If Derek Carr was on the Steelers having the seasons he’s been having over his career. No question Stephen A would have him in his top 5. SMH
@johnhyonlee3 жыл бұрын
its too early. we talking about 2 games. if 2 games is the standard, then aaron rodgers had one good game and one bad game. He's terrible.
@CoachLevy73 жыл бұрын
It’s not 2 games. He’s been playing well for years. Raiders just weren’t ready to win
@johnhyonlee3 жыл бұрын
@@CoachLevy7 i'm not arguing he hasn't been playing well, but you wouldn't say he's been a top 5 qb over the past few years. so to throw him in your top 5 after two games is ridiculous.
@1Ashtronomical3 жыл бұрын
He not a top 5 qb
@CoachLevy73 жыл бұрын
@@johnhyonlee top 5 is hard. They’re are great QBs in the league. It matters if he’s elite. Which is what he is
@JorgePerez-yv9pw3 жыл бұрын
Keyshawn the only man to say something positive about Carr before he even won the first 2 games 💯
@cliftonswinson7282 жыл бұрын
So true
@matthewcastro-93033 жыл бұрын
Top 10 as of RIGHT NOW is fair for Derek Carr he is off to a fantastic start
@slimhardaway83 жыл бұрын
The topic is top 5
@matthewcastro-93033 жыл бұрын
@@slimhardaway8 I know I disagree with Keshawn
@duragdave493 жыл бұрын
@TheGrandSage23 he has a case for top 5 rn
@slimhardaway83 жыл бұрын
@TheGrandSage23 Did I say he was top 5? What's your point?
@krisroops10353 жыл бұрын
its been two games bro. if thats the case teddy bridgewaters a top 5 right now based off first two weeks
@MrNikoscott933 жыл бұрын
Put some RESPECT on Derek Carr’s name! ✊🏽
@alanarmitigelmh51413 жыл бұрын
Right now! Yeah I can give him the respect he deserves. Carr still has a whole lot of catching up to do though.💯
@eddierabelo55693 жыл бұрын
No
@cliftonswinson7282 жыл бұрын
How
@DearxAgony023 жыл бұрын
I expected the Raiders to start 5-3(losses to PIT/BAL/LA) But now.....I can see them going undefeated until Chargers or the Chiefs... As for Derek Carr, he's always been elite. It's just that no one was winning with that Raiders defense
@fabiancorrea82793 жыл бұрын
Chargers?? 😂 please man, they looked awful against the cowboys.
@CalobAdamsInfamous9133 жыл бұрын
@@fabiancorrea8279 they held the Cowboys to 29 points…
@everythingque46353 жыл бұрын
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 29 lmao. That’s a lot. Raiders were like top 10 last year around 28 ppg
@Tomyohann3 жыл бұрын
I would say right now that he's top 5 just for this season. He's playing exceptional and leading his team to wins against above-average defenses like the Steelers
@BallKnowledge213 жыл бұрын
we’ve played 2 games
@Tomyohann3 жыл бұрын
@@BallKnowledge21 "for this season"
@CalobAdamsInfamous9133 жыл бұрын
@@Tomyohann two games isn’t a whole season
@Tomyohann3 жыл бұрын
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 it's implied for the first two games.
@Tomyohann3 жыл бұрын
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 for this season means I'm not implying the future
@AliFrankTheTank3 жыл бұрын
Carr over Russell Wilson??? Crack
@Tomyohann3 жыл бұрын
Btw I remember Stephen A saying Derek Carr gave up on his team a couple of years ago. At least admit you're wrong.
@andresj3613 жыл бұрын
Stephen might be rethinking his choice to get Max fired. Now he’s going against actual players and he’s not looking good at all.
@suki3553 жыл бұрын
Are you stupid? Keyshawn dumb as f to put carr above, mahomes, brady, rodgers, kyler, russ, dak, lamar.
@alexcampos51943 жыл бұрын
Joe K Kyler Murray, Dak or Jackson is not better then Carr Foh
@quincykhalifa3 жыл бұрын
@@suki355 he’s playing better than all of them right now !!! How many of them 2-0 right ?! How many has more yards than carr … 0
@johnnyboi773 жыл бұрын
derek carr isn’t top 5
@suki3553 жыл бұрын
@@quincykhalifa so u base everything off of 2 games??? i guess if in nba some random has higher pts than lebron, that makes him top 5 player too.. goood lord, peoples logic...
@chadanderson98723 жыл бұрын
Maybe not yet, but he could have a top 5 QBR by the end of the season if he keeps playing this well. Kyler too.
@jgard11683 жыл бұрын
Bruh what ? Look at the numbers lol
@firellparker74633 жыл бұрын
@@jgard1168 so what. You don't need the numbers to tell you something
@jgard11683 жыл бұрын
@@firellparker7463 Do you know how stupid you sound ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@davidsuarez29503 жыл бұрын
IF Carr was to maintain these numbers weekly, win or lose, he be lookin' at give or take, 6.7k pass yards. And would be first in NFL History in a single season... that would be sick hehe.. Go Raiders!
@jtarmstrong13433 жыл бұрын
@@jgard1168 the numbers? like being one of only 3 QBs to throw 4k+ yards with fewer than 10 interceptions (the other two being Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes) please, I beg you to actually watch film on Carr instead of looking at stats for your opinions
@kobeisreallyasian3 жыл бұрын
A molly away from being a great debate
@aw81193 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@AMGDropEmOff3 жыл бұрын
Derek Carr definitely isn't top 5 but it's not like he's trash.
@Mr.Burton173 жыл бұрын
He’s very close top 7 at least
@The__Nation3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Burton17 top 15
@metalmaniac12443 жыл бұрын
He's around #12
@davidaguirre46093 жыл бұрын
He’s like 6-7-8
@lebourreau71773 жыл бұрын
The only Qbs better OR smarter than Carr are Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Mahomes, and MAYBE Prescott
@jegca3 жыл бұрын
I guess whoever sits in Max's chair has to say outrageous stuff so that SAS can react with his high pitch screams... LOL
@GoAstros1233 жыл бұрын
That's why I ever took interest in First Take in the first place. Skip Bayless was great at riling him up.
@markgillette10033 жыл бұрын
100% HAHAHAHAHA
@stormedits233 жыл бұрын
How is that a outrageous take?
@jegca3 жыл бұрын
@@stormedits23 Calling a QB a top 5 QB when he is only top 5 in 1 category, total pass yards, and saying all this after only 2 games of the start of a season... OK buddy.
@stormedits233 жыл бұрын
@@jegca they are 2-0 on the season against two playoff teams and the ravens just beat the chiefs and the raiders beat thay team and Carr is playing at a elite level if you say he’s not too 5 RIGHT NOW your a idiot casual
@mackenzieyoung53063 жыл бұрын
He really just said Derek care over russ😂😂😂😂
@michaelharvell893 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@mrshs43323 жыл бұрын
Y'all are mean blind and sleeping if you don't understand he spitting facts
@mackenzieyoung53063 жыл бұрын
@@mrshs4332 yea bruh lol
@BTCthavillian3 жыл бұрын
I see his point but nah lmao
@mrshs43323 жыл бұрын
Y'all need to rewatch the surgeon Carr slicing up 2 great defenses. Looking at 2 weeks ONLY he looks elite
@chrismathgenius3 жыл бұрын
While Keyshawn is overrating the Raiders when he ranked them #3 in his power rankings and is insane for taking Derek Carr over Russell Wilson, they do deserve more credit than what many are giving them. We'll see if they can maintain their high-level play throughout the entire season.
@lebourreau71773 жыл бұрын
I agree but I also think Carr is the most disrespected good QB of all time
@davidsuarez29503 жыл бұрын
@@lebourreau7177 Thats what it is about, brotha! Better that way... Carr continues to prove it year after year anyway.. people need to learn how to look at the correct statistics/player individually... people who really love this sport and is a day 1'r, know that the season always resets to 0-0 and Super Bowl Champs end up the defending Champs... and cut out the fanboy stats! Fanboys are hella emotional for the wrong reasons lol pssssht...GO RAIDERS! Get em DC!
@truthbringer-67483 жыл бұрын
It isn't insane to pick Carr over Wilson. I think people just aren't familiar with Carr. Carrs arm talent and decision making is as good as gets. The problem is the Raiders organization has been terrible. Russel was drafted to a great organization that protected him with a great defense and line. Carr was thrown in the fire to shitty organization with no defense and extremely average receivers. Despite all that Carr is eating every year. If you put Carr on Seattle I think he would have more succes than Russ.
@SaluteDaStrong3 жыл бұрын
Carr can actually see the field from the pocket and make all the throws. Small QB have the the tendency to scramble because they can't see & WR cant find the ball as well because hes 5'9
@citizenchannel28883 жыл бұрын
@@truthbringer-6748 On point. Couldn't agree more.
@slippinsteve87063 жыл бұрын
I trust the guy who has actual in game nfl experience over a suit and tie
@johnhyonlee3 жыл бұрын
please dont just say that. Ryan Hollins is going to enter the chat
@yengvang87373 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this segment between these two😂😂
@castr0w0rld982 жыл бұрын
Is ESPN laughing now with Carr in the playoffs and their baby boy Herbert watching at home?
@metalmaniac12443 жыл бұрын
Key lost all credibility when he said he'd take Derek Carr over Russell Wilson
@jesusr.78293 жыл бұрын
It’s called an opinion brotha.
@Y2Shadows3 жыл бұрын
Same Russell Wilson that stays losing the Seahawks games every year by Week 12? That Russell Wilson? Dude is overrated man, give it a rest
@mj38463 жыл бұрын
Wilson is overrated
@kimstuart79893 жыл бұрын
i'm from seattle. I was at the game sunday vs the titans. Russ is officially frustrating me. We were up 2 possessions and Russ with the playcalling still tried to pass the ball instead of running and milking that clock, keeping the ball out of henry's hands. Russ is all world talented, but my QB definitely tries to prove way too much to nobody instead of just doing what he needs to do to secure wins. Dominate the game early, then manage the clock. He always seems to forget that second part.
@Ibarrabud3 жыл бұрын
Why? I would
@angusdog223 жыл бұрын
Carr been through some tough times , I want to see him get MVP …. And some playoff wins . He’s got that coming . ☠️
@eddierabelo55693 жыл бұрын
No
@596beastmode3 жыл бұрын
over wilson?🤣🤣
@conoroboyle45473 жыл бұрын
Keyshawn spitting facts 🔥🔥🔥
@michaelvaladez35293 жыл бұрын
🤨
@The__Nation3 жыл бұрын
Casual.... it’s 10 QB’s that’s better than Carr
@slim51363 жыл бұрын
Facts only clowns can relate to
@richardgutierrez263 жыл бұрын
@@The__Nation no there is not hes definitely top 10, i don't agree hes top 5 but hes definitely in the next 5, i say hes 7th or 8th
@johnnyboi773 жыл бұрын
you think derek care is better than russel wilson?
@christiandacosta3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the video mash up of Stephen A eating his words at the end of the season.
@JuaquinTheDream243 жыл бұрын
Stephen A talks like we all agree with him when we really like calm down bruh😂
@myth85513 жыл бұрын
Over 380 yards in the first three games of the season and a 3-0 record 🤔
@joshdavidian3 жыл бұрын
Carr with his current receivers is a top 5! Waller, Ruggs, Renfrow, Edwards!
@tragedyturnedtriumph41803 жыл бұрын
Too soon, we still don't know what these receivers can do besides Waller being clutch.
@TheFunkytownGotcha3 жыл бұрын
I like Carr and all... but come on Key... You'd take Carr over Russ? that's CAAAAAAAAAP!
@fbistatmajor59183 жыл бұрын
Good to see ESPN having Keyshawn and Michael Irvin on the show. It's nice to see the show finally has a black guy on it
@ynic4lyfe6683 жыл бұрын
Sas thinks he so much better than everybody 😂
@CarbonZombie3 жыл бұрын
Stephen a just hates carr after carr called him out on Twitter a few years ago 😂
@normabatista14723 жыл бұрын
Carr called out Max too lol
@abqfire723 жыл бұрын
Has Stephen A ever played a day of football in his life lol
@potentialxp44833 жыл бұрын
😂 my account was hack . Car is not a top 5 😂😂
@sk7nyc3 жыл бұрын
Keyshawn lost me when he picked Derek Carr ahead of Russell Wislon.
@jameswatson25073 жыл бұрын
I swear russell willson gets disrespected every time he is mentioned on espn smh they just hate the boy.
@louieaceves203 жыл бұрын
Not more than carr
@alberttorres60203 жыл бұрын
Bro this man said Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson better at quarterback than Carr man does he need a new TV..one week Lamar's the reason and next week his arms the problem..and Kyler stop it still smell the Similac on that boy.
@stringtheory80903 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry 1st take is no longer a top 5 sports show anymore
@5lim.03 жыл бұрын
When people say top 10 I always say, “name your top 10?!” Mahomes, Rogers, Wilson, Jackson, Murray There’s five right there!
@johnpestano70773 жыл бұрын
Competition argument is mute you can't change who you play. you play who you play that doesn't diminish your success a win is a win.
@johngillis29193 жыл бұрын
Funny how Keyshawn played and Stephen A didn't
@OleScram3 жыл бұрын
Keyshawn is on to something. Carr is a baller , even AB knew that 💯
@snaggs1073 жыл бұрын
SAS thought he was gonna catch key lacking..... NOPE!.. Schooled!
@michaelharvell893 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever said the man was trash but top 5? Come on bruh
@monetarymindset_3 жыл бұрын
Keyshawn crazy.
@hhghlsjdid42033 жыл бұрын
Max makes more sense
@andreh18883 жыл бұрын
Give Carr his flowers... He's getting it done. Raaaaaaiders!
@patrickbarthold3593 жыл бұрын
Brady mahomes Rodgers Stafford Wilson in no particular order with Prescott Jackson Allen Murray Herbert to around out the top ten next question lol 😂
@patrickbarthold3593 жыл бұрын
Derek Carr is up there too at his peak like some years he’s in 6-10 range
@RyuujinLetum3 жыл бұрын
I would probably switch Wilson and Jackson after Week 2.
@davidaguirre46093 жыл бұрын
Carr is better than Stafford, Allen, Kyler and Herbert
@aneeshanand96213 жыл бұрын
@@RyuujinLetum Jackson and the Ravens beat the Chiefs but Jackson threw 2 picks buddy.
@RyuujinLetum3 жыл бұрын
@@aneeshanand9621 and? He didn't make any mistakes after. It was 2 back-to-back. One of them caught by surprise the other was his own fault. Again after? He did not make a single mistake
@johnpestano70773 жыл бұрын
Carr is playing well but the raiders need to make the playoffs to justify his early success. can he lead his team to the playoffs people want to see that.
@andrewhernandez87723 жыл бұрын
1. Patrick Maholmes 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Josh Allen 4. Tom Brady 5. Russel Wilson 6. Lamar Jackson 7. Dak Prescott (Deshaun Watson pending) 8. Kyler Murray 9. Derek Carr 10. Matthew Stafford
@hill30673 жыл бұрын
SAS setup is simple. If he don't like you or about to diss you then he will say you not a scrub or you can play then the diss comes after 🤣🤣
@scruffd0g1933 жыл бұрын
Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson are all 1000% better, Carr may be Top 5 by the end of the season if he throws for 5200 yards
@slim51363 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget LJ, Josh Allen n Deshaun Watson
@jqwiiiiqqirmnsnnsnnsnnsmjjrj3 жыл бұрын
@@slim5136 Josh Allen has played horribly this season so far.
@KingHaremYT3 жыл бұрын
@@slim5136 Allen is not better than Carr.
@tragedyturnedtriumph41803 жыл бұрын
Llamar is a good Qb in his own way but if you picking Lamar over Carr that's something else😅
@rrogers23703 жыл бұрын
Key is a liar. He would have loved to play with drew brees.
@Franzel5273 жыл бұрын
im just assuming that keyshawn's top 5 means the current top 5 in the league right now after week 2 and i like carr but i can name around 6 qb that is better than him(imo) brady ,mahomes, stafford ,dak, r. wilson and murray(not in order) i didnt even include rodgers because of what happened in week 1 but he can be in the top 3 qbs
@pucksnpicks Жыл бұрын
Who else is here after Molly cooked Key on First Take today? 😂
@DkDaKiDD Жыл бұрын
me
@brianwillis8447 Жыл бұрын
Tried to act like he didn't say this 😭🤣🤣
@vincentrodriguez947 Жыл бұрын
@@brianwillis8447 to be fair he said it wasn’t last year it was the year before 😭😭
@highhheruppp21623 жыл бұрын
Denarius Moore, Brice Butler, Andre Holmes, Old James Jones, Old Jordy Nelson, Seth Roberts, Johnny Holton, Jared Cook, Cordarrale Patterson… those are wide receivers he had to work with somewhat before and during the time amari cooper and Michael Crabtree were there. Do any of those names ring a bell to anyone?. Clive walford mychal rivera David ausberry(TEs) … Carr hasn’t even touched the tip of the iceberg when it comes down to the damage he could do with top wideouts. Mind you all. Crabtree was on the back end of his career and was his safety blanket to cooper. Cooper played conservatively in Oakland. Didn’t sell out like he does for dak. He purposely played his way out of that franchise. Carr is a BAAAD MAN if you give him the pieces he needs
@icyowens78533 жыл бұрын
Players who have thrown 4000+ yds and 10 or less int over the last 3 seasons… Aaron Rodgers Derek Carr
@nyojele3 жыл бұрын
carr is not top 5 idc what anyone says lol 😂
@kolesiikahihifo54413 жыл бұрын
Now Carr has a Defense, watch out NFL
@ramonalderman17573 жыл бұрын
Love the comment I'm a Raiders fan. I would agree but he needs at least one polished veteran receiver. He got young inexperienced receivers who don't get open a lot
@chuckydeetv5593 жыл бұрын
DEREK CARR IS A TOP 5 QB💯☠🖤
@Kidd_Luvv3 жыл бұрын
He is 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️ also bring back Max
@parkerbragg70933 жыл бұрын
He ain’t
@mr.anderson36943 жыл бұрын
It's not just about stats. You have to be able to lead your team to the playoffs. Carr is a very good QB, who can sometimes look great, but until he proves he can get his team to a meaningful playoff game, he can't be called a top five QB.
@Oldemail3373 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly
@Cheeze4103 жыл бұрын
Every game in the playoff is meaningful because it’s win or go home. Now if you said win a playoff game your post would make more sense
@mr.anderson36943 жыл бұрын
@@Cheeze410 Just making the playoffs doesn't mean sh'it. If you don't at least get to the championship game you failed. Nobody wants to be one and done. Plus if Carr is supposed to be a top five QB now, he needs to get his team to a big game. No moral victories allowed.
@andresj3613 жыл бұрын
This shows Stephen A Smith is being paid to be animated and create those short IG/YT clips. Keyshawn spitting facts and he’s laughing in his face, Stephen A lucky Keyshawn didn’t lay him out.
@Hugoboss-gh6up3 жыл бұрын
So you think derek carr is better than russel Wilson?
@chicho13133 жыл бұрын
Well guess what Stephen A , Carr just beat Little Ben and dem steelers AGAIN!
@cliftonswinson7282 жыл бұрын
Keyshan talking out the side of his neck
@DORAEMON-bw8jk3 жыл бұрын
Derek Carr is the front runner for league MVP. No one else is even close in this race.
@dtew49283 жыл бұрын
Brady?
@jasontheworldisyours3 жыл бұрын
Brady, Patrick, Rodgers, Wilson, Lamar I don't see Carr in the Top 5 QBs
@drag0..3 жыл бұрын
Lamar is def not top 5 QB, top 5 athlete for sure to
@19EHF Жыл бұрын
Here after Molly RIGHTFULLY called him out on that BS take
@lebourreau71773 жыл бұрын
I'm picking Carr over anyone not named Rodgers Mahomes or Brady and I'll die on my sword saying that.
@spencerklei82003 жыл бұрын
Stephen a saying oh my god had me dying lol
@TK_1113 жыл бұрын
I can’t can’t listen to SAS after knowing he kicked max off first take
@kevinmccallister86463 жыл бұрын
Ok bye😂
@michaeld.lancaster49533 жыл бұрын
Derek Carr has been playing great but Carr is not a top 5. I can't believe Keshawn said he wanted Carr over Russell Wilson and Kyle Murray. Smh
@dpita34563 жыл бұрын
Stephen made no points in arguments smh.
@TheColdest5103 жыл бұрын
He had to be able to win down the stretch first he always has good numbers
@DukesVerrill3 жыл бұрын
"he aight" lmao
@KarloBacolod3 жыл бұрын
Interesting debate question here. Carr is clearly a top 5 QB as of right now. This entire season, naw man.
@naturalnaturesounds3333 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Barren-MIND3 жыл бұрын
What they don't tell you here is that if you extend it to 3 years instead of 2, there's only 2 quarterbacks with 4,000 plus yards and that's Aaron rodgers and Derek Carr. They are just dying to add mahomes to everything lol
@beauwills32763 жыл бұрын
Listen to how he comes off childish about Carr, just shows that he is all up in hiss feelings and butthurt that his sqeelers got beat by him.
@dawsoncheney19473 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about Max Kellerman and his outrageous takes… but he would never say Derek Carr is a top 5 QB
@SaluteDaStrong3 жыл бұрын
Key " I want to see the ball come out" 💯 👏🏾
@rd-pd8xb3 жыл бұрын
Well Stephen A has soooo much experience as player/scout/coach/GM…
@michaelharvell893 жыл бұрын
Saying Carr is better than RW might be worse than the cliff theory
@JersiiLoVe3 жыл бұрын
TBH this is Keys personal preference Stephen A. acting like that's a bad thing 😹😹😹
@t.emanuelson47333 жыл бұрын
its more the coach and system than the qb
@briangibbon33813 жыл бұрын
Steve should stop laughing Keyshawn knows way more about football then steve... Steve doesn't know much about any sport. I don't get why he is paid so much to say irrelevant things.
@handymandy203 жыл бұрын
SAS don’t know football cmon!!!!!!!
@mileswilliams89383 жыл бұрын
Stephen A be trying to debate Keyshawn be giving him straight facts
@JQUE943 жыл бұрын
If he hadn't broken his leg and then a bone in his back the following year which could mentally break anyone, on top of no real consistency he would have continued balling like he did in 2016 when we finally got back to the playoffs. Stop bullshitting
@Ravikesh19913 жыл бұрын
I aint gonna lie.. Keyshawn and Stephen A better than any two peeps. Both can talk that talk
@dudenamedluke3 жыл бұрын
Stephen A always misses as a Raiders fan I’m not surprised he’s casual af
@adamvalerino64743 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Derek Carr fan been a Raider fan my whole life along with my dad but Carr is 7-12 QB overall. If we are strictly talking about this season then yea he's top 5 so far for the year
@macho-qs1hy3 жыл бұрын
Seahawks and Raiders are different in that Seahawks are consistent and Raiders are up n down, that's why some analysts prefer Russ , Carr is a gunslinger so some prefer him, so its a matter of taste
@coboog18583 жыл бұрын
DEREK CARR OVER RUSSEL WILSON?!?
@bighoyaspasadena23573 жыл бұрын
Stephen A should stop hatting with that hair line bruh he's such a Raiders hatter.
@Jr-ei9mq3 жыл бұрын
so who we moving, Lamar, Mahomes, brady, Murray, Rodgers, Wilson, Watson, Herbert, Prescott, or Allen. dis guy talkin bout top 5.
@selfstarter95243 жыл бұрын
Steven a Smith's Honor has fallen. lol.
@tayttg3 жыл бұрын
Keyshawn needs to be fired
@everythingque46353 жыл бұрын
Dereks not top 5. But it’s hard to find 10 better so I’ll say top 10. Maybe high as 8.
@scruffd0g1933 жыл бұрын
Also what has carr done better than Wilson. Wilson has Seattle as playoff contenders every year, CARR HAS A LOSING RECORD
@saintpablo4273 жыл бұрын
Carr being better than Wilson is laughable. Wilson has been one of the most consistent QB’s in the league in terms of getting to the post season. Derek Carr hasn’t won a playoff game yet. And in terms of overall Talent Carr isn’t even better than Stafford. No way he’s Top 5