The wrist cheat that creates strong, EVEN doubles (2/3)

[@gregshurtz6169]

I have really bad neuropathy in my hands from diabetes and I'm having a very hard time trying to develop hand and finger techniques wondering if you've ever dealt with anyone who has numb hands I'm 68 years old and just decided to start playing because I can't play guitar anymore thanks again for what you do

[@tomjones2348]

Excellent lesson! Exactly what both my wife and I needed. Working on it now. Thank you.

[@owenbrown47]

Hello Stephen - I have improved my doubles a lot but I am at the point you are talking about. I have hit the roadblock at around 80 to 100 bpm. I had heard reference to "wrists again" but did know what it meant. I think this is part of what I was needing to further improve my doubles. I will be prcticing these steps and look forward to step 3 in a week or so. Owen

[@user-op5ul1iy2n]

Basically The 3/3 lesson is this: To Improve Diddles or Doubles: 3 Step: -Correct Fulcrum -Loosen up ur grip -Let the Stick Rebound (Lower Tempos) -Application of Wrist (Mid Tempos) -Application of Fingers (Higher Tempos

[@00wn]

My biggest struggle right now is staying loose at fast tempos.

[@00p13p]

Same. It's been 10 months how did you overcome that?

[@00wn]

@@00p13p It's still a challenge. A death grip on the sticks happens the faster I move around the kit. It's not as bad as it once was, which leads me to believe that practicing and playing have a lot to do with it. Keep hittin' things with your sticks, my friend. It will come.

[@00p13p]

@@00wn noted. Practice makes perfect after all. We got this!

[@user-op5ul1iy2n]

Same😢

[@TheIronSavior]

It's impressive that Stephen can reproduce errors of inexperienced players so well.

[@ivangerchunoff7995]

Thaks for the explanation of the middle finger in the German grip. I`ve starting to feel pain in my hand

[@traciesponseller1393]

When I try to get faster on doubles I begin engaging my shoulder and forcing the stick to go faster. I struggle relaxing and let the sticks go. Looking for a roll, not there yet. Love your lessons!!

[@JDRELGOR]

Great videos and tips thanks, I've been using a cushion to practice on to hopefully get control of the stick.

[@michaelsteven5558]

All right, you asked, "what is still frustrating you." Well, I am still at about 80bpm (eighth notes) and trying to get the loose grip technique to smooth out. My sticks continue to slip, and it is awkward holding my hands at an angle so the stick does not contact my palm and throw off the beat, yet keep my hands high enough to prevent the stick from hitting my thigh on the rebound and throwing off the beat. I do well enough while using just one hand, but when I add the other is when it gets hard to keep my hands in position. That is also when my wrists start flexing with the motion rather than just relying on the rebound. More practice maybe? I hope so, but I am way behind the class right now.

[@samuelshafa1793]

I think between 110-120 BPM 16th doubles is my current challenge. My coordination falls apart within this range. I've known 110 to be a big challenge before now, but I know with more practice it's gonna get more natural for me

[@BusaLad]

My weak left hand has trouble coming in the center of pad and bouncing off to the left. I can stay in time but the stick isn't going straight up and down. Great teaching by the way.

[@billbigler1366]

Stephen very nice lesson. My challenge is really a conundrum. And it comes from Tony Williams. In a video he did in the 1990s he said, as you do, that every note in doubles should be "intentional". Especially doubles on the toms. For him he held the sticks way down the shaft and the grip was controlled by the ring finger and pinky! When he did this his palms became to be facing down. The power comes from the wrists with almost no rebound. This does work but takes a lot of reframing practice. Do you know this method and if so what is your opinion of it? Thanks much. Bill.

[@superatech]

So the 3 videos are "The Catch: The Invisible..." "The Wrist Cheat" and what is the 3rd video? Thank you.

[@TheJerryherry]

Yes? Wich is the third video?

[@jeremyboesmans]

Hi Stephen, To me is switching from wrist Like up to 110 -120 to fingers, I don't seem to get to that transition yet, but I'm working on them with your tutorials. Thank you

[@mertaw5]

I’m definitely struggling here. It’s not clicking on how to use wrists and rebound. I can use either/or with wrists being way slower. And any kind of towel just kills it all. I can only use wrists with a towel, and they are slow.

[@erroltrepanier8177]

2.5 months in my drum journey nothing but sticks and a Evans real feel pad and stand (kit is ordered but Aug delivery date😢) so I just keep pad practicing left hand is real weak and un coordinated singles are coming along as well as the paradiddle but doubles 🤦🏻‍♂️ think I am watching to many videos am going to start focusing on your three part series more really need to start a better practice routine

[@sydsM3]

Just over 3 months into my drum lessons and my biggest challenge is my left hand. I have to use more force with my left hand and I still can’t get the stick to bounce as high, as even, and as easily as I can with my right hand. That’s been my struggle with all my rudiments.

[@jimmyreynolds5462]

My biggest challenge is definitely passing the 120BPM mark without getting sloppy. Up to that point I can keep it pretty tight and each note well defined but after that, not so much. I need my 16th notes to be cleaner and able to hear each note and not have it all mush together.

[@golflre7179]

Thx! Good lesson 👍

[@davidheath9913]

As I learnt to play using traditional grip and I am now the wrong side of 70, is it too late to re-train to play matched grip? Love the tips by the way! Dave North Devon UK

[@alvarovargas4231]

My biggest challenge is to do rolls from singles to doubles even back to back

[@muzzybeat]

So you are suggesting to shift the fulcrum-point of our grip mid-stroke? How does that work?

[@drumsrlife71418]

Great lesson, thank you. My biggest challenge on doubles is definitely losing grip position at higher speeds. I have ordered a pair of Promark Activegrip Rebound 5B stix. Definitely helps with doubles, as the weight of the stick is more to end of stick and rebound happens without thinking or cheating with the wrist. I dont know, maybe you can comment on this version if it is one you recommend? Thanks.

[@kevinlander46]

after over 2 years my forearms still start to stiffen up and my left hand still just doe's not work once this happens, although i am improving but it is getting some what tedious now, thinking of giving up and taking up knitting! LOL, but i have spent too much on drumming and that is' i suppose what stops me from giving up, plus i enjoying playing on the drums oh well maybe one day.

[@ivanalt]

my stick slips out lol. The accompanying fingers do not use force (i think) so im not sure if its actually wrist

[@wyattstrickland4348]

My biggest problem is caveman gripping and not using that hinge motion. I didn’t notice until you recommended recording myself in another video 😂

[@pushkinchakraborty665]

If yes, how i do it?? Because its too light.

[@craigsmith6045]

Nice Ks I hate doubles hope this lesson helps

[@pushkinchakraborty665]

Hello, Can i perform gigs with alesis nitro mesh kit???

[@robertteresi9689]

Working hard on left hand

[@mrrickrain]

Thank you kindly -

[@zachary813]

So, part 1 is rebound only; and now part 2 is wrists. So with wrists it looks like two single strokes instead of two for one with rebound.

[@SuperMikedeez]

I thought he said “Eliminate your weekend in 3 easy steps”. Lol

[@RhinoMaster-xf6ko]

Do you recommend going on the kit before you get the technique down or wait so you don't get used to playing wrong?

[@GalaxyCurse]

So, next week is the Swedish Gravity Blast? ;)

[@ultrablue7477]

This reminds me of shoes made in Bolivia

[@lesterbillings9671]

Keeping the stick from walking 😢

[@oOrbitZz]

my left is weak so they are not as consistent as my right

[@golflre7179]

My challenge - weak hand, which is right.

[@robertteresi9689]

Intermediate. Doubles At 120 bpm, my brain loses track with my hands, while counting 16th notes

[@rondeangelis7384]

Hi Steve good video. But, what you are demonstrating is not cheating with wrists. Exactly what Tony Williams and others executed for many years. ✌️

[@triggertime90]

Left hand control. I am a righty.

[@MartinHenne]

Asking for comments but never answering them is one good way to get rid of followers - just saying......

[@matthewbonner2261]

You have so many good tips , but DAMN you talk talk talk talk TALK !!! PLEASE …..get on with it and stop explaining your explaining .