Starfleet Has Been compromised + Jack Kills 4 Changelings • Star Trek Picard S03E05

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#lore
#moriarti
#titan
#riker
#son
#troi
#vadic

[@danieldb631]

Star Trek II showed us you can make a ship look evil. This show demonstrates how you make a ship look angry.

[@RenneDanjoule]

I would be too, if those that built me couldnt devise a scanner to detect changelings.

[@pliskin8116]

Nicholas Myer was on the staff I believe….so not surprising…he’s a low key great director

[@shreddersaurusrex323]

@@RenneDanjoule These changelings were developed to be undetectable by Section 31 itself.

[@Federation-Cosmo-Bolt]

1:19 to 1:33 USS Intrepid: "I admit... im Glad i fooled you for as long as i did, but now... you've made your biggest Mistake Titan... Now... you Face your own Destruction"

[@Arfarf69]

When it rises back up in position with the music was an epic moment

[@SamCogley]

At the very end, Shaw is obviously thinking “how did the three of you cope with this insane shit on a constant basis?!?”

[@tjjordan4207]

Well, 7 seasons and 4 films can do that.

[@leonkernan]

How did they cope: plot armor.

[@SamCogley]

@@leonkernan having a job where nonstop batshit insanity is the default setting, after a while you just get used to it. When you start, it’s a shock. And some people simply can’t cope.

[@shreddersaurusrex323]

@@leonkernan Q lol

[@andrewnlarsen]

I wouldn't be surprised if he at times wanted to bang his head against a wall as a form of stress relief after having to deal with three (maybe four) insane starfleet heroes. Or smoke some cannabis.

[@jimc7022]

Love how they somehow made a ship look angry.

[@boogts]

Part of it is the torpedo bay launcher turning red - they've brought some great elements from TOS movies (as this was done on the 1701 refit)

[@fuzzywzhe]

I find if you download the image and modify increase both the brightness and intensity of the image, you can actually see the set and it doesn't nearly look as awful. Still, you have the writing.

[@fuzzywzhe]

@@kevinmoynihan92 What in the universe are you talking about?

[@joshjenkins3815]

like when you land the first punch on the mouth of a really really big tough guy and it takes him down to one knee. He spits out a little blood, and then stands back up fists clenched. scary as shit.

[@DeepThought77]

Man, they are really killing it with the visual effects this year

[@NiaNostos]

“Forgive me, it’s only now” is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve heard a character say on a screen.

[@dashfatbastard]

That's so true...and it's so true to how our minds work. They're on fire this year.

[@gamiensrule]

Man this season is fire. That line broke me. Like a knife in the heart.

[@TheBigExclusive]

Well Ro was only in 7 episodes of TNG out of 180 episodes. No wonder Picard barely knew her. This whole Emotional reunion was weird.

[@vincentjay7429]

than you should watch a bunch of other movies at least once in your life. Severus Snape : ,, Lily ? after all this time? Always. " or Obi-Wan : ,, you were my brother Anakin, I loved you! ...etc... dude. Rick and Morty - breakup with Unity ,, fun is fun but who needs it (attempted self deletion) .. Eomer finding his sister among fallen soldiers in Lotr2 ... Inside out - changing happy memories into sad once realizing they are the same thing making you grow... oh man this was weak in comparison

[@SweetZombiJesus]

​@@vincentjay7429I mean, it's subjective. I find your examples pretty far from heartbreaking, as well. Watanabe on the swing in Ikiru, when the turtle swims off at the end of The Red Turtle, Wade calling for his mother in Saving Private Ryan, Kirin Kiki thinking a butterfly is her reincarnated son in Still Walking. These are all more WAY emotionally impactful to me, but someone else would maybe be completely dry-eyed watching these scenes. It isn't a contest. We all have our reasons for reacting the way we do.

[@danjohn8371]

Captain Shaw is an enigma. I both like and dislike him at the same time, and find myself liking him more as time goes on.

[@jamesm568]

Because he's a real Captain. A captain is not friends with his crew as they respect their crew.

[@coleslade]

Yeah I keep going back and forth with him, but in a good way. There's a nuance to his character that keeps him from being one note. My issue with him now, especially in this scene, is that he feels too indecisive when things take a turn towards things he doesn't expect. It takes three people to tell him to run while he's standing there like a deer in the headlights. Not bad writing at all, and given the situation it's understandable he's shook. But I'm just like, c'mon you're a Starfleet Captain. You can't freeze up everytime weird stuff happens.

[@elijahgrimm8052]

When we first come across him he's all business and all about the rules and regulations. Posterboy for Starfleet. Then things go sideways and he has Picard, Riker and Seven to say to him "There's a time and a place for that. Now is not the time or the place." Because they all lived it, learned it and that's why they're legends.

[@sableempire9654]

Thats good writing. His character arc is meant to make the Audience feel this way. Its extremely realistic. Life is complex and we often have relatable experiences in real life when we meet other humans.

[@greyofpta5305]

He's just a spiteful whiner with a look on his face that says 'crazy person that shouldn't be left around scissors'.

[@korylinne2101]

Something that just dawned on me when rewatching the scene with Jack. We now know that the red door represents his connection to the Borg, and for that brief moment when the door fully opened his resistance broke and the Queen temporarily took over. It was the Queen, through that connection, that killed the four Changelings, thinking they were Starfleet officers keeping Jack from leaving the Titan to seek her out.

[@fjh5249]

Fascinating, that totally tracks but hadn't occurred to me!

[@johntorrington2672]

Well, we now know the Queen was in control of the changelings, so, this was just his Borg abilities and personal intuition kicking in.

[@BipoIarbear]

Yeah it wasn't the queen it talks about the things he knew cos of his connection with the Borg and it was instinct from subconscious , the door was slightly open cos of his concentration

[@outsideredge]

The Borg Queen also said that she considered the changelings and Vadic expendable. In this moment where Jack takes the ensign's weapon we know from the red color of the shots that it is set to kill. The Queen obviously wants Jack taken alive, but if it came down to him or the changelings in a life-or-death situation, she'd choose Jack. She allowed him to tap into his abilities to survive this encounter.

[@firstname4337]

that's stupid

[@kremzir]

i love how Shaw snaps into action once he trusts himself. what a great character. he has his issues with our protagonists (and thus us) but that doesn't make him a bad captain (AHEM Jellico AHEM)

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

Jellico wasn't a bad captain!!

[@ajet0452]

Jellico was an amazing captain, what the hell are you talking about?

[@rolandmiller5456]

Scotch. Jellico was not a bad Captain Jellico just did things by the book. And if you think Jellico was bad I hate to think what you think of Benjamin Sisko. You have to remember only Captains of the Enterprise and certain other Captains get to bend the rules and Starfleet nobody else does.

[@SantomPh]

Jellico was a great captain-just not for the Enterprise

[@shreddersaurusrex323]

A starship warming up to attack will cause most people to snap into action.

[@BatarianBob]

I like how the automated captions turned Ro into bro. As it turns out, Jean-Luc Picard is a pretty chill dude.

[@Anduril74871]

For those wondering why the Intrepid is still in good shape, Ro intentionally targeted the nacelle so as to cripple its ability to pursue the Titan but not harm the crew that aren't changelings. For those wondering why the Titan had to power up her warp core, the Intrepid ordered the Titan to power down when it arrived. For those wondering how the Intrepid beamed changelings onto the Titan when both ships' shields were up, it becomes easier if you have some kind of mobile pattern enhancers, so maybe they had something like that built into their combadges.

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

Thanks.

[@tarn1135]

Those changlings were already on board the Titan, I think. The pattern enhancers makes sense also. Cheers on the explanations, I watched the episode 4 times and I didn’t remember the power down part, I did catch the other one though.

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

USS Odyssey: Am I a joke to you?

[@AnonEyeMouse]

Pattern enhancers won't let you beam through shields but knowing the shield frequency of the ship would. Pattern enhancers are amplifiers to cut through interference and background noise. Shields aren't interference but active energy dissipation, absorption or deflection. That means that you either have to drop the shield or have the exact harmonic frequency to negate the shield. Changeling infiltrators could get that information easily.

[@johnpauljones9310]

Or because the script said so?

[@5stars6rings]

Starfleet sure does get infiltrated and compromised a lot.

[@619GuitarSteve]

Ro really made an impact in this scene. One could even say it was.....explosive....

[@Salty_Balls]

Too bad she couldn't be around longer, but she was gone in a flash.

[@leebargwanna6820]

😏

[@BleedingUranium]

The shot of _Intrepid_ rising up an looking "angry" (as many have said) is incredibly cool, but equally I love the shot at 0:49 of her "sinking" in the background, as Picard holds his head in the foreground, that's some really fantastic framing.

[@hogfry]

Picard has been LITERALLY the favorite of a Q and Beverly has already had one super genious child become a traveler. Whatever genetic and space magic is pumping thru jack I have a feeling its intense stuff

[@zairman]

In hindsight, not so much now. lol

[@adambrown6669]

You could say it's like ordered chaos, and certainly made the resistance of those changelings futile.

[@anotheruser337]

Starfleet has been compromised. Awesome line and delivery at 2:20

[@NoBody-qs7op]

God damn the way he let the last changeling try to get back to his feet before he blew his brains out was cold as ice.

[@tmatiu207]

That's the 2nd time Michelle Forbes died in a Sci Fi series too soon. 😭💜

[@zarander]

Gather the peasants. Arm the pitchforks. We'll not sit still for this. To war!

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@zarander To the Paramount Studio! Burn the lot and trailers!! 😄😃

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

@@LGranthamsHeir Once we have seized control of the Studio, we will reinstate the writers of Picard Season 2. We will SHOW THEM that Michelle Forbes's character truly NEVER die.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@Clenched.Cheeks BWAHAHAHA!! 😄😃😆

[@darrynrenton5693]

To be fair her character was cooked in BSG Reimagined and had to be put down for the survival of the Human race. Frack Me!

[@CrazyNights1015]

These episodes just get more and more intense! Losing Ro like that gave me all the feelings

[@SkywalkerFilms1927]

I like that they put the dots around the Intrepid to show the shields raising, like in The Wrath of Khan; as well as the classic TOS chime for the com system.

[@internettroll7604]

A lot of people are focusing on the Picard/Borg part of Jack. Maybe Beverly has something about her that creates extraordinary children. Jacks 1/2 brother is Wesley who became a traveler. Maybe Jack being part Beverly has given him some powers.

[@Armatige]

....weeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll, she did get layed by a space ghost that one time :)

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@Armatige Not the Scottish ghost. Bevelry's grandma seems to have some supernatural powers of her own, which we never properly explained to us. Perhaps now they will be able to connect all the dots.

[@JPSimen]

Beverly is Trans and has the first Synthetic Bussy and Baby oven in the Universe. Data and Her made it years before. Which would explain a man of french culture and his earl grey tea affinity.

[@wayner8088]

Beverley gave birth to specially gifted boys. What does that make her? About her former spouses?

[@JPSimen]

@@wayner8088 she likes nerds and geeks

[@TYSniper]

0:56 Picard does the meme, lol

[@mccpcorn2000]

Shaw is so bad ass in this scene. Although he's something of a martinet in peacetime, and he clearly struggled to get to grips with what was happening, once he makes the decision he goes into beast mode. Such a commanding presence.

[@ColdWarSubSailor_-]

Looks like Jack has the Stranger Things upsidedown coming for him.

[@MrSASIronclad]

They made the shrike look like a bully. And then they make the Intrepid look pissed off. This season was brilliant.

[@jec1ny]

There is only one possible explanation. Jack is a cylon.

[@Xerxes85]

So say we all :D

[@mikematthews6862]

That would explain Admiral Cain's arrival to the Titan

[@jaderulz2000]

I like it how Picard instinctively sits in the captain's chair, even though Shaw is the captain of the Titan.

[@R4Y2k]

2:40 "WE ARE PICARD. Resistance would be... most unfortunate..."

[@rikcab]

1:20 That looks like one pissed off ship!

[@JAMES-qp8tz]

00:02:14 *"Battlestations!"* - Captain Liam Shaw (USS Titan NCC-80102-A)

[@LGranthamsHeir]

1:18 STO Alert! Good Starfleet (USS Titan) vs Evil Starfleet (USS Intrepid)

[@vinnyk.9670]

Jesus Christ, that's Jason Bourne.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

More like a human/Borg/Traveler hybrid 😉

[@jaygee6738]

and funny.... i never even heard one cry of "woke!" from the incel butthurt mob.

[@MRJK87.]

"YES, RO SURVIVED THE DOMINIO-FUUUUUUCK"

[@domm.5936]

This season just keeps delivering. The emotion though - some of it 30 years in the making. Brilliant acting

[@DomR1997]

Starfleet gets infiltrated a lot. It's kind of a problem, you'd think they'd have something in place for these issues by now.

[@Paulafan5]

They act like Changelings being able to fool a blood test is something new. Martok changeling was able to do that.

[@Creasy5678]

The less said about a super-secret Romulan sect not only infiltrating Starfleet Command but having one of their officers in overall command of Starfleet Security, the better. She got that job since the events of the Romulan star going nova, meaning the Romulans likely had direct access to Top Secret Federation intel and work for at least a decade...

[@christophersneed5212]

Kinda like our own government!!!

[@firestuka8850]

We have a section for that, but they suck, even more without Bashir

[@dhinton1]

​@@Paulafan5 the Martok Changeling didn't have that feature. I dunno what security procedures the Klingons had for Changelings, tho ....

[@Creasy5678]

The Changelings have to have access to Starfleet Command Codes, likely Admiral-level access allows them to bypass internal security aboard a Starfleet vessel. What is actually disturbing here is that Jack Crusher took on four Changelings in hand-to-hand combat with a phaser he took off of one of them-and killed them all without a scratch. Then that door he is glimpsing appears in Reality and he seems to have to force it away... Methinks Jack Crusher may have been born Human, but he either is or is becoming something else.

[@dhinton1]

or what turned into a weapon. possibly at Daystrom Institute.

[@verentyee5413]

Back before seeing the whole season, yes, my thoughts were Jack had to have been born with a special talent no ordinary human would have. For him to even recognize four Changelings as threats and kill them all without much struggle is far too unusual to ignore.

[@rossrobson91]

This scene was the moment where it all felt serious, gripping and well done this was.

[@jamieolberding7731]

Star Trek Friendly 21.4K subscribers (At 1:19 to 1:33 ) The way the USS Intrepid rises back up with it's shields up and all of it's weapons hot, strongly reminds me of the way a Wasp would look like when it's extremely angry, getting ready to sting you. Very scary!

[@maxstr]

That Intrepid looks angry 😅

[@ianpollock8743]

It’s like the Intrepid as it was going down did the meme “call an ambulance call an ambulance” “but not for me” as it came back up

[@armsman5322]

Jack Crusher: "Why oh why didn't I open the BLUE door..." 😜

[@msund9352]

don't worry folks she was transported away at the last second by Kira and Quark

[@MrDibara]

*Ayo, that would've been such an asspull, that of it didn't come from Kira and Quark, I'd be fuming!* 🤣

[@squirrelmanager]

That awesome moment when your realize that the buzzard collector designs on the front of those warp engines was salvaged from the "Star Trek Phase II" concept art for the Constitution Class design that was gonna be used for Phase II. :)

[@alasdairgardiner2313]

I didn't think of that. Well spotted.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

Pah-Wraith vibes!

[@knighriderredux]

Jack Crusher is to Star Trek like Eggsy is to Kingsman

[@TheSaneHatter]

He should have called her "Laren" at the end: that's my only complaint.

[@dartharaneus67]

2:47 to 2:59 -> Ok.....we found the actor to play Jason Bourne in the next reboot project.

[@motaz1975]

Jack got some winter soldier in him! he is the key to defeating the changlings. he had been implanted with some kind of power to detect/infect them and thats why they want him so bad!!!!

[@msund9352]

that's the Ghost in him - the ghost who seduced Beverly.

[@mikekennedy9817]

@@msund9352 Psychedelic Furs? Ghost in You?...lol

[@BastetFurry]

2:41, when the Doom music kicks in 😈

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

Let's make sure History never forgets the name Titan.

[@masterskywalker7141]

Cheers to that 👍(also don't forget Enterprise)

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

@@masterskywalker7141 🙂

[@PhillipLemmon]

Also... The way that ship raised up after the hit to the nacelle..... THE ACTUAL SHIP IS A CHANGELING! (freakiest thing I've seen on the season so far, gave me the chilly Willie's)

[@narohato1749]

I never thought it would be possible for a Starship to look enraged and vengeful. The Intrepid proved me wrong.

[@carriew5106]

I really like how they have given the ships a sort of personality. Ensign la Forge described the Shrike as looking pissed and the Intrepid looks intimidating in every shot you get if it, especially when she rises back up.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@narohato1749 STO has a scenario in which assimilated Borg takes over several Starfleet ships and engages in firefight with 'good" Starfleet ships. This one (Changelings vs Feds) is even better 😉

[@PhillipLemmon]

@@narohato1749 yeah it was like" OH REALLY BITCH?! YOU GONE LEARN TODAY!" LOL

[@PhillipLemmon]

@@carriew5106 yeah at first I didn't really like the design of the intrepid, but like the Titan... It's growing on me.

[@Humaricslastcall]

2:46 - 2:59 Do I see a little bit of some Kingsman-style editing here?

[@LGranthamsHeir]

1:18 - 1:32 Got STO-like goosebumps when the good guys (Picard & Co aboard USS Titan) and the bad guys (Changelings aboard USS Interprid) are about to have a face-off!

[@lumberluc]

Star Trek Online... better love the series to play that game

[@pswanberg1]

Why does the intrepid need to "turn around menacingly and rise above them?"

[@Darkmetamorphosis1]

@@pswanberg1 because villains always like dramatic face offs

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@pswanberg1 Because its officers and bridge crew have been replaced by Changelings and they are under orders to get Jack Crusher from USS Titan, just like Vadic and her crew.

[@thechroniclegamer4285]

@@pswanberg1 because it had banked to the corner after the impact of the shuttle

[@borg111]

These ships are really built tough! During the Next Gen Era, the Enterprise D, would have not been able to put up a fight if it suffered a direct hit like that to one of it's nacelles. It most likely would suffered a warp core breach!

[@thetim6764]

The Borg incursion and the Dominion War made Starfleet rethink their ship designs.

[@cleekmaker00]

Only if she also sustained damage to her Starboard Power Coupling. Those Couplings were Galaxy's Achilles Heel.

[@Bitchslapper316]

I think we will see the enterprise D before the season is over.

[@borg111]

@Bitchslapper316 A galaxy class maybe. The Enterprise D was destroyed in Generations

[@demariushenderson1802]

That only happened one time, when the Ent-D lost power, had no shields, no inertial dampers, and collided with a whole other starship. Well technically, it happened over and over again because of a time loop. The only other instance of a Galaxy class losing its nacelle, was when the Odyssey engaged the Dominion for the 1st time. But it continued to fight and even turned to leave before the engineering section was kamikazeed!

[@LGranthamsHeir]

#RIPRoLaren May the Prophets guide you to the afterlife, and may your memories be a blessing 🖖🖖

[@borg111]

Another great thing this episode has given fans is a new Picard face palm meme! 0:55

[@ohkaygoplay]

30 years for us to be given more in unfinished plot lines from TNG. *chefs kiss* So glad I was a kid around to watch them, and still around to see them played out. I love this season. I've never gone back to watch clips of "Picard" or even speculate about it - or care to - until this season. The showrunners brought this back to Star Trek, and I really hope they stay on this track. Because it's working. Star Trek, how I've missed you. Welcome back.

[@ultramaximusreviews]

I want a Captain Shaw spin-off

[@sneakyrodent1853]

For sure, he's awesome.

[@Bitchslapper316]

I don't think he's interesting enough to have his own show. He has great chemistry with Riker, Seven and Picard though. A spin off would need more support. Maybe Captain Shaw, Commander Seven with Lieutenants LeForge and Crusher.

[@MrDibara]

​@@Bitchslapper316 I like that!

[@Snafu2346]

Admiral Cain, holy frack.

[@Darkmetamorphosis1]

Jack moves like Data... remember when data fights, he is so methodical and precise, jack reminded me of data here

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

Because he's Borg.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 A human/Borg/Traveler hybrid 😊

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Since when do borg fight like they're in The Raid?

[@CCEkeke]

@@JDoe-gf5oz Hah!

[@CCEkeke]

I personally thought that Jack had moves like Jagger.

[@dhinton1]

my suspicion is that Starfleet Intelligence got word of the rogue Changeling faction that splintered off from the Founders' homeworld ... and did whatever was done to Jack Crusher to neutralize them. The fact that he killed four of them in ten seconds flat would show that (if I'm right about this much) that part was absurdly successful. I'm also suspecting that the Changelings (upon infiltration of Starfleet) found out about Jack, and are hell bent on using Jack Crusher as a weapon against those who created it in the first place ... wouldn't be the first show to do such a thing. hell, the Changelings' infiltration of Starfleet could very well be DUE to Jack Crusher himself. creating a weapon like that would reach pretty high in Starfleet's rank-and-file, especially since the data that Ro obtained (and died passing along to Picard) from Daystrom was highly redacted.

[@MartinToms]

Shapeshifting, red vines in visions, potentionally telepathic, and willing to sacrifice own people all the time... That thing that gave Vadic orders didn't look like a Founder AT ALL... doesn't sound like the Changelings either. It does, however, look like - and sound like a lot like Species 8472. They definitely have a reason to resume their Starfleet infiltration plans now that the Borg have provisional membership in the Federation. Much higher skill at impersonation thanks to telepathy. Also... I'm fairly sure that the Borg nanite infused torpedoes would be stored at Daystrom.

[@brucedavis3816]

Ro was my favorite caracter!! Remember people in Sci Fi no one truly dies!!!

[@LGranthamsHeir]

The number one rule for any spy series is that a spy is never confirmed to have died until you have seen their body - sometimes not even then. Ro Laren is a high-ranking Starfleet Intelligence officer who has faced this situation multiple times. I'm sure she knows how to fake her death and escape undetected. Plus there are rumors Paramount is looking for a new lead for the upcoming "Section 31" series to replace Michelle Yeoh. Given her significant sci-fi resume, Forbes would've been a prime candidate for it. Then again she had a long track record of turning down previous Trek cast roles (DS9 and VOY) and had her character killed off in their prime (Admiral Cain in BSG).

[@DaveSomething]

didn't see her die, she's probably on the other ship...

[@brucedavis3816]

@@LGranthamsHeir she was willing to come back to play the caracter plus didn't age well!! Parts might be drying up for her!!! Maybe she will agree to sec 31!! It makes sense!!

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@brucedavis3816 I couldn't think of anyone better to serve as the new Head of Section 31 other than Commander Ro Laren. Someone who has plenty of counter-intelligence experience and has nfiltrated Federation enemies from the time of the Dominion War would have a wealth of experience to take Section 31 into the 25th century 😒

[@brucedavis3816]

@LGranthamsHeir hope so let's start a campaign!!! She might do it as her career is winding down!! Plus sec 31 has the authority to go back in time!! So the can go back in time save her and wallah!!!

[@mathewfranco3211]

I’ve been watching Star Trek from the beginning and tried to watch every series there after and the writers are awesome. Thank you.

[@majestyk3337]

You liked Enterprise, Discovery and the first two seasons of Picard? Wow, just wow.

[@mathewfranco3211]

@@majestyk3337 actually Enterprise is my favorite. Haven’t watched Discovery. Picard is very good. 😊

[@matheusGMN]

I like that Shaw is just lost in this scene like, wtf is happening why are they preparing to shoot? He’s just too trusting and by the book to not think straight away that this is a framing and they’re getting screwed x)

[@andrewnlarsen]

He finds out what Picard and all the other insane starfleet captains have had to deal with every day.

[@robg1413]

Ro wasn't just helping Picard. She starts the transmission with, "They're on to me." She was avoiding capture. But there WAS enough time after connection was lost to beam her out before the impact.

[@maxwell86a15]

The connection did go out seconds before the impact. Who knows why, or what happened during that time. Maybe someone got her out.

[@gamiensrule]

As much as it saddens me that she died, I feel like it would REALLY cheapen the impact of this scene and the whole episode if she survived.

[@anamorphosys85]

The showrunner Terry Matalas told in an interview that they considered Ro Laren to have survived the explosion by having been beamed off the shuttle on the Intrepid and that in another scene Picard would've freed her and Tuvoc from the brig. In the end, it was not done officially for time and budget reasons. But it would've cheapened Ro's sacrifice.

[@NLaertes]

"No Changeling has ever harmed another..." Odo broke that rule. Im gonna call this one: Jack Crusher is also a Changeling and he is following Odo's footsteps

[@Manolo0528]

Yes but, if I remember correctly, that changeling died accidentally. Odo didn’t purposely kill him.

[@msund9352]

I think Jack Is pretty obviously a combination of Picards latent Borg Sperm and the Ghost who seduced Beverly

[@NLaertes]

I believe they are like 'radical/fundamentalist' Changelings...they split off from the Great Link didnt they

[@originaljackofhearts]

Something about that door makes me wonder if he is something like Wesley.

[@thecosmiccall3802]

@@Manolo0528 Odo actively killed another Changeling in the defense of the Defiant.

[@bunnygirl95]

1:18 The Intrepid rising up infront of the Titan gave me so much Reliant in Wrath of Khan vibes :)

[@Gapaxbr]

I thought it was more like the Klingons ship in Star Trek 6

[@randomrazr]

2:57 holyshit HEAD SHOT

[@rhaderider]

She sacrificed herself not for the institution she left but the man she once betrayed

[@andrewthompson4148]

"Starfleets been compromised" says the Borg...

[@LippyHungstocking]

I keep watching these clips in the hopes it will draw me back to ST, but all it's doing is pushing me further away.

[@bertholdbach4959]

Too bad really, but i can understand. The last 14 years have been hard for star trek fans.

[@davidb2045]

It's like Sar Trek: Idiocracy.

[@mikethornhill876]

Such a great scene on so many levels...

[@MLife1972]

I love the way the lights on Intrepid stop flickering as its systems start to come back online.

[@bertholdbach4959]

Its the small things.

[@PhillipLemmon]

Never thought about the pah wraith angle..... Could be if they are bringing back the changleing storyline.... Hmm...

[@Paulafan5]

Which fanservice thing should we bring back? Picard writers: all of them. Pah Wraiths, Changelings... And we still have those two "spoiler" characters who were revealed in the season trailer, which spoiled those two reveals.

[@samsonx1606]

I see they've returned to The Mother Plane design for Federation Star Ships.

[@mf5202]

So, what is Jack? 1) a borg type thing 2) Got Khan blood transfusion or something? 3) Something new? He does move like the Cumber-Kahn.

[@internettroll7604]

He’s Beverly Crushers son. The same woman who gave birth to Wesley with his innate powers. Perhaps it’s the Beverly bloodline creating another new super being.

[@mf5202]

@@internettroll7604 LOL Mary Jane super powers.

[@japerkins3565]

Jack is a Pah-wraith

[@danielqmul]

Wow, that is an interesting theory

[@rolandmiller5456]

Plus the warp core wasn't up anyway. Remember Intrepid told Titan to power down.

[@dougs7367]

So Jack is basically River Tam

[@RidgeR5]

I enjoyed Picard, but got a good chuckle from the smoke rising from the destroyed engine, and a spaceship "sinking" after being crippled. The whole red door and vines thing gave me a lot of Stranger Things vibes, too. Still, it was a great little series.

[@A.Saans304]

Watching this scene the first time gutted me. I loved Ro. This episode was amazing.

[@SmugCanadian]

Good now go steal the Enterprise F to make your next getaway.

[@BenMcQuillan-wx2xe]

Please more star trek like this, new next gen stories, set on a star ship..

[@danbell9294]

2:04 *laser eyes intensifies*

[@thehollownet9403]

You can't make a starship give a Kubrick Stare.... oh... OH God.

[@odinsson852]

The whole season was some of the best Trek ever done.

[@enolastraight577]

2:43...very reminiscent of "The Room" series from Fireproof Games. The Null!

[@FutureDeep]

"You're tearing me apart, Jack!"

[@rogermoore9742]

Now, This is Star Trek!!!! About time.

[@stratfordbaby]

I'm surprised when the shuttle collided the entire ship didn't experience warp core failure. When the Ent-D collided with the Bozeman coming out of that time displacement, she experienced a warp core collapse and explosion. This would be very similar.

[@MarieaMcMinnar]

Interesting point. I have a theory on that though. Shuttles are much smaller than the Bozeman, so it's possible for creating much less of an impact. Strong enough to cripple the her but that's all. Now the full length nacelles of two capital ships going at cruising speeds might've had a bigger impact leading to cascade failure.( Plus take into note the anomaly could've messed with the situation more.) Think like a tugboat ramming a slow moving destroyer vs two destroyers colliding at cruising speeds in turbulent wanters.

[@jordanreed3675]

@@MarieaMcMinnarwell all of that but also the intrepid is probably better built than the enterprise D originally was

[@piotrd.4850]

Newer design, I guess and smaller hit.

[@agquad]

This design is 40 years newer, warp drive's been greatly enhanced.

[@michaelpepper2026]

Does anyone else find it odd, that the Changleings when confronting Jack, were respectful while holding a phaser to him? It seems odd to me they'd be respectful and tell what they're doing with someone they're obviously terrified of. And the whole mess with Vadic, they are desperate to get him for some reason without harm. I wonder if its related to the Changleings being more "fleshy" now than before.

[@iVTECInside]

Possible Jack had something to do with their new ability to be more "fleshy". Something clearly different about him, side effect of an experiment maybe.

[@michaelpepper2026]

@@iVTECInside I halfway wonder if they've learned to assimilate people like the Borg for them to be what they are now, and they're after Crusher, because he was a failed assimilation with a very important Changleing.

[@Bitchslapper316]

@@michaelpepper2026 I haven't heard that one yet, interesting theory.

[@michaelpepper2026]

@@Bitchslapper316 well there's all the wild theories, and I try to come up with something original 😆 The whole Locutis nanites could be it to, especially with him having nightmares since a child, or a combination of the two. Him seeing the red tree roots on people in the transporter room as their transporting could be a clue to. The rogue Changleings could also be turning Starfleet personnel into Changleings, which would explain why they seem to be everywhere for a supposedly small faction that left the Great Link. Them being so different fits that idea, and the Dominion were experts on genetic engineering... In the past, they couldn't stand to lose one of their own, now they don't care. Which was another oddity that stuck out to me, along with them not being gelatinous any more. There's gotta be a reason for those differences, because unlike all other modern Trek, whoever's writing this season of Pucard is showing an incredible amount of respect for the show in the past, so it would make no sense for them to change the Changleings without reason.

[@garycleveland6410]

A possibility is that the unknown aliens that took over Admiral Quinn and Lt Cmdr Remik from TNG was part of the Dominion.

[@KoDKingVegeta]

love how there is fire in the vacuum of space lol

[@bidensucks2922]

plasma venting from the nacelle Champ

[@greengreeneya2102]

As in all star trek shows and movies since star trek exist. Soo what is your point?

[@nicholasrolo886]

1:17 and 3:30 Starfleet as the villain in our story? It's far more conceivable than you think

[@petercampbell8694]

This season kind of reminds me of the episode of Deep Space 9 in where Miles O’Brian felt like no body either trusted him nor told him the truth only to find out he was a clone/replicant of the original Miles O’Brian - The Crew of Deep Space 9 let him do his thing until they knew what he has up to - Am getting the same vibe here 🧐🧐🧐🧐

[@DaveSomething]

Jack's a gahdamn bad ass!

[@2Scribble]

1:20 - time was a blow like that would lead to a ship completely failing - maybe even ripping itself apart Starfleet tech has come so far - they can shake it off like a glancing blow And now it's about to tear them all down

[@michaelcharlesthearchangel]

Good chance we'll see Sisko if Picard Jr. is a Pah-Wraith.

[@vandit6354]

That would be amazing, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Avery Brooks has stayed well out of the limelight since DS9 wrapped.

[@jensdroessler3575]

Thatnks for spoiling shit in the title of the video. Thank you very much! There are some of us waiting to binge the season when it's done. Now I know stuff happening by just scrolling through my KZbin home screen!

[@onisahman]

Right now, wouldn't be surprising if there was an Enterprise-G that is going to end up saving Starfleet, a supped up Galaxy Class starship, in order to bring things with TNG into full circle in some way.

[@kblskables2877]

what they did with shaw was just a roller coaster of amazingness.

[@TipTWhip]

It's fascinating, how many parallels there are between the events in the current season of this show and the things we see unfolding in real life. It cannot be coincidental.

[@L33Reacts]

Scary parallels for the west. They have been infiltrated by people who hate everything that built the west to be what it is today. China is bringing the west down from the inside for the past 2 decades 😅

[@j.l.w9563]

Yeah I'm stumped. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention to politics.

[@satnamboll]

Perhaps Jack is the weapon. Somehow. I guess we will find out in later episodes.

[@jbphoto99]

John Wick in space. Epic! favorite scene