I Played LONG BALL in Football Manager!?

[@McJoeo]

I like that the first signing for a team dedicated to hoof ball was a La Masia graduate

[@StingerNeilD]

Introduce him to the dark side

[@tempejkl]

@@StingerNeilD😂😂

[@guiness1100]

Old school "Route 1" style!!! Stinger bringing back the glory days of Wimbledon with John Fashnu and Vinny Jones and the boys. Great work.

[@StingerNeilD]

Exactly that. Fashunu always put high pressure on centre backs

[@leboeuf05]

i actually love football like this. much more exciting imo. i cant play long ball on fm11 or 12. ive tried till im blue in the face. the striker/s just constantly drift out of position. was good watching this tho. great stuff

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you 🫡

[@dnagreergand6754]

was my dream to see a tactic like that having success :)

[@StingerNeilD]

Moderate success but success all the same 😂🫡

[@StingerNeilD]

Hope you enjoy! Sorry for the delay in uploading. Real World daytime job got in the way and it was a big edit. ❤

[@davidsands351]

Love this. I’m doing something very similar. As an experiment Took Harrogate town but used the editor to create above average div 2 players (all 75 CA). 4-4-2. Very direct. Balanced mentality. Gk on defend, 2 full backs on support, 2 no nonsense centre backs, wingers on support, 2 bwm on defend, and a target forward and poacher up top. Comparison shows we are worst team in league for technicals, but one of best for physicals.

[@blitosz]

Inverted wingers or byline wingers ? Real question

[@davidsands351]

@@blitosz byline wingers. Wanted to go old school

[@ant777live]

Nelson Wieper is amazing for hoof ball with his 17 jumping reach, 15 heading and 16 finishing...even though I'm managing Liverpool, sometimes I find that hoof ball works really well, playing a 442 diamond with a shadow striker to follow up Wieper and Sesko ahead...and defenders like Diomande (15 passing and 17 vision), and great crossers at FB like Porro Porro, TAA and Connor Bradley...I rermember watching Norway beat Brazil in the 98 world cup playing hoof ball with lots of long diagonal passes from their full backs and have always been a bit of a fan since

[@StingerNeilD]

Good insights 🫡

[@nkdintherain6763]

found your channel a few days ago and I absolutely love it

[@StingerNeilD]

I appreciate you giving me a chance 👍

[@EnormeEkoH]

the issue with direct passing for me is that players no matter what always play long balls, even if theres a much more effective and easy pass. what might work is to have defenders on direct passing + not forcing the build up with defenders and using shorter passings, so MAYBE the defenders pass it long to the target striker or on the speedy wingers and then the players around are gonna play it short, to create an actuale goal chance. in my mind it works, gotta see on the engine lol. (also maybe i had players not suited for it)

[@nevillechima805]

You are right. Turn of play out of defense in ME, you will then notice that you can increase each of your defenders passing directness while on shorter passing. This is how you get it done. Very good on WBs when you are chasing a game but the AI drops deep

[@mattylamb9194]

I'd prefer to have an attacking mentality and not so many passing instructions

[@Pogmothoin17]

Mctominay is a legend for me on fm24. I signed him for West Ham and tried a similar approach to you, I wanted tall strong plays. I won the league first season and McTominary was one of my best players. Had him on S Vol on attack.

[@upcomingweeb136]

The board obviously got the budget for the premier league from the playoff prize. I don't know the actual amount but it is a lot of money. Greater video btw

[@StingerNeilD]

I agree I was just surprised they gambled and gave me that much

[@yb3604]

i've been waiting for this one i unironically love the idea of this playstyle dope video

[@brunobernardicoutinho1741]

Ah, yes, I can hear "Rule Britannia" playing in the background Gotta miss this proper english football. Unfortunately, nowadays some bald dude broke football and now you have everyone playing 4-2-3-1 and Colchester and Blackpool are trying to pass the ball around instead of roofing it to the big man the way God intended.

[@luigimassaro8003]

My man, keep working on this amazing experiment/content… Love your videos… Cheers from 🇮🇹

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you very much! GRAZZI

[@hewstonwehaveaproblem]

I can't help noticing that the season after relegation Burnley made the Conference League... Burnley won the Carabao Cup. Noice

[@StingerNeilD]

I always miss these things

[@rspjfrost1400]

actually a much needed video. have been at clubs which want Direct Passing as a Board Objective

[@LucasHadi]

Ah so basically this is my country Indonesia type of football few years ago, long ball, run and hope for the best, then gassed out after 60 min of play 😂😂

[@StingerNeilD]

😂😂😂🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

[@kieran3896]

Since Gengen press etc work all based on Physical stats plus pressing it would be interesting to see this experiment, long ball, conducted based on high technical attributes. That is playing hoof ball with players with 20 for vision/passing etc. I theorise with how the match engine works this would be the best way to utilize these players (as backward as this may sound). Like imagine Xavi or Modric pinging the ball forward deep to a striker in space up front, it makes sense to me.

[@StingerNeilD]

Be a cool thing to try

[@andrewtaylor6263]

I bought Kyle Hudlin for Liverpool once just to see how he did as a target forward, he scored some goals but never improved surprisingly 😅

[@crz1133]

Sean Dyche would be proud, thats proper football, Son!

[@Geokinkladze]

Always choose the "Put the ball into the box, get a few elbows flying about" half time team talk option.

[@NJTRAF]

I’m kind of in the process of doing something similar now, took over Newcastle to try to replicate the classic 4-4-2 with a Little & Large combination up front with a Target Man and Poacher, Long Kicks from the Goalkeeper, Traditional Wingers etc. … Pre-Season it’s pretty decent but I’m not sure if it’ll be like that when it matters!

[@Loublade]

Superb video mate. How refreshing to see a long ball tactic work!

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you bud. 'Worked ' is a bit strong though 😂

[@Dakrih]

Another enjoyable video, might have to give this a go with a club with a more substantial budget...like Man Utd...and turn McTominay into a goal machine 🤭

[@soundscapemusic8980]

Reminds me of an FM20 save I did with Burnley. Average height in my squad was 6’2 😂. I remember my wingbacks scoring so many headers on attack duty

[@StingerNeilD]

Perfect 😂

[@AnssiBanssi]

usually dont copy tactics but managing in finland this has really helped me out!

[@StingerNeilD]

Glad it's helped 🫡

[@michaelh878]

I am playing hoofball with Everton on a 2001/2 database. Signed Crouch to be a backup for Bid Dunc as the big man. Bellamy and Andy Johnson for the flick ons and balls over the top.

[@StingerNeilD]

Sounds the perfect combo

[@gokalpozyurt2562]

9:34 Mert Hakan Yandaş tek başına oynuyor rakibiyle tek başına

[@Steve-1978]

Great content & presentation dude!

[@StingerNeilD]

Appreciate it!

[@benjaminforget5084]

That is really cool to see! I always seem to play the same type of football any tactic I create or team I play with. Maybe I'll try something like this some time!

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you! Was a fun change to make

[@VRNocturne]

Good job making that work. I've tried long passing but I find my players make too many stupid passes right to the other team. They do that enough when I tell them to keep it shorter and take your time. When I crank up directness and tempo - its like my people are blind. It's one thing to have low possession because you're a vertical offense, but it's another when you're just giving away the ball with stupid "passes". Maybe direct and low tempo. Maybe they can pick out passes better. I don't really like shorter passes, it just seems more reliable with how players make decisions (at least in FM23).

[@mattylamb9194]

Well, that is what happens in real life with "hoofball" or even direct long ball passing. Like he says, it's a low possession rate tactic

[@mathur932]

Hey stinger I know you love a pep tactic 😂 idk about you but for me the most entertaining football I’ve ever seen in the prem was 18/19 city with the natural wingers. I’d love to see a recreation of that!

[@rickpenny767]

Nice video mate. Subscribed!

[@StingerNeilD]

Cheers for giving me a chance Rick

[@ehienkenneth7749]

I love you man.. I subscribed too

[@husseinfakih6864]

Man I love your videos

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you 🫡

[@robertvries1]

Great video! Video's like this make me want to start a new safe and try to it too. Cheers

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you! It's really tough. Recruitment for physical players is the way

[@andrei47]

Finally, my dream video is here! You are built for hoofball Neil, keep the videos coming! 🤝😊

[@StingerNeilD]

Will do!

[@AW-kr9fl]

I love hoof ball with a big man up front and aggressive tacklers in defence and midfield

[@StingerNeilD]

Same my friend!

[@IntrepidFC]

“My wife’s Nan’s football club, my Nan’s too…” What?

[@StingerNeilD]

Pretty simple to understand... I lost my grandparents, I married my wife, her nan treats me like im her grandson. Nan-inlaw

[@thanors1492]

Have you got a set piece routine you use i mean i love the goals from throwings i want to try this. Another great video my top notch creator

[@StingerNeilD]

This was simply just selecting long throw and having big players on the box

[@0utcast_x]

Neil this is a great video. I have been entertained. ❤

[@StingerNeilD]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@d-barb172]

Forget the real world mate. Live exclusively in the digital realm - it’s far less annoying.

[@januskryger]

This was the love story I needed

[@StingerNeilD]

🫡

[@Pajiolol]

My first time playing fm I played route one because why fans wanted it. And I had no idea how to do tactics and I won the Czech first division with a horrible team doing it

[@paulpearcy6282]

Good video try FC Augsburg they have some good units for this to work

[@NeoCherrn]

Love that old school hoofin'

[@balkovecblaz]

This is awesome vid!

[@StingerNeilD]

Thanks!

[@Fortunaatp]

Would you consider continuing this? I’d love to see you trying to compete for CL or PL

[@DanielTheFreak]

My guy, this is pure art. You love to see it 🥹🫡

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you

[@someguy7897]

Great video!

[@StingerNeilD]

Thanks!

[@leonardoluizleal4409]

Didn't eat my breakfast with ur video, but my lunch will do nicely.

[@StingerNeilD]

I was a little late today

[@leonardoluizleal4409]

@@StingerNeilD such a beautiful story, great video and editing.

[@michaelowen50]

Will you continue until you win the premier league? This seemed fun

[@pb5531]

Love hoofball. Try it every season

[@muhammadilhamakbar3083]

in fm 2020 i played 4-2-4 cross more often and score ++90 goals per season

[@matthewhoward-white463]

Tony Pulis would be proud.

[@netking767]

Fun!!

[@PadreDePato]

At least you had a quantum of Solis

[@minimichihota1371]

Love your videos and please start a rebuild series

[@StingerNeilD]

Thank you. In a way these are rebuild types but I think I'll leave traditional Rebuilds to Omega Luke, he's the best at them 👍

[@TheAngrySportsfan01]

True Brexit football.. brings a tear to my eyes.. Stoke or Burnley in their prime..

[@StingerNeilD]

🫡

[@HolyMolyFC]

i love kickball

[@bbbbear9]

Did you use any player instructions?

[@teckter]

Can you try playmakers only if it hasn’t been done before?

[@lourencoteles8414]

Route one, to be run effectively needs a cautious approach defensively. The only "risky" instruction that isn't contradictory to route one is high press (which is advisable to use). You have no penetration in both flanks with a NFB + Winger S/DW S set up. If you use a NBD/FB/WB D you need to pair him up with a W/WM A. A WB D + W A on the right and a FB S + WM S on the left would be the most optimal choices. You don't have enough players responsible for providing attacking cover with a SV S and a SV A. If you wanna use a SV, use one on support paired with a BWM D, every other set up with a SV will lack something in terms of positional responsibilities and SVs aren't particularly great for route one. You also need to be much more aggressive offensively than what you are, to have any chance of creating high xG chances. Route one also runs better in Cautious or Defensively, anything over Balanced and it seizes to be route one and it most likely becomes a wing play.

[@jakewallsgrove1977]

Do you use any pis?

[@nicolas8210]

La media inglesa present!

[@i.blomen]

Wondering if this playing style could ever win the prem in FM

[@StingerNeilD]

I doubt it. Could always try with City

[@Domszie]

Wycombe get so much hate but I don't care. We used to be a nice squeaky clean club but Ainsworth 'anti football' established a mindset and culture into our club. I enjoy this style of football and how much it irritates people

[@StingerNeilD]

I enjoy it too. It used to be the norm now it's the exception and that's cool in my eyes

[@Domszie]

@StingerNeilD it also low key went unnoticed that Klopp would play quite a direct style of football but those players could also play their way out of trouble

[@bpdhoplite]

lots of edits and sound effects lol maybe a bit much for moi gets distracting but banger vid

[@StingerNeilD]

Cheers for the feedback

[@Abhi_810-s9b]

🔥

[@kevinscott4938]

I’m so playing this style!!!

[@AhmadIImaduddin]

We got Steve Bruce new gen here! 😅

[@jackarcher5309]

It’s here 🤤🍿

[@jackarcher5309]

And it’s perfect 🥹

[@jekanyika]

18:50 Why not name Hibs?

[@StingerNeilD]

I didn't overthink that 🤷 I have nothing against hibs btw 😂

[@100thingsFilmPod]

Big Sam has nothing on you!

[@StingerNeilD]

Inspired by big sam

[@davidjennings936]

Old school bolton or stoke

[@yessirdragon5653]

442 boys

[@adratatouille]

I swear bro got 2k subscribers like few weeks ago😭😭

[@GAMEiNGSWAG]

Reminds me of a zealand tactic

[@lehcetulhakayik]

17:56 Burnley won Carabao lol

[@StingerNeilD]

Good eye my friend

[@WritingGeekNL]

(Kick + Rush)² Kick² + 2KickRush + Rush ²

[@james2529]

Sam Allardyce never clicked on a video so fast

[@StingerNeilD]

😂😂

[@gai_visual1764]

Stoke City?

[@ThreeRunHomer]

High press? I assumed you’d play a low block for hoof ball.

[@StingerNeilD]

Hard working strikers putting pressure on defenders. That's how I watched Wimbledon in the 90s. More than one way to do it

[@GunOfDeath13]

is there a tactic i can download i would love to try this

[@StingerNeilD]

It's in my patreon, might give the tactic its own video on my 2nd channel

[@Reyaosa]

how do you get no noncence full back?

[@StingerNeilD]

It's just one of the full back roles you can choose

[@KrombobulousMitchell]

Quality😂

[@MichaelNnnachetam]

classic bistol bottlejob 😂

[@ЛеонидПарамонов-з7ч]

Now tactic without pressing

[@juanmanuelmanjarresfranco]

Do a video where each game you do a number formation every game. Example: game 1 is number 1, game 2 is number two until you get sacked

[@jeremyjonker972]

It never works by me, the way I exactly want

[@StingerNeilD]

This was a struggle at times

[@MasterF3]

Do you think this could win the Champions League?

[@StingerNeilD]

I doubt it but maybe in a one off match ...

[@g8le]

I wonder how many FM players actually use those pre-set tactics. Seems completely pointless to me.

[@StingerNeilD]

Not many. New people to the game, but they aren't great

[@cedric9292]

loans loans loans loans🎶🎵🎵🎶🎵

[@sld1776]

"Where have they got the 32 million from..." From the EPL promotion money. Promotion gets you 138 million over three seasons most of it up front. Your board is cheap as heck.

[@StingerNeilD]

Cautious. Probably for the best 😂

[@mykelhedge7299]

Do you mean it is also your nan's favourite team...or that you and your wife share a nan?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/apC2qXSPjJJ6b68si=deGQkVxpbH_3a-x4&t=74

[@StingerNeilD]

See previous comments. Obviously explained purely. Wife's nan. Nan-inlaw

[@mikexstad1121]

I'm a staunch leftist, but watching this style of football turned me into a Brexiter