T'pol tells a good story at dinner

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[@xnetpc]

When she said the records are readily available in the archives on Vulcan, it reminded me of Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy when the Vogons insulted the humans for not knowing the Earth was scheduled for demolition because the permit has been posted on Alpha Centauri for the last 50 years.

[@dallassukerkin6878]

Exactly the same reaction here :)

[@cpuuk]

I don't even read the ones stapled to the phone poles, let alone the ones in Alpha Centauri.

[@xnetpc]

@@cpuuk Have you read Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy?

[@CharlieBrn]

🤣

[@CaptainM792]

Except in the Enterprise era, they have the ability to travel to Vulcan and investigate if T’Pol was telling truth or not.

[@oildalestar]

My favorite part they didn't show when she went back to her cabin and took out her great grandma purse from carbon creek

[@virginiaconnor8350]

That had to prove her story was possibly true. T'Pol knew how to play-act, but she used that skill to save others, not tell an imaginary story. When my mother said she didn't believe our mischief cover-ups, she said we were telling her a story-a nice way of saying we lied. To T'Pol, a story is just that: she had no to reason to lie about an ancestor.

[@spiritualjoy721]

I just love Jolene Blalock’s acting-her facial expressions and mannerisms sell every scene.

[@bigdickpornsuperstar]

She's a HORRIBLE actress! The role of an emotionless Vulcan just perfectly suits her complete lack of acting ability. But as the Vulcan version of Barbie, she is fun to look at.

[@ironcito1101]

From what I've seen, Jolene is like the opposite of T'Pol, she's kinda goofy, laughs a lot, friendly and warm, so it's more impressive that she pulled off a Vulcan.

[@spiritualjoy721]

@@ironcito1101 yes, I totally agree with you. I saw some earlier interviews of her and she is indeed quirky in an endearing kind of way.

[@CharlieBrn]

And to sell emotions without showing them this on occasion her situation allowed some to surface. Never did I think someone could tie with Nimoy for the challenge of conveying the deep connection a Vulcan can have.

[@virginiaconnor8350]

I wonder if the Vulcan who only lasted 10 days was T'Pol, but she didn't want to admit sounding like a failure to Archer and Trip.

[@walterengler5709]

She captured the Vulcan perfectly at the end. She did not lie .. "You asked me to tell you a story" and she let them assume what they wished. She did not correct them or speak up to it merely mentioned other places she visited and she's a scientist and again let them assume what they wish. I sort of wonder how many times the writers went over these lines to get them just sooo right.

[@mattosullivan9687]

I did not lie, I exaggerated

[@damouze]

@@mattosullivan9687 An omission.

[@mattosullivan9687]

@@damouze Nicely done

[@normancarter5419]

However, she did LIE because she said the records, which would be factual records, were readily available in the archives on Vulcan, which they are not.

[@walterengler5709]

@@normancarter5419 Unless there is a story in canon of the heroic going to Vulcan to search the archives for this story, I'm not sure you can call that a lie. Maybe they do exist at a high security level so they are readily available ... with the right clearance.

[@VMX1.]

Its a shame they cut this show. It was one of the best Star Trek series IMO.

[@UteChewb]

The Federation never made sense to me all through TOS and TNG, but finally in Enterprise I could see how it started and why it worked. For that reason alone, I would rank it highly in the ST pantheon, apart from the excellent stories like Carbon Creek.

[@Peatingtune]

Unfortunately, it was panned by a lot of hardcore Trekkies at the time. It might not have been as despised as Discovery and Picard are by that demographic today, but it didn't have a lot of vocal support (hence the cancellation) until years later. I still remember my Trekkie friend admitting that he hated the show - "It isn't Star Trek." He also suspected Enterprise had killed the entire franchise by being "so bad." My dad, who grew up with TOS and has watched every episode of that show, TNG, DS9 and VOY multiple times on syndication, made a face at Enterprise and couldn't get into it. I've encountered many people saying that they only liked it after a second viewing years later, or that they gave it a chance now because they hate Disco/PIC so much and, by comparison, found it to be pretty good (my Dad now says this). I've always liked Enterprise and was stung by the cancellation, but I definitely remember feeling pretty alone in my liking of it.

[@goofyiest]

junk. "Hey, let's rewrite the entire timeline!" BS. A few good scenes does not a series make.

[@chadlarson4149]

Next to DS9 it was garbage.

[@chrisloesch1870]

@@chadlarson4149 voyager was far worse than DS9 or Enterprise. Even cast of voyager admitted they hated the show they starred in because of Kate mulgrew ( captain planeway…opps Jane way) who fought constantly with jeri Ryan (seven of nine). The only characters who were tolerable and good were Tuvok and seven of nine. Voyager should have been canceled after season 3. From a ratings perspective enterprise surpassed voyager in fan ratings but it never received nation wide syndication and les moonves had it out to cancel the show as soon as he came on board cbs. Season 5 came very close to happening but les pulled the rug out at the last second despite the turnaround that Manny Coto spearheaded once berman and braga had been relieved. TATV was all berman and braga as they knew berman was about to retire and les had every intention of ending everything Star Trek and he did up until 2017 when he was booted out.

[@jimp.7286]

Right alongside Nimoy for me. She steals every scene. You don't want to take your eyes off her, (not just because she's stunning), and you listen to her every word. Such a gift! No one could ever replace her in that role.

[@virginiaconnor8350]

After all, Jolene was a big Spock fan! So was Kirstie. Robin wasn't even a science fiction, much less "Star Trek", fan (and when Nimoy told her to act 100% Vulcan, she did so and seemed more "wooden" than either Kirstie or Jolene's chrs.). RIP, Leonard and Kirstie.

[@jimp.7286]

@@virginiaconnor8350 Very sad about Kirstie. Her greatest gift imho was that she was beyond intelligent on/off screen. A brilliant mind. As for wooden,..even spock wasn't always wooden. I think it would be hard to hard watch if they never cracked a little. The writers and the audience want to see them weaken around emotional humans. Makes it interesting. I saw jolene do an interview with the cast not that long ago,.. and she's a bit awkward in real life. Even the cast stared as she spoke. Perfect for the role imo. Cheers.

[@s3any1977]

I love Enterprise. T'Pol's story arc was one of the best in the show. It was so sad to see her standing alone in the last episode after Archer hugged her.

[@virginiaconnor8350]

Actually, she wasn't as sad yet as we might think. Read the end of "The Good That Men Do" and you'll see why. Archer gave her a note to read-left out here-and she read it. It was from Trip, still alive-also left out-to meet him below in some room under the stairs. Before she does, T'Pol hugs Archer before he leaves and then goes to meet Trip-also left out for the big Riker/Troi speech. They talk, hug, and he leaves, leaving her alone there where she gazes at baby Elizabeth's bracelet, returns it to her pocket, and breaks down crying. "Kobayashi Maru" picks up from there if you haven't read it either.

[@s3any1977]

@@virginiaconnor8350 Thanks Virginia. I'll give that a read. That's a much better end.

[@EddieVBlueIsland]

This was the episode that "STAR TREK" paid homage to their champion Lucille Ball - When Mistral says he need to go back to the ship for a better antenna so he can better watch his favorite show "I Love Lucy". Lucy Ball the head of Desilu productions took on Star Trek as an answer to Lost in Space - for the second season she was told by one her managers that either Star Trek or Mission Impossible had to be dropped - she liked both and refused and said yes to another season for both.

[@The_1Engineer]

Loved that episode. Proves you don't need action and explosions to get an awesome episode. That single episode gave T'pol's character so much depth, gave us so much info as well as why she is so invested in and curious about humans. Made the story and reason work why she stayed for a year in that episode, even longer after that. Went against the Vulcan High Command, defended her crew and even fought against the Xindi. There is more behind it and this episode gave that. Also the scene after this with that handbag, loved it. Really put the cherry on top.

[@TesserId]

"Proves you don't need action and explo..." Exactly. I'm starting to dislike the franchises that are more action adventure than pure science fiction. This series did a great job of staying faithful to the genre.

[@chrisloesch1870]

@@TesserId bingo. The writers are so awful now and have no imagination

[@spiritualjoy721]

Very astute observations.

[@virginiaconnor8350]

​@@chrisloesch1870See how long "Discovery" and "Picard" lasted? Even "Prodigy" hasn't lasted as long. "Enterprise" should've lasted at least 7 seasons if not for Les Moonvez, bad mgt. decisions, and that infamous holodeck story. Might as well read the books, I guess.

[@bburkie55]

This was my favorite episode of Enterprise.

[@Vikotnick]

I can't beleive I was a critic over this series... Compared to what we have now, its gold.

[@christophersanders3252]

Strange New Worlds is better than Discovery- at least we are following a crew, and the spirit of optimism seems to be returning ever so slowly. Still hyper feminist though.

[@Vikotnick]

@@christophersanders3252 Yeah, but where is Captain Pike in the latest season? A sidenote at best. I'm very disappointed.

[@christophersanders3252]

@@Vikotnick Oh, I'm only in season 1. I'm also sick of prequels. Continue the story for pete's sake.

[@Vikotnick]

@@christophersanders3252 Damn right mate. I want the NCC-1701F

[@markw208]

Carbon Creek is my favorite “Enterprise” episode. There was an opportunity for another series with Mistral on Earth in the 50’s and 60’s. Or occasionally have a similar story set on other planets, such as “Civilization”.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

Who knows? Maybe we'll see Mistral make an appearance in one of the remaining S2 ST:Picard episodes.

[@megasquirrel7944]

Also my favourite episode.

[@mrbear1302]

Too bad they chopped it up here! Missing so much.

[@josephnardone1250]

My favorite episode as well. It was more a romantic story than pure science fiction.

[@retluoc]

One of my favorites as well. The only two others that came close were the mirror universe episodes.

[@shadowthoughts7959]

Genuinely my favorite episode from this entire series.

[@danijel124]

the actress playing t pol was perfect for this role :)

[@spiritualjoy721]

Jolene Blalock--now Jolene Rapino.

[@dmutant2635]

One of the best episodes ever of any ST series, imho. The velcro is genius.

[@spaceflight1019]

This is almost a loop back to "Mirror Image", which was set in Cokeburg, Pennsylvania August 3rd, 1953. Sam opens up his wallet and the sound of the Velcro caused Stowpah to exclaim "What dat?"

[@bettywing52]

Carbon Creek is easily one of the best episodes of Enterprise and of all Star Trek in general. One of the hallmarks is the scale of the Vulcan's Empire versus the Humans and exploring Vulcan culture. T'Pol was able to show this especially well in the last season.

[@donm-tv8cm]

Yessir, I remember that episode. One if my favorites of all time! I HATE that the series was cut so short. Despite all the complaining from the Original Series purists, Enterprise was an amazing series, even if its scriptwriters were obviously challenged to come up with good story arcs from time to time.

[@MerlynEmerald]

"Carbon Creek" is one of my favorite episodes of the "Enterprise". The episodes with Vulcans are all good, here Mestral turned out to be a very cute character. The dude used all the positive aspects of their deplorable situation. Mestral is so open, kind and friendly... A strange Vulcan. Apparently, he had a hard time living on Vulcan, if he made such a categorical and irrevocable decision - to stay forever on an alien planet, without a chance to return home. To hide from everyone all his life and live at random. Honestly, I feel sorry for him.

[@spiritualjoy721]

The Vulcans are my favorite characters and T’Pol tops the list.

[@FJF1085]

Trip: On Vulcan? T’Pol: Of Course. Always makes me laugh.

[@AndyCutright]

This has to be a Top 20 Star Trek (any universe/ timeline) episode.

[@QuarrellaDeVil]

2:25 There goes that old Earth saying, "in vino veritas."

[@hoofheartedicemelted296]

"Carbon Creek" was my favourite episode in Season 2. I especially loved the way it ended. T'Pol passed it off as just a story but she kept her second foremothers personal belongings among her own things, which proved the story she told Trip and Archer was true.

[@johnmcsmith541]

When I was young omg I had a crush on her. Honeslty, still do lol, Love or hate the show, T'Pol was awesome. Jolene Blalock, nailed it with T'Pol.

[@cleekmaker00]

The 'drunk' version of this scene is priceless... 🖖😄

[@worldcatloversheavenwatcht2927]

I have memorized her story and retell it to random people I meet on busses, subways... Airplanes... And coffee shops around this world.

[@Rainman97x]

In the military, the most junior person at the Captain's table is supposed to refill everyone's drinks. This is a custom I usually see in Star Trek, and it immediately stuck out in this scene. Perhaps Archer is doing this to make the meal more informal.

[@aaronjg682]

Starfleet wasn't supposed to be a military organization, though. Plus it seems pretty on brand for Archer to tone it down off hours.

[@AgentExeider]

@@aaronjg682 I agree, I would say it's more Archer giving of himself, we've seen other SF captains even in Archer's day who are way more formal, so they would likely at their tables expect the junior officer to do that. But not Archer, when he invites you to Captain's table, it's _his_ table and you are the guest and he is the host, so of course he's going to refill your drink, and do so with a relaxed smile on his face. Archer seems like the kind of man who gets joy from helping others, which of course gets him into trouble, when he tries to go scratch that itch, but the aid wasn't requested nor wanted in those cases.

[@basilrose]

It's to emphasize that Archer wants to loosen her up to tell the story

[@florbfnarb7099]

@@aaronjg682 - People say that, but since Starfleet is the governmental organization whose function (among others) is to use lethal force to defend Earth (later the Federation) and her interests, Starfleet is by definition the military.

[@davidhutchinson5233]

Captain's prerogative

[@elizabethjansen2684]

Now that is a pair of bewildered good old boys.

[@arthurok327]

Howdy my Friends, yes Carbon Creek was a Great episode, definitely one of my most favorite episodes from Enterprise, very Cool episode indeed, HAPPY EASTER my Friends, Live long and prosper 🖖 Peace ✌

[@susangrande8142]

Peace and long life! 🖖

[@Shiirow]

I love the fact that they sort of left it open ended to whether or not Carbon Creek actually happened. even the moment at the end with the handbag isnt conclusive.

[@virginiaconnor8350]

Why would T'Pol lie? Just because they asked her to tell a story, it doesn't mean she just made up one on the spot (like my parents used to accuse me of doing when I got in trouble as a youngster). She brought it out to mediate on, not because she wanted to atone for lying, but more likely because it brought back the emotional memories of her great, great grand mother. Mediation helped her deal with emotion (no wonder she had such bad memories later during the Xindi crisis because she didn't get to meditate, in addition to her withdrawal symptoms from her addiction to that Trellium).

[@riogrande5761]

Carbon Creek is one of my favorite Enterprise episodes.

[@salilbhatnagar]

Who knew Vulcans were great storytellers!

[@jurgen9568]

One of the best episodes in voyager is when Tuvok wrote a holonovel. They're pretty good story tellers!

[@randysmith2866]

This is one of the best episodes of Enterprise!

[@almishti]

What a lovely episode this was.

[@alking4153]

This is the best episode of the show.

[@polemeros]

Even tho she's an emotionless Vulcan, she still acts like a sulky girl...."well, if you're not interested in hearing the rest...." LOL

[@rccc974]

One of the best Ent episodes.

[@CharlieBrn]

Oh I do hope you will consider an edit. Even without the other scenes, showing her going to her cabin and with such care moving her great grandmother's purse into the open shows how much reverence she has for the story as it was related to her and how it changed the course of her life.

[@StylianosGreg]

One of my favourite episodes from "Enterprise"! A story about the Volcan character and discipline is an a such a lovely rural human environment!

[@tstahler5420]

One of many great episodes of a great show.

[@josedelatorre2569]

this was a better episode than I first expected...it ended so great! the concept of a Vulcan pulling someone's leg is just priceless

[@deepsleep7822]

I like how Archer keeps pouring her wine. I’m gonna guess, Vulcans don’t metabolize alcohol the same way humans do.

[@spiritualjoy721]

According to cannon, Vulcans don’t drink alcoholic beverages. In season 2, episode 15 (“Cease Fire”), Shran proposes a toast and pours some Andorian ale. Soval initially says that Vulcans don’t drink, but they drink the ale in honor of the special occasion.

[@EsteffersonTorres]

That's one of my favorite Enterprise episodes!

[@cush6827]

Carbon Creek is my one of my most favorite episodes of Enterprise, especially the reveal at the very end

[@stephenarnold760]

Also my favorite episode. I keep going back to it again and again. Really rewrites all of the Vulcan history on Earth timeline!

[@miklosernoehazy8678]

...it is a personal "internet theory" of mine that whilst stranded on Earth, T'mir penned a paperback romance novel and also posed for the cover of this novel... ... furthermore, somewhere in Morn's collection of Terran antique velvet paintings, there is a velvet painting of T'mir leaning on a Horga'hn... ...it is the original art work for the cover of an entertaining and "very quick read" of a paperback romance, going by the title "Vulcan Love Slave"... ...(it's actually a very fine example of a Vulcan literary tradition of erotic humor and wisdom in cautionary fables; and it helped pay the bills when she sold the publishing rights)...

[@DanielTsosie]

A footnote at best ;)

[@fw1421]

She was just brilliant in this role. I never watched Enterprise when it was on TV,I wish I had and that they had not cancelled it when they did.

[@johngalt4657]

An excellent episode!

[@normancarter5419]

BUT if she told a story, VULCAN'S CANNOT LIE.

[@johnwhite8777]

My favorite ep. Carbon creek, i like how she pulled out her great great grand mothers purse from C.C. at the end

[@kricklasalty8599]

I gotta give this series another look.

[@robertplourde2447]

In the episode, when Stron comes home from work, I always imagine he's saying to the others "Peg, a fat woman came into the shoe store today..."

[@donotneed2250]

That was one of my favorite episodes...

[@4801MAURICE]

Un de mes épisodes préférés ❤️

[@xaracen7207]

“2 weeks” “10 days” two weeks t’pol, 2, working, weeks

[@Trip1443]

I liked the part where the ship flew by

[@nickwride2023]

Simply a great episode.

[@michaelandrew4488]

One of my favourite episodes.

[@TedSchoenling]

I really enjoyed this episode.

[@clementmartinez121]

Cool origin story of Velcro. Kinda funny it happened before first contact. Had the boxed set.

[@MisterMac4321]

Interesting how she neither confirms or denies the "truth" of her story, leaving the humans to apply their own assumptions as she leaves.

[@williamjohnston4039]

..but Vulcans cannot lie, according to Spock. Although the ones over T'Pol on this series were sketchy.

[@AnansitheSpider8]

@@williamjohnston4039 Although Spock did lie in one TOS episode, where he told a guard on some planet that there was a multi-legged creature crawling on the guard's shoulder. It wasn't an error, it wasn't an exaggeration, it was a straight up LIE to distract the guard and get the guard to look at his shoulder so that Spock could nerve pinch his ass into unconsciousness.

[@williamjohnston4039]

@Anansi the Spider I remember that in Wrath of Khan, I think it was. They were talking about how long to repair the ship. "You lied". "No, I exaggerated." Spock also had emotions in the pilot, and maybe the first couple of episodes. Can't recall how that went. Nimoy refined the character, but Enterprise had Vulcand being very untrustworthy and holier-than-thou towards humans.

[@haroldcruz8550]

@@williamjohnston4039 She was asked to tell a story, not an official report.

[@williamjohnston4039]

I've seen a lot of "hate" for this series, but I enjoyed it. It was better than DS9 to me.

[@spiritualjoy721]

I 100% agree!

[@robmlisanti]

Carbon creek one of my fave episodes

[@dmanc85]

I wonder if this encounter in 1957 lead to more Vulcan expeditions to Earth, especially in PIC where it's revealed they were on Earth in the late 1970's or early 1980's doing sample taking or analysis.

[@Glidescube]

If he lived 150 years more on earth he probably was alive at the same time as the Enterprise's crew.

[@Finn-Germe81]

Another story in its self. Great concept idea

[@patrickschulz2193]

Not quite. 1957 + 150 years = 2107, give or take; Enterprise launched in 2153. Vulcans over the age of 200 are a rarity at best.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@patrickschulz2193 Name a Vulcan character who dies of old age before the age of 200.

[@patrickschulz2193]

@@captainjefferies9047 Name a Vulcan character who dies of old age. :P Granted, I don't see much in the way of solid evidence to hammer it in beyond that, but Sarek gave off the impression of being an old, old man when he died at 203 years old.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@patrickschulz2193 Sarek.

[@hmmmmm6056]

Love the episodes with dinner scenes

[@quentinmwilson9837]

"Can never get a read on her."

[@eledhwenmare2403]

Ok now I’m going to have to watch it again.

[@hancock63]

This episode was on H&I last night. One of my favorites from Enterprise.

[@spiritualjoy721]

What is H&I?

[@hancock63]

@@spiritualjoy721 a television station. From Sunday to Friday, they show TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT, starting at 8pm EST.

[@spiritualjoy721]

What is H&I?

[@hancock63]

@@spiritualjoy721 Heroes & Icons. It’s an American television network that shows the five Star Trek series every Monday to Saturday.

[@JosephDickson]

Carbon Creek was one of my favorite episodes of this series. 🖖

[@adruvail]

Such an underrated series.

[@gerardcousineau3478]

A very sober person, she makes me think of Christians elders who can have wine and they do it in perfect quantity. Some may call that moderation. Alcohol isn't for everyone. Finally have you ever heard T' Pol talking about her dad?

[@virginiaconnor8350]

No. Some folks can't drink alcohol. My friend Helen had Epilepsy and due to drugs she had to take, alcohol was verboten. I'm Diabetic and I try to limit alcohol, even sugar alcohols, as I'm not sure what's safe and not safe. I wonder if Dr. Phlox would've told her to limit what she could-due to any medications-like Dr. Yuris gave her when she had Pa'nar Syndrome or anything he might've given her for the Trellium withdrawal. After T'Pau cured her of the P.S., she no longer had to worry about it affecting her.

[@spiritualjoy721]

During a conversation with her mother, when T’Pol takes Trip to Vulcan and she later marries Koss, T’Pol briefly mentions her father.

[@144Donn]

My favorite episode!

[@cmonnowthisisinsane]

Possibly Enterprise's best episode. Certainly the one that stands out most for me. Just as The Visitor is my favorite DS9 ep. Maybe I like sci-fi families.

[@TheGawian]

Man the visitor is so good! Just thinking of sisko looking at old Jake sleeping peacefully makes me wanna cry.

[@gordangraham]

Has to be some of my five favorite episodes. Love Enterprise

[@ARMA2ARMENIA]

My favorite episode, 👍👍👍

[@davidmorton8332]

An all time great episode

[@deadturret4049]

T'pol's story sounds and awful lot like the setup for the star trek novel, Strangers from the Sky. A vulcan ship crashes on earth before the contact with Zefram Cochrane, and the 2 Vulcan survivors ended up living among a group of researchers. Although her version doesnt involve a time travelling kirk and spock.

[@push81]

I loved the episode.

[@dugclrk]

Love this show.

[@piotrd.4850]

Phlox led to T'Pol's quarters by her illusion and T'Pol kneeling in front of handbag.....

[@EdiaStanfordBruce]

One Vulcan crew member "disappeared' according to T'Pol's grannie. Did Mistral from the Carbon Creek crash get married and settle down in the Pennsylvania hills? Was there a "Sarek and Amanda" story before the official "First Contact"? Makes for a good tale!

[@toomanyaccounts]

the EU material does detail what happened to him

[@haroldcruz8550]

He probably got captured by the US Government, imprisoned,tortured and died in captivity in Area 51.

[@teriwolfe7092]

He died from an addiction to "I Love Lucy."

[@timmurphy8578]

This episode was one of the greatest Star Trek stories.

[@ryanl2654]

one of the best episodes of all star trek. loved it.

[@rogerlynch5279]

And that was a very good story ! I love the episode CARBON CREEK - TWILGHT ZONE you have missed out on that absolut excellent script !!

[@SantiagoTM1]

That was one of the best Star Trek episodes in the entire Star Trek series. Highly recommended my fellow Trekkies!

[@starwarsphan3159]

I loooooved this episode. It was soooo good. So....human. lol. Loved the baseball fan vulcan lol

[@PaulB-justme]

I still feel that this series was very underestimated - I personally enjoyed it immensely! Although, like all of the Star Trek series, some episodes were better than others - but I was upset by the rather hurried ending.

[@spiritualjoy721]

The ending was absolutely deplorable 😡

[@brucelamberton8819]

This was a good episode.

[@michaelteegarden4116]

Carlsbad Caverns and Yellowstone Park are great places for geologists to visit. She should also have visited White Sands Park in NM. :D

[@davidhutchinson5233]

Great episode. But my favorites are Dear Doctor, Silent Enemy, The Communicator and Two Days and Two Nights. But Carbon Creeks indeed one really good episode.

[@thedrewb2273]

Cool edit, thank you!

[@josephmanno4514]

"Just a formality." She's really quite droll, isn't she?

[@danielsausaman9767]

1.42 , my mother's mother' mother aka T'pol's grand grandmother

[@rogermorris7309]

sure miss this series

[@gaius_enceladus]

She's soooo gorgeous!

[@lcsd863]

This was the BEST episode ❤

[@SymGenie]

2:25 "Please go on.." pour massive amount of liquor to loosen up the lips

[@Methalec1985]

But here's the thing too... Vulcans pride themselves in not lying off hand. Her story was true.

[@Ayeshteni]

Not necessarily. She was asked to tell a story. A fictional tale is not a lie if it is provided as a story.

[@JassZoigel]

Fiction is a lie, and she's drinking something that's not water, she's evolved

[@blackbelt2000]

I remember watching this episode when it first aired but what I couldn't figure out was it actually T'pol's ancestor or T'pol herself. I remember the ending scene where she was looking at the purse(?) in her room which made me believe that it was actually her that crash landed on earth....or maybe it was something that she inherited and was intrigued by her connection to its story.

[@alexandersears8538]

I think when she said she went to Carbon Creek on a "personal matter" that she went there to retrieve her grandmothers purse. It's the same one her grandmother sold to the patent clerk.

[@blackbelt2000]

@@alexandersears8538 ah, that makes sense. Thank you

[@stevenhenry5267]

Excellent episode.

[@AgentExeider]

Just a nitpick, but if I was to have written the line. i would of had Tpol say _"I wanted to see the site of first contact between Vulcans and humans"_ meaning put the Vulcans as the primary subject in the relationship. Let Archer correct, and tell him that was site of first contact between _Humans_ and Vulcans, thus flipping the primaryu subject, which of course would earn raised eye brows from everyone in the room, as to not only ponder what she was getting at, but slightly confused as to the difference between saying Vulcan and Human, and Human and Vulcan. then have her launch into the story.

[@danielsausaman9767]

if it saids "Vucan & Humans" it means when 1st Contect happen from the point of view of the Vulcans ,while if it saids "Human & Vulcans" it referre to when Zefram Cochrane's historic warp drive flight happen ,& then meeting the Vulcans ,,

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