Get Out and BUY THESE CHEAP MUSCLE CARS! 5 Best Buys, PART 2!!!! (NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE)

[@UncleTonysGarage]

Good video, good choices...and some trivia! That's me doing the burnout in the red C4. That was from a 1986 Drag Test I did on that car for Cars Illustrated magazine. Pretty sure it ran in Vette mag. as well. Had it for a week. Owned Fountain Ave and did OK on South Ave with it, and recorded the first ever 13 second TPI pass at E-Town. Returned to the Chevy press pool in Manhattan on a rollback...as usual.

[@StayTunedTA]

No way, that's super cool! I was in grade school at that point.

[@chrisgreenaway6696]

@@stevesls6 all hail the hotrod guru

[@07jimmyd]

Tony, as a c4 owner, I feel I need to defend her honor a bit here. Not live axle, it has a D36 or D44 IRS. Also, the manuals are not a T56. 84-88 was a 4 speed with a 2 speed overdrive, 89-96 was a German ZF6-6 speed. Front suspension is long arm short arm, albeit the whole car has transverse leaf springs. Sorry for the nerd corrections G! They’re still an amazing value, and a great track car and auto x monster. Check out the SCCA challenge car C4s!

[@christopherbain5935]

I bought a "73 Chevy Chevelle Laguna, with a 454 backed by a th400, a few years ago because my daughter fell in love with it. I payed $5k and have never regretted it.

[@christopherpentland5375]

Honorable mentioned should be the 89-97 thunderbird. Alot of them came with v8 power but I like the supercoupes of 89-95 with a 5 speed and supercharged.

[@philthyco1]

I think it was on his previous list no?

[@hendo337]

MN12s are a good value, V8 cars are available for $2-3k all day long.

[@philthyco1]

@@hendo337 Not in cali anymore.. Unless it's all beat up

[@I_like_turtles_67]

Also very comfortable to ride in. My aunt had one with a 5.0 My cousin bought one out of HS. But he got a v6 one. Buy he also owned a 70 cougar. So you can't give him too much shit. I've seen turbo coupe versions. With v8 swaps. Definitely a great car.

[@theraggededge6652]

Some of the XR7 cougars had independent rear suspension too. I had one. I believe it was an 89. It was a V6 car too. Wierd stuff Ford did. These cars were in the Fox body Chassis family. That Chassis made the 1st list. Great suggestion though

[@tailsfromthejunkyard1023]

Tony Angelo!! Car Guy by day!, Financial Guru and extraordinaire by night!!! 🤣🤣… awesome suggestion here, great video man!

[@chrisgreenaway6696]

A genius would do what I did 75-81 firebirds / formulas. And Camaros of that era cheap working man restoration or hotrod

[@grand73am]

I'm not sure, but he might have had them listed in his first list of budget muscle car buys in another video.

[@CrankshaftTX]

The Mello Yello car in Days of Thunder is a FWD platform W body.

[@MrPooponastickable]

Came here to say that. Says Lumina right on the front of it🤣

[@jared5021]

Still surprised you didn't include the SN95 Mustang. The earlier years seem to sell really cheap. I just picked one up with the 5.0 and a 5 speed for $5K. Needed a clutch, a drive shaft, and paint.

[@hendo337]

If the budget allows $5000-$10000 a rebadged Holden Monaro/Commodore/Caprice as a Pontiac GTO/G8 GT or Chevrolet Caprice PPV is a great car to buy. They're LS powered, 6 speed transmissions, IRS, roomy, often they can be overlooked as hooligan cars in the right colors/wheels/exhausts, not so old that you have to restore or start with a shell, great brakes, ride/handling is excellent, very usable as a daily. Many 5th Gen Cámaro and CTS-V parts are in interchangeable.

[@Golds_442]

I bought a 1973 Olds 442 as my first car in high school and have kept it ever since. People always approach me and tell me how long it’s been since they’ve seen any 73-77 cars. Lots of looks and lots of fun once you build up the old smogged out motors. Hard to find parts for sure but nonetheless

[@lewhanna6112]

I had a 73 Supreme, loved the car. It just rusted away here in southeast Texas.

[@Golds_442]

Lew Hanna I want to think most of the colonnade cars rotted away. You really just don’t see them driving around anymore

[@grand73am]

@@Golds_442 I have 4 colonnades, 2 of which I drive regularly. So, they're not all rotted away :-) . But it's true I never see others on the road besides mine. But with the internet, I believe it wouldn't be hard for somebody to find the particular year and model of A-body that they like for a reasonable price.

[@streetratgarage]

If you look long and hard you can find a few A body’s for a good price. I think all the G body’s Tony listed where 73-77 A body cars. I have a 77 Monte Carlo and it’s a great riding car. I’m doing an Ls swap on my channel with it. There is so much room under the hood of an A body to put anything you like!!

[@seanfattireguythomas2994]

I just picked up a 1972 Chrysler New Yorker for a grand this thing is awesome factory 440 it’s black nothing better to make a mobster style ride that rips

[@RexKarrs]

I call shenanigans. I had one of those '76 Volares from new, and it started rusting the moment I drove it off the lot. Had a no-po 318 and a half-vinyl roof. I don't think you'll find one today north of the Mason-Dixon line, and not many south of it, that aren't rusted up to the door handles. If you leave it in your driveway for the afternoon and it suddenly starts to rain, it'll rust. Not worth your time and effort.

[@quadsquadracingable]

I've been a chevy guy all my life! C10, chevelle, Corvette, tahoe and suburban have all been in my line up but a friend came to me saying he had been storing a dakota in his airplane hanger for like 8 or 9 years. I go look at it and it's a 98 Dakota R/T club cab. Low miles, super in tact but dirty from sitting and needed a lot of work to get it road worthy. I picked it up and got it dialed in and absolutely love it! Bought it for $4000 and put a few grand in new brakes, suspension, steering components, wheels, lights and full body fluid flush. Everyday I get compliments on it and between my c10 and the Dakota I'm all smiles!!

[@tylerharris1085]

maybe I'm a weirdo but 4th gen 4 door nova's are awesome. I'm in love with them and they are easy to find in immaculate shape

[@kevinfox500]

Tony. Chrysler M.body. think 80s Fury and Gran Fury. Make a.great.sleeper, and yes, big block or modern Hemi is a doable swap. Wife drives one with a hopped up small block that started as a 360, and is now a stroker 400, backed with a built 5 speed.

[@sidefx996]

Love these videos Tony and always believed a 4th gen Corvette is the best performance value on the planet as a starting point for a project. A couple points, Corvettes haven't had a "live axle" since 1962. And they were ZF 6 speeds starting in '89 and running through '96, not T-56s. And they are absolutely "real sports cars." They were undefeated for 3 years in SCCA Showroom Stock from '85-'87. Porsche and Lotus and everyone got so butthurt in fact that they had Corvettes banned from competition and they were forced to race against themselves in '88 and '89 in Corvette Challenge. And in 1990 Morrison Motorsports set multiple FIA World Land Speed Records that I believe still stand TO THIS DAY for production cars.

[@frosticuar]

A body colonnade! 👌

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

Yes! Corvette c4 was my suggestion. Tons of fun for the cash.

[@rockin86ranger]

I’ve really wondered why there are not more 5.3 swapped c4 corvettes. You can buy a non running c4 for peanuts and slap a junkyard 5.3 in it with a cam and intake and have a blast for cheap. I’ve seen a couple of them done but I figured they would be everywhere by now.

[@whelk]

From the vids I've watched it seems an LS swap into a C4 isn't as straight forward as one might hope.

[@martyhandley4456]

I been toting an 1980 Elky around for the last 17 years.....just started getting it ready to try to start it for the first time in all those years.......can’t wait. Gonna restore and give it to my daughter....she’s two now

[@gr8fulpn]

Good call on the Gbodies Tony, I’ve had/have 5 myself and these cars are only going up in price. All full frame, rear wheel drive and available with V8 (under) power but plenty of room for more power. Right now I have two ‘79 Cutlasses one was a daily; Olds 350 th350 and the other is a factory 4spd, 305, limited slip 3.08. Love ‘em

[@epiccowboymemes2042]

If I'm not mistaken, G-bodies have engine bays large enough for Big Block 572s.

[@jdgreen214]

I have a grandnational the king of the gbody. I paid 24k in 2019 can't find it for less than 30k and about 50 to 60 in the fully restored state like mine.

[@benbrown2119]

Excellent episode! I built a big block Volaré wagon about 18 years ago. Ran low 13s in the Quarter mile. Long Hauled Power Tour 2006 with it. Pro tip: a 68 B-body 8¾ rear was a bolt-in, as was the 727 transmission. Regrettably, I had to sell it in 2007. However, my current wagon is an 81 Pontiac A/G body with a 455 Olds in it. Power Tour Long Hauler and Drag Week survivor, it runs mid 12s. Another pro tip: the G-body platform came with almost every GM engine family, and there are (or were) swap kits for the rest of them, even Cadillac 500 V8s. Get 'em while you can!

[@mubashircheentavida]

Missed the GM B-Body, 91-96 platform. Caprices, Impala's, Buick Roadmasters, Wagons, Sedans, all the goodness.

[@StayTunedTA]

They are also great buys. Let's keep something for Ep 3!

[@gearhead1234]

Don’t forget 77-90 caprices.. RWD, And more. I have an 84 2 door landau, added a 454 and I also converted to a mechanical linkage clutch with a 4 speed.. tony, if you want to build one, I’ll hook you up! I don’t live too far south of you.

[@johnnycashh7148]

First car...81 Malibu Classic...dual exhaust, Gamblers, running air shock rake...blasting Metallica!! Those were the days!! Butte, MT Class of 89.

[@daleyarborough]

The G-Body is HIGH AF too!! You named four of my little secrets; particularly the C4. Having said that, CUT THIS SHIT OUT MAN!

[@the_truck_farmer]

Lol

[@jeffjacobsen7106]

Tony, Great list bud! I got all the way to the end and stood up and cheered when you said 73-77 A body then cried when you took it back ( only because I have one I’m currently restoring and rodding out) but the g-body’s are also a solid choice. Cheers man!

[@grand73am]

I have several 73-77 a-bodies myself and think they're the best. Fortunately I bought them years ago when still cheap. I guess he's saying he wasn't able to find a good one for a reasonable price, so it didn't fit his criteria. But I still think they can be found in decent condition for a reasonable price, or a project for cheap. I think he didn't look hard enough. The G-body is not a bad choice, but not as good as the A-body. I'd put the G's in 2nd place, put the A-body in 1st, and kick out the pickup truck or the Volare :-) . I don't think a G-body Aerocoupe would be easy to find or could be bought cheaply if you did.

[@jeffjacobsen7106]

@@grand73am yeah , i get it. they have definitely started to come into their own and the market is growing for them finally.. I bought mine about 4 years ago for $800.

[@jholthenrichs]

Tony, Don't forget about the 66-70 Buick Rivieras. The 63-65 are priced out. There are still some 71-73 boattails available for a good price. The 66 has a nailhead, but the 67-70 have the 430/455. And nearly all of them came with AC and power windows/seats. The Eldo/Toronado are FWD, so I'd pass on those. There isn't a lot of aftermarket support, but there are now some floor pans available. And the club support for them helps finding parts much easier than you'd think.

[@elsydeon666]

My dad had a black and gold 79 Hurst/Olds, but, unlike the one you shown, it did not have t-tops. His 84 did have t-tops. The 83 and 84 H/O had the Lightning Rods, whilst the other H/Os had the Dual Gate shifter.

[@thenomad01]

Just had the exact convo after your first list: A bodies all taken, and G bodies a great 80s throwback. Learned on an 84 Regal... yesss

[@troyjohnson6023]

2 years ago I bought a Pontiac aerocoupe for 1000 bucks cause pervious owner didn’t know what he had.. I love it cause very few know what it realy is… I’ve since ls swapped and manual swapped it. Fun car. And very unique.

[@fbodyx2gbodyx151]

Great list of cars. I'm glad my two gen 2 fbody's and my 86 442 made your list. I'm really enjoying your channel. Can't wait for the firebird update.

[@theystretchformiles]

love my dakota! has a plastic gas tank so no worries about that rusting out.

[@MrGreyZ]

Thought the C4 had the inverse leaf spring IRS

[@heytonycraig]

Tony, it's Tony. Gbody #1. Agreed. Gots me an 87 cutlass. T tops V8. Can't get any better for the 80's cars. Stylin profilan woooooo

[@cpariaug]

Tony you guys are incredible…keep up the old school vibe

[@05gtdriver]

Funny, one of my employees has been trying to sell his 1968 Mercury Montego coupe for a while now. 302W, C-4, X-pipe dual exhaust, very straight, superficial rust(if any), original lime metallic paint, front disc brake conversion. He's asking less than $7K.

[@RadNitro]

Yes, finally got to the G-Body. I had a 84 Monte Carlo I traded for a 79 Corvette years ago. Really miss that MC. Like a lot.

[@belfastbuilt]

A body for the win. My dads got an all original ‘73 GTO. Thing is glorious.

[@russellbrown4798]

Tony, I have an 84 Hurst with the lighting rod shifter. My father got it for me in 1988 for graduation. I had 2 big speeding tickets in 2 months and he took it away. My mother drove it until 97, and it has been sitting ever since.

[@rickknabel2625]

I’ve always liked the 73/77 GM A body. The problem with those they where orphan cars for so long that most rotted away and there’s not a lot of aftermarket support for sheet metal and interior. Think of how many where scraped in the late 80’s and 90’s when the “real” muscle cars started to make a comeback. One of my top 5 dream cars is a 73 chevelle or laguna. Also as far as cheap g’s go buy them NOW! and if you’re young and or on a budget don’t pass on a 4 door. Great video

[@waltermerrill6152]

This is why I watch Nolan at wild Rose garage, he does the same thing with the GM G-Body, that Uncle Tony does with the Mopar stuff. I actually would like to see a showdown between, bottle rocket and the junkyard bulldog. Anyways great list as always.

[@84hurstoldsdude77]

I stood when recognized.. nice to see the Hurst/Olds get some props

[@HighGearAutomotive]

Totally agree with the list. I can't personally get into the crown vic but the quality of the chassis & driveline package is tough to deny.

[@BobDole00]

Yes!!! Gbody should be the king of this list. Bought many a gbody for 2 to 3 grand dont care what people think they made litteraly millions lf them theyre not worth alot. The low production stuff is worth more but grandmas everywhere still hidding them gbodys.

[@wilhelmnapier378]

G bodies are crazy expensive right now. They are jumping in popularity fast!!

[@mb2stroke816]

Glad you included the Dakota! I swapped a 360 into one and it's a super fun daily driver.

[@hangfire6368]

I was looking for an C10 for my son for his first vehicle a couple years ago. The market was so hot we switched to looking for a manual C4 because they are so cheap. The manuals have the Dana 44 rear which is desirable. Found a 6 speed 89 with 60k that was garaged and maintained for $7500. We resealed the engine, wheels from a C5 18x9 all around, dewitt radiator, TPIS throttle body, 23 injectors with a chip tune, and a decent sound system. It is a great reliable ride that still draws attention. To get a C10 to that level it would have cost 2x more due to the initial purchase price. We have a daily 99 Grand Marquis. Parts are so cheap you can keep them running forever. Picked up another for $1000 that is in great shape. It will be another daily driver soon. Great cars.

[@the_langss]

Thanks for the Video.....HaHaHaHaHa....Just did a quick search for C4 Corvettes out here in L.A. ...Well you can revise that list some....Nothing worth buying for under $10k and what is under $10k is going to cost you close to that to get in any shape to drive reliably....Oh they look good in the pictures for $5+..but you can bet there is at least another $5 getting them to pass smog and fix all the worn out suspension parts...But Great Idea none the less...

[@SereneSpeed]

Truth be toldeth! Pre-pandemic, sure, but not now. In December of ‘19 I got a clean Polo-green over tan ‘96 LT4 6-speed with 30k miles for $11.5k. I’m in L.A. (Altadena). Just had to drive up to Paso Robles to get it. Deals to be had out of town at that time.

[@jacobnordskog2420]

Just picked up a Monte SS the other day from a buddies estate, can’t wait to get it ripping again

[@16rebels94]

I give the exact same not financial advice, but around these parts the G body costs like an F body due to them being used up at short tracks all through the southeast.

[@paulmac9634]

Tony, absolutely right about G bodies, but for me I just can't get into them. For me best cheap muscle cars would be 2nd-3rd gen Camaro, and C3, C4 and early C5 corvettes. C3s are cheaper than same year Camaros these days. But if you are a HS kid, 2nd gen Camaro would be the car to look for. Fix it with your dad and buddies and then go cruisin'.

[@rustysausage69]

I'm with ya, too much plastic. Nothin beats the chrome bumpers of 73-earlier GM cars. Superb aftermarket support on the 2nd gens, theyre decently light and they handle EXTREMELY well, autocross being my motorsport of choice

[@fossilfuelenthusiast]

Love this series. Cheap hot rods is where Hot rodding began!

[@Tomekkplk]

Please buy a Plymouth GranFury/Dodge Diplomat and cram a 5.7 hemi in it

[@jmark7390]

Funny you mention Volare. I was just checking into them. When I was young kid I went to a Dodge dealer with my new Z28 and they had a yellow Volare with white vinyl top. But if I remember right it had a 360 4 speed in it. They were really trying to unload it, I forget how much off but it was a lot. The car had white seats with black carpet in the front and brown in the back!!!!

[@MustangCrazyMan72]

Love my 2004 Marauder! 4v and 300 hp and very reliable! Great highway cruiser!

[@1DEADBEEF1]

Correcting errors in this video 1. Crown vics were available with 5.6 liter engine to fleet market only (my old dept had several) 2. Corvette IS NOT A LIFE AXLE CAR- it has independed rear suspension and 4 pot disc brakes in the rear since the 60s 3. Do not rip the Doug Nash overdrive trans out - its worth more with it and its just flat out cool.how many guys have a doug nash trans? 4. If you want something that feels more vintage than a c4 get a C3 (75-82) - you can still find running examples for under 5k Edelbrock sells a preformance package for 3 grand that yealds 410hp

[@B_Skeen]

78-88 A/G bodies are badass but the prices for clean ones are getting up there. 1st Gen S-10 Blazers and 88-98 GMT400/OBS trucks are nice too.

[@buddythecat4675]

In your first installment, I was thinking C4 Corvette, and it is nice to see that you included it, Tony! I also thought of G body GM's, as they're the last gasp of RWD carb'd engines that, although they didn't make lots of power, are a great entry level muscle car that is affordable. By '88, that platform and technology was so archaic, but I liked the old school (though undoubtedly a GM cost cutting thing) thing that they had going. I owned an '84 Cutlass as my first car in 1998 and the 305 is truly gutless, but sounds incredible with a dual exhaust. Another suggestion that I have is the 1989 to 1995 Thunderbird Super Coupes, which still seem to go way below the radar, for some reason. Supercharged V6, but with a ridiculous amount of low end torque, and it is a simple supercharger pulley swap and with a tune and gears, is a fast and fun car, and you get the 8.8 Trak-Lok rear end, factory, too.

[@sammondaw]

Excellent video once again! I like 1 and 2 especially. Mom had a 77 Volare back in the late 70s, early 80s, and I've long thought they had potential. G bodies have absolutely grown on me the last several years. For years , I've only had interest in 60s, early 70s ElCaminos, now...I'll take any model year and make it work,.

[@StrokerAspen]

Wooooooo! We made the list with the dodge aspen!!! Hahaha. My first car was a dodge Aspen when I was 15. I still have it today. The car has had a few small blocks over the years, (340, 434, last one was a 468 w2 R3 block deal) Currently I am building a 370ci modern hemi in it, billet 88mm turbo, th400 all run by a Holley EFI Dominator system. It’s been a learning curve for sure!

[@Storyracing387]

Those 80s Aero coupes are awesome! I remember watching them fly around Daytona as a kid!! I really want to make a 1/10 scale rc car of these!!!

[@paulveenstra6305]

Love my G bodies. Too bad you can't find any of them in my area for a descent price anymore. Living in Iowa most of them have been turned into dirt track cars. I should know cause I myself have converted three of them. I have seen thousands of them since early 90's end up on tracks and destroyed. But still admit my 85 Cutlass is one of my favorite cars out of my of legally driving. My other two favorites were my 1970 olds 442 1st car. Then 85 Dodge Conquest fun car. Then the 85 Cutlass.

[@the_truck_farmer]

Same here in WI. Saw more G body Race cars growing up than just about any other car at the track

[@frankfeine9129]

Yes, good choices! And i have a 1985 Olds 442....;) but first: not for sale and second: stays in Germany....greetings, love your channel

[@wfochris]

videos like yours are why I'm cancelling cable. thanks for the content!

[@tonypozzini4724]

Speaking of Aspens Tony,do you remember the version called the Super Coupe? It had body side stripes,flared fenders and I believe a 360 V8 .

[@401cam8]

I got lucky over the past few years. Theres deals out there but search everyday and don't be afraid to drive a while to get them.

[@JakeDevGames]

Big fan of these lists

[@HeavyPedalGarage]

Dude! You’re cracking me up! Thanks for the smiles! Great list and we all know these are most likely to only go up in value!

[@simeonorive145]

Love the channel miss seeing you and Lucky Costa. Hope you get a couple of mill subscribes you will kill with your fine taste.

[@AjarZzzz]

Working on getting an 81 el camino with a 350sb/2004r combo from a good friend. He wants 1000 for the car. It also comes with 4 eye malibu front clip power doors,and,dash column/harness. Plus for 600, vortec heads, aluminum intake, lunati cam, rad, distributor, stamp steel roller tips, and headers. You can say it's a good deal. If you can find one for a good deal, get it!

[@TinManKustoms]

Nice list There's also the Chrysler 5th Ave and the Ford Ltd cars plus the Chevy Caprice

[@thomasrounds3337]

In FL right now there are 2 A body Pontiacs on Craigslist for a good price. Especially a 75 Lemans someone has already started. Don't remember exact numbers but low enough that I saved them for future reference if they don't sell

[@garysutherland1149]

I don’t know about philly area but in N. Central Ohio you can’t touch a “G body” that isn’t rusted out for under 8-10k !

[@hendo337]

So you read my comment 6 days ago about the Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, Marauders, Town Cars. Awesome 😊

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

My mom had a Dodge Aspen when I was like 12. It was baby blue with white vinyl interior, t-tops, and either a 318 or 360 automatic on the floor. I've wanted to find another one since I was old enough to drive. I've only seen one Aspen in area in years and it was like $8,000. My friend in high school had a Volare with a slant 6. It was cool too. I would love to have it now with gas prices

[@cletuschrist]

I bought a 77 Cutlass for $1k in 2017 that is now powered by a 490hp LS3. So glad I pulled the trigger then instead of waiting. (Installed Kilduff lightning rods, as well)

[@whelk]

I had a 77 Cutlass S with a Rocket 350. 160 HP from the factory.

[@jasonbirch1182]

Hate to nit pic but the dale car pictured and the Mello Yello are both lumina's. Days of thunder was 90's and actual stock cars built from production car body parts were over.

[@jordanwiley4582]

If you live anywhere where there is rust, STAY AWAY FROM THE T TOP CARS. They all rot out, and they all leak. Unless youre prepared to literally replace the entire roof a section at a time, go for a hard top. Also, only the 83/84 hurst olds cutlass' had the lightning rods. 84 could get the 200r4 so it'd have an extra rod i think. 85-88 were 442s, not hursts so they got the normal shifters. The 78 and 79 w30 hurst/olds had the hurst dual gate shifter and the only g body (technically still called an A body by gm until 1981, and g bodies went to metric fasteners in 1983ish) that came factory with a gasoline 350 engine, the 2nd to last year for the oldsmobile 350. Also in 1980/1981 you could get a monte with the carbed 175/150hp four/two barrel turbo buick v6.

[@instantninja1]

65-68 ford and mercury full size cars are cheap, a lot of them had 390's, but 410 and 428 displacement cars are out there. 3 link rear suspension and room for the whole neighborhood.

[@rjs2005]

Another solid list- like Tony said, better jump on that Panther before Cleetus buys 'em all- those Florida boys are going through them like CBS did with 68-70 Chargers on Dukes of Hazzard!

[@ttops83]

C4 has independent rear suspension

[@jeepfan971]

Good call on the F body mopar

[@glenncrockett4451]

I picked up a 89 Dakota std cab 8ft bed rust free under 95k on it dirt cheap, been working on it a little at a time while using it when I need a truck. Just did ball joints, tie rods, thru a new rack in it although the old one worked fine it leaked when it sat. I put a nice sound system out of left over stuff I've had since my early 20's in it ( I'm 54 now). I want to V8 swap it bad, been trying to find a 360 Magnum. I am not sure on what will work yet as I thought I need a obd1 motor which I haven't seen, 318 is all I can find in obd1

[@hughcasement5443]

Great list Ton.! Maybe do a hot hatch list sometime. My 500 abarth is TONS of fun! They are easy to get to 200+ hp and at 1800 lbs they're a go-cart with AC.

[@noahthompson1811]

The 80s gm b bodys like the caprice should be on the list, super cheap super easy to swap and all around good platform to go have fun in

[@njshire6317]

I had an 1988 Caprice police package came with 5.7 700r4 trans good car. Only had some top end work done to it with true dual exhaust l got a lot of attention with that thing.

[@jerryzotta4482]

Got a g-body sitting in my driveway now, 1978 Cutlass Salon with factory 305/4 spd. Evetually going gen2 LT1/6 spd out of my 1997 Trans Am parts car. Also have a 1995 Caprice 9C1 that may be getting a 383 LT1 (waiting in my garage now).

[@RacerRickxx]

My top 5 cheap muscle cars: 78-88 A/G-bodies - just great cars, cheap, and good all around cars, totally agree with Tony here. 3rd Gen Camaros - because the 2nd gens have gone way up and you can still get a manual trans/V8 one cheap 97-00 Dakota R/T's, - 360 with trick suspension, special frame, 17" wheels, performance gears, etc. Easy to build up the Magnum 360 and just better than the 1st gens in every way, way underappreciated. Get them before they take off in value. Foxbody Thunderbirds - basically a longer wheelbase mustang, and dirt cheap still while the mustangs have taken in price. 94-96 - Gm B-bodies, with the LT1. Especially the Road Master. Great cars, and only need a gear change to really wake them up. Easily tuned, tons of parts available, and can still be bought inexpensively. I would avoid the wagons and get the sedan. Honorable mentions: 80's Turbo mopars - just a ton of fun - watch out for rust. Try to get a TII Daytona or a Omni GLH for little rippers. Or a turbo minivan if you have a sense of humor. Mid 60's off brand fullsize cars - I have seen a ton of real decent mid 60's full size cars that were nice for sale cheap! Delta and Delmont Olds, Wildcats and Lesabre Buicks, Catalina and Star Chief Pontiacs (or if you are in Canada - the real bargains are the Parisiennes, especially Custom Sports and Grandes), Newports and Windsor Chryslers, and fullsize Dodge Monacos and Plymouth Fury's, Ford Galaxies, etc. All with big block power. Seen lots of very decent cars recently for cheap. You won't get an Impala, 300 Letter Series, or similar for cheap, but the same car with lesser trim, and without the top engines are still out there. If you want real cheap, get a 4 door. Pretty much any 49-52 Chevy, Pontiac, Ford, Plymouth, Dodge, etc. Basically the lower line cars. Most can be made to look cool easily, and will run at highway speed happily, but not much more. Unless you are going to do an engine swap though, don't expect to win any drag races. The 53-54's and Senior models are already climbing in price and no longer can be considered cheap, and the 48 and earlier vehicles are pricing themselves out of contention in general. You can still get these cars really cheap for good solid examples. Some of the cars on Tony's list that I don't agree with: Mopar F-bodies - nah, junk. Get the B body instead. Way better car all around, and tend to have less rust issues. Magnums look mean, especially if you find a XE or GT, and could be had with big block power for cheap still. Or you might find a mid 70's Road Runner Fury for cheap. Slow as hell but looks cool. C4 corvette - this is a little to expensive still to be considered cheap unless you get a complete turd. Decent ones early ones are pulling well over $5k, and nice ones are getting twice that pretty easy. Whats wierd is that recently I have been seeing late 70's C3 corvettes for very little money. Who knows if they have a frame left though. 73-77 A-bodies - You can still find decent 73-77 A-bodies for little money if you look around. I just saw a ratty but running 77' Monte Carlo for $1500.

[@Vekurus]

G bodies are starting to sky rocket. They are on the heels of the 3rd Gen F-bodies. You want a clean, rust free car? Doesn't matter which one, you're now well north of 10k. Specialty model? (442, Hurst, SS, or even a low mileage T-topped Cutlass Salon - 20k

[@nicsyourbuddy6291]

The C4 had the ZF6 6 speed which is smoother than a T56 but get pricey to fix and rebuild

[@eXX0n]

I'm hearing this correct? You're saying the C4 has live axle and dual trailing arm suspension in the rear, and it's not refined? Last I checked under my '84 Corvette it didn't have a live axle, but independent suspension. And it's surprisingly refined. They handle great. Really great suspension

[@El_Chompo]

I got a C4 last year out of pure luck! You should have seen the scene I bought it from it was like out of a movie haha. I love "characters" in real life but that's another story. It's deep dark green I believe not original color. 84 the worst year, worst engine, but I finally got it running really good after adjusting the TPS sensor and putting new plug wires and plugs. The suspension is stiff and I don't quite fit comfortably in it at 6' tall my head hits the roof bar if I sit straight up but man what an awesome car and I got such a good deal on it right before the price surges. I always liked the C5 more and thought the C4 was kind of ugly compared to it, but in person it looks so good, in pictures it looks bigger, it's really pretty small, and now I'm starting to like it more than the C5 because it just has so much glass and it's so low to the ground and more race car like than pretty much all the other corvettes, very wide and low and stiff susp and fast steering. The thing feels like a fine tuned machine and is very rewarding to drive, except when I take my eyes off the road. You know how with normal cars you can sort of look down for a while and the car just stays in it's lane somehow? I've learned that that is not by accident, these cars are designed amazingly to be able to do that and I appreciate it so much more now that I know what it's like to drive this corvette. The steering feels like it's on edge, like it always wants to turn one way or the other if you give it the chance. It's hard to explain, it doesn't actually pull to the side but the most minute steering wheel change will throw you across the road so you really have to pay attention and keep your eyes on the road at all times, I'm lucky I didn't crash already, just looking down at the radio for 5 seconds and being on the other side of the road multiple times now. No airbag either. But when you ARE paying attention, the steering and feedback and turning is incredibly satisfying, it's like perfect.

[@jeffersongraves5295]

The 84 has the stiffest suspension of the c4s and if you ever look at a side profile view you'll notice how similar the c5 and c6 look to the c4. You should also look at how similar a make supra looks like a c4 and how similar the mk4 looks like a c5. You should note that the c5 was supposed to originally release in '93.

[@robertjohnson4784]

Hey Tony a big fan of yours I remember the 1st time I seen you on hot rod garage and I said you are the man lol love what you're doing brother keep it going

[@joshbrekke6374]

Great vid and definitely funny. In the top 3 I must say 1964-67 GM A bodies are still available decent priced $5-$8k. Tempest, Lemans, Olds F-85 ect. Had a chance at over 7 driving good body examples over the last 5 years for $8500 or less. Many still out there as well. Lotta great options for them as well. 😉 We have two already so.

[@Haulass95gt]

Up to 108K already, heck yeah!! Keep growing man!

[@GeekGinger]

My parents bought a 78 Aspen with a 318 new. Not a bad looking car for the time. It was a huge POS, the 318 never ran right, but you could make it into something fun.

[@Stahodad]

In Canada the rust has taken all of them... just like mid to late 70's Novas 😔

[@bpowersman5000]

I said it last time and ill say it again. Pontiac Ventura, Olds Omega, Buick Apollo. The odd GM X bodies can be found for quite cheap and for the most part is just a Nova so parts are plentiful for cheap.

[@fmtfire72]

73-77 A-body and 78-87 G-body would be a tie. I bought a 1977 442 for $6500 last summer. 73K original miles. Doesn't need much. I've probably spent around $600 on an interior and I can drive it anywhere! Don't throw out the Colonnade just yet!

[@miker7294]

Good stuff. And great video. Looking forward to seeing a video for best JDM cars. Would love to get me one but don’t much about them.

[@number3665]

Funny enough G bodies in my area are super expensive and you're more likely to find a late 2nd Gen F Body for cheaper. 500 roller to like 4k nice runner around here.