It dont matter none, just the way Kilbey expresses it is gold 😂
@irieploog579Ай бұрын
“You see something you like you take it”
@dommccaffry38027 ай бұрын
Steve kilbey is hard work
@sampledude88467 ай бұрын
This guy is brilliant!
@Abandoned_Brane9 ай бұрын
Steve kilbey will always be cool.
@revelogic9 ай бұрын
Steve really needs to do a podcast
@jbb4839 ай бұрын
f that. Enough with the podcast bs already.
@kelvincanda66179 ай бұрын
Joy Division The Cure The Smiths Echo & The Bunnymen Siouxsie & The Banshees The Pretenders R.E.M The Church U2 Just perfect stuff...
@josemozgonzales1877 ай бұрын
THE SMITHS ABOVE ALL OF THEM !!!!!!
@OnceWasRStrathfield5 ай бұрын
Johnny Marr quote: ''There's not a lot of great bands in Australia.. except The Birthday Party''. The Go-Betweens were his label mates on Rough Trade and they got to be great. Now I hear this.
@MultiAmbivalent2 ай бұрын
All true. Johnny Marr has confirmed this himself. They went to see The Church and were like "that's the life for us..."
@LukasMatejka-du5hb9 ай бұрын
yes, these days The Church is more oriented on that "dream pop" side of their songwriting more...... but back in the 80's, their sound was much more "indie rock" oriented and they were doing that "dream pop" stuff additionally in the background...... so, back then, they sounded A LOT like The Smiths..... people think The Smiths came up with that sound first, because they got more famous, but I can totally see The Church influencing THEM
@JaCapella9 ай бұрын
Are the Smiths more popular than The Church? I wonder what he thinks then about The Cure whom I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure Morrissey said the Cure nixed the Smiths sound
@lavitroladeldiablo Жыл бұрын
Ok, my favourite bass player all time is (still) Andy Rourke, and after he left this world, me and the rest of Smiths fans were a little bit nervy about standing bad or rare comments about them. But, lets be honest, Steve is maybe right here. Despite he would never tell what was on Marr´s head by those time, those quoted similarities couldn´t be just coincidences, innit?
@renmusical8 ай бұрын
Maybe someone should ask Johnny Marr himself, I'm quite curious as I love both bands
@LukeDempsey-l3j9 ай бұрын
I was at that Sheffield Leadmill gig at the end of November 1982 and I didn't see Marr, Rourke or Joyce either! Oho, etc. Mind you, another version of the story has it that Marr and co. actually saw the church in Preston, the following night. Truth is, the Smiths had already played live by August '82 and had made a demo by that October. Good legend, though. Dunno about 'psychedelic glory', either - they'd had their stage wear nicked and Steve wore a grey polo neck at the Leadmill, while Marty wore a plain white shirt. There wasn't any light show either - a lot of it was pretty dark, with most of the lights at the sides and some on the floor.
@thaumaston4 ай бұрын
To the contrary, the Smith's 1982 music reinforces Steve Kilbey's point. Listen to The Hand that Rocks the Cradle or I Want a Boy for My Birthday. Not the layered jingle-jangle that would come to define the Smith's guitar style. All of a sudden, it appears all over their 1983 Hacienda performance and their breakthrough performances of This Charming Man. Contrary to your implications that the story is fabricated, Mike Joyce himself said he was inspired to join The Smith's after watching The Church with Marr. He joined in 1982 (Reference: "The Church - A Psychedelic Symphony"). Lots of objective support for the basic facts.
@LukeDempsey-l3j4 ай бұрын
@@thaumaston There's two main flaws in that, though. One of them is that The Smiths had already played gigs and done a demo before the church played in the UK and before Unguarded Moment had been shown on OGWT. The other is Johnny Marr's reply to a direct question on Twitter, asking if they copied the church after seeing them in late '82: 'Never happened', said Marr. Take your pick, I guess.
@thaumaston4 ай бұрын
@@LukeDempsey-l3j apparently you didn’t bother to read my comment or hear Steve Kilbey’s. My point is the Smith’s sound significantly changed between 1982 and 1983, not that they never played before. Secondly, of course Marr is going to say they did not “copy” the Church, and I don’t think anyone here claimed they did. The point was that they were influenced. None of the points you raised undercut what was actually claimed.
@intothecountry744 ай бұрын
The Smiths never been shy about their influences
@jamesgretsch48948 ай бұрын
Marr was trying to be like Paul Weller also. Steve Jones said he was trying to be like Johnny Thunders, how he held and played his guitar and all the stage moves and facial expressions. He now, years later is pretty embarrassed by the whole thing but when you are young and impressionable like Marr and Jones those things easily happen.
@JackSlider-hf1jb9 ай бұрын
world's dumbest question! i was there that night, great gig
@TheHedgehogsDelimma9 ай бұрын
Having liked both bands for decades, I never saw a real comparison between them. I think he's totally off key to think this.
@decades56439 ай бұрын
Both bands were associated with jangle pop/rock. Especially The Church's earlier stuff (first three albums) which seems to predate The Smiths. So it's possible The Smiths had heard The Church and were influenced by them.
@TheHedgehogsDelimma9 ай бұрын
@@decades5643 It's possible but to take credit seems like a stretch is all and I love both bands !
@josepharmand61178 ай бұрын
The Church were right up there in 'jangly' bands of the early 80s alongside Smiths, REM etc so maybe it did happen. But perhaps these bands just came from the same roots and influences of 'jangly' bands that went before...Byrds, Beatles, Velvets
@yournamehere71822 ай бұрын
Milky Marr 🤷♂
@Gonzax8 ай бұрын
I don't see the similarities at all and I've never heard anyone in The Smiths citing The Church as an influence but it was fin to watch.
@stephenr802 ай бұрын
What
@ST-xg3gy11 ай бұрын
Strong ego.
@mini_mozzer7 ай бұрын
not really. any sort of ego kilbey puts off is him playing it up. and in this video hes not being egotistical, hes right. johnny marr wouldve been 15 or 16 seeing The Church perform their incredible songs. he 100 percent was influenced by that performance.
@montys8th4 ай бұрын
Total narcissist over inflating his importance and relevance but then Steve Kilby has made a career out of that.
@irieploog579Ай бұрын
Love Steve because he’s a character and a lot of his rants are amusing like this one but even he’s self aware he’s got a bit of an ego. He can’t be self aware of it all the time haha. Spend a whole day with Steve and see if you haven’t changed your mind.
@bradswanson67887 ай бұрын
Enjoy your one popular song (that sounds nothing like the Smiths) and otherwise zip it.