Starfield Haters Lose! Huge News Reveal Proves them Wrong

[@Calbeck]

"Because millions were conned by marketing hype, the game was a success financially at launch, and therefore it's a good game even if millions have bailed on it after learning they'd been conned." That's all I'm getting from you on this.

[@What_do_I_Think]

To flag legitimate criticism as "haters" is hate itself.

[@czarnakoza9697]

bro made starfield his entire personality

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

You really can't have standards without being called a hater, can you?

[@osc-oldschoolclips5204]

I guess not lol. They’re hilarious

[@TheDragonLegacy]

It really is sad.

[@Joseph-wh5of]

The problem is that trying to find valid criticism between the mindfield of blind hate is nearly impossible. On top of that, if you're someone who does enjoy the game, get ready for a barrage of negative comments coming your way.

[@angeloluna529]

@@Joseph-wh5of the only people I've seen getting criticized are those who say there are no problems with the game.

[@Tenebrous227]

Yes but there is a difference

[@Kdub09swm]

I instantly lose respect for anyone who uses the word "haters" unironicaly.

[@tracexl]

If you're enjoying Starfield, good for you. Fact is, the game is mid as hell and there are plenty of deep dive reviews that show you precisely why that is. They aren't just "hate" videos, either. The reviewer played the game, explored the content and the character development systems, tried some different builds, and are giving you their two cents from a position of firsthand experience. The fact that people's negative impressions without that experience turned out to be mostly accurate is coincidence. I have nearly 200 hours into the game myself, and it's not worth the money in my opinion either. That's not being a "hater," that's being honest. You can absolutely love a badly made game, I do it all the time. Plenty of guilty pleasure games under my belt. But Starfield IS a badly made game.

[@nurgle-j5n]

Facts

[@challengegravity]

@@nurgle-j5n I can't help but agree. I was hopeful that Bethesda would prove themselves, and it has been yet another let down. At least it's not a buggy and rushed mess like Fallout 76, but the very design of the gameplay itself is lacking what makes Bethesda great and should have really been explored more (in every sense) before they polished it and pushed it out the door. Look what Obsidian did with Outer Worlds, and a small studio with Outer Wilds. What is Bethesda's excuse? They'd more time, money, and manpower...

[@ashleyanne2056]

I am enjoying the game: 48+ hours in and even I have to admit that it is not a masterpiece.

[@Jaysunn]

I'm glad that you're so comfortable with your opinion that you think others should follow suit. no one is "wrong," like you said. you either like it or not. Going and saying other people should think differently is where you crossed the line

[@Pixx2266]

This aged like fine milk. Also, the comment section gives me warm fuzzy feelings. God I wish I could be a mindless 1 dimensional consumer too so I can enjoy low effort crap.

[@jetnavigator]

3 months later, looking at Steam charts, more people are playing Skyrim than Starfield.

[@Aeternous]

Love the steam score. Especially the recent ones. Take your victory lap, consumer.

[@PaganMinn]

As someone who played 70 hours i found the game to be okay at best. To call people haters for critical points on the game is just a sign of fanboyism to its full extent. You can enjoy the game and see that many things are definitely stretched if not out right lied about. Thats just facts, ill be pkaying more starfield tonight but im pretty sure im about done id say around 90 hours where ill most likely stop will be my monies worth. That said, this game could have been far more than it is at this very moment. In a few years with mods and so forth itll be a bad ass experience. In the mean time try not to suck on Bethesda balls acting like all the hate is unwarranted. Thats just pathetic.

[@momsspaghetti4064]

Not all the "haters" are actual haters. There are just normal critics and the actual "hater" critic. Haters talk alot of ridiculous words. Critics simply state why they are not fans with any ignorance. Some simply like another game more.

[@PaganMinn]

@@momsspaghetti4064 agreed 👍💯

[@DirtCobaine]

Seriously I haven’t seen a more dedicated group of haters 😂

[@thecinematicexperience420]

Just wait until the next big popular thing 😏 there are some genuinely miserable people out there and they love nothing more than to spread their misery.

[@I_Am_Invictus-xo9jl]

Honestly, it makes no sense why they can’t just dislike something without destroying it for everyone who else

[@DirtCobaine]

@@thecinematicexperience420 seriously I’ve seen clips of people comparing the dumbest things like shooting water vs shooting water in cyberpunk like as if cyberpunk wasn’t a hot dumpster fire for years before it was even remotely playable. And I’m someone who played cyberpunk day 1 and still put in nearly a thousand hours. I love it but Starfield is in a league of its own. For starters it’s a real rpg so it’s not even fair to compare the two. No one plays either games to shoot and run around in the water anyways lol I detest the standards of gamers these days. Starfield let’s you literally role play as ANY role with in depth questlines for every role. Literally thousands of hours of gameplay that is required to see the whole game but people are worried about how water looks when you shoot it?

[@KiLlACaMrOn94]

Snyder Antis are right up there 😭😭🤣

[@praisethesun6078]

I'm going to start asking for gamertags. I've noticed they avoided that subject every time I've asked.

[@ricknineg]

I never never understand videos like this. I’m a KZbinr myself so I know the ballpark. If you’re making this vid for clicks and views, go for it. You totally have the right to. Attention, go for it. I’ve done that too. But if people genuinely Dislike or hate the game, so what? You don’t have skin or development in the game right? Gamers want a really good game to play. They want a fun experience. If it’s fun, that is perfect, if not, people will be disappointed. You can’t always please everyone. So what’s the problem with someone who payed the money, bought the game and hated it? Their opinion is valid. So is yours that you really love the game. No need to go after haters unless it’s a great way to get clicks. Why not let people dislike the game if they do and you do you? In the end, Bethesda made loads and loads and loads of money and we aren’t all getting a share. They’re the real winners. So there’s no need to attack the haters. And yes, I’m very aware that this comment will boost your video. But that’s ok. Fellow KZbinr to fellow KZbinr. Keep on playing what you like and don’t play what you don’t.

[@SaturdaySportsman]

I am really enjoying Starfield. Part of the fun is figuring out the game the way the writers/designers made it and mastering it within those parameters. The community, like Starfield Signal, has also helped keep the excitement up.

[@Viothon]

Starfield was made to be as open as can be for you to make who you want, the problem with that is that the story gets watered down, but it lets you play more, Cyberpunk has a hard core story but little freedom to play as you want. I like both games I think Starfield has more legs.

[@Mike-sf7ex]

​@@Viothonthe main quest line and all the side character story arcs in cyberpunk was sooo good it's hard for any game to top what it delivered at least for me. But Starfield offers different things that I can appreciate and is special in it's own way. No other game sells the scale and wonder of space better than Starfield imo. I really don't understand all this crying about space exploration when there's so much of it

[@dickyboi4956]

@@Mike-sf7ex its really just because a handful of streamers who have already admitted they arent the target audience of this game didnt like it and thought it was supposed to be finished star citizen. Combine that with the scorned sony fans (both fan boys are cringe like the xbox fans saying tlou is a boring dad simulator 🙄) who are invested in their plastic box being the best box and the weird anti sjw outrage mob freaking out about PRONOUNS AND GENDER AMBIGUITY!!! and theres a bunch of people who hate the game for reasons completely unrelated to how good the game is.

[@teethebone2990]

After playing about 40 hours so far of Starfield, I don't like Starfield, I LOVE it! I knew better than to take the words of the bandwagon haters who never even played a minute of this game. I trust Bethesda over any vlogger or random critic. From the opening hours of the game I was hooked. The amazing visuals, the characters, the set pieces, the incredible music, the list goes on. I know I'll get hate for this, but so far I like Starfield better than Baldur's Gate 3, and I absolutely loved BG3. Some of the minor side quests are your typical run of the mill quests you see on any standard open world game. But some of the missions I've played so far are among the best ever in a videogame. The Free Rangers questline investigating a farm on another planet was absolutely epic, going from planet to planet as you try to uncover the truth. Tracking people down leads you to large areas, each of which took me almost two hours to complete. The early missions of the UC Vanguard questline were a masterclass in suspense and gameplay. Make no mistake, a LOT of time, effort, and passion was put into Starfield by the Bethesda team and it's totally unfair to crucify and demonize them for it.

[@stryker1999]

@@dickyboi4956 I'm one of those anti-SJW people, and to be sure there are some truly ignorant elements in Starfield. But this is the stupid planet we're stuck with until the Antichrist comes along to make it worse. However, I don't let woke nonsense overshadow a game if it's good, and Starfield isn't just good, it's great, addictive, all the labels you want in an epic game. They did another Fallout 4, but better. Mods will improve further a masterpiece.

[@GhengisGoon]

Imagine making a whole channel over a mid game 💀💀

[@PCGamingGoodies]

This is a rare case in which the bad reviews came 2-3 months after release, which I don't recall ever happened to any game. Usually a belated change of public opinion is from bad to good -- Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, etc. -- usually after major fixes. But because Starfield didn't have embarrassing bugs at launch, and that it is a long game to finish before you can notice its other problems, the public opinion remained positive for the first few months. But when people started to finish the game, the light bulbs went on, and they noticed the inherent problems with game designs. There was no "smoking gun," no clear tell-tale signs of the problems; and only people who have spent a lot of hours in the game would notice them. That may be why the negative public opinion came so late and suddenly. I've played it for 40 hours, and I tend to agree with the general consensus. I think it's like Mass Affect Andromeda, which is also an open-world game with not enough interesting things to fill up an open world. I rate both games 3 out of 5, a marginal recommendation.

[@ofthemoon988]

How many awards win this masterpiece.Haters win

[@Twiggithy]

There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to the game (Lack of DLSS, basic setting adjustments, optimization issues, etc.), but none of them alone or together make the game bad IMO. I've been playing it and loving it! It just came out and I'm sure they're working on patches. Compared to the previous titles that had game-breaking bugs, this has been refreshing to play on day one.

[@mygetawayart]

yeah, i will go as far as to say that the concerns about the exploration weren't as warrented as people think. They've been saying FOREVER how the game is "Skyrim in Space" (i think it's more like Oblivion in space but regardless...), how it's a "Bethesda RPG through and through" and even when the reviewers tried the game out 2 weeks in advance they all said, including Luke, how it's -"NOT LIKE NO MAN'S SKY"-. And on top of that, Todd answered that there would be no land vehicles ages ago. Honestly, the biggest lie was Pete Hines' who, when answering a tweet, said that we could walk across the surface of an entire planet (which despite being TECHNICALLY true, is a very misleading way to put it). People who were expecting a Bethesda-branded No Man's Sky could've rearranged their expectations long before release.

[@lolicongang.4974]

@@mygetawayart granted you can walk across the whole planet I learned the hard way. And plus the way they did it. Also I don't like wasting time in space so the fast travel stuff is so much better than as they keep saying. I am enjoying flying to the planet with no loading screen. I have to respond, with 5 seconds loading screen and I am on land... what you doing? Oh your still flying in? Clearing an outpost, finding strangers and keeping randoms. Watching wildlife. Farming, exploring the strange stuff.

[@andydbedford]

The one thing that “bugs me” is when enemies get stuck in a glitch jiggle rapidly but continue to fire at you. But that’s it really, it’s the only annoying one I’ve found and I’m really loving the game.

[@vanity1602]

Anyone who says the game is bad is lying. It's a 7/10 game at most which is good. It's the same Bethesda formula and that's ok. It's not genre inspiring, not a masterpiece, not a 9/10, but it is good. I just think people need to lower their expectations and go into the game without any preconceived ideas of what they thought it would be. Doing that would make the game better I'm sure. However the game has problems and is a let down in quite a bit of respects especially when compared to how players thought it would be off the advertisement of it.

[@lolicongang.4974]

@@vanity1602 nah 8.9/10

[@jackblaisdell4097]

Guess those steam reviews are just a glitch right?

[@XGiveMeLibertyX]

0:59 A victory lap? For what? Sales? Who cares how many copies the game sold? That doesn’t mean its a good game my dude. That means that Microsoft’s massive marketing department tricked a lot of people into buying this game? Balders Gate3 has been out a month longer and is still crushing Starfield on the top 100 most played.

[@lostbankai6521]

Nah, that 100 bucks refund of mine was a massive W. I love Gabe.

[@duncan4325]

I am a Bethesda fanboy and I think Starfield sucks tbh. Exploration is terrible, space flight is awful (you barely move/ your ship is more like a turret), companions had much better personalities in fallout 4, questing is a mixed bag with better dialogue options but with tired boring fetch quests for artifacts, gun play is good enough, and bugs are a given so I can’t complain about that. Admittedly, I don’t play Bethesda games for their storytelling or for their combat, so that’s not a big reason why I don’t like Starfield. The big thing is that exploration is tedious and bad. The world doesn’t have the same wonder as Skyrim or even fallout 4. It feels hollow. None of Starfield’s hubs and locations compare to the cities of Skyrim, or whiterun’s plains, Riften’s birch trees, the snowy mountainous region near windhelm, lake ilinalta, or the forests of falkreath. That is not to say that in starfield does not have cool locations; however, they are diluted by the amount of lifeless generated content and barren planets. Example: try visiting earth; it is so lazy! The Empire State Building surrounded by desert and no other buildings, London has one building, and then there are the pyramids of Giza nothing around them. Where did all the other buildings goFallout 4 and Skyrim‘s game worlds feel open world, wheres Starfield feels like a bunch of hubs that you fast travel between. One of my favorite games of all time is Star Wars, Knights of the old republic, which is an example of how hubs can be done right but the hubs in starfield are lifeless and boring and the generated content doesn’t interest me. In conclusion, like starfield, if you like starfield or hate Starfield, if you hate Starfield. But don’t act like Starfield is perfect and don’t diminish that it is a disappointment for a lot of people who are Bethesda fans. I have played 50 hours at this point, and I am still trying to persevere through the game and find the magic that is in every other Bethesda universe. Believe me I want to love this game, but right now it’s mostly boring with sprinkles of good questing and good systems like ship customization. I had high expectations going in starfield, but I didn’t think it would reach Skyrim levels. I was expecting the game to be more like fallout 4 and for me, I would rather play fallout 4.

[@BGIANAKy]

It’s not about being nasty to you. It’s not about sales numbers. Or any of that other stuff. The game is a success, in my eyes, if it came out in 2013. Every feature is half baked. It was marketed as Next Gen and it isn’t. Bad writing. Steps back from even Skyrim. Poor exploration gameplay. It’s okay to have low standards but don’t call people that have standards haters. Game is a 5/10

[@vaderom]

More people a playing Fallout 76 than starfield on steam...That all you need to know about Starfield success...

[@Insanitywelcome]

Starfield is so much fun. I’ve done maybe 10 or 15 % of the main story line. I’ve lost myself in exploration, side quests, and I just finished both UC and Freestar story lines. I’m really loving this game.

[@zman_o7]

Exactly same here o7 😎👍

[@jacklee8703]

Love how you can wonder off & do Random stuff instead of following the Mission or side missions 😅

[@Insanitywelcome]

@@jacklee8703 at first I was worried that it would get old. But I’m still doing it constantly. Lol

[@mcell101]

So you can join more than 1 faction?

[@Insanitywelcome]

@@mcell101 oh yes

[@Urko2005]

Its not about hating , its about freedom of choice.

[@SealTeamZero]

The main thing that let me down about Starfield is the lack of space flight, combat, trading, exploring, like what you could do in Freelancer.

[@Safetytrousers]

That doesn't make it a bad game. It is overall a good game.

[@praisethesun6078]

How to tell everyone you haven't played the game, without telling people you haven't played the game.

[@SealTeamZero]

I didn't say it was a bad game?

[@praisethesun6078]

@@SealTeamZero did I say that? I said it's obvious you haven't played it.

[@azamatshaimyerdyen6037]

Yeah space ship area is lame I wouldn’t even care to try it honestly, but horrific thing is everything else is also trash, skinned fallout everytime

[@shredderly]

Millions of players are playing it? As of now starfield and fallout 4 have a bigger player count on steam and not only does it have the worst rating of any bethesda game of steam ever, the ratings are so bad bethesda is responding to them which they've never done before. Total flop.

[@jamesmeldrum4563]

How dare you bring reality to this topic.

[@renaldoawes2210]

Average reviews on steam are negative and the only time they were positive was in the first 10 hours when nobody had played the game yet. The longer you play, the more you realize how shit it is. The average player count has fallen below fallout 4 and continues to decline even further than I expected it would. Modders are already bailing on the game because why on earth would anyone waste time modding this game over better options. Hell, at that point just make your own game and profit rather than doing free labor for bethesda. Meanwhile Bethesda is starting to unleash their paid mod program for next year so for all the fanboys saying "mods will save us" Bethesda is licking their chops ready to monetize the fuck out of those mods that will make the game better, and you'll be paying 5 bucks for a goddamn weapon skin. If you pay money for Starfield mods, you're the one who is going to lose.

[@jacksonthomas5787]

Honestly, Starfield has been a mixed bag for me. I don't consider myself a "hater" when it comes to this game. I spent a lot of money to build a computer and on an ultrawide monitor, so I felt very invested in wanting this game to succeed and to enjoy playing it. So far, I've encountered a game breaking bug that will not allow me to complete the Crimson Fleet quest. I've tried starting a new game and I've tried going back to an earlier save, but nothing seems to work. I submitted a couple of tickets last week, but I've yet to get a response from Bethesda. I've seen that a few other people on Reddit are having this same issue, so it's not just me. Game breaking bug aside, I'm finding it hard to get immersed in this game. It's not "trash" like some of the more vitriolic reviewers claim. But it's not a masterpiece either. In the end, it feels like an average RPG with a space theme wrapped around it. The characters have deep dialogue trees, but not all that compelling. Aside from the Crimson Fleet quest, I've been able to complete all the other faction quests, and they're okay. But it feels like there's something missing. I just don't feel emotionally engaged. The Mass Effect trilogy may be relatively "smaller" in some ways, but it felt much more encompassing than this game. And it seems like no matter which background I select, it doesn't make that much of a difference in my experience. This is something Matty pointed out in his own (very balanced) review, and he's far from what can be classified as a Bethesda hater. Believe me when I say that I really want to like this game. And I'm plowing through hoping that there is a spark that will engage me at some point. But so far, it's just no resonating for me. This is just my opinion, I'm not saying that anyone else who is enjoying this game is wrong to do so. I'm happy for you if this game as fulfilled or exceeded your expectations. It just may not be the same for everyone.

[@expressvpn8433]

Anyone that doesn’t praise this game as the GOAT is a hater to these people

[@liamlinson7563]

i mean cod and far cry 6 sold well, doesnt make them good games now does it

[@Astralify]

This video aged as good as bethesda's creation engine.

[@lyleugleman3773]

That's nice, dear. It's still a 7/10 experience, though.

[@basshead.]

5/10

[@pracitus]

You poor thing, basing a channel on one game isn't good

[@hellonearth6411]

Yes gaming is supposed to be a hobby and a fun experience. How things have changed since I was a child seeing gaming born, and iam 56 years old now.Just don't understand people anymore in gaming, as why can't we all just get along and help each other with games.😊 But great video as always sir.😊💫

[@Revenant483]

Well said, I have been playing games for a similar amount of time, since Atari Pong LOL

[@hellonearth6411]

@@Revenant483 Thank you my friend, yes the Atari was amazing when it came out.😊

[@Revenant483]

@@hellonearth6411 I know, when it came out as a youngster it was amazing to be able to play games without a board or a deck of cards.

[@hellonearth6411]

@@Revenant483 Yes was amazing and so exciting to.😊

[@Revenant483]

@@hellonearth6411 You are 💯% correct. =]

[@azamatshaimyerdyen6037]

What do you mean go home if u hate lagfield? Investors are expecting ROI and u here with the privilege to sit there tell people to go home, starfield jersey, paid to brain wash people but ain’t gonna happen. smh. Its not hate at all, legitimate, logical concept vs the hype Todd been preaching. Simple as that, not bad game but 5/10 for me, for the sake of fallout legacy that is now skinned and different fallout missions. Its a starfield a truly space ship game, not lagfield or skinned fallout. Higher promises and hypes underdelivered. Can’t escape truth.

[@bdleo300]

Todd's adoring fans just love exploring Uranus 🌑🛸

[@TheYardninja]

Ah yes, using Diablo 4 as a metric for success. So cause people installed it it means its a good game, gotcha

[@thegoo3622]

All I can say is thank god for the modding community. It took about 10 mods to get the game where it should have been at release: - Star UI - Better HUD - DLSS - Compact Missions - Better Dialogue Menu - Filter Removal - Undelayed Menus - Loading Screen Bloat Removal - Smooth Starship Reticle Now my game looks slammin runs at 120fps and every planet isnt filtered with Gray / Blue tints. Thank you modding community, for making Starfield great.

[@finfrog3237]

I'm looking at installing most of those listed.

[@azamatshaimyerdyen6037]

Bro this is great share, the video poster could’ve stated these and made logical mature man statement with overall good videobut no, instead said go hame haters, what a lagfield guy

[@Mikoxz]

Im not a starfield hater, never cared about this game and never will. Im more of a type of bethesda hater bc this company is pure shit and protecting it one way of another is truly pathetic. Have a good day.

[@joker9in]

As one of the haters I felt like I had to comment here. I want to be clear on my feelings so here they ard. I loathe starfield. I think its the worst game of the year. I know there were a lot of bad games this year, and starfield was at least functional. However those games didn't have anywhere near the budget, resources, time, etc.. that starfield did, so yeah, I think it easily deserves worst of the year. I watched your video and I agree starfield has had a very successful launch. Nobody is really arguing against that. I would argue so what? There are a lot of games that sell well that are not good games. CoD, assassins creed, madden, fifa, these are all games that sell well. Would you call these copy and paste off the previous iteration games good? Just because a game is financially successful doesn't make it good. Whether you like starfield or not, I think we can all agree that this game has been devisive to the bethesda fanbase at the very least. There has been A LOT of negativity pointed at this game, and you are deluding yourself if you think it's nothing but trolls. A lot us really wanted to like this game, but that didn't pan out. There have been a ton of posts, reviews, comments, and messages about all the design flaws this game has, and how has bethesda responding to this? Bethesda has told its pc players its not the poorly optimized games fault that it runs badly, you just need to upgrade your PC! Players saying that lot of planets are boring and empty. Bethesda response is to talk about how astronauts didn't find the moon to be boring or empty. My personal favorite is when bethesda responded to steam review by telling him he was playing the game wrong. I'm sorry but I seem to remember bethesda games being DESIGNED around the concept of us playing the game how we want to play it and it still being fun. All these deflections tell me that bethesda doesn't care. They know better just like they did with 76, but they just don't care anymore. To keep my post from going too long ill get to the main point. Yes a lot of us hate starfield, but that's not really why we're mad. We're mad because bethesda doesn't care anymore, and that doesn't bode well for the games we actually care about like elder scrolls 6 and fallout 5. Considering how badly they screwed up with starfield, why wouldn't i assume that they'll do same with ES6 and fallout 5. That's why so many are stirring up trouble. We want the games to be better. For those who like the game, I just have a question. Do you think starfield is a good game, and if so why? Seriously I mean that, I think a lot of people defending the game are bethesda fanboys and shills. I've watched quite a few videos about starfield both positive and negative, and even the positive ones had plenty of criticisms for of the game. You might think I'm a hater, but those are my honest thoughts.

[@AngryHoplite]

In my opinion, the game is already good and a great sandbox. But I still see a tremendous amount of wasted potential. It's wrong to always rest on the idea that it's a "Bethesda game." It's wrong. It's wrong because Bethesda appears to exploit this mindset. Todd Howard personally stated that the engine had been pushed to its limits and everything had been optimized. Just a few days ago, that was completely disproven. The game is simply not well-optimized. One could argue that many people are trying to gloss over the problems because they've spent too much money on the game and need to somehow justify it to themselves. The "haters" have by no means lost. We should stop rewarding developer studios for their laziness. Bethesda, especially Todd Howard, once again shamelessly lied to the community and clearly misrepresented weaknesses in the game. See that Moon there? You can actually go there! You just need a hundred loading screens! (An obvious exaggeration, but you'll understand what I mean.) I like Starfield, and I often get lost in it. But ignoring issues and praising the game without compromise is simply wrong.

[@jakealcock5905]

yes thank you

[@mohamedkam991]

Initial sales don't necessarily reflect how good the game is, it could mean that the marketing was done right or that people were excited for an RPG after many years not getting any good ones. I was excited for this game so I bought the premium and I put 100+ hours into the game. I wanted to love this game but the bugs made me decide to not finish the game and put it aside until it's fixed. I couldn't enjoy shipbuilding/buying new ships due to the "inaccessible" bug that prevents you and your crew from entering, so I just stuck with an A class ship getting wrecked by C class pirates and bounty hunters. The ship rewards you get from FC and Walter's quests? I didn't get them. I could not take advantage of the outposts because those were bugged too, from stations becoming "obscured" for no reason to buttons becoming greyed out when you use the bird's eye view, oh and being unable to remove buildings and stuff on the outpost if you wanted to make changes. And let's not forget the bug where you get locked into a conversation and unable to leave so you'd have to use a save from 7 hours ago to continue playing. I think it's a bit childish and dismissive to lump all criticism into a "suck it losers" refutation, especially when there are legitimate concerns. The ones I listed here are just the ones I could remember, I encountered many more and I eventually just got fed up.

[@vavra222]

Hey, im on the same line. People dont get that we get mad because we used to love Bethesda. But this is a bit too much. Im fine with people enjoying the game, im not going out of my way to be mad at them lmao. Im just thinking that Bethesda could have made an amazing game if they bit the bullet like 10 years ago and switched to a modern engine, instead of slapping new graphics and systems on their Gamebryo, that has the same annoying issues for almost 20 years now. Oh, and better writers, dont they own Arkane? Dishonored was one of those games driven by great, emotional story and they couldnt at least emulate that a little?

[@UKGeezer]

I can understand your frustration with the game. I'm really enjoying it, but some of the bugs are so irritating. I've experienced the one where you get locked into conversation mode with no escape. I was talking to my companion when an enemy started attacking her. She retaliated leaving me in limbo, I couldn't select any sentences because they all vanished and I was unable to abort. Lost quite a bit of progress on that one. Another bug was when I was trying to sell some items at a kiosk, but the game wasn't giving me the credits for the sold items, and another is when I select the star port landing area at NA, it lands me in the middle of nowhere in a desert and not at the star port. I haven't got into ship building or outposts yet, so sure there are plenty more coming my way. I do hope Bethesda addresses these issues soon, I'm on xbox so probably won't have the same level of mod fixes that PC gamers are likely to get.

[@GoHardOrGoHome85]

I really dont see why people waste their time hating on a game for whatever reason.Let it go and find other hobbies in life smh

[@DygoClown-kg4lx]

Unfortunately, this video didn't age well. Is Starfield a good game? Debatable. Is Starfield a good SPACE game? Nah, it's a terrible SPACE game.

[@Starflight-zl9wg]

If you remove everything that bad about this game, which includes: An amazingly outdated game engine sprinkled with crap on top. Bad graphics, bad story plots, sluggish sound, incomplete quest, incomplete areas, bad character design, ugly NPC's, stupid quest dialogs and awful character creation. Crazy game ending crashes and bugs and also multiple physics flip outs, clunky game controls, fake planets and loading screens for basically everything. No city maps, fast travel is a joke and when you get where you are going, there is nothing to see. What's left? Yup, that's right! We have an almost OK Ship design Simulator which is the best part that mostly works. Even that gets exceptionally boring ten minutes in. It's so bad that modders like myself won't touch this game now. I'm going back back to playing good games like: Skyrim, (Before Bethesda went belly up), No mans sky, Star citizen and Baldurs gate 3. Once Bethesda gets rid of that antique engine and switch over to Unreal Engine 5, hires some real game creation talent and Todd takes himself out of the game creation process maybe Bethesda will actually make a good game out of Elder scrolls 6. I won't hold my breath though. Chances are they are still going to be using the creation engine for that too which of course will bring along instant failure regardless how good any talent may be.

[@Zeropointill]

"The Day Before was the most wishlisted game on Steam, it HAS to be good. You're just a hater." Same logic you're using. See how stupid that sounds?

[@DaytonaRoadster]

I dont think i could handle this amount of copium

[@HSG4meR]

I was following the channel before Starfield released, was here for all updates. But man, after the game came out and with all the problems, you're still defending it like the game is suffering unfairly, I can't defend your side now. Starfield is objectively troubled beyond performance or any technical issues that would ruin the flow of the game, it's about design. You know why there's no creativity in the criticism part, it's because people aren't hating and looking for things to hate, nor inventing stuff to justify hate, they're seeing the same problems, they exist in the game that everyone played. You should drop this position of positivity that disregard negativity, justified negativity, it's attitude born out of arrogance. You are not better because you love the game and only show positivity, that's it.

[@aries4378]

Greetings from the future. Starfield is widely seen by the gaming community in general as a crap game. Want to know why? The modders didn't come in and save the day like they've done in the past. Starfield shills...you lose. No Man's Sky > Starfield. Time to move on.

[@djtoxicdhg]

I don't get why these consumers of these gaming products or so willing to defend absolute slop It is not gonna hurt these companies. Feelings Bethesda is a multibillion-dollar corporation. It can afford some criticism after all the end of the day. It is a product it's not your best friend. It's not someone that's gonna be there for you. It is a product through-and-through you pay 60-70$ whatever amount of money. To get the game, you should be allowed to have expectations of set game. And if they don't meet them, you should be allowed to voice your concerns with set product. These youtubers did defend it blindly or just as bad as the people who will blame stuff. 247 in our negative 24 seven, neither of which is good.

[@coffeefox5703]

Yep. All these people are doing when they defend this slop is just letting Bethesda get worse and worse. After all, why should Bethesda bother improving themselves and releasing better games, if their customers refuse to ever hold them accountable?

[@Dumb-Comment]

Wait, people actually created dedicated channel for Starfield? Being positive is good but when something is wrong or there's a problem, we should point that out instead of covering it. Starfield sale number is only a product of a MASSIVE marketing campaign. Being critical or simply pointing out issues does not make one a hater, the game is not optimised, even worse than fallout4, although the game isnt a bug fest, some missions have bugs that make you stuck/not being able to progress, unless you use commands to bypass which disable your achievements. I am enjoying the game as a Bethesda game, but i do wish they would have done better.

[@KevenPirritano]

This didn't age well.

[@steveclark9934]

Starfield Haters Lose! Nah All gamers have lost.

[@mattfraser1096]

You get what you put into a game. If you are looking for faults, bugs, complaints... Thats what you'll find.

[@DF-je3lz]

Name a game without bugs and complaints. Bugs have been a part of video games since the start of video games.

[@OrangeNash]

Why not get a $5 game and put something into that then? After all, if your looking for faults, that's what you'll find.

[@c1pherx]

Not everyone who disliked the game or were disappointed in the rushed result were haters. This game also got way less hate than cyberpunk and that game was in a better state than starfield. The extremes on both sides are both crazy, it's not a trash game but it's not a perfect game either.

[@purplehaze5607]

The soy is intense. It reeks like a soy sauce processing plant here

[@JanPapiezGaming]

The dude wearing starfield hat and tshirt telling me I'm wrong or lost. Starfield is bad compared to what was advertised. The numbers of sales are super low compared to other bethesda productions. This video is a big copium and I got a good laugh at how delusional the author of this video is lol. They didn't count the refunds and refunds were massive but they still count them as "sale". The only thing they lost is oldschool bethesda players as blizzard lost their chance. Bethesda can only save themselves with elder scrolls 6 but after starfield I doubt it will be any good.

[@acid5ive244]

So EVERY negative review is haters, according to you the game is perfect then, nothing negative about this game whatsoever, this is a 10 out of 10. Never understood these kind of people who will defend a game or a company like their life depends on it, talk about pathetic and delusional.

[@Mark-ed5pu]

One of the important lessons you learn as you get older is that it doesn’t really matter what the majority of people think. I think Starfield is great. I’m 50 hours in and I’ll be playing it for a while. People tend to overestimate how good older games that they loved were. That and the hype for Starfield has left some people unhappy. In the end, I don’t care…I like it.

[@mraso30]

I agree, lots of rose-tinted glasses going on for Skyrim and Fallout 3/Fallout 4. Starfield is probably Bethesda's best game. I am enjoying it a TON. I can understand that this game isn't for everyone out there, and the flow of the game takes a little while to get used to. At first I was disappointed that the space sim angle is lacking in this game, but now that I'm 30 hours in and have gotten so much done but feel like it is only mayyyyybe 10-15% of the content available (and I am by no means doing all the best content first either, purposely leaving quest lines on the back burner and spreading things out), so given the fact that it has taken me 30 hours to do just 10-15% of the content of this game, if the space simulation and exploration was a bigger part of this game then this game would take FOREVER to complete, and you'd be wasting so much time travelling around in your space ship doing basically nothing. I do wish we could fly in atmosphere and choose a landing spot, that would be fun, but it would eventually get old and I'd just be fast travelling anyways, if fast travel were to even be included in such a game that takes the space sim angle really seriously.. I think Bethesda made the correct call by sticking to excellent quests and characters and storylines, and going light on the space exploration side of things. And even still there is a decent amount of fun to be had with exploring in this game! It just isn't quite up to Fallout or Skyrim levels in that respect. Outside of exploration though, this game is better than those ones in all other ways. With a few PC mods installed (DLSS, Better Inventory UI, Removal of the colour correction/"LUTs" and FOV set to 100) and this game is a real banger now. They just gotta give us some brightness+contrast+gamma sliders though (or a mod that provides these). Can't wait for the future updates and DLC as well. They've built suuuuuch a good template here for content releases + mods etc. I hope they do several story DLCs and that the DLCs add a lot of other, smaller goodies to the galaxy. A big wish right now would be some kind of vehicle for traversal, mechs would fit the storyline/universe they've made PERFECTLY. Give me a mech that runs maybe 1.5x - 2x as fast as sprinting, without any O2 meter and I'd be happy with that even. I feel it'd be really easy for them to implement too because it isn't really a vehicle, it is basically just an on-foot character that's a bit bigger and can move faster. Should be totally do-able and doesn't mess with their vision for the game at all. Oh well, a mod will 100% do this I am sure, if Bethesda isn't up for it.

[@Mark-ed5pu]

@@mraso30 I agree with most of that. The exploration and the ship fighting parts of the game aren’t the best and inventory management needs help. There are lots of things to pick on but hey, no complex puzzles that I have to look in youtube for a tutorial on 😂. There are a couple of things the game does really well. The weapon design and feel is amazing, the death animations are incredible and whoever created the lock picking mini game is a G. With mods and some DLC the game is set up well in the future, your are right.

[@vavra222]

Maybe its because the actual gameplay stayed the same since Oblivion... graphics are better, but i didnt care about those, nor the bugs. Its just that if you look past the graphics and scifi setting, its just all the same, boring Bethesda gaming loop. Story is laughably written, NPCs too, it feels like reading a Reddit hugbox and not some brand new, budding human "empire" that´s struggling to get a grip. Fans of the game probably think that all the haters are just these nobodies popping out of nowhere, but its the exact opposite. Just look at what other games have been doing, NMS, Elite:Dangerous and even Cyberpunk. Each of those games have at least one superb quality carrying the rest, while Starfield couldnt even manage one, even years later lmao.

[@Mark-ed5pu]

@@vavra222 I loved fallout 4. One of my favorite games ever and if I had to name it’s standout quality it was the soundtrack. The V.AT.S system was kind of cool too. Borderlands 2 was great to me because of the humor. I’m not arguing that starfield is the best game ever…it’s not. It’s a really fun game though and I’m enjoying it a lot more than alot of games that people like that I found boring (GOW, RDR2, Bioshock). My point being is people had this crazy expectation that this game was going to change worlds. If this wasn’t a Bethesda game people would like it a lot more and it’d have this crazy following. People wanted it to blow their mind the way Skyrim did…that was a long time ago. Nothing you could do in the FPS single player genre could advance things that much more.

[@Mike-sf7ex]

​@@vavra222Uh yeah. I stopped caring when you mentioned NMS having superb qualities. People like you are full of shit lol. NMS is not a good game it does nothing well, even the seamless flight is ass and makes space feel insignificantly small. All the planets end up looking like the same procedurally generated vomit so please tell me what exactly NMS does so well

[@andreassk]

0:45 The level of HYPE you helped create is just wild. If you look back and read your own super HYPE video titles like : *This Amazing Economy System will make Starfield the BEST!* it must feel a bit awkward, no ? This is the same Bethesda who make Fallout 4 Vertibird flight feel like the game world is about to collapse. And then they come with NEWS saying they can pull off space exploration game using Creation Engine ...so funny 😆 Being hater is very bad indeed but the other extreme is worshiping and hyping the game before actually playing it.

[@FervorGaming]

yeah this channel like starfield is dead. its so weird watching peopel save face when they clearly knwo the thing they love is trash

[@KamleshMallick]

He did this video and a couple more and quit for many months. Good he is back but the cockiness is gone.

[@andreassk]

​@@KamleshMallick Few days ago YT suggested a video to me about deer decomposing in 2 days. Guys captured that on camera and seeing how those bugs "deconstruct" and eat that body into pieces reminds me of the current BGS situation. Both haters and fanboys can help to do that to BGS. Especially since Bethesda has been damaging itself for the last few years. But so far even with very bad writing it was always a joy to play any of their games. (none of their games beat FNV ofc) I see a lot of bad opinions about SF but will make my own opinion once I try. I just refuse to pay more than 10-15 bucks for a video game but I will gladly and proudly make an exception with any Rockstar title for sure. You don't see them, you don't hear them just suddenly one day - BOOM trailer and in a few months - revolution in gaming.

[@KamleshMallick]

@@andreassk Same. Have not got Starfield, because of Bethesda's deterioration over the years. But I love Bethesda games and I will try it after few years. Also they say they will introduce new ways of travelling, which I hope gives us more ship based travel options. Currently they have an insanely good ship builder feature, but the ship is hardly used anywhere. The orbital dog fights will get boring soon. I have no interest in that. We should be able to use the ship to fly to space stations, fly in space and explore asteroids, do some EVA missions. None of that is there, which is extremely disappointing. I played a lot of Empyrion Galactic Survival - space game and the best part about that game was that, you can explore worlds while flying. That was extremely fun and if they dont offer that, then I will be disappointed. What I find positive is they got back Skills and even added Traits - both which were absent in Fallout 4 (a serious gut punch, if you ask me. Skills are the foundation of any RPG). Apparently dialogue has trait and skill checks, which is interesting. I will not even bother with the main quest as the writing of these main quests have sucked in all Beth games. I might just play as a role playing scientist and just do surveying and stay away from factions and main quests for a very long time. But in order to enjoy that experience, they gotta enable in-atmosphere flight. Without that, it will be pointless. So will take a call after a year and half and then look at the state of the game.

[@romzen]

I just got the game and am shocked by how fun and immersive it is. The scale, exploration, gameplay and narration is really nice. Just finished the Freestar arc to become ranger and it was so cool. Just a side quest arc and it was amazing.

[@Crystan]

You literally scrolled past legitimate reviews with legitimate criticisms and then pretend like there's no criticism to be had. If that's not peak fanboy behaviour, then what is? Come on, there's a laundry list of problems with the game. You know it, I know it. Literally ANYONE who's played the game knows it. You can pretend otherwise, you can even enjoy the game DESPITE the problems, but for the love of Skyrim, at least give people enough respect to actually ADDRESS that criticism instead of glossing over their points every single time. Sheesh. Never seen such a pathetic display of whataboutism. Attacking reviewers and labelling them 'haters' because they don't agree with your views is as low as it gets. If you don't actually have a good argument against their critiques then you're the one on the losing side. Want to critique? Answer this: • Why are we still seeing the same Bethesda bugs that have riddled previous entries using the Creation Engine? • What is the point in half the ship modules when they offer NOTHING? I can literally buy a medbay but can't use it? • What is the point in building outposts? They're dead, lifeless, nothing to do in them or on them. Best you can do is add a spaceport for ease of shipbuilding later. • What is the point in visiting barren moons? They have nothing on them except copy+paste points of interest with the exact same enemies in the exact same positions. • Why even have a ship stealing mechanic when you have to BUY a license for the damned thing at almost cost value? • Why is the story so unbelievably garbage? The main quest is literally just one big fetch quest with a seriously underwhelming ending. Honestly, you literally sound like one of Bethesda's PR team - who by the way have been responding to reviews with the same uninspired copy+paste responses that do nothing to address literally ANY of the points I've mentioned or the many other criticisms there are. Given the channel name, it would not surprise me if that were the case.

[@PsyOpCitizen]

I have now clocked in 120+ hours on Starfield, and am very close to 100% the game. I have some thoughts, mostly good but as everyone here knows the good is quite endless. ⚠️Absolutely no hate but… SPOILERS! Starfield, after completing the main campaign. Left me with more “I want” than “I’m satisfied.”. I want so, so much more from the starborn. Unique weapons, unique areas of just friendly starborn, something like a “nexus” perhaps I’m stealing the idea from NMS, but I can’t help to “want” a in game vanilla gun set… or two… to match my new suit and ship. Speaking of the new guardian ship I received in NG+, I really really really find myself “wanting” to change it! Not much but… can’t we decorate the inside? Plants? Benches? Colors???? Chairs for companions? Something? it’s wonderful! But again I find myself wanting more in that regard. More unique starborn. Yes I’ve played through NG+ For outposts I also find myself wanting… more. More Habs… more exterior stuff. For instance… you are almost practically forced to place the armillary on your ship if you are any sort of aesthetic player. I like big, protected bases and not small collective colony habs… sooo that ends up leaving me have to setup my bases in a style to accommodate for an exterior armillary instead of building a glorious indoor one inside a giant glass dome surrounded by trees and turrent a alike. I understand the nasa punk. But I want to make my ships and my outposts feel more in-depth. I want my ship to be a reasonable version of the collectors even! Or… maybe just color my guardian black, or green, or blue. One last thing would being able to modify your weapon receivers to match your skill level. (Advanced, refined, calibrated, etc.)

[@Jin-_-._.104]

This didn't age well, pretty sure they didn't break even on the game until a few weeks ago.

[@nord2t_]

I had pre-ordered the 100 euro version, where you could play 7 days or so beforehand and it was trash, haven't even started it again yet lmao, this game is a bad joke

[@trofinbogdan5873]

This game is not worth buying right now. Better wait it out.

[@naitorain]

This kind of fanboy is the reason why we never got a good Bethesda games anymore

[@thisdoesnotexist4648]

This is a 7-month-old channel solely dedicated to discussing Starfield. It began with a focus on Starfield, which raises questions about the impartiality of its content. It's hard to believe there isn't some form of compensation involved for consistently praising the game. It's quite possible that this channel is orchestrated by a marketing team associated with Bethesda. Naturally, when you receive a game for free (this includes all game pass subscribers), it's easier to view it favorably, as any complimentary experience tends to be enjoyable. Upon closer examination, it becomes apparent that Starfield doesn't align with the typical expectations of a space exploration game; instead, it seems more like a space-themed loading screen simulator with rpg elements. This departure from the genre's norm can be disappointing, especially if you've enjoyed other, more expansive space games. Which you clearly haven't These observations may lead one to question the prevalence of misinformation and the susceptibility of individuals to it. Recent events have shed light on the fact that there are millions of people who are not critically discerning, and this realization can contribute to the overall chaos in the world.

[@freddan6fly]

I have played Starfield, and it was completely a boring experience. I got it on gamepass and I have now uninstalled it. It is best enjoyed on bashing videos on YT, just like FO76. You have to accept that some players want RPG, not a load screen simulator.

[@savxav6x3]

When Bethesda starts paying random channels to give them a good review, the hate is from this being a bethesda game if another studio would have dropped this boring game it wouldn't be as panned, but no excuse from the creator of Skyrim for this to be bland. This game is obviously unfinished, missing so many key elements that could have made this game great.

[@4tCa4mzUPqRZZo]

So because the game sold well it invalidates people's issues and complaints with the game? Is this what passes for discourse now? The only people that should be happy with high sales for a video game like this is Microsoft investors lol.

[@cosmicalsounds]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I've been so fed up the community of haters. Starfield is absolutely remarkable!

[@Dressyone223]

I just finished the UC Vanguard quest and it was so good that it could have been the main campaign. I actually felt like my choices were important, the characters and voice acting were compelling and the twists and turns kept me on my toes. I know none of the haters have played more than 2 hours because if they did then they wouldn’t hate the game.

[@hck.3432]

I aslo just finished UC questline and omg ! It so good that it make me feel like i am playing fallout news vegas in space. Can't believe Bethesda can make such a good story and the twists just make my jaw drop

[@carlcarlson5553]

@@hck.3432 Have you played the freestar questline? Just wanna know how it compares

[@hck.3432]

@@carlcarlson5553 Yes i finished the freestar questline before the UC. I gonna say it is pretty decent , there plot twist , there are intend action, there are choice you can make. But it is no where near as good as the UC questline

[@Wizard_Pikachu]

I have one glaring issue: when it's revealed that the heat leeches are actually larval Starfield Xenomorph, my first thought was: how did nobody notice? Did no scientist wonder to do experiments on the leeches? I understand that there was the Lazarus tree but that expedited the process, you'd think with how long the Terrors had been around someone would figure it out before it became such an issue.

[@andydbedford]

Oooh, I’m just about to start the Vanguard quest, I just finished the Freestar Rangers quest line… well I think it’s finished but who knows.

[@PeterPanbe]

Let’s look at the reality: Starfield (number wise) is NOT a success compared to previous Bethesda Games. Aside of the numbers, the player feedback is very bad with “boring” being the most common comment. $-wise Starfield is underperforming. Where do you get your information on it being the number one??? That is just bluntly false news.

[@anthonyclayton8283]

80 hours in and level 24..just too much to see and do..one of the best games I've played for along time.

[@Crystan]

By 180 hours in you'll realise that everything you 'see and do' is basically the same every time you see and do it. To say it gets repetitive would be an understatement.

[@anthonyclayton8283]

@@Crystan already deleted it.. Was enjoyable but got repetitive after so long.. Will reinstall it when some more content is added.

[@larsstavenuiter424]

I think the main problem is the fact so many ppl screaming this is a 10/10. To be fair its not perfect (still good) but ppl went out of there way to show all the flaws this games has here and there. And thus the whole war about this game started

[@stosh64]

How to simp while sipping soy

[@E.Wolf1850]

It is still unbelievable how these KZbin videos now include new gameplay instead of recycling the same clips from the trailers!

[@Kmoore888]

From my view I see Starfield as a huge missed opportunity. It’s just Skyrim in space. More of the same just better graphics, and more of the same elements from previous BGS titles. They could have taken a couple of the things players from Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous love and combined with the RPG content BGS brings would have resulted in something truly amazing.

[@bobross9370]

I think it's a bit disingenuous to call people ignorant and completely demean the fact that Bethesda once again lied completely, there's grounds for this to be called a scam with how different the product actually is compared to what was advertised. Starfield wasn't "review bombed", 6.4 out of 10 is still an above average rating. But yes, the game is indeed around average, it's not great, nor is it awful, it's just okay. There is no need for "creativity" in a negative review, most of them are objectively stating the fact that Bethesda lied, mainly about exploration which was their biggest selling point, I don't understand what "senseless and out of context phrases" the reviews are apparently using, perhaps the time when the Boss of Bethesda said you could walk around a planet and it actually turned out you couldn't? So your argument is that because it sold well it is a good game? You realise it's only been out for a week, people are buying to try, a decent portion will refund, but yes, of course a Bethesda game is going to sell well, especially with the shady deceptive marketing they constantly do, I still fail to see anyone "loses" from this? A new release from a AAA company will always come with decent sales, especially on release month. All I'm getting from this video is anyone that says anything negative about Starfield is a "Starfield hater" becasue it sold well on release week? Despite all of the issues the game has, the fact that the advertising is completely misleading and the fact that the game is very restricting people are "Starfield haters" if they complain about any of that? I didn't expect much from this game and I still got dissapointed, I've put in 30 hours so far, it's okay, and that's all it is.

[@CEC_Engineer]

There was zero false marketing about this game. Everything said in the interviews has yet to steer me wrong as of 70 hours in. The game started marketing itself when the comparisons to No Man’s Sky and Star Citizen flew out of control. Starfield is certainly not perfect, but the hate it has been getting because people wanted or expected something different is insane. The game improves upon Skyrim in every vein, and that game shook the industry. Like i said, not perfect but far from poor or mediocre.

[@bobross9370]

@@CEC_Engineer I mean you're arguing subjectivity here, if you like it fair enough, but the game is objectively average right now from the reviews alone. There was 100% false marketing from almost all times it was showcased, as I mentioned in my comment the head of Bethesda was caught lying about stuff (he had 150 hours in the game at the time he lied about walking around planets), you can say it doesn't exist all you want but it quite literally does. People were definitely upset over stuff like the planets being loaded into, I didn't much care, and I think many other came to realise it's not that big of a deal, but then the extra stuff they hid until release was simply too shady to disregard and 100% valid to criticize. I don't understand what you're arguing about "comparing it to star citizen and no mans sky"? They are games in the same genre and do what Starfield was advertised to do better, No Man's Sky had 4 developers initially and Star Citizen maybe a dozen and they did a far better job than a 400+ employee AAA studio at space exploration, which Bethesda specifically advertised as "unparalleled" which I guess is ironic because it is unparalleled, just in the wrong way. People expected what was advertised, and then when Bethesda set expectations for loading onto planets they adjusted, but Bethesda had several dozen more issues with the game they didn't address and people have caught on, it's simple.

[@dralberthofmann]

That’s hilarious that you think his liking Starfield is subjective while your opinion of Starfield is objective. 🤭👉You’re objectively ridiculous!🤪

[@CEC_Engineer]

@@bobross9370 Starfield was advertised as a tried and true old school BGS game with 1000 planets to explore. Not space sims with no story or RPG elements. Did you play the game for yourself, or are you just echo chambering these “objectively average” reviews?

[@bobross9370]

@@CEC_Engineer I have 30 hours in the game, literally go back and watch any gameplay video, constantly talk about how "explorable" their universe is etc, I'm done arguing this point though because it's redundant, I have provided several examples from Bethesda advertising it as an exploration game and literally lying about stuff you can do within it, but I guess I'm just wrong because you like the game? Ok then.

[@Anglo-Brit]

Not sure about that.. Steam reviews, where it counts, are going down down from Very positive to Mostly positive and still going down. Oh and I am subbed.

[@Safetytrousers]

That does not reflect the truth about the game. It is not a brilliant game, but it is objectively a good game for people who like the sort of game it is. There is no legitimate reason to leave a negative review about it.

[@jamesmeldrum4563]

@@Safetytrousers It actually does reflect the truth about the game and you can see this when even thumbs up reviews often point out Starfield's many issues.

[@Safetytrousers]

There are not 'many' issues. Some of the complaints are what it doesn't do, but no game does everything, you have to judge on what it does do. I personally had one spinning object in 3 and 3/4 playthroughs and that was the only performance glitch I encountered.@@jamesmeldrum4563

[@Jon0387]

My copy arrived last week, but I haven’t installed yet. My family has kept me super busy, but I’m looking forward to spending a lot of time with this game over the fall and winter.

[@dralberthofmann]

Did you get the constellation edition?

[@Jon0387]

@@dralberthofmann standard physical copy, plus I got the Premium upgrade with the steelbook and patch (that arrived days before the main game, but I couldn’t actually play yet.)

[@braddishv3146]

Looking at your "content" - my only question is HOW MUCH did Bethesda pay you for all this?

[@dralberthofmann]

The haters are OBSESSED. I’ve seen people obsessed with games they love. *I’ve* been obsessed with games I love (like Starfield)! But I don’t think I’ve ever seen people obsessed with *hating* on a game. It’s nothing short of BIZARRE!

[@Crystan]

People are rightfully disappointed. Labelling them 'haters' is a convenient way to dismiss their arguments without actually having to address them. Sweeping it under the rug, so to speak. So instead of saying 'haters are obsessed with hating' why not actually look into the reasons they don't like it. Most of them are legitimate issues that Bethesda likes to pretend don't exist.

[@angeloluna529]

People are hating it because they fear the next fallout or elder scrolls game will be vastly inferior than their last games.

[@robdmfd1920]

Wow, starfield really does have delusional fanboys! I wanted soooo badly to like it since I’m a huge Bethesda fan but I couldn’t, it’s just boring and repetitive with no real exploration which is why I’m back to playing Skyrim again. It’s just the truth that starfield is at best a 6 or so out of 10 game. Maybe in a couple years it could be great, let’s hope so

[@beltalowda]

I have a passion for sci-fi and exploration, but unfortunately, this game didn't meet my expectations. While I knew what to anticipate, it failed to introduce any groundbreaking elements, feeling more like a step backward for Bethesda. I'm not a hater or a devoted fan; I'm simply a gamer who found this title to be average and unable to fulfill its hype.

[@ABustyBanana]

I Don't lose anything because I don't care about the game at all. it's just another Bethesda game just like Halo Infinite is another 343 Game. The fact people care this much about a video game is shockingly stupid in general. It's a Mid game and we all know it. P.S. Complaining about how the "Haters are in an Echo Chamber" when this videos comment section is an echo chamber is just straight up hilarious.

[@xsneakatokex8783]

Who hurt you?

[@xsneakatokex8783]

Do you want to talk about it?

[@xsneakatokex8783]

I'm here to listen.

[@sebastianpieper7374]

I played about 25 hrs, and I must say: the story and world building are so, so banal and bad. I hoped Bethesda would take the best from its previous games and advance, instead it regressed. It’s not a bad game at all, it just doesn’t deliver on its promise, it’s potential is untapped. I just don’t know how they weren’t able to create a better story, side quests and world building in so many years of development. It’s unfathomable to me..

[@finfrog3237]

I've run into a lot of current day social issues in the game. Makes me chuckle everytime. Sad that the writers couldn't seperate themselves from their social/political ideals enough to make something fresh. Makes me want to troll most of the npcs in the game with all their relationship drama quests.

[@tylerstewart3181]

As an rpg, it's a success. No complaints there. As a space sim, it's a complete failure. Solo devs with indie projects have come up with better gameplay in their alpha builds. Also...the absolute androgynous state of the character creator is pretty sad. God FORBID a woman have breasts or more than three feminine hairstyles. Plus, there's been serious issues discovered with the code recently, or so a VKD3D dev claims (whatever that is). All in all, they could've done better, and there's absolutely no excuse for producing an unfinished product when you're a gaming studio as big as Bethesda.

[@torinmoore]

the character creator is fine idk what you mean by that but i do agree that exploration sucks ass but it doesn't need to be that good for this kind of game

[@tylerstewart3181]

@@torinmoore I'm talking about there not being a single female hairstyle that is shoulder length or below. The only thing I can think of is that they got lazy with the hairstyles and didn't want something that could clip into their armor designs. Once again...unacceptable.

[@torinmoore]

@@tylerstewart3181 not unacceptable, of course some horn dog like you who downloads all those "weird" mods cares about this shit, but it makes sense since there are hair physics

[@torinmoore]

I retract my statement about it not needing to be that good, it does

[@mackan072]

My opinions of Starfield are mixed. I'm not all that far into the game, so my opinions might change as I continue to play though. My main issue though is that I don't really care about my character, the story or the world. I simply wasn't all that hooked into things from the get go, and I don't really feel connect and pulled into to the world and lore in the way I am in some other games. This might change as I continue playing, but I shouldn't have to force it. This pull should come naturally, and it simply didn't for me. I believe that the traveling system is a part of this immersion breaking for me, and would like to see it revised - but I doubt it'll happen. I'm also not all that excited for the procedurally generated planets. I prefer hand crafted content, but understand the need to use procedural generation for games of this scale. It's just hard to be excited about the more generic, generated content. And then there's the performance issues. This game seems to be unreasonably heavy to run, given the visuals. At lest when compared to other games. But I expect this to improve with a couple of patches.

[@dominusdevacore517]

You are my entertainment. Thx for the laugh, nice shirt.

[@the_emigrant]

There is no bigger way to lose than to keep playing Starfield.

[@Davide-B.]

I love Starfield, I'm at 40 hours and I feel I'm just at the begging. Most of the game out there after 40 hours are almost done. It's one of the most impressive game I ever play based on an artistic looking. It's so full of details. A game that can give you so much to do and to discover is just a masterpiece.

[@dralberthofmann]

I’m nearly at 60 hours and I feel like I’ve just got started. So much to do. I like to take me time and immerse myself in a game world and Starfield is just perfect for me.

[@dylanmurphy9389]

The game begins after the main quest line, so glad I did it first

[@scartekgaming]

im at 154 hours and i can land on a planet/moon and scan around and be like "oh whats this building" *big tall looking tower thing* i go over and next thing i know robots are shooting at me or i can find a cave and within the cave i find a decent rarity weapon that i never found before - what i'm trying to say is - this game is keeping me entertained and i just wanna play it all the dang time

[@christyh7734]

I made a comment on a YT vid saying how much my friends and I are enjoying the game and immediately I received so much hate. I could care less who hates it but it’s wild how many are name calling and being so rude towards those of us that are truly enjoying it. Really shows their character. Keep “catching a smile” (ref to what one of the characters say) SF players.

[@TheRealHmm]

I'm loving starfield

[@val_de_mez]

set up a channel, both a t-shirt, hat, picture on the wall. Milions of people? Where? In India? TF man. Must have been a serious let down that the game turn out midiocre at best and people are not playing it huh? ...

[@JRico831]

I was so stoked when I saw it was on gamepass, knowing that I absolutely did the $30 upgrade, worth every penny to support this awesome game, I’m gonna be playing nothing else for months.

[@magusi9029]

The pendulum swings both ways. “No criticism!” - “It’s trash!”

[@jackd.rifter3299]

I for one absolutely love Starfield. It's pretty much the space adventure game I've always wanted.