State Champ Wrestler vs EVERY BJJ Belt

[@nak4651]

Kudos to the Wrestling Champion for taking on all these belts in the same session. He must be in fantastic condition.

[@Nomovement120]

Lol r u kidding me

[@jonathanmosher72]

He trained in jujitsu so the video is fake AF.

[@Wenum32]

I thought the same I'm like this dude has got to be winded af by now

[@evanslack9625]

@@jonathanmosher72 bro every wrestler has trained a little bit of bjj just for fun good luck finding a high level wrester who hasn't

[@jonathanmosher72]

@@evanslack9625 I know several. I know only one wrestler who's actually ever participated in MMA or jujitsu. I know collegiate and state champions.

[@Monscent]

I dont get the whole "omg bjj is so bad because a high level wrestler can do so well vs low to medium belts" narrative. They have many years of HARD grappling practice and built up TONS of strength. Wrestlers are grapplers. Its like saying "omg how can a high level thai boxer do better than 2-year hobbyist boxers, in boxing?!"

[@MMAoracle]

Perfect analogy

[@junolanding558]

A great unemotional breakdown! Objectivity gets lost between tribes!

[@TreyYork1]

It's because martial arts schools *sometimes* become something closer to cults than a place for enthusiasts to, and even professionals to connect and explore! It's ironic how the methodology can become doctrine... and yet probably the most classic story of how things become perverted

[@Super3asterd]

Maybe if you talking about McKrotty. Most bjj schools you have to compete to move up, and it takes time. In fact I've never personally heard of any outside of online classes. I rarely see high school wrestlers lose to anything but high ranking bjj players. There is merit to the arguement, especially when the efficiency of bjj is so often blown up and touted as the best system ever. Not saying it's a certainty, but there IS merit to the arguement even at the hobbyist vs JV level.

[@keithstrickland4390]

​@@Super3asterd our school is a strictly jujutsu school that promotes based on understanding of the techniques and not in competition. The issue with competition schools is the fact that very few people have long careers with it because of the amount of injuries that happen. I'm a father of two who doesn't care about plastic medals and only trains so that I can go home safely to my family every night. I want to still be able to train in my later years so I train that way.

[@WhitebeltDG]

State champ wrestler at a white belt comp is savage lol

[@dannydonnelly8198]

@@saltysourdough it really depends on the state and the division of that state

[@CaPnBaLlBaG]

@@saltysourdough The problem is that it's all honor system unless somebody snitches. I've competed a lot at white and blue belt and have never once been asked if I have any wrestling experience. There's usually just a blurb in the rules about wrestlers (and Judo black belts) needing to register at minimum blue for gi or intermediate in nogi and that's it.

[@CaPnBaLlBaG]

@@saltysourdough very true. Smooth comp kinda keeps track but if you aren’t reporting your belts, it doesn’t matter. There are kinda tells on smoothcomp like a white belt with 28 tournaments under his belt probably shouldn’t be a white belt, but they aren’t very strict about it. I do think the white belt division should be protected though. Brand new grapplers don’t need to be competing against experienced wrestlers.

[@lucianowebdev8686]

If you compete in Massachusetts, that's all you will find. The guy that beat me when I was a white belt, he's still a white belt 3 yrs later. I guess they love to be sandbaggers up there.

[@stackered]

I beat one in my first tournament after 3 months of training. Granted I was being recruited D1 for 2 sports, I had no prior grappling experience. Took his back and choked the sandbagger. This was in 2007 in a elite tier wrestling state

[@nikosgaming5695]

As a chunky blue belt with no athletic experience, I love watching upper belts beat up these wrestlers, because I sure can’t 😂

[@GTchum]

Not with that attitude

[@jwerdy5179]

Wrestlers dominate in real fighting. Its easy to look for armbars when wrestlers can't smash your nose with elbows. Very dangerous to be on your back in a real fight. But you little bjj boys are safe in your gym with your little rules. Congrats to your upper belts for beating non jiu jitsu practitioners in jiu jitsu

[@justixeyt1026]

@@jwerdy5179wrestlers get submitted all the time in ufc and mma

[@keanenfulton4696]

​@jwerdy5179 lol we got a badass over here. How bout we stop with the tribal bullshit and just enjoy the art 👌

[@jwerdy5179]

@@justixeyt1026 They also dominate. Jon Jones and Khabib are the 2 greatest ever

[@nba_fan7214]

The fact this guy can hang with purple belts after what like 2 months of BJJ training is pretty nuts. Wrestlers are just a different breed

[@ronaldbearer4747]

It really shows how much of a similar language they are, that years in one can count towards years in the other

[@mr.okanefan3218]

Wrestlers, especially those who go on to win state championships often times start very young. He may have been doing jiu jitsu for 2 months, but grappling is grappling whether it's judo wrestling etc and that man has likely been grappling for close to a decade

[@Testoider]

Not a different breed but, the conditioning is different. You can also ask questions to who you are drilling with or rolling with to get better (maybe the bjj gym i went to was not the norm but my partner would ask me to ask the teacher after we were done). Also, it is 5 or more days a week of like 2-3 practice depedning on the high-school and there is a huge emphasis on conditioning. Some bjj classes will have you do some push up and some warm up stuff but hs wrestling really sets up up to be more explosive. Many wreslers will tell you "go hard" when you wrestle but bjj generally want you to be calmer with your movements since pinning means nothing and since you can hurt someone if you jerk a sub. Wrestled in hs for last year. I have to say it is more fun than bjj.

[@Arcadianx98]

Not really. You have to find a state CHAMPION wrestler to get these results against an average BJJ person at a gym. It’s a theme I notice in most KZbin videos with wrestlers against BJJ, it’s always one or the best wrestlers against an average BJJ dude.

[@braxtonmarshall1883]

Nobody believes me when I tell them I submitted 2 purple belts my first week in jiu-jitsu, I wrestled for 10 years so it's about the same time as a brown belt has put in. But I did get triangle choked by a brown belt 30 lbs lighter than me the same day 😂 Grappling is grappling, I just needed to learn more submissions than the basics. Wrestlers are about control so that's what I did. I just thought about position over submission. And ended up getting a rear naked and an Americana

[@kevindadswell603]

As a wrestler who has rolled with bjj guys I have one tip- never attempt a double leg takedown! Use armdrags or bodylocks and the occasional outside single leg.

[@biggunsnum123]

As wrestler with a purple belt in BJJ, always go for a double leg. Shrug your shoulders and maintain posture/head position. Good technique will save you from getting choked.

[@DrewHop325]

Or just learn how to kickbox and work takedown defense and hard punches, Dan Heno Henderson baby... lol

[@tnkklr2011]

Double leg, chin up.

[@the-ironclad]

@@DrewHop325good luck with that lol

[@DrewHop325]

@@the-ironclad You ever herd of GSP??? Or Laoda Macheta???

[@soloh5843]

They are all so very talented. It's amazing to watch these guys show different techniques.

[@PatrickVentura-k3h]

Josh is a beast! He should keep training! A great addition to the jiujitsu world!

[@Arthur-nr5ci]

Given my 20+ years of grappling experience, that went almost exactly as I thought it would. State champion wrestler means he could probably be a DI or DII wrestler. They need about two months of jiujitsu before they can hang with most purples and above without getting subbed.

[@tededo]

Well wait watch you metric. I did 4 years of freestyle and greco prior to BJJ. And my first submissions succeeded vs blue belts. Took me about 3 private classes to accomplish that. I picked up things very fast back then. The advance white belts and early blues were puzzled by how I could get the best of em in less than one month of BJJ. Little secret, I watch Frank Shamrock on VHS tapes prior to my first classes, hi, hi, hi.

[@theratrace2153]

@@tededo why you lyin bruh? It won't help you in real life, you know...

[@WilliamC.2]

No disrespect to the wrestler but why you acting like a Connecticut 1 time state champ could be a d2 wrestler let alone D1! I know it took a tone of work for this guy to get to this level and he’s very good but I think that’s a bad take

[@Arthur-nr5ci]

@WilliamC.2 How do you know he isn't? And how would I know he's a one time state champ from Connecticut? The crux of the premise is how seasoned wrestlers do in jiu jitsu and how the jiujitsu learning curve is affected by their spirt. Seems you're being kind of needlessly pedantic.

[@AndreBland]

Depends on the wrestler though and how competitive the state they wrestled in. For example, I went to a few Jui jitsu gyms and was hanging with the brown belts easily. Struggled with the black belts. But blue belts and half the purples were not that tough, at least for me.

[@artemievandamme6738]

Bro, where did you find the footage on 00:28, it’s actually me with blue belt standing behind, this video was taken probably 8 years ago and I’ve never seen this footage before, do I live in the matrix💀💀💀

[@Apollooooooooooo]

No way. I have always wanted to see a moment like this. If this is real then WOW

[@DemCorpDrones]

So what are you now 20 years old?

[@artemievandamme6738]

@@DemCorpDrones yes

[@DemCorpDrones]

@@artemievandamme6738 lol

[@TheChadavis33]

Fantastic video. Love these “what happens when” scenarios with different styles of grappling. Well done

[@BorisPohulek]

Man, what a great job with the video! Instant subscribe. I am new here, but a huge MMA geek, follow all the big channels and I don't think I've ever seen a better made video on this wrestler vs bjj topic, thank you. 👊

[@RyanJuliano]

thank you! means a lot

[@Terrence-sv8jo]

Top moments for me. The saddle sweep into heel hook and the high croch takedown were beautiful

[@bareknuckleteam]

Wrestlers train to pass and stand, BJJ train to pass and get position. You can see it really well in this video. Great one!

[@ron-kf8sf]

No Wrestling = pin BJJ = submission

[@erupter76500]

Wrestlers train for control so they can pin both shoulder blades on the mat. What makes wrestling so great when they transition to mma is that aspect of control. When you add punching and elbows to the mix and the fact that a wrestler will have better control over their opponent 9 times out of 10 it turns into a lethal combo.

[@hairpuppet]

State champ wrestler myself. I allreciate you taking the time to line up a crew to beat up Josh and show the advantages of BJJ.

[@duss9728]

Basically a 4-5 year wrestler beats a 2 year bjj blue belt but loses to a 4-5 year bjj blue/purple. Makes sense

[@Loquacious_Jackson]

good job buddy! you really cracked the code on that one!

[@JM.MEL_]

@@Loquacious_Jackson not everyone knows how long it takes to get to certain belts nimrod.

[@thewintersoldier383]

Especially in the same day.

[@flavioferrara1101]

Basically he accepted to play their game. Otherwise he would have kept his distance and go for a bodyslam knockout

[@thewintersoldier383]

@@flavioferrara1101 he also did this one day while they were all fresh. 😂

[@miguelortega3702]

This is one of the best tutorial comparisons I've seen. Congratulations muh man. Well done.

[@patricknez7258]

This was cool i liked it. I appreciate the maturity and humility too of the higher level guys playing the game and being nice. Great stuff!

[@foxrowdeers8743]

Awesome and entertaining video! Thanks for posting it.

[@eNnI088]

Cool video Ryan, youre one of my favourite bjj channels out there. Cant wait to see yours as Josh's journey in becoming a black belt 😛

[@RyanJuliano]

Thanks man!

[@romankartsev220]

You guys are beasts!!! Great video!!

[@timdavis6088]

I was a wrestler in Jr High and High school and think the creator did a great job of explaining the nuances of wrestling and the contrasts between BJJ. I think if everyone spent at least 30 seconds on the mat the world would be a much humbler place.

[@MatthewMessmer-me5ji]

Josh is a savage. Also, great video. Loved the commentary

[@Mulligatawney]

This is about what I'd expect; brown+ is gonna have his number (until he learns jits), whites and blues can't keep up with his pressure, technique and athleticism.

[@davefouquette4192]

Wow, Josh did better than I thought he would and I actually started pulling for him. Great job against a high level BJJ black belt. Respect.

[@chrispacheco3890]

Dude as someone with noob grappling experience but an admiration for the art and physicality of it I loved this video. Great commentary explaining the above, keep em coming!

[@mdavissq3d]

I've been training in BJJ for 13 years and i have a great respect for wrestlers. If they pick up BJJ, as soon as the wrestler get their blue belts, they become monsters of the mat. Awesome video.

[@bulldogneon]

First video of yours that I’ve seen, excellent stuff, and u look great, congrats and lots of future success, kick ass brother!

[@tarawhite7449]

Second half of the video is elite. Getting a taste of his own medicine 😤

[@herbertrealtor]

Josh is naturally gifted, once he becomes a blue belt, he will dominate a lot of tournaments.

[@dznArro]

agree. very impressive

[@CaPnBaLlBaG]

That man is gonna be a monster once he develops a guard game. He won't even have to worry about leg locks beyond a straight ankle until purple belt at most comps.

[@jordan0806]

Great video. I hope Josh does more jiu-jitsu..he could end up a being a beast

[@Tsusajop94]

Lovely video Ryan, keep it up brother. Subscribed.

[@dustedNdisgusted]

Nice work Josh! and great video!

[@darienbrewer8317]

This was really good and show how important it is to have skills like these. You both won't ever have any problems defending yourself if necessary.

[@scottydees2748]

One of the few English terms my coach was able to yell at us was, where the head goes, the body will follow. I trained a long long time in both, and a wrestler from the catch, or judo Jean school are monsters. Had a coach from the states that broke my nose twice and snapped a tooth, just rasslin. Very underrated. Good job mate.

[@elliottwallace]

Josh is going 100% and is taking advantage of the fact that his training partners don't want to hurt him. There were multiple instances where the upper belts could have taken limbs home with them and chose not to. If Josh keeps training like that, he is going to get seriously injured when he tries to explode out of a bad position and his partner doesn't let him slip. I don't say this as a way of passing judgment - I was the same way when I first started BJJ. I was a state finalist wrestler and am now a BJJ black belt, but I definitely caught a few unnecessary injuries as a white and blue belt due to going too hard in practice.

[@thereviewartistrrp5493]

Josh was holding back, too. Why would you think that? He is wrestling, but that doesn't mean. he doesn't have lethal knowledge. Their sparring. True sparring means it's for growth, not to destroy your training partner.

[@imairwrecked3599]

I wrestled in college and was able to keep up with the brown belts at my school when I finally started. Granted I was no where near as knowledgeable as them as far as attacks like chokes or locks but they usually couldn’t tap me either, I always took that as a win.

[@jollyrogerexperience]

Great video! When I started my coach teamed me up with a 'Josh' who was training Judo for two years already. I was totally green to all combat sports. His signature move was the 'case'a'salami' or kesa-gatame.

[@marcsee4072]

Fantastic video, fantastic performance from all of you guys. Loved it

[@yuen4817]

Camera work was solid. Great work!

[@jakeelder4695]

Cool video. As a large blue belt I have done well with wrestlers. The butterfly sweep and the guillotine being the main techniques. They learn super fast though and are never an easy roll.

[@tusccountyjiujitsu]

After 28 years of BJJ I have learned it is better to be patient with Wrestlers. They explode a lot and if you are busy moving while they do that you lose position. The goal is to be super patient, more patient than time constraints sometimes allows for. I am 47 years old and it may take me longer than 5 or 10 minutes to catch them but I can go as long as I need because I don't try to match aggression with more aggression.

[@mordeth999]

Great video and commentary! Really appreciate your attitude to training and cooperation in the gym:)

[@michaelfarrow5817]

I miss jiu-jitsu so so much. If I could have a plan to actually fix my back, I'd go back the day after.

[@ismlamaroof6438]

I wrestled a lot and have done some submission grappling. There are "bad" habits that are tough for us to deprogram from (the quotes are because they are only bad in BJJ). We have to unlearn leaving our head hang out there, which is seen how he gets caught in a front guillotine (mostly a rookie loss). We are uncomfortable on our backs and have to unlearn giving up our backs. After that, we just don't know how to get a submission very well, because they are all moves that are illegal and considered dangerous in wrestling. If you're a smart wrestler, though, you can adapt pretty quick and be VERY tough to beat.

[@tededo]

There are not a whole lot of videos if decent wrestlers vs decent BJJers. I love how you use your belt metric, its even better than the Boyd belt band Rener Gracie spoke about. For that guy to be consider a blue/purple like me, he'll have to technically submit purple belts on rare occasion, or else, as you say, he's a high level blue. Please get more of these footages for us. I am 51, grizzled and seasoned looooooong time blue, and my wrestling is actually re-surfacing cause more and more high level blue and decent purples are challenging my game. Wrestling is what I use at times to get that edge I need and equalize my grappling game.

[@nzdefrag]

What is the wrestling metric? as opposed to a belt system. How many watermelons you can crush in a headlock? Joking, but genuinely interested.

[@_Tao__]

Did you just call a state champ "decent"?

[@tededo]

@@_Tao__ Hold on a second here. Wait a moment right now. Let me stop you right here. Lets halt this one right away. Decent wrestlers vs bjjers, lets say a bit worst than a D3. Thats usually what we're faced over here.

[@Billygrundmeyer]

Gordon Ryan took on Bo Nickal in a modified rules submission match. Interesting video. Did not end well for the wrestler. Would have been worse if leg locks had been allowed.

[@TuxedoTalk]

Let them throw punches and watch the wrestler dominate. Pain is their fuel.

[@Arcadianx98]

You have to find a state CHAMPION wrestler to get these results against an average BJJ person at a gym. It’s a theme I notice in most KZbin videos with wrestlers against BJJ, it’s always one of the best wrestlers against an average BJJ dude.

[@emperorjimmu9941]

Because the average bjj practitioner is a brown belt? You know something else I've noticed? To produce these results you need a high level jiu jitsu practitioner working under jiu jitsu rules, on soft mats We are all kings of our own kingdom. Don't assume that the jiu jitsu rule set and jiu jitsu training environment is the definitive referee on what constitutes an apt combative comparison, it is one system of many and has its benefits as well as its criticisms

[@Arcadianx98]

@@emperorjimmu9941 yes, actually. Would you rather see the results of a brown belt champion against a wrestler state wrestler champion? It would be even more one sided. Average BJJ guys are not competitors, that’s my whole point. Yet they can still compete and submit wrestler champions. How about you take the average wrestler against an average BJJ blue belt. BJJ wins 9/10 times and there is no “BJJ” rule set. Everything that’s allowed in wrestling is allowed in BJJ. However it doesn’t flow the other way, that’s because wrestling had a lot of short comings

[@emperorjimmu9941]

@@Arcadianx98 there is a bjj rule set, because certain things are rewarded in bjj which aren't in wrestling and vice versa But there's this idea many bjj practitioners seem to have which is that bjj is the default, the ultimate. If a bjj practitioner loses in wrestling or smth it doesn't matter because they're just silly game sports, but when somebody who doesn't do jiu jitsu competes in the jiu jitsu rule set and loses, it's proof of bjj's superiority The bjj rules of submission as the only means to achieve victory is merely one perspective of simulating combat. All videos like this prove is that jiu jitsu practitioners are good at winning in jiu jitsu vs people who don't do jiu jitsu. I could equally put a jiu jitsu practitioner in a wrestling or judo or sumo or sambo match and they'd lose. But many would shrug and say "well it doesn't count because only bjj rules are REAL, the others are just for show"

[@rickyjimenez5190]

Should’ve interviewed the black belt. I mean we all saw how good the match was but it’s cool to know what he thought of the wrestler

[@channelsicks]

All these dudes are awesome - hope to see more Josh in the future 👊🏽👊🏽

[@kentheonlywellmaybedontoo9754]

good video, thanks

[@amospizzey1]

Brilliant video , subscribed ⭐️

[@JediNiyte]

Josh is a SUPER good sport! Seems like a great guy to have as a friend.

[@CodenameQuincy]

Props to the wrestler for playing someone else’s game and doing well.

[@rogermanley9017]

Getting out of your comfort zone and playing someone else’s game is not only admirable but smart. You’ll basically be in a league all your own at the end of the day.

[@AdaDenali]

For someone that’s done 20 Jiu Jitsu classes his arm bars are awesome

[@mjw1978]

I’m a black belt BJJ and my son is a HS varsity wrestler and when he and I spar, he is not easy to bring down (JUST take downs and technique and not submission). Wrestlers are indeed a different breed of people.

[@montereynotjapan]

Great vid. Talent from all sides. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that wrestler sparred with increasing belt levels one after another. That’s insane that he wasn’t more gassed and makes this ranking maybe not as accurate. Imagine if he started fresh against each one. Maybe he had a huge amount of time to rest in between? What a beast

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

Josh is a natural grappler. His 20 Jiu Jitsu classes helped him a ton. I had about a year of Jiu Jitsu training with 0 wrestling experience and went against my older brother who made state semifinals and I tapped him in about 30 seconds. But that’s because he had zero idea how to prevent chokeholds and had zero BJJ experience. I think most wrestlers would be similar if they had just their wrestling knowledge and experience vs someone trained in BJJ.

[@vikingoutlaw9]

Enjoyed the match ups. Interesting to watch as a former jr high wrestler

[@deanneuburger3869]

Super presentation of skill levels! Thank you!

[@marc5535]

Well done. Great video and a compelling progression hook to keep us eager to see how a highly skilled wrestler can apply his skills to the Jiu Jitsu context. Really strong colour commentary describing the techniques being employed. Well done, mate!

[@primarisgainssbbg3038]

I think the key for Josh is in 2 points. If he has a good heart and a willingness to learn, he will get far. Good heart helps to not let yourself be lost on the martial arts journey, and a willingness to learn can add more to his repetioire, giving him more tools to add to his toolbox.

[@ColonelBragg]

Him having trouble passing guard gives me flashbacks of my own experiences, That was what always gave me hell early on in training too.

[@omaewamoushindeiru6581]

Great video, wish it was longer.

[@OneRoyalFlush]

Putting a comment to remember come back and watch this move again 5:01

[@michaelbishop9157]

I'd like to see how well the black belt here would do against 6 wrestlers one after the other. I actually preferred the brown belts game against the wrestler which was more fluid and efficient

[@J123Tilley]

Were all these fights on one day, Josh must be knackered.

[@pokemontas8025]

Josh vs Georgio Poullas when?

[@emakeric4683]

that would be sick

[@alotafhindi7485]

Georgio’s on a different level imo.

[@joshuamartinez8049]

@@alotafhindi7485yup georgio is actually an insanely good wrestler

[@jesusiskingofkings4428]

@@joshuamartinez8049josh is an amazing wrestler but credential wise, georgio’s ironman championship is crazy

[@anthonysiu6010]

Georgio would bully him

[@chenanigans6437]

8:50 Man, I was just thinking about this today. My school doesn't really drill, just roll around (bunch of 30-40 year-olds meeting up after work to learn a move or two). One thing that has been a big transition for me has been the culture and pace. I haven't wrestled competitively since I was 20, but the moment I stepped on the mat I was ready to get after it. BUT no one else shared that sentiment haha. Jiu jitsu has been a challenge, but it's a blessing to be on a mat again!

[@rsktransport]

Was this dude doing all this back to back while others dudes fresh? If so then props to that. Thats tough.

[@user-rp5pp8hr6x]

PUT A BLACK BELT VS D-1 WRESTLER I LIKE TO SEE THAT

[@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh]

Carlos Gracie Jiu Jitsu are all about Power and Strong Takedowns, Hélio Gracie are Small and weak and he adapted the style for his body focused more on ground game.

[@thunderkatz4219]

Yeah

[@thunderkatz4219]

He probably doesn’t know martial arts history

[@arturofernandez725]

that's just BJJ lore. All they actually did was rebrand Judo. Basically Just Judo (BJJ).

[@Kettle1]

As a punching bag most my life....this video means so much to study it. Much appreciated.

[@griffinasack7020]

I don’t wrestle or do bjj but this was some of the most entertaining grappling I’ve seen

[@rodrigocrisostomo521]

Great stuff man! Content is awesome!

[@coachbriantrains]

This was a great video. Props to everyone who participated!

[@JasonGeorge-ij3uv]

That was very good of the BJJ brown and black belt to use so much control and not let their ego get involved and just rip a hard submission

[@Taki_Music_TakuyaKimpara]

Thank you for the content everyone wanted to see!

[@thewintersoldier383]

This really just depends on the person. On both sides. I’m sure there’s wrestlers that can muscle and finesse their way to a rear naked choke. And I’m sure there are BJJ guys that can sneak in a heel hook.

[@Como651]

This parallels what I have seen in our jui jitsu school. High level wrestlers can sometimes beat blue belts and rarely get submitted by them but purple is too much for them. They can’t submit a purple but sometimes ride them out for 5 minutes.

[@IamDude2]

“Wrestler uses armbar from JJ to submit”..but then gets submitted twice, by a blue belt!

[@austinboogaert.]

Josh is a beast

[@philCTO]

Exactly what I would expect. Wrestling is a strong base but when you get to the brown and black belt levels there are going to be more tools on the ground that would win it.

[@nealorr5086]

What I learned from this video: In 1 month, Josh would *own* this dojo.

[@ronchew391]

That was good. I always kind of wondered how that would go. 👏🏻

[@thebagnechannel3183]

Great video! This was a good idea.

[@lindaknox6635]

Exceptional video! Wow.

[@Unibot47]

Damn the round with you and josh, your movement was smooth af

[@dannydswift]

Awesome video!

[@stuartclubb4302]

The most important thing this shows is how at pretty much every level of grappling, strength and athleticism determine much of the outcome. I'd honestly be more interested in a direct comparison of each individuals deadlift, bench, and squat.

[@Paul-fw5jp]

Josh is well rounded, now we need to add striking. He did not fight high level judokas who practice free style combat Judo with striking. Great conditioning for Josh!

[@kallepikku4991]

How come we only see folkstyle wrestlers competing under jiu-jitsu rules, but we never see jiu-jitsu wrestlers compete under folkstyle rules? It would be interesting to see this grown black belt compete in high school / state / collage / national / international Folkstyle or Freestyle wrestling tournament. Genuinely curious to see the results.

[@russellzauner]

as a wrestler I hated being in like a bar or something and heading for the takedown forgetting that there are no rules and run straight into a guillotine - my muscle memory is what defeated me. thanks algorithm for a 2 week old video but hey im here now

[@Imafairygaming]

Josh should partecipate in contest this man built different

[@mattmeservey1774]

wrestler did AWESOME to handle all of those guys same session. He's in great shape. Having wrestled to 2nd in state, and also taking BJJ, it's REALLY difficult to be OK being on your back for a wrestler. I still have problems with it. I am deeply uncomfortable on my back, even though it's very safe in BJJ

[@mtmatt8958]

Damn good videos.....earned you guys another subscriber

[@JackWongbagus]

thanks Ryan, Good job here

[@arturofernandez725]

Josh did all that gauntlet style! I'd be interested to see if anything changes when Josh is as fresh as his opponents. Great job Josh!

[@vikingbjj7]

Olympic gold medal winner kevin jackson vs frank shamrock is a good one to watch. It shows how wrestlers get submitted when they dont have bjj experience. Once they start doing bjj their learning curve is definitely shorter, and they get good quick if they learn to slow down a little. BUT, now they're doing jiu jitsu not just wrestling. At that point its the person, not style vs style.

[@droliver]

Frank Shamrock wasn’t really a BJJ guy. He was a lifelong wrestler that had learned submission catch wrestling in Japan.

[@vikingbjj7]

@droliver no he wasn't lol. He learned submissions from Ken at first. But, That armbar from guard he hit was pure jiu jitsu.

[@droliver]

@@vikingbjj7 both the Shamrocks were wrestlers that learned submission grappling in Japan in the pro wrestling circuit there. This is pretty well known fact in their bios. Arm bars are not necessarily jiujitsu, it's common across multiple trad grappling disciplines

[@vikingbjj7]

@droliver if you were training back then you'd know. Ken was ahead of Frank, and yes they def learned a lot in Japan. And that armbar from guard is pure jiu jitsu. A armbar from guard is not wrestling lol

[@droliver]

@@vikingbjj7 go watch old videos from 90’s Japan. Kimura, arm/knee bar, leg locks were all common in those shoot fighting matches. That’s where the Shamrocks learned their trade before MMA as we know it was even a thing. I think we would agree a guy like Frank was there when these ground fighting techniques were merging between disciplines, I’m just pointing out that he wasn’t a BJJ trained guy as much as a catch/submission wrestler