Still The Best Three Row In America? | 2021 Kia Telluride

After a year of being on sale, is the Telluride still the top dog? While I wish Kia offered a few more paint colors, and the second row isn't as child seat friendly as the Pathfinder, the Telluride excels with the most legroom in the segment, responsive handling, good acceleration, and solid good looks. While there are certainly reasons to buy a Highlander over the Telluride (mainly the available hybrid), I think everyone looking for a 3-row crossover needs to have this Kia on their shopping list.
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[@nwmusic2010]

Every time I see one of these on the road I do a double-take. They’re definitely eye-catching.

[@jakedank2746]

Every time I see one of these on the road I laugh so hard I almost shit my pants .

[@nwmusic2010]

@@jakedank2746 hey, give credit where credit is due. Kia and Hyundai are killing it with styling and value.

[@tonyw2167]

I bought my Telluride SX-P on New Years Day 2020. It’s been almost one year and I still enjoy the look and the drive....and still being stopped by strangers complimenting the car. Absolutely no regret choosing this over the Highlander or Sienna

[@den911]

Great choice! 😸👍

[@Timmywahoo]

No issues on the vehicle, like a Toyota?

[@coltonphillips1]

This suv stands out so much more than any of vehicle going down the road.

[@James-il3tq]

It's an SUV. Blends right in with 95% of all other SUVs on the road. What stands out these days are cars!

[@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName]

Hyundai did it better imo

[@gary.s7759]

How? Its a Range Rover/ Escalade hybrid in looks. An excellent vehicle but doesn't stand out. Mercedes suvs turn my head more than the Telluride(which I own).

[@gary.s7759]

@@titaniumspecial4207 I personally prefer the white DRLs over the amber.

[@2004cyrus]

You are so right about that Colt! You stand out pretty well too! 🤤

[@1227Masher]

Your review is spot on. We purchased a 2021 Telluride SX Prestige with the tow package back in October. Hands down the nicest new car we have ever purchased. That coming from a family that has owned multiple Honda’s, Nissan, Mazda and Cadillacs. Refined is the word that most often comes to mind when we drive it. That - and with three kids - the space on the inside is amazing. Hands down best in the class.

[@positivitywins9213]

Bought my first Kia last year- a 2020 TELLURIDE SX-P, AWD and I have been really happy with it. My cousin was sold on getting the Highlander until he drove my Telluride. He went out and bought one the next day. It’s a great vehicle!

[@MeliorIlle]

Let's hear your opinion after two more years.

[@positivitywins9213]

@@MeliorIlle Well, it’s now been 18 months since I posted that comment and I have had no issues-the car is still perfect in every way-not even a rattle. My cousin as well-he’s had zero issues but I’ll let you know in another 6 months. All kidding aside, it’s a great vehicle and has won numerous awards including 2020 WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR. Kia has come a long way.

[@MeliorIlle]

@@positivitywins9213 Let's hope you don't have any issues in a car that isn't even two years old.

[@Timmywahoo]

@@positivitywins9213 So the Koreans have a good track record so far, compared to the Toyotas. Good Info, the Tule is selling well. I am torn comparing the reliability, but am leaning toward the new kid on the street, want to drive both and see for sure.

[@vikpagpatanOT]

Best automotive reviewer on KZbin

[@kirkkempen6205]

I've had my EX for 15 months now. Absolutely love the car! Nothing else comes close for the money.

[@fabulousprofound]

How is the reliability? Lots of comments here about reliability but few of them are from actual owners…

[@sDeezyeazy]

I need an AoA mug that says "Red turn signals, not my preference."

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

www.aoamerch.com/product-page/save-the-amber-lamps

[@CumBrianFries]

What's wrong with red turn signals? I actually prefer them since they blend in well with the taillights, which are always red.

[@BeyondLumination]

@@CumBrianFries that's exactly what's wrong with them. They "blend in well", therefore making them ineffective as a way to indicate turning.

[@CumBrianFries]

@@BeyondLumination I see, but they're still flashing while you're indicating though. I've never had any issues driving behind cars with red turn signals, could always tell when they're about to change lanes. lol

[@ZapFlashD]

@@CumBrianFries For me personally, I don't mind if cars have red turn signals. The only requirement I need from cars that do have them is for them to be their own bulb and not double as the brake lights.

[@TomWilson8003]

This is one of the best reviews I've ever watched. You are extremely knowledgeable about this vehicle which I own, and all the competition across all the features. I've owned two Suburbans, two Tahoes, two Lexus RX's and a GX and two Honda Odysseys - all fully loaded vehicles. This is by far my favorite. It is a joy to drive and virtually drives itself. As I live in Wisconsin, I'd like to see a good snow (deep) and ice review (with and without Finish snow tires).

[@abcdLeeXY]

Alex on autos is truly the best channel to get all the information on a vehicle, objectively and subjectively.

[@martinth2529]

We love our 2020 Telluride SX AWD Prestige! After almost 21k miles no problems at all. Smooth ride and super comfortable. Buy one or two

[@Thamac15]

How slow is it? Less than 300 hp/tq from a 2021 suv? Lmfao should call it the Kia Slowride.

[@martinth2529]

@@Thamac15 My wife hasn’t complained, it’s her car. I’m pretty sure most people buying this segment of vehicles don’t care about sprinting 0-60, especially with kids in the back.

[@kpunjani1]

How much was it with prestige package?

[@martinth2529]

@@kpunjani1 we bought the car back in July of 2019 and the MSRP was $46,500

[@kpunjani1]

@@martinth2529 thankyou

[@charlieboozer82]

The black wheels on the SX are what make it stand out in a good way, in my opinion. Best lookin crossover hands down.

[@JohnThomWebb]

Agreed. I see a couple people on here who don't like them but I think it's the most attractive part of the vehicle.

[@SS-wm1wy]

@@JohnThomWebb Gloss black look does not belong on a part that will roll through dust or mud. Gets dirty way too easily

[@JokerG16]

@@SS-wm1wy but easier to clean off. Silver rims get and remain so dirty

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

Alex, I honestly don't know how you do it! You manage to cram soooooo much info into your videos -- it's just astounding! Great Job! As usual!

[@Timmywahoo]

He has done a great job on his side Hussle, well done Alex!

[@stewartstarling2309]

I absolutely love the Telluride, there's a few of the S and SX in my neighborhood, and the Palisade, I like the Telluride much better. A better presence on the road 🛣️ Kia is on fire.

[@mrsj1417]

That's the problem: Kia is literally on fire. As in, their engines. I don't care how nice the seats are or what it looks like, I don't trust them.

[@stewartstarling2309]

You're absolutely correct. But they are doing more than what most companies would do to rectify the problem and while doing it l, putting out better engineered and manufactured products. I currently own a 2019 Kia Soul, and I don't regret the purchase. I also own a RDX, GX470, various Lotus' and a Spa XC90, a Cadillac and a Nissan.

[@OlJackBurton]

The Palisade just needs better exterior looks/design and slightly more cargo room and it's every bit as good or even better than the Telluride...

[@dretech]

Telluride is not easy to find in the dealer lot here in NorCal, unlike Pilot & Highlander. In fact Telluride is the hottest Kia ever for so many reasons. Great job, Kia!

[@devongee1776]

Funny thing is I got a Ford ad opening this video. "Shopping Kia Telluride? Compare it to the Ford Explorer..." Me: Nope *skip*

[@OlJackBurton]

Ford wishes their Explorer could compare with the Telluride. They could lop $10k off of sticker, and they'd still lose...

[@alextran8188]

@@OlJackBurton yet its still the best selling SUV in America..

[@OlJackBurton]

@@alextran8188 I forgot to mention. While Kia dealers are still selling the Tellurides close to sticker price and mostly higher trim versions, Ford (factory and dealers combined) actually is lopping nearly $10k off of high trim 2020 sticker prices to move their 2021 Explorers off the lot since the 2021s (only out a couple months, since Ford botched the 2020 release so badly) are already selling below invoice. This after they already lowered the MSRP by $4-5k. Ford is expected to sell about 220k Explorers in 2020, but over 50k Explorers were sold to fleets, rental car companies and police departments. The new Highlander has actually outsold the Explorer outright the last 4 months at the pace of about 260k units a year, and expected to outsell it for December as well, and that is without fleet sales. The next Pilot will also probably sell in somewhat similar but lower numbers. The Telluride is clearly limited by supply and clearly more desirable than the Highlander based on average transaction prices. If they had 300,000 of them to sell instead of the less than 80,000 they're going to sell in 2020 for a car that was specifically designed for the US (the Telluride isn't sold or made in S. Korea like the Palisade), they would easily sell them all, independent of Palisade sales, although not as close to sticker...

[@Mohamed-jb9yx]

@@OlJackBurton American brands suck ngl

[@ga-america5030]

@@alextran8188 does that include police cruiser sales? And history sales?

[@tuple4986]

I own a SX AWD since May 2019. I 👍 💘 it. I still like watching reviews.

[@interlaken]

Wowow -- you reallllly do a GREAT job on your videos with great and easy-to-follow stats. Thanks!

[@borg386]

My 2011 kia sportage has 314,000 miles on it and is running perfectly. It has never broke down, has no leaks, or rust. And everything still works on it. We still drive a weekly average of 400+ till this day. I wish I had the money to get this beast of Telluride.

[@autonewstv86]

Simplicity, reliability, value for money !!! 👌🏆👍

[@soapbox187]

reliability? kia? hahahaha

[@2004cyrus]

You nailed it

[@anthonyfanella6523]

Yes get out from the rock you've been under. Kia/Hyundai have been skyrocketing in their reliability while everyone else seems to have stagnated (except toyota).

[@kevinm2025]

💩💩💩💩💩ride

[@anthonyfanella6523]

@@B2359 Bummer, my dad had a 2007 Elantra he drove for 280K miles and only routine maintenance/fluid changes. Only got rid of it for a 2018 because the frame rusted out from underneath it. Sorry to hear about your bad experience! I have a 2020 Rio that is an absolute joy to drive so far.

[@darrelpeters]

Telluride and Palisade to all three row crossovers: “Hold my beer”

[@mjss1984]

want to just give input, I think it should be "hold my soju". =)

[@kevinm2025]

What a pile of 💩💩💩 come back in five years and tell me

[@Thamac15]

With an engine that is comparable to the outdated 4Runner with less than 300 hp/tq,...it’s more like “Kia Slowride”. It’s not holding anything, but a weak ass engine. Good gawd that is weak.

[@westisinmyblood1240]

@@arrogen2831 lmao. Surly lucky or you're using your cars 10x more careful than others.

[@westisinmyblood1240]

@@arrogen2831 obviously. Or it is like exception can't be an example.

[@andrewschwartz7026]

Best reviews on KZbin. Thank you!

[@NukePooch1]

Thank you, thank you for the towing review! Most reviews just say the capacity, but don't actually give anything beyond that....

[@Jonathan-rm6kt]

This might be the most comprehensive review I've ever seen.. Of anything. Thanks!

[@Rebelleflwr]

I really want a highlander hybrid because I am big on gas mileage and long term reliability. But this Telluride has a lot of features for families and more 3rd row storage!

[@geraldf4193]

Love my 2021 Telluride.

[@rogersmj]

22:20 “Fuel economy has never really been Kia’s forte...” I love how you do that in almost every Kia video.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

The horse isn't quite dead....

[@dionisevanopon2528]

But they have kia forte.. 😂😂

[@s.j.1298]

On the top end trims they need to allow for three seat bench in the second row

[@markdiloreto9042]

totally agree....canadian versions of the sx get second row bench and 20' POLISHED WHEELS!!!

[@joskjj3625]

Anyone remember the highlander review were Alex’s pants matched with the seat?

[@BradHanson]

Wow, incredibly informative video. Nicely done.

[@swishpronoob]

Love your videos!

[@ranger2316]

I am so done with the black-out trim packages. Alex, you did a great and objective review here and I appreciate it. Having said that, I'm still hanging in there to purchase a Hyundai Palisade when the supply/demand curve finally flattens out. I just personally think the Palisade looks more refined and better meets my needs at this point in my life. I'm presently driving a 2012 Dodge Durango Citadel with the hemi engine. We've had great luck with it and really like it, but it's getting time to get something newer. Thanks for the review.

[@geosh10]

I looked at one, most dealerships wanted $5,000 over sticker. Close to $50,000 grand, I bought a low mileage certified Audi Q7 for the same price. If you don’t need a huge SUV look at a certified luxury SUV for the same price as the Telluride SX trim but with a lot better customer service and loaner cars for service work.

[@alvaroquispe1014]

Hi alex, ive been following your channel since uffff and i love it , i never miss an episode of your channel 🤗, im from peru and i was wondering if you know if the tellurride is coming to latin america any time? Congrats for your channel, one of the best in youtube

[@stephenhendricks103]

A truly remarkable vehicle. It's a bit too big for my needs. That's why God...I mean KIA...has given us the Sorento. Great review as always, Alex. Happy holidays.

[@shelisasimmonds817]

Too bad the newest Sorento has NO MEMORY seats and the hybrid isn't available with AWD...

[@firstlast7584]

@@shelisasimmonds817 2022 Sorento does have memory, if you need AWD go with the PHEV

[@sergebasque8460]

Excellent content again 👍

[@Superfastjellyfish669]

Kia did an amazing job with this vehicle

[@jamesnardini]

The styling of the Telluride looks like a step above its class. It’s handsome, not fussy and the design should hold the test of time. On the other hand, The Highlander is handsome, but it doesn’t punch above its class. I also have a hard time with the rear 3/4 bumper view. It looks like someone backed in to it (or the driver backed in to something). It’s a deep crease that doesn’t do it any favors. It’s almost like Toyota built in the famous “Camry dent” in the rear bumper. The Palisade is also handsome but far more Asian looking. That will appeal to some buyers but the Telluride looks like it could be an American car (which, it is, both in design and build) which has a great appeal to the American buyer. Great review Alex. Keep them coming.

[@modernsoccer1860]

Also the Telluride is overpriced, the base models are going for 50k plus USD, and mid to top trim is in the 60k + ish. That's too much for this segment. It's MDX , RX 350 territory and this is definitely not there yet

[@harpreetbhatiani5228]

Hey Alex, great review as always. How do you compare the 3.8l in telluride vs 2.5 t on the Sorento 8 speed dct . I see that that 0-60 numbers are relatively same for both these vehicles. Which engine is good overall in your opinion ?

[@waynetcampbell]

Thank you for the in depth review. Planning on getting a white one and a can of spray paint to change the color of those black wheels.

[@davidbundesen5867]

Fantastic review. And I’ve seen a bunch of them.

[@pistolpete6321]

Excellent video!

[@TaylorYangOrDie]

Thank you for the review~

[@insomnia5050]

Simple smart styling inside and out, it should age gracefully.

[@joebrown9621]

The Highlander does look like a Subaru and from half fender forward it has traits of a veloster.. The Sorento seems like a xse or TRD version of what the Highlander should have been.. The Telluride is just chic 😎👌

[@dougutubeify]

best product review in any category. ever.

[@SH-xh1wi]

Best review as usual!👍 I like the front end looks and spacious interior.

[@trent7080]

Why don't you compare it to the Traverse and Explorer?

[@rkkaranja1902]

KIA simply nailed it. Love all the standard features that most brands should emulate.

[@jrwaters943]

These things are so good looking for the mainstream segment. They have a premium vibe inside that you simply don’t get in something like the Pilot or Atlas. I looked at a very well equipped EX with Nightfall Package last night and retuned this morning and it was already sold. It’s crazy how well this is selling. Let’s hope they manage to improve on it as the years progress without messing it up (i.e. I had a 2006 Pilot and would have went for a newer model had Honda not cheapened the interior when it was a redesigned - the 3rd generation is better but too rounded and now looks just like a Minivan)

[@jwm702]

Made in Georgia!!

[@TJW68]

Any chance you could compare the Telluride to the GV80?

[@kavitamakdani]

Any idea how it compares to XC90 especially with regards to 3rd row space and cargo with 3rd row occupied . Thanks

[@ohnoitsmichael]

Will you make a sorento sx x line vs telluride sx comparison video?

[@patrolzero1]

Hi Alex, really love and appreciate your videos. Can you do a video on cars comparing panoramic sun roofs in 3 row crossovers? I have 3 children who appreciate the view when driving in Manhattan, from their car seats. Going from a Santa Fe looking at the Palisade but I am losing the panoramic roof. Thanks.

[@koraytugay]

And storage space with 3rd row folded? And how easy it is to fold them?

[@blackedout5.0fan39]

Hello Alex! I really like your review of the Telluride. May I please ask how it compares to the Subaru Ascent please? Thank you! :)

[@jerrytorrence7325]

Alex, i have been unable to find the update on the KIA Serento 2.5t could not find the link to your update on the Kia Serento could you please give me the direct link to this update, it would help me a lot,thank you Alex.

[@GerryStilton]

Alex, thanks for the great video. For me, I would like to see the amber tail light turn signal and the dashboard blind spot monitor like the Palisade that changes depending on which side is turned. Oh yeah, there should be another wheel color choice.

[@Wasabi9111]

Agree w the preference for amber turn signals. But I prefer the Kia center blind spot monitor. I like my steering wheel set low, which usually blocks my view of the left and right dials.

[@bradschertz6736]

Love the VW Atlas!! Nice review thanks for sharing.

[@eskieman3948]

junk

[@shelisasimmonds817]

I like the black wheels- getting a Black one, with the SX Prestige and Nightfall packages. I can't wait!

[@sachinkaushik2064]

I never considered Atlas to be a serious contender due to its sluggish engine performance in comparison but your other insights like child seat maneuver in 2nd row has changed my mind. I think between all, Sorento followed by Atlas seem to be quite good proposition. Waiting for Pathfinder's review now, since I heard its getting a 9 speed shift.

[@MythosGandaar]

This is such a nice car, I really want them to put a next gen electric powertrain in future models.

[@tylerdegrand3034]

How did it tow compared to the Atlas?

[@JamesRussoMillas]

Any chance Alex gets to say "Kia's Forte" he takes it lmao

[@OlJackBurton]

It's starting to get old and predictable...

[@wannabedal-adx458]

@@OlJackBurton I love it and use it myself anytime i get!!!

[@2004cyrus]

That’s his schtick

[@2004cyrus]

@@OlJackBurton oh Jack don’t tell us you are about to boycott this channel. Alex is amazing!

[@OlJackBurton]

@@2004cyrus Hell no. I tend to like his corny jokes, even as predictable as they've become. The whole, you know, wait for it...kee kee kee...

[@tonywong9105]

Hey Alex, putting the child seats accommodations aside for VW Atlas which you seem to be a bit obsessed about lol, do you still love VW Atlas more than the Kia Telly?

[@mahao20]

Where would you rank the new pathfinder against telluride

[@deandrethompson5341]

Any concerns about long-term carbon buildup on the Telluride's GDI engine?

[@abdulmajeedmajrad8814]

Anything on the new pathfinder coming out soon?

[@johnl9337]

I fully agree with you. I dislike the black wheel trend

[@seagullsbtn]

Highlander styling is too complicated in a bad way like GM tends to be. But the badge will make many sales. I like to combine legroom+Headroom+shoulder room to determine usable interior size. Makes decisions even more interesting....

[@AnsrMax]

Also factor in the bench length. Not sure about Koreans, but Japanese brands have been known to shrink the bench for better legroom numbers.

[@keithsteck432]

I love the black wheels.

[@tk9839]

me too plus it won't look dirty as much...

[@senorgato70]

Put the V-6 from the Stinger in this with wider tires and I’ll write a check, even as a single bachelor. Though I do hate the taillights and headlights.

[@EricFortuneJr.]

1:20 I agree with you on the Highlander, I’ve thought the same about the Nissan Pathfinder as well. I’d imagine legroom has a lot to do with this. Some models are getting longer and less upright.

[@Timmywahoo]

6.4 and loving the longer driver seat, how about you.

[@anderacpharmd]

How would this compare to the Buick Enclave?

[@AbeNissen]

I own a Telluride, and you are unfortunately incorrect regarding CarPlay not being fullscreen. There is a toggle in settings to eithe rsplit CarPlay or to make it fullscreen. Unfortunately, the default is split screen which IMHO is the wrong default. Please correct the video.

[@joetacchino4470]

Buddy of mine just tried to buy one of these in NJ. The dealer wanted $5k over. On a Kia Telluride. I mean, it’s nice, but come on. He ended up with a Palisade and is happier.

[@Dwilsonmusic145]

Some of these dealers are taking advantage of the fact there are literally none of these to sell and demand is high. If any kia dealer wants over sticker don't even entertain them just walk out the door. The only reason why it's marked over sticker is because some joker actually will pay it! But the car is only worth whay we as consumers collectively agree to pay for it and that should be msrp!

[@jjhi2760]

I totally agree that the top trim should offer a non-black option for the wheels

[@FireFcuks]

Like the car, but are they reliable?

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

How does the space on this compare to a Mercedes Metris?

[@bill7481]

Great SUV! I wish Kia would offer the top trim with a second row bench option.

[@Ojisan642]

So it has a cargo area cover, but captains chairs in the 2nd row? Seems kinda dumb if you can see into the cargo area from the forward windows.

[@rogerworkman5813]

So which one is the best for reliability, the Kia Telluride or the Toyota Highlander? Thank you for your videos. Roger.PS Happy New Year!

[@faceclutch5555]

Toyota Highlander is definitely more reliable.

[@thejake8099]

Really?? Shame on you for questioning Toyota's reliability... they've earned that from decades and decades of refining their products

[@matthewgeissinger2856]

Am I old school because I prefer the analog gauges? Not a huge fan of the full LCD displays.

[@plixie1]

How much two inches can make a or breaj a space. We saw a higherlander and wondered where the space was. Went to kia next and was blown and away and drove away like we stole it

[@Drogos79]

according to official websites, toyota highlander has more cargo space behind 2nd row ...?

[@tritchie6272]

I like the body styling of the Assent better than the Highlander. I think a comparison between the Assent and the Telluride would be interesting. I suspect the engine and transmission of the Telluride will be better. But I'm not sure about the rest. Wonder which has the better AWD system.

[@ZiggyBoon]

I could be wrong, but black rims wouldn't show road dirt & grime as much compared to chrome/silver-colored.

[@stevenreichertart]

Thanks for a thorough review. I’m puzzled by the cargo room in all vehicles in this class. Using the third row compromises cargo room in the back greatly. If I’m hauling 6-7 humans, I will need much more cargo room than the little space that’s offered. Humans come with lots of stuff. That leaves the only option of going up to a Suburban or minivan.

[@Timmywahoo]

We miss our Suburban with the 350cc, but the Tule might fill the void, 3rd row optional for the gkids, will appreciate the extra space vs the RX350. Looks like the Korean's are closing on Toyota products,

[@kencoleman8929]

Agreed Alex, no black rims for me! Not sure why they force them on top-end trims. At least give another option. Also, that Atlas SEL Premium R-line is looking really good! 👍👍

[@Timmywahoo]

I beg to differ respectively, the dark rims are really nice, just saying variety is the spice of life eh LOl

[@lauratempestini5719]

Do moon roofs open?

[@joskjj3625]

Wished it had a hybrid powertrain

[@JT-fq2bl]

I agree. Hopefully H/K can give us a Smartstream 2.0t version of the 2.5t.

[@viki6or]

This and the hyundai cousin are realy good. 80% of a mercedes for 40% money

[@haze1123]

With double the warranty.

[@ZapFlashD]

More reliability as well. Perhaps not as much as some older Toyotas but for the things this offers for that price, how could I pass it up?

[@tk9839]

Also more standard features...

[@bfish9700]

I really like the telluride, for a while I thought I was going to buy one. However, I'm not a fan that the SX hasn't been upgraded to full lcd dash, I don't like the split moonroof and dealers here have them marked up crazily over MSRP. The sorento looks good but disappointed the top trim doesn't come with ambient lighting.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

I would hazard a guess that 2022 might bring a few more tweaks.

[@cachegrk]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide I am so confused between mdx2022 and telluride and somehow like telluride engine and the punchiness. It will be helpful with a video comparing between telluride and mdx 2022

[@silentmajority2028]

Suggestions Dual exhaust Wiper under rear spoiler

[@alaskasoundguy2838]

What does snow mode do

[@summerday3172]

Black wheels look like a base model.

[@koraytugay]

Let me guess the cabin noise.. 70db? Alex, there is smth going on with your testing, how come all cars have 69 71 db noise in cabin?

[@Wasabi9111]

Hehe. And they’re all rated “A”.

[@joebrown9621]

The ergonomics of the Telluride makes more sense than the VW Atlas as rear facing child seat are for about a year and if someone keeps the vehicle for 5 years kids are going to spend majority of that time front facing making the Telluride more practical

[@kirkkempen6205]

Also, reliability of the Atlas (and every other VW) is horrible.

[@cdkx655]

I gave up on it and got something else. Sure it's priced competitively in theory, but they still don't make anywhere near enough to satisfy demand. So the price difference is quite pronounced when you will be paying MSRP at best (top trims in my area are regularly several thousand above MSRP still), and you can still get the competitors for significantly off MSRP. And that's just the sale price, if you're financing it, the difference is even more pronounced because you won't find low APR manufacturer financing for that one any time soon. Still love it, but not enough to just ignore how expensive it is over the direct competition.