Did Vader Really Intend to Defeat and Kill Luke During Their Episode 6 Duel? (Legends)

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The Non-Canon Expert looks at the true thoughts of Darth Vader both prior and during his duel with his son Luke Skywalker in Episode 6, describing what Vader's true motivations were throughout the duel and whether he actually intended to defeat and kill Luke so he could retain his place as Darth Sidious's apprentice.
This is a Legends story for Darth Vader with information found within the Legends novel "The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader" by Ryder Windham. I hope that you enjoy it!

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@starwarsreadingclub
@starwarsreadingclub 5 жыл бұрын
This video was so fun to put together! It is great to see so many of you are enjoying the recent Darth Vader videos, especially from this scene in Return of the Jedi (which is my favourite scene in Star Wars). I hope that you all enjoy today’s video and thank you for watching!
@derriusalexander259
@derriusalexander259 5 жыл бұрын
What if Luke had actually killed vader
@sbkeel5639
@sbkeel5639 5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree the moment when Vader sacrifices himself to save Luke is my favorite in all of Star Wars!
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 5 жыл бұрын
It’s 1 of those scenes that’s just so powerful that you can relate to it and even be motivated to overcome all evil within as well as without if you are a person who has a high sense of morality 👍🏽
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 5 жыл бұрын
He would have went to the dark side.
@rere960
@rere960 5 жыл бұрын
This was a great video to watch! This is also one my favorite scenes of all time!
@astrobot4017
@astrobot4017 5 жыл бұрын
I think that Palpatine's plan was to make Luke kill Vader and make him become his new apprentice and that Vader's plan was to make Luke kill Palpatine and make him become his new apprentice.
@dhornjr1
@dhornjr1 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's how the Sith work. Palpatine wanted Luke to kill Vader because Luke had more potential due to Vader being severely injured. Vader wanted Luke to join him so they could team up and kill Palpatine.
@frozenfire2634
@frozenfire2634 5 жыл бұрын
Vader did not wanted luke to kill sidious, he litterrally blocked the lightsaber strike from luke which would have ended palpatines life
@rybread1035
@rybread1035 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, if Luke killed Sidious, through some sith logic, Luke would become the new master, Vader needed to be the one to end Palpatine's life, that's why he blocked the strike that would end Palpatine's life (btw this is based off an explanation I saw pls don't kill me)
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 5 жыл бұрын
You heard the man, put your weapons away.
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 5 жыл бұрын
Correct ☑️
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 5 жыл бұрын
“The dark is generous and it is patient and it always wins - but in the heart of its strength lies its weakness: one lone candle is enough to hold it back. Love is more than a candle. Love can ignite the stars.” ― Matthew Stover, Revenge of the Sith
@wyoboy01
@wyoboy01 5 жыл бұрын
I adore that book.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 5 жыл бұрын
ImperialistOpinions perhaps the best film novelisation I’ve read. The fact that it’s not “canon” anymore is no shame since it uses a lot of EU material anyway. EU material superior to canon.
@UnitAlir
@UnitAlir 5 жыл бұрын
How does the dark always win if good and love are so powerful? Does that mean eventually love will die out and evil will win? Doesn't sound very pleasant.
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 5 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, it's a reference to how Anakin fell because he loved ("[...]It is the dark that seeds cruelty into justice, that drips contempt into compassion, that poisons love with grains of doubt. [...]"), but was also redeemed because of it. The dark's strength is in how it can corrupt such positive sentiments, but because they were so positive at the start, they can't be destroyed completely. As long as the dark's triumph originates with love, love can fight back against it.
@nopeace3689
@nopeace3689 5 жыл бұрын
@@UnitAlir because in the end all light dies in the universe where there is life there is also death you can't have one without the other eventually Darkness does when I think and Dragonball there was a line from beerus before there is creation meaning light there has to be destruction meaning darkness
@DaG.O.A.T.
@DaG.O.A.T. 5 жыл бұрын
The entire fight Vader held back cause he was conflicted over his feelings for his son and didn't want too kill him and wanted him too join him in killing sidious and ruling the Galaxy as Father & Son
@urjnlegend
@urjnlegend 5 жыл бұрын
Where are all you guys before this video? Literally never see anyone talking any sense until someone makes a video about it. Not directed towards you, but the rest of y'all afraid to disagree with the rest out here still telling sand jokes and high ground jokes?
@RAJKUMAR-yw5vi
@RAJKUMAR-yw5vi 3 жыл бұрын
But Luke was conflicted you know. He was like father I don't wanna fight you in that scene. 🙄
@Darth-vade123
@Darth-vade123 3 жыл бұрын
@@RAJKUMAR-yw5vi I was more conflicted then him not striking at him when I could Vader tried to hit me multiple times and stated if that is your destiny so be it
@cucumberwater6
@cucumberwater6 3 жыл бұрын
Luke was held back even more, straight up refusing to fight Vader whereas Vader although conflicted had no problem attacking his son.
@KruitonsRGud
@KruitonsRGud 5 жыл бұрын
One might say Vader realized Palpatine turned him back into a slave and he didn't want that for his son as well. If there was one thing Anakin/Vader hated it was having someone control you and tell you what you can/cant do
@corymccarty8603
@corymccarty8603 5 жыл бұрын
For a long time I have suspected that Luke didn't beat Vader alone. He had Anakin's help.
@nickcapella2440
@nickcapella2440 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di 4 жыл бұрын
Yep his father held his opponent back so his son could win
@raydiaz2772
@raydiaz2772 3 жыл бұрын
@@Orto-jj2di I like that idea like a hand on his shoulder.
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di 3 жыл бұрын
@@raydiaz2772 exactly
@Speb101
@Speb101 3 жыл бұрын
Woah dude that is a new level of poetic
@gabethebabe3337
@gabethebabe3337 5 жыл бұрын
And to think Disney is going to destroy this iconic moment by bringing Sidious back for fan service. I know he showed up in the EU as a clone, but everyone I’ve talked to HATES that story. Bringing back Palpatine in any way completely diminishes Anakin redemption, and that is the single greatest moment in Star Wars period.
@therealdonnawagner
@therealdonnawagner 5 жыл бұрын
Even if it's only in flashbacks? Uhhhh... no.
@DaG.O.A.T.
@DaG.O.A.T. 5 жыл бұрын
Dark empire was an amazing story and doesn't diminish Anakin's redemption cuz he actually did die Sidious dead but he just transferred himself into a clone of himself and for the longest time there was balance in the Galaxy
@sethwinters3556
@sethwinters3556 5 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping he doesn't come back in the flesh, just more as a dark energy or presence but it's hard to say what they'll do
@deadshot5007
@deadshot5007 5 жыл бұрын
What about ghost palapatine? And even if he's a live it doesn't change Anakin's redemption.
@dionr1168
@dionr1168 5 жыл бұрын
That's why if Sidious comes back, so too must Anakin.
@BlyUehara37
@BlyUehara37 5 жыл бұрын
Episode 6 was a beautiful movie
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 5 жыл бұрын
Was? It still is.
@SirDankleberry
@SirDankleberry 4 жыл бұрын
The sequels ruined it.
@TeurastajaNexus
@TeurastajaNexus 4 жыл бұрын
@@SirDankleberry Yes.. it shall be known as the tragedy of Star Wars.
@Specoups
@Specoups 4 жыл бұрын
It was really imperfect compared to 4 and 5, but it was the most emotional really. The acting and direction were fantastic, the writing was just a bit lacking.
@darknightbegins85
@darknightbegins85 5 жыл бұрын
Just makes me realize even more how perfect an ending Jedi was and how the story needed to stop there. Damn it
@professionalgamer6522
@professionalgamer6522 5 жыл бұрын
In canon In ESB he was testing him In ROTJ he had great conflict
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 5 жыл бұрын
Correct ☑️
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 5 жыл бұрын
Vader lied❗️
@ATalesTruth-
@ATalesTruth- 5 жыл бұрын
So the question remains that they both were holding back during the dual, but if both were to fight at there fullest who would have won Ps don’t just give this win to Vader for the simple fact of experience, for Luke is said to be ready by yoda himself and he was intending Luke to face Vader as if there was not going to be inner conflict, not only that but even thou he has little training, Luke is said to be anakin equal in both physique and force potential, the main difference is anakin had all the training he could ever need handed to him but he squandered it because he thought he was still beater then everyone with little training which is one of the many reasons why he lost to owi won, Luke however not having full training treated it has a true student of the force for he trusted it and it favored him because of that it favored him more then his father(anakin relied on his own talents in everything with the force meaning he didn’t train like his Jedi master, if he did the force push in ROTS would have decimated any force push), even luke’s skills with a lightsaber would have succeeded anakin’s if given the same experience for he mastered form 5 of lightsaber combat 3 years before his father the difference between Luke skills and his fathers is the fact that the only opponent he has faced in with a dual it is own father no one else, my point of all this being Vader defeated anakin for the reasons above but Luke is said to be ready(even the emperor admits this) then what are the chances,(I have my own conclusion what are yours?)
@professionalgamer6522
@professionalgamer6522 5 жыл бұрын
@@ATalesTruth- Darth Vader at his fullest would destroy fullest Luke
@ATalesTruth-
@ATalesTruth- 5 жыл бұрын
Thatgamer pro97 explain, Luke is said to be Vader’s equal at that point and has everything he needs to beat him the only difference is their experience but Vader hasn’t fought someone who is equal to his force potential till he lost it after his injuries, nor has he faced someone with the same level of talent Anakin
@michaelledford4751
@michaelledford4751 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just a mild Star Wars fan seeing how I'm 75 years old & was an adult retired US Marine when the 1st Star Wars movie came out ,however,I find these readings and telling of lore more interesting than watching any Star Wars movie that isn't part of the original trilogy,you bring up interesting lore and do a great job how you present these readings ,I'm a massive fan of audible Sci-fi books with hundreds of books and radio serials saved in my profile ,which means I've listened to dozens of excellent readers ,this reader is right up there in the top 3 sci-fi readers of all time .
@dutchvanderlinde6654
@dutchvanderlinde6654 5 жыл бұрын
Hey shut up you Trump supporter!
@davidordaz5251
@davidordaz5251 5 жыл бұрын
Micah Bell dude show some respect he fought for our country man geez he’s not showing hate towards you 😓😓
@dutchvanderlinde6654
@dutchvanderlinde6654 5 жыл бұрын
David Ordaz I ain’t showing no respect for no Trump supporter. He obviously didn’t care about America when he voted for that sorry sack of shit, so why should I show him respect?
@dutchvanderlinde6654
@dutchvanderlinde6654 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Ledford You. You’re going to Hell for what you did. You voted for satan.
@michaelledford4751
@michaelledford4751 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidordaz5251 Sadly it's impossible to expect that young man to show respect when his teachers ,his news media,social media & Facebook peers have all been indoctrinated to Hate and be violent against their own countrymen, I m used to his kind,they spit on me and my brother's when we came home from Vietnam,and their hatred is much much more pathalogical now,only the academia has taught them not to attack soldiers sailors and Marines anymore because of the horrible optics ,what's really sad is that I'd give any young American needing help the shirt off my back and he'd beat me over the head with a bike lock & be honored by his friends for doing it,they know so little they can't see the hatred of fellow countrymen is destroying America ,at best it will lead to a civil war he can't hope to win with casualties higher than America's civil war ,thank you for sticking up for me on GP,that's what Americans are supposed to do,there's nothing that can be said or done to stop the absolute disgusting hate he feels twords me because I didn't vote how he voted ,somebody please tell me how that mentality is sane,or a plus for America ?
@Wowreference
@Wowreference 5 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how much was going on in Vader's head during this fight. It's so sad that he was just trying to protect his son, not kill him. Vader is such a well-crafted villain.
@8ByteBrian
@8ByteBrian 5 жыл бұрын
@1:24 *"As Vader left the throne room to travel to the moon"* *Thank God for context or else this sentence just makes Vader sound crazy*
@Kainlarsen
@Kainlarsen 5 жыл бұрын
"...You don't know the power of the dark side, I *must* obey my master."
@nikolatodorov6639
@nikolatodorov6639 4 жыл бұрын
Vader:Or should I
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 5 жыл бұрын
This video has changed the whole way I watch this duel. Now I can feel the love, confusion, and concern Vader was going through.
@DarrelsWonderland
@DarrelsWonderland 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Luke: I learned the high ground technique! Great video man, as always. Honored to watch!
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 5 жыл бұрын
And then Vader saw his demonstration and threw his lightsaber to destroy his greatest nemesis, the High Ground.
@DarrelsWonderland
@DarrelsWonderland 5 жыл бұрын
And thus The High Ground has been beaten!
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarrelsWonderland Old man Luke (who I disagree with): "No one is ever really gone". *The* *High* *Ground* *rises*
@darkelmer
@darkelmer 5 жыл бұрын
is it bad I consider legends more cannon then the new movies
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, I consider Spaceballs as canon over the new stuff, and that's a parody movie made in the 80's by Mel Brooks.
@urjnlegend
@urjnlegend 5 жыл бұрын
The new movies are fanfiction, they're not canon, so it makes sense to fill in the gaps with more real star wars content. What Disney is doing isnt star wars.
@coolcatttttt8
@coolcatttttt8 4 жыл бұрын
darkelmer there canon
@Vikashar
@Vikashar 4 жыл бұрын
No
@darthgeros5863
@darthgeros5863 4 жыл бұрын
@@urjnlegend Ok...
@Mysteryof89
@Mysteryof89 5 жыл бұрын
That was so awesome :) I think Legends Vader is much more interesting than canon
@analucampos4362
@analucampos4362 4 жыл бұрын
episode 6:*makes the most emotional scene on history* *episode 9 enters the chat* Episode 9:HOW DARE U!
@Sonofgrievous
@Sonofgrievous 5 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite SW content channel. Thanks for the great work
@christiannewaye7306
@christiannewaye7306 5 жыл бұрын
That was his literal son The only reason he joined the Darkside was because he believed his twins died when she felt in the force and assumed were alive and after losing them the emperor was the only person he could consider a friend even though the competition wasn’t that fierce (in the words of Arthur Morgan). I think in its own way it was more of a suicide by combat he lost his will to continue knowing that he became the thing That he swore to destroy and was going to destroy the only thing they gave his life a new purpose.
@generalgrievous4579
@generalgrievous4579 5 жыл бұрын
Just got home from school finally time to be in my feelings about my lord Vader once again Edit: and now once again, i have to respect the man that is Darth Vader or should i say Anakin Skywalker, to think he was feeling like this the entire time and was so conflicted. Honestly every time i watch Vader vs Luke i always thought that there was a lot more going through Vader's head but to know the extent, man it hurts on a spiritual level.
@frasergibson5763
@frasergibson5763 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always pictured Vader having an image of Padme and hearing her saying ‘save him’ right in the moments before he destroyed Palpatine, and that being the moment he knew he should never have turned to the Dark Side
@realistreset8336
@realistreset8336 5 жыл бұрын
Anakin/Vader was always a slave except for two brief occasions. Slave to Wato. Slave as a monastic Jedi minion. Slave as a dark side initiate brutally carrying Palpatine's agenda. Then slave to his cybernetics at the behest of the Emperor. His brief exposure to the teachings of Qui Gon Jinn were neither defined by or against the Jedi. It was true agency. Then finally, he was liberated by his son. As Luke saw himself behind Vader's mask on Dahobah, Vader could see redemption for himself in Luke. Anakin could finally reclaim his identity. his identity. Star Wars is Faustian that nobody but someone like Ian McDiarmid could have played the Emperor.
@velociraptorgod110
@velociraptorgod110 5 жыл бұрын
I think Luke would have not sirvived a fight if Vader wanted him dead, but I really think Vader would be able to kill Sidius if he truely wanted...
@Dylan_AlphaLoneKing
@Dylan_AlphaLoneKing 5 жыл бұрын
Nope
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 5 жыл бұрын
Not alone, now, maybe a handful of times outta 100 would suit Vader as we know him wouldve EVER been able to match Palpatine in power or duel ability after his horrendous Mustufar injuries. Odds were if things hadn't played out as they did Vader would've either eventually been replaced or lived out his life under Sideous' shadow unless the Sith Highlord died of old age or something like that
@RIKARDO1172
@RIKARDO1172 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Agu Vader is now canonically a better duelist than Sidious where as Sidious still has power. Another thing is Palpatine in recent canon even notes that Vader's Force potential is only being hindered by his mental state (Melancholy, depression) and is very wary of him should he finally "get over it." So I think it's safe to say that Vader could kill Palpatine if he truly wanted to, but sadly he is hindering himself with Palpatine taking advantage of the fact.
@majorastorm
@majorastorm 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure if Luke and Vader had Prep, They could of adjusted Vader's suit so it wouldn't be so vulnerable to shock. That was Palpatine's failsafe is Vader ever betrayed him.
@fabiocosta3830
@fabiocosta3830 5 жыл бұрын
@@majorastorm plus uncalibrated prosthetics that required more mental effort, and a suit that caused him eternal discomfort and hindered his true agility. Palpatine made sure he would handicap Anakin as much as possible so it ain't be a threat anytime soon.
@RetroSoulGirl
@RetroSoulGirl 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is the ultimate therapy for me. No matter how helpless and doomed your situation and choices may be, there is always hope and a chance for change.
@sabretron2352
@sabretron2352 5 жыл бұрын
Hello There Star Wars Reading Club. I always understood that Vader never truly had any desire to kill Luke but simply sway him to his side. However, I was never quite so sure what exactly what was going through Vader's mind until you gave us this amazing video. The information maybe classified as Legends but to me, it is still regarded as canon in my personal head canon. I love the detail that went into Vader's thoughts from the book and that it all makes sense as Vader never truly wanted to kill his son at all. He simply didn't want to let Luke be killed or be turned by Sidious. He just wasn't sure of what to do at that moment. He knew the time was right when Sidious was so focused on killing Luke that Vader saw his chance and took it before it was too late. Thanks for the new video Star Wars Reading Club and may the Force be with you!
@lando8913
@lando8913 5 жыл бұрын
So much going on under that big shiny black dome.
@bradn1975
@bradn1975 5 жыл бұрын
Vader never intended to kill Luke. His plan was to turn Luke to the Dark Side and for them to destroy the Emperor and " Rule the Galaxy as Father and Son." He was also conflicted by his feelings for his son and when Luke released his anger he wasn't able to stand up to his assault.
@satmtca
@satmtca 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the vision and actually seeing the green light saber reminded him of Quigon Gin, his Saber and how Gin had hoped so much for him all those years ago
@WrenTheGrey
@WrenTheGrey 4 жыл бұрын
This psychological breakdown is insightful. Keep em coming😊
@nickdraco8435
@nickdraco8435 5 жыл бұрын
This is literally my favorite episode you put together. Thanks for the well-spent 8:30mins. Good work!!
@MardukeTheRaven
@MardukeTheRaven 5 жыл бұрын
The only channel from which I watch and enjoy legends videos. Keep up!
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 5 жыл бұрын
Eckharts Ladder does a decent job, most of his Star Wars videos are about different ships though.
@summer20105707
@summer20105707 5 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader / Anakin skywalker was a brave warrior. Although tormented the goodness in him never died out. It just needed something to rekindle it. He fulfilled his destiny and brought balance to the force as the chosen one. All along he was simply a vessel of the force fulfilling his destiny. An amazing story.
@ladyv5655
@ladyv5655 5 жыл бұрын
Seems that a real game changer was when Vader was able to get into Luke's mind and learn that Luke had a sister. Luke came closer to turning to the dark side to protect her than at any time. It's kind of like how Anakin turned to try to save Padme. Except knowing about Leia raised the stakes for Vader. Now he not only had to protect Luke, but himself too. Since Sidious also learned about Leia at the same time, there would be nothing to stop him from killing both Luke and Vader and then making her the new apprentice. Someone was going to have to die there.
@gamintrucker1016
@gamintrucker1016 5 жыл бұрын
Vader would've killed Luke if that's what he wanted.
@Oscar61985
@Oscar61985 5 жыл бұрын
William Varner It’s important to note that Luke was physically stronger with the force than Vader, by this point. It’s Vader’s mind games that caused Luke to lose his cool.
@Uknowjusticemill
@Uknowjusticemill 5 жыл бұрын
@@Oscar61985 Vader was 10X the duelist luke was, he was slightly weaker in the force but his experience and 30 years of training made him the better force user using the darkside with its many abilities. Luke did not have offensive force powers that would work on vader. Vader had superhuman strength thanks to his suit and unlimited oxygen for his stamina he could fight for hours. Vader was just holding his son off to stall but his taunting of leia made luke rage and vader lost control of the duel and lost his hand, if vader was not confused he would of made quick work of his son he's the greatest Jedi killer to live, Grandmaster luke would dominate vader though.
@Oscar61985
@Oscar61985 5 жыл бұрын
Jt Hopkins Proving my point further. That Luke was stronger in the force at this point, but his outburst being an example of how young a Jedi he really was, at this point. But, again. Even with Vader being the Superior duelist, Luke’s connection with the Force and him embracing his Destiny of being the next “Chosen One”, is what allowed him to overpower Vader, here.
@darthsidious2561
@darthsidious2561 5 жыл бұрын
They were equals ^^
@cc0767
@cc0767 5 жыл бұрын
You cant be physically strong in the force. Neither the force nor physics work like that
@vulthurmir2478
@vulthurmir2478 5 жыл бұрын
The mix of your story telling and the music in the background managed to get me to cry a bit, and I can't cry even if I want to. This video just made me feel touched quite a bit, probably because I never had a chance to even see a photo of my father, so seeing Anakin going through such range of emotions for Luke--son he still barely knew--just hit a lot.
@tntkff9901
@tntkff9901 4 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: "Strike me down with your anger!" Luke: "Okay - (Ka-slice!)" Palpatine: "VADER! WHAT THE HELL MAN! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BLOCK THAT!" Vader: "Oh, sorry Palps, I was distracted with the memories of you *screwing me over about Padme* ..." Palpatine: "....oh, right. Forgot about that.... Bleh💀
@brynstarkiller7419
@brynstarkiller7419 5 жыл бұрын
No.He thought he wanted Luke to rule the galaxy with h but deep down he wanted love & a relationship with alike & an end to his suffering
@guynamedlyder
@guynamedlyder 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your in-depth analysis expressing the love of a father. Perhaps such love told Luke that Anakin still lives inside Vader despite the crossing blade. Anyway you make Star War more human by a simple thing, love.
@spitt0110
@spitt0110 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I really like these deep dives and thoughts behind characters and story interactions, I had not watched episodes 4,5,6, in some time and I did not put together the similar dooku battle thought process that makes tons of sense now.
@datznomoon6114
@datznomoon6114 5 жыл бұрын
Luke was on the same strength level as Vader but not on the same force category, Luke could defend against Vaders force powers to a certain degree.but Luke was using psychological warfare on his father to prevent the sith lord from gaining force rage
@skatefoil123
@skatefoil123 4 жыл бұрын
As it's stated in a graphic novel, Luke had a "battle of equals" with Vader, but, as confirmed in this video, it was because Vader was holding back and only parrying, while trying to fuel Luke's Dark Side to make the latter join him against The Emperor. Luke was an "equal" to Vader because Vader was holding back, not wanting to be killed but also not wanting to kill Luke, just fuel the Dark Side in him. Ultimately, it got completely out of control and he tripped, causing Luke to find an opening and defeat Vader. But if Vader actually went all out on Luke, then he would probably win.
@nikolatodorov6639
@nikolatodorov6639 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by the same strenght level
@datznomoon6114
@datznomoon6114 4 жыл бұрын
Nikola Todorov luke could hold his own against vaders lightsaber strong style but in terms of force abilities Luke only used it for stamina and force shields since he wasn’t still on the same force level as vader
@stuartnaknakim9441
@stuartnaknakim9441 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!
@ironcityblue
@ironcityblue 5 жыл бұрын
He knew it was modeled after Obi Wan's saber and knew that that one too would also end up defeating him. It was then he accepted his destiny to submit to his true master Obi Wan's destiny as his trainer and do as he was instructed and finally destroy the sith.
@aquarianage3953
@aquarianage3953 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! That last image with Count Dooku was funny!😆👍
@DavidWonn
@DavidWonn 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, Vader just wanted to give his son a hand for his efforts.
@samilou
@samilou 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. And without some hand, you can't be hand-some.
@Good_Watch
@Good_Watch 4 жыл бұрын
@@samilou thhhhaaaaaat just sounded gaaaaay
@rafaelo.2861
@rafaelo.2861 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin: *redeems himself in killing Palpatine, forever proving that he was in fact the chosen one* J.J Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy: “Thats a nice finale to Anakin Skywalker’s arc. Would be a shame if someone were to...throw all the importance of Anakin’s redemption out the window...”
@dannyvestal299
@dannyvestal299 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been so bad ass for Luke to become Vaders apprentice. They could have took Sidious! One way or another.
@davidvasquez08
@davidvasquez08 5 жыл бұрын
When Vader threw Sidious over the edge not only Vader finally having the HIGH GROUND for the first and only time but also probably scoring a three pointer in a basketball game
@armoda1057
@armoda1057 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin should've considered ignoring his visions, since he always drew the wrong conclusion from analyzing them
@jeffreyconner2937
@jeffreyconner2937 2 жыл бұрын
Vader realized that Papaltine had lied and deceived all of those years. It makes sense why he would want to kill the emperor.
@ernestoescobar1967
@ernestoescobar1967 5 жыл бұрын
It was a like Anakin vs Dooku allover again
@Slick_Nick11
@Slick_Nick11 5 жыл бұрын
This is how I feel every time I'm in a good light saber duel in Star Wars Battlefront 2 and I don't want it to finish them off to quickly because of how enjoyable it is.
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 5 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world, Legends content would be analyzed and filtered into stuff that is allowed to be part of Canon (if it’s so good that it should remain /deserves to be canon) and stuff that doesn’t.
@therealdonnawagner
@therealdonnawagner 5 жыл бұрын
You know I love me some Vader! 😍😍😍 Great video! Thanks for sharing and keep up the awesome work!
@SCUBAelement-Intl
@SCUBAelement-Intl 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful vid this was your best yet!!
@danson1992
@danson1992 5 жыл бұрын
Star wars is really the greatest story ever told.. no matter how deep you fall into the darkness you can always come back to the light with one simple choice, its beautiful
@bluelick7578
@bluelick7578 5 жыл бұрын
I always beleived, and still do to some extend, that Vader got himself ready to die to save his son. As Vader knew what was coming and he did tell Luke : -In time, you will call him master as I have. I though Vader only wanted Luke to unlock the power of the dark side within, but he knew he could not run away from his fate with the emperor. So Luke would HAVE to take his place. Only he would not be injured and crippled as Vader was, and may yet become strong enough to defeat the emperor, as he intended so long ago.
@Gor85
@Gor85 5 жыл бұрын
This is very touching.Moving. Thanks :)
@carlosvelasquez331
@carlosvelasquez331 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader: "rule with my Son, OH JOY!" Sidious: force lightning* Darth: force throw beats lightning- GOODBYEEE
@shariqchaudhari
@shariqchaudhari 5 жыл бұрын
Meaningful callbacks indeed! Good video 🙂
@elgindor
@elgindor 4 жыл бұрын
There is no greater love than giving your life for another.
@johnart3181
@johnart3181 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos!
@lavendergoosegames9336
@lavendergoosegames9336 5 жыл бұрын
So good , thanks for making this 👍
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 5 жыл бұрын
Sideous's lack of perception at Endor seems to me to show the Obi Wan & Yoda after becoming one with the force were able to cloud his vision, more & more I come to believe that their deaths are far far more important than it may at first seem, lending ever more wait to Kenobi's words "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine".
@bellah-1supercobra513
@bellah-1supercobra513 5 жыл бұрын
Assuming Luke really did cut down Vader, what exactly is stopping Luke from turning around and leaving (barring Sidious himself)? Does Sidious really think that any worthy Force user falling to the dark side automatically means said user would join Sidious?
@tendopain2291
@tendopain2291 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason i personally dont call the "reformed" vader anakin, because in my opinion, when anakin turned to the dark/vader its like the bad side in him just wins control over the good/light one, because its stronger at the time. but i dont think Anakin was being completely erased, because vader obviously has anakins training, combat experience and skill. I think, or it at least makes more sense to me, that vader is the combination of Anakin and, well, vader - essentially the bad in him. also, i dont really think his actual "converting" was just because he suddenly became a bad person, but because of his - natural - feelings and wishes and desires. In my opinion he just gets influenced too much, at early age by the light, to be a jedi, and then by palpatine/the "dark" to become a sith, when really he should have been neutral - a force user - due to his meaning of existence > perfect balance. and you cant have that with either the one or the other (being jedi and sith) being stronger. If you accept that, it makes more sense that vader is just anakins true form, a combination of both sides, but being called vader because vader agreed to learn the dark as well, thus becoming the balanced being that he should´ve been from the start. Now maybe I´m just thinking bullshit but if anyone can see my point / thinks the same lemme know.
@metube8924
@metube8924 5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean episode 3 because it was the third star wars movie ever made
@emperorceejay1655
@emperorceejay1655 5 жыл бұрын
What's the background theme? Makes you feel the emotions while watching it
@jet34thehawk
@jet34thehawk 5 жыл бұрын
Wow is crazy star wars episode 6 was
@Kite403
@Kite403 5 жыл бұрын
*manly tears shed* Rock on, you cyborg star. Definitely adds anew dimension to the end of that movie :)
@danielblair4413
@danielblair4413 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Vader either consciously or sub-consciously was blocking Palpatine from sensing Luke.
@wiibrockster
@wiibrockster 5 жыл бұрын
I'd have liked to have seen a Comic or Novel set in an alternate timeline where Luke joined Sidious.
@grantchristian6398
@grantchristian6398 5 жыл бұрын
See the alternate timeline when Luke joined Vader on cloud city during Empire Strikes Back, as Vader put it, ``TO RULE THE GALAXY AS FATHER & SON.``
@TheDba82
@TheDba82 5 жыл бұрын
@@grantchristian6398 yea that would be awesome
@leiferikson850
@leiferikson850 5 жыл бұрын
afaik the Star wars "Tales" series (what-if stories) has such a story. You should look that up.
@jamescastleberry2562
@jamescastleberry2562 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode as always.
@sward1989sw
@sward1989sw 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Vader he was fighting no more, Anakin was back and within his own conflict was waiting for the right moment to strike back!
@jaredbanister6880
@jaredbanister6880 Жыл бұрын
After at the hands of Obi-Wan and the fact he wore that robotic suit, Vader was technically weaker. However, to make up for this he became possibly the best duelist ever and more importantly used hid hate to increase his abilities. He couldn't hate Luke though because he was the one last connection to Padme he had as far as he knew.
@Matteo-lq8oi
@Matteo-lq8oi 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Vader stop Luke from killing the emperor was so he won't turn to the dark side
@xriegle
@xriegle 11 ай бұрын
For meaningful callbacks!
@carlosdelacadiz6658
@carlosdelacadiz6658 5 жыл бұрын
If Vader intended to kill Luke than Luke would be dead. Only Sidious was really capable of defeating Vader at that point.
@kyotaiken
@kyotaiken 5 жыл бұрын
This makes so much God damned sense. Too bad Vader didn't let his blade "slip" slightly when blocking Luke's swing at Sidious. Either allowing Luke's blade to slide down his to hit sidious, or letting Luke's blade push both blades into sidious. Or instead of lifting sidious with his own body, coulda used the force to lift or move or push sidious over that railing. One odd thing though, that I've always wondered, if Dooku was a master of "Force Fly", and having taught it to Sora Bulq, how come Sidious never adopted it from Dooku, or even bothered to learn it on his own. It could have saved him.
@AbracaDanielll
@AbracaDanielll 5 жыл бұрын
Luke/Vader and Luke/Maul would be such cool alternative stories
@fornogoodreason551
@fornogoodreason551 5 жыл бұрын
best start wars channel
@BungieStudios
@BungieStudios 5 жыл бұрын
I mean the film made it pretty obvious that Vader wanted to try and turn Luke so they both could defeat Palpatine and take over. He was willing to die before killing his son. Him being defeated showed that clearly. It was over for him at that point. Either Luke could join Sidious and strike down his father to replace him or stand true as a Jedi and be killed by Sidious. Vader allowed himself to be defeated and I don't know how Sidious would feel about that after Luke was dead. Case in point: Anakin was yet again conflicted.
@shinnok4941
@shinnok4941 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you change the old music? It was very good.
@timothywilson5447
@timothywilson5447 5 жыл бұрын
Vader could have killed Luke in Empire Strikes Back if he wanted to lucky for Luke Vader was a Rebel Spy not a Sith Lord
@jessejamesknight5808
@jessejamesknight5808 4 жыл бұрын
We need to know if Chewbacca ever loans the millennium falcon to Hondo Ohnaka!??
@Aerex12
@Aerex12 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Where did you find the picture you are using for the thumbnail?
@jasonwilliams4456
@jasonwilliams4456 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job, helps explain why Vader did so poorly in that last saber fight.
@prime1173
@prime1173 4 жыл бұрын
When he said vader did not want Luke to be Palpatine slave it showed that he did not want his son to follow his path it made me think anakin was indeed still alive.
@Lerna_Arier
@Lerna_Arier 4 жыл бұрын
I think Vader should take in his head the possibility of the variant we saw in reality almost after he saw Luke's new lightsaber. If Luke never turn to the Dark Side he risked to be tortured by Palpatine with his forcelightings. This situation on the one hand give a possibility to kill Palpatine because he would loose his control, but n the other hand how to help Luke to survive? Vader knew everything about pain. So his idea could be make Luke angry enough for the anger reduce the pain.
@loboraziel
@loboraziel 5 жыл бұрын
that really touch me at the core
@graemeparrington2841
@graemeparrington2841 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a reaction video to the Legends story of "Ellie"? (I think that's the title?) It's the story of an imprisoned rebel pilot Tay Vanis & his droid "Ellie". From an '83 or '84 comic. I had it in a 1984 annual. It should be more well known. It's so bittersweet. Brilliant writing.
@Captainkebbles1392
@Captainkebbles1392 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda saw it as Vader wanted to test Luke and make sure he was skilled enough, but if he refused to fight or even was easily beaten he would kill him. Simply put, he was a slave and unless Luke could somehow defeat the emperor he was screwed Or..if the Emperor was distracted;)
@yoshikagekira5196
@yoshikagekira5196 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on what would have happened if Mace listened to Anakin and hadn't tried to kill Palpatine.
@CiabanItReal
@CiabanItReal 5 жыл бұрын
I left a like for * Meaningful Call backs*
@Dargili
@Dargili 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this video.
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 5 жыл бұрын
Wow nice job! I like your videos even more...
@haydenhight738
@haydenhight738 3 жыл бұрын
I think Vader intended to do the bare minimum too keep just above Luke in power but did get overpowered, people say that the only reason Luke won is because Vader was caught off guard but he had plenty of time to react to Luke’s rage I wasn’t like 3 seconds it was a good 15 sexonda
@majorastorm
@majorastorm 5 жыл бұрын
"Darth Vader's Master, but not Anakin Skywalker!"
@ahnonamos
@ahnonamos 5 жыл бұрын
Great insights!
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