StarCraft 2: Co-op FAILS!

Failing on the "Growing Threat" mutation mission in StarCraft 2.
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It turns out that the "Growing Threat" mission is the most difficult Mutator to date. In this video I go over the fails that I have made while trying to complete it on the brutal difficulty.
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[@clopes87]

wow seeing that commander list in 2019 is hilarious

[@AtrumDelorox]

I JUST beat it while having your video in the background for inspiration. Here are my thoughts, but first a few notes: · I have every commander at 15 so I was able to experiment with quite a few strats (all of which failed aside from this one) · My mastery level is 76, so my stuff was heavily upgraded · I played Vorazun, with DT/Corsair (Mastery allocation: Full Black Hole, Full Shadow Guard Duration, Full Spear Energy) · I'm a Platinum league player 1) Vorazun might be required. With all points into Black Hole Duration and Initial Spear of Adun energy being an absolute MUST. The Tier 2 option is flexible. 2) Shadow Guard should only be used once to kill off your rocks, and your ally's if you can make it. All remaining energy should be saved for Black Holes. If your mastery is as high as mine, you can use some to warp in a Dark Pylon once, at the very start, for nonstop Probe production. 3) The only way to stop the enemy from snowballing infinite Hybrids is to just not let them attack. This is where Time Stop and Black Holes come in. 4) Your ally should be someone with splash. Vorazun is alright at taking out large clumps of units in a Black Hole with DT upgrade, but an ally Artanis with Reavers, Abathur with Corrosive Bile, Zagara with Banelings/Scourge, etc will eliminate it immediately and move on to the next incoming wave (since they literally never fucking stop coming). 5) Time Stop should be saved and used OFFENSIVELY, never defensively. The cooldown won't allow for a single mistake. Use Time Stop to attack into enemy fortifications at the Gas extraction sites. 6) The gas extraction sites are the only places where you should fight Hybrids, since those are already there. Playing with DT/Corsair will allow you a get outta jail free card since they don't die once every 60 seconds for whatever units get caught in a nuke. If you have an Artanis, you can literally walk through the nuke and keep killing things, and save the other ability for another nuke. HIGHLY recommended. 7) My ally started putting up mass cannons at the final extraction site. Turns out, REALLY useful for temporarily holding off the last few waves as the bots come back for their last trip home. After the bots are halfway back, you should have Time Stop off cooldown again to buy even more time. 8) Expand quickly. The faster you build your army up to max, the easier things will be. I was continuously building Probes even before Shadow Guard was off cooldown to kill the rocks. It's doable to long distance mine in the mean time. TL;DR Play Artanis & (high Mastery) Vorazun Good luck Lowko! (You'll need it)

[@CallMeLucasMason]

danke

[@Frank_144]

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[@LowkoTV]

Thanks for pointing out the few minor editing mistakes I made in this middle of the night! This version of the video should be much better. Enjoy!

[@nightricer3980]

LowkoTV thank you! I was I bit confused when I saw it again, but glad you decided to change some stuff!

[@alexandrustratomir758]

you are the best man!

[@gerritevers654]

Will you play More overwatch

[@JokoCi]

Maybe you want to try it with Raynor/Vorazun. Spiderminespam and Stealthsquad works good.

[@liuculiu8366]

LowkoTV try Rayner + Zagara zagara pushes fast. rayner defends with spidermines . only produce mines veichle nothing else needed mines gonna stop any ground unit even hybrids i passed this like this

[@bartlagerweij2039]

The creators of the coop missions have creative yet sadistic minds

[@3psilon.]

the enemy transforms into a new, more powerful unit every time it kills one of your units. Zerglings might not be the best choice in this mission I think

[@lemonmk2786]

Is whenever they deal damage lol

[@averagegatsby29]

the units have a chance to evolve upon dealing damage but are guaranteed to evolve when they kill one of your units, and can evolve multiple "tiers" depending on the supply count of the unit killed.

[@junhyungpark1565]

I think that is the why Alarak is the best choice in this mutation. He can just kill zerglings with his wave. After teching up to ascendant archive as soon as possible, start spawning 1~3 ascedants and feed them w/ supplicants. Using rapid fire hotkeys, ascedants can easily take out the wave of low tier units, and later even can take out higher tier units when the mind blast upgrade got finished and ascedants got stronger.

[@Chris-iv8sb]

i wouldve picked like Raynor/Swan for Siegetanks, Thors, Battlecruisers and Science Vessels. just not allowing the enemy units to reach your own. but i dont know how they perform in the early game

[@D3g0nGirl]

I saw this too since his second or third game, but he fails to realise it. That's so annoying while watching him fail: being unable to tell him ;-)

[@jerrylu367]

If you're going to attempt this with Lilbow again, tell him to go DT/Corsair, not Void Rays! DTs have two lives and can burst down units before they attack and evolve. Corsairs also have two lives and their Disruption Webs prevent units from attacking and evolving. You can play Karax and kill things at a distance, with great synergy with Black Hole and Time Stop. Kerrigan is the hardest choice for this mutation, and Abathur isn't very strong either since their units aren't very long ranged and don't hit very hard. Raynor is still hands down the best commander for this though, because Spider Mines wreck everything on the ground.

[@jessebrown5247]

Jerry Lu was just thinking widow mines would be good

[@user-db1dm6it2h]

Jesse Brown both of them together,one for ground one for flying unit ~

[@Static-EN-]

he played with lilbow? when? where?

[@jessebrown5247]

Ceazar Arroyo Last 2 or 3 matches I think.

[@alin2304]

Jerry Lu d în cos comanda ⚃ rapida de 2 zzszzz

[@Keilink]

I met a friendly player and we discussed a little, we ended on this strat : - Zagara is perfect to clean up extraction zones before bots arrive - Raynor is the best option to defend bots with vultures and a ridiculous amount of spider mines (up to 60 per attack route) I played Raynor in this strat. Tips I can give is to keep the Hyperion cooldown for dangerous air targets and finish off Hybrids when necessary. Use Banshees a first time to clean your natural and then deal with unexpected group of enemies, like broodlings reaching your base (which can turn into higher units really fast) . Once you are mining on 2 bases, finished main upgrades and got a safe income of gas, add Vikings to your army composition, they have an excellent range and can snipe air targets withouth being reached.

[@hackcrag4724]

Instead of Zagara, Artanis would be better. Just my thought.... Artanis's guardian shell is op. You would get one more chance to protect units from Nuclear launches. Except for this, its strategy is exactly same with ours. Great.

[@Keilink]

Hmm the issue with Artanis is that you don't prevent the enemy from hiting your troops, I don't know if damaging the shield is considered inflicting damage for the AI but if you lack luck you can end with a group of hybrids on your hands in no time. This is where we conclude that Zagara is better, except a few shot on the first line of banelings the enemy will hit nothing and will be completely overrun, She also has a lot of spare units, summoned hydralisks and roaches can safely finish off hybrids or take care of air units in early game without loosing any important units.

[@lasseammitzbll714]

Keilink

[@leonkruse3814]

lmao. zergling->hydralisk->mine->battlecruiser. that makes sense

[@Alien935]

so goes the chain of ascenssion...

[@justinthompson6364]

don't forget battlecruiser->half-breed abomination

[@user-xs9oo9gc7u]

I have beaten it with Vorazun/Artanis combo. You got to learn mutators well to pass it. Simply playing SC2 well is not enough. First about the mechanism. In short, there are 10 tiers of units for evolution. There is a (damage)/200 chance when enemy attack to evolve for 1 tier. Enemy kill will evolve (supply of killed unit) tiers. Special rule: summoned units are counted as normal units; units with

[@notluigy2632]

hello ananichi here , so after failing for a while too :p I played with a guy who played raynor and spammed the spider mines which really did a lot since the enemy has to deal damage to evolve , thats another smart tactic even tho we still lost xD also i figured that in order to evolve a unit has to deal a certain amount of damage so bigger units with aoe will evolve very fast, also as zagara i dont get the defence upgrades just getting the attack fast and keeping the resources for more banes and only banes nothing else

[@nyadpics]

Artanis / Vorazun combo makes this mutation easy, even on Brutal difficulty. Guardian shell and shield overcharge gives you a great revivalibility to your units, and DTs also resurrect upon (first) death. Void rays also make it easy with the hybrid units from a mentionable distance.

[@TheKramak]

"I saw on reddit they do not explode under time stop." -Lilbow 2016 Kappa

[@LowkoTV]

It's not the case on Brutal, but likely true on the lower difficulties.

[@mb10637]

Lowko, there is a Starcraft 2 streamer named Crank who did this and has the video on his KZbin. His strategy was Use Raynor's vultures and mass spider mines and Alarak with his collossus

[@LightningSe7en]

Did it with Karax Vora on brutal but still looking for more solid ways to tackle this map and helping other people to finish this. Goodluck lowko!

[@tsabito]

Masterbaiter.... XD Lowko you killing me :D (17:47)

[@Dragunov0511]

7:50 The Lady Hydralisk :D

[@Battlemech3246]

I think the best combo is Alarak and Artanis: For this mutation you need AoE and sustain. Alarak can tank a lot. you were able to keep your units behind alarak and finish the hybrids with a few supplicants, great job on that. But you should have added Ascendants. They are extreamly usefull because they can deal a lot of AoE damage and are able to mind blast hybrids. Alarak and the Ascendants will easily kill all the zerglinds and broodlings before they can evolve. Artanis can deal with a lot of units pretty well. Earlygame you have to build zealots; their whirlwind will kill zerglings and broodlings before they evolve. Lategame build a lot of tempest, they can take out hybrids before they get too close to your units. also they can be attacked by few enemy units. High Archons are another great option Alaraks commander abilities are ok: (obviously) you can use Overcharge to defend and the Death Fleet if you need to help / quickly get your units to the bots/ your base. Artanis has the perfect abilities for this mission: The guardian shell prevents units form dying, you can shield overcharge if you have to. In case you need AoE damage you got the other abilities. Obviously there could be other good combos, but i think Alarak and Artanis is the best one. PS: I really enjoy the content youre creating. Always learned how to beat the mutation by watching your highly-entertaining SCII videos. Keep up the good work!

[@gtafbi1]

Consider adding in some of alarak's sentries and wrathwalkers to further empower the late game ranged capabilites of your combined forces.

[@jianpengyu9843]

Alarak is a great option since himself can solo first two waves and ascendants can kill the enemy very fast. However, I have problem with the fourth wave. The red hybrid will fungal all my ascendants/wraith walkers and nuke them. It might work with artanis' shield.

[@alexashton6501]

LowkoTV - a possible way to ensure your early game economy does not get wiped out thanks to the Hybrid bio-nuke - Artanis' guardian shell would protect your workers and early game units and possibly buy you the time to successfully repel the attacks that were totalling you.

[@TheChickenSnyper]

One thing I noticed was that the enemies don't evolve when they attack the bots. So, if you can attack them while they're still zerglings from the air, you can trade damage on the bots for not getting nuked. Vile Roaches also decrease enemy attack rate, making the enemy evolve more slowly. Try not to have enough to keep all enemies slowed. I think I saw that the enemy units do not evolve when they attack buildings. Karax might be the answer.

[@bathroomlew]

The way I did it was with Vorazun and mass tanks. You have to make engagements as short as possible. Black hole with tank splash and voids for good measure is most effective, also have a couple of DTs for sniping hybrids.

[@nightlyknight7970]

Finally Fails! Been searching for videos like this... Your cool Lowko

[@alexandrubuzgar990]

The counters I have discovered(to nukes) were stalkers kill the hybrid and blink away(al like to make any hybrid in hybrid reaven) or with Alarak (low hp hybrid push away and dash into it, suplicants will not allow Alarak to die from it).That s it, if u survive the rushes first.

[@alexandrubuzgar990]

Or the combo Artanis+Kharax.

[@roblaquiere8220]

Best way I found to survive the rushes while building up is to have enough army to kill spawning broodlings before they can be upgraded into other units (that spawn more broodlings again). Blizzard really gave the computer the nuts this game by allowing an AI attack will small ling run-bys that turn into BCs and Hybrids in your base...

[@nizahe2731]

I did that with my friend and we used combo Alarak (me) + Raynor (Vultures + hundrets of mines). I was cleaning everything with ascendants without engaging at all directly. It was not easy though. His mines were shredding everything from the distance as well. It took couple of times though. Good luck mate.

[@jeffreywijaranakula4059]

I found that Artanis REALLY helps for this one, because of Guardian Shell. Even playing this on Normal, those hybrid death nukes were terrifying! Lost over half of my air units towards the end because of them. Anyways, best of luck to you Lowko! ;)

[@jeffreywijaranakula4059]

Also, if it helps, I focused on Phoenix and Tempest composition by the way. Had to use distance for this one!

[@JogoCompetitivo]

There's nothing more agonizing than watching Lowko at 2x speed. It looks like we're watching a hyperactive person playing. Very good. %D

[@nathanfrei8073]

The enemies have a chance to become stronger when they attack (not when they kill your units), so you want to kill them as fast as possible. High damage heros should work best, but you also want to have enough survivability. Vorazun + Artanis should be a good combo. Both have high damage units (dts, voids, immortals, reavers,tempest) plus Artanis shields and Vorazun recall will give you a second chance if you miss-micro/get comboed. Zagara should also be good because she can rebuild her army so fast and her bane/scourge deal lots of damage. Good luck completing the mission. Have a great day!

[@user-db1dm6it2h]

I think the main idea is don't let enemy attack, and kill them as fast as you can

[@user-db1dm6it2h]

Some of the unit can do that~

[@SymbolThomas]

Raynor's Spidermine spam makes this mutation like a walk in park. Also, Kerrigan's jump and dash can kill cloaked and burrowed units, because they are AoE.

[@kikaiashaman]

Alarak's Ascendants can Mindblast the hybrids quite nice from a distance. Plus Artanis and his shield, it's a good combo

[@thovinh5386]

I haven't played this mission yet but one thing for sure that if they evolve to templar or any kind of splash dmg unit then it's a hybrid in the next 2 secs. And its health is restored when it evolve to the new thing.

[@MarekAndreansky]

Use ascendants and supplicants. Spam energy balls to the fog of war when enemies get close to kill most stuff before it mutates. Use mind blasts to finish off the rest. Playing with a commander that can provide vision such as Raynor would work best. Raynor can also spam spider mines to kill most units before they can attack you and mutate.

[@linusgustafsson2629]

My impression is that you want units that don't die. Medivacs + Science vessels + whatever else you can bring to keep health up is probably good. Abilities that heal seem useful (or prevent damage). And in general invisible/burrowed/air units that can avoid attacks.

[@Fafnerluver922]

Good luck Lowko! You can do it!

[@bombidier3]

Alarak is really good for this one, but you need to rush Ascendants out as quickly as possible so you can Orb and Mind Blast everything from long range while Alarak knocks them back from your army and kills broodlings. Raynor with mines is also super good because the stuff on the ground dies with nothing to hit so they don't turn into hybrid.

[@edward3190]

Double Alarak is good, Ascendant's psionic orb is so powerful that the enemy has almost no chance to attack before they die. Raynor's spider mine and Zagara 's beneling are also very effective.

[@toxreg4383]

Those broodlings that come out sometimes evolve into pretty good units... zergling-> broodling -> zergling(2)

[@sweetrules2]

Lowko, the carrier's interceptors can evolve as well. So you should destroy carrier's as soon as they appear.

[@PierreFerreira978]

hey lowko, a viable way I've found is mass mine from the vultures, I didn't completed the mission on brutal (only played on brutal) but I reached relatively easily where you were losing (wave 3, 3 bot to defend), even better I reach that point with not even a natural AND playing with a karax (which is the worst for this mutation) ^^ so I'm 1 base all-in vultures. I'm quite sure if I was faster I would be able to do it

[@zamboner]

i want to try mass wrathwalkers in the back and alark pushing in the front. i think they out range nukes

[@MrTube84]

Btw Lowko I noticed you could have used "Photon Overcharge" on Karax buildings with your Alarak Power, also what has been helping me with Ala to get final stage is always send a probe to build a pylon (if you dont have karax as a partner) for Photon Overcharge on the gas thingis, it helps a lot and obviously I recomend to send all the paragon points to the power and atk speed of your photon overcharge instead giving them to Alarak CD. Lastly, the High Templars man... those suckers deal #$6! damage with their Area Damage and nuke the Hybrids with their first ability, that way you will keep your army for the most part, also you can bait them with Alarak hinself leting your army on the back, Lilbow sure Purify the remains of their army with no prob. Hope you can make it ;) GL and HF!

[@philosopherphilcrook]

lowko, you don't need detection with Kerrigan for things like lurkers...if you use her slide attack a couple times towards them, it will still kill them

[@angelofdragon16]

hi Lowko... i know i am not a brutal player. but i did this mission with Alarak (was level 6 but we did it on normal) with mostly just spamming Supplicants and Wraithwalkers. you can kite the Hybrids with the Wraithwalkers while still getting out of range of the nuke. the Supplicants was for Alarak not to consume Wraithwalkers. atleast thats how it worked for me. Also try to focus down the "higher tier" units before they turn into Hybrids.

[@rogermayes8506]

Can we go back and replay old mutations? I know you love to play Zerg in every possible circumstance ;) but I wonder if Vorazun / Artanis would've done well - make big bunches of hidden cannons and towers, then follow up with hidden tempests and voids with increased range and invisible corsairs with those big stasis fields. Target down their vision and just completely shut down their ability to attack and do damage. Dark templar drops might help deal with early aggression while building hidden towers and teching up.

[@SZRLM]

I feel like the key is to use disables. Things get out of hand when they level up which is through attacks. So what comes to mind is Vorazun. Bring dts and corsairs who are cloaked so it limits when things can attack them as well as the ability to not die immediately from nukes and such. the webs stop units from attacking. the black hole and time stop also does this as well. even the centurions are good with that aoe stun. Oracles could even be really good if you can set traps at choke points In my experience I was able to do much better as Alarak by sort of kiting and using destruction wave to knock everything away to limit the enemy's ability to attack and he is able to survive nukes via sacrifice. His stun isn't great, but its something. the wrathwalkers are also good in this regard since they can attack while moving and dealing heavy damage. Only way I see zagara being any good is since she doesn't really care about her army dying once you get 4 or so hatcheries out. Abathur can be nice since with the broodling spawns get him more biomass than normal and roaches have that massive debuff on enemy attack speed Karax is about sustaining damage taken which the opposite of what you want here. you need a strong offense to kill before big things come out

[@SZRLM]

btw i'm 82 with all and finding this to be stupidly difficult to the point of losing sleep lol

[@jianpengyu9843]

Raynor+Artanis is the most viable combo that I have seen (played by scboy). Artanis just mass up tempest and can clear hybrids in a distant range. Raynor can use mines to defend any enemy on ground. This mission will be much easier if there was widow mine in coop.

[@kingbane2]

try mass suicide build zag with raynor spider mine spam. whenever a hybrid comes you lure them into the spider mines to finish them off since mines dont die to nukes. you only use suicide units. keep large amounts of scourge on hand at all time in case air morphs. the units upgrade by chance. everytime they attack there's a chance they upgrade.

[@ardova]

I believe you will manage to do it with Swann and Vorazun since they have far attacks and steath in which minimize the attacks the enemy will do, if not, karax would be able to replace 1 of them as he is the same logic, a far attacker for hard time without letting units get to the battlefield that much

[@SilvMeMe]

The higher the kill counter of Amon's forces gets, the fastest it triggers the upgrade of his units. When you send low HP zerg lings to fight and they die, for example, to a reaver, it evolves up to a hybrid.

[@adoreme9235]

Lowko is professional and he lost lot's of time ! This sure was hard. Not until I got partnered with Jim Raynor's vulture mines.

[@warriorcomic]

1st attempt completed on brutal Vorazun constant black holes, and spider mines with raynor. this worked for us from early to mid cycle to end game bc's and voids.

[@Karollenart]

artanis + vorazun is the answer mass DT + zealot with stun + that oracle which prevents enemy attack (Vorazun) zealots with torrnado + mass tempest for artanis this mission is not only about skill, but maybe more about good composition and strategy

[@selectivepontification8766]

Judging by the Battle.net forums, you kinda need to cheese this one with Spider Mines as Raynor. That being said, I think they should give the Hybrid nukes a bit of a delay to make it actually manageable-ish.

[@Merguin]

Hey Lowko the enemy units DONT evolve if they attack the bots or structures . So maybe a DT or tower only defense for the first 3/5 bots would be best? So you can focus on bigger units. Also dont focus the hybrids when they are there. focus all the little shit/except broodlings, so that it doesnt evolve themselfes. The enemy has NEVER attacked you in the first 3/5 botwaves with detection. They just got in through evolves. Because the evolve is kinda random. until hybrid at the end. Also everything that stops them from attacking helps.

[@raymonders001]

6:06 that Ultra turned into a BC hahahaaaaa

[@pogliok8340]

Did it on Vorazun with Artanis. It becomes much easyer with all the out of jail cards. Void Rays are not the best you can go. DT/Korsar as Cloaked units and Artanis with Zealots and Tempests. Just stay away with tempests and the cloaked units are allowed to die sometimes.

[@patuf]

Lol did you just say "The Master Baiter" @17:46. Hi-la-ri-ous :)

[@dethmunki4909]

I was able to do it with Zagara. Speed tech your Banelings and use your entire supply on Banelings and a little Anti Air. they'll be able to kill most smaller units before they can transform and most bigger units regardless

[@MucaMacaful]

Just go Alarak + Artaniss (Alarak goes into mass HT ( Assendants ) and Artanis goes mass AIR, ( Phoenix + Tempest ) with spaming a few zealots here and there ). A good alarak can clear pretty much everything in the wave without any losses + Mind blast from a far distance ) Artanis is just to make sure you dont get stupid nukes on all of your army :)

[@darkhyena85]

that last one you had a lurker into siege into hybrid in your natural, I mean how do you prepare for that lol

[@LowkoTV]

It really comes down to just not letting anything die. It's really rough.

[@TheIndignation]

The strategy with this relies on using high-damage, high-value units. It's not one that you can beat without some mastery level commanders too I'd say. Anyway Zerg in general is bad for this, and especially Zerglings. The enemy transformations result from enemy units dealing damage, so giving them a target rich environment of low-cost units is a very bad idea! Prolonged engagements are a death sentence as well. I've seen a lv90 Alarak nearly solo it using purely Alarak/Supplicants into beefed up Ascendants, with an ally just sitting back and going straight to mass Tempest (or another high-end air unit). The other strategy I've seen people recommending is using Raynor to mass spider mines and then later get Vikings for anti-air, and pair with an ally like Vorazun or possibly Zagara who can clear out the areas first so the Vultures can move in and set up the mine fields. I was able to beat it on Hard using Swann and Karax, focusing towers for Karax and Tank/Goliath/Thor on Swann. Upgrading the Siege Tanks (especially the vehicle range!) and having some Monoliths and anti-air handy can kill most or all of the enemies before they have a chance to attack and transform up. Another plus side to Swann is that if a few of your units are caught by a Hybrid nuke, you can use Immortality Protocol (especially with mastery upgrades) to rebuild Tanks and Thors. The Karax ally giving you a repair beam and Chrono for important upgrades helps a ton as well. I haven't defeated it on brutal yet though, it's intense! It's wild when you see a Zergling transform up into a Loki battlecruiser hahaha. Good luck Lowko! Cheers!

[@williamtangtang3838]

Mass vulture mines on raynor and zagara mass scourge for dealing with the air units, done it on brutal :D

[@jianpengyu9843]

Lowko, don't use lings in this mutation cuz whence amon's force kill your unit it will get automatically upgraded. Whence it kill your hero (Alarak, Zagara or Kerrigan) it will automatically upgrade to a hybrid.

[@jonnytoh21]

hey lowko, just a suggestion but would you consider an army based on banelings and scourge instead? i mean the enemy will kill your units either way, with nukes and whatnot, so why not attack with suicide units that deal high/area damage? this way the scourge can take out the air units that come before they evolve to higher tier units while the banes can deal with the ground based enemies. artanis would be a suitable partner due to his guardian shield protecting the banes until they hit their target. similarly, vorazun's void rays/corsairs could be excellent support. abbarations wouldnt be ideal due to its high cost and vulnerability.

[@ThePeringvar]

Just completed this god damn mutation. Vorazun (dt's) + Karax (static def spam) vorazun's vortex + karax's orbital spam is OP. went against Terran mech

[@christianweibrecht6555]

i recommend using troops with long range or high mobility to avoid the nukes, annihilators, dark Templar, and Thor are good choices

[@cylee4735]

Try Alarak, i did this with a lv 12 vorazun(not master lv but the one being max lv at 15), u build supplicants and ascendents and vorazun build DTs and corsair, the basic logic is, if they hit u and get stronger, don't ever let them hit you, btw build some cannons around your base as well. you may also give him one of your gas or maybe two or even three later on as you only really need supplicants after getting a number of ascendents. If you really wan to try zerg, pick Abathur and do the sky zerg armada with vipers which can Parasitic Bomb, to engage at a long distance while not getting hit, and Blinding Cloud to buy you time.

[@scorpio1919]

All in all, I think your biggest mistake is using zerg, for "Enemies get OP when you die" type of mutations, zerg is the absolute worse. Artanis with Vora is, I think, the best combo, since Artanis gives you the shield and Vora's invisible units have an extra life every 60 secs... between both of them your units should hardly ever die. Also, artanis has great AoE with Reavers + Black Hole is suuper strong for amassed enemies. When pushing into fortifications to cover bots, use Solar and Time stop, preferably alternating so they are always up for emergencies.

[@Urza26]

Wouldn't Swan's laser drill be good in this? Get something invisible to spot for them and let it wear down the attackers before engaging

[@Merguin]

Hey Lowko I think broodlords should be your best course of actions here, or if you go for protoss, carries. Dont think terran can manage that:( you need something with unlimited unitspawn to fight the hybrid nukes. Or very long range

[@user-lk7cn8cf1k]

i succeeded that twice. my teamate played swann and went tanks goliath with turrets. i played as alarak once and went mass ascendants to snipe with a lot of energy orbs and in the second time vorazun with mass dt and cloaked corsair which are recalled when they die.

[@MischaKrenkel]

How about Artanis and Alarak .... guardien shell will prevent them mostly from evolving and Alarack is powerfull enough to deal with any crowd ....he would also be imune to nuke do to supplicants nearby I guess that Vorazun and Artanis also would work nice together.

[@Quisl]

It probably wasnt the hardest on brutal, but definitely among top 3.

[@Depayem]

I believe in the combination of artanis + alarak and then scale on the templars + sick void ray Micro

[@christophersandler9750]

#Lowko maybe try some kind of comp that will allow you to kite them really well. They have to deal damage/get kills to morph so maybe just something that you can just back off and keep dealing damage and killing them. With zagara can you build multiple baneling nests for lots of free banes?

[@jannoergaard3196]

I think Disruption web from Corssairs + (Voidrays or DTs) works very well With Artanis and Guardian Shell

[@icezera]

Lowko just cheese it with Raynor. Spider mines are invulnerable to nuke dmg and with the spider mine refill upgrade, you just mine the shit out of the map and have your ally get good anti-air

[@windrunner8497]

Spider mine mass and vikings with artanis is a must and you.can clear to wave 4/5. If you see the first few waves are ground based.they get to air or stealth capability fast so it is nessceary to 1 shot and i dont think i need to explain what mass spider mines does to hybrid.Also make sure artanis have the life and shield regen, so that the vikings or vultures dont need to be kept sending back for repairs and surviving 60 seconds u can be save for 1 hit after that

[@natanoj16]

DT's can also work ^^

[@windrunner8497]

But dts can't kill air hybrids I'm even if u can 1 shot all the ground breeds

[@natanoj16]

Windrunner True, but they can be used together with some Artanis or Raynor for easy air destruction ^^

[@pithicusgiganti2937]

Raynor Mech + Zagara Scourge owns this map so hard.

[@russelconcepcion3974]

Aint gon lie but lowko is lowkey a snacc

[@iceluffy9055]

36:50 'take my gas' Lowko 2016

[@LCouzenn]

My guess is that the best way to complete this one is target fire down the big units as soon as u can...if they are dead they don't get upgraded and just don't BOOM everything. I may be wrong, but just trying to help...

[@alexandertsoy1218]

I guess the full banelings would be a solution, zerglings feed those units alot. shock damage of banes, would be great in coop with heavy aremored units that dont die too quickly

[@NZMateus]

Each attack has a chance of changing the enemy unit, so weak attacks (as zerglings) give more chance to the enemy units become stronger. Strong units with hight attack damage (as protoss units) should be better for this mission.

[@Drragnorr]

finally some challenge you asked for :)

[@Sulilol]

I did it on brutal as Karax with lots of towers/sentries at the important ramps and a raynor mate who spammed mines everywhere. The only units that survived his mines were air and got shot by my long range towers and spear of adun skills. It was pretty hard but we did it on the second try. Im just a diamond level player on ladder.

[@ironzur2082]

anything doing high one-hit damage rather that dps will do. like banelings, siege tanks etc. units evolving still based of luck, yet less hits you've done - more chances you're not gonna see those nasty nukes

[@darkhyena85]

looks like a bit of rng involved w/ this one lowko

[@markhanzelik9902]

i did not managed to complete this yet but the closest we get with my friend was a swann marad or raynor marad combination swann Siege tanks with other support units and raynor mass volt úgy with 24/7 mine placement

[@markhanzelik9902]

and u can ask a protoss teammate to crono your bailing nest

[@YakitateXmas]

I would say you are on the right track by using Alarak. But imo, how about trying Cosair from Vorazun. Like: Disruption Web + Wave push from alarak --> no way they can attack right?

[@alevel100onix5]

Maybe this one is a little bit too hard, since you need a Grandmaster Zerg player and a Professional level Protoss player on brutal....

[@KingOfBlades27]

He isnt really GM level player. But this mission is really hard :D

[@alevel100onix5]

He has been before...

[@KingOfBlades27]

I'm God Doesn't mean that he is now. That is a long time ago.

[@alevel100onix5]

Its a title you hold, Lilbow is a professional player. But if he didnt play in the last few tournaments, doesnt mean he isnt a professional player anymore...

[@rae120]

I beat it being Diamond 1 on solo que, it's mostly about RNG and playing the right Commanders. I loved the difficulty of this one, reminded me of the little void shards mutation, lots of fun. Most of the mutations are way too easy so I like having some difficulty sometimes.

[@tuerke262a1a]

got it done with raynor and karax building only vulture spidermines and defensive structures

[@quandoanzombie]

I beat this on third try with Raynor and Alarak. Spider mines are immune to nukes and kill enemies before they can even have chance to attack which makes transmutation is no-no. Alarak take care of the remain of flying ones and helping clear outpost so i can plan mines earlier.

[@CombatMagic]

Spider mines immune to nukes? that sounds like a bug tbh

[@gaborszilassy4714]

When hybrid comes bring only 1army, dont go both. The issue is always the hybrid nuke. So make unit that survives the nuke, or bring ranged units e.g collossus.

[@aponte303]

you should try vorazum+artanis combo. dt+corsair with gw units and phoenixes, i was surprised how easy with them, if you have the commadners on lvl15

[@davidbodor1762]

Artanis is a must, I'd say Vorazun or Swann is good, you neeed to kill stuff before they can even attack...

[@vasihris5956]

''Welp, that escalated quickly.'' This mission. It really seems like killing everything the moment it you see it is the best solution to stop them from growing too dangerous. ''Kill it before it lays eggs.'' And so on.

[@michaelboldt1781]

Hey Lowko try the Artanis Vorazun Combo :D When you play Artanis you can protect Lilbows Voids in case of emergency so he doesnt lose them by accident. hope you can do it brah :)

[@alrightylol]

As Zeratul p3 it was peace of cake, and u got it 2 late. U need 2 snipe fast those one who morfed in something more powerfull form, before he evolve more.

[@AkiraNikamura]

Nice Video, more of this

[@Ep0pteia]

I just saw a video of some guys doing this with ht from alarak and tempest. the more you feed the enemy small units, the faster they become hybrid nukes