Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker | Full Spoiler Review!

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Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker | Full Spoiler Review!
Review by Dan Murrell, Joe Starr, Eric Goldman, & Danielle Radford
Produced by Ryan O’Toole
Post-Production Supervisor: Emin Bassavand

[@valor07]

Emperor: "I am all the Sith" Rey: "And I...am...Iron Man."

[@andychiu860311]

Kuya Paul Epic Voice Guy: “And I...am...Epic Voice Guy!”

[@cloudbicep]

LITERALLY my same thought, i wanted to scream it SO bad in the theater 😂

[@Redscape_]

EPIC eye roll...I can't believe they actually did that

[@valor07]

@@cloudbicep lol I whispered it to my friend at that moment. She was not amused.

[@krzysio53a]

don't forget "on your left" moment when all the ships showed up...

[@Ledpooplin55]

Homeboy on the left is me right after the movie trying to make excuses for JJ. Dan is me a couple hours later after thinking about it.

[@waterpenny6907]

Ledpooplin55 Lol homeboy is for the new whites

[@michaelmedina3291]

Ledpooplin55 same lmaoo

[@stupidusername84]

I had a feeling that this sentiment would be common among the people who loved this movie. It’s so much that it seems epic, but when it all really sinks it, it just gets more and more crappy.

[@larrykenobi5423]

stupidusername i don’t know.. when I left the theatre I gave it a 3/10 After second viewing a 4.5 - 5

[@stupidusername84]

Larry Kenobi - That does surprise me. How come?

[@plamentzvetkov5148]

If you listen closely, when Rey is reaching out to all the Jedi, you can hear Ki Adi Mundi saying "What about the droid attack on the wookies?"

[@razkable]

rey killed the senate..shes against congress.

[@iforgot87872]

Hahaha thanks for this

[@potterpotty01]

I liked Adam Driver in this movie, thought kylo's arc was the best in the trilogy, even if his redemption felt rushed to me.

[@BenBG25]

potterpotty01 same here

[@12jswilson]

I personally liked the Kylo and Rey struggle (internal and external) part of the plot and thought the rest of it was all sorts of stupid.

[@darkhawk4863]

Adam Driver is probably the best part of the new trilogy. His character goes through the most, and he very much takes us on that ride with Kylo/Ben. And, yeah, most of this movie felt rushed, for various reasons, so the pacing is not at all on him.

[@EBrown-cr1gr]

It couldve been. I saw so much potential but he was literally thrown to the side. And I love Rey but killing Ben and having Rey play the lead changes it from being the Skywalker saga. It's the Palpatine saga to be honest and that makes me really sad

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

He is the only saving grace... I commented on the non spoiler video about how there was no saving grace about this trilogy, but yes.. you mentioned Adam Driver and he is a saving grace, no question. Great actor man, great voice. And, this will not sound classy but I don't care, I have tbh Even if he looks ugly, sometimes it's uncomfortable to look at his face for more than 5 minutes... I know, it's harsh. But hell, who cares if he is ugly, the guy is talented.

[@StarnGz]

I love that Dan just impersonates every character possible. lol

[@StarnGz]

21:30 that's the best part!

[@djdjvega101]

Am I the only one who realized Ben solo didn’t have one line of dialogue after showing up on exogol at the end all the way to the point to where he died... they couldn’t think of something for him to say???

[@normalgirlcvco]

At this point I feel that's a blessing, at least JJ didn't ruin Ben Solo with dumb dialogue.

[@georgiajames5578]

Dj Vega Honestly, the dialogue was so bad, I’m almost grateful that his post-redemption scenes leaned entirely on Adam’s physical acting. He was excellent and made me wish we’d gotten Ben Solo for most of the movie. He truly had his father’s heart.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

Look at that "Solo shrug" he did when he got the saber from Rey. That was straight from his dad, straight from the forest moon of Endor! When you can pull off physical deliveries like that, you don't need pedestrian words to express yourself!

[@claras1401]

hey he said “ow” what are you talking about!!1!! 🙄

[@djdjvega101]

Bad Wolf Media even after he climbed out of the pit and saved Rey he said nothing. It was awkward and showed know emotion to the character.

[@ninjaboy360]

The healing power is literally the power anakin was looking for... now everyone has it.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

They've only shown it used by two characters that didn't die from it. The Child and Rey. Ben was wounded, but had no serious injuries, so giving up his life-energy appears to have done him in.

[@transfiguration8865]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@Arthur0ne]

Sushi Eata the healing power has been around in the games and other stuff. it’s in the Jedi fallen order.

[@ninjaboy360]

@@Arthur0ne Oh for sure its definitely been out there. But as far as the films go it's new territory. I just didn't expect it to be as powerful an ability as it is. I have that problem with this entire trilogy, I think everyone is over the top strong.

[@MarvelousMusicmmusic]

@@Arthur0ne which is new Canon

[@vesnalukic9898]

Dan talking about Chewie getting the medal is hilarious :)

[@kstepko]

Vesna Lukic Dan speaks the truth! We were all thinking it.

[@macattack423]

I love Joe’s point about passing down Carrie Fisher’s legacy to her daughter, and giving Billie Lourd a bigger part. Mark Hamill said that in the first meeting where they were pitched to return for the sequel trilogy, Carrie leaped at the opportunity and the first thing she asked was “is there a part for Billie?” When I saw Billie in TROS I was so excited that her role might be expanded upon, in honor of her mother. Sadly, not. Another missed opportunity in this trilogy.

[@carys7417]

macattack423 I was searching for a comment echoing these exact feelings. I went in thinking Billie would have an even larger part in this film, as her part was expanded upon in The Last Jedi plus the losing of Carrie. Wouldn’t have been hard to give her even a couple more lines.

[@Shalalacls]

I just wanna thank Danielle for making me feel less crazy, cause I hated this movie, but with Leia dying and Han showing up for that scene with Ben in the span of 10 minutes... I was also crying buckets.

[@redfox7497]

Yes!!! I hate this movie but that scene man..I was a mess 😭

[@leademi1387]

Leia’s send off was a beautiful ending for her. I didn’t understand Han though.

[@siddhantbanerjee3328]

I walked out numb. At least I walked out of Last Jedi conflicted, thinking about the choices, what I liked, hated. This movie I just walked out and felt...nothing. It was like the end of Game of Thrones, complete, utter apathy. Which is so saddening.

[@Swordmade]

Siddhant Banerjee I felt like that initially but a minute after I just felt angry

[@normalgirlcvco]

I felt exactly the same way. I cried for two days after tlj (tho I loved the movie), with tros I feel nothing.

[@cjstryder5441]

Exactly, I walked out feeling well that's that!

[@sarahm3304]

It honestly makes me love TLJ now because at least it tried some new things, had a coherent well-paced story and had some great Kylo and Rey stuff. This movie just depressed me. I’m honestly gutted and sad and it’s right before Christmas.

[@johnpotts8308]

Agreed. It took me writing down a list of things I liked and disliked to decide how I felt. My dislike list kept growing and my Like list didn't, so I guess I didn't like it overall.

[@pigmiwarriorentertainment274]

''I felt a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of Reylos cried out in excitement & were suddenly silenced'' - me when they kissed but then Kylo immediately died again

[@stevenconnors5799]

Pigmiwarrior Entertainment I was the biggest reylo hater and shipped Rey and Finn and that exact same thing happened to me when she stabbed him but then healed him

[@benzaiten933]

was this to troll this part of the fanbase? give them what they want but then rip it out from under their feet and gloat about it?

[@petebrennanmusic6939]

Enjoyable but disappointing. Couldn't agree more

[@ieatgremlins]

Pete Brennan Music Yewp, that’s spot on. I had fun but I was annoyed by a lot and very disappointed.

[@baaLsecundus]

@Marcus Middleton Thing is, there was nothing to clean up. TLJ is simply better than Rise of Skywalker in every way.

[@petebrennanmusic6939]

@@baaLsecundus True dat

[@rotmgpumcake]

Pete Brennan Music it was just conflicted visions feom jj and rian

[@Arobert1673]

Carla MSM I don’t think it was that disappointing. Dan’s biggest gripe by far seems to stem from Palpatine coming back in the crawl. Once he saw that, I’m not even sure he gave the film a fair shake. I think for most of the people who can’t seem to overcome that plot point, a whole movie dedicated to palpatines return would have mattered. I understand and agree with a lot of his other complaints, but but disagree with others. I think it’s very disingenuous to be one of the most watched places on line making fun of Chewie not getting a medal AND then completely take a dump on it when it was corrected. I think that moment is wonderful. Leia is definitely gripping that medal. It isn’t clear whether it was her medal or Hans but I think either do the moment justice. I don’t think it needed extra exposition (for which they may complain about). This was far from a perfect movie, but it also was not a train wreck. The visuals are absolutely stunning. The main characters of Kylo/Ben, Rey, Finn, and Poe all had solid arcs and screen time. I know they said Finn didn’t have a great arc, but he clearly shows from the opening sequence his growth in the rebellion. He then found other stormtroopers like him, became a general, and got a crazy awesome action sequence charging across a star destoryer. Seeing a land invasion on top of an inflight star destoryer was just awesome. If you can’t have fun watching that, sorry.

[@nohbuddy1]

Maz was just a pointless damn character

[@jasonjones3694]

Right and in TFA i thought they were setting her up to be like a Yoda stlye character

[@CosmicCleric]

@@jasonjones3694 She's the Yoda without Disney having to pay Lucas for using Yoda.

[@amanms1999]

They wasted lupita nyong'o in a pointless role. They did the exact same thing with benicio del Toro twice(Marvel and star wars)

[@redsands1001]

@@amanms1999 I do like the collector as a cameo

[@tomoliver2112]

90% of characters were pointless sadly.

[@lovedbylightning.1863]

Watching the trailer was more emotional then the movie

[@JohnnyNada]

True

[@NonaPrince]

So true

[@jettxjordan]

Dan was on point in this one. Im with him 110%

[@MandarinFOU]

Maybe they should have taken their time and made another movie, an episode X to built the advent of Palpatine, the struggle with dark side of Rey, the relationships... There is no rule saying SW must be a trilogy.

[@marleneg7794]

Yes.

[@El_oh7199]

I agree. They could have just done two movies and called it Rise of Skywalker pt 1 and pt 2

[@knightinashes6934]

Or at least a Star Wars story movie that sets stuff up for rise of Skywalker

[@lindsaym.h.3583]

I do think Last Jedi and the Rey/Kylo interactions in that one laid the groundwork as well as any previous movies for the possibility that our hero was going to go to the Dark Side. I do think it's pretty clear that Palpatine was not the plan from the jump, and the story was served less well for it.

[@aarongutierrez7705]

MandarinFOU no, thematically TLJ made this a really difficult task and that’s why it suffered pacing issues

[@k1ngk4gl3]

The fact that Rey was nobody was my favorite part of TLJ & the retcon will always bug me about this film.

[@fattony3736]

Honestly it barely changes the movie if Rey is not a palpatine. Her being an extremely gifted force user is enough to suffice palpatine's interest in her.

[@bartandaelus359]

Y issue with it was that I saw her character as becoming a more neutral force in the... force... I though her role would be to create balance and become a more avatar type character.

[@k1ngk4gl3]

@@fattony3736 This. 100%

[@leademi1387]

I liked that too in tlj. I thought it would have been a great twist that an ordinary girl would end up being the hope would be a nod to how anakin was originally.

[@LoganBluth]

@Amged Fraik Why did you hate that? I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm honestly interested to hear your take. My LEAST favourite part of the Star Wars universe has always been all the "special bloodlines" stuff because I don't like the idea that certain people are just "born special" and everyone else is just a supporting character for the chosen few. I loved the idea that Rey came from literal human garbage, and yet is just randomly crazy strong in the force. It just seemed more fair and balanced to me, and I know that the world definitely is NOT a fair place, but that's why I like my stories to champion the idea that anyone can be special, not just those with the right parents. Haha

[@garrettcarter5622]

"Random strong Jedi never bothered me" [Entire Internet enters the chat]

[@kendalldrury8156]

They didn't even get to her calling herself a Skywalker in the end.

[@ruxi2327]

I would have listened to one more hour of them going into this, Kylo Ren -> Ben solo transformation and the ending to the character and if it fit and everything else

[@Mahendra-bj6vy]

And also forgot about how the fuck Rey got and wielding yellow or golden lightsaber

[@leelewis8749]

God I hated that part.

[@chrismurphy9932]

Which was awful. The whole point of this film is you aren't who your parents/bloodline indicates you should be. Then she goes and calls herself a Skywalker anyway, undercutting the whole message. Which is this film in a nutshell, pointless.

[@93soby]

Maybe she thought the kiss meant they got married so she took his last name 😂 LOL JK

[@daviddarm8384]

Dan is spot-on! That kiss scene was Abrams' Jeb Bush moment of "please clap"

[@DK-210]

If Joe is in a spoiler review, shouldn’t he be dancing for the duration?

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

Nah, that's for spoiler segments. This one has spoiler in the title. That poor little Joe gets tired!

[@leelewis8749]

He is to sad to dance.

[@GameChronicles]

Janna IS Lando's daughter. There was a bunch of stuff cut where Lando tells about his daughter who was captured by First Order. They cut that from story which made it super creepy at the end like he was hitting on her romantically vs father-daughter.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

Until it appears in a canonical source, that's all what "might have been," not "what is." You can't declare that she IS his daughter because it was that way in a cut scene. EMPIRE has stuff cut from the script where Luke led a bunch of wampas into the base to harass the Imperials. But it didn't happen on screen, so it's not "real."

[@Akazainul]

That's a cool story point, but I didn't see the end conversation as creepy to be honest.

[@Cbricklyne]

It's creepy either way. Imagine seeing that scene as a black person (which I am). "Oh look! There's another black person. Let me go ask them if they're my daddy and where they're from"

[@MariaVosa]

Was that what that was!? I was just - WTF IS HAPPENING?

[@Fenrir767]

If you read last shot the love of Lando’s life is a Twi’lek and they are together after Ben is born

[@draxell001]

This was great to watch. Some similar thoughts to my own. One of my problems with these films has been that for some reason they've made them fit in an 24 hour period. This is why everything is rushed. Last Jedi they only had what 16 hours of fuel, in this its a similar time for the fleet to come online. Your story can last more than a day, why are they limiting themselves?? Nothing gets the time it should, nothing gets explained, nobody gets a decent arc, so nothing ties together properly.

[@andrewj1754]

Yeah, I saw there was one mention of ‘8 hours left’ and I was like - 8 hours for what? Huh? Whats the rush here? I would have been fine if they didnt do that and could have had a night time campfire chat with the new ex storm troopers and then rey disappeared in the morning. I always find JJ puts crazy time pressure when its not needed. The time pressure Last Jedi is a whole other thing.... It also wasn’t clear how all those random star destroyers above those planets at the end were destroyed.

[@dark0zim]

Alternative tittle: The rise of the Fan-service

[@MarkaNgamer]

So what?

[@kellishere]

They deadass had Ben Solo pull a Princess Yue and I’ve never laughed harder

[@clarkbryant8222]

kellishere Lmaooooo

[@ubernerd83]

That's rough, buddy.

[@NG-hx9si]

Because Yue is the only character to ever give her life for another...

[@FallOutWookie]

kellishere Ben Solo pulled a Prince Zuko AND a Princess Yue all in one film. Also the “evading” fighting style he did with Rey gave me major Aang vibes. JJ must be a closet fan.

[@CounterfittXIII]

A lot of modern Japanese influence. A lot of space fight editing felt like Gundam or many modern anime. The reveal of the destroyer fleet could have been in Kill La Kill. In this context, the snoaks feel like Evangelion. Even the reveal of Palps feels more like a modern trash isekai than an the old pulpy Buck Rodgers which I'd expect to be a defense of his treatment.

[@Ren_Davis0531]

The Force has always been for everybody. Rian Johnson didn’t invent that. The first six films just happened to be about the Skywalkers. I don’t think fans need a protagonist with a special bloodline. I think the only reason people wanted Rey to be from a special bloodline was because Abrams kept her history so vague with hints. Her parents never needed to be a mystery. It doesn’t add to the story at all and paints the filmmakers in a very counterproductive corner. Abrams just can’t stop doing his mystery box and that’s part of what hurt this trilogy.

[@redsands1001]

Yeah. He never intended to be a part of the trilogy after. Alias, lost, star wars. Set up his mysteries without answers and walk away

[@rosharma7443]

Very well said.

[@Ren_Davis0531]

Dream Shake Junya Rey doesn’t need to be a Skywalker for the Skywalkers to play a huge part in the story. All you really need to do is have a stronger bond between Luke and Rey as master and padawan. And I don’t think Fast and Furious is a good example since that is nowhere near as expansive as the Star Wars universe.

[@ninjatribble7961]

Begun The Fan Wars have...

[@darthdrezz9237]

perfect response sir!

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

Those started in 2017

[@Panthror]

36:17 Joe is absolutely right, I recently saw an interview with Mark Hamill, where he talks about how him and Carrie were asked for this new trilogy. According to him, Carrie said 'yes' immediately and then asked: Do you have a part for Billie in it?

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

I guess they thought with Boyega they'd covered the quota.

[@ericturczynowsky3243]

@@nicolasferreiro4492 She meant Carrie's daughter Billie not Billy Dee Williams

[@clockpenalty]

@@ericturczynowsky3243 why did you correct him? Someone concerned about "quotas" deserves to stew in their hatred

[@ericturczynowsky3243]

@@clockpenalty I dunno, pointing out stupidity and/or ignorance is kinda fun

[@brad6740]

Let this sink in... Movie is called Rise of Skywalker. All the Skywalkers died or were killed. A Palpatine won in the end.

[@Zingy16]

IMAGINE at the end of the film they reveal that Rey had been scheming to wipe out the Skywalker line the whole time and replace them with Palpatines

[@King_NL]

The whole message was about choosing your own identity and not being bound by bloodlines. Rey calls herself Skywalker at the end. I thought it was a pretty powerful moment in an otherwise flawed movie.

[@vinnyb3978]

Ben Solo rised from the dark side and he's part Skywalker. Luke rised from the dead lol

[@benaiahkue14]

It would have worked if they kept Kylo Ren alive he would have started a family of skywalkers with Rey. That was the ending I wanted but did not get.

[@King_NL]

@@benaiahkue14 Kylo Ren was a genocidal mass murderer. His first act was to murder all the children and adults in the new Jedi academy, then he destroyed multiple planets. His sacrifice was the only reasonable way to somewhat redeem himself. Him being alive and Rey marrying him would be very questionable, morally.

[@Dave_L913]

17:50 Dan's comments about Chris Terrio are spot on. Talk about failing upwards.

[@NG-hx9si]

Dave Lyon Chris Terrio has an Oscar for Argo. It's like people conveniently forget this. And honestly, movies like this are "written" by way more people than are credited.

[@galshalev2931]

Am I the only one who wanted to see Hayden christensen in this film?? Anyone?? 🤔

[@danielrowson3379]

Gal Shalev I would have been down for that.

[@thebortthe]

I was aching for it. But alas, it never was.

[@mohammadrezashoari4510]

Me too.

[@iknoukno6250]

It's best he wasn't. They would have blamed him for the 'terrible' film (I enjoyed the film).

[@stevenconnors5799]

Woulda still been better than reylo 😭

[@harryburganjr.969]

There were no clear themes in the movie and the script was forced like an overproduced song. Such a waste of interesting potential.

[@NG-hx9si]

If you think there were no clear themes, then you weren't looking hard enough.

[@harryburganjr.969]

Digital Bean Maybe so, I might have to rewatch the movie.

[@harryburganjr.969]

Digital Bean What were they? I mean I’m not trying to be condescending or anything, I just genuinely want to know if I missed some major thematic elements.

[@evanpb]

It was all about identity fam. That's why she called herself a Skywalker at the end. Like Luke says, "Some things are thicker than blood." It's not about the family she was born into, it's not about the Galaxy's "plan" for her. It's about what she CHOSE. The family she CHOSE to be a part of.

[@ibrahimaballer23]

The movie is so stuffed with plot that it doesn’t have time to explore its themes. The theme of identity is said but not conveyed.

[@joshuacolvin8988]

When all the Jedi spoke to Rey, we should of heard “Now this is pod racing”

[@carys7417]

Joshua Colvin not gonna lie, if it were in the voice of phantom menace Anakin then that would be really adorable, even if it didn’t really make sense given the circumstances

[@marleneg7794]

Baby yoda can unite us all.

[@vinnyb3978]

How does he use the force without training!! Whoops we love baby Yoda so it's ok

[@Stad122]

@@vinnyb3978 A: because Yoda's species has a background of being incredibly strong in the force, as well as possibly aging slower, so that baby could be 50 years old. B: because his strength in the force is not all encompassing, and acts as a cause of a lot of the conflict, not a blank slate for the writers to have the force do whatever they want to solve the problem with minimal effort.

[@matiasklecha1060]

Crazy how this movie's plot leaked months before, Bad Robot has to change something since the same thing went down with TFA

[@heiro7572]

You mean like with Mass Effect 3 ending being rewritten at the last minute because of leaks for that? (spoilers: it did not go well for that third entry in an epic sci-fi trilogy fan reception-wise)

[@Vincent.E.M.Thorn.Author]

@@heiro7572 I think he meant that something within the company has to change because the leaks keep happening.

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

You sound like a Disney exec who wants to see Bad Robot burn after the negative reviews lol

[@Bruinsbigestbear]

@@heiro7572 Mass Effect 3 was rewritten because they were pressed for time.

[@alexwong7324]

All the force powers in the Galaxy yet Rey doesn't attempt to pull them out of quicksand.

[@Fourtgru123]

The Force is nothing compared to the power of the plot

[@RyanToxopeus]

That was my first thought when I saw everyone go under. "No problem. Rey will just lift everyone out."

[@potterpotty01]

she didn't have time to get her hand up and look pensive!, anyone else watch the scene with the transport and think X men Dark pheonix? a lot of hand work and staring!

[@HariKrishnan-ec5mn]

Sand had higher ground..

[@bnjmnwst]

Seems consistent to me. In every new situation in which she finds herself, she must either get beaten back at first and then summon her strength and overcome, or she has to first discover, for herself, that perhaps the Force might be applicable, and then reach out and get it and use it. One of those has happened in every situation in which she's found herself. Yes or no?

[@mcla9212]

I thought Fins secret was that he was in love with Rey. Hence why he tried to tell her when he thought they were dying in that sinking pit

[@mj7087]

it was that he's force sensitive. kind of a lame "we're about to die" secret screenrant.com/star-wars-rise-skywalker-jj-abrams-reveals-finn-secret/

[@Arobert1673]

Mitchell Claxton I definitely agree. It’s why I think he was embarrassed when Poe was there. It seems pretty in line for his character. Like when his first line in TLJ is where’s Rey.

[@snipegrzywa]

That's the point... Initially its meant to make it look like he wants to declare his love for her, but really that he is force sensitive

[@clockpenalty]

I don't think there's any doubt that he was going to tell her he's in love with her. "I'm force sensitive!!!" Is not something you yell as you're about to be suffocated to death. The fact that Rey is in love with Ben instead has no bearing on Finn's feelings.

[@Arobert1673]

snipegrzywa what gave you that indication? Did something change or happen between the first and second times it’s brought up?

[@drewmur]

Before Anakin became Darth Vader, there were thousands of Jedi and a couple of Sith. Afterwards there were two Sith and a handful of Jedi. Seems like balance.

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

This is not D&D.

[@CosmicCleric]

@@nicolasferreiro4492 but it is balance.

[@mccallosone4903]

i always thought that too

[@drewmur]

@@nicolasferreiro4492 What does D & D have to do with what I said?

[@chriscambron4711]

Correct. Balance != an advantage for the jedi/light side

[@PhoenixRaces]

When they kissed, I immediately said, “Poor Finn” lol

[@alibird7924]

Honestly, they should of had Finn just be with Rose, or Poe, or that horse woman (I don’t remember her name) instead of chasing Rey the whole time. Like, Finn, she’s just not that into you. Give it up.

[@FC3692230]

Spanish pun intended???

[@PhoenixRaces]

Ali* Bird nah, never liked that idea and felt forced.

[@alibird7924]

What felt forced?

[@PhoenixRaces]

@@alibird7924 Finn and Rose

[@stockicide]

Big ups to Joe for giving the world "Empress Galpatine."

[@shackatk]

32:00 also "I am all of the sith...and I (am Iron Man) am all of the Jedi" Literally exact timing

[@user-po1rs6nw9w]

can you guys bring back Jenny Nicolson please??

[@_jolie_]

nah

[@danielrowson3379]

Seconded. I loved all the JN stuff in the lead up to TLJ.

[@siriusgray]

No thanks. She lives in theme parks which I don’t consider to be a real job

[@user-po1rs6nw9w]

@@tgh2048 Not really.Dan, Joe are following her on twitter..

[@user-po1rs6nw9w]

@@tgh2048 what did she say

[@stagewalker]

I’m a little surprised this theory wasn’t postulated, but I strongly suspect that J.J. originally planned to have Leah do what Luke did and force project herself to Ben, and that is what kills her. Interacting with a memory was one of the better moments of the film, but even it felt a bit off to me, like it was a compromise.

[@martinmp19]

Definitely would've been a great moment for Leia

[@TheFavoringWind]

Dan is a national treasure

[@DGeekWill]

is it weird my biggest leap of logic issue with the movie is the fact that the X-Wing shouldn't have been able to fly sitting in the flippin water for X number of years? lol

[@minakokic602]

This movie was exhausting and kinda fun. It never gives you a second to breathe (it felt like Leia dying, Han showing up, and Kylo turning good all happened in a span of 2 minutes) and I hated the Rey Palpatine thing because Rey being a no one was my favourite part of TLJ.

[@lovedbylightning.1863]

Mina Kokic that’s cause it did take place over two minutes

[@dice268926]

Did anyone else want Gray Jedi & Rey training or moving on with the name by training "Skywalker's"????🤷‍♂️.. Better movie rite there!

[@bmwilsonify]

YES!!!

[@atharvavadeyar5157]

Hellz ye

[@leilam-k9569]

Yep. I could have taken Ben growing into doing that, but yep, that was the hope.

[@roguechevelle]

Yes! After TLJ it did have me wanting Rey to become a grey jedi. I actually like your idea of calling them Skywalker's that would have been another option for the name to live on other then Rey taking the last name.

[@jonathanm332]

Gray Jedi make zero sense.

[@blakeayliffe8952]

Luke's hair in this made him look like a washed up cross between Santa and Jesus.

[@siriusgray]

A Slice of Pie WTF was going on with his hair in this movie? It really took me out of the moment especially since his hair was normal in TLJ.

[@jaym8988]

I was trying to figure out why his hair was blowing in the wind.

[@Gavin48]

Rey's mum was the chick from Killing Eve. That's the only thing I got from this movie

[@redsands1001]

More Jodie comer in things!

[@LumiNiceOne]

I think that Finn wanted to tell Rey that he loves her, or that he's in love with her. I don't think it had anything to do with the Force.

[@devonbiehn6249]

Yup. Telling her he is force sensitive isn't risky to say and wouldn't of put it off three or four times

[@carys7417]

Totally agree, I think JJ is just backtracking and came up with the force sensitive thing in the face of critiques

[@eddmaster9]

That's exactly what it was. Nothing else would have make sense

[@kstepko]

It really made me angry - especially after Finn and Rose seemed like a potential couple in the previous film.

[@carlgionet5414]

Star wars is about the big picture not the individual movies and when you see it you also see that the new triology doesn't have it's place in Star wars. Star wars ended at ROTJ

[@onlyMistaZ]

They had no big picture plan when making this new trilogy

[@MarkaNgamer]

People said exactly same thing when prequels were coming out. So I disagree.

[@onlyMistaZ]

@@MarkaNgamer prequels in a sense played into the bigger picture of Anakin being the chosen one

[@kendowlingkdj1]

Dan Murell rants are what I live for lol.

[@timjackson4387]

This is the problem with JJ’s mystery boxes. He set up a bunch of stuff in TFA, left no specific path or answers and handed it over to Ryan Johnson. Ryan made the best movie he could but the fan back lash was crazy so TROS was a course correction and they just gave in and decided to give the fans what they wanted. The mystery boxes are always cool until you have to open them. A great example: Lost.

[@NG-hx9si]

I'm sorry, but that's not true. It's well documented that JJ wrote an outline for the trilogy and Kathleen Kennedy allowed Rian to discard it.

[@hayleylately3059]

@@NG-hx9si but what if the outline, like the main criticisms with BOTH of Abrams films with this, was super derivative to the point that it was unoriginal and uninteresting. Should a director have to follow decisions they don't agree with at the determent of the story being told to the audience?

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

@@hayleylately3059 If Kathleen Kennedy - the final arbiter of these things when it comes to STAR WARS right now - says that the director has to follow that outline, then the answer is yes. Just like they said in this video (Dan said it, I believe), if you don't think you can play in the sandbox, then don't take the job. If Kennedy had told Johnson "Here's what we need you to do," and Johnson thought, as you say, it was unoriginal and uninteresting, if Kennedy then said "Tough, that's what's we're doing. Get on board or there's the door," then he can leave the project. But Kennedy let both him and Abrams do their own things, and it shows.

[@timjackson4387]

Digital Bean oh dang. I didn’t know that. But still though JJ’s boxes still work better unopened. He’s never been good at answers. Only questions.

[@lomi6]

THANK YOU for noticing things ripped of Endgame. I have been fighting that fight alone....

[@ericmicke4130]

I've never seen a Star Wars movie that I didn't want to walk right back in and see again until today.

[@danielrowson3379]

Eric Micke Sadly I agree. Even attack of the clones (a film that is kinda terrible) made me want to see it again.

[@FallOutWookie]

I don’t envy J.J. for having to deliver a franchise ending so soon after Endgame.

[@alazkaalazka6087]

FallOutWookiee and Game of Thrones

[@shazzakip2]

Why? They're independent of each other. No other franchise had an effect on the quality of this movie

[@eddmaster9]

Nevermind Endgame, I dont envy him having to deliver a final episode after The Last Jedi

[@georgiajames5578]

Ben Solo should have been the one to carry on the Skywalker legacy. Dying after being redeemed is so cheap to me. I would’ve like for him to be kept alive to atone and serve the galaxy. As a ronin or fully embracing his identity as Anakin Skywalker’s grandson, reshaping that burden into something good. Rey going to Tatooine felt so out-of-universe.

[@Medievalannie]

Dan rant at 47:36 You're welcome.

[@ValentineLissar]

Annie lv well deserved though and makes sense

[@kstepko]

Annie lv Here’s YOUR medal! Thank you for your fan service!🏅

[@StarScream0722]

Hot take: The prequels work better as a narrative than the new triliogy

[@thefilmeffect6089]

That's not really a hot take. The narrative wasn't the problem with the prequels.

[@eileen_a_b]

Prequel problems: bad dialogue, bad acting (and I like these actors in other movies), TOO MUCH CGI, the introduction of midichlorians, and a lot of racist stereotypes Lucas either didn't realize or he thought people wouldn't catch on to. But yes, they fit the narrative.

[@d.o.r.a.e.r.i]

"You had Poe and Finn! Right there." Dan how big was the check Oscar Issac cut you 😭 nevertheless. I agree.

[@starhunter9085]

*"G" word people are 28X likelier to contract certain Es-T-Ds and are 6X likelier to commit suicide due to their men-tall issues so it is very dangerous.*

[@SatchithHarve]

Omg, Dan's rant about Chewie's medal hahaha

[@EpicFurious]

Dan is a smart dude, but I really feel like he missed the whole point of Maz giving Chewie the medal. It wasn't a joke. It wasn't a cute wink. It was Maz realizing that with the passing of Leia, Chewie has completely lost his family. Giving him Han's medal (which Leia had been lovingly keeping) would help him in mourning. It's an incredibly touching scene and I am glad JJ put it in there.

[@atharvavadeyar5157]

I get what you're saying, but the fact that it was the medal and not literally anything else, means that it was all of what you just said...and also a wink at the audience

[@MrWhiteVzla]

@@atharvavadeyar5157 This entire movie is a wink at the audience. I disliked TLJ, and after this movie, I wished Jonson wrote this one too. At least it would have some consistency in its poor scriptwriting. That said, based on Rotten Tomatoes user reviews, people loved it. And if it makes over a billion, in the eyes of Disney it was a success.

[@atharvavadeyar5157]

@@MrWhiteVzla I agree with that, man (Personally I love what TLJ was about thematically and what it did with Luke, Rey and Kylo) At the very least Rian should've outlined where he'd like to have gone and how what he set up and did in TLJ work towards that (and if he did, Disney should've held JJ to it)

[@atharvavadeyar5157]

@@MrWhiteVzla Disney will keep chugging these out until one of these don't make enough money (like Solo)

[@MrWhiteVzla]

@@atharvavadeyar5157 I do agree with you about the overall theme of TLJ. When talking to another commenter, I said that I did like the concept of TLJ. However, I disliked the way it was implemented, which is why I don't like the movie. But I thought the idea of stop trying to recreate the past was great. It was my main complain with TFA, it felt like ANH but in 4k. And yeah, Disney will milk this franchise dry before moving on.

[@eisenaechery7591]

Dan Murrell's Maz Kanata rant: the thing we didn't know we needed....

[@Burentsu]

Rey was the result of Palpatine's Order 69 which was to have a line of succession to gain his force powers.

[@MisBabbles]

Hilariously named order 69... famously won't result in children 😆

[@_jolie_]

I don't watch Star Wars but I love listening to you guys talk so much that I'm here

[@CrimsonCharan]

Save yourself the trouble and stay as far away as you humanly can from this franchise. It's not that great and only brings misery and pain to those exposed to it.

[@juanjaramillo96]

You ever run a marathon that you thought you prepped for two years in the making? That's this movie.

[@nohbuddy1]

Facts

[@Angelo_Productions]

The whole movie could’ve been avoided if Kylo did what he sent himself out to do which was kill the Emperor!

[@andreacb7595]

The only tear I cried was when I saw Chewies reaction to Leia dying, for the rest of it I could not have cared less, which is incredibly disheartening.

[@robynpilles3263]

Somebody needs to talk about about how this movie is just JJ Abrams show Alias. The team finds an artifact to lead to something else that leads to something else. There’s quite a bit of overlap...

[@Creech786]

Robyn Pilles That kept going through my head as I was watching the movie.

[@subarashii2374]

"HEY BOO YOU UP?"

[@MarvelManMike82]

I appreciate the heck out of my adopted Screen Junkies family. Happy holidays!!!

[@dmfuerte]

Rise of Skywalker was Disney's Justice League. Feige again proves he is the only one who can handle franchise story telling. Seriously MCU is the only survivor of the many attempts Hollywood has made.

[@telectronix1368]

Bringing stories picked from decades and decades of established and fleshed out stories is veeeerrrrry different from writing new/contuing SW films.

[@CosmicCleric]

@@telectronix1368 Allot of expanded universe story content to pull from, though.

[@telectronix1368]

@@CosmicCleric Nothing in the other SW media covered the events in these films, they wrote the plots for the films whereas the MCU uses stories that have alreadu been written and completed. It's a better comparison to think of the MCU as an adaption-for-film rather than being new plots.

[@lindsaym.h.3583]

Possible hot take, but I think if Rian Johnson had been given a Star Wars trilogy that was not about an existing character, he could have made some interesting choices and charted an interesting story. I also think if any of the details in here had been agreed upon before TLJ was written, it would have made more sense. I don't believe JJ knew he wanted Palpatine to have anything to do with the plot, and I believe if he did, Rian would have been told and it would have at least been seeded.

[@Gemnist98]

I feel the critics will label it as such (our last movie was hated by people, so let's give it the finger with this one!), while the fans will call it Disney's Godzilla King of the Monsters (who cares if it's a good movie as long as it gives me STAR WARS STUFF!).

[@nohbuddy1]

The performances were all great and it looked great but the story wasn't there. It felt so rushed, almost a "let's get it over with" feel. Carrie Fisher also dying really hurt the story to the point I feel like they should have just began the movie with Leia's funeral

[@maureec]

LOL Dan's "outrage" (please note the inverted commas) over fan service as exemplified by Chewy being given the medal Leia was holding was SUCH a crack up🤣Dude you are AWESOME. In my head I'm seeing JJ attired like Russell Crowe ala Gladiator. He's standing in an amphitheater while the "critics" (again please note the inverted commas) bay for his blood, and shouts angrily "Are you not entertained!?!"😎👌No blood on the floor please people ✌😌

[@Cbricklyne]

C-3PO : "R2-D2's memory is notoriously unreliable" Yeah,..... So "unreliable" that this ENTIRE saga begins with Princess Leia literally smuggling the plans of the first Death Star in R2's "unreliable" memory to get to Obi-Wan in A New Hope. Like,.......literally the FIRST scene in this entire saga. This movie was written by idiots who apparently have never watched any of the previous (6) movies.

[@MrEylios]

So that joke flew over your head.

[@Cbricklyne]

@@MrEylios Was it a joke? Oh wait you mean the whole movie? Yeah, it flew over my head. It was so stupid it flew over my entire head. And I laugh at people like you who think otherwise. A stupid move for stupid people.

[@Swordmade]

I never thought that anything could kill my excitement for Star Wars but RoS really did it, I’ve never walked out of a movie before feeling angry but this did it

[@andersonmbarboza1108]

Sorry, nothing to do with your actual comment, but, man, these acronyms are getting really confusing... now we have RotJ, RotS and tRoS -- they should really diversify more these titles!

[@achukid]

The medal rant is one of my favorite things. Makes that scene and this movie worth it

[@DrSpaceCapeTV]

The Jeb Bush "Please clap" moment 🤣😂🤣

[@MarvelousMusicmmusic]

That Adam Driver impression was spot on 😂

[@pandycious]

Joe Starr is a handsome man. That's it, that's the comment.

[@thereisnocarolinHR]

Finally some KZbinrs who actually liked things about the movie. It wasn’t perfect I agree but it really wasn’t that bad. My biggest complaint is Ben dying. Especially seeing as jj got random balls to go through with reylo and then cliche kills Ben which is exactly what Palpatine wanted so that was dumb.

[@ButcherofRagol]

Joe! My boy coming in here and dropping Ronin Warriors deep-cuts, god I loved that twist. Speaking of not utilizing a great character, come on! You could've had Anubis around so much longer as a good guy! Myeh...

[@delbertwinters6791]

You guys are always reading my mind hahah, loved this review!

[@1stKindChris]

Joe Starr with a F'N Ronin Warriors reference from out of nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@1stKindChris]

@Teddy Holiday lol my fault

[@johnlong8952]

Not enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@chadwcmichael]

Remember when all three prequels were edited into one movie? I’d love to see, bare with me now.... each trilogy, edited down to one movie, so we could take three trilogies, to make one trilogy. Edit the original 3 into 1 And the sequel 3 into 1 And make the whole damn thing, one trilogy

[@FallOutWookie]

chadwcmichael When did that prequel edit happen? And is it something I can illegally watch online lol I gotta see that

[@chadwcmichael]

FallOutWookiee Search KZbin for “Topher Grace Prequels”. Yea. That kid from That 70’s Show? Damn good editor.

[@potterpotty01]

most people when you talk about these trilogies talk about how rushed they feel, the romance between ani and padme went from creepy stalker to i've always loved you in ten minutes! the siblings luke and leia were making out one minute, then its i know, ive always known. now its emperor is back, i made snoke, it was me all along and your my grandaughter, and you want to make these movies SHORTER!!!!

[@chadwcmichael]

potterpotty01 Yup. Hit the beats that matter. A good story is a good story. The reason things feel rushed, is because the best bits are hidden between the filler.

[@ReapTheWhirlwind]

I love that Joe watched Ronin Warriors! 😂 Also, I mentally compare Star Wars to anime too.

[@ValentineLissar]

I’m sorry I laughed when the crawl said, “the dead talk!” That’s just so lazy.

[@mapaz1501]

19:30 asking the important questions here! and this is the kind of stuff that makes me love these people!! Love and appreciate all your pov.

[@billfallgravity568]

Enjoy your well deserved breaks! Unwind and reflect on a terrific year of content you produced! Happy holidays fandom!

[@bmwilsonify]

Dan Murrell ily. What they did with Broom Kid was brilliant. And making it about Palpatines and Skywalkers handcuffed the incredible potential it had

[@chrismurphy9932]

Dan is the absolute best, I love his rants.

[@johnpotts8308]

JJ's plots are normally cleaner than that? He sets up his puzzle boxes but normally walks away (Alias, Lost) before actually answering any of them.

[@redsands1001]

Fricking Alias. And he intended to do the same with this trilogy.

[@TonyBlues]

I've decided. It's official... Dan is my spirit animal. 🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@katiesmindpalace]

i enjoyed the movie but i do agree there were some plot problems

[@SwipeDrako]

Same katie

[@LegowarriorYTAdventure1234]

Thats where I am rn

[@tomoliver2112]

A ton of plot problems when you take the other movies into consideration /:

[@thegreyinitiate3680]

So just incase anyone was wondering and didn’t already know, this “ominous message of revenge” from Palpatine that was the catalyst for the events of the movie, that we did not get to hear in said movie, could be heard in it’s entirety during the Star Wars event in Fortnite....... There are clips on KZbin if you want to hear it.....I think that tells you everything you need to know about the quality of this movie.

[@Travis7060312]

Finn's secret was Rey's parentage.

[@kstepko]

Literally EVERYONE knew about it. 🙄

[@erickd8a]

Did no one mention that the big explanation for the Emperor is left to a god damn FORTNITE thing

[@Mieknara]

Thank you for saying it. I was half expecting Lando to say "On your left". Endgame simply took all these ending storylines and did them well.

[@Mal3ficarum]

Joe calling it like the Grimlock fans know it to be.