Stephen Kotkin, "Stalin: Volume I"

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Politics and Prose

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@ronnestman4696
@ronnestman4696 4 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is my new addiction. Love listening to him lecture.
@inappropriatern8060
@inappropriatern8060 4 жыл бұрын
Same, friend. Same. Volume 3 out in two weeks!!
@inappropriatern8060
@inappropriatern8060 4 жыл бұрын
....and probably a bunch of new lectures!
@bobanrajowic
@bobanrajowic 3 жыл бұрын
@@inappropriatern8060 where is it?
@ingenuity168
@ingenuity168 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@nationradical
@nationradical 3 жыл бұрын
WHEN/WHERE IS IT COMING OUT!
6 жыл бұрын
He wears his considerable knowledge lightly and is a riveting speaker.
4 жыл бұрын
@Min Tin So you were pals with Uncle Joe and experienced him directly or you lived 50 years in the USSR!
@excellentcomment
@excellentcomment 9 ай бұрын
So well said. Kotkin's erudition is matched only by his light touch and charming clarity. And humor. And humility. ❤
@henryrusch9475
@henryrusch9475 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely remarkable. Without doubt, Stephen Kotkin is one the great historians of our, perhaps all, times because of his devotion to archival sources, his resistance to second hand information, and therefore his determination to analyze history from all sides and come forward to wherever the truth, as he knows it at that moment, may lead. Thank you for making this talk, and many others, available on You Tube.
@brianrajala7671
@brianrajala7671 6 ай бұрын
Listening to Stephen Kotkin is a great way to understanding the politics of the world we live in!
@politichia6820
@politichia6820 11 күн бұрын
True as long as u understand, when the Germans do it is called strategy, when Stalin does it is called building a dictatorship. 🤣
@grumpyoldman8661
@grumpyoldman8661 3 жыл бұрын
A.J.P. Taylor (the great British historian) wrote that "the best history is when the reader turns the pages wanting to know what happens next". Stephen Kotkin easily meets that criteria. (UK)
@ileanarollason6401
@ileanarollason6401 Жыл бұрын
AJP Taylor was a great historian indeed, Kotkin is NOT.
@amcespana2150
@amcespana2150 Жыл бұрын
British historian is an oxymoron, better say British forger, British mercenary or British pirate
@reunaherra
@reunaherra Жыл бұрын
​@@ileanarollason6401why so?
@johnniebee4328
@johnniebee4328 8 жыл бұрын
he's got a good sense of humor, refreshing to see in this type of lecture
@TalkernateHistory
@TalkernateHistory 6 жыл бұрын
He's a lot more funny and charming than I would have expected. I really really like the way he speaks
@dimitriosfromgreece4227
@dimitriosfromgreece4227 5 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes ❤ love from Sweden
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 5 жыл бұрын
Pity he’s done good work debunking certain anti Stalin myths then goes ahead and lies to an audience with the Stalin walking lie!
@vincesoder3284
@vincesoder3284 4 жыл бұрын
Bookstore Joe Pesci
@januszmlynarcz3348
@januszmlynarcz3348 4 жыл бұрын
Talkernate History wrrefer
@bikeandsee1647
@bikeandsee1647 4 жыл бұрын
Yeap, certainly Mr Kotkin is a sophisticated advocate of Imperialism, but only in his manners. Yet his basic assertion that Stalin equals Communism, or Communism is Stalin, is not new at all, is the most banal one, it is almost a pity for his monumental effort. Up to a point Mr Kotkin is right, but only up to a point. Certainly Stalin was a Bolshevik and as such his violent modus operandi falls within this parameter. Indeed Stalin answered to the needs of the Soviet Revolution, but it is a mistake to assume that Stalin's bloody behavior was the only possible one in front of the Revolution problems. This mistake is called "fatalism", a sort of unilateral historical determinism by which history must follow only one specific path.
@paulleverton9569
@paulleverton9569 2 жыл бұрын
This guy's hilarious. I don't know how his students listen to his lectures without cracking up.
@svendbosanvovski4241
@svendbosanvovski4241 5 жыл бұрын
Its not just a monumental work, but certainly a candidate for the best biography ever written and we are only now at volume 2. He brilliantly contextualises Stalin, acknowledging his achievements and his frightening brutality. Waiting for volume 3 is like waiting for the next season of Game of Thrones. It's utterly enthralling.
@fizywig
@fizywig 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, historians who have checked his sources find it to be a rather poor work
@jaik195701
@jaik195701 4 жыл бұрын
@@fizywig "historians" please cite
@didymussumydid9726
@didymussumydid9726 4 жыл бұрын
@Larson Oppenheimer lmao, Grover "In forty years of research I haven't found evidence of a single crime committed by Stalin" Furr
@Stewiehleba
@Stewiehleba 4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Grover Furr.
@Stewiehleba
@Stewiehleba 4 жыл бұрын
@@didymussumydid9726 Do you care to actually refute the evidence Furr produces, or are you just bullshitting?
@jetpromys
@jetpromys 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a great lecture series, I've watched it several times. As many have said, I love Kotkin's humor and insights.
@garretttedeman
@garretttedeman 6 жыл бұрын
Very good stuff. A lot of background & context on important history.
@rogerwilco4397
@rogerwilco4397 2 жыл бұрын
Kotkin knows his stuff. He also does the best Joe Pesci impression this side of Jim Bruer.
@AvenRadcliffe
@AvenRadcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@MarxinRios
@MarxinRios Жыл бұрын
Omg ur right
@rollo131
@rollo131 2 жыл бұрын
I think of Breaking Bad in connection with Stalin. Was Walter White always fated to become a mendacious, power mad killer? There are hints throughout the show that he had a difficult childhood, that he holds deep resentments against certain people from his early life, but in the end that was not the explanation. It was the business of creating and sustaining a meth empire that made it necessary to rule with an iron fist, to manipulate people, to be ruthless, to eliminate any obstacles in the way. So it is, at Kotkin says, with Stalin. It wasn’t the beatings he received from his father or any other singular episode that set him on the path to becoming a murderous tyrant. It was the circumstances involved in running a regime, a dictatorship, a communist revolution in Russia of the early twentieth century, that brought it out of him.
@sillygoose9791
@sillygoose9791 Жыл бұрын
Idealism and opportunism are handmaidens when it comes to putting someone on a path. The way the world is will change how you see the world and vica versa. Also; the First World War was Walter getting cancer, the Civil War is Walt meeting and fighting Tuco, the accumulation of power as General Secretary was Walt working with Gus, the exile of Trotsky is the death of Gus, the killing of Mike and his men in the prison was collectivization/ great terror. Hell, they both even fight Nazis at the end. It's comforting to find another Breaking Bad/ Soviet history fan in the wild, a niche crossover to be sure.
@rollo131
@rollo131 Жыл бұрын
@@sillygoose9791 And Stephen Kotkin is Vince Gilligan.
@1080lights
@1080lights Жыл бұрын
That's a specious comparison. The show makes it pretty clear that Walter's drive comes quite clearly from his feeling that he was a brilliant man destined for great things and the world took it from him.
@DavidErdody
@DavidErdody 7 жыл бұрын
This video introduced me to Kotkin. Thank you P&P!
@ileanarollason6401
@ileanarollason6401 4 жыл бұрын
Don't let yourself captured by Kotkin's toxic propaganda.
@chantillylee
@chantillylee 2 жыл бұрын
I have just discovered Professor Kotkin, wonderful! My new favorite.
@jcrios1917
@jcrios1917 5 жыл бұрын
"Mao basically spits in Khrushchev's face". Professor Kotkin
@grumpyoldman8661
@grumpyoldman8661 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great historian. (UK)
@Ronbo710
@Ronbo710 5 жыл бұрын
Amen Sir. His books are incredible too. They are just as captivating as his lectures.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm he claims Stalin isn’t on camera walking amongst other lies he spews
@alcoholfree6381
@alcoholfree6381 2 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is amazing! I’m not in his league but as a person takes a subject and just studies the heck out of it, such as he has done, so many insights become available. Kotkin does it over and over; the true fruits of scholarship. I’ve watched this several times and have started reading his first volume on Stalin. It’s a lot of fun!
@analitykiemzycia5490
@analitykiemzycia5490 4 жыл бұрын
Prof. Kotkin is not only a great author. He's the best expert on Stalin. besides that, as seen here, he's a versatile guy with humour. We are very lucky to have him. He's world class. He is a giant amongst men.
@piushalg8175
@piushalg8175 4 жыл бұрын
He keeps telling the audience what it doesn't really want to hear about Stalin. It's amazing.
@crazymulgogi
@crazymulgogi 4 жыл бұрын
And what is it that they don't want to hear?
@piushalg8175
@piushalg8175 4 жыл бұрын
@@crazymulgogi That he became the man he was out of his own decisions and that he performed his deeds because of the convictions he chose, and not because of his upbringing etc.
@thomasjorge4734
@thomasjorge4734 Жыл бұрын
Imagine, getting into a NYC taxi-cab and have the driver start talking like this? The only response: Take me to L.A.
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
I heard a scholar say once, with regards to Saddam Hussein, "Is Iraq the way it is because of Saddam, or is Saddam the way he is because of Iraq?" I think one could ask the same thing about Russia and Stalin.
@unknowable2432
@unknowable2432 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an apologist.
@frod043
@frod043 5 жыл бұрын
would have liked to have been in his classes when he was teaching
@martinskyttefernandes5882
@martinskyttefernandes5882 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest historian and one of the most important scientists of our time. No less, Maybe more. Kotkin is a Voice of critical reason THAT remins U.S. ALL THAT ALL american arent hating Russia.
@fja4301
@fja4301 3 жыл бұрын
wow SK is so very good a genius at writing and presenting. At first I thought his voice was hard to listen to but soon i could not stop listening to him. a truly amazing historian that should be in Bidnes cabinet or at least on Biden's speed dial
@StellarFella
@StellarFella 5 жыл бұрын
His second volume is now available. Great reflective and eloquent intellect.
@nationradical
@nationradical 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the third!
@TawsifEC
@TawsifEC 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely adding these books to my wish list.
@ChrisMartin-tk4dh
@ChrisMartin-tk4dh 6 жыл бұрын
I'm laughing at all his jokes and the audience looks like they are there and against their will and they find him insufferable.
@rainblaze.
@rainblaze. 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Martin What? ..You find him funny? What the *FCK* !! do you find so fckn funny about him?? ... what? tell me ? does he amoose you?
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 5 жыл бұрын
@@rainblaze. your grammar sure amuses me...
@rainblaze.
@rainblaze. 5 жыл бұрын
movement2contact so you didn't get the refrence?.... Fairnuff
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 5 жыл бұрын
@@rainblaze. No. tell me ?
@rainblaze.
@rainblaze. 5 жыл бұрын
movement2contact the "joke" was. Kotkin sounds exactly like joe pesci whose most famous for the "you find me funny"? rotine he does in the film "goodfellows". But i guess if you have to explain it. It loses its effect
@ryanphillips4218
@ryanphillips4218 9 ай бұрын
I REALLY want a round table at the Hoover Institute, moderated by Peter Robinson of course, with him, Dikotter, VDH, and Naimark!!!!
@ingenuity168
@ingenuity168 5 жыл бұрын
To be great, one has to be obsessed and passionate .
@IskalkaQuest2010
@IskalkaQuest2010 6 жыл бұрын
So important to have a book based on actual documents.
@ileanarollason6401
@ileanarollason6401 4 жыл бұрын
There are books based on documents (UCLA), even though Kotkin is shamessly manipulating and the facts and their causes and consequences. He shamelesslessy intoxicates.
@maximusstirnimus5210
@maximusstirnimus5210 4 жыл бұрын
@@ileanarollason6401 Intoxicates?
@ileanarollason6401
@ileanarollason6401 4 жыл бұрын
@@maximusstirnimus5210 YOU are intoxicated & lack a minimum of critical spirit & readings. Contrary to Kotkin the impostor, I have informed myself. Conclusions : 1. Khrouschev is the author of "Stalin's" crimes în Ukraine. Read Khrouschev's Memories, where is very proud of his ""exploits" : put of 38 members of the Central Comittee in Ukraina at Khrouschev's arrival there, 37 were dead aflter a year. As to the "goulags": read about innumerable wars between Poland (or the Republic of the 2 Nations, Poland + today's Lituania) & rhe rest of the Eastern Europe & Russia. Horrible relationships between Poland -USSR between WW1- WW2. Hardly restaured in 1919, Poland was at war with Russia. The Siberian gulags being full of Prometheist indoctrinated Polish officers. I SO INCITE YOU READING ABOUT PROMETHEISM before starting blaming Russia or Stalin. Leaving alone the fact that the goulags were VILLAGES. Populated for centuries by the local tribes & nations. Pretending that living in a POPULATED VILLAGE among THE LOCAL PEOPLE was a "purge" = one of the worst intoxications in the world history. Author(s): Robert Conquest (who did not speak Russian, did not read any document, admitted being told fairy tales by immigrants and lately recognized his exagerations) or Anna Appelbaum, Sikorski's wife. If you do not know who Sikorski is, I urge you read about PROMETHEISM, which is as horrible as nazism.
@unknowable2432
@unknowable2432 3 жыл бұрын
@@ileanarollason6401 seek help. Your "research methods" and "facts" are deeply flawed. Leaving you with absurd conclusions.
@ileanarollason6401
@ileanarollason6401 2 жыл бұрын
Kotkin INVENTS. Documents DO NOT exist, for him. Only Conquest, an excellent US propagandist, does. Kotkin being nothing else but a CIA agent. If you want real historians referring to real documents, read the UCLA sovietologists (the only ones who read Russian & have studied Russian & Soviet archives), not infamous Conquest or Kotkin.
@iansepion7131
@iansepion7131 5 ай бұрын
Wow!! Impressive! I've got to read this guy''s book
@zaffarjawaid2033
@zaffarjawaid2033 Жыл бұрын
Kotkin is brilliant in simplifying the complex phenomenon of WW2, cold war, totalitarian USSR, and a gold standard portrait and power of dictator Joseph Stalin.
@sjr7822
@sjr7822 5 ай бұрын
Scott Ritter recently recommended the book, so I did YT search, ended up here. .
@jeffreysilverman3633
@jeffreysilverman3633 Жыл бұрын
Kotkin is the Master Source for anything Stalin related!
@TBP1212
@TBP1212 8 жыл бұрын
44:10 and now, a question from Microsoft Sam
@TheFrankHuda
@TheFrankHuda 5 жыл бұрын
He's married to Siri and has a daughter, Alexa.
@nirajathawale5000
@nirajathawale5000 3 жыл бұрын
😹😹😹😹 I lmaoo 🤣
@anng.4542
@anng.4542 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this presentation. I have just discovered Dr Kotkin, thanks to the Hoover Institution channel, but was looking for a talk on the early part of Stalin's life. I really enjoyed how much time was set aside for questions, and especially how Dr Kotkin addressed the young audience member who believes that Stalin's aims and projects were merely about "social control", but don't represent "real communism". Amazing how long the dream of the perfect society persists, even in those far too young to remember the terrifying realities of the USSR.
@takerdust
@takerdust 6 жыл бұрын
Same. Hoover Institute also introduced Kotkin to me.
@mikemurray2027
@mikemurray2027 4 жыл бұрын
It is the terrifying realities of our current society that gives hope to each new generation that something better can be built.
@temax
@temax 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Kotkin is amazing. Finally nuance applied to Soviet Union.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 5 жыл бұрын
And yet he still gets a lot wrong and still felt the need to lie
@06alepea1
@06alepea1 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnKobaRuddy what did he lie about?
@fuckfannyfiddlefart
@fuckfannyfiddlefart 4 жыл бұрын
It's very hard with the anti free speech McCarthyism, meanwhile Americans remember JFK fondly even thought he nearly killed us all for political advantage and we are ONLY ALIVE TODAY because of the Soviets!
@kreek22
@kreek22 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuckfannyfiddlefart The USSR sucked so bad it killed itself in despair.
@kreek22
@kreek22 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnKobaRuddy He exaggerated the problems of the Czarist regime.
@Jere616
@Jere616 9 жыл бұрын
fascinating presentation
@sillygoose9791
@sillygoose9791 Жыл бұрын
Stalin, for all his ends justifying the means, in his drive for eventual communism, and his clear sociopathy, had to have felt his sins crawling on his back. If not the sins on his back, the feeling that no one really trusted him. He held life and death power in his hands, and showed that he didn't care if that power slipped and others paid the price. Everyone had to know the cost collectivization took. No one was left unscathed. 60 - 80% of the Soviet Union starved to death or near death. Kotkin in part 2 argues that the terror was used to break his inner circle, reduce them to minions. It drove one to suicide at least. Was it that Stalin saw the breaking power of the famine, an unintended side effect of collectivization, and seek to purposefully put the boot down? Stomp on a neck long enough, you're thanked for eventually letting them breathe. I think the Terror was a deliberate act to enslave Eurasia once and for all, a lesson Stalin learned from his experiments with his power. In the book as well, Stalin, as recorded by his daughter's nanny, spoke at least twice on the 'need of a Tsar' in Russia. Stalin, in the state atheist Soviet Union, could not rule by the divine right of kings, but could forge his own divinity through lead and leather. Who can argue with the man who can, and probably will, have your whole village deported to concentration camps in Siberia for being Kulak henchmen? And do it by the stroke of not a pen, but a simple colored pencil.
@george1la
@george1la 8 ай бұрын
He never misses a stroke. Unlike most, he has done the hard work and it shows. Read his two volumes on Stalin and you will understand from the beginning it is serious and no funny business.
@excellentcomment
@excellentcomment 9 ай бұрын
Only 177k views?! And I've watched this one 150k times myself. ❤
@6663000
@6663000 2 жыл бұрын
Here on KZbin I've watched Stephen Kotkin give about ten different versions of these presentations about his books and they're always great. 36:45 This guy has been in attendance for almost all of them and he always asks questions. Surely Kotkin must recognize him each time, I wonder why he doesn't address it? Does anyone know who he is?
@mac2105
@mac2105 Жыл бұрын
I just noticed what "wrap your head around" means literally and I'm shocked
@DanielPlainsight
@DanielPlainsight 3 жыл бұрын
Joe pesci's younger brother made the right choice leaving the mob to start giving lectures about stalin.
@misanthropyunhinged
@misanthropyunhinged 2 жыл бұрын
Stalin was based volume 1
@kingbee1971
@kingbee1971 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what or who caused Stalin to turn away from serving God in his youth to becoming a revolutionary for 20 years before 1917. Stalin is a fascinating villain. Kotkin's best work.
@sillygoose9791
@sillygoose9791 Жыл бұрын
Look at the world around him. You have the church being a pillar of the regime that keeps down his nationality and rights as a human being. The seminary where Stalin sang and studied, also forbade him from speaking Georgian, in Georgia. He finds Darwin, who offers a different explanation for how the world came to be; and Marx, who offered to the poor toiling masses a different way in world the world could be. Stalin the young idealist would surely grasp these ideas more tightly than the totem that implored him to simply maintain tradition and abide his caste and station. Someone Stalin got it into his head that if he threw enough bodies at Russia social justice would spring forth. A disgusting extension of the ends justifying the means. Marxism offered a way out. While it turned out to be more an opiate of the masses than what Marx tried to call out with such a phrase, communism is a pipe dream a lot of disenfranchised people still throw the Bible out for, and for less noble reasons.
@Achxlx
@Achxlx Жыл бұрын
@@sillygoose9791 Good answer.
@amber40494
@amber40494 2 жыл бұрын
I've got goosebumps from kotkins talk!
@thehealthychefri
@thehealthychefri Жыл бұрын
Stalin the son of a cobbler goes on to defeat the Nazis and becomes the winner of WW2!
@Fonzwav
@Fonzwav Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@soupycask
@soupycask Ай бұрын
Wow, did not expect him to sound like that!
@pineapplesandthegovernment6522
@pineapplesandthegovernment6522 Жыл бұрын
So great to hear a smart guy dismantle the 'he had a difficult childhood' line. It's usually lazy thinking even to explain normal people. To explain exceptional people, it's just embarrassing.
@Ronbo710
@Ronbo710 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a professor that *KNOWS* the truth about communism .
@barumbadum
@barumbadum 2 жыл бұрын
I need to read these books...asap
@brokenocean4465
@brokenocean4465 2 жыл бұрын
that was awesome
@enriquepuerto7146
@enriquepuerto7146 Жыл бұрын
My grandad fought in the Spanish civil war and apparently the Russian equipment was faulty AF. Most of the guns didn’t fire, so if that’s “top” Russian technology then what does their average stuff looks like.
@alvarogines6788
@alvarogines6788 6 жыл бұрын
Joe pesci suddenly knows about russia
@malvolio01
@malvolio01 6 жыл бұрын
I've said it before... he's an articulate Joe Pesci.
@electricdreams8237
@electricdreams8237 5 жыл бұрын
Just don't be late with getting his drinks...
@malvolio01
@malvolio01 5 жыл бұрын
Electric Dreams and don’t laugh at his jokes.
@sld1776
@sld1776 5 жыл бұрын
He has lost a lot of weight. Doesn't look like Joe Pesci anymore.
@shaunlanighan813
@shaunlanighan813 3 жыл бұрын
I now see Stalin in four dimensions
@antoinelavoisier9784
@antoinelavoisier9784 Жыл бұрын
Sad that such lectures do not attract young people
@hardheadjarhead
@hardheadjarhead 2 жыл бұрын
The book is very readable. I’m enjoying it!
@davidbolen8982
@davidbolen8982 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, dude rocks
@diskette
@diskette 4 жыл бұрын
I love your bookstore!
@kingcobra7565
@kingcobra7565 2 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. Thank you Professor Kotkin.
@fanwang6255
@fanwang6255 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing lecture.
@chefantoniogiovanni209
@chefantoniogiovanni209 5 жыл бұрын
Tough crowd
@Shapeguydude
@Shapeguydude 5 жыл бұрын
The parental abuse part is a great bit
@BunnyMan456
@BunnyMan456 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Rupert Pupkin wrote books.
@corn_pop6082
@corn_pop6082 4 жыл бұрын
I went right into the second volume in early Dec. 2019. Will hit that first volume. But this second volume is fascinating. I was a bit disappointed in the collectivization in that the author didn't really portray the horror from the peasant view, but my goodness, when he gets into the Great Terror, the book is mesmerizing. Stalin would invite the next high official to be arrested and executed, often handing him a high medal, a new dacha and share a fantastic meal, together with the officials who had followed Stalin's orders to build a case against him. Just getting into the third part of the Hitler-Stalin duet. The detail is intense but wonderful. Get these books if Russian history or the evil of Stalin fascinate you.
@Stewiehleba
@Stewiehleba 4 жыл бұрын
Or get Grover Furr's refutation of those books if you actually care about the real history.
@jeffreysteelman8583
@jeffreysteelman8583 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stewiehleba what is this that you speak of?
@Stewiehleba
@Stewiehleba 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreysteelman8583 kind of obvious.
@sadhusadhu4237
@sadhusadhu4237 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your dedications to history of the world and the political processes or styles of influence and rules. Your talks have taught me so much. I like to hear your opinion on “ can American resist the lure of totalitarian style governing now that it has the technical capacity to rule it’s people, namely AI and mass surveillance apparatus
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
Even if we're being surveilled, what would the folks doing the suveilling do with what they see? Does our Anglo-English legal system, and traditions have any effect? You and I are willingly engaging in the surveillance apparatus (KZbin, Facebook, etc.?). The Russian tradition and the American tradition are very different. Does this matter?
@mortimerbeetrootplimpton2985
@mortimerbeetrootplimpton2985 4 ай бұрын
When he uses the expression, “… the tragedy of the Left”, you can feel the air go out of the room.
@Drunkwithsuccess
@Drunkwithsuccess 2 жыл бұрын
Totally, same with Montefiore and Brent. They all agree these Soviet monsters were not madmen but total loyalists to the cause to monopoly of the Soviet state.
@yaboydolphin
@yaboydolphin 6 ай бұрын
why is the audience looking like they don't know where they are. this guy is hilarious
@darrellroberson4401
@darrellroberson4401 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE CONSULT WITH MR. GERALD HOME
@Unknown-th8hx
@Unknown-th8hx 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this is good
@elgatopage
@elgatopage 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Pesci is my favorite historian
@gracewoodard9134
@gracewoodard9134 2 жыл бұрын
Good one
@arthurselikoff5653
@arthurselikoff5653 9 жыл бұрын
Some consider trying to explain an evil person as being an apologist for him. Kotkin, however, calls collectivization the great crime with millions of deaths. Also, this is the first volume. From what I've heard Kotkin say, he does not credit Stalin with any ideological purpose in the terror of the 1930s, which is in the next book.
@synon9m
@synon9m 5 жыл бұрын
Did you listen to this presentation? Stalin did indeed have an ideological purpose.
@briteness
@briteness 4 жыл бұрын
@@synon9m , Kotkin does not discuss Stalin's massive purges of the 30s here. It is, in fact, Kotkin's position that these purges are very difficult to understand, even within Stalin's ideological framework. An interview he did at the Hoover Institution at Stanford, which can be found on youtube, goes into this at length, although I have not read Volume 2 myself yet. Perhaps this could be seen as a weak point in Kotkin's view that Stalin, far from being free of ideology-free in practice, was largely driven by his idealistic Marxist ideology. In any event, it at least seems like Kotkin is honest, not trying to force his predetermined positions onto the evidence.
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 4 жыл бұрын
Yum's can't wait!
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 4 жыл бұрын
@@briteness The Great Terror really is hard to explain, and I don't believe any historian has explained it satisfactorily.
@mikemurray2027
@mikemurray2027 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a personal dictatorship. It was, at least in the minds of the communists, a 'dictatorship of the proletariat'. Which come from Marx.
@kreek22
@kreek22 3 жыл бұрын
"the minds of the communists"? No such thing.
@mikemurray2027
@mikemurray2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@kreek22 this is the problem with anti-communist 'historians'. They have no sense of historical objectivity, just a keen desire to condemn. It's fairly obvious why this aspect of history attracts liars and extremists, and also why people like Kotkin do so much to please them.
@veeekin.996casterman9
@veeekin.996casterman9 2 жыл бұрын
lol ! I have the Rodin book that is over his right shoulder.
@ArendJanV
@ArendJanV 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Pesci has become a professor? Great talk!
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 8 күн бұрын
2:26 Start here.
@rusoviettovarich9221
@rusoviettovarich9221 20 күн бұрын
Remarkable intellect and enjoyable. I wonder though what made Stalin continue to 'poke the German eagle' in the eye in November 1940 i.e. Molotov's outrageous demands given to von Ribbentrop and Hitler in Berlin? Yes Stalin held all the assets Hitler needed to continue to wage war and all knew the 'pact' would eventually lead to war 'but' those demands and the follow-on equally blunt demand for a German response less than a week later was the tipping point to move Hitler to move to attack in 1941. Stalin had to know this was dangerous on his part that or he was, as Suvorov contends, planning his own pre-emptive strike himself. It seems the latter was the reality
@lallen4999
@lallen4999 4 жыл бұрын
He's got a Slavic accent.He is not originally from US
@zaq1zaq2zaq3
@zaq1zaq2zaq3 4 жыл бұрын
Simply sounds like he's from New York.
@MrChet407
@MrChet407 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about Kotkin is that he doesn't give off a prick vibe.
@AJayQDR
@AJayQDR 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, Joe Pesci is talking over an hour and not even one swearing.
@laza6141
@laza6141 3 жыл бұрын
he's a funny guy.
@BronzeBullBalls
@BronzeBullBalls 3 жыл бұрын
'Now go home and get your fucking paint brushes!.' Stalin to Hitler in 1943
@laza6141
@laza6141 3 жыл бұрын
@@BronzeBullBalls Hitler never had the making of the varsity dictator.
@psSubstratum
@psSubstratum 3 жыл бұрын
Is he there to fucking amuse you??
@unknowable2432
@unknowable2432 3 жыл бұрын
@@laza6141 too many drugs.
@morgan8599
@morgan8599 2 жыл бұрын
"...Are we done?" -- great ending 🤣 Listen, the guy has shit to do, get out of his way.
@mirrorblue100
@mirrorblue100 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation - thanks.
@roc7880
@roc7880 4 жыл бұрын
I absorb every of his words. But half of the audience looks like have been dragged by the other half to this lecture.
@ldy2182
@ldy2182 4 жыл бұрын
P&P is a left cultural institution in DC. so are its audiences. I doubt they would invite independent thinkers like Dr. Kotkin nowadays. Five years ago they were more tolerant.
@reclearning558
@reclearning558 4 жыл бұрын
This is great
@Gianniutah
@Gianniutah 9 ай бұрын
Finish volume 3!!!
@dramatic_escape
@dramatic_escape 4 жыл бұрын
27:47 "What they do say, however, is 'We can't do it. We can't win. We can't succeed. We'll ruin everything. We'll destroy everything...'" "so Stalin does it anyway..."
@fuckfannyfiddlefart
@fuckfannyfiddlefart 4 жыл бұрын
Cowards hate effort!
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuckfannyfiddlefart that's why I call them "Republican'ts"
@rachelshengjie7847
@rachelshengjie7847 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive for Stalin push to collective farm.That’s the same as Peter the Great built the Petersburg
@akashs8819
@akashs8819 2 жыл бұрын
This was not germany, it EU vs ussr and EU got hammered in the war. EU population is four times the russian population.
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 2 жыл бұрын
Stalin was only Stalin because civilians did without asking questions. Same for Hitler. Neither would have been either without the participation of the people.
@sld1776
@sld1776 5 жыл бұрын
That was pretty funny. What's wrong with the audience?
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how? Like a clown, like he makes you laugh?
@sld1776
@sld1776 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgornall5731 Ha! Took me a second to get the joke. I hated that movie as much as most other guys loved it.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 4 жыл бұрын
@@sld1776 Me too. But we seem to get our enduring tropes from bad movies.
@nataliatarnovsky6997
@nataliatarnovsky6997 5 жыл бұрын
Gran escritor!!!!🤝❤🖤❤
@unknowable2432
@unknowable2432 3 жыл бұрын
I always love when amateurs in the audience believe they know more than the historian. I'm not saying historians infallible. But it's absurd to be so close minded
@michaeltoubro5367
@michaeltoubro5367 8 жыл бұрын
Highly interesting. A nuanced but in no ways apologetic perspective on that terrible old swine Stalin.
@ninomalekovic4911
@ninomalekovic4911 7 жыл бұрын
It's a bit more apologetic than most earlier accounts, wouldn't you say?
@lonewolf115
@lonewolf115 7 жыл бұрын
Nino M, what a void and uninteresting question. I don't think you understand the meaning of apologetic.
@Gooseplan
@Gooseplan 6 жыл бұрын
Nino Malekovic not portraying him as an absolute power hungry monster worse than Hitler =\= apologetic
@listener523
@listener523 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gooseplan That's because he was worse than a power hungry monster. He was a devout Marxist.
@robertmorency6335
@robertmorency6335 5 жыл бұрын
That terrible old swine broke Hitler and his Werhmact's back. (with considerable help from General Winter). The World owes him a measure of thanks for that, but few will ever admit to that.
@kazkk2321
@kazkk2321 3 ай бұрын
Stalin was both right and wrong. He was wrong so far as the reduction of agricultural output and the destabilizing of the country. Yet paradoxically, without his forced industrialization modern Russia would not have been born.
@dimitriosfromgreece4227
@dimitriosfromgreece4227 5 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOU ❤
@alexander3543
@alexander3543 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot about Stalin being a poet and his poems being published in Georgian ABCs to this day, and about his personal library in Kremlin consisting of 50,000 volumes
@StephenPribut
@StephenPribut 2 жыл бұрын
His poems and publication are first mentioned on page 33 of the first volume which runs to nearly 950 pages.
@johnnyscifi
@johnnyscifi 7 жыл бұрын
You sure Menzhinsky wasnt Felix Dzherzhinsky?
@AdamIndikt
@AdamIndikt 5 жыл бұрын
He succeeded Dzerzhinsky, who founded the tcheka and OGPU. Dzerzhinsky died in 1926.
@jacksonlamme
@jacksonlamme 4 жыл бұрын
at 47:10 that was pretty funny.
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