Star Wars - A Critique Of The Sequels

[@DXFromYT]

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[@Felix-sb5wp]

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[@jonah.mcminn]

Perfect timing :) Amazing video! Subbed 👍

[@samlerf]

I would recommend Rick Worley's expanded youtube essay "How to watch Star Wars". But you could also read his -online-text version "The Force Awakens vs. The Prequels, or: So this is how personal expression dies, to thunderous applause". Most of the expanded universe's comics and novels isn't worth it, especially since most of it was written without Lucas being invested or onvolved. For example: Boba Fett had an entire backstory novel series prior to attack of the clones. Very different. There are, however, very few books that Lucas was actually involved with and that therefor count. The movie-novelizations, sure. But not only them: Involvement "Darth Plagueis" "Shatterpoint" "Labyrinth of Evil"

[@marluxia8832]

DX, could you please make a critical review of Eureka Seven anime?

[@summerarrasmith]

2 words....Alternate Universe

[@SchaffrillasProductions]

While watching this video, I actually completely forgot that Palpatine made Snoke and kept thinking "Yeah, it is really weird how they never explained where Snoke came from." Cool that such a heinously terrible movie could also be so forgettable.

[@krisgersch8480]

Hello Schaff

[@joeyjerry1586]

Cause rise of skywalker was so rushed. There was so much happening in that movie that none of it got time to breathe. Last Jedi may be shit but at least it gave its storylines to breathe so I remember most of it.

[@d7c388]

Wow you took me by surprise

[@_Bakers_dozen_-ee8yf]

Yeah, the rise of skywalker is laughably bad.

[@TheMikesShow1]

That was his mistake

[@TheElectricCheeseProductions22]

Palpatine somehow returning is something I would have written when I was 7

[@woda9291]

Even my 8 year old sister thought it was stupid

[@That_Guy00]

Bringing Palpatine back isn't a bad idea by itself, but the execution was really bad.

[@TheElectricCheeseProductions22]

@@That_Guy00 tell me how that can be executed well.

[@That_Guy00]

@@TheElectricCheeseProductions22 Dark Empire did it well enough, his return and having an army/ships is explained, it is in character and doesn't break established lore, Luke needs help to defeat him even after improving 6 years post ROTJ, etc,. My biggest issue with it is that Luke temporarily falls to the dark side in his attempt to sabotage Palpatine's plans from the inside. A small part of it was adapted here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHzKpHWDbaatgKM

[@decoyaardvark2828]

Well this same event happened in everyone's beloved Expanded Universe in the Dark Empire story. The Emperor is literally cloned.

[@terragthegreat175]

These movies could have been about ANYTHING. That's what gets me. They could have literally done anything with these movies and THIS is what they chose to go with.

[@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE]

I mean it’s Disney for fuck’s sake. Of course they’re gonna go with the safest, least offensive approach because they’re making these movies for everyone, it’s all about making the most money.

[@TWD77710]

Imagine the story being the Yushaang Vong attacking the galaxy and Luke's new jedi order. Ben solo and Luke's daughter are training, but after Han and Leia's deaths to the Vong, Ben goes to the dark side. Then they unite after inner struggle and defeat the Vong. This would be refreshing since there is a new villain, but keeps the whole balance of the force thing going on and new characters related to the OG's

@@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE Who did say it was the safest way? You are repeating a rethoric which was first coined by shill media.

[@RaikenXion]

Yep its really quite pathetic, and tbh this is ultimately what JJ. Abrams was shit-scared of making the Sequels about ANYTHING, i.e. something DIFFERENT. There could have still be lightsabers, space ships and weird looking aliens, and it still would have felt like Star Wars if they just gave us a interesting and "original" story with compelling characters.

[@RaikenXion]

@@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE And yet ironically, by them making it ever so "SAFE", and trying to make them for "EVERYONE" i.e. "Mainstream Audiences". They ultimately made most people dislike them. Because fans want to be taken to new places and be immersed in a new and exciting story that expands the Saga. In the end fans went from being underwhelmed to angry and hugely disappointed, to eventually simply not even caring and all the hype and excitement dissipating. Mainstream Audiences are conditioned to like anything that basically has loud noises and action, some violence, sex and comedy. But mainstream audiences do also greatly pick up on something that generates alot of hype, positive feeling and excitement. When they hear on the news or internet that hundreds of fans are flocking to see the latest movie in a franchise, and they're all camping out and stuff; its things like that which attract mainstream audiences to kind of jump on the bandwagon, maybe not necessarily camp out too, but they want to be a part of that hype and huge excitement surrounding that movie. This is why its always important to get the Fans hooked and excited first and foremost, because if the fanbase is excited and really happy, its gonna generate that huge buzz and will draw in the mainstream audience.

[@KevyNova]

I’ll never get over the fact that they had Mark, Carrie, Harrison, Billy Dee, Anthony and the whole cast available and willing and THIS is what they came up with.

[@pole8740]

@Santi 97 the film is made to sell toys, nothing else

[@aaronadams9831]

@Santi 97 is it? I mean there are multiple dismemberments in the saga and actual war crimes

[@narufan987]

It was literally a once in a lifetime opportunity and they completely fumbled it, all of their characters got destroyed in their own way & THERE WAS NEVER A SCENE WITH THEM TOGETHER, and now there never will

[@jraelien5798]

Yep

[@krugerofcause9048]

@Santi-uh2il If it’s made for 12-year-old kids, why is the majority of these movies pure nostalgia-bait for the adults in the audience?

[@tykekai3555]

It's both an insult and a meme that Rey buries Anakin's lightsaber in SAND.

[@MrDeothor]

@023 Studios and Jawas turn out to be orange-skinned butthole-for-eyes knock off immortal yodas that have lots of stories... for another time

[@RaikenXion]

Whats also a insult is of all the New and Original planets and worlds the Sequels could have taken us too, we got 2 Desert planets, TWO! How boring.

[@good__person]

Anakin: I don't like sand Rey: Understandable. *Literally buried them in sand*

[@bridgerhibbert2993]

Yeah. The same sand where he buried his mother...🤷‍♂️

[@WeWereOnline]

@@bridgerhibbert2993 they should have buried it on naboo next to padme obviously.

[@purplehaze2358]

You have to appreciate how Palp’s force lightning is so strong that it either annihilated or disabled hundreds or even thousands of ships simultaneously, but Rei could deflect it with two lightsabers.

[@jesusleyva4386]

Palpatine is so powerful yet he's hiding from his own First Order.

[@campkira]

cgi team went mad...

[@XieRH1988]

you know what's even better than deflecting it with 2 lightsabers? Deflecting it with only 1. Mace Windu. Revenge of the Sith.

[@purplehaze2358]

@@XieRH1988 Difference is the lightning couldn’t destroy or immobilize an entire fleet.

[@VladDascaliuc]

@@XieRH1988 Completely different context. One is an anti-unit taser while the other is a fucking anti-army lightning storm.

[@darkwoods1954]

My main problem is how it undermines everything from the original movies, just so they can repeat it all again. The Empire didn't fall, just re-branded. The Jedi didn't return. The rebels just carried on being rebels living on forest moons. Han went back to being a smuggler. Even Palpatine didn't die! The original movies and characters now accomplished nothing! Just so a lazy disney could repeat the same story rather than evolve the universe and have to be imaginative and creative.

[@victuz]

Yeah, if the sequels kept the struggles of the past in the past, it would probably have a better image today.

[@stevej71393]

Yes, that is my biggest beef with the Sequels. The Prequels, lame as they were, did not mess with the Original Trilogy.

[@boombirdking2118]

Steve J The prequels were smart, they decided to make the conflict unique. The Jedi are in power with the republic and the Sith work to take control. Instead of a small rebellion working to fight a massive empire, a clone army fights a droid army across the entire galaxy. In fact, the prequels have the entire war under the influence of Palpatine, playing both sides to grow his power and continue his plans of forming the Galactic Empire.

[@linkthepig4219]

@@stevej71393 Weeeeell... the prequels did a little bit, but they were PREQUELS. They came before, you could just ignore them.

[@DemonicRemption]

@Dark Woods I feel this was in part because Kennedy and Co. tried to appease the minority of prequel haters. Think about it, the sentiment largely echoed by these fans were:"We hate the PT and love the OT," for roughly a decade after Revenge Of The Sith was released. And even though I'm a casual who hasn't seen the OT in its entirety, IDK who TF was like:"Yeah Han and Leia should have split up," or "yeah Episode VI should be undone."

[@spongebobfan190]

1:05:46 It's worth mentioning that Leia had a traumatic moment on Tatooine too: She was taken hostage and used as sex slave by a crime lord who just so happened to be a large slimy slug (not that it would've been any less traumatizing if Jabba were human, but a sex slave for a slug is quite disturbing). And you could mention that the sabers were buried near the same house where Luke found the charred remains of his aunt and uncle. Nothing good ever came out of the Skywalker family when they were on Tatooine, and the writers of the sequels clearly missed all of that. But if you were to talk about every inconsistency with the writing of this trilogy, this video would be another hour or two.

[@deathstrike]

I wholeheartedly argee with you!! Also, Tatooine is where Anakin Skywalker fell even further to the dark side when his mother was tortured and killed by Tusken Raiders. He killed an entire village including women and children. Tatooine was a lawless, crime ridden wasteland of a planet. So when the writers decided to let Rey bury the lightsabers near Luke's adopted family's house, it was a cringe moment because of ALL the terrible things the Skywalkers endured and caused. If this was going to be the case, why didn't Rey just use the force and fly to Dagobah? It has more symbolic meaning and it was where Yoda literally revived the Jedi Order when Luke became his Padawan.

[@spongebobfan190]

@@deathstrike My blind assumption about the last statement is that the writers wanted Tatooine to have the distinction as the only planet to appear across all trilogies, as it was the most recurring across both the originals and the prequels, with Empire being the only film in which it doesn't make an appearance in, and was only mentioned once by Luke at the end of the film. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong here, but Tatooine was also the only planet that appeared in both trilogies before the Disney buyout, when you exclude the Revenge of the Sith deleted scene where Yoda travels to Dagobah to begin his exile. In short, Tatooine's appearance in The Rise of Skywalker was just the writers lazily forcing it into the trilogy. Lazily because they disregarded the nature of what Tatooine is like you said: a lawless, crime ridden wasteland of a planet, (and they ignored all the bad things that happened to the Skywalkers on that planet, and the harm Anakin caused himself) yet they wanted it in the movie somehow. Even though the trilogy already had two other desert planets that are really no different from Tatooine down to similar geologies. At least Geonosis tried to look different from Tatooine.

[@dresdenwarlock7978]

I'll always maintain that Rey should have taken all of the Skywalkers sabers to Padmes tomb on Naboo. That way mother, father, son, and daughter, would all be together (at least symbolically)... But no. Had to be the Lars homestead. Ffs.

[@jmurray1110]

Even worse if you think about why shmi was even kept alive that long

[@samkornrumph8545]

@@spongebobfan190 Naboo and Coruscant appear at the end of ROTJ.

[@robjohnson3747]

“While visually stunning it has little impact” The sequels in a nutshell

[@Red88Rex]

Yep. The sequels look and sound like Star Wars, but they lack the heart and soul.

[@idenhan8837]

@@Red88Rex agreed

[@WalterUnglaub]

Precisely, the very definition of "style over substance". I can't think of a better example than Disney's corporate, modular, postmodern dumpster fire of a "sequel" trilogy.

[@treasurecave431]

When u have a budget of 250million, thats a given

[@randomdude189]

Pretty women are sequels apparently lol

[@randyjax09]

It still blows my mind that they had no underlying story arc planned for the billion dollar sequel trilogy. The people in charge at Disney & Lucasfilm aren’t just negligent, they are grossly incompetent.

[@peterjohnson1379]

5-10 billion

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

You cant expect to madlib a multi billion dollar franchise with no direction of a new trilogy after the last film in the last trilogy in 2005 gave a nice sendoff and expect the same results.

[@beneil2]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral what you say remind me of halo.

[@MilnerBenedictIII]

I THINK YOU ARE GROSSLY NEGLIGENT AND INCOMPETANT!!!!!!!! RANDY MANDY!

[@jl.4563]

Abraham's had a full arch of the trilogy. The problem is when Abraham's schedule was busy with making other films before and while the Last Jedi was being produced and filmed. He gave Rian Johnson a brief description and plot points that needed to be explained and shown in the second film. Rian Johnson didn't like what was given and wanted to make a film that felt like his own instead of a Hamby down and started to write the script before the Force Awakens was ever finished and never even watched the Force Awakens. That's why there are so many incoherent plot holes and loose ties in the Last Jedi that doesn't follow through from The Force Awakens. If Disney would have been more patient and let Abraham's actually direct and write the Second film of the trilogy I think we would of gotten alot better sequel trilogy than we got and fuller and better arch of each character including Ray. The Rise of Skywalker was essentially two films in one. You are seeing what Abraham's had planned all along for the second film and the un expected rewriting of snoke death as well and fill in a gap to try to explain things best he could with limited resources and time.

[@spinachgreens7179]

We will never get Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, or Carrie Fisher in a Star Wars film again. Good job Disney

[@MrJedi-gi1ed]

They didn't put them together for even a single scene for the entire sequel trilogy. It was insulting.

[@AE_Sunset-Nutrix_AE]

@@MrJedi-gi1ed Alright what did you want from the Sequel-Trilogy? Fanservice? Or an actually good story? Yeah, i know it's sad that we didn't get all three of them on screen together again. But it's not their trilogy anymore. They've had their time to shine. Han and Leia reunite. Luke and Leia reunite. And those scenes are great. But Han dies in The Force Awakens which is important torwards Kylo's development. And since Luke was gone it was just never possible to have a complete reunion. It also sends the message that not everyone gets to say goodbye. And while that sucks it's part of life. Imagine if Luke came back and they all had a scene together again. Then what would have happened in the other movies? Luke would be back just like that and there would be no satisfying resolution to the problems raised in The Force Awakens. Everything and everyone would be exactly the same as we left th in the Original Trilogy with no character development. A lot of people critizise the sequels attacking small details within the movies without looking at the overall picture. Yeah, I know a reunion would have been amazing. But then the to films in the series would have been f*cked. If you have to manipulate your story that much in order for some fanservice then you fail at storytelling. There was enough time in the Originals for Luke and Leia and Han to shine and they even had individual moments to shine in the sequels but focusing on them too much wouldn't have done anything new or interesting for Star Wars.

[@MrJedi-gi1ed]

​@@AE_Sunset-Nutrix_AE Just to be clear, you are actually saying there was no way possible to have the three main characters from the original trilogy in even a single scene together and also have a good story? That is the absurdity you are pushing? Everything you just said was wrong. You keep saying a reunion in the movies would have ruined the story of the movies and that is an extremely flawed argument. The overall story was only arranged in a manner that made a reunion difficult *because* they did not want all three on screen at once. You say that to have those three characters on screen at once would have made for a bad story, even though that has absolutely nothing to do with story telling and the last trilogy is far from a master class on story telling itself. It was an intentional choice to not allow all three on screen at once because they would overshadow the new characters, but they could have just as easily had a story that did not involve Luke in self imposed exile and did not have Han be a deadbeat dad and did not have Leia be rejected from a galactic government that she surely helped to build and also not overshadow the new, terribly written characters and give the old characters a good sendoff. They also could have had a story with anywhere near a believable antagonist, one that did not involve the same exact tropes multiple times, one that did not contradict itself so often not just from movie to movie but from scene to scene, all that stupid crap that is lazy, terrible story telling. There were HUNDREDS of loose threads and nonsensical side plots to nowhere that can be completely cut and not change the still awful story at all! "Palpatine has returned somehow" is literally all that is said about how they pulled this character from the grave, and that is the best that they could think of, the writers themselves could not conceive of any amount of BS to even come close to explaining it so they just shrug and move past it. And you say I fail at story telling lol I am not saying the movies should have been about those three, just that it would have been nice to have the three main characters of the original trilogy on screen one last time. Fan service? Yeah. So what? Who gives a f**K? All movies should be about serving the fans at least to some degree, yes? That's what gets them fans. Why would anyone adore a movie that intentionally makes meta nonsensical story choices purely to intentionally slight the people that want to like it? It is a literal insult to us just because we liked the movies that came before it. That is the epitome of terrible story telling and bad movie making. And they did it for an entire trilogy.

[@RaikenXion]

@@AE_Sunset-Nutrix_AE Why should seeing those 3 characters on screen even be thought of as "Fan-service"!?!? Its referred to as "THE SEQUEL TRILOGY", it is a story continuing on from the past. In order for us to embrace and get behind the new characters, it was imperative for us to be given a full understanding of what occurred in the past with the previous main characters. beginning A scene like this could have even been used in place of the Han-Ghost, showing Kylo just standing their, having that fond memory of his mother, father and uncle together, and him remembering kind of redeems him and brings him back to the light. But we didnt even get that!! Even the OT honors the past in that brief scene showing the old gang of heroes from the Prequels, when Luke leans on the tree, looking on at the Force Ghosts of Anakin, Yoda and Obi Wan and its awesome! You feel this togetherness, the past generation and the new heroes of that time. But the Sequels didnt even do this, not once!! Showing our past heroes of the OT era together, it just feels like a complete dissjoint, it feels jarring like alienating even, not seeing them all together in just one scene. The Sequels made so many flaws and mistakes but this is the biggest of all, and its one main reason why i think we'll never be able to look on at the Sequels differently over time. The way inwhich the Sequels were executed has forever alienated and segregated themselves from the other two trilogies and the Saga in general.

[@AE_Sunset-Nutrix_AE]

@@MrJedi-gi1ed "Just to be clear, you are actually saying there was no way possible to have the three main characters from the original trilogy in even a single scene together and also have a good story?"- *I am saying that it wouldn't be anything new or interesting for the story if the writers focused on them too much. When should this scene have happened in the Sequel Trilogy? Let's say Disney decided to remake the Trilogy (and Carrie Fisher was still alive) to have a scene between Han, Luke and Leia. When? Directly in the beginning? Them just fighting a new threat? Wouldn't that be boring and pointless? Shouldn't a story be about more than just fighting an evil being? Shouldn't it also be about character development, people growing on each other? Or the three of them are seperated and each of the movies was about finding another one of them, just to have a reunion at the end? Or if they met and hugged each other then said goodbye and walked away forever? They still would have had a single scene together. A follow-up-story of the OT can be bad with a reunion of them and can be good without a reunion of them.* "That is the absurdity you are pushing?"- *No, I am not pushing an absurdity, I am pushing a point I view as valid and reasoned.* "Everything you just said was wrong."- *Ironic, you are using a quote from a movie you dislike to counter someone defending and liking the movie. And I will respond with: Incorrect. Everything YOU just said was wrong.* "You keep saying a reunion in the movies would have ruined the story of the movies and that is an extremely flawed argument." *No. You are very much mistaken in this matter. The only one here who has flawed arguments is you. * "The overall story was only arranged in a manner that made a reunion difficult because they did not want all three on screen at once."- *Thanks for proving my point. The story was arranged in a manner that made it difficult for the three characters Han, Luke and Leia (or five if you count Chewie and Lando) to have a reunion so it would have damaged the storys organic if it was so strongly manipulated just to have a reunion between Han, Luke and Leia just for the sake of having a reunion between Han, Luke and Leia.* "You say that to have those three characters on screen at once would have made for a bad story,"- *Considering the circumstances of the story being told here, a reunion especially in the first movie absolutely would have been counter-productive* "even though that has absolutely nothing to do with story telling"- *Uhhh... Ýes of course it has something to do with the storytelling, it has a lot to do with the storytelling, the characters are the heart of any story.* "and the last trilogy is far from a master class on story telling itself."- *Maybe not but too me those movies definetely aren't horrible pieces of shit either.* "It was an intentional choice to not allow all three on screen at once"- *Of course. Pretty much anything that happens in a movie is intentional.* "because they would overshadow the new characters,"- *I think the same would count for Obi Wan, Anakin and Yoda overshadowing Han, Luke and Leia in the Original Trilogy if the Prequel Trilogy was released to the public first.* "but they could have just as easily had a story that did not involve Luke in self imposed exile and did not have Han be a deadbeat dad and did not have Leia be rejected from a galactic government that she surely helped to build"- *Can you give me some other concepts for an alternative Sequel-Trilogy instead of just 'not the way it is now' Luke was not a Gary Stue, and the loss of children can lead to marriages falling apart. Han's death was important torwarda Kylo's development and Leia was rejected from the government because people thought she was threatening it, what lead them to not wanting to take her warnings about the first order seriously. Even more when it was confirmed she was the daughter of Darth Vader and that was the point were no one in the Senat wanted to support in public anymore.* "and also not overshadow the new, terribly written characters"- *I won't call them that way.* "and give the old characters a good sendoff."- *Not everyone get's a proper sendoff. Isn't one of the reasons Empie strikes Back is viewed as the best star wars movie because the chracters lose, a dark movie, just like the war where you don't win all the time? I actually didn't like Empire strikes Back at all for a long time because I found it boring and viewed it as a middle finger to A New Hope (not anymore).* ""Palpatine has returned somehow" is literally all that is said about how they pulled this character from the grave, and that is the best that they could think of, the writers themselves could not conceive of any amount of BS to even come close to explaining it so they just shrug and move past it."- *For me it's just more mystical to leave some things in the dark.* "And you say I fail at story telling lol"- *I didn't mean specifically YOU. I was trying to say that if a person has to manipulate his or her story that much in order for some fanservice then this person fails at storytelling.* "I am not saying the movies should have been about those three,"- *Which they weren't.* "just that it would have been nice to have the three main characters of the original trilogy on screen one last time."- *WHEN?! TELL ME WHEN AND HOW?! Directly in the beginning? Them just fighting a new threat? Wouldn't that be boring and pointless? Shouldn't a story be about more than just fighting an evil being? Shouldn't it also be about character development, people growing on each other? Or the three of them are seperated and each of the movies was about finding another one of them, just to have a reunion at the end? Or if they met and hugged each other then said goodbye and walked away forever? They still would have had a single scene together. A follow-up-story of the OT can be bad with a reunion of them and can be good without a reunion of them.* "Fan service? Yeah. So what? Who gives a f**K?"- *One should give a f**k if the fanservice is done at the expense of the story.* "All movies should be about serving the fans at least to some degree, yes?"- *Yes to some degree is a good thing to to remember.* "That's what gets them fans."- *I see that* Why would anyone adore a movie that intentionally makes meta nonsensical story choices purely to intentionally slight the people that want to like it? It is a literal insult to us just because we liked the movies that came before it.- *That statement as not true. You are just feeling insulted,I say it's not the movies theat you feel this way. It's not like the sequels give the fans the opposite of what they wanted because The Force Awakens was a familiar feeling in comparison to the old Star Wars and people hated it for being too similar but then The last Jedi was completely different and provided new perspectives on the Star Wars we knew before and fans hated it because it didn't feel like Star Wars. No matter what the Sequels became, the fans hated them. It was impossible to please a large part of the fanbase from the start as people view the original films as so holy. This trilogy was doomed from the beginning but it wasn't Disney's fault. It was the fans.* "That is the epitome of terrible story telling and bad movie making. And they did it for an entire trilogy."- *Let me show you comment from Dave Lee Down Under's video "Star Wars fans keep killing Star Wars:* Star Wars fan irony: "The prequels suck because they are different!" "The Force Awakens sucks because it is too similar!" "The Last Jedi has both callbacks and new material but still sucks!" "Rey sucks because she is perfect!" "Luke Skywalker is ruined because he is an imperfection!" (When talking about Kylo Ren face-value) “Kylo Ren sucks because he's like Darth Vader!" (When not talking about Kylo Ren face-value) "Kylo Ren sucks because he's nothing like Darth Vader!" "Han Solo in TFA sucks because he's the same person from ANH!" "Luke Skywalker in TLJ sucks because he's not the same person from the OT!" "Killing off Snoke was the stupidest idea ever! No backstory explained and he is an all knowing powerful being and yet he dies JUST LIKE THAT?!?!?! :(" But if they saved his death for IX..... "This movie is a rip-off of ROTJ!" "I hate Snoke because he's a Palpatine knock-off!" "I hate Rose because she's an original character!" "TFA sucks because it was predictable!" "TLJ sucks because it was unpredictable!" "You're not a true fan if you dislike the prequels!" "You're not a true fan if you like the sequels!" "The prequels are not Star Wars because George Lucas doesn't know how to direct" "The sequels are not Star Wars because they are not George Lucas' creations!" “The Last Jedi sucks because Mark Hamill initially said so!” “Who cares if Alex Guinness never liked the OT? That has nothing to do why it’s great!” “The Force Awakens sucked because they recycled the same vehicles from the OT!” “Rian Johnson’s new idea for WW2 inspired bombers in The Last Jedi sucked!” The irony burns hardcore.....

[@Luke101]

This is without a doubt the best sequel critique I’ve ever watched. In just over an hour you touched on nearly every issue with each film in this trilogy and even brought up things I had never even thought of or heard before which is so hard to do since these movies have been dissected to exhaustion. Well done, dude

[@johannesgrote270]

I totally agree. But if you are interested there is another critique that goes in a slightly different direction while also drawing similar conclusions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqWko36XrNOKhKs

[@ori.g4mi]

MauLer?

[@lookingforsomething]

Yeah, especially Force Awakens seem to get so much unnecessary slack. I just don't understand. The intro text pretty much destroys the whole continuity from before. The story is a mess.

[@nickm8874]

@@ori.g4mi yes. It’s good but it’s not mauler levels. I agree with you

[@ericchung3177]

"It's not about spaceships." -George Lucas

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

It's about JJ Binks. He is the key.

[@SleepyDroid]

"IT's AbOut SPaCeShIpS" - Disney

[@viscountrainbows6452]

The lightsabers, blasters, spaceships and robots are all just window dressing for the journey. It all can be done the same with swords, horses and elves. Such is Fantasy

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

@@viscountrainbows6452 Nah it's all about getting the droids and finding various stuff, lifting rocks etc. I haven't seen these movies though but I've heard enough to know there is no journey and no real story to be told in there.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

@@MoonwalkerWorshiper sounds like a terrible video game. So accurate, I guess. Except I wish I were playing Smash instead.

[@Horrormaster13]

*The Star Wars Original Trilogy:* When you have a vision, but barely the resources and leeway to bring it to life. *The Star Wars Prequel Trilogy:* When you have a vision, but too much leeway and resources to do what you want. *The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy:* When you have no vision, no plan, but unlimited resources, and decide to play mad libs with it.

[@davea3641]

True

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

The Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy: When you finally have the resources to realise your true vision,...which ends up destroying the masterpieces which made you successful enough to finally destroy them. The Star Wars Prequel Trilogy: When you turn your back on those who made you rich and famous in order to try and make new fans. The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy: When you try to win fans back after the prequel debacle. Then you try to do something fans aren't expecting. Then you try to placate to those fans who couldn't handle the story not going the way their head canon said it should.

[@jonah_da_mann]

It's interesting. The prequels struggled mainly because George Lucas is good at CREATING stories, but not the best at TELLING them (e.g. giving the actors good direction, writing believable dialogue, avoiding plot holes, etc.). The sequels, conversely, struggled because the people behind them can TELL stories, but have absolutely no idea how to CREATE good ones.

[@phaolo6]

@Horrormaster13 The Original Trilogy had _"barely the resources"_ ? O_o It costed millions of dollars, it's not like it was some indie project..

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

@@phaolo6 It had resources, they just weren't "George's" resources, so he had to listen to other people's ideas.

[@Jayfett123]

When I heard Rey say "I'm Rey Skywalker" I was not only baffled about how stupid these movies could be, but I also thought, in the theater why criticize these movies when they just criticize themselves

[@donaldcake1]

Had she accepted who she was it would have at least shown a tiny bit of growth over the sequels

[@Jayfett123]

@@donaldcake1 exactly

[@advancedstupidity5459]

I shouted, "No you're not!" At Rey in the theater at the premiere when she said that. It was just a knee-jerk reaction. Then the movie ended and it was very depressing.

[@Jayfett123]

@@advancedstupidity5459 I would rather have George Lucas's original vision

[@advancedstupidity5459]

@@Jayfett123 I agree 100%

[@ctchulk]

The people that say, "oh people didn't like the prequels when they first came out, just wait a few years and everyone will come around" fail to understand ALL OF THIS

[@stickyfingers4217]

I'm agree

[@adamjanek3511]

people still don't like the prequels wtf you talking about

[@ctchulk]

@@adamjanek3511 okay guy

[@stickyfingers4217]

@@adamjanek3511 they are more loved and are better made than the sequels, it is a fact

[@shawerful5209]

Prequels was Never bad they are just different, people are used to action and adventure in the original trilogy, so when the prequels came out, showing more dialogue and worldbuilding people hated it

[@jasonpapai73]

The lightsaber calling to Rey was something that the producers consistently told us would be explained and make sense. In true JJ Abrams form, nothing is explained or makes sense.

[@jasonpapai73]

@023 Studios A question for a-never time

[@tris421]

lightsabres don't "call to' anyone. I hated this scene the moment i saw it and having just gotten over that space octopus thing this was the point the disappointment started to kick in.

[@shadowmyth123]

Yet Hollywood just keeps giving him more franchises to ruin.

[@tris421]

@You tube oh yea 3 2 hour films they hardly had time to explain anything

[@joshuafernandes6684]

And the drama of the carachteres still garbage...

[@DarthEvilicus]

Remember folks: Harrison Ford only did TFA if they killed him off. JJ knew he would never be in another Star Wars. It was his decision to never reunite Han Luke and Leia. He is responsible for the biggest missed opportunity in cinematic history

[@mischaaravena150]

No, he agreed to the one film and in that one film you could have reunited the three.

[@DarthEvilicus]

That’s my point exactly...

[@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE]

JJ is such a hack.

[@martinjrgensen8234]

Missed opportunity aside to reunite the 3, Han Solos death would also have been much more heartbreaking if they hadn’t made the choice to break up Leia and Han, and make Han a deadbeat dad.

[@jimbob1862]

@@martinjrgensen8234 Also not to mention not even having Luke react to his death, instead leaving it on the fucking cutting room floor as deleted scene for the home release

[@MetalSandman999]

54:27 - Obi-Wan Kenobi not healing Qui-Gon Jinn is a small problem about Force healing compared to the far bigger one: The whole reason Anakin turned to the dark side was out of fear that Padme would die - fear that was made all that more extreme due to the death of his mother. If Force healing were a thing, why didn't Anakin, a highly powerful Force user even in Attack of the Clones, just use that? The whole would have been overthrown.

[@logicaldude3611]

The problem with the whole thing is that apparently Anakin Skywalker, the most powerful Jedi ever, doesn't have the ability to Force Heal but some girl who barely trained does. Along with some guy who was on the dark side for years and years.

[@toddkurzbard]

And another thing: If a Jedi can force heal someone, why does anybody need bacta? Just call in a Jedi and everything will be a-O.K..

[@inkoalawetrust]

@@toddkurzbard That's not really a plot hole. Even if it is a given that the Jedi can force heal people. It still wouldn't be possible to have a select few tens of thousands of Jedi be able to heal anyone from a whole galaxy with untold trillions of people.

[@Ryu-qg8tg]

@@toddkurzbard for the way that the jedi abilities are presented in the new canon (the high republic, the mandalorian and the book of boba fett) i say that not every jedi can do everything. In the high republic each jedi has his own "power" if they are special. Granted, jedi like Yoda or Anakin had to have the ability of force heal bc of his power level. So that's something, but not every jedi has the same powers

[@vukmilosavljevic7516]

But you see he didn't run the training course making it impossible

[@noxanneballadynasowacka6125]

*"What TFA didn't understand is these traits made him [Kylo] a fundamentally different character than Vader, when we were introduced to him, yet Kylo still occupies the same role."* What a criminally good observation. Well done.

[@DXFromYT]

Thank you!

[@mja2317]

These filmmakers had over 300 books and other pieces of media to cherry pick the best bits from. Fans would have wept with joy if they got to see the Thrawn Trilogy, the Yuuzhan Vong, Jacen and Jaina Solo, Luke and Mara Jade Skywalker as benevolent Jedi Masters who ran a school with Kyle Katarn, Darth Caedus and Darth Revan etc. You could have taken any one or two of these ideas and refined it into a hell of a great trilogy. The biggest mistake Lucasfilm made was declaring the Expanded Universe non-canon. All the material was there for them.

[@Zelix678]

But according to Kathleen "Cancer" Kennedy: "There was no more source material." Such bullshit. Even if the comics were declared non-canon, this was the perfect opportunity to make ideas in them part of canon in forms of new stories. But that would have been a good idea and we cannot have that; for our priority is turn Star Wars into a platform for gender/personal agenda/politics.

[@jesusleyva4386]

The Disney sequels are what happens when 2 directors who hate each others' ideas are given the task of running a trilogy

[@Zelix678]

@@jesusleyva4386 compounded with utter lack of vision or plan for the said trilogy

[@solidbeard8324]

Also Disney has to blamed for this mess. They wanted a modern SW but it rely too much on the OT premise (and most of the characters) without being unique or standing on his own and also rejecting completely Lucas ideas.

[@campkira]

greed...

[@hashimirasama]

"Let the sequels die!" "Retcon them if you have to." Word!!!

[@Felix-sb5wp]

lol

[@resolute7177]

plz

[@darthtrip7188]

The Sequels aren't going to be retconned or decanonized. The Sequels are canon and will remain canon.

[@grayski3324]

@@darthtrip7188 Then we continue to live in a dark time for star wars

[@darthtrip7188]

@@grayski3324 No, Star Wars is in pretty good shape. They're staying away from Sequel Era content. They got The Mandalorian which is killing it. They got The Book of Boba Fett which has started slow but should pick up. They got the Obi Wan show and Ahsoka show that should be pretty big hits. Then they have the Andor show which my sneak up on and surprise people. Eventually I think they will need to get into Sequel Era content again but it needs to be improved on and they need to do Sequel Era characters justice and not half ass it. They need to stop trying to fix this or fix that in comic books and unintentionally making things worse.

[@masamune2984]

“Somehow Palpatine has returned” sounds like a writer’s temporary placeholder note in an early pass of the rough draft script, except they forgot to replace it with the actual final line of dialogue in the finished film.

[@crapwithanopinion2919]

as a very amateur writer that is LITERALLY something I do all the time while I'm writing lmao. With how rushed these movies are I would not be surprised if that was a placeholder.

[@TheZamaron]

I don't have a problem that Palpatine returned, I think it's fine. The problem comes from how they handled it, barely explained how he returned, didn't explain where he learned it. And Rey is the one to kill Palpatine for good. Dark Empire did this better by having it explained how his power works. DE Palpatine actually was a major threat to the Galaxy by unleashing his forces and causing a full on war. Rey killing him ruins Vader's sacrifice, but in DE Luke finishes Palpatine off with the help of a Jedi Master sacrificing himself to pull Palpatine into the afterlife for good. Thus Vader's sacrifice is still meaningful for DE as it allowed Luke to survive to stop Palpatine.

[@OneRedKraken]

THE DEAD SPEAK!

[@briansview2886]

I guess you don't understand character narrative then. Let me give you some real world examples SOMEHOW MY CAT GOT OUT SOMEHOW MY MISSING UNCLE RETURNED SOMEHOW MY WALLET TURNED UP SOMEHOW BIDEN GOT ELECTED SOMEHOW I WOKE UP WITH A WELT ON MY ARM SOMEHOW I DIDN'T DIE IN THAT ACCIDENT SOMEHOW PEOPLE DON'T GET WHY POE SAYS THAT Etc etc etc That is, actually, how REAL people react when something unexplainable happens that they don't understand. THAT is the CHARACTER making a rational comment about a mystery. The movie itself provided all the internal narrative necessary to understand how and why he returned, without just TELLING YOU with character exposition. There's literally nothing wrong with the character's comment, only with people not getting it.

[@lakshaykochhar6799]

@@briansview2886 "Dark science, cloning, secrets only the Sith knew" "Dark side is pathway to many abilities some consider to be unatural" Yeah, totally not exposition and only told through internal narrative.

[@reeceshugrue6167]

I wish Finn had been the main character. He had an interesting backstory and even was a little relatable. Seeing him evolve from a mentally-scarred ex-stormtrooper to a Jedi Knight throughout the three films would've been awesome, like Luke evolving from his Uncle's helping hand to a Jedi Knight.

[@Jiub_SN]

It should've focused on Kylo IMO, it is after all the Skywalker saga. Having Kylo be redeemed and the main character throughout would've been far more interesting and would've "rhymed" with the prequels, tho in reverse

[@nickm8874]

He’s a terrible shouty comedic actor though. I know we aren’t allowed to say it, but I don’t see that depth in John Boyega tbh

[@sonic-bb]

@@nickm8874 what? have you seen his other movies??? he's not a comedic actor lmao

[@IAPancham9]

@@nickm8874no that’s what they turned him into and wrote him as, it was stupid from the get go…no ex soldier scarred by war is going to be laughing smiling or generally acting like he was at all

[@Flopdoodle]

Just play the Jedi Knight games. Kyle Katarn already did the "Storm Trooper to Jedi" leap.

[@krazo4Christ]

I love that the community keeps pumping out these analytical critiques that deconstruct and reject the Disney Star Wars trilogy on every level. Hours and hours of content that is much more enjoyable than the trash movies that spawned it. Keep it up, fam 👊🏻❤

[@ZiplineShazam]

AMEN

[@dereksendrak]

Absolutely!!

[@Trollificusv2]

Yep. I remember, after _Last Jedi_ , when I realized I had watched content multiples of hours greater than the length of the movie, and enjoyed it much, much more. (after MauLer and anti-trekker)

[@errorinn8834]

When I get an itch to watch the sequels ( which is rare ) I often prefer these reviews over the actual movie. 😅

[@karenwang313]

I think you missed the point on why the sequels were made. Its not to make entertaining films, or to tell a good story or anything like that. Its to print money.

[@Walamonga1313]

Where's your profile picture from?

[@Vigriff]

It's not to print money, that's the ST's distant secondary goal. It's true goal is to be KKK's propaganda machine and to desecrate the legacy George Lucas left behind.

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

Well to be fair Lucas focused on selling an absurd amount of merchandise with the OT, and then even more with the prequels

[@katakesh8566]

But they broke the money printing machine And to counter on that "George so merch too" argument. Well yeah, as is his right. And it was his invention. If he didn't make money from the first one there's now Episode 5. Also, no one forced their hands. They made investments into what they liked. The issue now is no one wants to buy anything now. Financially Disney is in the red with Star Wars. The fact that the most appreciated parts of the franchise are the TV shows. That shouldn't be the case under Disney. They had the whole cast and crew and did nothing.

[@markcobuzzi826]

That “We’re in the money!” song gag from the Red Letter Media reviews has only become more fitting now.

[@spaceteapot]

Everyone criticizes Rian Johnson, but Abrams' films feel truly soulless; some authentic mass market garbage.

[@comicsans1689]

This, I don't know why people gave Abrams a pass. If anything, I appreciate Rian Johnson for exposing how much of a hack Abrams actually is by derailing his carbon copy of the OT.

[@TheOriginalPoon]

The foundation was fundamentally flawed. The series was fucked from the get go with Jeffrey Jacob.

[@aamirrazak3467]

Agreed, i could not fathom the hype people had for episode 7. It was an inferior, more boring corporately sanitized and soulless rehash of episode 4

[@terrylandess6072]

What? People don't like Marvel's Star Wars?

[@MinuteLeech2]

@@comicsans1689 30 years after ROTJ we're still fighting a large Empire with Palpatine at the top, trying redeem another evil Skywalker #2, with a small rebellion with no Jedi. Han is still a smuggler, and there's another desert planet hero who turns out to be the offspring of a sith lord. WTF is the point of the originals? All that is on JJ Abrams. He made the originals pointless because he was so creatively bankrupt he couldn't come up with a new story.

[@ridensroom6957]

I've said it before, Luke's exile and shame would work perfectly with a surviving Mace Windu. Everything he fought for was effectively all a lie. He would be the character to write that story for, not Luke.

[@hannahkillian689]

Ooooh they could've had TFA be Luke discovering Mace is still alive and so he goes to find him and bring him back to the new Jedi Order. Granted he'd be around 100 years old...I think...

[@ridensroom6957]

@@hannahkillian689 that would be so cool.

[@DoctorCyan]

That would be totally wicked if this story didn’t take place 50 years after Mace’s original death. He was probably at least in his late 30’s in RotS, it’s possible but we need a decent reason to bring him back other than fan-service

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

@@hannahkillian689 Given the fact Windu is last seen on screen falling to his supposed death, could you picture a believable scenario of him surviving that fall?

[@RawBread1173]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral "Somehow, Mace returned" hahahaha

[@GreatBeardofWisdom]

*Rian Jonson* "Snoke doesn't look intimidating enough. I want him to look scarier". *Also Rian Jonson* "Let's kill Snoke off in the second film!"

[@SpencerCJ]

To be fair snoke was insanely dull, Kylo makes for a much more compelling villian

[@GreatBeardofWisdom]

@@SpencerCJ Can you really call him a villain though? He starts off as one but ends up on the good side. That leaves us with Palpatine; who they had to bring back simply because there was no villain for the conclusion to the trilogy. It was just such a mess. I never thought I'd say this, but the prequels really don't seem that bad in hindsight.

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

@@SpencerCJ When he destroyed his mask (thus ridding himself of his Vader man crush) yes. When he put it back on, he went back to being lame. Then he took it off again and was kinda cool again. Then he turned good,...and back to lameness he went. Such a mess indeed. :(

[@SpencerCJ]

@@GreatBeardofWisdom He is for 7 and 8, 9 I don't even count as a film it's so insane

[@SpencerCJ]

@@lookingforwookiecopilot Why did JJ write him remaking the mask? Its such a cool scene when he smashes it to peices

[@WestMichiganTransformers]

26:38 "Luke, in this film, is nothing but a mouthpiece for a commentary that doesn't fully understand what it's critiquing."

[@samuelstephens6904]

That would only make sense if the movie intended us to agree with Luke. But it clearly doesn’t. If anything, Yoda is the thematic mouthpiece of TLJ. “We are what they grow beyond.”

[@SophiaTranslate]

Luke is just one big walking-talking Out-of-Character Moment in this goddamned movie honestly...

[@treasurecave431]

@@samuelstephens6904 TLJ is total garbage. So are the sequels

[@samuelstephens6904]

@@treasurecave431 You do you.

[@treasurecave431]

@@samuelstephens6904 yup

[@SlashManEXE]

Never considered that the First Order didn't feel legitimate because they had unlimited resources. The Death Star was the culmination of 19 years of Empire supremacy, only becoming fully operational at the last minute. The rehashed Death Star 2 from Return of the Jedi was one of the weaker points of the film, but that concept only got worse for The Force Awakens. And on top of that, while the First Order trumps the Empire's abilities, then Palpatine's army trumps the First Order. When the stakes become so unrealistically unbalanced, it just loses all believability. Trying to do everything bigger and better than the original trilogy removes a lot of the relatable human elements.

Sorry boy but ROTJ > ESB and the Second Death Star beign bigger and badder was a pioneer concept in the 80s which put its audience into a more tense atmosphere, so give it a rest with your revisionism. 😉

[@SlashManEXE]

​@ Commenting on a critique qualifies as revisionism. Got it.

[@Walamonga1313]

Not to mention it rendered the entire OT pointless. All events that happened in 3 films? Made inconsequential by the sequels. They ended up in the exact same place as in A New Hope

[@MrConstantine02]

@ No, it wasn't. It was a lazy rehash, and people knew it already back in '83 (there's a reason why ROTJ got, by far, the worst critical reception of any of the OT movies).

[@skull1161]

@@Walamonga1313 exactly lmao, revive the Jedi Order? NOPE, YOU STUCK WITH 1 JEDI AGAIN

[@mrpepsy1520]

The thing everyone gets wrong with the whole Kyle destroying his mask is that it didn’t need to happen. He left it in the room where he kills Han and then that planet gets destroyed. So he shouldn’t even of had it at the start of The Last Jedi. It seems as though Ryan didn’t even watch TFA.

[@nickm8874]

He’s a moon faced cretin. He might have watched it. He just can’t comprehend anything

[@MrOgge50]

I usually end up watching the prequels, sometimes I feel the urge to watch the original but I never want to watch the sequels, they just don’t matter to me

[@shadowninja1275]

The Sequel trilogy had no plan at all, it's just bland. 👎

[@gunjantripathi3340]

originals are the best cause of course they are but after some time I have come to appreciate the prequals. yes, they weren't properly executed but there was a cohesive story and I loved the characters of Qui Gon, Anakin, padme and palpatine. Also the prequals gave us Ewan McGregor as Obi wan Kenobi so what's there to complain 😜

[@Mr-or9pn]

i have rewatched them, mostly with friends or family that havent seen them yet. Just to watch them react to absurdity

[@MrOgge50]

@@piccolo5346 No it actually is the masterpiece called revenge of the sith

[@MrOgge50]

@@piccolo5346 Yea so what?

[@5FingerBallad]

This is probably the most rational and detailed analysis of why everything went wrong with the sequels.

[@joeandrew8752]

I like that it doesn't try and pin everything on sjw message. The flaws are more basic / fundamental than a poorly executed message. I feel it did a good job articulating it.

[@VladDascaliuc]

You would probably like MauLer's critique then.

[@5FingerBallad]

@@VladDascaliuc still waiting for his full analysis on Rise

[@VladDascaliuc]

@@5FingerBallad I'd say that should be the Grand Finale after he finishes murdering Force Awakens. Like the payoff after all this setup and groundwork.

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

Go watch Maulers 20+ hours of criticism. The Rise of Skywalker alone is 12 hours. Not throwing shade on this video, it's exceptionally good and right in the money. But if you talk "detailed" Mauler has this one beat.

[@BRONZALiVE]

The sequels offered nothing new to the universe and made it feel small and everything that was built up in 1-6 was essentially meaningless, Episode 7 essentially ends in the exact same place the galaxy was in new hope, its just the same old lazy repeated story of rebels v empire again and more death stars and Palpatine coming back, boring as hell. I wish we had got to see a new threat and Lukes jedi order and Han and Leias kids, seeing Luke as a dumbledore like figure in the new trilogy, focusing on this time period instead of skipping over all that and just rehashing the original trilogy again with a lone jedi finding a master who exiled himself after the jedi fell again, why I dont consider them canon in because it doesn't evolve the story, it ruins the legacy of everything that came before

[@SolidPain6624]

And that is why I have deleted the existence of the sequels from my mind. When people asked me if I’ve seen all the Star Wars movies I say yes, all 6 of them. The sequels do nothing good for the saga at all.

[@decoyaardvark2828]

We got that in the books. People hated the new threats and Luke was called OP cause he could never lose.

[@fiercelypolygons3696]

Luke in the EU/Legends is too damn OP, he was supposed to become more powerful than any Jedi was before. Initally, Lucas's plans for the ST were to continue from EP6 with Leia rebuilding the New Republic after defeating the Empire, Luke finishes his training to become Grand Master and starts to form his Jedi Academy all while Darth Maul comes back Yes, Darth Maul, Back from EP1. Teamed up with Darth Talon( A Sith Twi'lek from the EU/Legends) alongside a Crime Syndicate for revenge. Grandchildren would be introduced too, but not too many details were specificed. Honestly this is a really basic idea, and Darth Maul's return is the most WTF thing I have ever seen. Of course this should be noted that Lucas thought of this in the very early stages of the TCW(When the movie released and before the series, hence before the canon return of Maul) But still returning a side character and suddenly just placing him so many years later, makes no sense. So honestly the Force Awakens should stay as it is, with EP8 and 9 completely overhauled, maybe with a unified vision this time, and Trevorrow's idea for EP9 is honestly imo amazing. You should check it out, just search "Episode 9 Duels of the Fates" here on YT and you'll see SW KZbinrs going over the script and concept art. But yea, all of your other points, I agree, they massacred Luke so badly here and Rey... what even is her purpose? Finn got more development than Rey herself in EP7

[@stormbringer2840]

@@fiercelypolygons3696 It is the early stage of thinking , I think what could've work was darth Talon was the disciple of someone who found Darth mauls holocron and became a pseudo-sith ( but of course less powerful since it only had an holocron to train ) and used the knowledge to become the godfather of crime .

[@biggboi1025]

The star wars galaxy is so huge, and that's what made the sequel trilogy feel immersive. The charecters were in a giant galaxy. The sequel trilogy is just skywalkers, and it feels like that's all the galaxy has to it.

[@cellytron]

"Getting all of this over with" is the perfect way to describe episode IX. This thing happens because it's time for it to happen. Now it's time for Rey to worry she's gone to the dark side because it's time for her to worry she's gone to the dark side. Now it's time for Kylo to be redeemed somehow, because it's time for him to be redeemed.

[@beneil2]

the fuck?

[@rosswebster7877]

This is one of the better critiques of the Sequel Trilogy I’ve seen. No die-hards vs. revisionists, no Wokeism vs. Toxic Fanboys, no attacks on individual actors or directors. Just an honest fairly objective forensic into how a lack of communication, visionary cohesion, direction, basic storytelling and understanding of Star Wars itself, ruined something that had the potential to be great. As with the prequels within the mess, are echoes of a better movie.

[@lessalazar9068]

Take a look at MauLers critiques if you like this

[@aesir1ases64]

The Sequels made the prequels lookinh like the greatest masterpiece, they at least had a plan from start to finish lol

[@codeviper8665]

@@lessalazar9068 Second this, was about to say it myself

[@Luke101]

@@lessalazar9068 maulers are good but they’re too self indulgent and highly vitriolic

[@jacoporegini8841]

Disney invested over 6 billion dollars in this project and they made something most people would not watch for free. Art cannot be a product.

[@srj34]

But virtually all art has been a product. Patrons commissioning works from painters, sculptors, composers. People paying for tickets to live theatre, the symphony, movies...art exists because there is a demand for it, and the artist who isn't compensated for his work will have to move on to do other things. If art isn't a product, we wouldn't have it.

[@jacoporegini8841]

@@srj34 real Art chases the muse. A product merely the dollar.

[@christopheryanez]

I grantee you Lucas laughed his ass off with every sequel film and is laughing at how much money he was given for his product to be shit on and all the people who blindly hated the Prequels most likely being a factor that influence Lucas selling Star Wars. One thing I’m grateful for the Sequels is that they’re making a shit ton of people realize show decent and respectable they were.

[@skull1161]

@@srj34 is that why George Lucas created one of the best universe ever seen, sells it for 4 billion and immediately gives the money to charity?

[@KneelB4Bacon]

And Disney handed over this franchise to an action-schlock director and a giggling nihilist, who had NO overall plan for the trilogy. That's insane. Did NO ONE outside of the Disney "story group" ask to review the scripts? Did NO ONE have the veto power to say, "these stories are sh*t. Start again." ?

[@b.o.j.1442]

The only thing this movies did right, was that disney forcing JJ to finish his story, exposed him as the buffoon he actually is.

[@Rebecca-oh5yh]

This times x1000. JJ has no storytelling abilities and just ruins franchises. I should know; I'm a Star Trek fan.

[@budusbusham3324]

JJ is the son of a legendary producer and an extremely successful screenwriting dynasty, he’s never had to work hard or learn anything to get anywhere. Quite frankly, he needed this reality check.

[@Walamonga1313]

Abrams and Johnson*. Talentless hacks both of em. They just took ideas from better stories (Original Trilogy and Knights of the Old Republic 2) and tried to mash em in

[@attackoftheclonesisnotthat790]

@@Walamonga1313 Okay yeah i can understand why you hate last jedi but Rian Johnson is a good director check out some of his other films like Brick, looper and especially Knives out

[@johnnyfroggo7361]

@@attackoftheclonesisnotthat790 From what I understand, Johnson may be a good director (I haven't seen any of his other work), but not when you stick him in the middle of an established universe with tons of lore that he needs to follow. Didn't he say in an interview somewhere that he doesn't care about established worldbuilding or lore?

[@ssudzy3]

“It’s themes don’t stop resonating when you grow up, you just see them differently the more you understand the world” Perfect. I actually like the prequel trilogy now more than I did as a kid because the politics in it are so real, relatable, and understanding, yet they don’t make the story bland or boring.

[@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820]

The politics make the movies better honestly. To the point where now I wish ANH had let us see a senate session, maybe show them panicking as they realize that Palpatine has shut them down for good.

[@davemac9563]

The politics are told so poorly, but the ideas are real. So the prequels had good ideas, just bad execution

[@EslamAbuelhana]

@@davemac9563the prequels are amazing

[@just4justincase]

The sequels don't need to be critiqued. They need to be destroyed.

[@adinocc2042]

Space `em!

[@randomdude189]

Like the last airbender.

[@passionsquietrage]

Or released with the removed scenes cut back in as well as additional scenes to flesh out some backstory details.

[@luizpalombini3425]

they need to be erased from canon.

[@passionsquietrage]

@@luizpalombini3425 Or just remade with better writing.

[@IanPeon]

*JJ* : "We wanted to give these, sort of fundamental, not cosmetic, but sort of prerequisite elements." *Yoda* : "That is why you failed."

[@IanPeon]

You also deserve congratulations for concisely illustrating the the sequel trilogy's galaxy worth of issues within a paltry 1:09:12.

[@DXFromYT]

@@IanPeon Thank you!

[@IanPeon]

@@DXFromYT Seriously, a lot of video critiques I've seen have taken 1+ hours per FILM. I'm not counting RLM though, because they're awesome, and rule the KZbin comment section.

[@WobblesandBean]

I literally grinded ny teeth when he said on the commentary track "Yeah it's not scientifically accurate, but we're not making a sci-fi movie, we're making a visually exciting movie".

[@Anijah2001]

The Star Wars sequel trilogy is the best example of wasted potential

[@campkira]

no just greed... they want to catch the demand of it.. they don't want to wait too long or the ip is death... how very disney..

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

I think the prequel trilogy is way more wasted potential, those films at least had some intereresting ideas, even if the execution was bad.

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 but thanks to the prequels we have clone wars 2003 and 2008, KOTOR 1&2 and the old republic.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

@@jaieregilmore971 yeah, but thanks to the sequels we now have EFAP

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

@Trey Stephens It's a podcast started by 3 KZbinrs who hated The Last Jedi; Mauler, Rags & The Dishonoured Wolf. Now it's a whole community of people who love memes and hate bad writing.

[@brianrihafink]

Your final conclusion was singlehandedly more captivating than the entirety of the sequels

[@DXFromYT]

Thanks, that means a ton!

[@zacharyjochumsen9677]

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[@theoreogamer2148]

This video helped me confirm my beliefs that the Disney Star Wars Sequels are in an alternate reality from the prequels and original trilogy.

[@jalenjohnson1662]

Yeah I don’t acknowledge them as an actual continuation of the saga.

[@Carolean_Vergil]

The Disney movies also don't have episodic numbers in their titles like the Lucas movies have so you'd be right in that assessment.

[@theoreogamer2148]

@@Carolean_Vergil do you mean rogue one and solo? Because I did actually like those.

[@Carolean_Vergil]

@@theoreogamer2148 No, I mean that the official titles and posters for the Disney movies don't include roman numerals like the Lucas movies do.

[@Batman85no1]

You're too generous, it's just a bad fanfic for me.

[@suningchen]

"Rey's conflict is fear about her fate, Luke's conflict was fear about the fate of others." That's deep.

[@Biggiiful]

That statement is deep, true. What's sad though, is that Luke being written like that isn't even that deep....it's just that Rey is so unbelievably, incredibly shallow.

[@nightmareTomek]

It sounds deep and thus very cool, but I don't think it's true. Rey has no conflict, she visits battles and obstacles like a kid rides in an amusement park.

[@matics898]

Not really.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Rey doesn't have any conflicts. She starts off perfect and stays that way through the entire trilogy. She has no personal problems to overcome.

[@xXEverymanXx]

It`s actually a forecast of OUR future where the only important person is yourself

[@jesusleyva4386]

The Disney sequels failed because they never established what was going on. There were too many questions left unanswered. Who is the New Rupublic? Why were the rebels still fighting? Why was the First Order against the New Republic? Why was the emperor in hiding? etc.

[@jesusleyva4386]

@Johanna_ Jelly The New Republic was destroyed before we knew anything about them, so why would we care?

[@eds6755]

They failed because they didn't give a shit at all about the writing and it showed.

[@emberfist8347]

@@jesusleyva4386 Except that doesn't make sense they blew up one system. I am sorry but that is not the entire New Republic.

[@jesusleyva4386]

@@emberfist8347 When I first saw Force Awakens, I thought the First Order was already in charge. I had no idea there even was a New Republic. Thats how awful the writing was. Now imagine how confusing that is for a casual fan. Abrams didn't explain WTF was going on at all

[@emberfist8347]

@@jesusleyva4386 Well it doesn't there is a group called the resistance which implies they were fighting a dominant power not some fringe elements.

[@vogonp4287]

Finn had so much potential. He is the only character with a unique setup, and was the only character I was actually interested in.

[@JackTorrance333]

He was token. Nothing more.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

Sad but true I think his protrayal in the force awakens kind of works especially when we understand his limitations and his gradual strengthening but of course that goes nowhere when we send him back to start to make him learn to be a team player “again”. I’d argue that Finn’s subplot in The Last Jedi should have focused on fleshing out the true status quo of the universe at this point I know people like the idea of a stormtrooper reformed but I think they should actually be asking “WHY are there still stormtroopers at this point?”

[@MrWadewynn]

Current sequel trilogy is basically expensive fan films. Prequel series was clunky but overall more ambitious storytelling

[@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE]

I wish the prequel stories were given the visuals they deserve. The biggest problem with these movies in my opinion is that most of the CGI looks like shit

[@kat-dy6jc]

@Jack der Hauptsturmführer the sequels are best described as a "product", it was essentially made by a bunch of suits looking to make a profit. Unlike the original trilogy and prequels, those were made with the intent of entertainment, telling a good story and lesson, and just other good positives.

[@nightmareTomek]

@Jack der Hauptsturmführer I think the sequels can be somewhat called fanfictions. JJ wasn't the original creator, but surely a fan of the universe who couldn't wait to squeeze his own ideas into it. The fact that he's hired compared to some fanfiction writers on websites isn't pivotal for the definition. Fanfiction isn't the same as fan film.

[@MrChickennugget360]

@@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE the biggest problem is that the first two film are shit shows and the third one has to do lots of catch up. Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones should have been one movie with "the Cone Wars" as a the second and Revenge of the Sith the third. This gives more time for chracter development. As it happens nothing really happens in Phantom Menace (other than a litteral introduciton of chracters) Attack of the Clones wastes to much of its plot and barley

[@derekevans7950]

The Sequels > the Prequels. The Sequel Trilogy > the Prequel Trilogy.

[@DigitalVanquish]

This is the most balanced and leveled analysis I've seen of the "trilogy", and your arguments were very well articulated. It's great work.

[@pqsnet]

Blaming the film before? Really? Its as well thought as blaming Terminator 3, 4, 5 on Terminator 2. Or Blaming The Farse Awakens on The Return of the Jedi... Its dishonest... The Last Skywalker was Ruin Johnsons work, Not JJ's.

[@Ruvik049]

I suggest you watch the sequal critiques by Mauler, they are my favourite analysis of these movies.

[@jamaicanball6285]

@@pqsnet what?

[@Bustermachine]

@@jamaicanball6285 Clearly everything wrong with the Prequel Trilogy lays at the feet of Ryan Johnson and his insidious leftist cultural-marxist political agenda empowered by the woke disney political elites :/ That was sarcasm by the way. Look, I definitely think Johnson is a very political director (incidentally, so are directors like Zack Snyder, or Clint Eastwood) and I do think he made critical errors in his treatment for the last Jedi. But the overwhelming majority of his objective errors were, imho, technical ones that lead to a hash of a movie. He just did not know how to pace something like this where we had multiple story threads going at once and didn't have the experience to know when an idea wouldn't work before shooting it. Which is unfortunate because Johnson is a pretty good director, just probably a poor choice for a main line Star Wars movie.

[@jamaicanball6285]

@@Bustermachine I mean I somewhat agree but what is that dude saying from above

[@Captianmex1C0]

"somehow, Palpatine has returned" is the equivalent of when I was 6 and said Oxygen turned people into dinosaurs because the air "wasn't used to" too much smoke from a volcano

[@fruitylerlups530]

That.. is utterly incomorehensible and thus i absolutely believe you said it when you were 6 and relate strongly

[@sstrange1973]

As Ralph Wiggum stated, "My cat's breath smells like cat food."

[@jo3y960]

Alright. Let me be honest. Having witnessed too many rewrites of the sequel by now by Cardinal West and a few others, I think there's one thing that we can mostly agree on: Anything...Literally...anything with passion, thought, consistency to prior lore, actual choreography. THEY COULDNT SCREW THIS UP IF THEY TRIED. But they did, because fundamentally Lucasfilm couldn't understand what Star Wars was about. Garret in the comments puts it best. Why did they get rid of JJ? Why did they not have AT LEAST A ROADMAP of how this was going to play out? Even the canceled episode 9 sounded LEAGUES better if they would've taken the time to setup everything. I just don't understand what was the directive behind anything here. When you've got Mark Hamil, the man who plays the character, talking to you uncomfortably about his role in the story, and you just waive it off as an old man who knows nothing about your vision? Do you even have a setup for the next movie? You can't even give the NEXT guy working of the series room to finish what you continued. In hindsight, this trilogy was an absolute atrocity to the intelligence of its audience and not only that, but the messages its trying to convey to the audience. Because Star Wars is about family, not a bloodline, or a heritage. But the family we make along the way. Its why KOTOR works. Its why the prequels work to some extent. This trilogy lacked anything that could've made it worth a next generation of SW fans.

[@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823]

Disney is tarnishing their own legacy yet people keep wondering how they couldn’t do star wars right. They just don’t care. Things won’t improve as long as they keep hiring activists to do the work of entertainers. You don’t get these disasters by mere laziness or lack of talent.

[@christopherbennett5858]

@@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823 especially since most of the activists are rather performative. Leah killed her abuser in Return of the Jedi. Rey had to kiss her’s.

[@Jiub_SN]

They should've kept JJ away, he's the one who suggested abandoning the Lucas treatments, he's the one who wanted to remake Star Wars, and Rian's movie was produced by JJ, and JJ loved it in a way we've never seen (check interviews), the sequels were doomed since TFA and I've been saying it since then, there was never a plan after dumping Lucas'

[@Cassiopeia-hn5ue]

The best thing about the sequels is they really make me appreciate Revenge of the Sith

[@ldgarius]

Well it's already the best film out of the 6 that deserve to be called "films". If anything, it's made me apreciate the original trilogy much better.

[@reshasaurus8297]

Revenge of the Sith is the worst Star War by a large margin. Anakin’s turn is force d and unearned. Padme is a prop. The Jedi are not realized as characters so you don’t care when they die. Ewan McGregor and Ian Mc can’t save an entire film. Still waiting for an honest review of the movie.

[@Cassiopeia-hn5ue]

@@reshasaurus8297 well they would say it may have flaws but is still great movie

[@sarveshnathan7559]

@@reshasaurus8297 Not it's the best movie by a large margin. Anakins turn wasn't forced at all. And CW helps flesh out these characters.

[@gunjantripathi3340]

revenge of the sith is awesome

[@GrapeCheckerBoard]

“The Last Jedi admittedly didn’t have much of a choice with Luke […]” I thought TFA implied he was on some important mission; that’s why he left a map. I don’t agree Rian’s hand was forced. He could easily have given Luke a reason to be missing that was true to his character.

[@TheZamaron]

That's why TLJ fails. It's pretty clear JJ was setting up that Luke had gone there for a reason. If Luke wanted to go there and die alone, why the fuck would he leave a map to his location? Leaving a map indicated he intended to return one day, or that his friends could find him if they needed him. Plus all we saw of Luke in TFA was simply him turn around and look at Rey with a stern face, clearly not expecting her. There was no set up that he'd be a grumpy old ma who'd gone their to give up and die. It shows that Ryan despite being a good director (Knives Out), clearly doesn't know how to flow off other's work.

[@MetalSandman999]

TFA was very vague, if I recall correctly. They kinda just said he ran off. It implied he went into hiding/exile and set the stage for what happened in TLJ. However, while TLJ was following the setup of TfA, Rian Johnson easily could have...subverted our expectations...and had it revealed that Luke run off for a good reason (like an important mission or something), rather than following what TFA implied.

[@TheZamaron]

@@MetalSandman999 The fact that Luke left a map for his friends to find him in TFA meant that he most likely went there for some important reason, not to just die like TLJ retconned it to be. If you want to be left alone why leave something telling people where to find you? Just doesn't make sense.

[@virgogaming6488]

Luke could have left a map in the hopes someone would find him and change his mind about wanting to die. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with, it's a problem since the map is never mentioned in TLJ.

[@Jiub_SN]

No, TfA have no indication of why he was there, just that he was missing. What reason would have made Luke run away? Why wouldn't he come back when his sister and best friend were in danger? TFA tied Rians hands, and he could've done better but not much. I think people aren't hard enough on JJ here, he's the reason the sequels are this bad. TFA is basically nostalgia and a bunch of mystery boxes with no real substance

[@lisaleyendekker8305]

The prequels had a more coherent and connected story than the sequels. change my mind.

[@jdh219]

this is a very cold take nobody will try to change your mind

[@randomgamemusic3368]

I don't want to change you're mind, because you are absolutely rigth

[@pauljacobs435]

Okay, here’s a kilo of brain damage inducing, lead laced meth. In a year, you should start preferring the sequels.

[@sucky-kun4369]

@@pauljacobs435 But why

[@jasonfarrell00]

No…I don’t think I will ☝️🧐

[@blackpajamas6600]

I teach college composition and literature, a fair amount of which includes argument and deconstruction, and I have to say....this is one of the most concise, cogent, and emphatic critiques of the sequels I've ever heard. Seriously. Transcribe this and break it into however many sections you like - I'd publish this in some larger alternative media outlet in a heartbeat.

[@adaml7349]

I felt the same way. Best critique of the sequel trilogy I’ve heard thus far

[@sseltrek1a2b]

"The Mandalorian" is a perfect example of how to tell a unique story that is clearly set in the Star Wars Universe (with nods to the original trilogy not done for "fan service", but to give a sense of the space the story is unfolding in...)..."The Force Awakens" was nothing but JJ's version of, "A New Hope"...but this is what he does (plagiarizes, this time with a huge budget...)...couldn't agree more that they clearly had no real vision for what story they wanted to tell, so it all "looks and sounds" like Star Wars, but has none of the originality or cohesive of the 1st trilogy..."The Last Jedi" did me in- had no interest in seeing the last movie after that dumpster fire...

[@randomdude189]

The force awakens was sooooo bad and it only got worse. I didn’t think it would be possible but entertainment has taken a very bad direction the last few years

[@tanmaydeshpande]

Mando S2 ep8 saved star wars. LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER IS BACK BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSS

[@skull1161]

@@randomdude189 force awakens was better than TLJ and TROS though. I hated the way the movie was made but I liked the characters they introduced. Until all those characters got literally 0 development and they end up the same person as the first movie.

[@luizpalombini3425]

@@skull1161 Force awakens set the whole trilogy for failure... rey had no personality to develop because she was a perfect mary sue.

[@ericcaulfield4477]

I'd argue Rogue One told a more unique story with nods to the original trilogy also. Hell I'd watch Solo again than any of these movies.

[@inktea256]

It would have been so touching for Rey to have buried the lightsabers on Naboo. In a way, Anakin, Luke, and Leia would have rested with Padme. Well, until they appeared to someone in the future to help them. Did Leia or Kylo even go through that training to become Force Ghosts????

[@campkira]

disney had hard on with Tatoetine... i sick and tired of this planet and they keep going back...

[@emberfist8347]

@@campkira Well they actually have a hard-on for Desert Planets which is actually worse because you get worlds that are basically not-Tatooines.

[@demizson576]

Anakin was right after all... Sand does get everywhere.

[@emberfist8347]

@@demizson576 Damn I was going to say that.

[@Soccercrazyigboman]

Well Disney has tried hard to ignore the prequels

[@kinshred1222]

"This has always been a story about Skywalkers and Palpatines" Oh god Star Wars is Sci-fi Kingdom Hearts

[@jonah_da_mann]

Both were written in the same way too: improvisation and far too many retcons.

[@campkira]

palpatines was on a it in the last.. he just there ... for some reason they just go with twisted.... sine nobody think ray shuld be from him... it made dark side story to be just palpatine... boring..

[@demizson576]

"This has always been a story about Skywalkers and Palpatines" Soo ... Sci-fi Game of Thrones? :)

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

Even if what you say is correct, it would be the other way around. Kingdom hearts wasn't a wet stain in Disney's pants when SW was made.

[@kinshred1222]

​@@F1rstWorldNomaD Tetsuya Nomura ghost wrote the SW sequels

[@stefankuschmierz297]

100% on point. Finally Someone summarizes what I felt about this awful trilogy. Thank you. Also those quotes from JJ Abrahms show his complete incompetence of understanding the Star Wars universe. Sad thing Disney messed it up so hard. I felt so much hope after rogue one. Keep up the good work.

[@fattyjaybird7505]

Cookie cuttin bastards

[@DarkHallwayz]

Rogue One tricked us all into thinking modern Star Wars would be good

[@fattyjaybird7505]

@@DarkHallwayz yea, i liked Rogue One way better than any of the other newer ones

[@Carolean_Vergil]

I got to be honest, except for the third act and Krennic's scenes, Rogue One was pretty mediocre.

[@stefankuschmierz297]

​@@Carolean_Vergil Thats your opinion. Ich wish Episode 7-9 were at least mediocre, but they are the biggest disgrace the film industry did to the Star Wars Franchise. Weak character developments, missing or irritating plots, refurbishing old Star wars scenes by exaggurating. The Death Star is now a planet, it can destroy 5 planets instead of 1, the list goes on and on. For me Rogue One is probably the only Disney Star Wars Movie, that somehow feels right. Right aestheticts, interesting plot, certain darkness like in The Empire strikes back. I got to be honest episode 7- 9 simply are bad movies. One big fail.

[@CyanideBlizzard]

You worked your butt off these past 8 months to make this video happen, and it was all worth it to get to this point. Congrats on conquering this behemoth!

[@playerone6995]

He put more work and passion into this video than Disney did for the whole sequel trilogy

[@purplehaze2358]

The irony of the entire trilogy telling us Rei isn’t defined by anyone else so much that it forgot to actually define her and just ended with her defining herself as a Skywalker is hilarious to me.

[@k.-flynn]

Are you really just spamming the comments with Mauler opinions

[@purplehaze2358]

@@k.-flynn Ah, yes, it can’t be that these “Opinions” are formulated from the film itself. Nope, it has to be that I got it exclusively from someone else. Yeah, totally.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@k.-flynnAre you really pretending it's impossible for two people to arrive at the same conclusion about something?

[@llla_german_ewoklll6413]

The only reason palpatine electrocuted himself in revenge of the sith was so that he could get anakin to join the dark side so he could save padme. The reason he electrocutes himself in the rise of skywalker is nonsense.

[@Nico-9138]

Exactly, it helped him manipulate Anakin by making it look like Windu was directly attacking him and Jedi were monsters

[@BiriBiri925]

Well, to be more precise, he did not hit himself with lightning, it was Windu who did it, he deflected force lightning with the help of Vapaad. But Palpatine could at any moment...well, stop shoot lightning. And here you are right, he thus persuaded Anakin, moreover, we can see that he put his life on it, because if Anakin did not succumb to the dark side, Windu would definitely kill Palpatine.

[@nikadgod5152]

Can you imagine the writer who said "let's make the main character a black storm trooper who defects and joins the resistance" and then getting told by KK "that's cool. He can join my Mary sue, Rey". Low blow to a cool idea.

[@TheMrDewil]

I've always considered first six episodes of Star Wars as a biography of Darth Vader. Childhood, beginning of training, adolescence, building a successful career as a Jedi, corruption, ultimate downfall and finally, redemption. The story arch was complete, and they should've left it at that. Spin off stories was a good idea, well, not without flaws in execution, but still a good idea. Basically, next trilogy could be about anything, anything but this. Star Wars universe and lore is so huge, you can point your finger at any time period and find an epic story there, hmm, well, maybe not epic per se, but still, one worth telling and showing. I for one, wouldn't mind for film creators to delve into ancient times before Sith and Jedi, where first prototype lightsabers only began to appear, first fighting styles started to emerge. To see, how it all began.

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@lingricen8077 And yet Disney failed that too.

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@lingricen8077 Really shows that People who work on the Disney trilogy lack originality seriously who want another rehash of empire and rebels again I hope they realize most empires aren’t evil it just that the leader of that empire shouldn’t be a dark siders because they can’t rule a galaxy at all and a rebel faction can be evil as well. Also you mentioned that Rey “feel the emotions and stories” of Anakin lightsaber than shouldn’t she knows the dark deeds of Anakin did in order 66 oh but oh wait JJ dislike the prequels and ignore it hate it when people keep calling it “Luke lightsaber” and Rey beating Kylo doesn’t make sense in context considering she never trained with a lightsaber and make more sense for Finn to beat Kylo due to solider training but they made him a goddamn janitor. As for Kylo his reasoning turning to the dark side and being like darth vader is weak because if anyone who has the right mindset knows stories of Anakin/Darth Vader knows to avoid being like him at all cost.

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@lingricen8077 It really shows that the first order is not intimidating at all we have a Wannabe Vader(Kylo Ren)a wannabe Talkin(Hux) a wannabe Boba Fett(Phaszma) and a wannabe Emperor(Snoke) but none of them couldn’t had lived up or surpass the Original villains they cardboard cut out with no substance. They try to make us sympathize with Finn being a former stormtrooper but he lost it when he killed his fellow stormtroopers left and right through out the movies with no remorse and cheering for there deaths really shows he a backstabbing coward. They bring back Palpatine but really I’m surprised anyone takes him seriously and they made him boring I was bored through out whole TROS because he doing the exact same thing in return of the Jedi but worse.

[@purplehaze2358]

I’m not the first to say this, but it’s accurate nonetheless. The Disney sequel trilogy is the cinematic equivalent of two babies fighting over who’s toys get to be in the box, except the box and toys costed billions of dollars and tens of thousands of dollars respectively.

[@jesusleyva4386]

Maybe if they gave just one baby all the toys, the product maybe could have been better. Maybe

[@campkira]

greed...nothing more... start of with op woman... end with op woman... feel like they just submot and disney right now woman r in power and they just like op woman..

[@emberfist8347]

Actually it was three babies since Colin Trevarow was going to do nine but his script was rejected.

[@grayski3324]

Aw I see you are also a Mauler fan

[@VladDascaliuc]

@@jesusleyva4386 Eh... Sure? I mean, it wouldn't have been as messy in terms of retcons from one movie to the other, yeah, but would it really have been that much better quality wise? If JJ did it, it would have been mediocre at best with some good to it I suppose, and if Rian did it, well... Let's just say that it would be ironically interesting. Either one would have been pretty bad anyways. I just don't think it's all that fair to give all the credit of its failure to the lack of planning and direction. Each of the 3 movies is a shitfest in its own right, and that's mostly or entirely on JJ and Rian.

[@BP-dn9nv]

A lot of people like to defend the trilogy of having good characters like Kylo Ren and Rey (though I disagree strongly with that one). In my opinion though, none of the characters are that good on there own and are only made good because they have great actors behind them. If Adam Driver wasn't playing Kylo, he would have been pretty laughable.

[@silverioabreu6370]

Imo kylo ren is a good character so shut up

[@shawerful5209]

@@silverioabreu6370 in the comics, other materials maybe, but in the movies he is just a whiny emo kid.

[@luchomscyfy]

@Kenobi I never found an actor like Daisy Ridley who became worse with every movie. I dunno. She's less charismatic with every passing movie, and by the time of RoTS she is just phoning her lines. Amazing.

[@luchomscyfy]

@@lingricen8077 Like Daisy Ridely? Hayden Christensen at least became bearable around Revenge of the Sith.

[@luchomscyfy]

@@lingricen8077 nah, she got worse with every movie. You can see her phoning her perforance thru Rise. It's pretty bad, actually.

[@nathanielc.1699]

This is one of the best videos I have seen on the Sequel Trilogy and deserves far more attention. This is not anger or hate, its constructive criticism that can allow other storytellers to improve their own stories, and I hope Disney can learn the importance of this kind of content and these kinds of creators. Great work DX, absolutely amazing!

[@sammydray5919]

Finn is the best representation of these sequels - Could have some AMAZING story potential but ultimately floundered everything down the drain and ultimately is nothing but bland and will only be remembered for the destruction of old lore and characters.

[@Tareltonlives]

Starts out brilliant but is derailed 10 minutes in

[@nomlasaki]

“in fact, rey has more in common with doctor manhattan than she does with any jedi” that line had me laugh so hard

[@customrulerinokripperino1094]

A Critique Of The Sequels: 1:09:13 “You’re shorter than I expected.”

[@xnet_cascade6257]

Try not to disappoint him Anakin, let’s hear it out first

[@SPR-Ninja]

You've been watching Mauler haven't you? XD

[@rynzller4412]

Honestly, I was SURE, when the first sequel movie came, that Rey was Luke’s daughter. If you think about it, it would fit perfectly. The reason why the lightsaber calls to her, is because she is actually a Skywalker, and it would also explain why she can use the force as well as she does. I always imagined that she managed to use the force that well, because she was actually trained with Luke’s younglings, and when Kylo turned on them, Luke used the force to erase her memories, and she manages to use the force well because it’s kinda subconscious, or because she trained enough for the force to be really in sync with her. This way she would not only have a pretty good backstory, but she wouldnt be a Mar Sue

[@megalord2598]

Force awakens is still really bad film on its own merits

[@KellogsR-ny7ug]

I think she should have been Han and Leias daughter and Luke’s student They’re so much that could have unfolded: we see the true status quo of the galaxy and the political climate. We see the Jedi order gradually and with we at least allow the victory of the rebel alliance to actually have effect

[@shedshow1439]

Both these ideas are far better than what we got.

[@brucesnow7125]

I also like to point out that Luke recognized flaws of the Jedi long before TLJ. The entire point of prequels was to show how flawed Jedi were and how Luke can build something better. One of the main flaws - ignoring the attachments rule. In prequels, Jedi are forbidden to form attachments. Anakin who has so much baggage, needed someone to talk to, but Jedi told him to ignore it. He decided to go to one person who was willing to understand - Palpatine. Palpatine used this massive flaw to his advantage and turned Anakin. It's especially shown well in Clone Wars. In ROTJ, Luke goes against the advise of his masters and tries to understand Vader. His attachment is what saves the galaxy. Unlike Anakin, Luke had people who listened and understood. This shows that he realizes that his masters failed his father and he now knows what's the right course of action. TLJ acts like Luke learned non of that. He makes the same exact mistake Jedi made in prequels, put pragmatism over their morals and beliefs. This makes no sense because he did the exact opposite with Vader and succeeded. Wouldn't it be a much more powerful story if Luke used the same method with Ben, but it didn't work? Imagine how his world would have been shattered. Sequels could've been a story about how there are no absolutes.

[@ridensroom6957]

This is exactly why I have embraced the EU so hard in the last year. What you described is exactly what happens. Luke recognises the faults of the PT era Jedi and makes sure his Jedi Order will not make those same mistakes. Something JJA will clearly think should only be learned by Rey and not Luke in future stories. Thankfully we will never see that.

[@chrislox1]

As good and as accurate this critique of the sequels is, it only scratches the surface of how bad they are!

[@kingbash6466]

If you searched “disappointment” in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture SW Sequel Trilogy next to it.

[@mrrhombus716]

Nah you'll see Game Of Thrones. As bad as the new Star Wars is they are actually movies that somebody will watch. NOBODY will watch G0T season 8.

[@death-king1834]

Disappointment isn't an accurate enough statement to describe this farce of a trilogy. In fact merely calling it a ''disappointment'' is quite frankly insulting to the very word. The Hobbit Trilogy was disappointing. Superman Returns was disappointing. Ghostbusters 2 was disappointing. No Man's Sky was disappointing. This? This was a utter and complete shit-show of epic proportions. Not since the days of Highlander 2: The Quickening have I seen a franchise so utterly and completely fucked in just under a few short years.

[@randomidk8781]

No💖

[@Taojas]

If you search *subvert v.* in the dictionary, you'll get a list of synonyms : destabilize unsettle overthrow overturn bring down bring about the downfall of topple depose oust supplant unseat dethrone disestablish dissolve disrupt wreak havoc on sabotage ruin upset destroy annihilate demolish wreck undo undermine undercut weaken impair damage corrupt pervert warp deprave defile debase distort contaminate poison embitter vitiate AND a TLJ movie poster with a photo of Rian Johnson beside it.

[@Thebest-wc3ow]

@You tube if you want 1 reason Why the new trilogy is bad, I can give you 1 argument. This argument is not subjective. They destroyed every rule in the Star Wars universe. Now, this doesnt have to be a bad thing, but then it has to be explained. Now its just like they need or want new spectacular things to happen, so they just put it in there. Another reason wich is more subjective, is that its just boring. The magical feeling, the perfect music, interesting plots and characters. It just is not there.

[@rhaelfixer2584]

The main reason why Yoda hide in Dagobah is because Dagobah is strong in the Dark side of the force which will cloud his Light side alignment presence from both Vader and Sidious

[@TheSixthDoctor]

Man, the X-Wing raising scene was my *positive* breaking point, too. So great to see Luke smile for once and showing off the one thing he never managed in the OT, signifying he truly had become a master. But then >Ghosts can lift X-Wings >X-Wings that are partially dismantled (one "S-foil" flap is Luke's door in TLJ) and have been sitting in saltwater for, I think, 6 or 7 years. Makes absolutely no sense, yet put a tear in my eye.

[@julianeckert4927]

Rey, you was a scrap collector/mechanic basically her whole life easily could´ve build Lukes X-Wing back together. And remember, it should not work as a fully functional starfighter to destroy the death star, it only should bring her to Exegol and it did the job.

[@chrisridenhour]

I was 8 years old when it was just ‘Star Wars’ in 1977. Not ‘A New Hope’. It’s difficult to explain the impact it had on our young, 1970s imaginations. It can never be repeated.

[@fattyjaybird7505]

Thank god the prequels weren't written by todays dunces

[@sorosaltgaming]

@@fattyjaybird7505 ikr

[@petrikor]

the prequels had that effect on me and my generation. I doubt the sequels will do the same though

[@WalnutAnimations]

@@petrikor yeah

[@Toetalwar]

There's a lot of videos on sequel trilogy bashing. But I think you hit a home run with this one my dude.

[@JayDee284]

Well its not a hard thing to do there bloodily awful movies after all :P

[@nosfrattirek5690]

It hurts to hear Rian Johnson claiming to be a fan of Star Wars and having grown up with Luke Skywalker. How can anyone be a fan of Star Wars and disrespect its established rules and lore at every turn? How can anyone grow up with a character and yet fail to understand who they are and what they stand for so completely? When Mark Hamill himself tells you he disagrees with every choice you've made for his character and has to explain to you how a Jedi would actually behave, maybe you should go back to the drawing board. Or better yet, leave the writing to someone who actually knows what they're doing.

[@nickm8874]

Johnson is a hack. And a smug one too. I real life despise him

[@GabesEdtiz]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Rian just isn’t the right fit for Star Wats

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

The thing about TLJ is that it’s more a JJ film The basis stems from the fact that Rian is required to adhere to the mystery box approach Basically JJ insisted on postponing the story, essentially, to keep the audience engaged. This is why Snoke goes out like so with out a name. He may be officially dead or he may not: nothing is set in stone. This is also why Rey is a “nobody”: we’re saving her official identity for the last installment. Sure it’s an arguably clumsy approach and you can’t be faulted for assuming what the film presented was indeed official. Nevertheless, they had no over arching story whatsoever and, again, the whole point was to write/produce the first two installments in such a way that remains vague on the main plot, essentially saving it all for the third installment. Rey being a Palpatine was the plan: it may be shoehorned but it fits in with the approach because Rey being a “nobody”, that is declared by an unreliable source like Kylo Ren can at least from an angle be “walked back on”. After all, to quote Nerdnonymous, they could have revealed Rey’s surname but they didn’t, they could have showed her parents likeness in the cave but they didn’t and he’ll, they could have had the flashback with Rey’s parents in TLJ, but they didn’t

[@harveyplissken4604]

I think this may be your best video to date. The editing and the way you articulated your points are top notch. You've expressed legitimate storytelling criticism brilliantly, without delving into the political aspect of it. An excellent and wonderful job you've made, DX. As for the sequel films themselves, I think the best way to really approach them IMO is to look at them as optional side material. The general Skywalker story began in 1977 and the final piece of the story came out in 2005 when Revenge of the Sith was released. Everything else is just head canon. You could watch the sequels if you really want to, but you're not missing anything by skipping them entirely. Imagine if George Lucas's original 6 films were a fully completed game, but then out comes a crappy epilogue section that ruins an otherwise great game as DLC. The DLC is the ST in a nutshell. What is your opinion on The Mandalorian and Rogue One, if you don't mind me asking?

[@DXFromYT]

Thanks for the kind words! I love Rogue One and Mando. I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Star Wars, I don't really think anything outside the OT really *needs* to exist, but given that this content does, I think Mando and RO are the best recent SW entries. I don't even really dislike Solo.

[@combatking0]

Jar Jar Abrams: [while writing the last movie] "And then Death Star Star Destroyers emerged from the ground as numerous as the mystery boxes I pull from my ass."

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

I swear he wrote the script in crayon

[@viscountrainbows6452]

He has a hyperspace dimension in his ass because the bullshit is infinite in regard to Star Wars

And Rian Johnson didn't write TLJ, it was written by Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm Story Group, and Rian Johnson only agreed to direct it in exchange for his own future trilogy.

[@ryanm.8720]

@@ravenwhiteduck6460 And said 'script' is a bootleg Mad Libs book. Each Mad Libs book came from a different author, hence the inconsistencies between the movies.

[@ultra6671]

Come on dude, don't compare JJ Abrams to Jar Jar. For one thing, Jar Jar is the representative of the Gungans and is a known war hero.

[@jackmaney4276]

Poe's decision to trade a handful of bombers to take out a dreadnaught (a "fleet killer", remember) is tactically sound.

[@joeandrew8752]

True but given context it's rather pointless. As explained in the video. Any other ship based on all other material is capable of destroying what is shown as the last of the resistance. There are probably more of those fleet killers anyway, if they can make the supremacy and star killer base then I'm sure they have more than 1 dreadnaught.

[@hassathunter2464]

I mean if they retreated the bombers the dreadnaught would jump and just take them down above Crait instantly. Actually, knowing TLJ its sad that didn't happen.

[@snperman2721]

@@joeandrew8752 Except the context being used is flawed because it is from the perspective of a screenwriter and a viewer. Yes, "we" know that the writers can pull a second one out of hyperspace at the drop of a hat, and generate however much resources they need to make whatever scene they want. But in universe, the characters are operating using logic and tactics that the First order is an opposed faction with actual limitations and resources that take time to move and build. Similarly, the film pointed out that once the land base was destroyed the guns would be turned to the fleet, and it was heavily implied they would be fired upon and likely damaged or destroyed before they would even be able to jump to hyperspace, and only didn't because they became distracted by the oncoming bombers. Now these bombers are incredibly ineffective and useless, so trading them successfully for /any/ large ship is a massive win. I mean, literally one TIE fighter destroyed three of them, what would any of these ships accomplished anywhere else, their existance is a waste. Now while it is true, the other ships could destroy what is left of the resistance as well, it is pointed out that the dreadnaught is far deadlier at much longer range compared to the star destroyers, as seen later in the film when the other ships are "too far away" to do effective damage. Both in the short term and longterm, Poe saved what was left of the resistance. Even if you want to make the argument that they could have escaped if he hadn't engaged, their fleet would have been wiped when they were tracked, ultimately resulting in him having made the correct choice. Poe is punished throughout for making the best choices he could in the situations he was given, until he made a stupid decision to accept the death of the Resistance in the end as "character developement".

[@ryanm.8720]

@@snperman2721 In short, Poe is written to be a reckless strawman who ends up doing more harm than good in the long run, only for the writers to accidently paint him as the most rational character in the movie. It also unintentionally makes Leia look ungrateful for physically attacking him twice, first after he destroyed the Dreadnaught that likely would've killed them all, and later for pulling a mutiny on the (seemingly) traitorous Holdo when the only other option was (seemingly) to patiently wait for death.

[@joeandrew8752]

@Dread StarZ was it known that all first order ships could track though hyper space. It was only shown that the supremacy, snoke's shop, had that tech. Also as others have pointed out before why didn't the fleet just blow up the resistance fleet first and not the bases that was just abandoned? Like I said, given the context the resistance shouldn't even be an issue really, just evil empires being incompetent it seems.

[@benmiller232]

“Unfortunately obi wan didn’t run the training course therefore he couldn’t heal his master” 😂😂😂 that got me

[@64BitsFromHell]

While I'm no massive fan of the Star Wars franchise, I absolutely loved watching this video critique on it -- the hour just flew by watching it. Amazing work!

[@bastiwen]

They should have just taken what was in legends instead of saying it doesn't exist. The story of Luke and Mara Jade's children, the Yuuzhan Vong and all that is WAY better...

[@felagund90]

Thrawn. No need to go for the Vong right away (keep them for later, once your new setting is properly developed). Adjust the Thrawn trilogy to take place 20-30 years after Endor and start from there. An old Grand Admiral comes back from the unknown regions, with a mid-sized but heavily damaged fleet, where he was sent by Palpatine right before Endor to face an unknown threat. His motivations are unknown (did he succeed in his task or is he retreating ?) But he sees the New government as totally unprepared (either to face him, or to face the foes he is retreating from) and decide to take matter into his own hand (either to restore the Empire out of loyalty or to force the new republic to restart the war machine in order to face the unknown threat). As for the force side of things, just assign said grand Admiral an inquisitor or two (who would be no joke anymore seeing that they would have been engaged in battle constantly for the last 25-30 years).

[@xijingpoo7078]

Yes u are fucking right..............it would be 10 times interesting...........but we got this shit (Sorry for my mad english)

[@insanedane2165]

No, they should not. Legends was/is a mess of fan-fic and ridiculous concepts that fit Star Wars just as poorly, if not worse, than the Sequels. I hate what Disney did to the rest of the Skywalker movies, but if they did anything good it was nuking Legends.

[@HFordMCAZ]

The Yuuzhan Vong are the only thing in Star Wars legends that I did not like, yeah I agree that Legends was way better than the whole stupid Sequel Trilogy, but honestly, I felt that the Yuuzhan Vong were a bit out of place, just like the way Kai Leng and Jessica Chobot was out of place in Mass Effect 3. Lol.

[@shepaaaarrrrrd]

I’m not a story writer by any means, but, when TLJ was announced, I was hoping based on the title that it would have been about Luke being the last Jedi because he recognized the value in and necessity of balancing the force within himself, effectively neutralizing and “killing” both the Jedi and the Sith by removing the divide between them. The plot would come from Luke helping Rey achieve that balance within herself, perhaps through the journey of discovery of who Rey’s parents are, the conflicts she faces and the decisions she makes during this journey, and her learning who she is in the process. Then things would end on a positive note a la New Hope with the two of them working together to train force users in Luke’s new balanced philosophy in support of the new republic.

[@json17]

I disagree with one thing: Poe's choice to take out the Dreadnought doesn't get the bombers killed, the bombers, being an incredibly idiotic design would have died in any engagement at all they attempted to carry out.

[@KellogsR-ny7ug]

Not to mention the movie albeit accidentally validates his actions by showing the dreadnaught in action demonstrating its power and leaving us to conclude that if it was there when the supremacy tracks the raddus it would have destroyed the resistance

[@michaeldavis2001]

Has no-one noticed that the First Order recovered from the destruction of Starkiller Base, and now reigns in exactly the amount of time that it takes for Rey to offer Luke his lightsaber at the end of TFA and for Luke to take it from her at the beginning of TLJ? Perhaps Rey being the granddaughter of a genocidal psychopath explains why she falls in love with a genocidal psychopath!

[@SuiSlyder808]

You have gained my automatic respect for being one of the only people who understand how important 21:9 aspect ratio is over fake letterboxes

[@furkota]

Exactly! It's almost a miracle when I see a YT video that's rendered in 21:9. And as a user of an UW monitor I'm so mad that most movies are rendered in 16:9 even though they're (nowadays) mostly in 21:9. Those black bars are horrendous...

[@virusINJUSTICE]

TFA: 1st time watching, felt good but empty. Never wanna watch again TLJ: thank god it's finally finished. What a slog to go thru RoS: what the hell was that mess? It's like rush here, rush there. This rivals Sonic the Hedgehog levels of "gotta go fast"

[@nickytembo4112]

Yeah why didn’t they wait until 2021 for RoS? I don’t get it

[@AlanPadilla13]

I have never heard an opinion soooo in line about how I feel about this movies, unfortunately as of today people who defends them are like a big wall, they take no argument, and it´s sad since even when I´m happy with The Mandalorian, and current projects, all of those narratives end up with Rey having this ammount of power in less than a year, a conflict resolved in the same time. Loved every second of it man, I´m watching more from your videos.

[@virusINJUSTICE]

Oh and why should I care if it's "visually stunning" when I'm not at all invested at the story? People always say that TLJ looks so good. Bah. So what? It's a mess and it sucks

[@viscountrainbows6452]

These same people would eat straight caca if you made it look like a cake, swear to god, lmao

[@someinteresting]

Does it even look so good? I don't think so.

[@virusINJUSTICE]

@@someinteresting they say the Holdo maneuver is "amazing" to look at. So? Did they even pay attention to what they were watching? Cuz i did and i hated every second of it. A "cool" looking scene isn't enough to forgive such an atrociously written story

[@virusINJUSTICE]

@You tube "Fascinating how Johnson is such an atrocious writer with his last three films scoring a 93, 91 and 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. Almost as if internet dwellers are not professional film critics." And? So what if he made 3 films that have scored over 90? Since those 3 films did so well, then TLJ should be good too? I don't know what you're saying and I'm not a professional critic. I'm some guy who's frustrated at how bad TLJ is. "Did you people have a problem with how absurdly lucky Luke was in New Hope when R2 saved them from the trash compactor and how illogical that was?" Yes. Good thing R2 was there. That's some real luck. Oh and that's done to cause tension. Ya know, the thing that makes you concerned for our heroes if they can get out of a predicament? "Or how Luke's plan in return of the Jedi to save Han Solo was a holocaust of idiotic bad decisions? " Yes. Even Yoda was like, "No, Luke" but Luke was like "YES LUKE" it's called being impulsive because God forbid we have a flawless protagonist "Oh right, because narratives are more important than objective facts." I don't know what you just said because I don't care about fancy words such as "narratives" and "objective facts." TLJ is badly written. The story still sucks and you gotta go for 3rd party sources for it to make some sense "At least the Holdo Maneuver had narrative and symbolic weight" Care to explain how it had narrative and symbolic weight when all Holdo did was look at her people die because she couldn't trust Po enough. Ya know, the guy that fights for the Resistance since forever? but nope. Let's not trust this guy and make him look like a raging idiot. "Luke's plan is frivilous and redundant and the New Hope stuff was just plot plot plot" Yup. Plot plot plot. It's like the original trilogy cared a lot about the story huh? "None of it made sense, no person with an IQ above 50 would ever come up with Luke's plan to save Han even when he had a year" no u The whole Disney star wars made no sense at all "the focus of star wars is character drama not plot consistency" Didn't the episode 1 - 6 focused on both though? What are you talking about? 'they only started paying attention in the sequels thanks to the misinformed internet" Nah. A lot of people reacted because the Disney Star Wars trilogy is a mess. Why even call it Star Wars if the characters don't act how they were and made sense in the 6 previous films?

[@galenmarek4582]

@You tube ahh there you are. The fucking idiot from every comment thread

[@nathanperquin9910]

about poe's attack on the dreadnought , i think the idea behind him mentioning it was a fleet killer isnt that it would destroy any fleets of in the future but rather if it had warped along them it would have just picked them off with its long distance cannon right then and there, and getting rid of it meant the chase would have to follow

[@joeandrew8752]

That would make more sense if they knew that the first order could follow them though hyperspace and hence the resistance knew the only chance to survive was to destroy the dreadnaught. They didn't know about the tracker till after.

[@nathanperquin9910]

@@joeandrew8752 mind you this is only an issue because the First order was so incompetent as to first try and shoot down the stuff still on planet that was stuck there rather than the fleeing ships

[@joeandrew8752]

@@nathanperquin9910 I mean everything ship related in that movie wasn't thought out well. Hyperspace ramming, running out of fuel, sending slow bombers when I'm sure missiles would be been better (unless they had no missiles and only bombers ... ). The dreadnaught and it's focus on what to shoot etc etc.

[@nathanperquin9910]

@@joeandrew8752 lets just forget those bombers exist , they are literally worse than useless. and only exist to fuel ryans ww bomber fetishes

[@TwentyPercentDash]

I'm only 17 minutes into the video so far, and I want to say this is a really good critique. I've seen so many hour-long critiques of Star Wars, from critics like Mauler, ER, PSA Sitch, Vito, etc. But you're adding points I've not heard, and you're explaining things in a unique way :)

[@JojoMonReturns91]

Even better is that this review is better than Doomcock's review since he actually stays on topic and not curses to be comedic or to be angry more to the point, DX is basically doing what reviewers should be doing instead of being another Nostalgia Critic, straight and to the point. This was well done.

[@SolariusLunarius]

This is by far the best critique I've ever seen on this trilogy. It is honest, thoughtful and interesting. Each time, you manage to nail down what actually went wrong with the saga, instead of focusing on meaningless plot holes like others who are too focused on Star Wars a universe. When you talk about a plot hole, you don't do it just to say it's a plot hole and therefore bad. You show how this plot hole impacts the stakes of the story and why it damages it. Even I who tend to be rather defensive of the Last Jedi completely agree with your critique. You manage to understand and explain that "desecrating" the character of Luke was not a problem in itself, the problem was what these changes brought to the saga. I'll link to this critique every time I have a debate on the Star Wars sequels. Thank you for this video, it had to be done.

[@SolariusLunarius]

Additionally, I appreciate that you're not trying to say "what" it Star Wars. Some say Star Wars is before all the story of the galaxy, others that it is about family, others that it is about faith, etc. You say that Star Wars is before all a good story, and not a set of tools, which is (in my opinion) the objective truth and the problem that plagues the sequels.

[@BlazinInfernape]

One of my biggest issues with the sequels (and I have a lot of them) is the unoriginal world building. Oh look the Rebe- I mean Resistance is hiding on Yavi- I mean D' Qar. And oh there's Luk- I mean Rey isolated from the galaxy on Tatoo- I mean Jakku. See what I mean? These movies had literally all the money they could possibly need and they decide to have literally 5 grassy/foresty planets (Takodana, D' Qar, Ahch-to, Ajan Kloss, Kef Bir), 2 planets with other great locations but JJ decided to just go with a boring old forest (Starkiller Base, though I prefer to call it Ilum, and Mustafar), and 2 desert planets (Jakku, Passana). One of the reasons I like The Last Jedi more than The Force Awakens is because Rian Johnson gave, in my opinion, the only 2 interesting sequel planets, Cantonica and Crait. Again, all the money in the world and they just gave us places you could find on Earth. I understand the original trilogy had heavy limitations on what it could do but with the prequels George Lucas did everything he could to make his universe interesting and it really payed off.

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

Rian after being handed treatments for 7 8 & 9 from JJ: “The first thing I had to do was figure out why Luke was on the island. I knew it couldn’t be cowardice.” *Makes the reason cowardice* This is like when Kathleen Kennedy said they didn’t have books they could adapt after decannonizing the EU. 😂

[@TwentyPercentDash]

39:22 So far this is the only point I've disagreed with in your video. Finn wasn't being selfish by wanting to leave. There was no reason for him to stay on a ship he believed was doomed, and he was leaving to go make sure Rey was alright. When Finn was slashed by Kylo and knocked unconscious, the last thing he remembers was Rey limp in the snow. When Rose zaps Finn, the message I got from her is: _"We're all in this together whether you like it or not, and you're going to die on this ship just like the rest of us. No escaping is allowed. You have no free will."_