Steven Universe Discussion: Storyboarding on Steven Universe

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It's Rebecca Rose

It's Rebecca Rose

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@gustavovillegas5909
@gustavovillegas5909 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at these drastic changes, my animation teacher would have a seizure
@Inkblotchy
@Inkblotchy 6 жыл бұрын
As someone graduating in Character Animation this year with a focus in storyboarding..... oof It's fine if people enjoy the show regardless of character inconsistency, but you can tell when an amateur is speaking on this sort of subject compared to someone on this career path or in the industry.
@kidd9936
@kidd9936 6 жыл бұрын
Inkblotchy based on that. What's your opinion? I'm headed down the same career path so it's neat to see other student's thoughts
@Inkblotchy
@Inkblotchy 6 жыл бұрын
Hey awesome to hear! And opinion on what? This choice in storyboard artist freedom or my opinion of this career path?
@amberhawksong
@amberhawksong 6 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Villegas rolf
@isaacgray2909
@isaacgray2909 6 жыл бұрын
The thing that pisses me off is that many fans would defend this by saying it's mistakes or its their styles or some other excuses. Bullshit. As an animation student, this is beyond terrible. The main important job of doing animation is be consistent. You are assigned to draw a character design and draw them through animation sequence.
@whomilloo
@whomilloo 7 жыл бұрын
People are so thirsty for theories, like honestly, it's obvious that she's smaller because of the storyboarding. They don't give the characters specific heights.
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean I over analyze SU. That's literally my channel. But sometimes you gotta know when some theories are a stretch.
@whomilloo
@whomilloo 7 жыл бұрын
+Rose's Universe Yes, thank you. And your channel is perfect fine, btw👌🏼
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BlackHayateTheThird
@BlackHayateTheThird 7 жыл бұрын
Actually I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate/ understand/ consider the animation and labor side to these shows. Like people demanding Infinity Train to be made NOW don't consider it takes 2+ years (if greenly and made quickly) to air- and many take much longer. I appreciate Rose's Universe takes on things and often does her videos in a respectful manner while also being critical and adding her own opinion. What may be obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone (as made clear by the Infinity Train demands).
@aquaperi4848
@aquaperi4848 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the heights are pretty inconsistent. One shot Yellow Diamond is about four times bigger than pearl, the next she can hold TWO PEARLS on her fingers.
@s.t7282
@s.t7282 7 жыл бұрын
Giving freedom to your artists: Good. Having a Storyboard driven show: Fine. Allowing your crew to make very basic animation mistakes for the sake of "freedom": *Really not okay.*
@severre
@severre 6 жыл бұрын
S. T Yess we need more people like this. I don't mind the small differences in style that I can recognize but that's... a bit too much u know
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 6 жыл бұрын
SwordOfTheRebellion another way of saying it would be like slightly different eyes, noses, etc. :okay COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HEIGHTS: not okay. Lmaoo
@VampLovr54
@VampLovr54 6 жыл бұрын
Ruby half the time has no gem.
@JohnSmith-qz6xb
@JohnSmith-qz6xb 4 жыл бұрын
Nacho_ 2045 what
@fauteuil1046
@fauteuil1046 4 жыл бұрын
The video is precisely about how it isn't necessarily a mistake
@PandaHug11
@PandaHug11 6 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is the inconsistency is off putting and makes the product look lazy and unprofessional. I love this show and the crewniverse but it doesn’t mean they are free from criticism. Saying that the art variation is a form of freedom and expressionism for the artist just sounds like excuses for them not doing their job well.
@FreeAimDog
@FreeAimDog 6 жыл бұрын
RokioPanda yeah, the original designs were so much better. its like in billy and mandy when hos was first introduce, he had high quality model but when he became a main character he was dumb down in model with a weird flat chin. im talking about the guy with the deadly weapon hand and eye patch with orange hair.
@XWierdThingsHappenX
@XWierdThingsHappenX 6 жыл бұрын
RokioPanda I would honestly be fine with diffrent designs as long as the characters heights are consistent.
@yermamuwu6196
@yermamuwu6196 7 жыл бұрын
If different storyboard artists can't have "artistic freedom" without keeping some kind of structure in character design, they're not very good. I'm sorry, but it's basic knowledge in any art-driven media that style has to be kept consistent. Comics, cartoons etc. And SU isn't special, it still needs to be held to those standards.
@lanithehuman4963
@lanithehuman4963 6 жыл бұрын
EbonyTheNerd 01 *cough* RRAAAVVEENN *Cough*
@Chilla001
@Chilla001 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly SU fans will always have an excuse for the crews lazy practices.
@aysunr.6045
@aysunr.6045 6 жыл бұрын
chill  衛挨佳 honestly i feel like most fans of anything act like that. In their eyes their favorite show or game is "perfect" or like "the best". It's kinda childish but that's ok. Honestly i love SU for the storyline and all but i gotta admit that the consistency is shit and i feel like our dear little creator is a bit too much of a people pleaser regarding this. I feel like she forgot that this is her work. Do whatever you want in your freetime but using the "it's their own style" excuse proves that it's unprofessional and lazy.
@erejnion
@erejnion 4 жыл бұрын
To be more precise, changes in the style must happen for a reason. The easiest example of this would be flashbacks or imaginary landscapes: they are typically given an entirely different style. But, of course, it goes way beyond just this. Long dialogue that would otherwise be just talking heads, punctuating a joke, visual parody to accompany the plot parody, and so on - all of these are often animated with deliberate style changes. So, what is the reason for the style changes in SU? The staff is too lazy to keep the style consistent.
@milli5968
@milli5968 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm just remembering Homestuck where the style just...changed whenever the author felt like it lol. And it wasn't consistent either,like sometimes you'd get really beautiful artwork and sometimes you'd get a random change that looks straight from uncanny valley hell for a couple of chapters that don't even look like they were drawn by the same guy...still a banger though
@gameperson5
@gameperson5 7 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for whoever had to draw 10,000 frames of Rocknaldo
@Ham-Prince
@Ham-Prince 7 жыл бұрын
Peanut Butter I feel bad for people drawing frames for bestiality tentacle porn anime
@DIGITALGH05T
@DIGITALGH05T 7 жыл бұрын
Peanut Butter zonetan on twitch
@the8bitgrandpashow282
@the8bitgrandpashow282 7 жыл бұрын
HAHAAAAA
@Speed001
@Speed001 7 жыл бұрын
Great info vid. I haven't been keeping up with Steven Universe for quite a while now and I don't know every episodes' name. But, with what I see in this video I have an opinion to state. It'd be nice if they kept the color on both halves of the episode for Peridot and Lapiz the same or at least have a lot less of a saturation difference. It looks like the second half has 100% saturation which is not good for artists, I think based on what I've heard from an artist on KZbin. Honestly, I don't mind the little differences on Peridots hair, but it could be slightly annoying, but more similar colors are one thing I expect.
@kirk7893
@kirk7893 7 жыл бұрын
it's not really that bad. its like a message to the fans.
@slobertooth1358
@slobertooth1358 7 жыл бұрын
By season 5 she'll just be a head with legs.
@Bebe_Godzilla
@Bebe_Godzilla 7 жыл бұрын
By Season 6 she is a Dorito. LITERALLY.
@ignisol47
@ignisol47 7 жыл бұрын
By the end of the series she'll just be a rolling triangle
@rune2O2O
@rune2O2O 7 жыл бұрын
Catch a sneak peak of Peridot fusing with a Dorito tonight at 7/8 central
@TheSheBs
@TheSheBs 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, spoilers
@DetectiveNyx
@DetectiveNyx 7 жыл бұрын
halfway through she'll be a green dorito head who gets around by rolling on her massive hairdo
@Iyana
@Iyana 6 жыл бұрын
Their colors are gradually getting more painful to look at
@Albinowolfen
@Albinowolfen 6 жыл бұрын
I y a n a Was wondering if that was just me. Like on homeworld everything just seems so saturated and even when they leave it still is in space.
@vickidarude6344
@vickidarude6344 6 жыл бұрын
Peri goes from a tolerable green to HOLY SHIT NEON PUKE
@xxyolocatsxx7074
@xxyolocatsxx7074 6 жыл бұрын
I y a n a it’s sometimes super light and pastel, while other times it’s like, bitch waddup, time for neon colors.
@CetrouzOfficial
@CetrouzOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I y a n a lapis lazuli too
@joshubeau9955
@joshubeau9955 6 жыл бұрын
Touche
@deathwolf123451
@deathwolf123451 7 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with it as long as it physically doesn't change things in the narrative. But when Steven doesn't need a stepping stool to reach the counter then he does later in the series it pisses me off dude. That's physically changing his height at that point not a perspective thing.
@somethingaboutcats6232
@somethingaboutcats6232 6 жыл бұрын
Faxmachine gonzalez he could be growing up we do know he's growing a beard
@helios9589
@helios9589 6 жыл бұрын
Annie Catlow that's not growing up, it's growing down lol
@somethingaboutcats6232
@somethingaboutcats6232 6 жыл бұрын
Oops I read it wrong 🤣
@somethingaboutcats6232
@somethingaboutcats6232 6 жыл бұрын
Oops I read it wrong 🤣
@helios9589
@helios9589 6 жыл бұрын
it's ok
@meower808
@meower808 7 жыл бұрын
I miss tall Peridot ._. I think I prefer Lauren's style.
@MissVintage789
@MissVintage789 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@caligulasaquarium5032
@caligulasaquarium5032 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, I love Smol peridot, but she looks better slightly taller
@kiwi6207
@kiwi6207 5 жыл бұрын
Same :(((
@kittenmitten2948
@kittenmitten2948 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I prefer taller peridot
@sukyandalous
@sukyandalous 4 жыл бұрын
same
@planariahysteria
@planariahysteria 7 жыл бұрын
please discuss why peridot and lapis's color went from bearable to eye burning neon
@29Hearts
@29Hearts 6 жыл бұрын
Tbh their colours at dawn/night are so much better then at day time. I dont get why they have to make them sO FuCkING NeOn-
@catj.v.6904
@catj.v.6904 6 жыл бұрын
Why does this make me laugh
@user-sc9nk4be4v
@user-sc9nk4be4v 3 жыл бұрын
right omg
@Turbo.s1ayer
@Turbo.s1ayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-sc9nk4be4v dude this comment was 4 years ago why are you even replying to it
@imbroke1992
@imbroke1992 3 жыл бұрын
It’s weird too. When we first see Lapis and Peridot, their colour palettes are really nice and fit into their respective settings. Then the next few times we see them (while they’re living together), they become horribly neon and their proportions are out of place. Finally, when Lapis has moved to the moon, they both go back to looking kind of like they did when they were first introduced. It’s like when they were being used as comic relief, no one paid any attention to the fact that they looked *nothing* like themselves.
@urahara64360
@urahara64360 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think there needed to be a character bible. The lack of consistency in character designs is one thing but over the last few years the crew have been inconsistent about basically everything from characterization to power sets. I'm all for artistic freedom but without consistent quality to show for their work it really feels like a waste of potential. Even more than their scheduling already does. It makes me more and more disappointed.
@pondracer686
@pondracer686 5 жыл бұрын
wth is a character bible
@aman7930
@aman7930 4 жыл бұрын
they had character references on the wall. but idk if they even look up while storyboarding...
@urahara64360
@urahara64360 4 жыл бұрын
@@pondracer686 a series bible is something that is used to set the parameters of a series. It's basically the rule book of character backstory and information along with worldbuilding information. It's used in a lot of series but I don't know if Steven universe did.
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 7 жыл бұрын
I hate how sometimes lapis is a ocean blue and other times she is NEON cyan. They can't even keep the colors consistent! Just use color select! I also hate how sometimes she has bangs and other times her hair just kind of sticks out in any given direction. Her hair looks different basically every single time we see her. And I know people will say the colors change because of the lighting but that doesn't make sense with just how drastically different the colors are or in the context of the lighting or with how inconsistent it is. Edit: and it’s pretty much exclusive to Lapis specifically so none of the excuses people use even work.
@zac8707
@zac8707 7 жыл бұрын
GippyHappy Here's, a thought, her colors change because of lighting and FWI, hair can change shape with any little movement.
@biancamarie3996
@biancamarie3996 6 жыл бұрын
Zac Draws Stuff okay that makes sense but if her hair can move at any movement then why doesnt anyone elses hair move/change. I just see it as the animaters bieng lazy and inconsistant
@zac8707
@zac8707 6 жыл бұрын
Bianca Marie To be honest, I'd call keeping the other characters hair the same being lazy.
@biancamarie3996
@biancamarie3996 6 жыл бұрын
Zac Draws Stuff Okay fine I guess you have a point with the hair, but what about the hieght. And dont use the exuse "ItS bOrInG aNd LaZy To KeEp It ThE sAmE!1!1!!" or "DiFfReNt ArTiStS hAvE dIfFrEnT aRt StYleS!1!!!1" just give me a good reason for them to be inconsistant
@aesthedicks5103
@aesthedicks5103 6 жыл бұрын
it's not color inconsistency; the characters have different color palette for the time of day. lapis' daytime palette make her look really neon blue
@AliceQuinnRose
@AliceQuinnRose 7 жыл бұрын
I care when the characters skin colour changes from a believable unnatural colour to neo in the space of a scene.
@playdoh658
@playdoh658 6 жыл бұрын
Alice Pope-Terry It pains me to look at which is why i stopped wathing the show, my eyes are already too bad i dont want it to get worse
@brichilders9117
@brichilders9117 6 жыл бұрын
lol, fans try to ignore the fact that the artists are terrible with consistency so they come up with theories to try and excuse it.
@zgra74
@zgra74 6 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly
@cherrychocolate1434
@cherrychocolate1434 6 жыл бұрын
I think Brianna was referring to the "gem size being affected by emotional stat/gravity" theories. She wasn't referring to the entire animation process that was shown as a theory.
@magicalrandomness9468
@magicalrandomness9468 6 жыл бұрын
I agree it's messy and unprofessional
@piopio2413
@piopio2413 6 жыл бұрын
bri chil Ikr, one of the most important Job of an Animator is to make the characters consistent. Like wtf
@feralpoodles
@feralpoodles 6 жыл бұрын
Aesthetic Pigeon you must be fun at parties
@Homururu
@Homururu 7 жыл бұрын
It's completely fine to have artistic freedom. It's when you start to make the show look bad, unprofessional, and maybe even mediocre in pacing when you just wack a Steven sized Garnet into the scene when before Steven was as short as Garnet's knees. It matters not in a professional point of view how free you are, it's that, your profession, and making the show look bad because of your mistakes and lack of communication with partner is entirely your fault
@kydiszellinger2909
@kydiszellinger2909 7 жыл бұрын
Yoo when was garnet shown the same size as steven???
@rainpooper7088
@rainpooper7088 7 жыл бұрын
Kya Zellinger I think they're talking about Room for Ruby where Garnet wasn't quite as short as Steven, but looked pretty off. That was something that even I noticed and I usually don't notice this kind of stuff until I watch the episode for the second time.
@samcinbun7642
@samcinbun7642 7 жыл бұрын
Connie also has decreased in height
@serentique
@serentique 6 жыл бұрын
Gamerbee23 | It's so jarring seeing her being the correct height in the intro then as the episode starts we see that monstrosity.
@osmosiswright9924
@osmosiswright9924 6 жыл бұрын
So is Steven. All the smaller characters are just getting smaller/
@walkingstickman1
@walkingstickman1 6 жыл бұрын
Osmosis Wright I guess drawing them smaller makes it easier for the artists to draw. *what.*
@osmosiswright9924
@osmosiswright9924 6 жыл бұрын
bob bread Except what you said doesn't make sense, because the looks of the characters are all over the place. Sometimes they're smaller, sometimes they're not. If it's made them easier, episodes should be quicker to make and the characters themselves should look better over time, and both of those aren't true. Not to mention it shows that the storyboard artists aren't following the character model sheets like they should. All the characters have an established size and everyone involved is supposed to commit to that size. If Connie's body looks half the size as her debut appearance you're doing it wrong.
@magicavocado6528
@magicavocado6528 6 жыл бұрын
I think they did that so it doesn't look as creepy and awkward that an adolescent woman like Connie is hanging around with a half human who is biologically 7-8 years old.
@laurelyt3361
@laurelyt3361 7 жыл бұрын
People honestly give the story boarders so much slack honestly this wouldn't fly in any other show, why are people ok with it... it's a storyboarders job to keep up consistency.
@catj.v.6904
@catj.v.6904 7 жыл бұрын
Precisely.
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 6 жыл бұрын
Because the crew obviously doesn't care and can't take criticism without being babies about it
@GreenforeverLeaf
@GreenforeverLeaf 6 жыл бұрын
Tea Liger Not really. Story boarders usually do keep to their own styles when boarding on projects. It's the animators job to keep things consistent. If you look at the behind the scenes of any big animated movie the storyboards are all over the place artistically. The real issue here is that the Crewniverse is lazy and doesn't do the keyframes themselves like most productions do. Most of the time you give animators on your team the task of making all of the keyframes. This dictates not only the style but also the direction of the whole animation as keyframes are the main parts of the animation. Like say the action of raising your hand would have three keyframes; one frame would be the arm being down,then the arm being halfway up, and then the arm being entirely raised. From here the animation can be given to in betweeners who animate the frames between the keyframes to make motion smooth and animated. As the style is already set you don't have to worry about outsourcing inbetweeners as they can't mess things up too bad if they do their job right. From the looks of this show though they hired the inbetweeners to do everything and only gave them the rough guide to go off of.
@Paul-jo1it
@Paul-jo1it 6 жыл бұрын
Tea Liger It’s a metaphor
@lanithehuman4963
@lanithehuman4963 6 жыл бұрын
Tea Liger kill raven 😈
@DigiRumble
@DigiRumble 7 жыл бұрын
I understand Rebecca Sugar allowing her storyboard artists some artistic freedom, but when it gets to the point that it now has where every character is constantly off model in every scene in every episode, she needs to start putting in some stricter guidelines for the storyboard artists. It's become harder and harder for me to watch the show I used to love and adore because of how jarring and awful the animation has become over the past year. Not to mention the fact that we've gone almost a full season and have had basically zero main story progression outside of the saving greg steven bomb, its been nothing but towney episodes that add nothing to the overall plot and rehashes of older episodes done explicitly worse.
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Sike I know at least when other cartoons have filler like the most recent batch of Aventura time episodes Uncle gumbald and everyone are the main point of the first one then you get the tree trunks episode then the Marceline episode. The later to had nothing to do with gumbald but they at least mention it in the tree trunks episode and give cousin chicle s minor role in the Marceline episode. Oh and the other thing for over nine seasons adventure time has had no trouble keeping animation consistent and having characters start on model and they have a character (Jake) that can shapeshift but when he goes back to normal he's always the same size in the sun flower episode of Steven universe amethyst shapeshifts and is a different size almost every time she returns to her normal form. I agree with you 100% I used to really enjoy Steven universe now I can't even watch it without getting agitated
@Youre_dumb
@Youre_dumb 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Sike there’s a difference between animation and art style
@kiraslova
@kiraslova 6 жыл бұрын
Omg I thought I was the only one who had this opinion. Thank you so much for saying this.
@lanithehuman4963
@lanithehuman4963 6 жыл бұрын
It's ravens fault, I HATE IT WHEN PERIDOT HAS HUGE HAIR LIKE DAT, Lauren is the BEST
@magicalrandomness9468
@magicalrandomness9468 6 жыл бұрын
I hate thee excuse "creative freedom" gravity falls had tones of creative freedom star vs the forces of evil is also a very creative show you don't see any of those characters drawn off model or change in sizes
@tristanneal9552
@tristanneal9552 6 жыл бұрын
You call it artistic freedom, I call it unprofessionally low standards.
@joesubel
@joesubel 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with this, look at shows like Adventure Time where artists are given artistic freedom to animate characters in any style they like but still stay consistent to what has already been established and what is happening at the present.
@atranslittleuwu3067
@atranslittleuwu3067 4 жыл бұрын
Ok you try to make a entire show with hmm, 7 seasons, with perfect mesurments to the characters heights, and notice, it’s not easy!
@lexyshannon9428
@lexyshannon9428 4 жыл бұрын
@@atranslittleuwu3067 to be fair though, the comparisons in peridot's height are drastically different. The heights dont always have to be 100% exactly the same all of the time throughout a series, but when the differences are that big there's a problem.
@atranslittleuwu3067
@atranslittleuwu3067 4 жыл бұрын
Lexy Shannon but didn’t she have boots in the beginning of the show too? She lists those after fighting the gems, and they were most of her hight
@atranslittleuwu3067
@atranslittleuwu3067 4 жыл бұрын
Loses*
@macdre3911
@macdre3911 7 жыл бұрын
Peridot and Lapis have been changing so much, like their color gets weirder and weirder every episode. I liked her color from that first clip and Lapis color from the first episode
@macdre3911
@macdre3911 7 жыл бұрын
I meant Lapis color from her first episode.
@garb8933
@garb8933 7 жыл бұрын
Alfereus Lapis' pallet with the bright blies are her day pallete, and the pallets with darker blues were in the night or in a dark place
@mothman96
@mothman96 7 жыл бұрын
yeah first shot is her evening pallet. so it's cooler color.
@Seatlejuice
@Seatlejuice 7 жыл бұрын
I understand that the brighter colour pallet is what she's meant to look like in the day, but I think everyone can agree it's quite an eyesore. The saturation on her skin is ridiculous, and honestly to some it really hurts the eyes.
@subata45
@subata45 7 жыл бұрын
looking at other pieces of art of lapis, I think its another issue with the storyboard artist who draws peridot ridiculously small, they seem to oversaturate everything.
@NoahHartmanVA
@NoahHartmanVA 7 жыл бұрын
Not to be a jerk, but god I think Ravens art style is absolutely terrible, especially on Lapis.
@kaitie648
@kaitie648 7 жыл бұрын
They look cartoony. As a drawing it MIGHT work, but seeing it move makes them look plain silly. These designs from Raven belong in a toddler show or a comedy show. Not in something trying to have a storyline like this show. Raven should take her work to Teen Titans Go! or some other pure comedy show. It's where her style won't look out of place and stupid.
@jeypi113
@jeypi113 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, and I also think she does a mess of Amethyst
@broman55gaming
@broman55gaming 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, it just looks kinda off whenever it shows up
@kiraslova
@kiraslova 6 жыл бұрын
agree 100%. everytime raven's style is shown it bugs the living crap outta me. it looks really out of place and super ridiculous.
@lanithehuman4963
@lanithehuman4963 6 жыл бұрын
ENIGMA FINALLY SOMEINE WHO AGREES! SHRINK PERIDOT'S HAIR AND LAPIS'S CHEEK
@monme6123
@monme6123 7 жыл бұрын
It's because Sugar is too light on the storyboarders and doesn't make any set heights, thus making it look sloppy.
@thetoontastictoon1720
@thetoontastictoon1720 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I like Sugar for allowing artistic freedom, but she should try to lay down the base a bit more. Be a bit more strict. Allow artistic freedom still, but set the heights.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 7 жыл бұрын
The Toontastic Toon this is a show, not a 'show and tell.' When you are an animator, or in this case, greatly influence the animators, you HAVE TO follow the design. The crewniverse needs to get it together, it's too jarring to see characters change height and appearance IN THE SAME EPISODE. It's not too much to ask for consistency, that's the expectation.
@wolfstargazer5401
@wolfstargazer5401 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with toontastic. Rebecca should be a little more strict. okay, settle only their heights if you don't want to be all "nazi" but it should be done, because it's kinda weird and even though I know she's still peridot, she feels different
@illusionofartYT
@illusionofartYT 7 жыл бұрын
agreed but then again steven universe isnt like any other show and i think personally were being to hard
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 7 жыл бұрын
Arnez Juggins your english teacher clearly wasn't hard enough on you.. And it's not being 'too hard' to expect the most basic rule of animation. Consistency.
@michaelanderson3402
@michaelanderson3402 7 жыл бұрын
Although I never noticed any changes, I still think it's unprofessional that they just change the style like that and how the characters don't even have a confirmed height. That's just sloppy and lazy.
@mannyloid7474
@mannyloid7474 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Steins not really
@frankespino1880
@frankespino1880 6 жыл бұрын
Manny Loid Too bad it is
@mannyloid7474
@mannyloid7474 6 жыл бұрын
Frank Espino I don't mind the change in the art style.
@isaacgray2909
@isaacgray2909 6 жыл бұрын
This is very bad for an animation professionals though.
@mannyloid7474
@mannyloid7474 6 жыл бұрын
Choco Zoe oh. But still I don't mind.
@Aaaaaaa-ji8kh
@Aaaaaaa-ji8kh 7 жыл бұрын
Here's my amazing theory The staff can't draw the same character the same way in different scenes
@suzq9815
@suzq9815 7 жыл бұрын
Nightmare Shadow OMG YOUR RIGHT
@RayManiac90
@RayManiac90 6 жыл бұрын
That's not excusable, an artist should know how to draw characters in different scenes.
@femanon
@femanon 6 жыл бұрын
That's true but the proportions of characters should at least be consistent
@thecowgoesmoo2285
@thecowgoesmoo2285 6 жыл бұрын
Nightmare Shadow my exactly theory.. lol
@Chilla001
@Chilla001 6 жыл бұрын
If you can't do such a simple thing you shouldn't be an animator. This is animation 101.
@sky1arks995
@sky1arks995 7 жыл бұрын
Being a manga and comic lover I'm pretty open and uncaring of the subtle change in art style; it it happens. But I do prefer the earlier more subtle colour palette rather than the newer toxic bright colours for Lapis and Peridot's skin, especially Lapis; I'm sorry but that shade of bright blue shouldn't be allowed in any animation and it hurts my eyes.
@nursebee-vomit5058
@nursebee-vomit5058 7 жыл бұрын
And it isn't even just a brighter version of her darker palette. It an entirely different hue. She looks great at night, sunset, and during stormy weather because it is based on a much calmer hue of blue. I love her sunset and night time palette much more.
@hundragant
@hundragant 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's bizarre they don't have consistency. It's not an issue for me, though I do feel they should put more effort in getting their characters consistent. There should be a template they all follow. A hard template.
@asiletihw6993
@asiletihw6993 7 жыл бұрын
Virgo Heart It's also not cool how she tries to justify the inconsistency by saying its good to have storyboard artists the artistic freedom.
@ReinWitch
@ReinWitch 7 жыл бұрын
Asil Etihw how? i don't think it's an excuse. I think it's rather interesting and creative. So long as the characters are the same as always I don't see a problem. SU is a very different show for most it makes sense that the process be different too
@meevins
@meevins 7 жыл бұрын
it is an excuse. It is unprofessional and just lazy
@asiletihw6993
@asiletihw6993 7 жыл бұрын
Roppinine ^ what Clover basically said. I had a long ass response written down but basically it's just pure laziness. Storyboard artist should put effort into accurately drawing their characters. Having two totally noticeable styles in one episode is unprofessional. It seems that the artist cared more about how they draw the characters than how they should be portrayed.
@ReinWitch
@ReinWitch 7 жыл бұрын
Its a style choice, you don't have to like it. If it bothers you that much don't watch.
@Gateau
@Gateau 6 жыл бұрын
Why does no one ever mention how Steven is 13 and is like 2 and a half feet tall? He doesn't even come up to his dad's waist half of the time. He's like the cartoon equivalent of Danny Devito.
@cocoapuff_x
@cocoapuff_x 4 жыл бұрын
Jutsu Weaver dang i was so aggressive lmao but what i meant was that steven being short was because greg was really short
@JohnDoe-vw4zf
@JohnDoe-vw4zf 4 жыл бұрын
@HaremGodRance if you don't care about visuals because the story is more important go read a book
@JohnDoe-vw4zf
@JohnDoe-vw4zf 4 жыл бұрын
@HaremGodRance you forget that I cant tell what you're thinking when you write a comment
@JohnDoe-vw4zf
@JohnDoe-vw4zf 4 жыл бұрын
@HaremGodRance I could see an interpretation if it was addressed to belfry but other than that it doesn't comment on the art inconsistencies
@carolinay31
@carolinay31 4 жыл бұрын
Stevens appearance depends on wut age he feels and he was an innocent boi so *cough* I guess thats y ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@phantomparty2079
@phantomparty2079 7 жыл бұрын
cool but like... Rick and Morty is story board driven and so are alot of shows and they keep their character's anatomy consistent thru out the show. if su artists can't keep it consistent than isn't that unprofessional? even I , a teenager and a child I can keep my characters anatomy and size etc consistent when I draw comics lmao
@kaitie648
@kaitie648 7 жыл бұрын
It's not really unprofessional, it's just lazy. The Crewniverse is a lazy crew because they all draw in their style when a show should have a consistent style.
@phantomparty2079
@phantomparty2079 7 жыл бұрын
Kaitie Montegomery I agree completely
@derpydust9998
@derpydust9998 7 жыл бұрын
nice
@phantomparty2079
@phantomparty2079 7 жыл бұрын
blasphysics i didn't realize my mistake about Rick and Morty, I didn't know but it's not cool to call me ignorant fir making a mistake. You're right it's hard to keep characters 100% consistent while drawing them thousands of times but they should still have some more consistency. I don't think the merits of the show are void because of the inconsistency but , for me and my friends who watch su together, it removes us from the story sometimes. Just because it's a good snow doesn't mean it's above fair criticism 😛
@Caenef
@Caenef 7 жыл бұрын
The animators doing the ten thousand frames were using the storyboard artists' keyframes, though, going off of the material given to them. If the storyboard is sloppy, it's not the animators' job to fix it. And it's their job to maintain consistency; it's the nature of the biz. Style shifts that aren't intentional for artistic or directorial effect are, as far as I've read or seen, understood to be the mark of a sloppy company or employee work. As a casual bystander with no knowledge of any of the show's creators or policies, I'll see a stark inconsistency not as a celebration of creative freedom, but as a distracting flaw. It's not about intentions, but the finished product, and something like this strikes me as, to use what other commenters have said, unprofessional.
@DreamwithintheHeart
@DreamwithintheHeart 7 жыл бұрын
Well executed and very well explained, though I need to get out my view for a moment, to show another side. As an up and coming animator myself, when working on a team with several people, we all know that yes we all have different drawing styles, BUT we all try to get a base so that the characters will look the same once we switch hands. It looks really unprofessional to have an inconsistent artsyle, and character dynamics, and it's really unexeptable if it's present within the same episode. That's my view, and I know that not a lot of people take issue, but those animators in SKorea sure do notice it, when there is a sudden change.
@someoneyoumightknow2795
@someoneyoumightknow2795 7 жыл бұрын
DreamwithintheHeart Exactly!
@Baka-kun
@Baka-kun 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't even notice the style switching half way omg. I will admit, though seeing different styles within the show is inspiring to see, I feel as if they're getting lazy. Like they're trying to slip their laziness past Rebecca and using her personality to do so, since she is known to provide creative freedom to her storyboarders and is extremely kind. I will admit, this year so far has not been so kind to the Crewiverse so I will not hold it against them. Its just a neverending circle. Crewiverse gets a leak and loses some ratings, fans get hyped then disappointed by the "fillers", fans bash on them, crewiverse probably is getting tired of all the hate, show goes in lower quality, fans get more upset. It hurts both sides!
@Yeahsoanyways0
@Yeahsoanyways0 7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, people are getting way too stubborn over the show.
@supermantahoo
@supermantahoo 7 жыл бұрын
people are retards. that's why.
@madelinebitts2766
@madelinebitts2766 7 жыл бұрын
The show isn't lowering in quality because some people criticised the episodes so far in this frankly woeful season. Those episodes were storyboarded out ages ago, it takes months to create a single episode, not days.
@StupidSmut
@StupidSmut 7 жыл бұрын
it's lazy storyboard artist, there job is to mimic the style and keep them on model. it's lazy
@balze3492
@balze3492 7 жыл бұрын
Baka - Kun When room for ruby and other episodes that make the gems look different came out, they probably didn't get hate. It takes a year for one episode
@NRF3703
@NRF3703 7 жыл бұрын
I like Dark Blue Lapis more tbh
@AndrewLittlerHasOpinions
@AndrewLittlerHasOpinions 7 жыл бұрын
This is an incredible long way to say "shit is sometimes inconsistent, yo" and then try to apologize for it.
@catj.v.6904
@catj.v.6904 7 жыл бұрын
^^^^^
@Kari166
@Kari166 6 жыл бұрын
Where did she call anyone a bigot for disliking the inconsistencies??
@kattisc3778
@kattisc3778 7 жыл бұрын
I do think that they should have some consistent anatomy it seems more professional, easier to follow, and less distracting. Lauren's version of Peridot and Lapis ware my favorite but I did like Raven's way of doing the eyes better.
@Kotomilktea
@Kotomilktea 7 жыл бұрын
Having a character height sheet will not ruin anyone's "love and diversity" or their "artistic freedom". Those mistakes are getting ridiculous and very unprofessional. Also isn't the "diversity" ruined when they keep drawing Amethyst, Steven and Rose thinner and thinner?
@Hulk1566
@Hulk1566 7 жыл бұрын
Mia Honigtee well I don't really see whats the point of nitpicking the show anyway
@mothman96
@mothman96 7 жыл бұрын
there is a height sheet... but it's relative. garnet is always taller than pearl. pearl is taller than lapis. lapis is taller than steven amethyst and peridot who are the same height. you will never see the heights break those rules. they change but never in relation to each other.
@Viberaterz
@Viberaterz 7 жыл бұрын
Miles I thought Lapis and Pearl are the same height
@Kotomilktea
@Kotomilktea 7 жыл бұрын
Miles Miles They do change height in relation to each other. There may have not been a scene were Garnet was suddenly smaller than Steven (even though it wouldn't surprise me honestly) but they change height in relation to each other allllll the time.
@Hulk1566
@Hulk1566 7 жыл бұрын
Mia Honigtee do you even have proof
@fraisestart
@fraisestart 7 жыл бұрын
No offense to Raven who has beautiful art but I like Lauren's version of Peridot and Lapis better :/
@-themeepqueen3984
@-themeepqueen3984 7 жыл бұрын
me too :/
@jeaya
@jeaya 7 жыл бұрын
SketchingWho same
@the8bitgrandpashow282
@the8bitgrandpashow282 7 жыл бұрын
Me too. Raven's version looks kind of kiddish
@acecelia3262
@acecelia3262 7 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@acecelia3262
@acecelia3262 7 жыл бұрын
That guy on the internet Yea she adds more details, and better proportions.
@krisbean4064
@krisbean4064 7 жыл бұрын
I actually never pay attention to vast differences in shape/size... but I do notice that a lot of the characters are a lot more saturated than they were...
@minathepinkpigglet2812
@minathepinkpigglet2812 6 жыл бұрын
Ok I stopped watching when you got to your monologue at the end. There’s no excuse to make the final product look horrible for the sake of diversity. At the end of the day they should worry about how the episode will look when it’s complete than use diversity as an excuse to be lazy.
@joeypaulsen8788
@joeypaulsen8788 6 жыл бұрын
This why we created MODEL SHEETS people! They have been using them ever since 19-god damn-30!
@imthesadguyduh
@imthesadguyduh 7 жыл бұрын
Lauren honestly does the best story boarding... too bad she's leaving 😞
@bobbyflythe7969
@bobbyflythe7969 7 жыл бұрын
Lalala lala lala lalala
@TheJamieKeely
@TheJamieKeely 7 жыл бұрын
SuperSonic64 I think so too
@WonnieWon04
@WonnieWon04 7 жыл бұрын
SuperSonic64 nooooooo
@kiotnt8936
@kiotnt8936 7 жыл бұрын
ok I don't want steven universe to end like the regular show
@popcorn6988
@popcorn6988 7 жыл бұрын
did u hear the drama?
@normalturtles306
@normalturtles306 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes steven is bigger than the counter
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that too!Also, Garnet was pretty short in the beginning of Room for Ruby when Steven was stargazing with her too.
@Bells_Haven
@Bells_Haven 7 жыл бұрын
Liked because of your creepy profile pic
@agrotesqueoldwoman1626
@agrotesqueoldwoman1626 7 жыл бұрын
Also Yellow diamond went from being around 3 pearls tall to being able to carry two pearls in one hand
@jacknoir2738
@jacknoir2738 7 жыл бұрын
Normal Turtles 100th like
@eonstar
@eonstar 7 жыл бұрын
I always just thought Steven was taller :/
@animet20
@animet20 7 жыл бұрын
Finally someone explaining that it's based on what the storyboard artist do!
@MatiasMishel96
@MatiasMishel96 6 жыл бұрын
Artistic freedom for diversity sake doesn't mean quality.
@thefeyseamster
@thefeyseamster 7 жыл бұрын
im ok with both lapis designs but i dont like the fact that peridot is a green dorito with legs and arms (literally) i liked more when peridot was way more tall, with small pupils and all thats stuff.
@CombatSportsNerd
@CombatSportsNerd 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah they gotta fix this shit. Characters are suppose to improve over time not deteriorate
@Yeahsoanyways0
@Yeahsoanyways0 7 жыл бұрын
yep, I agree on that.
@aaminahaustin3682
@aaminahaustin3682 7 жыл бұрын
The Otaku Dragon Slayer ha this made me laugh
@Hayden_Cat
@Hayden_Cat 7 жыл бұрын
The Otaku Dragon Slayer this is the fourth or fifth timmeee omg
@dopekingzii
@dopekingzii 7 жыл бұрын
The Otaku Dragon Slayer your everywhere
@CombatSportsNerd
@CombatSportsNerd 7 жыл бұрын
I know
@jillstingray7848
@jillstingray7848 7 жыл бұрын
4:34 So thaaaat's why they chose North Korea for Steven Bomb 5... Huh. The more you know
@jillstingray7848
@jillstingray7848 7 жыл бұрын
FUCK I MEAN SOUTH KOREA
@potatoqueen10
@potatoqueen10 7 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A FUCKING ICON FUCK GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS lol just edit your comment to the right words
@Pigforday
@Pigforday 7 жыл бұрын
*IN SEASON 5 SHE WILL BE AS SMALL AS A DORITO SO I CAN EAT HER*
@mustaki7620
@mustaki7620 7 жыл бұрын
Everyday we stray further from God....
@servingcvnt
@servingcvnt 7 жыл бұрын
Pig forday 😂
@clairecorgi5219
@clairecorgi5219 7 жыл бұрын
Pig forday plz don't eat the smol clod.
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 6 жыл бұрын
She'll just be hair
@r.yann.x
@r.yann.x 6 жыл бұрын
And.. that was another lie.
@SALEMZZZ
@SALEMZZZ 7 жыл бұрын
yeah so I *am* going to get killed from this but Peridot is getting smaller and smaller because she is a big pile of f a n s e r v i c e since she's been a crystal gem.
@dragonbowrghr5937
@dragonbowrghr5937 7 жыл бұрын
Killer Catnip You're right. Peridot was my favorite character, but all she does nowadays is provide fanservice. #BringBackTheOldPeri
@SALEMZZZ
@SALEMZZZ 7 жыл бұрын
DragonBow RGHR I could not agree with you more. I recently stopped watching SU because I needed a break from new Peridot. She's turning more and more childish, and that is making me sick, I mean, I loved her when she was intelligent and cynical. But now is no-rest fanservice.
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 6 жыл бұрын
And the last thing this show needs to do is cater to it's mostly psychotic fans
@aquadropandmlp2306
@aquadropandmlp2306 6 жыл бұрын
how did 37 people like this comment
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 6 жыл бұрын
aquadrop and mlp because only 40 people are left that are sane in this fandom unfortunately
@i8araddish653
@i8araddish653 6 жыл бұрын
Raven’s colors are VERY vibrant. I know she doesn’t color the frames, but they really need to tone that down a desaturate those colors.
@midnalazuli793
@midnalazuli793 7 жыл бұрын
They don't have a definitive height, all we know is who is taller than who.
@atemesmoemseussonhoseuesta6291
@atemesmoemseussonhoseuesta6291 7 жыл бұрын
in some scenes Pearl is taller than Lapis but in other ones, they have the same height wtf
@Reagan_Calamity
@Reagan_Calamity 7 жыл бұрын
The beginning made me laugh so hard!
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@simsim6874
@simsim6874 7 жыл бұрын
JazzyGinger same
@lpsangleblue5533
@lpsangleblue5533 7 жыл бұрын
JazzyGinger lol
@thatonegameryt7795
@thatonegameryt7795 7 жыл бұрын
JazzyGinger get off youtube kid
@fandomgaming9072
@fandomgaming9072 7 жыл бұрын
Asriel And Chara calm down internet police
@TarouMyaki
@TarouMyaki 7 жыл бұрын
I wish all the animators stuck to one specific style. It's lazy for them to just draw it however they want. If they want to practice their own art style on their own time that's fine. But not for the actual show. That's why we have the art and character designers. Animators are suppossed to mimic that very art into animation. It's why they're given height and design charts ect ect. ~From an aspiring animator. edit: Yes I know the storyboard artists do the designs for this show. But my point still stands. You need a consistent art style for a show. It's still lazy.
@keiromultiverse3608
@keiromultiverse3608 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the thing is that SU isn't as high budget as you'd think. CN after all is way below Nick and Disney. And on top of that, Cartoon Network pours all of its money into Teen Titans Go! So they have to take shortcuts and an easy way of doing that is just having animators trace the boards instead of making fully fledged animations. Is it unprofessional and annoying? Yeah. But I think it can be forgiven knowing the company they work for.
@supermantahoo
@supermantahoo 7 жыл бұрын
Tarou Myaki if you were a true aspiring animator you would know from ren&stimpy that unhinged visual style is something to embrace. this is her show, not yours. she makes the decision, and that's final. you're nothing but the consumer. you have no influence on the product. you want to make the rules? get your own show. otherwise, don't tell people how to make THEIR show. they worked harder than you did, and they earned it, you didn't. sit down, shut the fuck up and watch the show. when you get your own show one day (if you do) then you can force the artists to draw however you like. don't tell other people how to do their jobs, since you don't influence or contribute anything to the show. Rebecca likely works 1000x more every day than you do, I can tell because she wouldn't have time to complain about trivial details of someone else's TV show on KZbin since she's spending most of that time MAKING ONE.
@supermantahoo
@supermantahoo 7 жыл бұрын
Tarou Myaki Being an "aspiring animator" doesn't mean shit, and you have no merit. that's zero status. certainly doesn't put you in position to tell an experienced industry professional how to do their own work. you're shit to them. lmao
@bixeki4634
@bixeki4634 7 жыл бұрын
supermantahoo yeah, no. The only main problem with SU is them not real having a consistent main proportion to the characters. The colors could be good one day but the next episode it's neon. Rebecca can let them have freedom but they should at least have a strict base that says the basic to a character and they still have to add that.
@TarouMyaki
@TarouMyaki 7 жыл бұрын
supermantahoo Salty? I think you're salty. I know more about this then you probably do since I actually go to school and learn this stuff and know what I'm talking about.
@bucketofturtles7243
@bucketofturtles7243 6 жыл бұрын
all characters are getting smaller because the animation is getting progressively lazier. everything is losing shape, detail, and consistency.
@skwam7202
@skwam7202 6 жыл бұрын
BucketOfTurtles hardly
@BM-ts1yi
@BM-ts1yi 4 жыл бұрын
Change your mind: *are you sure about that?* Ok, but seriously, most of season 5 was okay with this, we had nice structured, consistent animation
@ningamedrano
@ningamedrano 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO how did you spin this into a positive? If there is huge inconsistencies in everything from design, size and color over the course of an episode that reflects poorly on the whole crew
@blueyoshi1
@blueyoshi1 7 жыл бұрын
I like Lauren's storyboarding better because I love the messy hair
@CartoonUniverse
@CartoonUniverse 7 жыл бұрын
That was super insightful!
@crunch1757
@crunch1757 7 жыл бұрын
Universe!!!!!!!
@the-deadly-pineapple3157
@the-deadly-pineapple3157 7 жыл бұрын
YAY!!!!!!!!
@IzaNoodle
@IzaNoodle 7 жыл бұрын
Cartoon Universe Hiya!!!
@Helicopter7
@Helicopter7 6 жыл бұрын
Hey cartoon universe.............
@ButterWarrior101
@ButterWarrior101 7 жыл бұрын
I wish Lauren didn't get harassed off. I loved her style way more.
@flutteryhamburger411
@flutteryhamburger411 6 жыл бұрын
Artistic Freedom sounds like an excuse to be lazy about keeping the characters drawn the same and not be different heights suddenly out of the blue.
@casper3105
@casper3105 6 жыл бұрын
We get that Rebecca wants her crew to express as much of artistic freedom they want but you cannot deny the fact that its increadibly distracting and makes it very unprofessional, Every show has so many pages of model sheets for 1 character to keep them consistant and in proportion, while rebecca threw it all out of window would Avatar Be better if each storyboarder had all the freedom and one drew aang taller than sokka? or other drew toph with Big hair? or other one drew Zukos scar in a large size? The crewnevers looks not only unprofessional but increadibly lazy when they are ignoring their mistakes that they can fix easily by just giving the storyboard artist Model Sheets and Notes, these mistakes give the show many flaws and if they continiue to do so it will complitelly turn their viewers off, why should they give a shit about the show when the crew doesn't in the first place? you can let your crew express their artistic freedom but it doesn't mean the results will be good.
@matteblackthewaterbearer
@matteblackthewaterbearer 7 жыл бұрын
Woah, while I love all your videos, this video is easily one of my favorites! You really killed it, funny and informative all at the same time, well worth the wait!
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Swaggy! Took a lot longer to make this video then I thought, but I am glad that it was worth the wait!
@crunch1757
@crunch1757 7 жыл бұрын
Rose's Universe eyy! thad's prettih goo'
@bloodcurdling4466
@bloodcurdling4466 7 жыл бұрын
Swaggy Thunder I know u oh yeah I watched ur vids
@kirbigreenleaf3160
@kirbigreenleaf3160 7 жыл бұрын
Swaggy Thunder blk
@the8bitgrandpashow282
@the8bitgrandpashow282 7 жыл бұрын
Well, hello, Swaggy! Wasn't expecting to see you here!
@boxed_goat6794
@boxed_goat6794 7 жыл бұрын
I mostly don't care about the differences between storyboarders, I just don't like when Peridot is tiny.
@derpydust9998
@derpydust9998 7 жыл бұрын
Great username, great profile pic, and great comment, you have my respect
@astrid-radiantdiamond5948
@astrid-radiantdiamond5948 7 жыл бұрын
She is adorable though!
@mirandalone8633
@mirandalone8633 7 жыл бұрын
I think the animators/storyboard artists are just getting very lazy and I'm starting to notice it as the series progresses... I noticed in the new episode "Room for Ruby", Garnett was so short as if the animators don't have a reference sheet of the characters proportions while they're drawing. Granted yes, every artist/animator has their unique style but they are TRAINED for four years to draw a certain character consistently and accurately. Showing inconsistency in the characters just shows that either the animator is an amateur or just plain lazy.
@kaalogiii4127
@kaalogiii4127 7 жыл бұрын
miranda lone it's cause they don't have official height charts for the character
@madelinebitts2766
@madelinebitts2766 7 жыл бұрын
That's not really a good excuse, Aqua.
@mirandalone8633
@mirandalone8633 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with Madeline Bitts, that's not a really good excuse. I'm pretty sure in the first season of Sponge Bob, Powerpuff girls, Samurai Jack, Foster's Home, and Ed, Edd, and Eddy, a character turn around sheet, facial expression sheet, and proportion sheet were created to get the characters right. True sometimes the characters change a bit as the series progresses, but not out of laziness, but because the show has received more popularity and now the studio has more money to spend on more updated equipment and software. Being a character designer myself (I'm majoring in 2d/3d animation), I would feel pretty embarrassed if I got the chance to work at a top animation studio, assigned to draw a specific character, and then have the character who originally had an oval face and a tall build one episode and then draw the same character again but with a square face and as short as a midget the next.
@illusionofartYT
@illusionofartYT 7 жыл бұрын
miranda lone thank you
@kaalogiii4127
@kaalogiii4127 7 жыл бұрын
Abbeimantion and Mirana Lone, ahhh no I mean like, they don't have official height charts and i didn't mean it for an excuse. It was more as to point out another flaw in their process :// And tbh it's really fucking unprofessional and I get so ticked watching Garnet shrink as well. In room for Ruby, Garnet was reduced to a midget along with peridot as well. ://////
@samwallaceart288
@samwallaceart288 7 жыл бұрын
The inconsistent character designs are permissible when *intentional,* if there is an expressive reason to depict a character a certain way to sell the emotion of the scene. Barring that, if the differences just come down to insufficient quality control, then that answers its own question. From a story perspective the inconsistency is forgivable. But from an artist's technical perspective, the show is lacking in finesse of execution. Anyone who is inspired to be an animator based on this show needs to recognize the difference between making the character expressive and flat-out going off model; regardless of whether or not *there is* a model to begin with (which SU may not) if the change is noticeable it detracts from the immersion of the story, which is a negative no matter what your perspective.
@-liomus-8197
@-liomus-8197 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Steven was a bit shorter than garnet in the first scene and the same height as navy in a later scene, this episode was pretty bad about heights
@animehearthd5469
@animehearthd5469 7 жыл бұрын
this video feels very inspired, keep this up, I love animation talk in general. Personally I find it too distracting to the point that it ruins it for me, especially because Peridot is my favorite character and she barely looks good in any shot anymore, and I started the show because of the emotions and atmosphere it had plus the visuals and I find it hard to find now, which saddens me. Nevertheless great video!!
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And I get what you are saying about the show. It does kinda feel like it's been in a slump lately. Hopefully season 5 will pick up!
@victorialynndesigns3532
@victorialynndesigns3532 7 жыл бұрын
I can tolerate the neon colors, I can tolerate the different styles. But for the love of god, fix my green beans LEGS!
@rosequartzuniversethecryst9256
@rosequartzuniversethecryst9256 7 жыл бұрын
VictoriaLynnDesigns yeah Peri needs to have the limb enhancers
@victorialynndesigns3532
@victorialynndesigns3532 7 жыл бұрын
Rose Quartz Universe The Crystal Gem ive always liked her better without them actually.
@rosequartzuniversethecryst9256
@rosequartzuniversethecryst9256 7 жыл бұрын
VictoriaLynnDesigns but the limb enhancers make her look less short cuz look on the Steven universe wiki for peridot then look at her with and without limb enhancers
@victorialynndesigns3532
@victorialynndesigns3532 7 жыл бұрын
Rose Quartz Universe The Crystal Gem i know they make her taller, but the art style is changing. For example: look how long peridots legs are in catch and release, when it rains, barn mates, etc VS recent episodes like gem harvest, the new crystal gems, and room for ruby. Her actual legs have shrunk. Thats what bothers me
@dark6tails19
@dark6tails19 7 жыл бұрын
She is not shrinking. It's because of the different artists who draws her all have a different art style. I personally love Lauren's style, Hilary and Kat's too. They draw Peridot in her actual height and I like how they draw Lapis too.
@lanithehuman4963
@lanithehuman4963 6 жыл бұрын
dark6tails19 agree ALL HAIL LAUREN
@gimic5679
@gimic5679 6 жыл бұрын
That doesn't make sense though. They should be keeping the same style instead of using different artists. Their's no excuse.
@cucker1764
@cucker1764 6 жыл бұрын
dark6tails19 still their pretty lazy
@DetectiveNyx
@DetectiveNyx 6 жыл бұрын
When Peridot is taller than, the same height as, and shorter than Steven in the space of 3 episodes, it's just plain lazy. Doesn't matter if it's different artists; a relativity height chart should be in order.
@amberhawksong
@amberhawksong 6 жыл бұрын
dark6tails19 ikr
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 7 жыл бұрын
So are the fans of this show. I'm really starting to hate Rebecca Sugar for being well just unprofessional to the point that I don't they actually know wtf they are doing
@GoldenArcaine
@GoldenArcaine 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Crecca she really isn't though....its just her crew the problem..do you think she draws all that no its her crew
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 6 жыл бұрын
Golden Arcaine no not she's the captain of the ship so she's responsible. If the crew is doing poorly it's her fault for not making sure she hired professionals instead of friends it's her fault for making sure they feel comfortable instead of doing their jobs correctly. She's in charge and if she's so whatever that the crew takes advantage of that, that is her fault
@garnetdunn2249
@garnetdunn2249 6 жыл бұрын
Hating someone because of their animation is dumb lmao
@prometeya3700
@prometeya3700 6 жыл бұрын
You know it's really distracting when in one episode Steve can lay down vertically on Satdonyx's palm but in the next she's barely taller than Garnet.
@okaruto2803
@okaruto2803 7 жыл бұрын
And her hair gets huge.
@jumbledbee3603
@jumbledbee3603 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, the characters should at least look the same, regardless of artist.
@jumbledbee3603
@jumbledbee3603 7 жыл бұрын
It should be consistent
@vianjelos
@vianjelos 7 жыл бұрын
Peeps RGoode at least for the whole episode..if it diverges epeisode to epsiodd slightly I think thats expected..example being Dragon ball super has like 3 different animation teams so each episode looks slightly different than the next( some being really nicely drawn and others not so much) SU has the same thing because teams roatate episodes..but they usually look the same throughout the whole episode..the contrast here was too obvious and distracting.
@bloodcurdling4466
@bloodcurdling4466 7 жыл бұрын
Peeps RGoode no *smiles*
@TurtleReefReal
@TurtleReefReal 7 жыл бұрын
Peeps RGoode Agreed.
@jumbledbee3603
@jumbledbee3603 7 жыл бұрын
Frïëd Çhïçkëñ Number 1 Ok then?
@NightmareFactory830
@NightmareFactory830 6 жыл бұрын
Multiple styles In a singular show is nothing new, and often welcomed. If used appropriately, it could help improve the atmosphere of a scene, (rounder, softer, less detailed models in comedic scenes for better expression. Sharper and more detailed designs for more serious moments). BUT the sizes and designs (not necessarily the models) needs to be constant and not changing.
@user-fh5ms4wg3w
@user-fh5ms4wg3w 7 жыл бұрын
better question is connie shrinking (hell yeah she is) look at bubble buddys, then look at doug out she shrank ( humans don't shrink)
@hourzerox
@hourzerox 7 жыл бұрын
PGplayz Fusing's been taking a toll on her
@user-fh5ms4wg3w
@user-fh5ms4wg3w 7 жыл бұрын
maybe... hmm more theorizing i guess :/
@keepsmilinglittlemax1244
@keepsmilinglittlemax1244 6 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't like how peridot has mega huge hair and a tiny body. The storyboard artist made it too noticeable. They should try and add some consistency in the size of characters.
@kadenplaysgamesikpg8896
@kadenplaysgamesikpg8896 7 жыл бұрын
3:58 what my schoolwork looks like...
@maddyclere4080
@maddyclere4080 7 жыл бұрын
HARD SAME
@glo5643
@glo5643 5 жыл бұрын
Same, same...
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 6 жыл бұрын
The Korean animators have to draw the same characters in a different style each time that sounds like a nightmare
@krampusandcordie9035
@krampusandcordie9035 6 жыл бұрын
most cartoons are storyboard driven and most cartoons are also on model
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 жыл бұрын
Spongebob has expressive charcaters and they stay the same size there is no excuse.
@justinisaac6095
@justinisaac6095 7 жыл бұрын
when I see the dimonds its like their growing and shrinking if you dont belive me compare the dimonds in every episode
@airfluds2512
@airfluds2512 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Isaac yea in the movie white was short as heck
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 6 жыл бұрын
Note to self if I ever get my own cartoon show never let the story board artists draw the characters how ever they feel like and make them stick to a style guide
@TheAutobotPower
@TheAutobotPower 7 жыл бұрын
Design inconsistency is annoying and very distracting, no matter how "nice and sweet" sounds that stupid freedom/diversity argument.
@TheJamieKeely
@TheJamieKeely 7 жыл бұрын
TheAutobotPower Calm down
@charadreemurr1818
@charadreemurr1818 7 жыл бұрын
Ok so they should have Hilary and Lauren do all of the episodes with Peridot in them because holy shit everyone else is awful at it!
@RoyalPandemic
@RoyalPandemic 7 жыл бұрын
Ive never noticed the differences to be honest. I would be to invested in the episode to notice Also I still cant get over the storyboarders sketching out that sweet twerking amethyst and then having it say in the notes "Amythest continues silly dance". Its just a beautiful experience from beginning to end xDD
@acookiecruncher1217
@acookiecruncher1217 6 жыл бұрын
ShiShoo ikr xD
@julianna9685
@julianna9685 6 жыл бұрын
I really dislike how short they made peri in that episode...
@dokidoki777
@dokidoki777 6 жыл бұрын
*_It's called visual inconsistency._*
@curlypinkfangirl392
@curlypinkfangirl392 7 жыл бұрын
my mind is blown that the art style switched in the middle of room for ruby and i didnt even notice
@cubwarrior0620
@cubwarrior0620 7 жыл бұрын
I thought it was my screen getting put into its misery when peridot and lapis looked brighter compared to gem harvest in room for ruby!
@sprout4469
@sprout4469 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed the colors are more brighter OwO
@Commonpeople73
@Commonpeople73 2 жыл бұрын
This pissed me off throughout the series, the height proportions were way off and it's not "artist freedom" it's inaccuracy! sometimes peridot is as tall as lapis's shoulder and sometimes she's the height of her knee! and anything in between.... That is a huge gap of how tall she is. Personally I prefer when she's up to lapis's shoulder, she's small but not small enough to lose the edge of what I originally liked about her. Oh and sweet Jesus don't get me started on the hair, triangle hair is already a iffy look but when she was small her hair would be like 2 times her body size and it was so stupid. Keep her height to lapis's shoulder and her hair normal, I think the most accurate they got it was in barn mates but after that it fell apart. Her hair also went from a nice blonde to piss colour and her suit and skin turned neon highlighter colour. Shame
@JLacay
@JLacay 6 жыл бұрын
The reason why for Ian Jones Quartey, a former storyboard artist of Steven Universe and creator of OK KO, go off model because he thinks it's "funny" when characters go off model and to let staff art style be shown. That has to be one of the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. The first thing for a show creator and staff do to is stay on model, even Johnny Test and Teen Titans Go know the concept. This makes them look unprofessional, sloppy and lazy staff that they can't even get the height right. If he wants his staff art to shown, then they can do it online, not on a cartoon show. Like for goodness sake it's their job to be model and they aren't doing what's it required!
@Chilla001
@Chilla001 6 жыл бұрын
I agree although I just want to point out both Johnny Test (beyond season 1) and Teen Titans Go! were both animated in flash. Which means it's almost impossible to go off model.
@mophead3903
@mophead3903 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Sometimes it's fine to go a bit off model for that "funny" aspect but it shouldn't be a consistent thing (unlike the character models). The whole different style crap is just plain stupid because they could just make hem more consistent and have the same style. There are times like I said when it can work like if someone does a big punch that's meant to be cartoony it'll squash and stretch a bit to make it pop more but that shouldn't be all the time on accident due to storyboarders lazy design choices and not ever wanting to stay coincident.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 жыл бұрын
Going off model for a visual joke is fine but Characters should still stay the same size. Like when Spongebob characters go off model they imedately go back to there original design.
@ihadonejob7491
@ihadonejob7491 7 жыл бұрын
Some animators just suck so much at animating or drawing i don't like her appearance in alot of episodes... Even Lapis... Her animations and drawing are so different and terrible. Compare mirror gem appearance and Room for Ruby appearance
@staarry
@staarry 7 жыл бұрын
I had one job animators suck so much?
@vianjelos
@vianjelos 7 жыл бұрын
I had one job story board artist determine the art style not the animators..they follow the art style of the story board...which is weird since most shows have a character modle sheet..SU doesnt really follow one.
@multiplylayerYT
@multiplylayerYT 7 жыл бұрын
personally I think the storyborders were used to peridot being tall when she first lost her limb enhancers. now they're used to smol peridot, which is why it seems as if she's shrinking
@whomilloo
@whomilloo 7 жыл бұрын
Lauren Zuke is the best Storyboarder in my opinion, she just makes it work so smoothly and beautifully 👏🏼❤
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
I really like Lauren too. Especially her Amethyst, Lapis, and Peridot. Sad that she only has a few episodes left to air though.
@whomilloo
@whomilloo 7 жыл бұрын
+Rose's Universe I know, right😭
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Jeff and Colin have been pretty good so far though. But, I will always miss Joe and Jeff boarding together.
@spagari
@spagari 7 жыл бұрын
MJ Lavoto No
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Theocles Saturn I actually didn't know that Lauren identified as they/them until ShadowGirlSwifty's comment. I believe that it is important to use pronouns that people identify with. If I would have known that Lauren identified as non-binary beforehand then I would would have used they/them pronouns instead of she/her.
@pl0shiee
@pl0shiee 6 жыл бұрын
Lauren’s style is my favorite, it’s consistent and the character design usually translates well into the character’s personality. Like giving Lapis frizzy hair is so cool and matches her character really well.
@laughsingay
@laughsingay 2 жыл бұрын
Me: *Accidentally completely stops listening because I've been distracted by the storyboards being shown and has to re-watch like half the video.*
@technicaldifficulties3289
@technicaldifficulties3289 7 жыл бұрын
(Whispers) Lauren is better
@lolabrabo253
@lolabrabo253 7 жыл бұрын
*noded slightly*
@eliss4674
@eliss4674 7 жыл бұрын
(also whispers) i agree
@yukinoneno4079
@yukinoneno4079 7 жыл бұрын
(whispers) shes horrible. I mean she fucking harrassed rebecca and said the crew was abusive and only used her storyboarding to make lapidot canon she even said herself "they (crewniverse) ruined my perfectly written relationship (lapidot) so um yeaaah there is plenty of proof dont let tumblr tell you lies cause its all truth 4chan tells truth
@madelinebitts2766
@madelinebitts2766 7 жыл бұрын
Look, Yukino, I agree with you that some of the stuff Zuke has done is horrible, but you honestly sound a little too young to be going on 4chan, man.
@wackurmole6887
@wackurmole6887 7 жыл бұрын
Quick question: when did zuke harass sugar? I've been searching for an article explaining what you said happened, and all I've found is the """queer baiting""" discourse a few months back, what did she do exactly?
@NicolasMHarrison
@NicolasMHarrison 7 жыл бұрын
That is just due to animation inconsistencies. Like how the diamonds got bigger in their second appearances.
@keasiaalston9450
@keasiaalston9450 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video about Peri
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@keasiaalston9450
@keasiaalston9450 7 жыл бұрын
Rose's Universe no prob Bob😂😂 Heh😅
@atemesmoemseussonhoseuesta6291
@atemesmoemseussonhoseuesta6291 7 жыл бұрын
😂👌🔝
@arizonateabees
@arizonateabees 7 жыл бұрын
I like Lauren's version of lapis Just the darker shade of blue and the messy hair
@DanielaMaria1998
@DanielaMaria1998 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly its not the size variation that bothers me is the colors. The first part has soft warmer colors and then the second part starts and everything turns super bright and almost neon 7:57
@Hi_My_Names_Ryan
@Hi_My_Names_Ryan 7 жыл бұрын
Jeff Liu and Joe Johnson are the best pair
@Hi_My_Names_Ryan
@Hi_My_Names_Ryan 7 жыл бұрын
I heard that Lauren Zuke left the show, is that true because I like her art style
@ItsRebeccaRose
@ItsRebeccaRose 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. Lauren left the show. I think there are only 5 or so episodes left to air that they worked on.
@TheRetroOreo
@TheRetroOreo 7 жыл бұрын
That's a shame, her style was beginning to grow on me. But whenever Zuke and Lamar Abrams were paired together, it ended up looking really off and inconsistent and overall just not very good. But whenever her and Hilary Florido were paired, it worked much better! Not the best (that'd go to Jeff Liu and Joe Johnston as Ryan said) but still very good! It's a shame she left.
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