Steve Parish on The Current State of Football, Super League, Man City Charges, & More | The Overlap

Welcome to a brand-new episode of The Overlap, brought to you by Sky Bet, where we are joined by Crystal Palace owner Steve Parish for the final instalment of our visit to the club.
Get ready for a passionate discussion about the current state of English football and the complexities of running a football club.
No stone is left unturned as we delve into some of the most pressing topics in football. First on the agenda, is the contentious subject of Project Big Picture where he shares his thoughts on the controversial proposal that aimed to restructure English football.
Steve offers us a fascinating glimpse into the world of Crystal Palace. He sheds light on the challenges and rewards that come with being at the helm of a Premier League club. He also speaks about Aleksander Čeferin the President of UEFA and how football organisations like his are affecting the future of the game for clubs like Palace.
We couldn't ignore the proposed European Super League that sent shockwaves through the entire footballing world. Steve offers his take on this seismic event and provides an unique perspective on the ramifications it would have had on the footballing landscape.
One of the most significant debates in English football revolves around the financial gap between the so-called "big clubs" and the rest of the Premier League. Steve shares his views and sheds light on the impact this has on the league and the clubs that operate outside the elite.
The EFL is a vital component of the football pyramid and has faced its fair share of financial challenges. Steve advocates for the Premier League to step up and support the lower divisions, emphasising the importance of fairness in football at all levels.
Finally, we tackle Manchester City's Premier League charges and the consequence these allegations have on City from an owner’s perspective.
Join us for this brilliant conversation covering the big topics that affect everyone in football.
00:00 - 03:22 Project Big Picture
03:22 - 10:54 European Super League & Ceferin
10:05 -15.21 The Premier League & EFL and regulation
15.21 - 27:28 How money is distributed between the leagues
27:28 - 29:04 Man City charges
29:04 - 33:30 How will a regulator help teams like Palace
33:30 - 36:40 Conclusion
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[@garethwilliams2897]

Fair play to Steve for giving us much more of an insight of the football landscape.

[@micgreenson7308]

Fair play for truth 😅 that business is evil end of

[@RobWhit91]

Steve has come across very very well in the two pieces he’s appeared in. If you’re a Palace fan you’d feel comfortable whatever decisions are being made.

[@Podge09]

Absolutely love this series, and what a bloke Steve appears to be. Refreshing to see the owner of a club at any level be as transparent as he is. Just gutted it finished so soon 😂

[@unimportantnobody8364]

I thought the same, could’ve listened to another hour of them chatting away lol.

[@TopCodMovies]

As a palace fan I’m super proud we have Steve representing us. First and foremost he’s a palace fan so he has the club at the front of his heart, second of all he’s an extremely savvy business man that knows exactly how our clubs needs running! Third and lastly he seems to know exactly what steps our football pyramid needs to progress in the correct direct. Class from Steve providing us ‘fans’ with this beautiful insight 🙌🏽

[@TobyLerone-yn3rr]

Steve Parish is a brilliant owner and the insight he's gave us into what happens behind the scenes is great

[@rwb_gary6355]

As a Manchester United fan, it’s extremely refreshing to see an owner who is willing to sit down and talk so openly about life as a club owner and be so transparent. Great interview 🙏🏼☘️

[@og87]

He’s not really though because he wants to be United that’s why he doesn’t want to stop them spending and he knows he will get the crumbs they drop. Watch someone spend 100m on Eze or olise soon that’s why.

[@petershortland478]

​@og87 thing is tho Palace have to sell to keep the club going, clubs are not cheap to win, Parish may have alot of money but he isn't loaded like the saudis

[@cameronharding1676]

Wow. Steve Parish comes across a top top bloke and amongst a nation with constant bad owners and clubs going down the pan due to this, to see and listen to Steve is refreshing. So happy for palace fans that there great club is in such responsible and safe hands. Need more people like this running clubs in the sport. 🤝

[@dutchmilk]

like the glazers? or is it exclusive to skin tone?

[@daniel4224]

Great interview, possibly the best of the whole Overlap series. I think Steve exposed a lot of Gary's naivety around certain areas though.

[@leemarks6622]

Great open discussion, thanks to Steve for the interview

[@user-uz3qf6fn9m]

Steve correcting Gary in his calm manner is gold

[@mattthomas5989]

Steve is just so much smarter than Gary. Gary’s heart is in the right place but he’s just not very bright unfortunately.

[@kc8923]

@@mattthomas5989 Not sure thats true. There are many forms of intelligence and Gary has been very successful in a number of different fields, sportsman, businessman, analyst and podcaster etc. I think he shows a lot of empathy and social awareness for someone who's been so successful.

[@HaroldBolton-xs9vd]

​@@kc8923it's easy to make money when you're a new businessman millionaire . The risk is far less and failure has no effect on his livelihood. He failed in a few of his businesses which would have sent a normal person bankrupt and out of business. Plus a lot of his business is property, which is the most basic, common, easiest and one of the safest ways for rich people to make money. It's not as if he invented the iPhone or ChatGPT or solved a problem with a novel solution.

[@AlexaandSnowy228]

I love Steve Parish as the Chairman of my football club, but he also is a football man, and I love that he fights for what is or should be a competitive competition. We don’t want the richest teams to win everything, we want to know that we can beat those teams to give the hope that you can achieve. That’s why even though Brighton are our rivals, I am happy of what they achieved this year and will play in Europe. Because that is what we of the smaller teams want to achieve. That day in the sun

[@declanshanahan3888]

@@mattthomas5989 Not very bright? The evidence would suggest otherwise.

[@olavjorvik94]

Hope this legend has turned many other owners positive to talking to to Gary now. What a lovely chap. Amazing content. I Love this! And I know Gary does too.

[@jackthemac132]

Excellent interview -- I have a lot of respect for Gary Neville, he's done a lot to bring attention to how the Premier League is structured and it's been a long time coming since they did the bad thing in 92 -- massive respect for keeping these topics at the forefront of our collective minds

[@jokedejojo]

And he was from the Class of 92 by coincidence.

[@neilshirley]

What a fantastic interview / chat. Really enjoyed watching this, probably more so than anything I have watched or read about football in the past 5 years. Please keep these types of interviews going, they are brilliant. Oh, and Steve Parish is great, loved listening to his views and how balanced he seemed.

[@kc8923]

Intelligent, articulate and well balanced viewpoint. Desperately needed in English football.

[@harryhearn4403]

Never really heard too much in steves thoughts and opinions before, this is incredible. He is a chairman who is pure football. This man in a gem for the league and clearly needs more of a input. Great content and alot of freedom within the discussion.

[@TG-it8zt]

Steve is absolutely spot on with Gary's silly 'independent regulator' nonsense, you're giving the power to have a say on the biggest league in the biggest sport in the world - to unelected individuals who have their own biases and agendas, can be lobbied to and would ultimately just become as corrupt as the PL, UEFA FIFA.

[@Timmeh551]

Spot on sir !!!

[@trevorjoneill707]

UEFA and FIFA are already corrupt, so nothing new there

[@andymay8887]

Wish MUFC had someone like Steve in a position of authority . . . top bloke 👏🏻👏🏻

[@motto445]

Proper owner, need more like him across the whole game

[@nicholowski4766]

Exceptional content. This sort of transparency goes a long way in building relationships between fans and clubs.

[@sufirodger]

You can tell he’s a fan who cares about palace first obviously… but he also clearly cares about the game in itself.

[@rhyshowcutt7407]

seems a GENUINE nice chap and great owner to have…

[@hellohi1445]

Could we some interviews with either the Brentford or Brighton owners? Cause right now they’re the two best run clubs in the premier league.

[@Warp75]

Great shout ☝🏻

[@Timmeh551]

Yep … punching far above their weight … Magnificent ✊

[@Adamm357]

Gary goes on and on about the gap getting bigger and how we need to keep the league competitive. It's all about working smartly. Luton or Coventry will be in the Prem next season. All 3 promoted clubs have avoided relegation. It's been one of the most competitive seasons for ages.

[@jordanhollas249]

Was thinking the exact same thing, Brighton in Europe, west ham maybe winning a European competition whilst having an average season, Newcastle in top 4 with the squad they’ve got is crazy too. Everyone just getting bored of city 😂😂

[@ThexMJT]

The league is extremely competitive except for the league winner (teams challenge and fall off then city win it again)

[@kc8923]

Its not really competitive in the sense of all teams having an equal chance. Spurs and Chelsea in meltdown over not making CL and teams like mine, Forest, delirious after avoiding relegation!

[@kriscontents3248]

@@ThexMJT as a man city fan I see the premier league as the most competitive league..despite who owner is..we show a big difference in the system.. a manager like pep change the whole dynamic of English football while developing simple players into world class status is magnificent and that allows us winning the league next and probably the season after.. now if we weren't winning any trophies then the whole league and fan base of other clubs would torture us with statement being an oil money club n cant provide good players..still either way we'll always be that club.. And on top of that other clubs have adopted pep style of playing.. now I get what Gary is saying giving what the top clubs have done over the years n it would cool if they could somewhat help out any enemy club like those in championship to get a little boost to fight to join the premier league..that would be a great idea but would it be fair if when they get that boost and other clubs are failing to get promoted?

[@johnarneriise8510]

@@kc8923 exactly mate

[@s0phom0rejinx]

SP is forthright and genuine when he speaks about stuff like this - he's also careful not to offend the big clubs and offer a balanced (or, you could argue weighted) viewpoint when it comes to the big clubs. The truth of it is that 20 odd years ago a cabal of clubs sought to enrich themselves and the game has been out of kilter since. Great product though, hey?

[@Timmeh551]

Indubitably!!!!

[@sheepy2574]

Could listen to this guy all day … knows he’s stuff

[@Forestgravy90]

his

[@sheepy2574]

@@Forestgravy90 thank you teacher

[@Forestgravy90]

@@sheepy2574 It's extremely basic English so you are very welcome.

[@tommarino69]

Would love to see gary talk with Wes Edens & Nassef Sawiris and discuss Villa and the ambitions of the club under Unai Emery. Steve Parish comes across as a genuine positive force for football in this interview, pity there aren't more characters like him around the game. 👏🏻👏🏻

[@seanm89]

That was brilliant. Fair play to both

[@thatitladi9650]

Thoroughly enjoyed this discussion. Very insightful and cuts right down the middle. Loved it

[@SI-lb9xx]

Really interesting debate, What a refreshing owner he is, very open and honest. If only club had a Steve Parish.

[@Gaza-cl6no]

Brilliant episode, could have sat listening to Steve & Gary for hours Has really opened my eyes on the issues and now will be cheering on Palace lol

[@tommyt3687]

Great interview and insight! The content from Gary and the whole overlap team is top tier

[@owenwood8385]

A great interview, Gary. You're questions are very insightful whilst always allowing for a full response which is so nice as opposed to almost having a debate. Keep up the great content!

[@neilsamuels535]

There is no coincidence that in recent years Crystal Palace have been quite successful in their premier league status when this guy is in control and leading the club. This was very informative and he speaks common sense and comes across as honest and trustworthy.

[@AlexaandSnowy228]

He is a football fan and a Palace first and foremost. As he says he is a custodian and I think he only has Palaces best interest at heart. Since 2010 we have a chairman who cares. Ron Noades I think took what he could. Steve has tried to do what is best for the club, not over spending, but slowly trying to build a club. The academy is doing amazing u18s and u21s ripping it up, so the future is bright because of his stewardship

[@joshuaworden274]

This has been a really fantastic series. Roy was always going to be a great subject because of his long history in the game, but I've been really impressed by Parrish as well.

[@gitfitz2028]

Don't know much about parish but he came across very well great interview .

[@shafaatoo9328]

Can't wait to watch. Love seeing this side of the game

[@markturnbull4465]

Another Great Interview. How about scrapping agents fees and making the players fund the agent who is looking out for their bests interests. That would free up a barrel load of dosh to share with the lower leagues.

[@SCW_Fitness]

The agents would just negotiate higher wages and sign on fees for their players who would then pay them a bonus.

[@melissavasquez2974]

Really enjoyed this, thanks. So much insight and it's reassuring to see there are good people running clubs

[@alexblanchard120]

Proper owner - and has the balls to speak about the difficult subjects

[@BrianAlex71]

Great to see Vince Hilaire in the background!

[@chettriyuvraj]

I'm not so sure all owners are similar but the amount of tact and level-headedness Steve Parish is speaking with - especially juxtaposed with Gary Neville's seemingly undercooked opinion (speaking when you have to say something, rather than when you have something to say) - gives such a fascinating glimpse into what it takes to sit at the big tables Steve occupies. He bloody well deserves his seat there if he walks half the things he's talked about here. Great interview!

[@hudsontv2379]

As a Newcastle fan I'd like to think our owners are as passionate to help keep the Premier league fair and to help the other leagues. 3mil is nothing to pass on extra. But it will go along way. What a bloke Parish is. I loved this episode. Keep up the great work Gary

[@mtreezee2072]

lol

[@hsingh630]

Fantastic insight into the premier league club ownership and the current state of English & Welsh football, more owners & chairman need to do this.

[@dinzehhh]

have to say i enjoyed listening to steve give his insight, brilliant episode

[@markwhite1213]

Great interview. You should turn this into a weekly slot!

[@anilpatel5877]

Great content. Would love to see other owners and key stakeholders come out and do these kind of interviews…

[@jea450]

What a fantastic representation of how a Premier League owner should act. Steve, you speak brilliantly & I wish you all the success.

[@leeadam2484]

Top Top guy I was glued to this interview, more from Steve parish please

[@dilligaf7486]

Brilliant interview. Fair play to Steve, very insightful. I think Palace are in good hands with him at the helm.

[@alimd79]

Best overlap yet, keeping the debate going is the only way to achieve change.

[@DEKINSPORT]

what a fantastic interview. i hope the content creators that orbit the Premier League take a very careful look at this, and try their best to bring content to their creation. 👑⚽️

[@mnb9162]

I'd happily sit in a Prem meeting with owners like Parish.... The great thing about genuinely successful businessman is that they are often very objective... So you can get things done without emotion.... (Gary is a bit more emotional, I could imagine he would be very difficult if he dislikes you for some reason)..

[@bowenflob8036]

Thanks for this, great discussion

[@paulbhogal]

Best episode need more interviews with people who run the club and the business side of football ⚽️

[@robertryan6782]

'Best episode' - you listened to it all in 5 minutes?

[@united9935]

​@@robertryan6782 exactly, internets full of drips like him sadly

[@paulbhogal]

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[@paulbhogal]

@@united9935 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKCxopednJ2mnpY 🤫

[@robertryan6782]

Yeah, different interview to the walkabout at the training ground.

[@pduce89]

Gary Neville is an amazing interviewer. He asks specific questions and knows what he is talking about. Absolutely fantastic work!

[@murdotch2484]

As a Spurs fan, I wish this man was our owner. So transparent, respectable and personable unlike Daniel Levy.

[@funkymonkey65]

Yes, that would be an interesting interview, I have never seen him give an interview

[@Warp75]

Funny what Mourinho said about Levy yesterday. Says it all

[@x92Vendetta]

As a Juve fan, it is the history of the Tottenham 😂

[@Warp75]

@@x92Vendetta What Juve the most corrupt football club in Italy. If I was you I’d keep quiet

[@x92Vendetta]

@@Warp75 all football is corrupt. Juve is just hated in Italy, no proof has been released of Juve corruption (even in 2006). you keep believing the news mate. Instead look at barca, city, Everton ect

[@kevinstephenson9887]

Gary Steve Parish is a good spokes man for the efl & the Premier League he also Very intelligent owner also very honest.

[@lorinsmith9898]

I have hair envious of Steve’s Barnet!

[@MrTompahallam]

Wish I was a palace fan after listening to that. Great bloke

[@daveyfunk]

This guy seems great for football and it appears Crystal Palace are in good hands. With we had this transparency with Levy at Spurs

[@dannyrobinson6416]

Brilliant great interview and insight

[@aquine3130]

I'd like to have heard more of what Steve had to say in response to the questions. Gary has very clear points of view and they arent wrong, but he interrupted Steve a lot to vocalise them again and again. Think some quite insightful answers and viewpoints were cut off as a result.

[@MrNiuj]

Fair play. Great work.

[@MichaelWilson-eg1yk]

Seems a honest top guy

[@GameyyP]

Brilliant interview and good insight! However I would be interested to know exactly what Steve would do and what he wants for the PL. To much discussion about what everyone else is doing and not what he wants.

[@andypalin3287]

Steve is a great example of a model owner! An actual fan who is prepared to express his opinions! 😀

[@pendafen7405]

Interesting and articulate chap, Steve. That said, it did feel like he was struggling not to speak at cross purposes with Gary, who seemed wilfully to be misunderstanding or going on tangents.

[@elontusk3572]

This guy seem very fair, talks from every clubs perspective be it top or lower level

[@unimportantnobody8364]

I don’t know much about Steve Parish I must admit, he comes across really well in this and I just hope he is as genuine as he comes across in this and it isn’t/wasn’t just for the cameras. Great watch again Gary.

[@amlina23]

Fascinating insight from Steve!

[@djcrossie]

Listening to Steve speak I wish he was in charge of my club

[@amybillz]

Great interview !

[@TheOverlap]

Thanks! 👏

[@FMGilly]

Great interview and great insights and hopefully we can get more interviews with owners going forward. What had only been mentioned briefly when talking about the money to be distributed to the EFL, is that it should come with restrictions like x percentage needs to be spent on infrastructure. Look at Wigan, Bolton, Charlton to name a few. Your telling me the EFL want to distribute funds willy nilly to clubs without restrictions in place. The current or previous owners of those clubs would suck the money up and do a runner like they have done already. Increase the percentage the premier league but it rightly needs conditions. Shame Gary kept looping back to the Super League instead of putting the EFL on blast for allowing dodgy owners into our pyramid.

[@francishargreaves2475]

What a guy. Meanwhile us blues are stuck with Bill 'Mr Everton' Kenwright Fantastic podcast. UTFT x

[@ethanedwards2847]

Solid from Steve he knows why the game is beautiful

[@michaelhoare5291]

As compelling as it was refreshing. A genuine football club owner. Who's next? I guess the ones we really want to hear from are otherwise occupied at the shredder.

[@flyoverfredusa]

A sensible owner, can we have more of those please

[@user-or5qs1ib5o]

I like the overlap but in this Gary constantly interrupted before Steve could finish his point. I know Gary’s point and as a L2 fan I totally get it. However it would have been a much better interview had we been allowed to hear Steve points and insights in full, and then Gary challenge it, rather than constantly cut him off to push his own point of view.

[@robertryan6782]

Gary has certainly got his monies worth out of Crystal Palace!

[@robertryan6782]

By no means a criticism, something my wee Granny would say/have said! 😍

[@peppermsaltzman]

Steve has got great hair

[@avs040288]

Steve Parish Bravo! CP is now my 2nd team!

[@davidcross4586]

When an owner is a fan and saves a club then wants to look after it but be a realist aswell you won’t find many of these around full respect to Steve

[@kennydeary957]

Brilliant debate

[@degaz1]

Steve has really got his head screwed on. Great listening to him

[@mujeebahmed7940]

Steve parish is a good man

[@Jimbobmcracken]

You can totally see why this man has been more successful than Simon Jordan was.

[@bspark119]

There should be a levy on the transfer market and wages, where the money trickles down to the lower leagues. On the flip side, academy output should be incentivised.

[@bencarlson772]

When’s the cork episode out

[@worldclass1401]

Next interview city's owner or chairman

[@PlaguedDinosaur]

If they want more money to filter down the league, why don’t they tell the teams that 20 players of their 25 man squad must be British, and 15 must be English. They’ll have to dip into the domestic leagues for players. Then add a wage cap on all players and a transfer levy on foreign transfers.

[@jamespye2936]

first time i felt like gary was out of his depth and maybe parish was just wayy more knowledgable.

[@declanshanahan3888]

How was he out of his depth? He's interviewing the bloke looking for an insight from a premier league owner. He's not trying to trip the bloke up like a Paxman

[@basilfawlty8244]

Football needs more like Steve Parish. What city are doing isn't football, it's sportswashing. Same with Newcastle. Many footy supporters that I know, have FAR more respect for Palace (& Brentford, Brighton etc) than they do for city.

[@deburgh007]

An owner with common sense. Really good interview

[@lukemccabe3]

Adverts every 5mins is ruining this interview. Such good quality but stop start ruins it

[@hatefulwaffler6822]

Arthur Shelby doing bits 👊

[@phil2696]

Everyone wants a decent owner like Steve Parish. Palace are in safe hands.

[@johnnorthwood]

I like Steve Parish! #justsayin

[@Crim1995]

Think vids like this and sportspeople we don't hear much of in main stream media are more interesting than the questions with sports people who are in the limelight

[@united9935]

Feel like this is going to be a good one

[@pendafen7405]

You have to feel for Jamie Carragher. He has to hear this kind of thing constantly as pillow talk.

[@nickjones3900]

Would have been nice to hear more of Parish. Neville constantly interjecting.