Stellaris No Fleet Challenge

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Stellaris but we won't be building a Navy... ever.
I don't know if we can survive this No Fleet Challenge. We will have to face off against other empires and the crisis in order to survive!
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[@MontuPlays]

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[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

I think World of Warships has (or at least used to) have a space battle mode in the style of “Space Battleship Yamato”/“Star Blazers”, which makes it additionally appropriate as a sponsor for Montu.

[@CertifiedHuntingHornNoob]

Wait, I'm supposed to make a navy before someone declares war on me?

[@sw33tpwny]

You should do this again but then split the universe the Chinese wall challenge

[@SatanKarma1]

@@EyeOfMagnus4E201 it was a april fools event iirc

[@maiyes8712]

Montu: There are no threats in this universe also Montu: Aggressively recruits armies

[@Snoogen11]

They are not "ARMIES", they are "Peace keepers". Peace keepers on a "special military action".

[@cmdrtianyilin8107]

Ah, yes, galactic UAE/Dubai build. No army, spiritualist, monarchist...

[@TheAgamemnon911]

Hmm, what if there was a DLC for galactic sports competitions...

[@Curly_Horse]

@@TheAgamemnon911 Can't wait for the peripheric Devouring Swarm Hivemind to host the Galactic Games on their Tomb world Capital.

[@user-yt9ek2xh6i]

The UAE has one of the strongest and most modern armies in the Gulf. I guess it is like pre-independence Dubai when they had no army and were a British protectorate instead

[@titaniumwolf1123]

@@TheAgamemnon911 no..why would anyone want sports in a fun video game. sports ball is literally the most boring, mindless, personalityless shite in the world. Buncha fat guys screaming at a TV pretending they could've done whatever play the other fat guys on the TV messed up. That's football and other football in a nutshell

[@TheAgamemnon911]

@@titaniumwolf1123 whoooosh

[@kilerik]

Wait. You created a fallen empire for the next cycle!

[@endarus6053]

“Next cycle” A distant voice calls out from the void… A face with four eyes appears… He's telling you to push your enemies out of an airlock…

[@aetherial87]

Vernox Mandate: We absolutely CANNOT live on anything that moves. Orbital Mechanics: Am I a joke to you?

[@venoltar]

Indeed, they should have said they CANNOT live on anything that moves in opposition to the stellar gravity field. I would instead say local gravity field, but I think they would leave that to the extremist factions that are unable to get out of any holes they accidentally step into, making those factions rather short lived.

[@pathfindersavant3988]

Conservationist challenge may be fun. No clearing natural blockers, no terraforming non-barren worlds, Ranger Lodges on every world, no using any Megastructures that damage systems like Rings or Dysons. Just tree hugging and loving/respecting the natural worlds across the galaxy

[@archmagemc3561]

I don't think that'd work once you unlock the ability to make gaia worlds though, or have idyllic bloom. I do have an empire myself that played through in a way that wanted to make every world a gaia world, everyone loved them. xD

[@alehanedilko2147]

@@archmagemc3561 Than it Should be a Fanatic purifier and 55x Crisis.)

[@alvaroaraujo3986]

I once created a Preserver Carnivorous Hive Plantoid that only grew on Gaia worlds. I would convert huge worlds into Gaia worlds while feeding on everything that moved. Even Synthetics and Robots got eaten. (We weren't peckish) Later we became the crisis xD

[@Inactive_Account29283]

Howabout no tiles as well

[@Bombelostre]

I wish Paradox would do an overhaul of starbases and their modules. Also do some kind of copy&paste thing where you can copy one starbase setup onto another without micromanaging yourself to death.

[@grinchiestgrinch7289]

I miss the og battle stations you built with construction ships. Putting like 6 stations in a hyperlane choke point felt soo good.

[@Ahrone1586]

@@grinchiestgrinch7289 how was that?

[@EricLidiak]

Same. I have 1 Bastion, 1 Trade Station, 1 Anchorage, and 1 that I use with special modules

[@christianhumer3084]

@@Ahrone1586 It was long time ago, an update far, far away, well before the 2.0 Update attacked.

[@grinchiestgrinch7289]

@@Ahrone1586 they were like today's defense platforms on crack but you could only build so many in a system because there was a minimum range they had to be from other defensive stations

[@purpletwig]

That's literally me every game. I restart until I get decently friendly neighbours, and then I disband my navy. The AI breaks and all of them just guarantee my independence coz I'm too "weak". Then, I just tech rush until I get battleships and then conquer literally everyone in the vicinity.

[@archmagemc3561]

TBH you only need cruisers to conquor advanced neighbor empires since strkecraft hard counter corvettes and destroyers earlygame, and those are the bulk of AI fleets. However with the change to ship types next patch, and strikecraft not countering missiles/torpedos anymore, idk how well that will be in the future. It'll probably still work, but you'll need to actualy use that point defense.

[@TheDSasterX]

literally *every* game? zzzzzzzzzzz

[@dazeyndrowsy]

@@archmagemc3561 point defense destroyers, chuck a few of those in and you don't need to worry about missiles However the AI is learning the importance of bastions, and your carrier cruisers will smash against those and crumble, so artillery is necessary to an extent

[@fathead3389]

Nah i always help my big empire bros when i grow up and crush the ones who were big meanys to me or my ai bros

[@vaendryl]

ah yes, "the foundation" strategy. lol for the asimov fans

[@Xabraxus]

Technically with mercenary enclaves you are just 'telling' xenos what to do.

[@michaeledmunds7056]

This also works with federation fleets

[@rattled6732]

When you accidentally pray to the wrong chaos god and suddenly start vomiting

[@Delphineas]

"Makes pact with Nurgle" Prays to Slaanesh for an Avatar. Emperor save us from this heresy...

[@ZealotOfSteal]

The composer of strands sounds like Tzeench tho. :D

[@TheMrSeagull]

That would be Whisperers in the Void. Khorn being Eater of Worlds. Slaneesh being Instrument of Desire (Also, the End of the Cycle is a nod to Slaneesh's birth) Nurgle being the Composer of Strands.

[@Teknokraatti]

@@ZealotOfSteal Until you make the connection that the strands being composed are those of DNA, and that grandpa is about to grant his faithful a most virulent new gift.

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@TheMrSeagull I'm pretty shure that End of the Cycle is supposed to be Malal/Malice, the questionably canon 5th Chaos God.

[@insaneliddel3341]

when he was talking bout the dark prince i was like... eh... wait? isn't composer is papa nurgle? 30 mins later everything went into right order xD

[@dexasmoru8333]

same. i made a comment about half way in like, bruh, wrong god. Then like 10 mins latter you was oops. lol

[@diveheadfirst01]

Everyone watching this video: liking the video Me, a true Montu Plays enjoyer: begins mixing brick and mortar to begin construction of a fortress around that like button as toxic god intended

[@Apodeipnon]

It's frustrating that star bases don't count towards navy strenght, don't give power projection, don't help you diplomatically. I feel like they should, maybe they should only count half their power or smth, but they should count for something.

[@blazikem]

- France just before WW2

[@Stranger11105]

You can have people declare war because your fleet power is 200, watch their wee fleet get decimated by a 4k bastion, and just shrug

[@ruukinen]

I mean they don't project any power though. If you can't go out and beat someone into submission then you aren't projecting any power.

[@Stranger11105]

@@ruukinen That's what you think! Go, my projectile citadels! Teach those booboo bears a lesson!

[@AvenDonn]

Gunboat diplomacy only works if you can go over there and make them obey.

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

I've done this plenty of times. You want to be hardcore, do it with fortress worlds for chokepoint control instead of star fortresses/citadels. CADIA STANDS!

[@derfliegendetempler]

Why must you hurt me this way?

[@marley7868]

it's so broken fallen empires need to focus down any planet they find and even then there likley to lose if you pick strong, resilient and dump some cash in armies

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

@@marley7868 Strong, resilient, Underground civilization, lithoid-cyborgs.

[@yoanngaben1247]

​@@LowbrowDeluxe give a new meaning to the Hundred Years War

[@BlipsGaming]

I absolutely adore this new style of video! A story-driven role play centric play through with some unique and fun challenges to boot. I can imagine it was tough to make the video, let alone play this way - but would love to see more. Really creative Montu, keep it up!

[@Uwawa96]

I know Montu does not usually go Psionic, but C'mon... we all know the Instrument was Slanesh and the Composer is Nurgle... heck being Nugle Cultists while looking for the TOXIC god makes just so much more sense as well.

[@blazikem]

Can someone explain all these references I have no idea what it all means

[@Nukacola12345]

Warhammer 40k Nurgle. Look it up, too much for my thumb to write

[@rileychan5380]

I don't think KZbin would allow you to write it all. There's way too much someone needs to know to understand the chaos gods.

[@nicoruppert4207]

I gotta say, composer does not really represent nurgle particularly well. The other pacts can be interpreted easily as one of the ruinous four, but the composer is highly lacking in nurgle. Heck, the composer is more similar to Slaanesh and Tzeentch than to Nurgle.

[@TheMrSeagull]

Nurgle is about stagnation - by stripping away the trait picks, the player is severely limited on how much they can change of their speices.

[@TechNinjaSigma]

The Perfect Nurgle Playthrough. All hail, The Grandfather His Blessings Fester within us for all Eternity

[@SHDUStudios]

Love the documentary style, feels a lot like Timelines.

[@celwenileran2135]

This works SO MUCH BETTER if you're running Expanded Stellaris traditions mod. Before they even introduced Orbital rings, planetary ascension or buffs to defensive playstyle, you could've built a solid strategy off just you know... building stations and making them extremely hard to kill. Since some of the traditions give massive boosts to weapon range and also defensive/offensive capabilities of your stations and defense platforms.

[@syrusalder7795]

NSC also helps the armor modules give armor repair per day and the paradox recently fixed in-battle regen to actually work, so the poor AI keeps tossing fleet after fleet at my stations which endlessly vomit out more fighters as they struggle to even get to my station's hull, which not only has faster regen than my armor but like triple the hp.

[@mustlovedragons8047]

17:40 OBJECTION! The Composer of Strands is Nurgal. The Instrument of Desire is Sallenesh. 35:30 Well done. :)

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

Composer of strands. DNA experimentation. So Nurgle. Thus Toughness. But for some reason you said Slanesh. Sorry that's the prince of pleasure.

[@NKGerydos]

37:44 Of course you get the agrarian trait immediatly after you've realised that you have to praise Nurgle. You have to garden Grandpa's garden. 😀

[@Aja-e5j]

The composer of strands is nurgle, not slaanesh XD Slaanesh is the instrument of desire

[@sturmsuccessor4192]

You call it a challenge, for me it is just the usual way i play.

[@meneither3834]

Basically yeah, until you become an economical and scientific powerhouse, build a mega-shipyard and become the largest military power overnight.

[@alehanedilko2147]

Me, who almost always plays alloy rush Holy Trio: YOU WHAT?!?!?!?!?!??!

[@thefnlcntdwn830]

These challenge videos are so cool and I really enjoy the backstories and roleplaying narration you put into them. I hope you continue making these types of videos!

[@victorvondroom]

You make a no navy challenge I forget my military buildup until it's too late We are not the same

[@pallen2645]

My subterranean terravore crisis rush build uses zero fleets until menacing cruisers. He just relies on his nearly-uninvadable worlds to defend himself until he has enough unity to take Become the Crisis, polish off all the planets he's eaten down to nubs to generate menace, then he starts spitting out menacing corvettes using his insane mineral production.

[@robertjohn6585]

Very impressive stuff mate, loving this kind of content. there's a reason you're one of the biggest stellaris names out there 💪

[@jeerkku]

Fun fact, Viipuri is an old city the nation of Finland lost to the Soviet Union in the second world war. It's correct Finnish pronounciation is Vee-pu-re where the R is rolled. One can also call it Wyborg, however.

[@RoyalFusilier]

Very impressive style, a triangle of challenge runs, roleplay, and memes, all well-edited and delivered with enthusiasm. Definitely looking forward to checking out more.

[@homefront1999]

If you want something a bit easier and because there is a cap to how powerful a fortress can be. You can always remove the hyperdrive and make your ships only able to move in the one system.

[@olejnik5165]

I bought Stellaris 2 days ago after so many years i even remember playing 1.0 Stellaris and IM glad I found your channel! I love this type of challenge videos

[@benhall2307]

Mate, you're on a entirely different level recently. Live streams have been gold and this was the best story driven adventure yet. Well done and keep it up.

[@Alxndr57834]

These videos are awesome, the narrative aspect really makes it so much more enjoyable than a standard commentary gameplay session.

[@BK-yj7vg]

AI declared the crisis as crisis? But what about whales?

[@radaro.9682]

The indentured servitude bit made me chuckle. Too close to the truth.

[@eionconallen927]

I love the evolution of Vernox propaganda from "theres no logical way to fight galactic wars" to "these other empires have navies, but those seem pointless" to "no other empires have ever existed, what are you talking about"

[@3rdworldvictimyouvebeenlie817]

Never ever saw anything about Stellaris until today, thank you so freaking much for the experience, subscribed!

[@robjohnson3095]

I think you need to start as a Scholarium early on, and pump a lot of science into the galaxy, whilst becoming, well, the Galactic Illiminati, controlling things from the shadows. After your "Master" deals with the Crisis, you can then have them release you, and then become Galactic Emperor.

[@atavusable]

@0:21 "we are going to be the number one without building a single ship..." Me : so no construction ship ? Montu : goddammit.

[@TheJommy34]

Isn't composer of the strand are suppose to be Nurgle and not Slaanesh? 35:50 Welp look like he finally realize it lmao

[@sethierot7067]

It was so funny, i was doubting the Warp like composer should be nurgle right? But you were so confidently proclaiming your Nation worshipping Slanesh xD you had me convinced

[@Ramschat]

The composer of stands is not Slaanesh, that would be the instrument of desire. :)

[@Ramschat]

Ah good, he did realise it eventually... It fits so well with the toxic god as well

[@DevelopedGames]

this was one of my favorite ones yet, keep it up montu

[@dinen5000]

okay its actually so incredibly based of you to have actually made a video already for this, i looked up "no navy challenge stellaris" fully excepting to get no actual videos but here you are

[@obilesk]

Thanks!

[@MontuPlays]

Thanks for your support!

[@Allonsy42]

I love the narrative style of your content, it really fits a game with such long gameplay

[@brunocapelloto6666]

17:40 come one... Slaanesh is the Instrument of Desire not the Composer of Strands

[@carloreytansiongco8741]

35:45 Malavites be like: "The moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, I disgusted be. I crave the resilience of that what is rotting. I aspire to the certainty of decay." Turns empire into a scab in the universe. Unscratchable.

[@mr.morningstar9906]

For some reason both the Composer of Strands and Whisperers in the Void both sound exactly like Tzeentch names lol

[@CrazyDutchguys]

The empire being stuck in eternal staganation is about as Nurgle as you can get

[@karalas]

Watched this at work riding in the truck your story had my coworker fully invested

[@aksmex2576]

I didn't know defensiveness can be that powerful in vanilla. I imagine millions of organic species falling back into the protected zones and later liberating the galaxy.

[@ImperadorLucius]

He turned himself in a fallen empire. One day the contengency will die off. And they will remain stagnant empire. And new forms of lifes will reach evolution fase.

[@nerdsahhgaming4779]

No Fleet Challenge: My Average Megacorp Playthrough

[@Wolfspaule]

I always play that way^^ Space-Bunkers!

[@harryd5571]

Ah, hello there! You are my neighbor indeed! Do you know what's even better than a Space Bunker? Yes! More Space Bunkers! Space bunker appreciating civilizations never need to go to war with each other, they simply know what's good for them. Buy Space Bunkers, buy peace! J. Edgar Homer - President of the Galactic Space Bunker Investment, Trading & Construction Company 😁👍🏼

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

Looked at some reviews and beginners guides to Stellaris cause it looked really interesting, but your story videos have sold me on the game. The role-playing just seems so fun

[@morenochavezluisenrique4512]

I like this roleplaying campaigns, quite fun and entertaining

[@EpicToastish]

the transition into the advertisement was so smooth i actually watched it

[@littlebigx1106]

The ending is like the starting setting of Attack on Titan xD WALLS, and threats everywhere outside them.

[@tylerbrown9631]

+1 sub Randomly found your channel through this vid. Best 48 minutes I've spent all week. Can't wait to see more of your stuff.

[@MontuPlays]

Hey! Glad you enjoyed it. If yo uncheck out the description there is a whole series of videos in this style!

[@tylerbrown9631]

Thank you for that. I'm enjoying the no research challenge right now. I'm amazed at what you're able to pull off. I play on an easier difficulty and have a difficult time every game. Your script writing and cadence is top notch, too. Keep up the good work!

[@rich_r11]

This is one of my favorite playstyles. I support the Ai as a megacorp, give them resources and try to lead them to victory.

[@Vertigo6000]

dude just created a straight fallen empire, without the empire.

[@danielrodrigues9236]

I’m actually glad you reminded me to like, I was so gripped I totally would’ve forgot

[@maxwallace2123]

And thus a new fallen empire is born, waiting for the next cycle of the galaxy...

[@KitKatHexe]

The Composer of Strands is actually Nurgle. The Instrument of Desire is Slaanesh.

[@vypergaming117]

"The strongest deffence is a swift and decisive offense" -obiwan kenobi

[@zephsuki]

So what are your beliefs? Empire 1: XENOS ARE CRINGE empire 2: DEMOCRACY CRINGE Montu: THEY PUT A THRUSTER ON A SPACE HABITAT

[@ombrepourpre7562]

Fun fact : our big silly warrior said "I'm become invisible" because himself can see other if they don't move. So for him, someone immobil become part of the picture, and so almost invisible. Ps : I really love the full package of storytelling you do, for each video ❤ It's fun, give life to it, and so much better 👍

[@ergomate9092]

Odd request, but any chance you could upload your save file to Google Drive or something? Would be really fun to continue this scenario, even as stagnant as it would be!

[@martinrwolfe]

This is crazey KZbin through in an advert in the first min of your video in the middle of your sponsorship messeage.

[@aeg001]

Awesome play. Love the RPG content too!

[@EvelynNdenial]

someone make a mod that adds the vernox mandate as a fallen empire, as clearly they survived a galactic cycle they qualify, and give them some custom modifiers that prevent ship building and buff the hell out of starbases.

[@dbatchison]

This should be called an Albania build. Just bunkers everywhere.

[@QueenMooSuko]

I've done a similar play through recently where I got brainslugs as a ravenous hivemind w/ progenitor hive origin and crystal forged plating. I created fleets of destroyers armed with swarmer and marauder missiles, with a hit and run war doctrine. My fortress stations keep the enemy helplessly deadlocked in their advance, whilst my high evasion, stocky destroyers gradually chip away at them. They'll lose battles, but with minimal losses, quickly and easily replaced, while my enemy suffers moderate, to heavy losses. In the end, the whole galaxy works tirelessly, without end to try and destroy me, as I become the crisis, but are unable to do enough damage to my fleets, while suffering horrific losses, with nothing gained. Surprisingly, no colossal ship types have been used against me, beyond what an awakened empire initially brought. It was never able to fire, and I believe my victory is assured so long as none are ever permitted to fire upon my fortress stations.

[@realaccount3887]

the fact that the contingency ignored him because he had no fleet power is hilarious

[@ringthatbell9597]

Why are so many things covered over with pink? Also congratulations your now a fallen empire

[@thebuffman5597]

easier idea: Go progenitor hive Make a puppy bulwark with lots of fleet power and permission to reintroduce them into the empire, make them loyal and friendly btw with garrisons, etc. Now the funny part. After every war reintroduce them to the empire, then make 1 planet from the rest into another empire. You can this way at end-game have HUGE empires. Just make sure to always fight on the side the bulkwark is on. No planets? Build a habitat, cut off the starbase by demoting it, then while rebuilding it, make it a new sector and create vassal and viola, you have a 1 star vassal.(honestly, you should be able to select sectors anyway, so i don't think this is exploiting, it is just making progenitor more reliable.) So yeah, you can do it in another way.

[@kingstalesans]

Hmm, this is how fallen empires are made

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

This might even work against any crisis love it

[@manemperorofmankind8119]

You know what… with the Giga and ACOT mod, this could be alot of fun! So long as your able to early rush and grab a bunch of land, probs help a ton with that fleet lag too

[@blazikem]

Yooo I thought about that too Terraforming as many planets in chokepoints to get Orbital Rings sounds dope I wish once starbases were destroyed you didn't have to remake them from scratch though

[@manemperorofmankind8119]

@@blazikem thought I replied to this awhile back but guess not, there is a mod that lets you do that, they will rebuild any starbases you lose after a fight. But if you lose a heavily defended point it’s a pain to get it back

[@GusMortis]

Poor Frederic is already clutching his chest in anticipation of the playthrough.

[@TheArklyte]

Montu, calling Composer of Strands aka Nurgle(though with less bacteria and more of weird Dark Eldar experimentation aftertaste) as Slaanesh: tomato, potato \/(-_-)\/

[@canadian__ninja]

It's such a power move to make a video about not making ships on a video being sponsored by a game called "World of Warships"

[@OsorezaN7]

"Propulsed by the means of, well, propulsion". I choked on my breakfast, well done.

[@admiralpellaeon631]

Oh, so this is where those Blackstone fortresses came from

[@Robodroide-NPC]

Isnt composer of strands nurgle and instrument of desire slaneesh? 17:42

[@Robodroide-NPC]

Looked further into the video he realized his mistake

[@bravalloy]

Navy: See the Space! No babies!

[@grottoguru6473]

Btw I'm pretty sure the Composer of Strands is Nurgle. Instrument of Desire would be Slaanesh 🙂 Edit: Also, loved that Twilight Imperium shout out with the Sardakk Norr at 22:05

[@TheDelta01]

My allies do this one all the time

[@isaacgorski6054]

What is funny about this is you can just ignore so many things you would otherwise devote so much time to researching

[@EtienneLudor]

I was going to say you built the Bentusi, but then I remembered the rigged super acolytes.

[@vaendryl]

I was expecting lots of maginot worlds... but I forgot that's not actually a vanilla mechanic xD well, asteroid artillery would've been pretty fun that game too I'm sure.

[@Megan-ii4gf]

So that's how stagnant ascendancies are made!

[@tatzecom]

So... basically... youve become a stagnant Ascendancy and if/when the Contigency runs out of replacement parts or software updates or succumbs to bitrot, youll be the Fallen Empire

[@isuckatusernames4297]

you should do this challenge with mods like gigastructures and ACOT, considering how crazy tall you can make your empire. as well as just how much you can fortify your positions

[@Purrfect_Werecat]

and they became the next ancient civilization of another game

[@123HunterHead]

This story would be crazy if this is what happens in universe. Especially calamity.

[@ethanbates2592]

I thought the composer was Nurgle? and the Instrument of Desire was Slaanesh?

[@ethanbates2592]

oh, you did address that lol