. I always thought of the Force as an extension of existing skills, i.e. you still need to know something, it just makes you faster and better than anyone with your level of training could possibly be. But if that were true, Luke would have beaten Rey even without using the Force, because you don't pick up a foil for the second time and defeat an Olympic fencer, full stop, end of discussion. Since that didn't happen, the only possible conclusion is Rey gets not only extra speed and precision from the Force, but the expertise itself. This means she's like a Matrix character, artificially implanted with impossible mastery of every skill in existence. The question then becomes, why can she do this but no one else? All I can come up with (besides MUH FEMINIZUM) is she somehow contains all the Force ghosts that have ever existed, absorbing all their power and experience. It's why everything is easy for her. It's why "a thousand generations live in you now." Mind you, I doubt it will be anything that interesting. There will be no explanation, she's just stronger than everyone because vagina.
@dmc3489
@dmc3489 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, it became frighteningly clear how similar Rey's and Captain Marvel's characters truly are...
@NationalEligraphic
@NationalEligraphic 4 жыл бұрын
She beat a well trained apprentice , couldn’t agree more.
@Imblu95
@Imblu95 4 жыл бұрын
@@Maladjester you dont need experience with martial arts 2 see that she is shit with the "sword" lol
@mxtung4209
@mxtung4209 4 жыл бұрын
@@dmc3489 What's wrong with Captain Marvel? Or are you just a sheep jumping on the hate wagon? Captain Marvel had years and years of specialized training. Rey is just a random homeless kid with no training, but she just suddenly became god at everything.
@LilyMagick
@LilyMagick 3 жыл бұрын
Completely opposite to Luke Skywalker, Rey is exactly the same person at the beggining of the story than at the end of the trilogy. With Luke, it’s incredible that the Luke we meet in the first movie is the same character that we see in the last movie of his trilogy. He has immense character development and she has zero.
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 2 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker!
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 Жыл бұрын
I'm the Skywalker and you gotta deal with it!
@whoisyouranime
@whoisyouranime 9 ай бұрын
I bet you weren't expecting this video to reach 1 million views and you thought, "Huh! I should do this as a job". I am glad you kept doing videos like this years later. It's a pleasure watching your videos, sir.
@russyo4726
@russyo4726 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars episode 7- Ok, maybe.. Star Wars episode 8- I don’t want to watch Star Wars anymore. Star Wars episode 9- I refuse to see it.
@bobross4305
@bobross4305 4 жыл бұрын
Yea and you got that right
@abedoesstuff542
@abedoesstuff542 4 жыл бұрын
I saw it and I regret watching it.
@EnglishHuscarl
@EnglishHuscarl 4 жыл бұрын
That's me too. I have no intention of seeing episode 9.
@waynemcleod6767
@waynemcleod6767 4 жыл бұрын
Dido.
@colz848
@colz848 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly agree, except ep7, thought that was a shit show from the start and walking out the cinema made a decision not to pay to see another Disney wars movie, stuck to streaming the stuff to keep up with how badly they were fucking the ip over, gotta say they did a class job at fucking up probably the best franchise ever
@ericevans1148
@ericevans1148 3 жыл бұрын
I want to like Rey... She was a perfectly decent character until she left Jakku. Then it just got worse and worse, to the point where I wanted her to be the villian of the story.
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 2 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker!
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 Жыл бұрын
She would have been perfect as a Jedi Padawan that started off good-natured and kind, just to lose herself in the power of the dark side. You could start to like her, get slightly annoyed with her being a smug know-it-all, then watch as she starts to see her allies as below her because she's a Jedi and they aren't etc. It would make more sense than what they tried to do with Kylo. Ugh.
@TheDarthSoldier
@TheDarthSoldier 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaand she wasn't salvaged... you deserve a medal for just calling out everything that needed fixing, that we all knew they wouldn't fix
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 5 жыл бұрын
They confused "strong" with "invincible". Even Superman can be hurt. Oh, but he's a man.
@Freeman3692
@Freeman3692 4 жыл бұрын
And looking up Wonder Woman's skirt makes her even stronger. And when ogled by a crowd of males she becomes what superman never could . . . invincible.
@BlackLegion12621
@BlackLegion12621 4 жыл бұрын
One of the longest standing criticisms of Superman actually is that he is too powerful. While there are things that can hurt him, yes, his absurd amount of power means that he rarely has to face significant adversity. The same applies to Rei.
@SoulSir5vr
@SoulSir5vr 4 жыл бұрын
Rey does have a weakness or kryptonite...a good script.
@createtrouble
@createtrouble 4 жыл бұрын
Superman also has ties to friends and family that can be used against him. Ray is a loner with no ties
@TheRobmcknz
@TheRobmcknz 4 жыл бұрын
Superman is vulnerable to magic, was killed by Doomsday (without kryptonite or magic, btw), has had knockdown, drag out fights with Darkseid and Mongul, among several other villains of similar power levels, not to mention dealings with Brainiac. People who say Superman has no one on his same power level and never has a significant threat don't read comics, or don't read them enough.
@nilssjoeberg73
@nilssjoeberg73 4 жыл бұрын
I hate that so-called “feminists“ ruined female characters. If your character is strong or powerful just because they happen to be female you can’t write. If your character is strong because of training and development and happens to be female, you got it right.
@ahgetouttaere7808
@ahgetouttaere7808 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how badly i want to put a "unless" as a joke, but im scared somebody might take it seriously and rage more than the freagin doom guy
@marcusalvarez370
@marcusalvarez370 3 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy and her feminist agenda couldn't give original Star Wars fans just ONE movie of the trilogy to have Mark Hamill and the original cast be the heroes... no... REY... just...REY...
@laufert7100
@laufert7100 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, take Ahsoka. She was hated by almost everyone when she first appeared in the Clone Wars movie: unlikable, Jar Jar like. She wasn't strong. But now she is one of the most loved Star Wars characters, both the final arc of season 5 and season 7 are amazing thanks to her, as she develops and becomes a better Jedi and a better person than even the Council. She also has a point in the overall story, proving Anakin's inability to let go that ultimately led him on the path to the Dark Side. And she's a woman, but that doesn't change anything for her character
@macintoshcomputingdevice8016
@macintoshcomputingdevice8016 3 жыл бұрын
leia was great in the original, she was witty, a leader, a badass, and most importantly she was strong and independent without being a mary sur
@firstnamelastname7783
@firstnamelastname7783 3 жыл бұрын
Female empowering at the beginning just meant that women can accomplish the same as men. And we all like that, examples are Ashoka Tano or Princess Lea. I would actually love to see more feminine female characters. For examope a strong mother fighting for her children, or like lea was, she wasn't fighting phsyciacally, she was making a difference with politics and intelligence.
@invisibleman4827
@invisibleman4827 3 жыл бұрын
The people who use the "mansplaining" excuse to Rey being a poorly-written character are the sort of people who would've let Chernobyl explode.
@godamid4889
@godamid4889 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I hated the prequels, this is exactly why they rank well above the sequels. At least they tried to build a coherent story with the prequels.
@Novous
@Novous 4 жыл бұрын
If Ray could train herself on the island, why the hell did she even need to find Luke in the first place?
@elvis4868
@elvis4868 4 жыл бұрын
To humiliate him and overthrow the patriachy duh...
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
Originally, Rey was only going to find Luke and bring him back to the Resistance. That was her whole purpose for going to the island in the first place!
@DammIhateThisName
@DammIhateThisName 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the point for this sjw writers
@maul5578
@maul5578 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Regan doesn’t matter
@matijasmilianic4441
@matijasmilianic4441 4 жыл бұрын
Why to bring him back when you can just kick his ass and be a badass woman 👏👏👏
@r_r_rye2441
@r_r_rye2441 5 жыл бұрын
One thing feminists fail to understand about their Mary Sue power fantasies is that ultimately, it's like beating a video game on the easiest difficulty. You may finish it feeling all-powerful, but victory is never satisfying.
@TheCriticalDrinker
@TheCriticalDrinker 5 жыл бұрын
That pretty much nails the entire issue right there.
@cl114c0777498d
@cl114c0777498d 4 жыл бұрын
they cheated not only the game, but themselves
@jakeand9020
@jakeand9020 4 жыл бұрын
No, typical male power fantasy is like beating the game on easy. This is beating the game on easy with "god mode" on, and considering it an accomplishment.
@BlackLegion12621
@BlackLegion12621 4 жыл бұрын
Theres also the fact that a power fantasy character can only appeal to certain crowd. Nothing wrong with that inheritantly, but Star Wars is meant to have universal appeal.
@lho10101
@lho10101 4 жыл бұрын
You give them far too much credit. Anyone who can deluded themselves to that level has yet to develop any degree of self awareness.
@loremaster8475
@loremaster8475 Жыл бұрын
i blame narcissism on the writers and on those who think confidence is something you don't need to earn. it took me as a human many ass whopping's before i could learn how to take a punch and how to talk to people without pissing everyone off. now i know i could take a hit and know that I'm strong enough to let go of my pride and speak to people as if they was well people. humility is needed in this world
@seanmcclure
@seanmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
I love your disclaimer in the beginning here and how far you’ve come now in 2022. You are fearless now without conditions.
@robotpanda77
@robotpanda77 5 жыл бұрын
When the purple haired woman showed up in the last jedi I couldn't believe we had fallen this low.
@weknowthetruth6863
@weknowthetruth6863 4 жыл бұрын
robotpanda77 TFA ruined everything
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
At least she died, so there's that!
@GregBreden
@GregBreden 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought she had a CGI extra-long neck.
@suckmyass7368
@suckmyass7368 4 жыл бұрын
So you've never seen a purpled haired woman in Japanese anime?
@bryanduke1973
@bryanduke1973 4 жыл бұрын
And her neck was long enough to be a giraffe what is up with SJWs with the stretch neck syndrome
@Conscript83
@Conscript83 4 жыл бұрын
Luke was created by passionate humans. Rey was created by feminists....
@arushamm
@arushamm 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking duh
@Courier_6
@Courier_6 4 жыл бұрын
Therefore feminists and Rey are without souls.
@RazzyJo
@RazzyJo 4 жыл бұрын
not feminists. feminists make valid points. she was created by feminazis. they're just crazy.
@mahm2404
@mahm2404 4 жыл бұрын
darealarushan *feminazis
@arkadiusztrzesniewski4237
@arkadiusztrzesniewski4237 4 жыл бұрын
Written by leftist, nihilistic, resentful cringe-worthy femi-nazis with no passion nor talent.
@lordtrinen2249
@lordtrinen2249 3 жыл бұрын
I come from the future to let you know if they successfully fixed Rey or not in the last movie. They...didn't. RIP Star Wars.
@craighampton2873
@craighampton2873 2 жыл бұрын
Your review was extremely refreshing mate. I immediately turned off the movie when Rey beat Kylo in the initial fight. I'd hope Kylo would be much like Vader perhaps better to continue the power and threat of the dark side. But they had to screw it up by allowing Rey to win and reduce Kylo to Bit-h status. I never bothered to watch it again beyond that particular scene. Your review was spot on. Appreciate mate.
@minkleymcmoo5248
@minkleymcmoo5248 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that Kylo is the one on the hero's journey.
@kempkennedy3542
@kempkennedy3542 4 жыл бұрын
If we are really being honest... his character sucks too. It only 'seems' it may be more interesting to some die-hards since at least there is some actual conflict in the character. But lightly scratch beyond that and... big nada.
@wd940
@wd940 4 жыл бұрын
Kemp Kennedy seems to be conflict and by comparison to any other character that’s a lot lol These films have no tension or threat or development It basically all doesn’t matter at all and it’s impossible to be invested in them If Luke had lost his was and was bitter and angry and sad about kylo or whatever, why not have him threaten Rey with harm to make it be a more impactful journey for him to change mindset and train Rey then have him train her Have Rey have a battle that she gets injured in and someone saves her Why do these films make so much money Who the fuck is directing them and giving the final go Do they think these are good or do they just know they’ll make money, in strongly inclined towards the latter
@durden2480
@durden2480 4 жыл бұрын
They made him a Whiney soy pussy
@NeverDoubtMe23
@NeverDoubtMe23 4 жыл бұрын
@@durden2480 ummm....you have seen revenge of the sith right? Kylo is 1000x less whiny than Anakin. This was from Lucas and tbh, TFA is a way better movie than the shitty prequels by Lucas. Remember the fart jokes? Yeah, that is the great Lucas star wars world. TLJ was a bad movie and completely ruined star wars and what TFA setup. I liked JJ's version and for people who bitch that it is just a repeat of the original story arc: um....yeah, that is what star wars is, balance between dark and light, light turning to dark, etc. All the books and stories follow the same plot.....not sure why this was such a big surprise to everyone??
@historian252
@historian252 4 жыл бұрын
TFA is far worse than the prequels and TLJ is worse than that.
@andrewkim6037
@andrewkim6037 4 жыл бұрын
Rey is the most ridiculous character in Star Wars. They should just go ahead and give Jar Jar a lightsaber already.
@eamonnfear7589
@eamonnfear7589 4 жыл бұрын
It happened. And it was much cooler
@edrosa3485
@edrosa3485 4 жыл бұрын
Technically Jar Jar would be awesome as a Jedi.
@MexMX
@MexMX 4 жыл бұрын
@@edrosa3485 He would be a more awesome Sith!
@keithwebb9839
@keithwebb9839 4 жыл бұрын
He disguised himself as a jedi in Clone Wars
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Darth Jar Jar wasn't revealed to be a secret Sith Lord working with Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith was the greatest missed opportunity in the prequel trilogy. It would've been perfect and explained so much about the progression of the story's various events and add some behind the scenes reinforcement to Anakin's fall to the dark side.
@jrpg4484
@jrpg4484 Жыл бұрын
One thing you didn't have on your list; instantly knowing how to swim after living on a desert planet her entire life and having never encountered so much as a puddle of water before.
@michaelorozco9761
@michaelorozco9761 3 жыл бұрын
let's not mention the perfect teeth having grown up on a desert planet with no dentist or her perfect nails
@Jordy-wx3hd
@Jordy-wx3hd 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see her fight a sith without plot armor
@Rumbling666
@Rumbling666 4 жыл бұрын
She'd lose, most sith apprentices are stronger than most jedi
@xzenitramx666
@xzenitramx666 4 жыл бұрын
Still has the power of femenism and wahmen those ate even more powerfull
@jacksimpson8529
@jacksimpson8529 4 жыл бұрын
Revan and Malak would fuck her up.
@ultidragonlord887
@ultidragonlord887 3 жыл бұрын
She would lose 3 moves into the fight probably even less.
@ultidragonlord887
@ultidragonlord887 3 жыл бұрын
@Top Lobster He wins but I seen as sexist or she wins and is seen as a 'strong female character'.
@burningmisery
@burningmisery 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating how Rey has perfect teeth, eyebrows, etc. despite having lived her entire life on a godforsaken planet with almost no water.
@sephiroth3553
@sephiroth3553 4 жыл бұрын
Or how she can swim like an Olympic athlete, despite being in a desert with no bodies of water.
@alastairpreece6908
@alastairpreece6908 4 жыл бұрын
Rey's teeth can eat other people's teeth. Because girl power.
@burningmisery
@burningmisery 4 жыл бұрын
@Enzo 1965 That would require doing squats and more, which these modern women don't care about 'cause they're "perfect". However, she"s beautiful and somewhat talented.
@x00p3
@x00p3 4 жыл бұрын
@@burningmisery Deadlifts are good for that too.
@burningmisery
@burningmisery 4 жыл бұрын
@@x00p3 They're great for anyone who can do them. They're great for the body and mind, by releasing dopamine, serotonin and endorfine 🤘
@xymos7807
@xymos7807 Жыл бұрын
Whats funny is the 3rd movie or less did what you said with mixed results. Good job Drinker! Love your work.
@StephensCrazyHour
@StephensCrazyHour 3 жыл бұрын
Rian Johnson could have saved the entire movie and even made it awesome if Rey had have joined Kylo Ren in the throne room scene. I was, at that point, cheering for her to do just that. It made so much sense for her character. Think about it, she was left out disappointed by everyone she had ever met except for Kylo. He was the closest thing she'd ever had to a family at that point. He was promising her the ability to change everything, to rule everything. She had no reason to have a moral compass to say no. I genuinely would have respected the "subversion of tropes" meme if she had have fallen. Episode 9 could then have been about the redemption of Kylo and the destruction of Rey, who was the supreme leader.
@davidwilliam9681
@davidwilliam9681 Жыл бұрын
If that were the plot, maybe Finn would have something useful to do.
@codyrogers6436
@codyrogers6436 5 жыл бұрын
Even Luke Skywalker knew that she was not worth his time😆😆😆
@TheCen17
@TheCen17 5 жыл бұрын
So true... :D
@mccalltrader
@mccalltrader 5 жыл бұрын
The last Jedi makes a bit more sense through that lens
@Dragonage2ftw
@Dragonage2ftw 5 жыл бұрын
Cringe.
@bannedvideos3399
@bannedvideos3399 5 жыл бұрын
@Fisher Theo get a life
@anthonyaguirre7143
@anthonyaguirre7143 5 жыл бұрын
You have redeemed that cringy TLJ Luke scene for me. Hamil knew all along, lol.
@tmass1
@tmass1 4 жыл бұрын
Rey runs to HR department, "Luke tried to feel my force"
@yaboieric9648
@yaboieric9648 4 жыл бұрын
i just laughed so hard my stomach is fucking aching
@pbcman1
@pbcman1 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the part where she waits till years after hes dead to say anything and he loses his new job as a light side force ghost😖
@osiepafy
@osiepafy 4 жыл бұрын
Eiiiish..... 👍👍👍
@RomansRule1234
@RomansRule1234 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are flippen funny
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to feel HER force!
@michaskup7919
@michaskup7919 3 жыл бұрын
Masters of Jedi Order failed to kill or even scratch Palpatine beyond what he allowed them to, yet Rey killed him in seconds.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 3 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu manage to deform Palpatine with his own force lightning.
@TheBrowncoat2112
@TheBrowncoat2112 2 жыл бұрын
It’s fun to come back and listen to some of these old Drinker videos… the channel has certainly evolved and it’s odd to not be told “go away now!” at the end.
@reallife1614
@reallife1614 4 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy's Star Wars Trilogy! The Call to Wokeness The Age of Jokeness The Fall to Brokeness
@fecking_weirdo
@fecking_weirdo 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate
@BasicShapes
@BasicShapes 4 жыл бұрын
Love it, it's damn true sadly
@aleksamrkela831
@aleksamrkela831 4 жыл бұрын
The Force Gets Woke The Last Patriarch The Rise of Skywoker
@cosmicdraconian6712
@cosmicdraconian6712 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Stoutaragua
@Stoutaragua 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! 👍
@Dblaster02
@Dblaster02 4 жыл бұрын
The best moments in this trilogy is the first 5 minutes of TFA when your first look at the new villain is a dark a menacing Kilo Ren that immobilized Poe and freezes a laser bolt in the air. After that... It all goes down the drain.
@jacookie9707
@jacookie9707 4 жыл бұрын
Dblaster02 I remember seeing episode 7 for the first time in theaters, the opening scene was hype as hell, and boiiii when soylo froze the bolt I was genuinely excited for Star Wars. Unfortunately the rest of the movie played... and the last Jedi happened... ;_;
@Zeddyboi86
@Zeddyboi86 4 жыл бұрын
Dblaster02 Don’t forget that scene where we see a stormtrooper stumbling around, panicking in battle, and showing actual thought and emotions. Very thought provoking and interesting, but again, they wasted it later on.
@CrispyHulk1
@CrispyHulk1 4 жыл бұрын
Rey scavenging was also an incredible, beautifully shot sequence. But yea... the sequel trilogy blows.
@thomas_kabb2371
@thomas_kabb2371 4 жыл бұрын
Dblaster02 and also when R2D2 shows up
@dndlnx
@dndlnx 4 жыл бұрын
@ThePeoplesChamp when she’s sliding down the sand dune, and Rey’s theme is playing. That did something for me. 🤔
@kimberlyoldschool
@kimberlyoldschool 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still amazed that anyone rooted for Rey over Kylo in all this. The movie worked overtime to make Kylo a bad guy and he was still 1000 times more interesting than Ray. I dream of a future where someone spices together all the footage from all the films into one movie where Kylo is the main character and Rey is a side character and/or the narrator.
@chamberscmt
@chamberscmt 3 жыл бұрын
"Let Rey learn something from Luke," Isn't that the whole apprentice-master relationship? Although your observation should be obvious (it wasn't to me when I watched any of these films) it is quite important to the series. That's like a whole part of the jedi identity that there is always a master-apprentice relationship, there is never some rogue-solo vigilante jedi, everyone operates as part of a whole.
@ilaughatfunnyshit3482
@ilaughatfunnyshit3482 4 жыл бұрын
She is a girl. She already knows everything. Welcome to 2019
@truesoulghost2777
@truesoulghost2777 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to so called equality.
@rdm5190
@rdm5190 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure?im betting she'll come out as a transgender
@ilaughatfunnyshit3482
@ilaughatfunnyshit3482 4 жыл бұрын
@@rdm5190 lol. My bad. Proly right there haha
@fisch4638
@fisch4638 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilaughatfunnyshit3482 You tell me where you live right know or ill have the genderpolice track down your IP and put you in prison so you have time to think about the horrible thing you just have done to a imaginary Charakter!!!
@ilaughatfunnyshit3482
@ilaughatfunnyshit3482 4 жыл бұрын
@@fisch4638 omg im like so offended that you think i would comit such an imaginary imoral thing. Hahahaha
@4piousmen
@4piousmen 4 жыл бұрын
Kathleen is exactly like Palpatine, hiding in the shadows for many years, getting higher and higher in ranks and finally when the time came she revealed herself as a true villain.
@zeke7972
@zeke7972 3 жыл бұрын
And her voice sounds.....
@jeremysears4263
@jeremysears4263 2 жыл бұрын
Lucas ex-wife said the same thing about her.
@G--qq2bo
@G--qq2bo 2 жыл бұрын
Dang that sounds like how Stalin rose to power.
@nocturneuh
@nocturneuh Жыл бұрын
@4PiousMen: You are insulting Palpatine, there was sacrifice / determination / patience / method / guile / intelligence behind Palpatine's ultimate endgame which was to become the absolute leader of a galactic empire. Kathleen's legacy on the other hand was to mutate a cinematic masterpiece into a soulless, barely recognisable shell of what it once was in the shortest time possible. You can learn lessons from villains like Palpatine, the Joker, Vader; to compare Kathleen to them does them a disservice. She may be a petulant child in a position of influence, and the outcome has been disastrous; much like a child getting access to his dad's firearm. "Exactly like Palpatine", far from it.
@marbellaotaiza801
@marbellaotaiza801 9 ай бұрын
​@@nocturneuh her biggest achievement's been to turn a billion dollar property into a million dollar property
@scribbles1424
@scribbles1424 3 жыл бұрын
Rey is such a Mary Sue that she makes anime Sue's look like well thought out characters. It's too bad Rey wasn't a man because then people would realize how terrible she and these movies are.
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 3 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker!
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 3 жыл бұрын
@@draftmagicagain1000 Rey Palpatine
@pianodude6510
@pianodude6510 3 жыл бұрын
God, The clone wars show really does a good job with ALL of these points, unlike these new movies. Clone wars is a masterpiece, and it saves the prequels in my opinion.
@omnianti0
@omnianti0 3 жыл бұрын
alakbar
@pianodude6510
@pianodude6510 3 жыл бұрын
@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer well it gives the first 2 more of significance and character build, tho they still aren’t great. Honestly, those movies kinda suck as a whole. Alone, they’re good, but there just isn’t nearly enough info in between, Clone Wars (especially a specific select of episodes) gives that much needed filler to explain everything unexplained or not built upon in the prequels (mainly ROTS). For example, the clones are introduced in AOTC, they fights a talk a bit, then betray the Jedi. This has no significance and is mainly just confusing, until you watch Clone Wars and realize how it works, and how the clone troopers aren’t just boring robots who are actually working for Palpatine. It also makes Anakin a much better character, with a more believable turn to the dark side. Also, with the addition of new characters who end up being some of the best in Star Wars (Ahsoka, Rex, Maul, Hondo). Listen, I’ve always loved the prequels, but my dad always hated them. I had him watch like half of the storie sin clone wars and now he really like ROTS (he still doesn’t really like the first 2). Trust me, watching Clone Wars will change any prequel hater’s thoughts on the prequels, especially ROTS.
@omnianti0
@omnianti0 3 жыл бұрын
@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer clonewar save all the serie because the dropship that land a walker is what i want to see in any movie
@blackroc01
@blackroc01 4 жыл бұрын
As a MAN I completely and utterly HATE HOW they have CASTRATED EVERY MAN IN THE DISNEY SW movies. The TOXIC FEMININITY is WAAAY TOO STRONG
@redel37
@redel37 4 жыл бұрын
They'll come in handy for the next non-binary trilogy :D
@blackroc01
@blackroc01 4 жыл бұрын
@@redel37 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rronaldreagan
@rronaldreagan 4 жыл бұрын
The sad part is that it is a reflection of western society. F3males are being pampered and lifted into higher positions just because they are f3males (many times even if they cant perform) While men are being discriminated against and exploited to pick up the slack those empowered and useless f3males leave behind
@njnjhjh8918
@njnjhjh8918 4 жыл бұрын
Are you high?
@yurichtube1162
@yurichtube1162 4 жыл бұрын
@@rronaldreagan it is true
@AColonDashSix
@AColonDashSix 4 жыл бұрын
Rey is such a terrible character, she basically single handedly made the sequels non-canon
@omnianti0
@omnianti0 3 жыл бұрын
disney own barbie
@justinavery8664
@justinavery8664 2 жыл бұрын
Luke single handedly saved his trilogy😉🤣
@MariOmor1
@MariOmor1 2 жыл бұрын
You're acting like that's a bad thing
@amilitarymind
@amilitarymind 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👌
@angkhoanguyen6114
@angkhoanguyen6114 2 жыл бұрын
@@MariOmor1 Because it is a bad thing. Let's face it, Star Wars Sequel Trilogy is trash.
@vape9546
@vape9546 3 жыл бұрын
Rey literally picked up a lightsabre and could fight a experienced sith lord like wtf
@NuttySquirrel_8
@NuttySquirrel_8 6 ай бұрын
Damn it, Drinker, the first 45 seconds of this video was so spot on, it inspired me to buy some of your merch. Cheers!
@sbn025
@sbn025 4 жыл бұрын
she took 3 "lessons" and now is a master jedi! what a truckload of bullcrap
@MegaOht
@MegaOht 4 жыл бұрын
She gets an orange lightsaber at the end which means she is a protector of the force, Luke-blows up Death Star Luke-survives an encounter with darth frikin Vader Luke-beats an almost unkillable alien with just a rock and a door Luke-resists dark side Luke-survives continuous sith lightning Like-revives frikin darth Vader Rey didn’t even destroy star killer base and is deemed perfect and the protector
@xodro99
@xodro99 4 жыл бұрын
MegaOht Yeah pretty fucked up how agenda & politics can mess with us these days.
@Rumbling666
@Rumbling666 4 жыл бұрын
She isn't a Jedi Master tho.
@_zkittlez_1956
@_zkittlez_1956 3 жыл бұрын
@Varaug Carsaib Jesus dude, that better be copy and paste.
@r.prokop660
@r.prokop660 3 жыл бұрын
Technically two if one is being generous; one if being honest.
@351cleavland
@351cleavland 5 жыл бұрын
In Episode 9 Rey will be in front of Kylo, both with their sabers lit, when she pulls off her human mask and says in a high voice, "Mesa back!" Kylo kneels and says, "Master."
@jasonbrown4526
@jasonbrown4526 5 жыл бұрын
Nah. That's better than the actual storyline that they will go with.
@tannerblack4498
@tannerblack4498 4 жыл бұрын
What a twist!
@naomist.claire8419
@naomist.claire8419 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my GOD, YES!!! x’D
@EvilFookaire
@EvilFookaire 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I, very passionately, want to see Jar Jar get raped to death by a herd of tauntauns and at least two rancors, it would be the kind of twist that's 500% more creative and credible than anything that Disney Soy Wars has crapped out so far.
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
And the whole mentally challenged shtick was all an act so nobody would suspect a thing!
@captaindropkik
@captaindropkik 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for all the actors involved that I wish I could remake the movies, keep the actors and characters and actually do them justice
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 2 жыл бұрын
Rey would need to be the jealous antagonist, maybe then we could see some real acting out of Daisy.
@marbellaotaiza801
@marbellaotaiza801 9 ай бұрын
They choose to be part of this. Screw them. In fact, if they ever decanonize this garbage and decide to make it right, make sure that absolutely nobody that worked on garbage works on the new ones; not even the catering...
@stevencoates3382
@stevencoates3382 2 жыл бұрын
"Her personality doesn't change because she doesn't really HAVE one." LOL 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅😅
@danh2716
@danh2716 5 жыл бұрын
Disagree. I don't think this trilogy can be saved. It is further gone than Vader was.
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
Vader was never really gone. He just needed a good solid push to make him good again!
@stevencardwell
@stevencardwell 4 жыл бұрын
It can only be saved by more pandering. This time to the fans and they are not really interested.
@thisismyname3928
@thisismyname3928 4 жыл бұрын
Vader had one foot firmly into sainthood compared the Titanic of trilogies.
@wilhelmbauermeister7092
@wilhelmbauermeister7092 4 жыл бұрын
You remember when Luke was hanging upside in the cave on Hoth? Remember how much he struggled to pull his lightsaber as the Wampa approached? Not Rey... she pulls her lightsaber out of the dirt while Kylo is also attempting to pull the saber at the same time. She overpowered Kylo without any training and made it look like childs play. Remember when Luke struggled against Darth Vader because he didnt complete his training? Not Rey... she grabs a saber and fights Kylo Ren easily without any training AT ALL. Or what about Sidious and his force lightning? Yoda was blown back and sent across the Galactic Senate hall. Not Rey... she pushed back against Sidious and killed him. Or when she was teaching Han Solo about his own damn ship? Rey is the epitome of privilege. Kathleen Kennedy's hero that castrates the Skywalkers, and makes all Jedi look like weak fools. There is no heroes journey... just an overpowered feminist creation that can do everything better. Luke sitting there milking some alien donkeys tit while Rey saves the universe.
@ThieflyChap
@ThieflyChap 3 жыл бұрын
Well put.
@mrsucc2138
@mrsucc2138 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, she knew how to fight with a staff, and Kylo was severely injured in the fight.
@kingcolyx3671
@kingcolyx3671 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrsucc2138 dark side users are empowered by pain, he even punches his wound to make it hurt more, and there's still differences between lightsabers and staffs like weight, the amount of force needed to cause damage, and where you can or can't put your hands.
@victordelatorre8102
@victordelatorre8102 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrsucc2138 well how did kylo beat Finn then
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 3 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker!
@Razvanh29
@Razvanh29 3 жыл бұрын
Ray is a character made for viewers that are afraid of adversity in their own lives (by "creatives" that also don't like it much). That's why she faces no real adversity herself. Which actually makes her _weak_ not strong.
@andrewwiltse8882
@andrewwiltse8882 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant assessment! Your knowledge of the how things work would overwhelm a writer in Hollyweird these days. Thank you Sir
@dragonhold4
@dragonhold4 5 жыл бұрын
Moral of the Story: Don't give your life's work to a quota-inducted woman.
@roosterbooster6238
@roosterbooster6238 5 жыл бұрын
dragonhold4 the moral is give it to someone with talent to develop a cohesive vision of a story arc
@dragonhold4
@dragonhold4 5 жыл бұрын
...and being Star Wars, it requires that much more talent and vision.
@roosterbooster6238
@roosterbooster6238 5 жыл бұрын
dragonhold4 it only amazes me that they managed to get it so spectacularly wrong. TFA isn’t a bad film but isn’t particularly good for the start of a trilogy as it doesn’t really establish the universe. Especially since the only thing we see of the new republic is them being one shot killed!! TLJ is just where the fuck do we go from here bad. I suppose it does mean the next film will be better 😂😂😂 Honestly I didn’t even think the core characters were that bad in TFA even if the story was weak..in TLJ they are completely lobotomised tho.
@dragonhold4
@dragonhold4 5 жыл бұрын
The Empire 2.0 in 7 was the stupidest thing. It states that the legacy characters were completely inept and how formulaic the new movies planned to be. Episode 8 could have shown Luke in the role of Hagrid protecting and whisking away families to a completely isolated planet. Creating a secret planetary mecca of learning and safety would have been a fulfilled arc for the young Luke and Anakin who wanted to leave Tatooine, the crappy planet. Star Wars today is infected by too many narcissistic parasites. It is going to implode under their weight. They all want their smudgy fingerprints all over the greatest franchise to have ever existed so they nuked all lore and replaced it with their own "genius". Because of their pride and incompetence, every successive movie is a relay race for course corrections. For the 9th, it's too late to build the non-existent lore enough where the actions of the characters seem interesting and impactful. The narcissists are haphazardly trying to close the arc ... implosion is imminent.
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
Don't give your life's work to anyone else, period!
@Mgauge
@Mgauge 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized why the Force seemed so off in these movies: they removed any of the spiritual or philosophical elements from it. It’s just brute force power ups for Rey and Ren to bear up everyone around them.
@tarron3237
@tarron3237 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Remember - with great power comes great.. equality 🤮
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the force is female shirts. Made me want to put my head through a wall. Imagine if I made the force is male shirts, I’d be publicly executed
@janelleg597
@janelleg597 2 жыл бұрын
No rules, no training....nothing
@reecedrystek2992
@reecedrystek2992 2 жыл бұрын
That is true. We never really fully understood the force, but we knew it help. Now it feels like a super street fighter movie trying to get a force combo.
@Thecatspajames
@Thecatspajames 2 жыл бұрын
@Kristopher Chavez 😂 the only gender in the force would be those weird gods in clone wars
@bobwilson6
@bobwilson6 3 жыл бұрын
I need to buy you a drink mate....it's nice to see someone with some intelligence speaking their mind and the truth about the pitiful state of affairs that Star Wars has become under the control of Kathleen Kennedy. I'm glad you have the balls to offer solid ideas about fixing this treasured franchise. I grew up on Star Wars which makes watching what's happening to it all the more frustrating. Disney could learn a lot just by watching your video. Your spot on. Just once I would like to sit down these days and watch a movie or sporting event where left wing PC politics weren't jammed down my fucking throat. Disney is the worst thing that ever happened to a galaxy far, far away. Bring back George Lucas!
@pyametra
@pyametra 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rey trained for a few minutes dancing around a rock on an island, so, of course she's an unstoppable juggernaut.
@davidchung2953
@davidchung2953 4 жыл бұрын
Rey was so cocky trying to convince Luke to join the fight with her. He should've leveled her ego right there and showed her how weak her powers were in comparison to his. But instead, SHE KNOCKS HIM TO THE GROUND.
@rogercoh
@rogercoh 4 жыл бұрын
It was Jake Skywalker Loke's twin.
@socksman9968
@socksman9968 4 жыл бұрын
Exaclty right fuck u, all those years of training under master elites, and endless experience in all sorts of battle, im a whaman so PUSSY FORCE DESTROY HIM!
@NetAndyCz
@NetAndyCz 4 жыл бұрын
@Revan I love Alita, she is so OP, but she is also so human and vulnerable. And even with her (nearly) invincible body she can be taken down by the suffering of those around her.
@JonnyUtah777
@JonnyUtah777 4 жыл бұрын
David Chung - instead she beats Luke (the master) in a sword fight 😂😂😂
@Tronathon242
@Tronathon242 4 жыл бұрын
@Revan Ever read the manga? She nearly dies several times. Her panzerkunst and other abilities are formidable, but she isn't the best there is. She doesn't humble her opponents repeatedly. The best example of this is the motorball arc.
@carnotaurus_rex
@carnotaurus_rex 4 жыл бұрын
Man I was rooting for Kylo cause he had a deeper backstory than Rey and he actually went through some psychological maturity throughout the movies. REY DID NOTHING
@omnianti0
@omnianti0 3 жыл бұрын
barbie have a backstory of perfection
@arnoldo9319
@arnoldo9319 3 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for kylo too. Like jeez it almost seems like we were ment to root for him
@UnlimitedGreenWorks
@UnlimitedGreenWorks 3 жыл бұрын
The guy loses his uncle to the whispers of palpatine voldermotalised, is coerced to join the dark side, kille his father, loses his mom, and dies
@dhilipans5412
@dhilipans5412 3 жыл бұрын
@@UnlimitedGreenWorks somehow star wars has a history for a likeable villains . Like granddad like
@thedonk2
@thedonk2 3 жыл бұрын
Me too . He punked her ass in the last movie lol
@vectorman7644
@vectorman7644 2 жыл бұрын
"He's had his wobbles, but it's time to stop fucking about." Best description of Kylo Ren ever. Thank you, WJ.
@redwing1766
@redwing1766 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they focused on Finn more. They could have done so much with a ex-military, turned good, force sensitive, black( people care about that for some reason) and so much more.
@NonSoCheNickMettere
@NonSoCheNickMettere 2 жыл бұрын
It was the most interesting idea at the beginning of TFA, but it was so wasted :(
@somejerk5662
@somejerk5662 Жыл бұрын
A force sensitive stormtrooper who can make improbable shots is a golden idea for turning the old joke on it's head. So of course they do nothing with it.
@santo2sexy
@santo2sexy 4 жыл бұрын
Rey is like your Elder Scrolls V character after you finish all the side quests then do the main quest. Luke was like your first night in Minecraft without a torch.
@Albert25012501
@Albert25012501 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, Rey is like a player using cheat code.
@Snow-xd4rv
@Snow-xd4rv 4 жыл бұрын
Eloins Musk+ I don’t get either statement. Can someone explain them
@jrtunderground
@jrtunderground 4 жыл бұрын
@@Snow-xd4rv alone, confused, vunerable and lost in the dark vs being a God-like force of nature before whom all foes crumble to dust and are scattered by the four winds
@FUBBA
@FUBBA 4 жыл бұрын
This whole movie was like a bunch of oblivion npcs
@Sneaky1ne
@Sneaky1ne 4 жыл бұрын
@@FUBBA good morning citizen
@spaceace4387
@spaceace4387 4 жыл бұрын
I have always hated Rey's character. Bland, uninteresting and self righteous.
@honestdave
@honestdave 4 жыл бұрын
TRUTH!
@olaniyi570
@olaniyi570 4 жыл бұрын
You just described 99% of women.
@JohnSmith-fe1oq
@JohnSmith-fe1oq 4 жыл бұрын
I hated her in TFA too, but in TLJ she actually kinda grew on me... there she came off as an actual human being, who makes mistakes and can be hurt, rather than an invincible overcompetent Mary Sue. Hated what they did to Luke though.
@spaceace4387
@spaceace4387 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-fe1oq Uh no Rey was still a virtuous Mary Sue in TLJ, her character didn't evolve. Luke Skywalker in TLJ however isn't Luke Skywalker.
@kevinhasch3097
@kevinhasch3097 4 жыл бұрын
What do mean? She makes a perplexed face then an angry face and then runs. She's the Meryl Streep of the 21st century.
@RCassinello
@RCassinello 2 жыл бұрын
The two most annoying things about the new trilogy for me are that (1) it's just unforgiveable that they didn't have a creative team that actually mapped out at least an outline of story for the three movies, instead leading to a middle movie that destroys any of the mystery set up by the first, then a third that tries to undo all of that crap.... But (2) more importantly... We never got to see Han, Luke and Leia together again. If you could ask any original trilogy fan what their most basic expectation for a new trilogy would be... It's that we see our old heroes join up again for some new challenge. Yeah, sure, forty years later would would also damn well expect to see them all killed in the process... But jeez, at least let them high five each other in the process at some point early on.
@liquidnick
@liquidnick 6 ай бұрын
This video aged like a fine wine. Oh, if we only knew then what we know now. I would give my left eye to go back to 2018 and I would give up literally anything to go back to pre 2010.
@marksmith482
@marksmith482 4 жыл бұрын
This trilogy has taken a massive shit on one of the biggest parts of my childhood. It’s honestly heartbreaking.
@jacobbenns6090
@jacobbenns6090 4 жыл бұрын
Same m8, some of my best memories, as a 2000s kid, were watching these movies with my Dad, talking about all the cool stuff in them with my friends, it hurts to see what they've become
@Courier_6
@Courier_6 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why you distinguish between: Disney Star Wars and original Star Wars. Become a Star Wars purist.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 4 жыл бұрын
You put perfectly into words how I feel about it.
@LordWyatt
@LordWyatt 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Smith I grew up loving the Prequels and didn’t understand the early and misused quote, “George Lucas raped my childhood.” They misspelled Kathleen Kennedy’s name🙄Amateurs
@dennisearle
@dennisearle 4 жыл бұрын
We'll always have Star Wars! It's still a great movie... great achievement!
@dzl4524
@dzl4524 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe she paid $5 for an XP boost DLC?
@jeb791
@jeb791 5 жыл бұрын
That’s why she has so much pride and accomplishment
@Trollificusv2
@Trollificusv2 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of KK's"wonderful accomplishments in an industry dominated by men",. did you know that Star Trek Colon Discovery lists no less that TWENTY-ONE f'ing producers, executive producers, coproducers and assistant-to-the-regional-producers. 21 people who will have on their resume that they were a producer on a big network TV show. And THAT is what Disney SW, Marvel Comics, CBS Star Trek, et. al. produce best: Resume entries.
@howmuchbeforechamp
@howmuchbeforechamp 4 жыл бұрын
Omegalol
@SDguy3030
@SDguy3030 4 жыл бұрын
You mean a surprise mechanic?
@fpcmvny
@fpcmvny 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@cockdiesel69g
@cockdiesel69g 3 жыл бұрын
WHAMEN... THEY'RE JUST COMPLETELY PERFECT, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
@stephenhogg6154
@stephenhogg6154 Жыл бұрын
‘Rey is an inspirational role model for young woman. Let’s use that for Guyladriel’.
@clitoresdestroyer2742
@clitoresdestroyer2742 4 жыл бұрын
When you realise a random writer knows more about Star Wars and how the movies should play out, than the director himself
@alexanderstilianov
@alexanderstilianov 4 жыл бұрын
Not the first time that's happened.
@offlinemedia1784
@offlinemedia1784 4 жыл бұрын
To act like a feminist, melenial, narcacist who likes the smell of there own farts. Woah, actually there’s a female director, and she, like, has brought back the franchise from the woman hating side of thing.
@captainbruhbeard8950
@captainbruhbeard8950 4 жыл бұрын
@@offlinemedia1784 not sure if troll or just very stupid
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 4 жыл бұрын
Because that random fan sounds competent and knows the material, while Urine Johnson knows jack shit about it.
@joecaramello4310
@joecaramello4310 5 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy and Disney killed Star wars. Move on.
@Princess2Warrior
@Princess2Warrior 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Caramello Remember - history must be chronicled, so it is not repeated.
@Nautilus1972
@Nautilus1972 5 жыл бұрын
The Mandalorian looks AMAZING.
@Princess2Warrior
@Princess2Warrior 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nautilus1972 Real Star Wars fans are done with Disney.
@trevor4188
@trevor4188 5 жыл бұрын
Oh what is she going to do to Revan?
@juancabardo21
@juancabardo21 5 ай бұрын
“Learning the Force is a journey that takes time, skill, talent, passion, patience, and perseverance.” Rey: *nah*
@nicholascowling7052
@nicholascowling7052 Ай бұрын
Was this video the birth of our modern day Drinker? God bless you and the drink! Thanks for all the years of entertainment.
@nightshift4148
@nightshift4148 4 жыл бұрын
This trilogy has given me a newfound appreciation for the prequels, don't know about you guys.
@herheartbeats5727
@herheartbeats5727 4 жыл бұрын
Well at least the 1st Clone Wars animes, look way better...
@ThieflyChap
@ThieflyChap 3 жыл бұрын
You merely adopted the Prequels. I was born with them. Moulded by them. I didn't see an... no, no wait, actually I left school the year before Episode 1 came out... and didn't actually get to see it until the video/DVD release the next year. They are actually my favourite trilogy though, despite growing up with the originals.
@Brigada91RealBriggy
@Brigada91RealBriggy 3 жыл бұрын
about me.. I never hated the prequels in the first place. Always liked, loved and enjoyed them, especially Darth Maul. Fking great music, great battle, well written and choreographed, just a perfect piece
@ThieflyChap
@ThieflyChap 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brigada91RealBriggy Brother!
@Destino2493
@Destino2493 3 жыл бұрын
The prequels may have their flaws but there’s a good story underneath that could’ve been saved with better writing and execution, The Sequels have really no redeeming quality, they’re not fun, badly written, make no sense, you don’t give a shit about any of the characters, and the whole trilogy both disrespects and rips off the OT at the same time
@TyrDrum
@TyrDrum 5 жыл бұрын
Lucas: My starwars movies were not always the best, but at least they were starwars.
@christopherregan1654
@christopherregan1654 4 жыл бұрын
That's something at least!
@MiraSubieGirl
@MiraSubieGirl 4 жыл бұрын
They were always good. Even Ep 1 and 2. We are so sorry we ever criticised you Papa :( Prequels were fucking awesome compared to Disney monstrocities.
@CmrSchmidlap
@CmrSchmidlap 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiraSubieGirl agree. I'd say Attack of the Clones was the worst of the 6, and that is cinema gold compared to TLJ
@MiraSubieGirl
@MiraSubieGirl 4 жыл бұрын
@@CmrSchmidlap Yep! Like The Clone Wars movie does suck... I skip the romance scenes. But it was a story, it made sense... it didnt take a giant shit on beloved characters... And it had Sir Christopher Lee as Dooku... So it has its incredible moments. Not to mention my fave character, Techno/Hard Bass Union Leader.
@MiraSubieGirl
@MiraSubieGirl 4 жыл бұрын
@@CmrSchmidlap kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoiXgHx-ediKqa8
@kalaharimine
@kalaharimine 3 жыл бұрын
Only way to redeem a "Mary-Sue is simple, they must die horribly to inspire a more human hero.
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 5 ай бұрын
13:55, agreed. That was a missed opportunity of theirs
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 4 жыл бұрын
Rey's character definitely didn't grow over the years as much as the Drinker's Scottish accent!
@philipsmi-lenguyen8155
@philipsmi-lenguyen8155 3 жыл бұрын
It gets stronger the drunker he gets. Lol
@nongthip
@nongthip 2 жыл бұрын
When I started watching this video I thought WTF his accent is much more watered down and a tad less interesting, and then I saw it's from four years ago. LOL he became more charismatic and funny with age (and alcoholism is a chronic progressive condition).
@michiveritas1420
@michiveritas1420 Жыл бұрын
@@nongthip I just thought he had a cold😆
@Ivanslav1
@Ivanslav1 4 жыл бұрын
How did someone with NO TRAINING WHATSOEVER beat the best JEDI EVER?
@sexycavetroll2788
@sexycavetroll2788 4 жыл бұрын
Bad writing
@TheSoggyNiffler
@TheSoggyNiffler 4 жыл бұрын
Because MOVIE and Rian Johnson's terrible ass so called "plot"
@ajtrujillo21
@ajtrujillo21 4 жыл бұрын
The feminist answer: because she's a woman. The realistic answer: she wouldn't. She'd get her ass kicked.
@BL4KBE4R
@BL4KBE4R 4 жыл бұрын
Because the Force is Female. *duh
@politicallycorrectredskin796
@politicallycorrectredskin796 4 жыл бұрын
The power of VAGINAH!
@bizichyld
@bizichyld Жыл бұрын
Didn’t watch yet, so I’m curious to see if my opinion is shared in it. My problem with Rey was that she instantly became a master with the force. Minimal/no training, no personal growth or hardship to overcome. Even Luke seemed to have years of training and adversity to overcome before facing Vader and Yoda still didn’t think he was ready. Rey with zero experience in TFA is like “yeah imma destroy Kylo in the woods now.”
@MnMHirschiTravels
@MnMHirschiTravels 3 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite Uber skill she has is the ability to pilot a boat on a water planet when even the people that live there say it's impossible. But she does it no problem at all even though she was from a DESERT planet and had probably never even seen a boat! You go Mary Sue!
@jackdanielzx
@jackdanielzx 4 жыл бұрын
"the force is female". starwars and marvel are dead to me.
@Mortred99
@Mortred99 4 жыл бұрын
Keep that, I shall claim gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear force as male!
@jcm3732
@jcm3732 4 жыл бұрын
Dune is the new hotness. Be excited!
@JackFrostIsHere
@JackFrostIsHere 4 жыл бұрын
Always knew that Marvel would definitely one day go to shit. That's why I've always had much higher preference for DC universe over the Marvel douche
@enriquealexander4435
@enriquealexander4435 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Frost EWWW WHAT???
@beastvader
@beastvader 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently it's a Nike ad campaign - nothing to do with Star Wars
@mikeeone5649
@mikeeone5649 4 жыл бұрын
Ya she is magically the best Jedi and pilot with Zero training.Politics killed star wars.
@LordCaedus-bl7wi
@LordCaedus-bl7wi 4 жыл бұрын
Mikee One she is all the Jedi !!!
@mikeeone5649
@mikeeone5649 4 жыл бұрын
@@LordCaedus-bl7wi lmao she is a big fat piece of doo doo
@mikeeone5649
@mikeeone5649 4 жыл бұрын
She aint shit
@prosplays3443
@prosplays3443 4 жыл бұрын
Are you braindead. Cuz I can see 99% of everyone here has the biggest ego. Star Wars was always political. Yes it's for kids, but it references a lot of political and historic things. Like the whole Bush administration thing, or how the republic turned into the empire, kinda like how Germany turned from the Weimar Republic to Nazi Germany.
@mikeeone5649
@mikeeone5649 4 жыл бұрын
Prosplay You people are dumb.Well we can all pretend whatever we want now.Rey is pretending to be the greatest jedi lol.
@jedediahgordon4064
@jedediahgordon4064 3 жыл бұрын
It all makes more sense when you realize that Rey was the antagonist and Kylo Ren/Ben Skywalker was the protagonist.
@dillond9599
@dillond9599 3 жыл бұрын
After watching the 9th movie. It looks like they followed some of your advice. Rey lost a fight, Luke showed up as force ghost to offer mentorship, Rey used her power too much and regretted it, and the story very much treated Kylo as the main character instead of Rey
@luciesimpson6437
@luciesimpson6437 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how the strongest female character in hollywood is still from a film out of the 80's
@killallnight9831
@killallnight9831 4 жыл бұрын
Revan and that’s just one example, there’s plenty of well thought female characters from the past, think about lara croft
@deanasaurs
@deanasaurs 4 жыл бұрын
Ripely all day
@MrTonyBarzini
@MrTonyBarzini 4 жыл бұрын
T2 Sarah Conner > Ripley
@deanasaurs
@deanasaurs 4 жыл бұрын
MrTonyBarzini; hog...wash
@johnwendland7908
@johnwendland7908 4 жыл бұрын
The movie Aliens had very strong, believable female characters...Ripley and Vasquez...not this SJW crap
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