Steve Lawson Fired for “Inappropriate Relationship” - What Now? | Ep 1072

[@bethanyhixson3647]

On this topic a friend said, “As reformed people, we have to keep in mind that theology does not equal morality.” We need to get these men off of the pedestals we tend to put them on simply because we like their theology. We need to pray for them more, searching our own hearts in the process. We all have such a desperate need for God’s Grace to walk in obedience, not just good theology.

[@Amy-wh9dz]

Well said 👏

[@ballbreathtaker9773]

And the big question: dear Calvinists, cheap gracers and works-deniers, is this pastor already saved for eternity?

[@tgzhou]

@@ballbreathtaker9773 and how did God predestine this sin by this man?

[@sarafinaleade6124]

exellent point.

[@tammyc4305]

My husband and I are grieved cuz he’s our Brother. I’m so sick and tired of these comments about Pastor worship nonsense, and putting people on a pedestal. People are going to prefer a pastor over another pastor. We have a wide array of who we listen to daily Steve Lawson is one of them if it didn’t shake you up and it doesn’t break your heart then what’s shame . He’s our brother we should rejoice when he rejoices and weep when he weeps and until we know any further he’s our brother. It obviously shook up Ally-she said twice she stopped mid-recording.

[@crossvillegoogler]

There are no great men of God. Only a great God of men. We need to hold our leaders up in prayer, and they don’t need to be counseling women.

[@1Whipperin]

All Ligonier doctors, pastors, and ministers should begin showing true repentance by forsaking their titles and positions of authority among the brethren. Titles like "Pastor" or "Doctor" elevate individuals and create divisions within the body of Christ, contrary to Jesus' teaching that we are all equal under God (Matthew 23:8-12). True repentance means humbling themselves, rejecting worldly status, and embracing the servant-leadership modeled by Christ. It's time for these leaders to abandon titles and restore humility, accountability, and equality within the church. Only then can the body of Christ function as it was intended-without hierarchy or power plays.

[@ashermarcus5242]

They should also abandon the tulip god

[@allyboo65]

@@1Whipperin the Bible doesn’t say it’s a sin to call yourself pastor or teacher. The word pastor only identify you as a shepherd of your flock/church. But the scripture you referred to is saying Rabbi which means Father. We do only have one Father, God. Ephesians 4:11 NASBS And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, I understand your comment though being men can become puffed up with a title etc… Sin is ugly and we all need to stand firm in the faith, know Gods Word and deny self daily and take up our cross. Psalm 119:11 NASBS Your word I have treasured in my heart, That I may not sin against You. Luke 9:23 NASBS And He was saying to them all, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me. Ephesians 6:11 NASBS Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

[@danielmann5427]

​@1Whipperin Hierarchy is biblical and heavenly as well. A rebellious culture is one that does not recognize God's design of authority and roles.

[@1Whipperin]

@danielmann5427 Scripture please.

[@angelaanderson5360]

It's so important to keep our eyes on Jesus not on men.

[@robertheintze9413]

Including Trump, I hope?

[@Sherlock245]

That is wrong

[@kimjohnson8471]

​@@Sherlock245Never feed the trolls. Proverbs 26:4-5

[@CS-fi2wx]

@@robertheintze9413stop, this is not appropriate. Stop it.😩

[@Ottorockzzz]

Amen...

[@susanaponte1579]

Allie Beth, this was wonderful!! Please, pray for me, I fell away exactly the same way, not being in my home church anymore, lost my husband at 32, with 4 small children, and spiraled into depression and anxiety, after awhile, not even realizing I was being deceived!! I love the way you put everything in perspective, thank you!!❤😊

[@Romans6_23]

@@susanaponte1579 I’m so sorry sister. I’ll be praying for you.🙏🏼

[@Titus-2-Mom]

Im praying for you ❤

[@janetammaro7110]

Praying for your healing.♥️🙏🙌☝️✝️

[@dacia6247]

Praying for you❤

[@ashlynlee4603]

I have been watching Steve Lawson's teachings online since about 2019. I've learned a lot and have been thankful for his excellence in expository preaching. With that said, I'm grateful I have a wonderful home pastor in McKinney. He has been with my my husband and I from the beginning of our journey to becoming Christians and walking through hard seasons with us. Although it is shocking to see this unfold, my faith is not shaken because it is rooted in Christ and not a man.

[@holy_warc.s.t.369]

A man falling to sexual temptation or having some sort of an”affair”, really never surprises me. But getting behind the pulpit and preaching to others as though you’re a faithful servant of Christ, blows me away. It makes it difficult to believe that the person is actually born again. How could anyone do that without being hounded by their own conscience and the Holy Spirit? It’s really a terrifying thought.

[@culturalobserver8721]

Their EGO blinds them.

[@marlak1104]

Self-deception happens gradually, pride is at the root. We must be vigilant and humbly come to God aware of our own sin. So easy to just go through the motions. God help us.

[@Shofargirl1]

I agree with you ! Everyone is saying ( "We have to lift him up ") Why? He knew what he was doing. The first thing I thought of is , it is hard for JESUS to see his adultery. I believe that the LORD removed him . Enough! I grieve over the sins of my youth. I am now almost 78.

[@kevinjypiter6445]

​@@Shofargirl1 Well, it isn't so much that the Lord removed him, but wasn't it that he was never saved to begin with? He is a Calvinist and teaches we do not have free will as Christians. So God never chose to regenerate Steve Lawson, so he was always damned to begin with?

[@jasongoldsworthy6149]

​@@kevinjypiter6445 Did not King David fall into sin? He was described as a man after God's own heart. Did not God restore David ? Just because your saved does not mean we do not sin. It is by God's grace we are saved, not by own efforts.

[@allyboo65]

Him being the traveling preacher was my first concern. 😢 It’s also so challenging as a great preacher to become proud and thinking you know all the things the Bible says as true so you would Never betray Gods word. Take heed lest you fall. 😢 This is all just so sad and heartbreaking. Never forget to put on your spiritual armor!!! The flesh is weak!!

[@RCGWho]

Traveling alone makes you vulnerable. Did he travel with his wife?

[@urbanfarmer29]

​@@RCGWhomost of the time she did not accompany him, is what I read.

[@LAStreetPreacher]

I never trusted this man after I asked him point blank at a Shepherd's conference where I first met him. I asked him if he knew Paul Washer and he said "No." I found this hard to believe since Paul Washer was a well-known preacher of the Reformed faith and had been around a long time. Mr. Lawson's response was somewhat defensive and I doubted his response and considered him a liar.

[@allyboo65]

@@LAStreetPreacher Did he say something that was lying? Or you just didn’t trust him after he said he didn’t know who Washer was?

[@LAStreetPreacher]

@@allyboo65 Actually I asked him if he had heard of Paul Washer and he said "No." How was this possible, I asked myself? If I had heard about Paul Washer (and I do not travel or get around the nation and network in such circles as Steve Lawson did) then I am pretty sure Steve had at least heard the name before even if he had never met him. John MacArthur had heard about Paul Washer. He had spoken at Master's seminary if I recall. Anyway my gut instinct was very doubtful of the truth of Steve Lawson's answer. I can not prove he lied but I suspect he did and for whatever reason did not want to disclose this information. As a result of my interaction, I didn't trust him after this. Lying and adultery are bed partners don't you think?

[@applemac100100]

Everyone that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This is a time for looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

[@tillo1981]

1 Cor 10:12

[@kmann7249]

And the LORD said, he shall make him to stand. Who are we to judge the servant of another man's master. Hw will make him to rise or fall. Be careful brothers and sisters in Christ. No one is exempt from the fleshly lusts.

[@Factoreffectsmedia]

this bible verse is about people that are prideful in their sins.

[@HeartAumbreMercado]

Our response should be praying for all believers specially Pastors and leaders.

[@chanceotter8121]

“Go to the church with the most humble pastor”. That is the most wise advice I have ever heard about picking a church to belong to. My sincere hope is this event will start the voluntary unraveling of the celebrity preacher circuit in the Reformed/Calvinist circles.

[@beatriicks]

Allie Beth is slowly moving more and more to Catholicism….

[@toonybrain]

@@chanceotter8121 These days “humble pastor” is oxymoronic…

[@savedbygrace6525]

See, the thing that bothers me about these men is they never sound broken and truly sorry. They always sound like they are on the defensive, " don't judge me on one weak moment " instead, he should ask for FORGIVENESS, PERIOD!!

[@allyboo65]

@@savedbygrace6525 I totally agree. But it’s because of pride. The proud know so much and don’t think they could possibly do something wrong and if they do, they don’t need someone telling them they did. He thinks he’s above that. It’s pride telling him that. He can’t be looked down on by others in his mind. What others think about him are more important to him than what God thinks at this point. He probably has not reached a point of repentance yet, just shame and embarrassment in getting caught. For others to find out what he has done is humiliating to him. He needs to realize this sin is against God!! Until he is broken before the Lord he will try to justify himself. We need to pray for him and have hearts of forgiveness.

[@eflint1]

Lawson's letter did not sound proud or arrogant. He sounded very regretful.

[@seanbudde1965]

So many Christians are deceived by the deception that is Calvinism, which is mostly false theology. Better to stop listening to perverters of the word of God and study the source material without these carnal influences. Calvinism is nothing more than intellectualism masquerading as spirituality. Avoid this well meaning but absolutely erroneous and carnal exegesis at all costs. It just influences one's view of the scriptures in a biased way that leads to more and more error because of that carnal bias that did not come from the Holy Spirit.

[@greyhairedgrammie]

@@eflint1 Regret is because something you wanted kept secret was exposed. Regret is that you got caught. It is not the same as repentance.

[@eflint1]

@greyhairedgrammie you could say the same about David, who didn't express regret until he got caught.

[@nataliejetter7233]

Allie...I am so glad you brought up the point about the dismissive comments made by other famous (reformed) pastors. For them to be so quick to jump to "we all sin" did not appropriately emphasize the gravity of this sin, mainly because of the size of Dr. Lawson's platform and the amount of years he has faithfully taught the Word. Yes we all sin. But teachers are held to a higher standard. It is right to be extremely grieved or angry while still "watching ourselves lest we also be tempted." Lord, come quickly!!

[@Steppingheavnward]

Amen!!! Thank you

[@Nolongeraslave]

It true though, we all sin. The devastation may not be the same but the underline factor is still the same, all of us have that hidden sin which just seems not to go away. God always let His servants fall just as He did with the " man after God's heart", David. The devastation of his sin did not stop on him alone but his family as well, death by the sword. But God could not let David be lost on Him. I belonged to such a Church that brought their members to the congregation to confess their sin publicly and they did not spare a Senior Pastor who fell into sin of adultery. I remember many members getting really upset, but the leadership of the Church could not compromise their standard of discipline. Some years later, after close observation he was restored. I think this is a honest way to keep Christisns disciplined ~ rebuked publicly as Paul teaches and also uncompromising discipline of the Church. This pastor first confessed to his wife!

[@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways]

Amen. I think Reformed churches have big problems going back to Erasmus and Martin Luther. In March 2024 I did a video about his false teaching on divorce and remarriage though he was correct on rebuking Alistair Begg (also a falseteacher on divorceandremarriage). You can't preach that there are excuses for divorce and remarriage because the Bible says that only after the death of your covenant spouse can you remarry. All these names you are mentioning are false teachers on divorce and remarriage. I am the innocent divorced woman, and I have obeyed Jesus not to remarry for 16 years (42 years married) and by God’s grace have lived celibate. Steve is going to be judged for condoning adultery just like John MacArthur. Hebrews 13:4, Revelation 2, Luke 16:14-18, Mark 10:2-12 and many more. Praying for his wife. Adultery can be forgiven, but you have to go and sin no more. Allie, check every preacher on divorce and remarriage adultery, and then you will know if they are Pharisees. The Pharisees said you could divorce and remarry, but Jesus said no. Only a Jewish betrothed man could divorce his betrothed virgin wife IF she fornicated with another man before the betrothed husband had taken her to consummate their marriage like Joseph was going to divorce Mary for FORNICATION (though she was still a virgin). There is no exception for divorcing for adultery. It's pretty terrible because hypocrites, adulterers and fornicators will not go to heaven in the pre-Tribulation rapture which is imminent.

[@mercysmith]

If Mr. Lawson has been an excellent expositor I hope the church will not destroy all his works as they did with Ravi Zacharias’ work. Though their present fall is a terrible impact on the bride of Christ, only Satan would win if Godly teaching is erased. I say this only if the sinner is sincerely remorseful, sad, devestated and completely repentant. No matter what, his family is hurting. I pray for them and pray Mr. Lawson will follow his own teachings of repentance. On his face before a Holy God.

[@shawnaweesner3759]

I like your comment.

[@madisyngerard7209]

So many people's response to Christian heartbreak over this is essentially "well, it's you're own fault that you're heartbroken! You should trust in God, not men!" Heartbreak and betrayal are normal feelings when someone has portrayed themselves to be one thing, and it turns out they were a liar. Of course we trust *in God and not *in men, we hope *in God not *in men, but we do trust our brothers and sisters in Christ and it's normal to feel sad about their lies.

[@DarlineHayes]

Well said!!

[@vicki7874]

Yes, that is what I was thinking. Thanks for saying it.

[@Bidur1]

Truly said. We also need to trust our leaders though our hope is in the Lord alone...

[@sydneyskinner6258]

I was finally able to coax my daughter and her friend to a service at Grace Community here in Los Angeles and Steve Lawson was the guest pastor and delivered a powerful sermon. It was very convicting and it was on the subject of genuine salvation. When she learned what happened it really shook her faith.

[@MT-be8gk]

Pray for the youth at that Church also. Their minds and hearts are so vulnerable.

[@Romans6_23]

I live in the DFW area and was thinking about becoming a member at Trinity Bible Church. My husband and I would watch online and then we found a local baptist church we really liked too. The thing that stood out to us was that Trinity Bible always had different preachers. Lawson was traveling most of the time and it seemed that would cause a disconnect between shepherd and flock. So we ended up choosing our local baptist church where the pastor is invested in shepherding the flock personally. Thank you for pointing this out Allie, we noticed that too.

[@Qmedjoe]

I really loved Countryside bible fellowship when I lived in Dallas!

[@jimfoard5671]

@@Qmedjoe Bless you.

[@NathanLongacre-jo6cx]

I am from the DFW area, but I go to Mater Dei in Irving.

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

@@Romans6_23 this traveling preachers trend is not the greatest

[@yllatusmuna]

Revival Today Church DFW is also a good option.

[@aldocardenas3282]

Common sense tells me that if Steve had just preached the Sunday before "confessing", and if the ultimate goal is his repentance, then he came out clean because someone else was going to Reveal the truth.

[@Mirjana-oz3mv]

Jon Benzinger tweets confirm this

[@abundantlifenancytovar9757]

amen, he should have confessed to his family in private then congregation the moment something happened. then step down and do something lower for gods kingdom.

[@trh1493]

The father of the woman came to the elders at Trinity church and exposed him then and then only did he come forward that’s another Jimmy Swaggart, but with different theology

[@leenieledejo6849]

​@@trh1493 Exactly. That's what Phil Johnson tweeted (and he said it was not a "noble confession").

[@eflint1]

@trh1493 yes another Swaggart. Neither Swaggart nor Lawson had intercourse with the woman. We're not even sure if Lawson had any sexual contact with the other party.

[@lunab695]

I was going to avoid listening to this episode because I was so heartbroken I didn’t want to revisit what happened but I am glad I did only to understand your biblical response. Thank you Allie

[@felipediazvlog]

Rebuke the sin. Show the grace we've been shown. Truth and love. Love does not minimizes truth. Truth must not avoid love.

[@CristinaCastilloficial]

Why is this shocking ? Nobody is exempt from sin, this is why we must place our trust in God only and constantly pray for our leaders.

[@jeassesanchez]

Amen amen

[@Sidney051]

It’s not shocking to most people but if you really look up to a person and kind of put them on a pedestal it can be shocking. I was not familiar with Steve Lawson that much so this was not the case for me but I have so much love and respect for my former pastor that if he fell in that manner I would be shocked and heartbroken.

[@luciaveritas5155]

Maybe we need less famous preachers and more regular small congregations with ordinary preachers . Not saying anyone is immune to sin but there’s a repeating theme here

[@kevinjypiter6445]

Isn't it just that God never chose to regenerate Steve Lawson? (he is a Calvinist and teaches openly teaches we have no free will)

[@Mojo32]

​@@kevinjypiter6445"God chooses who will ultimately serve Him, 'man' still has the freewill to sin..."

[@DarlineHayes]

“Don’t judge him on one hiccup” is what he preached. Hiccups are involuntary. It’s not a a DECISION! He clearly made a decision!

[@alrinaleroux9229]

Absolutely -- perhaps people allow their desires and emotions to rule such decisions, but it is still a choice.

[@kimbeaty1187]

....and every. single. one. of us are guilty of doing likewise....

[@alrinaleroux9229]

@@kimbeaty1187 It hurts us and others.

[@charlesglowacz458]

@@kimbeaty1187 Point?

[@kaylahuntington7059]

​@@kimbeaty1187 we may all be sinners, but it's a special role to be a leader and teacher in the church and one that someone should not take lightly. His actions can be what helps cause someone to stumble. Sad day when these things happen.

[@ronaldvanveen7666]

He got proud , isolated , not accountable to no brother in the Lord , and we are all capable of falling . May God restore Him and His marriage and family on the road of recovery .

[@AJTramberg]

You don't know any of those things.

[@CM-sy3to]

No. His poor wife has endured enough. He needs to go away.

[@lw6138]

Where did you read this? Be careful of false accusations. We know nothing other than that it was inappropriate.

[@tuppence144]

I'm inclined to agree with you. It's the path King David followed. Only Steve Lawson can answer the question that's on everybody's mind. Was it worth it? Deception has many forms and pride and or arrogance is surely some of them.

[@WandaRichardson-m2r]

But he should never preach or pastor again!!!

[@MrsS-i6d]

Thank you Allie for covering this very sad and difficult topic with biblical clarity. Our prayers continue for all affected by this grave sin. This seems to be yet another sign of our times, where a “great falling away” seems to be occurring. God is certainly refining His household ( where all of His judgement begins ) ! 🙏🏼

[@jwehrli6]

What grave sin it was just emotional not sexual. You act like he killed his wife.

[@colleenjohnson9638]

Judging by the tone of his last message, he sounded defensive. One does not "fall" into sin. Sin grows within the heart long before actions take place. It is heartbreaking that such a powerful ministry leader has been brought so low.

[@JP-ec9rl]

Funny, my bible states that sin is ever present in the flesh. It's only "heartbreaking" if someone put him up on a pedestal in the first place. If someone was suffering from pious cognitive dissonance from reality to begin with. There are no leaders. Leaders violate the first commandment.

[@bradlot5104]

​@@JP-ec9rl yeah hard, Jesus Christ should be the idol, not man.

[@JP-ec9rl]

@@bradlot5104 not even that Jesus Christ should be the idol, no offense, I understand your sentiment and the point that you are trying to make. Jesus Christ should be believed and it should be understood that He is God. Jesus should be trusted that He will keep His word, no matter what, even though we don't because He holds His words above His name and perversion of His message is an absolute high form of blasphemy. We were never instructed to go out and create corporate networks and banking and investment empires. 99% of these celebrity preachers are frauds, con artists and snake oil peddlers of a perverted theology. 99% of the congregants are attending satanic masses in satanic temples and the fact of the matter escapes them, meanwhile they're distracted by their false hero's shortcomings that don't measure up to a false gynocentric theology taught from a modified text that was edited to fit the theology. I'm sorry for the rant but I just don't have much respect for all of it.

[@JP-ec9rl]

@@bradlot5104 2 Timothy 3:6-7 King James Version 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[@CountyClaire]

Exactly. A person does not just get up one morning and decide, ''Oh, I think I'll rob a bank.'' The mind has been working with the idea and plans long before. If Steve is truly a Christian, the Holy Spirit was giving him all kinds of warnings about giving way to immoral thoughts and plans..... complete with all the scripture that goes along with it.

[@recoveredcalvinist]

If it was one weak moment, or an ongoing affair, it was not a hiccup! A one-time fling requires much lustful thought. An ongoing affair, requires much devious thought, planning, and deceit to even get into the bedroom. Any way one looks at it, it is disgusting.

[@lisawatkins8801]

He was put on a pedestal, so his fall is amplified. We need to stop looking to pastors and leaders as our examples and look only to Jesus. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

[@kimjohnson8471]

@@lisawatkins8801 Preach!

[@debgoetz1571]

Amen!! We are all sinners saved by grace. That said, according to the Word of God, teachers are held to a higher standard BECAUSE of their influence - especially on those who are seeking and/or are babes in Christ. I've been a born again follower of Jesus for over 43 years and I have lost count of how many prominent, celebrity, head/senior pastors have had to step down from ministry or were kicked out of their church due to the sin of ADULTERY. If we knew how many pastors are addicted to pornography, (which is also ADULTERY- looking with lust at a woman who is not their wife) the vast majority of churches would be without a pastor. That said, the unbiblical model of having a head or senior pastor (aka: BIG MAN ON CAMPUS) has proven to be a recipe for disaster. The biblical model for church leadership is to have a PLURALITY of elders, ie: pastors/shepherds/bishops/overseers (all synonymous with "elder") co-leading/serving/ministering to the body of believers in the local church - sharing the responsibility and "work" including that of teaching, discipling and church discipline - and being accountable to one another - and ideally doing this work as a ministry onto the Lord - NOT as a job or career. Jesus warned about the shepherds being replaced by unfaithful "hirlings" and that is exactly what has happened in this Laodicean church age in the vast majority of evangelical churches. :(

[@dh1335]

We are to be an example in our Christian walk. Paul said imitate me as I imitate Christ

[@dh1335]

Another scripture says pride comes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Has Lawson really repented? Him naming his theology and academic achievements rather a broken and contrite Spirit says it all

[@lisawatkins8801]

@@debgoetz1571 I agree 100% with you!

[@neilhess2518]

Allie: You are one of the wisest, well grounded believers in mass media. Thank you for your example.

[@christianuniversalist]

yeah, no

[@Icayn]

So was Steve

[@tensyd7]

Thanks Allie for giving us a new clear perspective of our leaders & preachers & how important it is for us to pray for them just as much as we pray for our families. God bless you ♥️

[@gingrai00]

Agreed. She is quite insightful.

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

@@christianuniversalistAllie has more intelligence in her pinky toe than you your entire brain.

[@cabautista4733]

I feel you sadness, and your grief about all this... thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I am so encouraged...

[@joseywales9726]

one weak moment...that lasted over 5 years, he came forward because the woman's father threatened to go to the elders if he did not

[@juliegful]

His poor wife and family! So very heartbreaking! Praying for all🛐

[@PatB-wt3ty]

What about the woman he defiled physically, emotionally, and psychologically? Is she worthless?

[@franklogan494]

@@PatB-wt3tyNo she was party to it.

[@kathybates1751]

​​@@PatB-wt3tyUnless he raped her she chose to be part of it.

[@sofiabravo1994]

@Uranium235-g6f it takes 2 to cheat.

[@dianecourtney2724]

Is she sinning if she wants to kick him out ?

[@maggiewakeman5877]

My husband and I, too, were very saddened and shocked by the news of Steve Lawson. He spoke at our church during our Holiness conference this past February and a couple of other times. He spoke on Isaiah chapter 6 and I still remember the message. Although Steve disqualified himself from ministry, God's word is true. Our pastor at Countryside Bible Church in Southlake addressed our church this past Sunday about Steve Lawson. Our pastor read the statement from Trinity Bible Church. He stated that we follow Christ and not a man. He also reviewed the qualifications of an Elder, saying that an Elder must be above reproach and a one woman man. Then, our pastor prayed for Trinity Bible Church, all the people involved and for Steve Lawson. In our church's media archives, Steve's name has been deleted from the speaker lineup of the past conferences at our church where he was one of the speakers. Our women's church prayer group and our entire church are and have been praying for everyone involved. Our women's prayer group has been praying regularly for our church's elders and pastoral staff faithfully for the last 6 and a half years. We recognize how important it is to pray for our pastors and elders and our congregation. God continues to build His church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

[@Kh-7777]

There should be a warning that anyone can fall

[@NathanLongacre-jo6cx]

Steve Lawson is viciously anti-Catholic, and he even said the Virgin Mary wasn’t always a virgin; I was always wondering why he made up weird sexual fan-fiction about the Virgin Mary, when even heretic Martin Luther affirmed the perpetual virginity. Furthermore, Steve Lawson would always gloat about his belief in the satanic doctrine that says that some people are predestined for damnation from all eternity. He was gloating, and now he’s done for. Maybe HE was “predestined” for Hell. Hahaha! Just kidding, no one is predestined for damnation; he brought this damnation on himself.

[@JohnMcCloskey-g9o]

The sinless get to throw the first stone,,, all others can forgive,,, as God forgave.... God Bless Steve U R light life truth love Will zeal order wisdom understanding knowledge strength power of mind power of body judgement balance elimination justice freedom destiny victory with JESUS forever and ever, ,the church will restore,,, and so will you,,,,and wife and family.. Blessings again to family and church,,,, John

[@shawnaweesner3759]

@@JohnMcCloskey-g9o You are taking that verse -“let he who is without sin cast the first stone” out of context. And here’s why. Jesus said those words for that specific person, and event, and those people surrounding this woman getting ready to kill her. I bet you don’t apply Jesus’ words “get up and walk” to those with back injuries. I’m also questioning why you feel the need to tell everyone else to forgive this man. You don’t know anyone’s heart in this matter, let alone that people are condemning this man for his sinfulness. It just seems very presumptuous of you.

[@shawnaweesner3759]

To @maggiewakeman5877: I appreciate your comment. 🙏

[@katrinaparkerson7819]

He was one of my top teachers I loved listening to after RC Sproul. His ministry and work with Ligonier really blessed me. I’m heartbroken with the news. I pray for his family, his wife, Trinity Bible Church and him. The reformed world is shaken right now, but Christ is head of his church and I think it’s caused many in the pulpit to examine their own hearts.

[@1Whipperin]

All Ligonier doctors, pastors, and ministers should begin showing true repentance by forsaking their titles and positions of authority among the brethren. Titles like "Pastor" or "Doctor" elevate individuals and create divisions within the body of Christ, contrary to Jesus' teaching that we are all equal under God (Matthew 23:8-12). True repentance means humbling themselves, rejecting worldly status, and embracing the servant-leadership modeled by Christ. It's time for these leaders to abandon titles and restore humility, accountability, and equality within the church. Only then can the body of Christ function as it was intended-without hierarchy or power plays.

[@keith8325]

​@1Whipperin Really? Christ founded a hierarchical church that has been retained via Apostolic succession. His succession plan included a system guided by the Holy Spirit to remain united (his final prayer "That they may be one " (Jn 17:21). But the Reformers protested, removing themselves from Christ's Church, and the rest is history. Blessings, praying for our separated brethren.

[@1Whipperin]

@keith8325 Really. Jesus never established a formal hierarchy resembling the structured organizations that exist in some Christian traditions today. Instead, His emphasis was always on servant leadership, humility, and the equality of all believers. Jesus clearly taught against the pursuit of power and hierarchical authority. In His ministry, He reminded His disciples not to exercise authority over others as the rulers of the world do. He said that those who wish to be great must become servants, and those who wish to be first must be slaves to all. His own life modeled this principle, as He came not to be served but to serve and to give His life as a ransom for many. This teaching directly opposes the idea of a rigid church hierarchy where some have authority over others. Further, Jesus emphasized the equality of all His followers. He warned against seeking titles or positions of superiority. He instructed that no one should call another "rabbi" or "father" in a religious sense because all believers are brothers and sisters under one Father, God, and one teacher, Christ. This reinforces the notion that in the community of believers, there is no place for one person to elevate themselves above others through titles or hierarchical power. The New Testament also teaches that the Holy Spirit is the one who leads believers into truth. Rather than a human structure of authority, the early church was guided by the Holy Spirit. Decisions were often made collectively with prayerful dependence on God’s Spirit, as seen in key moments of early church history. This Spirit-led model further challenges the idea that Christ intended a hierarchical system to govern His followers. Additionally, the New Testament promotes the concept of the "priesthood of all believers." Every Christian has direct access to God and is part of a royal priesthood. This idea removes the need for a special class of priests or leaders to mediate between believers and God. All are equal before God, and all share in the responsibility of proclaiming His message. This again points away from a hierarchical system where only a few have special authority over others. The early church, as described in Acts, operated with a communal leadership model, rather than a top-down hierarchy. The believers shared their lives, their resources, and their responsibilities in a spirit of mutual care and unity. Leadership was shared among elders and other servants, but all were accountable to one another and to Christ as the true head of the church. In light of these teachings, it is clear that the claim of Christ founding a hierarchical church conflicts with the principles He taught and the example set by the early church. His message was one of service, equality, and reliance on the Holy Spirit, rather than the establishment of a rigid system of authority.

[@keith8325]

@@1Whipperin The hypocrisy of the scribes and Pharisees in Mt 23 is an expose of corruption among Israel's teachers. It is also a warning to Christian leaders of the pitfalls to be avoided in pastoral ministry. Jesus warns that one who exalts himself can expect the day of reckoning to bring humiliation (7 woes). However, one who humbles himself will be exalted by God. We are warned against the sinful desire or affection for honorific titles. Addressing your desire to remove titles: Christ unquestionably formed an authoritative, hierarchical church before his departure. Christ is head of the body, the Church (Col 1:18). We have many parts, but are one body in Christ (Rom 12:4-5). His Church is authoritative, not by leaders "rising themselves up" but rather by Christ choosing and appointing his leaders (Jn 15:16). Jesus gave the apostles his own mission (Jn 20:21) with hierarchical leadership (Eph 4:11). He identifies specific roles of bishops, priests, and deacons (I Tim 3:1,8;5:17) and commissions the bishops to ordain priests (Titus 1:4-16). As in his Epistles to Timothy, Paul speaks to bishop Titus of the importance of doctrinal unity in the Church. He stresses the authority and duties of the bishop to faithfully and accurately teach the Gospel and to select sound men to SUCCEED him as Bishops. Paul instructs Titus to "declare, exhort, and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you"( Titus 2:15). Prior to Our Lords ascension, Jesus gathers his eleven at a mountain and delegates all power to his Apostles (Mt 28:18-20). Elsewhere, He grants power to forgive sin (Jn 20:23), power to offer sacrifice (I Cor 11:23-24), power to speak with Christ's voice (Lk 10:16), power to discipline and legislate (Mt 18:17-18). He didn't leave us orphans. The Holy Spirit guides his leaders into all truth (Jn 16:13). via "the pillar and foundation of truth, that is the Church" (I Tim 3:15). Christs church is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic, with the promise to prevail to the end (Mt 16:18). Our leaders are, as you stated, and Christ commands to be servants. Our leaders are chosen (rather than self elevated) and are called to live the virtues of chastity, poverty, and obedience. These men "made themselves eunichs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it" (Mt 19:12). Imagine a large company with no stated leadership. It would devolve into chaos and then extinction. And so it goes to those who have removed themselves from Christ's authoritative, hierarchical structure. Christ's succession plan is powered by the paraclete, and allows for Christ's final prayer to be answered"That they all may be one "(Jn 17:17) with "no divisions among you"(I Cor 1:10). What a marvelous church Christ founded....who founded your church?

[@keith8325]

@@1Whipperin Mt 23 is an expose of corruption among Israel's teachers as well as a warning to Christian leaders of the pitfalls to be avoided in pastoral ministry. Jesus warns against the sinful desire or affection for honorific titles. One who exalts himself can expect the day of reckoning (7woes), whereas the one who humbles himself will be exalted by God. The church is united because it is hierarchical (Eph 4:11) authoritative (Mt 28:18-20) and guided by the Holy Spirit into all truth (Jn 16:13) . Our leaders guide us to live the virtues of chastity, poverty, and obedience. "There are eunichs who have made themselves eunichs for the kingdom of heaven"(Mt 19:12). These leaders are gifted, as Paul was (I Cor 7:7) with celibacy that is used for a life of service, example, and unity among the body of Christ. Thanks be to God!

[@anitanavarro4121]

What discourages me, is thinking of the men I love around me. Do they even have a chance? If Steve Lawson fell, what hope do my beloved men have? 😢

[@juliesmith5264]

I have not heard or read any comment that expresses or allows for the future choice his wife has under scripture. I have heard, “let’s pray for the restoration of his marriage” while also, “he should not be restored to ministry”. While Lawson’s sin is against God first and foremost, the next in line is his wife even before the church. If we are so certain he should not be restored to ministry, why in the world do we expect his marriage to be restored? She has every right to divorce him if she chooses, and I hope that the call to restoration does not pin her into a corner of believing she has to stay with him for “the greater good” of demonstrating forgiveness and restoration. She can forgive him and have an amicable relationship with him for the sake of the Gospel and for their family, but if his marriage does not survive this, that is a consequence of his sin and not his wife’s.

[@buckyoung4578]

Under Biblical teachings adultery is a basis for divorce.

[@jewelgazer]

I totally agree with this!

[@jenniferruth812]

Thank you for saying this!

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

I am so sad, brother Lawson has helped me to grow in the word for years, I still love him as a brother!

[@markminton6904]

Me too.

[@user-kr5ph2oi2b]

Gods Holy Word is what grew you. Not this man.

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

@@user-kr5ph2oi2b this man helped me, the same way that a brother can help one a pastor, stop your pietism! We are all beneficiaries of godly men, that’s why the Lord puts them there! Are you holy than all?

[@YouPew1873]

@@user-kr5ph2oi2bwell said

[@laurenshannon2703]

​But gratitude to a person who serves is not idolatry. Mercy is not tolerance.​@@user-kr5ph2oi2b

[@kimjohnson8471]

I have a genuine question: In this video & and others, I hear so many expressing their shock and disbelief. As if because of his doctrine and theology, he was somehow immune to gross sin. If this were someone from the Charismatic camp, the response would be more along the lines of "what did you expect?" Be doers of the word and not hearers only. Having the "right doctrine" is not doing. Talking about holiness is not doing. Preaching with great oratory skills is not doing. Keeping company with those who profess holiness is not doing. One must do to be doing! No exceptions. The Great Shaking has indeed begun. Everything and everyone....all of us...will be shaken. Will you be able to stand? I pray for Pastor Lawson, his family, and his congregation that they be strengthen in the Lord to be healed & restored. ❤

[@ruthdella37]

Amos 9:9.

[@Mrs.C-6721]

Beautifully stated! Yes, it has begun. So much more we don't even know about too. Reminds me of Ravi Zaccharias. Many have died with these sexual sins😢 LORD have mercy My Lord we pray they all REPENT! Maranatha 🙌

[@alrinaleroux9229]

Being treated with great respect and admiration and appreciation can be very dangerous. We need to be sober and vigilant, and to be willing to give up our lives for our faith.

[@ijclnl48]

Calvinism is a false Gospel. Don't be led astray by these wolves.

[@SmellsAddicted]

​@@ruthdella37 John 8:7

[@KaitlynE105]

My entire family is heartbroken over this news. He has been an encouragement to us over the years, and we've all learned so much about the truth of the word of God from him. We're praying for his repentance and restoration with God and his family. Thank you Allie, for your analysis. I've been avoiding other people talking about the subject but I'm glad I listened to your take. It was encouraging.

[@jenniferruth812]

It is a great disappointment that the church calls it an ‘inappropriate relationship’. That is minimizing & distancing what is & SHOULD BE called adultery.

[@reformed37]

I’ve heard Steve Lawson say a lot of statements about not being generally converted because some believers struggle with sin…wonder what’s his thoughts are now?

[@WordMadeFlesh777]

That’s probably why he fell…got puffed up and lacked grace so God sent a test and he got caught and brought to the light. God hates arrogance.

[@Annekee8]

I listen all the way from the Netherlands. I love to hear this lady speak. I so agree with all she says. Love to hear sisters in Christ like her. I hear such a balance and wisdom, discernment, speaking in love with humility. And I was shocked as well. Also here in my nation some preachers have fallen and even more sadly...divorced and went back to minister again and leading a new church/ministry.. I am especially in shock as they are still preaching about purity and quarding your heart while being involved in sexual sinn at the same time. I can not wrapp my head around that.. And yes we should all quard our hearts. Blessings to all my sisters in Christ here.

[@leenieledejo6849]

Amen

[@JoleneBear-y7i]

Remember Jim Bakker and his wife Tammy? Same situation. He came back and has his own ministry. Even though this is a serious situation, no person is sinless. I'm not taking up for him at all and he should have consequences. I feel so sorry for his family.

[@MaritzaRodriguez-tt6fh]

Sin makes you stupid, it just does. (Revive our hearts) -Mary Kassin

[@leenieledejo6849]

Sin is anti-love. That's what Romans 13:8-10 says.

[@juliejohnson3508]

Allie, thank you for this episode. This is just so sad and heartbreaking. I have been the benefactor of Steve Lawson’s peaching at Grace Community and elsewhere. My question is why is Trinity Bible church calling this an inappropriate relationship with an unknown woman instead of calling it what the Bible calls it….Adultery. I think when we rename sin there is a problem! Also….the “unknown woman” makes me sad too! We should pray for her, she is certainly not unknown to God. Praying for the church, Steve’s family and of course Steve himself.

[@Steppingheavnward]

Yes, we should be using biblical language!

[@xabisogxoyiya8022]

This is the most balanced take I have heard so far. The others show too much leniency or too much condemnation. It is a cautionary tale for the reformed community, all that head knowledge is nothing without the correct heart posture and it shows in a big way. Doctrine means nothing if no one lives it authentically - Jesus saves not doctrine.

[@Sidney051]

I think a big part of the problem with our churches today is that the way church is set up now a days is we arrive at church and listen to one man preach at us for an hour roughly and think we can be united as a body of Christ. Some churches do the small group thing and that’s great but some people are going through very difficult trials in life and sometimes feel ashamed about how their life is going at that moment and need ministry on a personal level but at the same time don’t feel well enough spiritually to put on the fake smile and shake hands at small groups. I think it’s a great tragedy in today’s churches. I think the reason this happens so much today is because most people in church are so broken because our world is so messed up now.

[@anamelendez5812]

Thank you Allie, for doing the Lord’s work and bringing much blessing to so many lives. Much love in Christ! ❤

[@cameronmanochi7289]

I have been saying for awhile that we need to be weary of men that have their main focus on their online or conference ministries. Biblically there is no such thing as a pastor outside of a local church with a focus on shepherding the lives and hearts of the local body he teaches at.

[@RCGWho]

Or missionary/church planter.

[@cameronmanochi7289]

@@RCGWho biblical missions is sending qualified pastors / elders to do ministry in a different place.

[@RCGWho]

​@@cameronmanochi7289i know

[@1mugler.778]

​​@@RCGWhowasn't Apostle Paul a missionary church planter?

[@sarahs3988]

​@@RCGWhomissionaries and church planters are absolutely biblical. Paul Washer being a great example of this. Paul in the bible being our first example. A pastor on the other hand should be shepherding that particular church. Some people are speakers and not pastors. Some people are church planters and not pastors.

[@allyboo65]

Another thought that breaks my heart is his wife. This has and will tear her away from her church. Where will she go? She will suffer from his sin and I am so sad for her. I pray they will be able to be restored so they will be able to attend a church as soon as possible.

[@BelindaTN]

He has only stepped down from leadership in the church. He is not forbidden to go to church.

[@allyboo65]

@@BelindaTN yes, you’re right. But it will make it very hard for them to go to Trinity. Not saying they are banned but it’s just the nature of being found out. And it’s such a distraction. It causes a ripple effect of unwanted consequences.

[@DarlineHayes]

I agree! Unless you have been through this, you don’t understand how hard it is to be the wife of an adulterous pastor. Church is NOT the same afterwards! The wife needs prayer and support!

[@WordMadeFlesh777]

Yes, so sad…

[@fwily2580]

How do you know? Do you know her fidelity situation? This is why Christian s are so easily duped. They believe with little evidence.

[@AndreaGonzalez-qo7ni]

Thank you Allie for always discussing the hard things. You don't make excuses or choose favorites. You speak to the importance of head vs. heart knowledge and true and humble repentance.

[@lrt3338]

I had all of these same thoughts after reading about. Thank you for addressing each one.

[@BrotherMikeBCSF]

THIS ONE REALLY GOT TO ME ! I LOVED HIS MINISTRY ! OUT OF LEFT FIELD ! VERY SAD.

[@krissyann64]

I always pray for the best outcome in this type of situation. It's so disheartening when you have listened to, learned from, and felt compelled by someone's preaching for so many years and have a reality check like this. It is hard not to be worried about our pastors and teachers. Keeping them all in our prayers.

[@Sherlock245]

You are fallen yourself becareful how you judge dr Lawson. We don't know the details.

[@CM-sy3to]

Nope, don't expect a good outcome. Men with long-term or multiple affairs can never manage to handle their loss in stature so will go back to a flatterer.

[@Titus-2-Mom]

I am also praying for a good outcome which may be nothing more than repentance and reconciliation to those he hurt. But you are right, we need to be praying for our pastors regularly

[@nathanwarren2757]

@@CM-sy3towhat is impossible with man is possible with God

[@CM-sy3to]

@@nathanwarren2757 Hebrews 6:4-6 it is impossible

[@keng8883]

My first pastor was caught with the secretary in his office. They were both married. My second pastor built a huge prestigious church but left when the bills couldn't be paid. He sold the parsonage, kept the money and skipped town. Down the road, another one of my pastors was caught cheating on his wife when his girlfriend called his wife by mistake. I no longer need to attend church under anyone telling me how to live and fund their who knows what.

[@edamame-hime]

oh my goodness! I am so sorry to read this.

[@tromboneman4517]

I’m sorry you have had such horrible experiences with church. The church should NOT be like this!

[@crimsonfire6932]

As important and valuable as it is to go to church, don’t forget that fundamentally your relationship with God is direct and personal and other people have no right having undue influence over it.

[@markwarne5049]

Not all pastors are like this

[@beatriicks]

Sounds like you’re aching for Catholicism

[@iancraig3020]

Every Christian has this problem: we look at the other guys sin as greater than our own. Instead we need to grieve over our own sin and repent of it daily. Jesus referred to the “log” in our own eye-once you have dealt with that, then maybe, you can see well enough to help your brother with a “spec” in his eye. Matthew 7:5

[@kellyh5304]

Thank you for making this video. This is so heartbreaking. 😢💔

[@mytreasuredcreations]

Ally, you're such a blessing to the body of Christ. Thank you for being so clearly biblical.

[@Steppingheavnward]

Thank you for making this video, Allie! My husband and I went to Steve Lawson’s Reformation conference last year at Trinity Bible Church. His wife and daughter were there serving people and seemed so friendly. My heart is broken for them and I am devastated over the hypocrisy of Lawson.

[@1Whipperin]

All Ligonier doctors, pastors, and ministers should begin showing true repentance by forsaking their titles and positions of authority among the brethren. Titles like "Pastor" or "Doctor" elevate individuals and create divisions within the body of Christ, contrary to Jesus' teaching that we are all equal under God (Matthew 23:8-12). True repentance means humbling themselves, rejecting worldly status, and embracing the servant-leadership modeled by Christ. It's time for these leaders to abandon titles and restore humility, accountability, and equality within the church. Only then can the body of Christ function as it was intended-without hierarchy or power plays.

[@BaerBerian]

@@1Whipperin Bishops, elders and pastors are biblical.

[@1Whipperin]

@BaerBerian They are Biblical functions, but they are not titles .

[@pearlyq3560]

@@BaerBerian Bishop? Not to my memory. It is only elder and deacon.

[@pearlyq3560]

@@1Whipperin Yes they are titles for the positions, they are nouns and you can't avoid using the titles of elder and deacon because they are distinct positions, but I know what you're saying and I actually agree with the spirit of what you are saying and think it's worth exploring and perhaps doing.

[@Tracy-vx3nv]

I don’t trust any body who makes merchandise of God and His word. Books, bibles, bible versions, conferences, gatherings, studies, t-shirts, mugs, or any items geared for Christians. All these famous so called pastors/preachers are idolized and oftentimes rich. Could you image Paul charging any church for his epistles or teachings? 2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

[@lisaberchtold2248]

Me too. Never would money and bookstores and conferences be part of Jesus or Paul or Peter...Judas fell for money and it was a bad ending. Business has taken over church

[@carolvanrooyen2729]

@@lisaberchtold2248 it e as I agree… and very very sad but God will deal with them👍🏼

[@lisaberchtold2248]

@@carolvanrooyen2729 Yes. Sad. I know many can fall for greed but it does not excuse sin and Jesus was very upset to see His house of prayer a robbers den and a den of iniquity. True repentance is needed as King David had with Bathsheaba (sp?) But I don't see that in Lawson. He was caught and it is so so sad. God bless

[@MrJones-tv9wf]

@@lisaberchtold2248 Yes, but Judas never believed.

[@eeg0415]

I watched some YT vids but this one expressed expressed exactly what I was feeling. Thank you. This was so so good. Prayers for Steve Lawson, his wife, children and the church there in Dallas. May God give us all strength to overcome evil & temptation, give us wisdom & discernment, grace & mercy. New sub here. Much Love from Crete, Greece 🇬🇷

[@andyheller2691]

I have followed and supported Steve Lawson for several years and learned much from him. While he’s still just another person, I was shocked to have learned what happened. He was the last person I ever expected this to happen to. While I pray for him and his family, his public ministry is over. To stumble at the finish line is so tragic. At 73, there is no time for a comeback and that’s even if there should be one. I pulled out all his books that I have and I skimmed through them last night. All I felt was sadness. Yes, I plan on keeping them for the teaching was good teaching. It’s sad he didn’t pay attention to his own teaching. The word hypocrisy is what will come into play. He lost his credibility and testimony. He impacted a lot of people with his teachings in several ministries. I don’t hate Steve Lawson. I pray for him and his repentance and redemption. In all honesty, I would like to sit down with him and pray, and to talk about things. He’s a fallen brother. I know from experience what life is like is his home right now. I’m really saddened by it all.

[@christianuniversalist]

He was a very poor theologian at best.

[@SarahNelsonWA]

“To stumble at the finish line is so tragic.” That reminds me of Moses. He obeyed and led God’s people out of slavery, but he disobeyed at the finish line. He saw the Promised Land from afar but did not enter in.

[@lizajane2971]

One correction - this didn't "happen to" him! Your words made it seem like it was something out of his control like being hit by a bus. He committed a series of sins and lies. He is responsible for those decisions.

[@andyheller2691]

@@lizajane2971 When those words were used it was in generalizing that this was something I never expected to be in this persons life. In rational thought if I won or was given or made a billion dollars you wouldn’t expect me to file bankruptcy. Perhaps better phrasing as you point out could have been made, but I think you got the jist of the original phrasing. You are correct on your comments on bad decisions. Each of us is only as good as our last choice.

[@susanmcconkey5219]

So well said Allie! I totally agree with everything you surmised from the situation and I haven't heard this side presented anywhere else. It's absolutely tragic, and so hard to really understand. I pray for his poor wife and family. Im sorry......but he should have been beyond this temptation.

[@valeriemckenna1]

This is heartbreaking he's a solid teacher but even solid men can fall. I sure hope he repents and is restored to the body. Thank you for your show Allie... this was a gut punch.

[@tomroberts9794]

I disagree that this man is 'solid' in any respect. He's a false teacher and should not be excused; forgiven but not excused.

[@tinebino]

This was once again a great episode, you always manage to bring hope in difficult circumstances like this ♥

[@Morgans-life-yes]

I can feel your pain in every word you spoke. Praying for you and all the other followers who were impacted by this. 🙏🏼

[@TexasHoosier3118]

I believe that when somebody in the ministry messes up bad, that the person should not be allowed into ministry again.

[@sammichaels3196]

The Scriptures say as much. Your belief is right! Man, I'm bummed.

[@kareemmance5845]

For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory. Let him without sin cast the first stone.

[@sammichaels3196]

​​@@kareemmance5845 It's easy to quote Scripture, but studying it (and rightly dividing it) takes time. God's Word clearly states that a man cannot Shepard a church after such a disgrace. Believing in God's Word and applying His Word to real-life situations is not "throwing stones".

[@ZWAYTOLIFE]

@@sammichaels3196where does it say a man can’t be restored after a sufficient restoration period?

[@lesterchua2677]

@@sammichaels3196Agreed. Anyone who fell can still serve as a humble servant without holding leadership position or preaching.

[@ellie123hymes]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you for the statements about David! You are articulating what I've felt in my heart. Yes, deception and hypocrisy! This is more serious than what people think. Thanks Allie! I just found you! Such a huge ripple effect!!

[@browneagle2393]

Thank you.....praying for this family...and the flock.

[@johnlewis1078]

Your insight is very accurate, Ms Allie: the wording of the apology is very telling about a person's stance on what happened. Thank you for another great episode!

[@scenicrouteart]

Best I’ve heard on this issue. Thank you so much.

[@MrsCreole]

Allie! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this response. It is spot on 🙌 You are out here putting so many male bloggers and youtubers to shame for their responses 👏 As disappointed as I was to see the news about Lawson, I've honestly been just as let down by the majority of responses I've seen.

[@toonybrain]

This is surely sad news. You’re absolutely right: stunning. Last person we’d ever predict. Indeed, the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. Finishing his life in ignominy. Unfortunately, this will become his legacy; This is how he’ll be remembered.

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

His hypocrisy is doing nothing to my faith but reminding me that men are fallible and every preacher is vulnerable to sin, specially sexual sin, David, Solomon, Samson, is any preacher godlier, wiser and stronger than those men? I pray for his repentance and soul restoration, I am grateful to his teaching and I love him as my brother in Christ

[@lyndaallaby2131]

Thank you for your post. Fallen pastors never affect my faith in Christ, because David was a "man after God's own heart", and he caused Bathsheba's husband to be murdered, in order to marry her! So far no pastor has gone THAT far - at least, not yet! It STILL amazes me to tears, that Christ loves us sooo much, that we can spend eternity with him, by asking him into our hearts! Let God deal with fallen pastors - Christians need to keep spreading the love of Christ to those who will listen! John 3: 16-17 "Even so, come Lord Jesus!" 🎺

[@dmb1906]

"The elder MUST BE ABOVE REPROACH"

[@theforeigner6988]

This tells me personally I can not toy with sin... It's way to strong , if it can take down even so great man of God , like Steve Lawson.

[@happymamaof5803]

I’m very sad about this whole situation. Thank you for this thoughtful analysis. I’m currently facilitating a women’s Bible study at my church where we are using one of Dr Lawson’s video series from Ligonier. Our session will be meeting to discuss whether or not we should continue the study. Very sad.

[@taebrown384]

Why wouldn’t you continue the study?? Do you think Lawson isnt a christian anymore??

[@jamestoo1517]

Great job Alley , this hurt the witness of the true church of Jesus Christ. We all mourn together over Dr. Lawson

[@alexvolosin3562]

This should be a good lesson for reformed crowd not to get too prideful. Even those with good theology fall into sin.

[@kevinjypiter6445]

Doesn't reformed theology (Steve Lawson, Sproul, etc) teach we have no free will? Is it only the will of God we are compelled to follow? So I don't think it was Steve Lawson's fault per se, but rather he is following the immutable will of god

[@JP-ec9rl]

It's horse manure theology. Lawson lost what he never had to begin with. He lost what nobody in the history of anybody has ever had ... Their own righteousness. It doesn't exist. Nobody has ever had it. There is only God's righteousness.

[@johnpiercy7162]

How come we judge this man So Harshly but we don't King David?? David was a man after God's own heart, 1 Samuel 13:14 and Acts 13:22. Why do we have to be part of this man's destruction??

[@josephpimentel9451]

I’m shocked by this terrible news. Thanks for your great word on this terrible situation 🙏

[@JesusisGod75]

That’s why I would never in my right mind marry someone who was a pastor or in ministry. They have too much emotional access to women.

[@helena.guzman4451]

Thank you so much for pointing out the David example. It definitely feels like a minimization of the gravity of the situation. Honestly, I think that celebrity culture is also an issue in reformed circles. It is unfortunate. We tend to be a bit more severe in examining people of a different camp, and more lenient with the failings of the people in our own camp. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAIRNESS. So refreshing

[@bridgetgolubinski]

Yes I’m so glad she talked about the David example! Especially when it’s so many people’s first response, definitely feels like downplaying wrongdoing!

[@markwarne5049]

I let sexual sin destroy my life and relationship with God and people ,the repercussions have been very destructive and far reaching and ive never even been a pastor.

[@valeriesjourney17]

Heartbreaking. Your commentary brings forth some good food for thought. Thank you. 🦋👩‍🦰

[@banana03]

We have a pastor had committed adultery in our church with a gay man and he is married to a woman and one son, he was keep on preaching in our church until his wife told our head conference office, he betrayed our trust and now he left his wife to be with this man. temptation is far to great, we have to be connected to God and His Holy Spirit.

[@kate_700]

I used to listen to Steve Lawson and his series of podcasts weekly. About a year ago, I was listening to his most recent sermon and I was immediately disgusted by a remark he made to a mother in his congregation. In the middle of his sermon, he abruptly stopped and said, "Can we remove the children, please? It sounds like we have a whole nursery in the back." As a mother with young children, I was disgusted by this. I understand young children in the church can be very distracting but wow, there are so many other ways to go about this. If that was me, I would have been mortified and never would of returned - feeling as if my children were not welcomed. I stopped listening to him immediately. I'm shocked to hear this news about him, though.

[@Lyn-qy2nc]

In our church, children are welcome, even crying kids during worship, are life sounds

[@dawsonmarshall7323]

Jesus says, “let the children come.” He rebuked his disciples sharply for hindering children 😭 so sad to hear! Weirdly, about a year ago, a pastor at my church said he would not encourage a young man to imitate Steve Lawson…I didn’t fully agree at first, but now it feels almost prophetic. God bless you, miss.

[@Yesica1993]

That's irrelevant to this issue. If babies/children are screaming to the point where people can't hear and the speaker needs to shout to be heard, the parents need to take them out of the auditorium until they settle down.

[@g.spyracheak3943]

This story is part of the reason our family converted to Orthodox Christianity. During services, every stitch of clothing our priests wear symbolize their role in the parish, in The Church, etc. They even wear a stole around their neck (the translation for this piece of clothing from the original Greek is literally “The Thing Around The Neck” 😆) . Anyway, this stole has fringe at the bottom and that fringe is meant to symbolize the souls of the congregation the priest leads. It’s a constant reminder of the burden priests carry to properly shepherd their flock. Most Orthodox priests (and their wives for that matter) are VERY humble, sweet, loving, GOOD men. Our priest is the most humble man I’ve ever met and his wife is so authentic and lovely. I personally truly found Christ in the Orthodox Church. I’m experiencing the Christian faith WAY different than I did as a Protestant. Glory to God! ☦️☦️☦️

[@reetayoung]

Praying for all the ladies at share the arrows

[@MaxvanBrian]

Amen Allie! Thank you for sharing such important information

[@kelza83]

I just want to make the comment that I am absolutely so thankful for your beautiful approach to this. I love that you are considering all things, are approaching it with love, even though it’s really clear that you’re devastated by the news. Thank you for being a great role model to women around the world.

[@lisaengel89]

So disheartening!! 😩 Praying he repents. He’s done with ministry though.

[@alrinaleroux9229]

Absolutely.

[@keyahkeron]

The IDOLATRY of Pastors is being EXPOSED. Jesus is LORD, and NOT ANY Pastor. We must KEEP our EYES on Jesus ALONE!!!

[@InHisGrace33]

Not to mention that he is a false teacher, teaching false doctrine AND also, idolized. Just like macArthur is. They have a form of godliness, but deny the power. The saddest part is how many people they have fooled. 💔😖

[@KENNETHBROCKETT-y6w]

Please consider not saying, "Oh my gosh, because it's an imitation of using the Lord's name in vain..... it's like the cleaner way of saying, "Oh my God which we shouldn't say and of course I know you know this stuff .... I really enjoy your show because you love the truth like I do, you represent Christianity very well and your knowledge is up there where it needs to be to be in the public eye ... I appreciate you and God bless you

[@elayneheikes5534]

Thank you for sharing from your heart! 📖🙏

[@jamescalcandis1625]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, GRACE AND SENSITIVITY IN YOUR SHARING....AND ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE. BLESSINGS AND KEEP SHINING HIS BEAUTY IN YOU....AND DIVINE LOVE 🌅

[@jackimanley3056]

My husband always says he only trusts the dead theologians. It's so hard not to get so disappointed. My dad is a pastor, my husband is a pastor. I just don't understand why so many fall. It's so sad.

[@juanc.feliciano9507]

Hey, most of the books that I have is from old theologians and scholars. I don't really have much from living theologians.

[@oscarfabi_]

Wise decision, as a 21 year old, that’s all I read. Because I know my own sins and failures, that Christ has atoned for

[@jonathandavid9720]

…Except for Calvin

[@LanLe-rz4lm]

How did he fall? What did he do? We don’t know.

[@myparallaxview]

My dad had a music ministry, somewhat famous in the day (you prob never heard of him unless you knew Paul Rader Jr of the tabernacle in Minneapolis MN - he sang there and on the radio). But so confusing to me as his daughter bc not only did he have affairs, but he also did so much "spirit writing" that our house became haunted and we had to get an exorcist after he left. It left me so spiritually confused. Even to this day I pretty much assume that any Christian with a large following is a fake.

[@CarrieLaffs]

Yes Good Point .... I think God has revealed this in order to shine the light that these traveling , popular preachers need to remember that the local Church is their first and foremost responsibility.

[@dwainewhitley2227]

I really appreciate Allie's comments and reflections. Scripturally and respectfully done.....DW.

[@tomvoigt6678]

Allie, thank you for sharing with insight, discernment and great wisdom. As a Presbyterian pastor for 30 + years, I was "Amen-ing" you throughout this video. (Yes ... more Presbyterians should Amen!) May God continue to bless you and I'm praying that you would be protected every day! Keep the faith, Sister!

[@margiebuchanan8676]

I haven't as a senior and alone , don't feel I have had a real Shepard that cares about me , even when I have been very involved in helping at church. I'm at a new church. almost a year, pastor has said hello to me twice..love Jesus, he is my father❤

[@marlak1104]

That's very disheartening.