Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker | Review

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker | Review
Review by Roth Cornet & Dan Murrell
Senior Producer: Billy Patterson
Production Coordinator: Ryan O’Toole
Post-Production Supervisor: Emin Bassavand

[@walternate2914]

Kylo Ren's helmet is a metaphor for this trilogy-Force Awakens: "Hey I really want to be like the old Star Wars." Last Jedi: "Destroy this stupid thing!" Rise of Skywalker: "Let's see if I can somehow piece this thing back together..."

[@kadosho02]

Indeed this defines it perfectly

[@drewskull5181]

OMG, Foreshadowing while you're in the middle of the swamps of Dagobah...

[@abboski]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@gregoryw7670]

All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Star Wars-dumpty back together again

[@chrispychickin7358]

Spot on.

[@Nomz05]

Best lines so far: Roth: J.J is servicing himself Dan:I did not like this movie

[@edwardsamson1677]

Less than 5 minutes in and the review is already an instant classic.

[@johnnydi2203]

After three minutes of pretentious lead-in, yes. Refreshing.

[@freman007]

Both Johnson and Abrams were engaging in intense self-pleasuring with their movies.

[@raygrenade1697]

she is a savage for that, ouch !

[@johnpotts8308]

They don't call her Dirty Aunt Roth for nothing!

[@tornay131]

Each movie is a knee jerk reaction to each other. They didn't have a plan, this is what you get. It's very simple.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Think they figured 8 would allow them to have a plan but Kennedy got Rian and derailed the whole thing Episode 9 is good for me. Then again i'm not a bias person.

[@steevrawjers]

tornay131 indeed #disneyhadnoplan

[@jigolocana7492]

tornay131 well they should’ve had a plan, the star wars legends universe had a many contents and materials that they could interpret into canon and somehow change it a bit, and the first movie looked like they had a plan but after that jj i guess had plans but rian rejected it or not but its not that they didn’t have a plan its just terrible idea thats being brought in because the only thing i think in the entire star wars canon universe is that it contradicts itself and lucasfilm story group just keeps explaining it all so yeah they should’ve, it just disappoints me because i had a great expectation that it will be better than the last jedi, but no it was so fast that it is barely breathing after many scenes I didn’t care i just thought that i paid it and i will finish it but the last jedi is good it has great scenes and it had some good storytelling, but the rise of skywalker its just “wut” the fan service tried its best to bring it further but it just fails and the character comes out without any further development there were moments but it didn’t actually help like fin, the first movie never revealed him to be force sensitive but now it is and rose who had a love for fin but now it is gone and rey who still struggles when this should end it while poe it is great he had some of the great story worth telling, many fans including me is disappointed because we were left out unsatisfied , well the movie is great

[@razkable]

she keeps trying to act like rian had a vision and its ok that he did....no he didn't..hes just a hack..he knew he did not have to finish the trilogy and he did not execute his film correctly and they wrote it poorly....its all a F- 0/10......i liked rise of skywalker way more..it ruins anakin/darth vader but its ok otherwise...5.5/10

[@scottnapier943]

Dan and Roth are the best reviewers on KZbin, intelligent civil discourse at it's finest. A proper and honest review. 👍👌

[@siddhantbanerjee3328]

"JJ Abrams is servicing himself" - Roth Cornet, 2019

[@jjenen2010]

“Goddammit” - Roth Cornet, 2019

[@El_oh7199]

That's the most apt description of Abrams as a filmmaker

[@mstoj1386]

Ooof!

[@Emplordxiii]

Hiyoooo!

[@travisspazz1624]

How did they find Luke's lightsaber?! Aaaaahhhhhhhrrrrrrggggg!!

[@DylanDonald]

Dan Murrell: I did not like this movie Me: *grabs popcorn* Well this will be a fun next half hour

[@limberlad]

A true Star Wars holiday special

[@verlinswarey507]

Dylan Donald -Yep!

[@vandorpemichael]

Sounds really good, I'm excited to see it!

[@onsokumaru4663]

The Dan guy is straight forward about his feelings about this movie. His woman host keeps on beating around the bush about how she feels about this movie, instead she keeps on giving us a lecture in film.

[@movieace1295]

just saw it.. reminded me of last 2 seasons of GoT

[@watchthisnow2865]

"macguffin Russian doll" Roth always slipping the best lines in 😂

[@ieatgremlins]

This should be trending at #1. These two deserve a wider audience.

[@iloveibanez92]

They have 1.5 mil subs. That's a pretty wide audience 😂. But I love them too!

[@viksaggu9085]

Jeremy Jains was trending no.1

[@siddhantbanerjee3328]

True. I love both of them individually as reviewers, but them bouncing off of each other is even better

[@mj7087]

Dan simply tweeting out "Yikes" earlier today is peak film critique

[@ArthurKnight1899]

That goes on DVD cover!

[@COLINHILLSWIMS]

Why don’t they put Dan’s face on the thumbnail. They really mess up with the generic film poster thumb nail.

[@frankjaeger2659]

Roth is tough to listen too, Jesus her voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Thank god Dan is here

[@Kasabora]

I liked this just to be number 666

[@nelsonhoffman5922]

Succinct

[@dfletchersoul]

Dan's right. They had no plan whatsoever.

[@notme222]

That was obvious from the last movie. I was surprised Dan was defending Kathleen Kennedy all this time.

[@IcyScythe]

Which is hard to fathom considering this is the biggest franchise ever and the sheer amount of money involved. How could they plan it so poorly?

[@rc100692]

IcyScythe because lots of people will see it regardless. Sometimes Disney just needs to take the creative approach, spend more time and effort to make better movies. Its a good thing Marvel and Kevin Figie were already making the MCU when Disney bought it. Otherwise it would be as incoherent as this trilogy.

[@minakokic602]

I think there was a story in the news in late 2017 where JJ said he was going to be pitching his Episode 9 to Lucasfilm. If there had been a plan for this trilogy that meeting would not need to happen.

[@toufiq309]

Well whatever plan or foundation of a plan they had Ruin johnson fucked it in the ass causing irreparable damage to the trilogy.

[@toppaepps3664]

Dan: I did not like this movie Me: This is where the fun begins

[@ValeYard13]

Toppa Epps now this is podracing!

[@acWeishan]

It was a crap movie Plain and simple Star War had 2 good movies out of NINE??? I think HOPE really was more a defining characteristic of the fans more than the movie characters...

[@jedibrolo3551]

@@acWeishan Let's Face It George Lucas Was Right; "⭐️ Wars Is Officially 💀" 😂

[@siretonhog9459]

“I felt nothing.” - Dan

[@chupcook]

Dan: This is the worst script for any star wars movie...ever. Oof.

[@danielmillward9947]

It is written by the writer of bvs and justice league so 😂

[@AnthonyLewis1981]

I'm not so sure. I cant imagine this being worse than the bungling of the Vader origin. TROS might be jumbled but it can't be written worse than that.

[@danielmillward9947]

@@AnthonyLewis1981 yeah the prequels are room level acting and dialogue despite the acting talent in it 😂

[@sudevsen]

It was terrio-ble

[@MrBurns-fq2xf]

Anthony Lewis prequels are already better than the new trilogy. Give me a break

[@hawks5999]

“It’s just one of the hundreds of movies that came out this year.” That’s Star Wars now.

[@Kris_AB]

That's Star Wars for a LOT of people, and has been, for years before the new trilogy. I see the new ones, I know the franchise is important to a lot of people, but they're just more blockbusters that're better-on-the-big-screen films to have fun with. I always hope they're good. Them saying that Oscar Isaac plays the best character in the film is huge for me. He's amazing (exception: as Apocalypse in X-Men).

[@alexsilva28]

Thank you Disney, very cool!

[@viksaggu9085]

Someone said “ it’s just a science fiction movie, and that’s a problem.” I totally loved that quote because science fiction and Star Wars is different in a way

[@viksaggu9085]

Elliepopcorn I think TFA gets a pass for being a bit copy paste because they had to keep 3 different generations of SW fans.

[@afif5496]

It used to be special

[@nitpoon7982]

BABY YODA is the only hope left in the star wars universe

[@osarsaph]

Exactly! and only if John Favreau is involved....

[@ThaJFromDaA]

wake up. there is no hope

[@nitpoon7982]

@@ThaJFromDaA dont let fall of pukewalker get ya down BABY YODA IS THE WAY

[@megagnura7804]

And clone wars season 7

[@jamielee4911]

This sounds like a star wars funeral in which nobody wants to say anything bad about the deceased....

[@razkable]

she keeps trying to protect rian johnson but he did not create star wars...lucas did....if lucas decided to make a trilogy about changing the formula with one big story planned ahead of time like he did with the prequels then i am all for it..differentiate the trilogies...don't expect the old star wars yes lucas... .rian is just a hack who subverts just to do so with no plan and poor execution..he shat on fans...that made him money...he deserved all the backlash he got....big franchise fanbases do not like to be told we were wrong for liking a thing and for expecting certain things we expect to happen like to see luke be cool or poe to be useful or finn to have an arc over 3 films not 1.5 or for the big bad to survive to the end not be killed off and ect...plus all the wokeness hate on white male stuff going on in that film kills me...luke is ruined cause hes a white male heroic figure...they turned him from optimist to pessimist for no reason and its explained poorly...just so rey can change his mind?...its so dumb and ruins his character

[@hinrei1986]

Jeremy Jahns: I'm not going to remember The Rise of Skywalker in T minus 1 day...... Yep, already forgot.

[@LoganBluth]

Which is ironic because people will be complaining about this movie for YEARS. Sorry Jeremy, but no one is EVER going to let you forget about this movie. Haha

[@UNOTBOSS16]

@Dylan Drummond honestly thats cause of the vader cameo, rogue one wasnt great either. Better than this shit, but not great.

[@hulkhogansgianttaint9451]

@Dylan Drummond Rogue One is the best one of the Disney Films. TFA was ok. The rest is 💩.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

@Dylan Drummond His least favorite episodic SW movie

[@MovieManReviews]

JJ Abrams: Embrace the past Rian Johnson: Forget the past Me: Both?

[@noahreisner5199]

forget the past WAS NOT the theme of that movie, Kyla Ren is the badguy like common.

[@mj7087]

Embrace the vague idea of a past

[@lonewandererfo3]

Forget the embrace!

[@SimonBuchanNz]

"I have no idea what this is, but it's warm and fuzzy!"

[@rhisands2063]

Forget the past, kill it if you have to... that was the Taliban and ISIS' motto when they were blowing up acheological sites in the Middle East and also the Godwinated One's when he was having books burned in 1930s Germany. So if you are saying that, then you might want to think about what company that puts you in. Embrace the past, celebrate it, and work with its legacy to build on it.

[@juanmanuelhornos869]

This is the kind of review I like. It's perfectly respectful of everybody, no hating just for the sake of hating. Congrats, its always a pleasure to visit this channel

[@asifrahaman8529]

So basically they should’ve just let JJ Abrams make the entire trilogy. Regardless of it being bad or not this way it would’ve at least been connected somewhat

[@allbboss]

Cohesive is the word you're looking for.

[@asifrahaman8529]

Roc Thanks

[@michaelkelly2783]

Exactly

[@viksaggu9085]

Asif Rahaman exactly. Like look at Lord of the Rings. It’s one epic 3 movie adventure that all connects

[@alizaidi2893]

Not really, remeber that OT all had different directors just one focused vision

[@GenKraid]

"No time to breathe." You've just described every JJ Abrams movie. "Apathy."

[@Dave_L913]

Flashbacks to Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness. So fast you can't keep up with the "what?" plot holes. But after the movie is over...

[@GenKraid]

@@Dave_L913 My thoughts exactly. I think that is the worst (best) example.

[@ddm62571]

@@Dave_L913 Nobody talked about plot holes then. Movie was also rated high with critics and the public. Just saying

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

@@ddm62571 People have always talked about plot holes, it's not some new thing.

[@ddm62571]

@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 The word "Plot Holes" never was brought up in anything 20 years ago. Seems to be the thing to say now.

[@IKIGAIofficial]

goooood. let the hate flow through you.

[@yippykiyay89]

This made me burst out laughing

[@jasonjones3694]

@@yippykiyay89 me too😂😂

[@TheArtman2023]

I can feel your anger. Goooood.

[@cjg3496]

IKIGAI You are all fools

[@ohawwgeez3112]

Yes, yes, DARKNEEEESS!

[@chompo14lastname41]

Come off the fence , Dan Do you like it or not ?!?! 😂😂😂

[@SmartypantsTutoring]

“Kill the past!” For the love of Space Jesus, it was the villain who said that! And he couldn’t let go of the past. As soon as he saw Luke, he dropped the ball for a tactical win because he could’t let go of the past. Let the past inform, but don’t be beholden to it.

[@gregoryw7670]

“Right now SW is not about storytelling”. That pretty much sums it up. No coherent plot, no char development, no world-building.

[@jeremygreen5230]

I feel like The Mandalorian has done a good job of building characters... I mean, I feel more connected to a guy in a helmet whose face the audience hasnt seen yet, than I do with any of these characters from these new films.

[@wizzrob3]

Couldn't have said it better. The last two movies didn't seem to be heading anywhere nor have any general theme so I don't have any expectations for this one.

[@aidancarney6315]

You aren’t necessarily wrong, but I think you may have missed what Roth meant.

[@LordVader1094]

@@jeremygreen5230 And it's actually all leading to something meaningful in the story.

[@davidward5445]

No character development? Really? These are far from perfect films but I 💯 was invested in these characters. JJ did a great job of doing that with force awakens for me. I really enjoyed this film. It was fun. Basically only issue is that JJ should have done whole thing so it was more consistent.

[@JustinHo98]

Non spoiler review: *is 30 minutes long Me: ooo this should be good

[@haydengarinduchesne9269]

Haven’t seen this yet so I will reserve judgment , but from the little I’ve heard so far the census so far appears to be what I was most concerned about going in .

[@johanabartuskova3565]

milo bans I don’t know what you were concerned about of course, but I know what I was concerned about among with most of people I know and.... yep. “Yikes” pretty much sums it up.

[@haydengarinduchesne9269]

Johana Bartušková sorry really should have mentioned it course correction

[@DubsBrown]

Remember when TV: Star Trek good Star Wars Bad Movie: Star Wars good Star Trek Bad Yeah it’s opposite now

[@samuelhedlund4852]

DubsBrown Star Wars shows were never bad

[@user-by7we5ol6v]

this triliogy felt like the game of telephone. Kathleen Kennedy tells a story to JJ Abrams and he makes Force Awakens, then it goes to Rian Johnson where you get Last Jedi. Once JJ Abrams gets the Last Jedi, he's got to decide what to do with it.

[@Cybernautz]

I’m feeling like Yoda during order 66 after watching all these reviews.

[@rajarajanmanoharan]

IKR?!

[@CaptainBlaine]

So you were surprised by this? After TLJ, there was no chance for this movie.

[@keystorm8598]

Someone needs to make a meme of this. LMAO

[@shaundavidssd]

If into the cinema you go only pain and suffering will you find....

[@geekazores253]

😂

[@Phelie315]

"What if I end up liking Cats more than Star Wars" seems like a strong possibility at this point and I'm counting down to the Cats review 😂

[@thelaughingrouge]

"We don't want to ruin anyone's fun." We'll let the movie do that.

[@hatezis]

This movie felt like they've made a season of a tv show, then put together 10 minutes of every episode into a movie

[@steevrawjers]

First34 true and then it turned out to be really boring and loud

[@Creech786]

Dan: "I did not like this movie." This video should've ended right there.

[@TajCars]

Creech786 yeah because dang I thought Dan was going to croak over

[@xvs8675]

*Star Wars Theme BLASTS--* "DUUUUUN DUHN DUHN DUUUN....!!!"

[@mukithyder]

Jeremy: I felt nothing Dan: I felt nothing Oh boy we're gonna feel the sadness & disappointment

[@jimedward6050]

Don’t let these guys sway you! Form you’re own opinion

[@Tookieslam]

Saw it yesterday, so disappointed that I also felt nothing by the end of it.

[@TheEldritchGod]

Can YOUUUUU feeeel The APATHY tooo-night?

[@lisamortini8567]

I felt nothing either... :-(

[@diiii_mond]

I felt pain...because it was so bad. I tried so hard to like it but I just couldn’t man.

[@madeyez]

George Lucas DID gave them a road map. Disney chose to ignore it.

[@nikosvault]

Lucas also had a road map for the prequels. Still sucked.

[@jordanl1578]

nikosvault Roadmap for the prequels was brilliant but the execution sucked. Had they used George’s ideas and let other directors/writers execute them it would’ve been the perfect storm...

[@npop5270]

The Force Awakens - Meh, I felt nothing The Last Jedi - Meh, I felt nothing The Rise of Skywalker - I don't care already even before if I am going to see it. Jumanji wins again.

[@sd4285]

jumanji was ok, not as good as original jumanji.

[@chasemcdaniel3620]

My favorite star wars moment? Bill Burr screaming "GET THAT BLASTER OUTTA MY FACE MANDO!" Star Wars Boston needs to be cannon....

[@libbybarr4844]

A half hour non spoiler review?!? Dan stated his opinion so strongly and to the point, after Roth giving a nuanced long train of thought, I just laughed out loud.

[@cenobitecenobite7380]

Maguffin Russian doll is a phrase I’ll be stealing

[@starwarsfourlife8790]

Star Wars should do what X-men did, just act like they don’t exist.

[@Bustaperizm]

I think they will.

[@FlagCutie]

Who would've thought we'd be back in sequel territory right?

[@viksaggu9085]

Bustaperizm haha who’s Rey? What Luke you’ve always been alive!!

[@carlgionet5414]

the new triology goes with the christmas special

[@erikcastaneda3154]

Dan is OFFENDED by this movie and it’s hilarious

[@venividivici2990]

TLJ was an objectively horrible film that split the fan base and which TROS will thankfully retcon. It will make Luke’s behavior more understandable. Only the predictable societal malcontents liked it, because - like them - it was inherently subversive and destructive in nature. It seems the subversive malcontents like these reviewers didn’t like it because it was actually Star Wars and not a nihilistic revelatory exposition of personal disenchantment like TLJ was. Just about every reviewer you read who hates the finale loved TLJ. This is good news.

[@simonegreco1958]

@B Sa You might say it's a bad Star Wars narrative. But a badly made movie? No.

[@RonnieBarzel]

Dan's offended, but not quite to the level Joe was with "Dark Phoenix" during that Honest Trailers Commentary.

[@daniellara7564]

Veni VidiVici 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Wipeoutzone1]

The movie is rushed and left me feeling nothing for it, the ending scenes were cool but could have had a better build up.

[@RyanToxopeus]

Dan: "The worst script for any Star Wars movie ever." Oh crap.

[@travisspazz1624]

That's saying something comparing to that horrible Lucas prequel dialogue!!

[@RyanToxopeus]

@@travisspazz1624 Seriously. I'm HOPING Dan is being hyperbolic... but he doesn't seem like the type to exaggerate. Guess I'll find out for myself this weekend!

[@bethperforms6191]

I honestly find that hard to believe. The dialogue in the prequels is SO BAD. Do we have to quote the sand line? “Ani, you’re breaking my heart!”

[@bethperforms6191]

Ok never mind. He qualified the statement-it’s not the worst in terms of DIALOGUE, but in terms of story. I still think that the first prequel is REALLY bad in terms of story structure/creative ideas AND in terms of dialogue. Second two are better in terms of story but the writing is TERRIBLE. And tonally they’re all a mess. It’s like politics but it’s for kids but it’s poop jokes but it’s pod racing but it’s...what again? Anyway.

[@hiimchrisj]

@@travisspazz1624 He specifically says not in terms of dialog

[@ivann9322]

I like how everyone is doing spoiler free reviews as if we actually care about the plot being spoiled at this point LOL

[@steevrawjers]

ivann9322 true lol

[@YohXoX]

I dont remember what the plot even was

[@pragmaticcynicism6911]

Haha, if RLM released a video spoiling episode X right now, I'd click in two seconds.

[@Tentarek]

The Game of Thrones fans are feeling some intense deja vu right now.

[@dimitra2742]

Game of Thrones S08 is do much better than this!!!

[@Jvksiew]

After the mess of Skywalkers trilogy, it makes me appreciate the coherent storytelling of MCu even more.

[@josesarango3408]

the MCU is far superior to Star Wars sequel trilogy (so far...)

[@skater0224]

Makes me appreciate the prequels more

[@ML-yn9yu]

@@skater0224 alot more people are finally coming around to it. Welcome

[@ButcherofRagol]

There is only one review on just about every movie that I watch. Spoiler: Its the Screen Junkies one.

[@vijayvr]

Ok... I'll be the 70th like! And... "Same here"

[@lemmypop1300]

For me it's mostly Red Letter Media... But Screen Junkies are also OK. Collider is to be avoided at all costs.

[@jokarpinski22]

Crazy because SJ and Collider both destroyed this movie and they are typically referred to as the "shill" reviewers. I guess it was REALLY REALLY that bad then.

[@ButcherofRagol]

Wow, I didn't realize my comment would be more popular than Rise of Skywalker.

[@Str4vv]

Sounds like GoT Season 8. Bad, bad fan service, story threads go nowhere, tone is messed up and an overall disappointment.

[@waywardmind]

"I felt nothing. And that's new for me." Oh my god. JJ Abrams broke Dan Murrell.

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

*Rian Johnson*

[@kerynl.sanchez9891]

Literally, I felt NOTHING

[@ir1041]

Rian Johnson sent three main characters on a half-hour long trip to some casino world that had zero affect on the plot. That is all.

[@alvaroa.4334]

Yet he's regarded so "bold and different" lol that was trash

[@nathanrath2844]

All to make some stupid point about capitalism. In a star wars movie

[@kwakud.2485]

Roth did a lot of explaining for Mr. Rian Johnson

[@srfrid]

At the end of Last Jedi, Rey, a Star Wars fan that got inspired narratively and character wise by Luke, asks Luke not to lose hope. Luke retorts, look at fucking Kylo Ren, look at the toxicity of the Star Wars fan base. A fan base that bullied the kid from phantom menace out of acting because they didn’t like him. A fan base that sent death threats and bullied George Lucas. A fan base that bullied, through racism, Boyega and the Asian actress. A fan base that loses their collective shit over fucking Mediclorians (however it’s spelled). Luke has given up and regrets his legend for it has brought hate rather than hope and vitriol rather than love. Rey says no. Rey says, your legend made me. That little girl that loves dressing and swinging her lightsaber was her. The little girl that grew up and now other new young fans look up to. Rey convinces Luke that his legend is worth it and that it matters and that he should continue to live up for that legend. Luke agrees and makes himself a new legend. The movie ends with a boy, a nobody, looking up to the starts embracing the force and looking up for the day he inherits a new story. It’s the last Jedi perfect? No. Is it stupid at times? Yes. But it’s still one of the best Star Wars movies. It’s the movie the franchise deserved and it needed. The franchise was absurdly stale, and it did the same thing that COD and Assassins Creed continue to do: repeat and do nothing. You, “fans”, couldn’t resist to be idiots and bullies. Good job. Take a class and learn literature analysis, film studies, and writing cuz you clearly don’t know writing.

[@Revanbzn]

That was too long he could have cut the chase in half

[@shortznig2938]

Dan went straight to the point

[@bradcarpenter1881]

itzz_anime yep unlike this woman that literally talked in circles on and on and barely brushing up against her points without making her points lol

[@joesinthishouse914]

The KZbin algorithm just recommended this show and I couldn't be happier. I've never heard of these guys but I'm def. going to subscribe. They have really good chemistry (but you all already know that). Glad to be here to watch their reviews.

[@sangmoon2464]

The Mandalorian shows how to do fan service and yet do satisfying storytelling. It could be the equivalent of two or three movies. Not coincidentally, the writer is Jon Favreau who had as much responsibility in starting the MCU as Kevin Feige. It is obvious that Favreau is a fan of Star Wars and understood what Star Wars fans wanted and yet was able go in new and satisfying directions. He understands character development and using special effects to support that development.

[@ahmademil2611]

Yes!

[@Qwazin]

"I felt nothing." -Dan Murrell lmao

[@TinnedWaffles]

Oophhhh hearing that Jeremy Jahns review too. Bombarding the audience with so much shit, they forgot to give a single moment any gravitas

[@erica22595]

Not even rage?!?!

[@LordVader1094]

@@erica22595 Nope. Rage was for the Last Jedi. Now it's simply apathy.

[@R4F10]

Feeling nothing is worse than disliking the movie , Bc that means nothing was interesting 😂

[@talanock]

wow a lot of reviewers across youtube that have had tons of differant opinions in the past seem to all agree that this movie just isn't good

[@Hieillua]

just watch Blindwave absolutely loving it lol. (they are a yt channel that LOVES Star Wars to crazy degrees and will never be negative about anything about it)

[@lsdesignweb]

In the past the studio had more influence, so when TFA and TLJ came out, upsetting the studio was an element some of them took in account specially the big ones, but after TLJ, and the really bad way LucasFilm KK address the backlash of TLJ made some YT channels to be more careful of blatantly shilling, so what we a seeing its what should have happened after TLJ a thoughtful critique

[@ddm62571]

Because it's easier to criticize Star Wars after The Last Jedi

[@smurfette_blues7922]

Yep.

[@Andzen]

Apparently nobody told Rian Johnson it was a trilogy.

[@argelisplanchart9438]

This movie is the most entertaining film I've haven't watched.

[@iciajay6891]

"Star War's is a trap" yup.

[@egoborder3203]

Palpatine: "Use your hatred" Dan: "I feel nothing"

[@skater0224]

egoBorder lol

[@RealTechnoPanda]

Did JJ ever had a roadmap for anything he does? Look at "Lost" and "Star Trek". He is a hack

[@jimmyboydonald6578]

You might be disappointed to hear about the huge multi million deal he has with Warner Bros coming up.

[@FlagCutie]

"There's a moment that should've shattered us, but it didn't get time to breathe." So true! It was like the destruction of Asgard all over again!

[@saltygrasshopper]

Everything has proceeded as the fandom menace has foreseen.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

@@jc_3679 No, it's a good thing. It means people have woken up.

[@trajanthegreat2928]

Just as the spiders foretold

[@hindsightpov4218]

7:46 Dan: “I think that this trilogy showed a complete lack of overall creative direction.” - I’ve been screaming that since The Last Jedi. 😒

[@plo617]

I've been screaming that since TFA

[@Konghiphop]

Let's be honest. The last Jedi was pretty creative.

[@yippykiyay89]

@@Konghiphop creatively shit*

[@hindsightpov4218]

Konghiphop I liked The Last Jedi. I hated The Force Awakens. We were hyped with a super secretive script only to get a rehash of A New Hope? Disappointment doesn’t adequately describe what I felt while watching it in theaters.

[@crowley582]

Konghiphop the issue with these movies is too many damn characters to give everyone a story. Last Jedi’s flaw is the Finn/Rose mission. Initial saga is more focused.

[@vka4598]

They give a character an item because internet....Someone is giving Chewie A certain something I guess?

[@lukefrederiks5906]

Rise of Skywalker sounds like a World of Warcraft quest chain that never ends

[@MWeistra]

"Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker is the most disappointing thing since Star Wars Episode 8... and my son." I can hear it already.

[@antwanscott97]

No, their review is gonna be EPIC

[@intense79nick]

His son, Rian Johnson?

[@elliotbecker6769]

Goddam it, at least say Spoiler Alert!

[@MWeistra]

@@elliotbecker6769 ? What do you mean? Spoiler alert about what?

[@FlyfishermanMike]

Very cool! I clapped when I saw the falcon!

[@bl6knt]

I guess, in the end, the Mandalorians actually win the war in Star Wars.

[@jokarpinski22]

By hiding in the shadows, they most certainly do. This is the way.

[@cjg3496]

John Carlos There is another clone wars

[@iamjigzzy]

This is the way.

[@MarvellousHeroicSupers]

Ironic, The Mandalorians did in fact have Wars in the Extended universe and won several battles. Especially, in the Old republic trilogy when Revan and the Jedi Order stopped the Mandalorians rampage

[@Tyler_W]

Clone Wars season 7 will likely be great as well

[@BrandonGiordano]

Dan: "I did not like this movie" Boom roasted.

[@budthecyborg4575]

To be fair, Dan dislikes a lot of stuff that the average person can still enjoy. Jurassic World is my second favorite movie in that franchise. Fallen Kingdom is also my LEAST favorite movie in that franchise. Some movies are very well produced and simple, not a cinematic masterpiece, but very enjoyable. Fallen Kingdom does NOT follow the formula set out by Jurassic World either, that franchise actually shares a lot of the same problems as the new Star Wars trilogy. It'll be interesting to see what happens with JW3 and if the parallel continues to the end.

[@thegreyinitiate3680]

A character is given something for no other reason than the fact that people have been talking about it on the internet for years: Ma boi Chewie gonna finally be gettin his medal 😂

[@iprotabori]

It was so earned. I cheered and yanked my brothers arm.

[@jsummer6390]

Jeremy Jahns and Dan are the same boat which means I’m out

[@conorleddy8085]

J Summer form your own opinion

[@zaltmanbleroze]

@@conorleddy8085 or save your money and watch it on disney + or at a friends place.

[@theunicornsrock]

@@conorleddy8085 i mean, when your opinion consistently lines up with someone elses and they have an opinion it is somewhat likely that it'll match up with your opinion. I think its pretty reasonable

[@aprilperrault9438]

I usually agree with Dan on movies. I respectfully disagree this time. I enjoyed it very much. Yes, it was a bit fan service at times. But I liked it. But we all like different things.

[@jsummer6390]

Yeah I rather not waste 2 & half hours of my life and 12 dollars for “meh”

[@litcrit1624]

Dan the Jedi: “I felt nothing.”

[@TajCars]

Lit Crit 😂😂😂

[@aidancarney6315]

Best line in the review

[@ddm62571]

Me with The Last Jedi, I felt anger!

[@michaelj7069]

These trilogies had nothing to offer the Star Wars lore. Sometimes just leaving something alone is best. To me, Star Wars will always end at Return of the Jedi.

[@LuqqApple]

Too bad cause Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars film..

[@davidkane6145]

@@LuqqApple I'm sure he means chronologically. The story in the prequels are good, they're just bad movies (well the first two, anyway).

[@eddmaster9]

Does that includes the prequels?

[@theshiddler1640]

Had they chosen to keep Snoke alive and reveal him as Plageuis, I feel like the trilogy could have been much stronger, while simultaneously linking the entire saga in a more satisfying manner

[@steevrawjers]

Baynos I feel that This trilogy could have been much stronger had they Not Made it at all

[@sheevpalpatine9487]

I think that was J.Js plan but The Last Jedi ruined it

[@sp00kyghost21]

This movie was so busy apoligizing for the last movies that it forgot to be its own movie.

[@KawaiiNancy]

🤯

[@Laiser]

And who's fault is that with all the hyperbolic negative backlash? Fans were so ready to rip the movie apart that anyone who liked the movie is according to them is a 'shill'. The trilogy was going along fine from Force Awakens, but now...

[@LordVader1094]

@@Jealod24 I wonder why... couldn't be that the Last Jedi reverted everything JJ planned... that can't be it.

[@LordVader1094]

@@Laiser Lol no it wasn't. This movie was shit because the Last Jedi threw away what the Force Awakens was building towards. It's simple. Gotta love that ACTUAL shills like you will find any reason to blame the fans, instead of the actual people in charge.

[@jonnnney]

@@Jealod24 The Mandalorian is doing just fine and has the exact same fanbase. So no, the random assholes on the internet didn't cause the movie to fail. The movie caused the movie to fail.

[@ArthurKnight1899]

"Starwars is a trap! It's a trap!" We have just come around in a full circle didn't we?

[@louisaa9861]

sometimes i just watch dan and it strikes me how incredibly *smart* he is

[@beckytwigg610]

Disney hired one man who couldn't write a plot to save his life and another man who writes nothing but plot and setup.

[@Jetmech145]

So what they are saying is stay home and watch the LOTR trilogy. Got it!

[@ByakuyaKB]

Jetmech145 that's what the holiday season is meant for

[@roesler]

You know, you could stay home and watch the prequels and it would STILL be a better use of your time.This movie sucked. Bad.

[@tcu1099]

I anticipated this review more than the movie. Is that wrong?

[@kbg12ila]

Its right. Its so right. Don't worry my child.

[@tcu1099]

kbg12ila this movie is getting savaged by most, but Dan and Roth never disappoint

[@tcu1099]

Uh yeah... Just got out of this movie. Spending 30 mins with Dan and Roth is far more rewarding.

[@yarn7130]

Dan nailed it. I felt pandered to. It has great moments, but JJ firmly had his finger on that nostalgia button.

[@ambidexterity1]

"One thing you cannot question is that he loves star wars" Oh, I question it alright.

[@hansok77]

"But the final shot of the movie was so good" is the main argument I'm hearing from reviewers who are giving the movie a pass.

[@pitui1987]

Ryan Kowalski You mean where characters A and D and together, with no sign of characters B and C, and no explanation why D is with A instead of with C, and in a location that means nothing to any of the characters, especially X and Y, but is only there because it’s significant to the audience? That final shot? Spoilers, I guess.

[@charlesliu6580]

Too bad we already saw it in 1977, 2005, and 2017.

[@davidkane6145]

@@charlesliu6580 1999 and 2002 aswell

[@thescapegoatmechanism8704]

Dan: And now, your coming together is your undoing.

[@englandsensation]

I really wanted to see a real sequel to the LTJ.

[@MaiiOrduna]

9:05 Impossible to satisfy SW fans? Um, hello? The Mandalorian?

[@CrimsonCharan]

It's only pleasing everyone because nobody knows anything about it. Give it a 2 or 3 more seasons and people will start bitching about character arcs,lore,etc. Knowing this fanbase, that's almost certainly going to happen. But who knows, I could be wrong. Maybe Faverau can pull it off.

[@Znobishtucon]

The thoroughness of this review without spoilers is a testament to the intellect and integrity of Dan and Roth. Two of the finest cultural analysts working in media today, no hyperbole. No joke.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

End result: Biggest, incontrovertible problem with Last Jedi is it didn't set anything up for ROS. It's like Rian Johnson wanted to make a complete film and end it there.

[@laughingatnothing4642]

It was wrong to give him the middle part of this saga. He ends strong like in breaking bad his episodes are the ones with near perfect conclusions. J J Abrams on the other hand is a more of a style over substance kinda film maker and is a bad choice for a concluding film.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

@@laughingatnothing4642 You're right. They should have reversed it.

[@Revanbzn]

Or just jj all of the, and be done with it

[@marius4iasi]

@@laughingatnothing4642 JJ Abrams is a clone of Michael Bay.

[@connorsiedow5815]

Rian really should have been given episode 9.

[@shannonjackson9778]

I've never even seen star wars but I like to watch these reviews anyway just to hear Dan and Roth talk about movies

[@BoyanDimitrov]

Actually guys you're underselling yourselves from the get go. Yours is the second review I'm watching (I waited to first see the movie) and the one I watched before yours is a third the length which is literally the only reason it went first. I enjoy your reviews above literally all else on the Internet! You have a unique perspective of actually talking about the film you're reviewing instead of just giving an opinion one way or the other. Keep up the amazing work! PS Roth it's great to have you back being more actively on the channel. I know you're busy producing awesome content all the time I'm just saying it's nice to see you and hear your thoughts :)

[@WriterusAeternus]

Dan: I'll just watch TFA and pretend the sequels didn't happen. Me: I'll just watch TROJ and pretend the sequels never happened.

[@RohitRajput-iw5yd]

Bro for me the cannon is just now ep 1-6, the clone wars, rebels, rogue one and Jedi fallen order

[@WriterusAeternus]

Rohit Rajput same. ROS is now 53% on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't always agree with critics but that's pretty bad for a SW movie.

[@inghell]

NOMO FOMO sequels and prequels screw them both. The original trilogy is lightning in a bottle, trying to recapture that magic has been the greatest downfall.

[@jamesmiley6146]

Franchise should have ended in the 80s

[@casualsuede]

I agree, the prequels were cringey and over cgi'd, but this sequel series was just bad filmmaking.....from two filmmakers I like.

[@GuzziHeroV50]

Roth's opening statement, her sensible breakdown of this movie and the series as a whole, immediately won me as a subscriber.

[@josephleiber9879]

GuzziHero same. Instant fan

[@alondob]

I’m saddened that this last installment is so poorly received but I saw it coming. You only get one nostalgia play and they used it up on The Force Awakens.

[@allbboss]

Nostalgia is all they got - no creative vision whatsoever.

[@alizaidi2893]

Member????

[@keving2115]

Last Jedi was utter garbage. Rise of Skywalker did worst apparently. Damn.

[@timbomania8535]

You can`t build anything on a pile of crap...It`s going to sink. I just saw it and it did sink

[@eddmaster9]

For me The Last Jedi is worst. Rise of Skywalker doesn't make sense from the very beginning and that's because The Last Jedi departed from what was set in The Force Awakens...

[@JimmyBoots1986]

The only notification I'll click faster than this is the Cats review.

[@zbh9268]

"There were claps." *RLM laughs in the background*

[@Bruinsbigestbear]

Very cool!

[@nathanjs55]

As always, I’m 10 times more excited for their review than the movie itself. I guess that’s the one silver lining.

[@WilliamHerrold]

I'm glad I watched this before seeing the movie. Probably helped my viewing experience greatly. Dan and Roth are easily my favorite reviewers to watch and listen to and I'm always delighted when they are both there for a review.

[@andrewsasala6841]

These two have a great dynamic and it’s clear they really love Star Wars so this discussion works really well! A great watch!

[@Rodman200818]

Lets be honest, tfa was not actually a well written story either, and it also included random items to be chased to keep plot moving along and characters that pop in and out and are irrelevant. The problems started here already. But there are good sides too and I enjoyed the experience. I hope I enjoy this movie experience too, even if the writing ultimately isn’t good upon further analysis/thought - somewhat like Roth seems to have experienced.

[@genx-tv]

Yes, it wasn't a great story, but at least it left some intrigue and had set ups for the next one. TLJ didn't set up anything. And it didn't move the story forward. And one thing you can't do is have a middle that builds up nothing. The middle story is the one that binds everything together. I will go to the Rise of Skywalker, and hope they will make a special 3 hour edition with more scenes to flesh out the story for Disney plus.

[@baskkev7459]

@@genx-tv tlj did what tfa should have done ( if the mission was to break with the past)

[@Clintdaddy412]

Tfa wasn't great but it was something you could build on Rey handing Luke the lightsaber was exciting and what did we wait for just for Luke to throw it over his shoulder just like Disney threw away a great opportunity to make a awesome trilogy 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Rodman200818]

You'll notice I didn't mention TLJ, that was purposeful. I was merely commenting on Dan's opinion TFA being well written -- it wasn't. What TFA did have was enough potential for a coherent through-line and characters to last 3 episodes (cool tone and a few scenes aside). The biggest sin of TLJ is not only that it didn't set up anything (then we could just ignore it), but the active subversion/sabotage of any semblance of coherent plot and character development without intrinsic value. Tall order to fix that, and by sound of this review, ultimately lead to a mess of a plot without much depth. Despite all that, I hope there is enough to be satisfying.

[@genx-tv]

@@baskkev7459 Yes, but then Rian should have made the first movie of the trilogy, not the second. The second one, the middle, builds everything up and is the glue. If you already made a movie like TFA, best is to set aside your ego and simply build from what the first guy set up. There is still plenty of room to be creative! In the end, it would have been best to have the last two movies made by the same director, so that the remaining story can be spread out accordingly, be it JJ or Rian.

[@devonbiehn6249]

Hold on to your butts

[@christiangisborne9011]

Devon Biehn LEGO MOVIE

[@SuttyNotSooty]

COVER THE WHAT?!

[@venividivici2990]

TLJ was an objectively horrible film that split the fan base and which TROS will thankfully retcon. It will make Luke’s behavior more understandable. Only the predictable societal malcontents liked it, because - like them - it was inherently subversive and destructive in nature. It seems the subversive malcontents like these reviewers didn’t like it because it was actually Star Wars and not a nihilistic revelatory exposition of personal disenchantment like TLJ was. Just about every reviewer you read who hates the finale loved TLJ. This is good news.

[@IftiAlam1999]

I don't think we should fully blame the studio. It's mostly upto the director's competence. Russos are more competent storytellers than Abrams, and I love Abrams too.

[@LightsOnTrees]

I seem to have a built in self defence mechanism. Somewhere inside I already closed off to the film... I can only be hurt so many times.

[@freakaknight]

I saw Dan's "yikes" tweet... this could be interesting :')