Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992 - GM Ben Finegold

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Saint Louis Chess Club

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@Nic_DM
@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Tal Memorial is named after Mr. Memorial.
@ikinoktace1280
@ikinoktace1280 4 жыл бұрын
People discredit Mr. Memorial too much nowadays
@joeljose182
@joeljose182 3 жыл бұрын
Named before*
@michaellhoover94
@michaellhoover94 3 жыл бұрын
Show the proper respect!! That's Grandmaster Memorial!!!!
@otakurocklee
@otakurocklee 2 жыл бұрын
Yes because Mr. Memories was really tall.
@wizardseye
@wizardseye 11 жыл бұрын
His lectures are even funnier in person. He tends to give those in the room a hard time which is hilarious when you know everyone he's talking about.
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 2 жыл бұрын
haha awesome. i can't stop laughing when he breaks the 4th wall with those hilarious looks.
@herzwatithink9289
@herzwatithink9289 10 жыл бұрын
My favourite player, Anatoly Karpov, covered by my favourite analyst, Ben Finegold. Doesn't get any better!
@أبومحمد-ث2ت7غ
@أبومحمد-ث2ت7غ 7 жыл бұрын
عتردحس
@BrezHurley
@BrezHurley 8 жыл бұрын
Don't castle into checkmate unless you are playing me. ~Ben Finegld
@re4072
@re4072 8 жыл бұрын
"What did Kamsky do to stop mate?" "resign"
@Nic_DM
@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын
Very suspicious move on his part.
@dominikernst77
@dominikernst77 4 жыл бұрын
the truth hurts
@mortadahasaad530
@mortadahasaad530 4 жыл бұрын
Terrible
@diegogarcia4255
@diegogarcia4255 4 жыл бұрын
Cried like a Grandmaster
@samsadax230
@samsadax230 9 ай бұрын
Karpov's positional skills are unmatched.
@johngreco8498
@johngreco8498 10 жыл бұрын
This guy is wayyyy funnier than his class gave him credit for. I would have been laughing too hard if I was in the class haha
@WalyB01
@WalyB01 6 жыл бұрын
The knight might go there later.....
@gregoroque
@gregoroque 6 жыл бұрын
"That makes our bishop not happy" - cracked me up
@joseruiz844
@joseruiz844 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. He is very funny indeed!
@ronclass1782
@ronclass1782 5 жыл бұрын
I figured that out in less than a minute
@msDanielp369
@msDanielp369 5 жыл бұрын
He's the coolest GM ever!! I dare you name a cooler one
@mrtampham
@mrtampham 6 жыл бұрын
Strategic ideas are soooo good. When he owned the f file and then went back to control the c file. I would have 100% pushed my kingside pawns and sacrifice something to break open the king. This teaches me so much about positioning, preventing opponent's good moves, and patience.
@jpg6296
@jpg6296 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, though I prefer the wizardry of Tal, I agree with you, we must first learn strategy and solid positional play before we can have a basis for other styles.
@stopit405
@stopit405 4 жыл бұрын
His one-liners are so great. I enjoy them every single time.
@spartnstarcraft2
@spartnstarcraft2 10 жыл бұрын
this class under appreciates his humor so much. Great analysis in tandem with the jokes always make his lectures the easiest to follow and retain the information. Plz more of Ben.
@1rauno
@1rauno 8 жыл бұрын
"Mate is good, because then you win!"
@ГоарЦаразон
@ГоарЦаразон 6 жыл бұрын
;0 в
@German1184
@German1184 3 жыл бұрын
I am taking notes lol
@EVANGELOSS54
@EVANGELOSS54 5 жыл бұрын
Finegold is possibly the best chess commentator in the world ... I would love it if he did some A0 vs Stockfish games analysis
@walterparker2641
@walterparker2641 10 жыл бұрын
The most concise and instructional chess lecture I have encountered on KZbin,
@joseluisparreno4999
@joseluisparreno4999 8 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos by Ben Finegold.
@aliveli-hq6zk
@aliveli-hq6zk 8 жыл бұрын
"When you play Nc2, it is really hard to play Rc2."
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 4 жыл бұрын
Just promote the knight idiot. Frankly ridiculous
@Pain420
@Pain420 3 жыл бұрын
Ben is big brain
@Kaanfight
@Kaanfight 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible
@mitchellhodgemeyer
@mitchellhodgemeyer 8 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite of Ben's lectures (although the Paul Morphy ones are awesome too).
@rafaelgmota
@rafaelgmota 8 жыл бұрын
Typical Morphy opponent... Terrible! xD
@StygianStyle
@StygianStyle 9 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to these vids for the jokes.
@iamnahidashrafuday
@iamnahidashrafuday Жыл бұрын
These lectures are so helpful. His detailed explanations cooperate to understand middle game better!
@rgsliwa8298
@rgsliwa8298 7 жыл бұрын
A very good lesson by big Ben Finegold. Health is wealth so you can keep teaching.
@ss9392
@ss9392 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite game by far, Karpov's style really stands out to me
@boschmidt7824
@boschmidt7824 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing lecture, explaining with humor the ideas behind every move. Simply great.
@ivek7773
@ivek7773 10 жыл бұрын
Man this guy just made my day
@LexFloyd
@LexFloyd 9 жыл бұрын
I really felt the pressure to answer at 36:22
@fisheatsyourhead
@fisheatsyourhead 6 жыл бұрын
highschool flashbacks of not paying attention and being called for an answer
@thijsyo
@thijsyo 5 жыл бұрын
The Tal Memorial, named after mister Memorial
@Grandcapi
@Grandcapi 9 жыл бұрын
Very instructive and funny!! Ben is good for young players, he knows how to make them learn and laugh at the same time. It was the first time I watched him on youtube and loved it.
@MyRook
@MyRook 11 жыл бұрын
Great example showing how space advantage gives you all the options(attack and defense).Great piece coordination.
@petersodhi1762
@petersodhi1762 8 жыл бұрын
Superb analysis and presentation
@Uerdue
@Uerdue 4 жыл бұрын
3:44 Of course we've heard of him! He's a famous f***ing legend!
@bhuvanc4992
@bhuvanc4992 10 жыл бұрын
As entertaining as instructive...awesome video!
@orlandorodriguez1291
@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2018, I find his humor smirkable at most then I remember they're usually kids/teens then I laugh my ass off!
@orlandorodriguez1291
@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious, not that im insulting you 😂😂
@tze-weilim1632
@tze-weilim1632 8 жыл бұрын
I like GM Finegold. He's really funny here.
@mathewmgmg
@mathewmgmg 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture sir...watched it twice!! One of the best lecturers here along with Yasser Seirawan
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Crazeyfor67
@Crazeyfor67 11 жыл бұрын
Ben always makes chess fun. I surely missed his coverage at this years U.S. Championship. Yasser did a good job,,but the chemistry of Ben & Jen was superb. Watching their coverage last year made me jump up and drive to St.Louis (from Louisville) to experience the show live. Some of the post game interviews by Maurice Ashley were a bit cheesy and the excitement wasn't there. It all seemed contrived and slightly forced. Ben's coverage is easy and natural. Thanks for the lecture SLT CC
@xhemalvezi3999
@xhemalvezi3999 6 жыл бұрын
It's impossibile to get bored with him. I would pay a lot of money just to follow one of his lessons.
@Samuel-cu9vo
@Samuel-cu9vo 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that someone was shocked about the knight going to a8 at 17:40
@Dontfollowplease
@Dontfollowplease 8 жыл бұрын
Took 78 seconds for him to mention Paul Morphy xD I love it!
@Freddy-xx3uf
@Freddy-xx3uf 7 жыл бұрын
also known as 1min18
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 3 жыл бұрын
Nice catch!
@mottian
@mottian 9 жыл бұрын
5:56 "That's something that we should probably talk about for an hour because I get paid by the hour" :D
@followingtheroe1952
@followingtheroe1952 9 жыл бұрын
+Martino Garonzi Sounds like something a "Finegold" would say.
@itrofimow
@itrofimow 9 жыл бұрын
+Myrdred Deceiver its just what he said
@toastersman217
@toastersman217 11 жыл бұрын
A very instructive video! Thank you!
@daveanthony3880
@daveanthony3880 8 жыл бұрын
FINEGOLD IS A CHESS GOD
@tharkanzox1493
@tharkanzox1493 7 жыл бұрын
We need ben finegold back
@kingcarisma
@kingcarisma 8 жыл бұрын
Finegolds jokes are very suspicious...but his teaching is not...Cudos..
@federicogarcia4446
@federicogarcia4446 8 жыл бұрын
+kingcarisma oh thats not true, his jokes part from a premise equal or boring and then slowy improve to a better and winning punch line, he's jokes are solid.
@kingcarisma
@kingcarisma 8 жыл бұрын
Your`e correct!
@adatta3046
@adatta3046 8 жыл бұрын
His jokes are just terrible.
@Spiderhip
@Spiderhip 7 жыл бұрын
Why is his jokes are suspicious? You with the wrong answer.
@johnkom2339
@johnkom2339 7 жыл бұрын
His jokes are at your expense. Sarcasm but keeps the pace lively.
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 2 жыл бұрын
The quote that sums it all up for me: "Karpov likes different things than I do"
@oshanmodi
@oshanmodi 10 жыл бұрын
I am your fan.. Ben Finegold.. very helpful illustrations...
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 2 жыл бұрын
Karpov, a very interesting game. Finegold, a very interesting player & commentator
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 11 жыл бұрын
That's a valuable lesson that I learned after being swiftly crushed by a 2200. It's not sufficient to just do what you want to do, but to proactively prevent your opponent's plan. My rating has since improved dramatically!
@joseruiz844
@joseruiz844 6 жыл бұрын
You make these explanations really enjoyable and vivid. Thanks a lot Ben!
@iehudim
@iehudim 10 жыл бұрын
thank you for this precious videos
@TheConcentrationmoon
@TheConcentrationmoon 8 жыл бұрын
i dont understand why some portions are edited. Its suspicious!!
@anasbouayad6826
@anasbouayad6826 6 жыл бұрын
Karpov's gameplay is really magnificent
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын
Instructive lecture, thanks a lot!
@craig7102
@craig7102 10 жыл бұрын
thanks you gave me some idea's hadn't thought of
@manictiger
@manictiger 7 жыл бұрын
Did you know this isn't even Karpov's final form? Later on, he fuses with IBM's 'Deep Blue' to become Deep Karpov, during the second 1997 match against Kasparov.
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 7 жыл бұрын
I swear Karpov was a computer.
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 6 жыл бұрын
jesus christ, deep blue was as much of an anti-karpov as possible.
@tims7174
@tims7174 7 жыл бұрын
That picture in the beginning though....
@bobmakin4991
@bobmakin4991 5 жыл бұрын
Why isn't this guy world championship he is smarter than everyone else
@joshuahunter7972
@joshuahunter7972 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a new touch screen? Bens stepping up in the world.
@johnhechtlinger9465
@johnhechtlinger9465 6 жыл бұрын
nice lecture....that Karpov game was impressive....
@logansoileau8238
@logansoileau8238 4 жыл бұрын
The St. Louis chess club is found is in the city of Club.
@myriadwhims
@myriadwhims 11 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this lecture! Thanks!
@rob__rob_5131
@rob__rob_5131 4 жыл бұрын
Is Finegold really a Vegetarian? If soo... I need his recipes!
@dangelobenjamin
@dangelobenjamin 11 жыл бұрын
Both, it's awesome. You learn a lot from Ben!
@Dybbouk
@Dybbouk 3 жыл бұрын
Great game. Great explanation.
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome lecture Ben! Also very funny!
@JamesJones-oq7hy
@JamesJones-oq7hy 10 жыл бұрын
your lectures are awesome
@Tobias-fe2hm
@Tobias-fe2hm 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 11 жыл бұрын
"That's something we should talk about for an hour... because I get paid by the hour... right?" friggin hilarious!
@youngadultsuis
@youngadultsuis 10 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold for president!!!!
@johnmichael642
@johnmichael642 6 жыл бұрын
wow the best chess channel i have ever seen O_O
@daniellamprecht1566
@daniellamprecht1566 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that Boomhauer has taken an interest in chess.
@Crazeyfor67
@Crazeyfor67 11 жыл бұрын
Actually I haven't watched it all yet. But I will keep your remark about Kamsky's mistakes in mind while viewing.
@ThePawn-xi3zb
@ThePawn-xi3zb 6 жыл бұрын
14:08 He glued the pieces into the board.
@stanleygsf
@stanleygsf 11 жыл бұрын
Yaay! Fun lecture!
@pfsloan8230
@pfsloan8230 11 жыл бұрын
...unless you're playing me...can't stop laughing...can't breathe...passing out. OK I may be exaggerating but Ben is a (Grand) master at making a point with such pointed humor one can't help but remember the lesson.
@nubiankenpo
@nubiankenpo 8 жыл бұрын
The "Don Rickles" of chess. A dry humor savant.
@sebastianquilt
@sebastianquilt 8 жыл бұрын
Rickles was more jovial than this guy, whose attention span for humor is about 3 seconds, and who ought to partake in Impractical Jokers, finally, as Joe's fatter, smarter brother :) Great teacher, too.
@mottian
@mottian 9 жыл бұрын
6:30 "So, you go to the store and you buy chicken. Right Ben?"
@meenay2728
@meenay2728 7 жыл бұрын
East or west Ben is the best
@Ty-yy7zr
@Ty-yy7zr Жыл бұрын
You have the C file? I want the C file.
@azi7783
@azi7783 6 жыл бұрын
What exactly did those people dislike about this video?! Very suspecious!
@gmcenroe
@gmcenroe 9 жыл бұрын
really nice lecture and funny at the same time
@JThrashYT
@JThrashYT 10 жыл бұрын
jonah hill could play this dude in a movie
@herzwatithink9289
@herzwatithink9289 10 жыл бұрын
Nice. But who would play the Michael Cera character?
@TheKaeseStulle
@TheKaeseStulle 7 жыл бұрын
JThrashYT Micheal Cera plays Ken West.
@some______guy
@some______guy 7 жыл бұрын
I would love that. Michael Cera in a fat suit
@AssWhole-u6d
@AssWhole-u6d 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have the comedic skills to play Ben in a movie.
@thetransferaccount4586
@thetransferaccount4586 11 ай бұрын
nice lecture
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 4 жыл бұрын
Leela says that 20...Nc6 was a significant inaccuracy. Recommending (I kid you not)... Na8 instead (I'm guessing to prepare b5)
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 4 жыл бұрын
I think 28... Qh4 was also a decent try for a draw. Fianchettoing the queen was possibly a mistake too. Honestly this game is a pain to analyse even with computers :P
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimately though it was probably Nd8 and b5 that were too passive. Well specifically playing b5 first made a lot more sense.
@ankushs6448
@ankushs6448 5 жыл бұрын
"...but bad too, gotta watch it. Stole my name. I had it first." Hahaha i'm dying.. how is no one there laughing. Are they drugged?
@josephschenkel8956
@josephschenkel8956 6 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy' both in general and in the context of chess?
@daims8728
@daims8728 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Schenkel to my level of understanding when we talk about tactics it’s short terms move strategy is more about mid-long term move
@josephschenkel8956
@josephschenkel8956 6 жыл бұрын
@@daims8728 Thanks!
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 6 жыл бұрын
@@josephschenkel8956 tactics are 3-6 move shorts that are kind of forced and calculated, usually to win pieces or to get to a different state in the board (short term but very precise). Strategy is your overall vague ideas about what you want to do in the board long term (long term but very vague)
@SuperBono07
@SuperBono07 9 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is ''strategic position'' means?.
@illmaculatechess
@illmaculatechess 11 жыл бұрын
i watched this lecture super blazed laughed my ass off
@maelstrom57
@maelstrom57 11 жыл бұрын
more from Ben!
@sooooooooDark
@sooooooooDark 3 жыл бұрын
43:43 man id be really curious what the thought process is behind pushing (/sacrificing) the pawns the specific way white does there very hard for non titled players to understand 😢
@TheChessViking
@TheChessViking 11 жыл бұрын
I think he struck a fine balance....you lost focus anyway for anything over 20-30 minutes so I liked his style!
@StefanStoykov
@StefanStoykov 8 жыл бұрын
"You like Bulgarian chess-players" .... WE ALL DO :)
@thecatishere.
@thecatishere. 5 жыл бұрын
tochno teb te turseh
@BizuteriaMoxie
@BizuteriaMoxie 4 жыл бұрын
I like his videos
@thorn35
@thorn35 5 жыл бұрын
Conrad Holt is a grandmaster born in Witchita Kansas.
@GymChess
@GymChess 11 жыл бұрын
Nice lecture and nice guy.
@gregtaylor6146
@gregtaylor6146 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa there Ben.... you're a veggie? that's awesome man, good for you!!!
@nfltrrrqwsa7512
@nfltrrrqwsa7512 4 жыл бұрын
To me, Qc4 Rd4 is a much stronger move than bxc5 Rdd3, assuming the Krejcik Gambit holds in parallel with a subdivision 6.5 strategy in the end game scenario.
@skillywilly187
@skillywilly187 7 жыл бұрын
i see old man karpov still playing..whats his fide rating nowadays? also what was his best year rating? was he up in the mid 2800s ?
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 7 жыл бұрын
Late 2700's afaik
@palmarius104
@palmarius104 6 жыл бұрын
If you adjust for rating inflation then actually he was late 2800s
@IamThomassive
@IamThomassive 11 жыл бұрын
In this kind of classic Karpov strategic grind the mistakes aren't always obvious or big. He steadily nurtured a positional plus until culminated in tangible gain. Examining the inaccuracies of Kamsky is less instructive than the genius of Karpov and a topic for another lecture.
@ivantheterrible4317
@ivantheterrible4317 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Karpov is more genius than Kasparov.
@thomasrebotier1741
@thomasrebotier1741 5 жыл бұрын
At 35:02, what is wrong with ... Q c3. It forces queen trade
@louiss2595
@louiss2595 4 жыл бұрын
If adjournments didn't exist Karpov would be the greatest chess player of all time and the longest-reigning world champion. Many crucial games that Kasparov won in their WC matches was due to adjournments, Garry running and playing for time to confer with his seconds. It's sad really. Their WC record was 144 draws - 21 wins Kasp 19 wins Karp. MANY of Garrys wins were because of preparation after adjourning games. Even in loosing positions, Kasp would return, magically playing the correct variations after getting outplayed. What an atrocious injustice to Karpov. Karpov said that himself in a post-documentary. That Garry stalled for adjournments. Karpov was 100% better than Kasparov over the board. Kasparov had a better team.
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger 11 жыл бұрын
This is just awesome
@RonakBadhe
@RonakBadhe 6 жыл бұрын
Conrad Holt was born in Kansas @23:32
@johnrainmcmanus6319
@johnrainmcmanus6319 10 жыл бұрын
Bh6 immediately (instead of f6) leads to mate, I think.
@krippp
@krippp 10 жыл бұрын
Bh6 is much worse, though White retains a bishop for 2 connected passed pawns. After Karpov's 49.f6+, his queen gets to f6 instead of g7, immediately ready to support a Bf3+. And if ..Kxh4, then also ready for Qf4#. It's mate in 9, because in that way Bf3 remains lethal. With 49.Bh6+, after the obvious 49..Kxh6 50.Qf8+ Bg7 51.g5+ Kh5 52.Qxg7, black would play 52..Qd3, and the Black queen blocks the 3rd rank from Kg3. Then, after the eventual Bf3+ with the White queen's support, Black's king can just take the pawn on h4 and avoid mate, having had plenty of time to bring his queen to e3, preventing Qf4#. So White would have to win some other way, and that game's gonna take a long time, giving drawing chances for Black.
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын
Go Dog Go! XD
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