Have We Learned Nothing? (You're Training Wrong for SHTF)

[@jpcmt1721]

Thank you captain obvious! Seriously, there's literally nobody who does what you think prepper types are doing. You just want to flex your gear and pretend like you're the first to talk down the mall ninjas. Everyone knows how to be the gray man, not being a lone wolf or army of one, to have multiple layers of security, to have a community because nobody can defend themselves alone.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Captain? Don’t insult me, I’m a 1SG.

[@gordonfreeman3072]

@@STOKERMATIC 🤣

[@nathanr2326]

@@STOKERMATIC i knew it you gave me senior NCO vibes 😂 hell yeah first sergeant

[@nathanr2326]

@@STOKERMATIC i knew it you gave me senior NCO vibes 😂 hell yeah first sergeant

[@julian9898]

Sometimes it’s important to state the obvious. Some concepts are so “obvious” that people wind up ignoring them… they think, “it’s so obvious. I got this.” But they dont. And that’s how they get hurt.

[@tomcreekdevil5967]

If the enemy is from within and targeting our constitution and our way of life, then it's a threat on two fronts; internal and right behind it an external enemy will arrive on its heels. Personally, I suspect the internal threat is in cahoots with an external enemy.

[@STOKERMATIC]

🇺🇸🥃🇺🇸

[@maccabeus-everydaysurvival5828]

Agree 🇺🇸🏴‍☠️

[@Patrickjohnphotography]

Agreed. You cannot have SOTH and select congressmen bad-mouthing and undermining the DOJ and the rule of law. Indictments are real.

[@freedomfighter1861]

100%

[@deejayimm]

Anything's possible, but as someone who grew up in the country and lived in a large city for over a decade, and talked to different people on a daily basis for work, I've come to the realization that a large majority of people living in this country don't deserve to call themselves Americans, and they will see the end of everything this country was founded for. We're already getting there. What do you do when half of your population wants the opposite kind of country as the other half? I personally don't see how a second Civil War isn't inevitable, and you're 100% correct that foreign countries will take advantage of that.

[@John-um9yb]

Man as an Australian that has already lost each and every right god granted us all as free men and being forced to watch my children grow up thinking this is normal and "free" I hope and pray to God that you all fight the good fight and win.

[@bradywhite9125]

Pack your kids up and y'all come on over, that's the kind of thought process and the kind of people we need more of.. we'd be happy to have you in Texas. We need as many people with common sense as we can get to offset all these commiefornians coming over here and trying to change it

[@Veldtian1]

Yep AU is truly a prison island in every domain imaginable.

[@hardspecialist]

Same Shit here in Brazil man... Regards.

[@dont.ripfuller6587]

​@@hardspecialistI thought I heard Brazil had a leader that went lax on gun control, and allowed more citizens to have them? It might have been a couple years ago though, but the article was saying how some crimes had gone down because criminals couldn't tell who was armed.

[@brenthunter7965]

Na were doing fine lol

[@ryanreay4167]

Gray man also applies to keeping your political, sex preference, 2A, and other ideologies to yourself. Social Media is a no no.. Be a boring nobody that keeps to yourself for best results. I keep my truck in my garage, and nobody ever sees what I am packing out to play with for the weekend. The use of rubbermaid totes and duffle bags is ideal for moving your supplies from place to place without curious eyes knowing what you have.

[@powerlink_provider]

you think its only social media ? you should fear the gov more than the people seeing your posts, and guess what the fact that you tell that here and watch those kind of videos make you already a threat profile

[@ryanreay4167]

@@powerlink_provider Obviously. Every time you use a credit card, what you look at on line, and so forth. I'm a veteran so I'm already tagged. All we can do is keep the neighbors out of our loop.. the Govt is obviously clued in to every single thing you do.

[@alexashworth3119]

Actually it does a great deal of good to use your freedom of speech. To speak the truth in order to help others. However, it is also good to use your right to remain silent.

[@domgmr1763]

FYI Ideally when the grid goes down the longer it stays down the more likelihood all electronic record keeping and storage media will be destroyed. So make sure you have hard copies of every important documents no matter what form of government rises or survives the insanity coming our way

[@midwestbd7144]

Agreed, if it’s light outside my firearms are loaded into the truck in boring looking cases or backpacks, not only does that reduce the risk of some crazy anti 2A neighbor reporting you for something perfectly legal but also reduces the chance of a robbery if someone sees what you have inside.

[@aaronnoffsinger5922]

I agree completely. As a former Combat Support and Rescue team leader, Army Rangers, it was our job to secure way points, re supply, provide medical treatment and extract small teams in all types of situations. The last thing you want is to look like a United States SOF team. Many times it was best to look like a mentally ill vagrant crashed out in the ally, a common sight in most any city street. Creative thinking is your most valuable weapon and resource. Train to operate when cold wet, tired and hungry, not how to stay warm, dry and happy in adverse conditions. Your will to live and complete the mission trumps gear every day all day. Many times we were able to get to cover, treat the wounded and maintain security, wait for the enemy to simply run out of ammo and go home. We then then extracted with no more resistance. Even just a power outage will kill many modern people from the shock of being in the dark, without running water panic is deadly. Don't be that person by working your mind through it on your own. It's awesome to see to see a man that loves his dogs enough to train them Good on You Sir!

[@thefrogking481]

One thing you failed to mention is that for every man in the field there are 30 men supporting him. Supply chain, logistics and comms are the difference.

[@joeblack1348]

well said my friend.

[@elslick]

Amen amen amen. Trainning and getting yourself ready for thise real life situation being cold wet and living hell. Your train like that when shtf your just kike oh OK this normal no problem and you operate accordingly.

[@paulnandico2370]

1 Sam 21:13 - And he changed his behaviour before them, and feigned himself mad in their hands, and scrabbled on the doors of the gate, and let his spittle fall down upon his beard.

[@haveyouflossedtoday]

@@paulnandico2370 Thanks for the verse.

[@livingfree8070]

Your message is heard loud and clear I agree 100% I’ve never understood why there is so many civilians out there that post all their gear on Facebook TikTok etc. you’re giving away your position.

[@michaelwilson6742]

I posted a lot of stuff online… when this brace rule dropped I proceeded to delete everything. I’m sure it’s “still there” somewhere… but it clicked loud and clear

[@Obstacle-illusion]

@@davidmecham9676 I think a better question would be “hmmm how can I get myself and others killed who haven’t prepared by trying to forcibly take/steal from others who ARE prepared and are likely more experienced than me”? Most of these ‘guntubers’ you speak of are ex combat veterans. Not gonna say all but most and most have plenty of friends and family who are likeminded who will rally to their side during a SHTF scenario. You do have a point, I’m not arguing that but let’s be realistic here. Go and try to ‘take’ from a well equipped person(s). More than likely you’ll be facing off against multiple people. Armed and ready. Let me know how it works out for you. How about you prepare yourself instead of banking on robbing others because I promise it won’t work out the way you think it will. It’s a dangerous mindset you got there.

[@recon1986]

Sure buddy that's why they fucking make chest rigs dude... easily concealed... the only common sense reason you should be using a plate carrier a uniform and helmet is if it's a real all out war and your on one side of the conflict.

[@ieronmandan5]

I know right it's ridiculous

[@QEsposito510]

Hell, beyond that, plenty of muh troops who think they’re gonna be in a position of power once everything goes to hell.

[@Vitlaus]

According to your KZbin watch history, your credit card history: You are a combatant.

[@chezoreo1336]

Dangit

[@STOKERMATIC]

🤣😂 sad thing is - credit companies willingly report too.

[@therifflair724]

Checkmate. They already know who is who and where to look first.

[@case8987]

Hmm. Who owns the credit card companies, banks, media, and make up the majority of the presidential cabinet? Why do they want to destroy us so bad? 🧐

[@Arkancide]

If they care about unassociated nobodies who hate the gubmint, then yes I'm on plenty of lists. I care not.

[@kevinsmith7287]

As a survivalist I've learned, prepared and practiced, even stored supplies in more than one place but I can't stress enough the one mistake that is just to easy to make. You need to know when to go. You need to be able to read the potential outcomes of events happening around you. The reason it's hard is because people don't want to go too early and find they're using up their supplies unnecessarily or they leave it too late and maybe get rounded up.

[@willl4219]

Go where though? Who is rounding you up? Im gonna stay and fight

[@Roger-ji4cg]

Nicely put...I live on a island and that is exactly what's been going through my mind... get the timing right .. also networking with like minded... can't stay here if it goes full sideways because of flooding... tidal waves... just saying

[@jamesparker6383]

I totally agree with you on those points, if you present yourself as a threat then you have already given the ones that see you an advantage. There's a lot of ways being stealthy.

[@fellowpatriot9162]

Yes, I definitely agree. An eclectic tactics training is good, but we need to be perceived as a gray man (non threat). Conceal and carry is better than one looking at you as the threat with open carry. Definitely, makes a lot of sense. I'm stoked that you did this video. Very, good points.

[@fireteamomega2343]

Maybe it really just depends on the situation. The element of surprise is moot if you are surrounded anyway. Say you have four guys and not much moral limitations looking for resources and you see an unassuming guy with a duffle bag walking around and another in full tactical gear with a rucksack. Ask yourself who's the easiest perceived target ? Nobody knows what either has in his bag but nobody wants to get shot either. It's the same in nature the weakest or young are most often targeted by predators. Now I'm not saying you should strut around in an urban environment with tons of people as grey cover in your gear but at the same time it very well might be the opposite in rural areas.

[@henrocks4618]

This is one of the best advice I’ve seen. I appreciated your opinion, “Don’t let your enemy know who you are!”

[@sylviamaresca8852]

The only thing he said that makes sense. Everything else is b.s.

[@TheMidwesternViking]

They already do

[@mikec.8556]

Good to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing same concept in poker .

[@wannabecarguy]

Africa is without power most of the time. Y'all could learn from their struggles.

[@mattmarzula]

​@@wannabecarguy learn what? How to be incapable of running multiple countries to the point a whole continent doesn't function by any standards?

[@wannabecarguy]

@@mattmarzula what it's like to rely on a generator. Or prepare water or food. Talked to a guy who went to Zimbabwe. They are pretty much living prepper life.

[@Penny_Pincher_Outdoors]

If there is ever widespread conflict on US soil, it will look like a mix of Iraq/Afghanistan and the many riots over the past several years. "Gray man", i.e blending in and looking like a not-threat while being the most dangerous person in the vicinity is imperative.

[@mattmarzula]

Yeah. I remember shooting a lot of those guys dead in the streets in those countries. They stick out way more than they think trying to blend in. Especially when everyone else points them out. Point is, people yearn for control and no one likes an asshole that upsets it. If SHTF, more people will fall in line than you think.

[@fireteamomega2343]

In that scenario I assume everyone is a threat until proven otherwise...

[@peterobertucci]

I audited a MAG in South Georgia and told their membership that if they "ended up in a firefight your leaders have failed them". That didn't go over too well but it's true. If you're practicing anything, Drill how to properly break contact.

[@matthewstillwagon4841]

That's dumb if your fighting in your own land. They will eventually do what they want. You lose .

[@peterobertucci]

@@matthewstillwagon4841 no you missed the context. The context was going out of your land and fighting. Not defending your land.

[@GatorsRock01]

Agreed100%. While it is important to learn how and when to engage it is also important to know how to get the hell away from a situation and/or avoid issues.

[@puffdufftv1904]

i live in sweden so being as militaristic as american preppers won't ever be an option for me. I don't see this as that much of an issue though because my outlook has always been that it is safer to hide from and avoid altercations than going around looking for them.

[@woodsghost9088]

Americans have a wide array of looks.

[@powerlink_provider]

your ancestors have played this strategy for decades, in fact this is the strategy that put us where we at, but a time will come you wont be able to hide anymore so you better find a way to be "militaristic" no matter what

[@greytallcloud5695]

sometimes you have to fight for whats right like our forefathers, do you want to be a slave?

[@GatorsRock01]

Altercations more often find you no matter how much you try to avoid them. Being scared and always hiding or on the run is worse than standing your ground. Sometimes it's better to just stop a threat then hope it goes away.

[@case8987]

When shtf you won’t be hiding from the migrant hoard when they start going door to door and dragging you out like dogs. Israel really screwed you guys by pushing for mass migration into your country just like they are doing to mine now.

[@mikhailkalashnikov4599]

Completely agree. It's different this time. The tactics will be the same on the macro level, but much different at the micro.

[@michaelsutton7213]

There is a time and place for everything. Many factors come into play. Choose the best solution to fit the senerio.

[@Able-Man]

I've read a bit of advice, several times = "Be the Gray Man"... for when it comes down to SHTF Time. That seems to make sense to me. Try to "blend in": with the "general population" and keep the eyes and ears OPEN. Try not to behave as if you ARE a potential threat to anyone, while ALSO not being perceived as "a soft target"... I read my Bible and "assess myself", regarding: ¿How have I been treating other people?

[@jeffreylane7]

Spot on. 100%

[@JD-lq2ef]

Amen Brother!

[@traeucity6087]

American Minutemen need to read, 'The War of the Flea', by Robert Taber. Even though it was written in 1965, it's as relevant now, as it was back then. Perhaps, more so?

[@STOKERMATIC]

Will have to check it out.

[@mrjoshua2791]

Get yourself some skinny jeans ,a rainbow shirt, a blue hair wig and congratulations! You now have the ultimate urban camo. Lol

[@STOKERMATIC]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@Gripmagic]

The homeless with a shopping cart facade allows for more carrying capacity though

[@mrjoshua2791]

@@Gripmagic genius

[@johnnottahcal5725]

If you candle handle that. 😂 My vehicle loves everybody and everything even if I’m not so sure. 😘

[@timlindskog2440]

Agree 100%! More content like this, “gear that doesn’t look like gear”. Tactics people don’t talk about, like in the Warsaw uprising of WW2 and other unconventional and subtle ideas. The idea is to live and not die foolishly.

[@Wastelandman7000]

And like one of the other posters commented, how to break contact well.

[@dn88s]

It depends on the situation as you could, alternatively, also look like an easy target carrying a duffle bag of stuff to steal. In many areas, there is no reason not to wear hunters style camouflage regardless if you are trying not to be seen. I'll also add that while the insurgent type may win the war, they generally die in droves doing so.

[@talpollard975]

It will DEFINITELY be a domestic enemy event...

[@viewsandreviews180]

I believe you were clear in this message and I agree. There was once a term, “Grey man”, that was a goal to be striven toward.

[@mattmarzula]

Ever noticed just how much people who talk about being a "grey man" stick out now? Maybe in 2017 you didn't notice them. Same as pre-2019 Hawaiian shirts. Now, they stick out like uncircumcised cranks in a Hebrew honeymoon. It's nearly a uniform. Because everyone wants to be someone else and someone they're not.

[@brdagr]

@@mattmarzula exactly, i completely agree. people have taken the "grey man" concept to sort of dog-whistle signal how tacticool they are instead of the original purpose of blending into the background. dress like you'd see an ordinary mom or dad dress in your area, or do what I do and just dress like a dork. people would never be able to tell

[@mollyhogen5036]

Once again 100% spot on Stoker. I see Alot of people out there doing their thing all camo out with all the cool gear and clothing. And what I really see is a bullseye.

[@mattmarzula]

That's not how camo works where it works. Now if we're talking urban environments and SHTF, anyone coming heavy is on an assault or raid and they're coming at night. You're not seeing anything until it's too late and you're not seeing anything when you're asleep.

[@mollyhogen5036]

@@mattmarzula Thanks for the opinion. Most appreciated.

[@GentiluomoStraniero]

What your talking about is a different type of camo. Op sec is so much more than having passwords on accounts. I see a lot of people posting gung ho comments and driving around with stickers on their vehicles. Shhhhhh

[@crowsbridge]

I don't get what's wrong with acogs, nvgs, and having 30 guns in my mom's basement.

[@louiemorris9598]

You have to be ready for anything. For a gorilla force to work. You have to a network. Read the book. The art of Gorilla War by Mao Tse-Tung.

[@Able-Man]

There's another good one, that I HAD; but, a house fire "got it" = "Guerilla Warfare" by: Che Guevara! (I haven't"shopped for a replacement; but, I'm guessing that it's probably fairly hard to find, in English, anyway.)

[@doug1863]

I try to be as low key as possible when I am traveling the subways . I carry a folding knife which is concealed but readily available. In addition I carry a laser pointer( lesson from antifa attacking the courthouse in Portland) . Shine the laser at an opponent’s eyes and attack with the knife, provided I can not escape the situation

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Low-profile is definitely essential for a myriad of situations and environments-- we use it all the time in Advance Planning apart from the applicability for the "worst of the worst" case scenarios in consideration. Cheers brother!

[@marclucier2533]

I may catch heat for this but here goes. Physical training and being ready? Of course. But moving through your community and watching feeling the tensions or watching how the people move and conduct they’re business day to day. To me is a valuable tool on what and how to carry one’s self. Learning to move through the community without any attention. Just my opinion

[@mattmarzula]

You shouldn't catch heat. You're on it. Size up the situation. Utilize all of your senses. Remember where you are at all times. Vanquish fear and panic. Improvise but, remember your training. Value living. Act like the natives. Live by your wits.

[@BobBobinski425]

Avoid the people, you won’t have to worry much about blending in. Rule #1 shtf be away from large population centers

[@brentwentfishing]

Straight up on point Top! I do not stick out. I'm blending in at all times. While I'm not in an urban setting, I did live in KC for 8 years and learned that the folks leaving that situation will be our first adversaries. They will want everything that we have stored up and will have no qualms in taking us out to meet those ends. While I plan and train, I try to think about where I can "poof" disappear from everyone that would want to commandeer my skills and take my supplies. All of us would do well to plan for that scenario! Once you have outsmarted the urbanites, there is still the issue of government agents that want to round you up and place you in a FEMA camp when the SHTF. No, I will not submit. I will die free even no matter the consequences!

[@STOKERMATIC]

🏴‍☠️🥃🏴‍☠️

[@watch7966]

So I'm not the only one using the term, "Urbanites".

[@brucebrookshaw3401]

Great summary spoken here. Inspiring and a knock-out mind-set. I love it!

[@AlexanderTheFarmer]

Problem is that the Government agents will have the most advanced equipment than a random marauder, how do you even deal with that ?

[@deankaras8359]

I appreciate the advice it makes a lot of sense. Do you know of anyone making plate carriers that would conceal well?

[@RonRonin]

Power percieved, is power achieved. There is a time and a place for grey man tactics, but more often than not, we can avoid problems by projecting strength

[@Truth-and-freedom365]

It really depends on what you define as a SHTF scenario. I mean, if you are fighting an in a guerrilla war with an enemy that is numerically or technologically superior, the strategy you are eluding to that most people know flying low is really the only viable option. However, most people think of SHTF as a complete breakdown of society, services, and authority. This is where might makes right and you need to hold every single advantage you can for you and yours to live through it. Being dressed up in tactical gear may make people avoid you for easier targets. Not to mention, that armor serves as protection from being injured, which can kill you from either bleed-out or infections.

[@tomhamilton7726]

Very valuable post. Thanks. I imagine in any SHTF situation we may face that the most challenging thing will be accurately identifying real threats. It’s easy to plan a course of action once a zombie is in our field of vision. It’s much harder when there’s a crowd of neighbours or strangers. Once lead is down range, it’s too late to recall it.

[@flyoverkid55]

Point taken. The conditions that exist should things go sideways will dictate the response. There's a time for full on battle rattle and there's a time for maintaining a low profile. Being observant, having established some plans before things get sketchy, all play a part in our response to adversity. We are not hammers, and not every problem is a nail. Stay prepared, be well, and should the time come, go hard.

[@fireteamomega2343]

Yep play smart be adaptive and you survive

[@sectorseven07]

I think what you may be discounting is that in most of the scenarios people are training for, they're doing so predicated under the idea that they will be part of a team. Whether that be sectarian violence, WROL, or foreign invasion of some kind, most people these days are part of a network of other shooters or will be brought into the fold of a network pretty rapidly. If you're training in full kit and cammies to be a lone wolf survivor I totally get where you're coming from.

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

I like it when people think I'm just a regular or awkward / dorky person. I'd rather they underestimate me as it gives me an advantage. You still stay situationally aware and avoid the fight if you can.

[@Myoutdoorlife84065]

I think your spot on. I personally don’t want anyone knowing when I’m strapped. I keep my long gun out of sight as well. I believe situational awareness is key to survival! Right now at this moment in time, our immediate threat is in the Whitehouse.

[@thefrogking481]

One of the more difficult things we faced in Iraq was decerning friend from foe. I cant speak to Vietnam or Afghanistan, as I wasnt there, I can only speak to my personal experiences.

[@BigTomInTheBasement]

We were invading their country trying to replace their culture. No one was really our friend there. It would be like the UN interfering in a US Civil War over keeping the US Constitution.

[@1980Baldeagle]

That's right. Very difficult, it resulted in a lot of PTSD and social anxiety for a lot of vets. It's weird to me watching these Russian Ukrainian guys run around all taped up like Christmas presents 🎁.

[@kurtbaier6122]

Came to the same idea after a surgery put me down. I’m not completely out of action but will never return to where I was physically. And also because law enforcement sees citizens as a threat I will not be walking around in camies. I still have my plate carrier, AR, for home defense and camies, for specific use or objectives. But my primary camies is clothing with natural colors and real tree which is normal in my AO. My primary everyday and shtf weapons are defense pen, long double A flashish light, OC spray, baton ( legal in my State- and I’m a former armed security officer), Glock, and the USA One Shot non NFA pistol brace and weapon light. I normally carry 46 rounds, and would bump that to 76 as things heat up. And would carry five Glock 30 round mags in a pack when things break loose. Long gun is not always legal for carry and heavy. One Shot pistol brace is light. I have raised night tritium sights, and front sight that also has a large orange dot. I usually carry my Pistol concealed, unless going to shoot at a friends farm, but my State is also open carry. That NFA brace has completely changed the game for me with increased accuracy and distance.

[@On-Our-Radar-24News]

Spot on Top! Once again you bring the necessary to hear information forward. The first thing that a invasion force or foreign adversary is going to target it all of the weekend warriors out there with the BRCC and Grunt Style stickers all over their super lifted truck wearing their tribute to the armed forces tshirts and hats. A foreign adversary is going to know all of the people who have gun stores and who shop at those gun stores and who are the "preppers" in the community. As someone who has fought against a foreign insurgency in Iraq, it is the most demoralizing thing to not know who is friendly and who is for. If the U.S. ever gets invaded by a foreign adversary or has a SHTF moment, the conventional military is going to have their hands full fighting that force. We, the trained and ready civilians need to be prepared to fight and survive as a clandestine insurgency force operating in the shadows and without detection from normal intel channels and observations.

[@KYPrepper5]

Well said. While I would be extremely suspicious of anyone observed in my AO, anyone in full battle rattle is instantly perceived as a threat. I also believe if you truly need all the full battle rattle for where you are now, then you need to relocate. Thank you for posting!

[@b62wildcat]

Vietnam Vet here, 3rd Mar Div, 5th Comm BN, 1968-69. For some reason all my neighbors tell me that if it comes to SHTF. They are coming to my house. We grow a lot of our own food. repair a lot of our own stuff. We also respect the relationships we all have with one another and are proud of it. If needed between the stacks of firewood, rows of garden staples, and lots of wild game close by, we will have a very safe place to survive. Strength is not done by any solo effort!

[@rossidanrossi]

Very very very well thought out episode. Extremely important for people to ponder. You are 110% right and if for some reason people aren’t able to see that then they are in big trouble. Thank You!

[@nathanielmilam75]

King of Oman had several 6'6" body guards with swords. They were the visual deterrent. The tiny short British SAS guys were the legit show up to your shop and shoot you in the face with they're HiPower were the real threat.

[@BuckFoeJiden]

THIS is the sort of foundation all training needs to be built upon.

[@garyjohnson4608]

To me, it has always seemed best to " blend in " to utilize the "gray man" approach that way I don't stand out in a crowd so nobody knows who I am and I'm not perceived as any kind of threat. And if anything bad ever does happen it will be easier for me to just vacate the area and get away from whatever is going on.

[@johnadams7402]

Quite right. In the end time scenarios, any bullet wounds most likely will end up being fatal Whether by bleeding out at the time, or by dieing horribly by infection three weeks later. The best contact is NO contact. Being a ghost leads to a longer and more productive life.

[@IdahoSewing]

#1. Learn your primitive medicine! There are lots of things easily available in nature that can help heal infection. For example, mud and charcoal. By keeping inflammation drawn out of the wound, circulation is improved, and infection can be resisted better. Pain is also reduced. There are many potent antibiotic herbs and foods, such as garlic, onion, usnea, yarrow, goldenseal, lomatium, pine/fir/spruce-needle teas, etc. #2. Three are better than one. If you have a parent, sibling, spouse, child, work to develop mutual understanding and appreciation. What you give will come back eventually.

[@BobBobinski425]

Amen

[@frankr.6305]

Great Video. Finally someone who thinks out of the box

[@AlphabetBoisAreSmelly]

My thoughts exactly, avoiding a fight is the best way to win, you should be minimizing your footprint and not doing things that are unnecessary. For example Cqb being one of them, if it isn’t 100% a necessity, completely avoid it, the risk to reward is fkd. if you go looking for trouble you’ll find it

[@maguslascivious4980]

LOL I tell people all the time. Plaid is the best camo. Dickies duck fabric pants are just fantastic too... Doggo is like "STFU and play with this ball" Seriously though, the best dudes in SHTF will be cowboy shooters who can quick draw and blast someone at 3-7 yards.

[@nohandle74]

I hope your doggo lives a long long happy healthy life. They never stay with us as long as we like but thats just part of life.

[@claytondc508]

I don’t think it’s one way or another. It’s what you must do at the time. There’s a time for “gray”, but the time may come for “tactical”. Mostly, now, it’s unconventional-gray.

[@timothywilliams8907]

Thanks for sharing this. Opened up my mind and my eyes. I know there is no way I can adequately prepare for everything, but just this knowledge that I can become less of a target is enlightenment on a scale that I had never thought through completely. There is a time and a place for everything and this has taken me and my thoughts about preparednessto to a whole new level. 12:23 12:23

[@improvisedsurvival5967]

Anyone going into a building with a duffel bag I’m gonna assume they are setting up and I’m gonna be observing them. I look like I’m a just a regular working guy. No tactical gear camo. Carhart pants jacket and work boots. Not looking for a fight. Your gonna be busting your ass laboring to meet your needs. Gonna wanna lay low. The tactical operator crap never appealed to me. Never was is army. That training could be fatal in a civil war. Military operations are supported by logistical support. Nobody is bringing ammo up from the rear for average people. We don’t get to sit in a hole and have food brought to us. We have to work to produce it. Ammo is what we can carry and stock up. We don’t have a huge budget like military. The only kind of military training I can see being useful is fireteam training and operating like a squad. Some security training. First aid too. You don’t need tank training or how to fly a10

[@therealfearsome]

The entire concept of "Bugging out" I think is a far fetched idea, shelter in place and looking like your worse off than everyone else, living under the floor and taking the doors off the hinge and living dark make a lot more sense to me. If the hoards move on by because they think there's nothing there, that is the ultimate Gray man. My house will appear abandoned with nothing but trash left behind. But don't come looking too hard for me....

[@craigrobertson6082]

I agree with you, Top. It's way too obtrusive to be looking like you are ready for landing on a hot LZ when you are in your suburb! The mental preparedness and training combination with a gray man approach will be better for most scenarios...but, when the SHTF you need to be able to saddle up and get ready.

[@rdwakefield]

Walk quietly and keep the head on s swivel at all times... The issue of the day....do you want to turn this once God fearing nation back to its glory that God once blessed us with...if so I'll stand and fight with any other God fearing man...if not this is not my fight for i fight for three things...God, family (the body of Christ) and nation...in that order. For if we fight to just to to return to whore mongering and bars the Lord God will crush our uprising...however if we with humble hearts of repentance seek the Lord God and His strength, He will lead us in battle and secure the victory for us...if this is not our intent the fall will be severe.

[@talpollard975]

Sometimes, depending on the vibes I am getting, I display that I am carrying... Most times tho, I keep it under wraps...

[@nobodyimportant2510]

I get what you’re trying to say and I don’t disagree, however from the perspective of one of those tacticool dudes who has body armor and night vision and stuff is that the people who don’t want me to own all of that stuff much less a firearm of any kind are there literally threatening people like you and I with a drone strike or a squad of highly trained killers busting your door down at some odd hour to either eliminate you or take you and your family away might as well show them “hey we’re just as armed too” remember perception is key and yeah we should adapt to the circumstances.

[@reysanchez5578]

Good video, I agree, we must train smarter and be prepared on all fronts discreetly

[@SilverShamrockNovelties]

When SHTF, the criminal element will victimize everyone, especially those who are dressed like the typical victim.

[@vensheaalara]

You make many good points. I am not military. I have no conventional training. I do know that I will be preoccupied in the business of survival 100% of the time if the worst comes, whether that means hunting game, planting and harvesting, or milking cows. I have to be able to be a citizen/warrior, a farmer/warrior, or whatever the situation requires, and I have to be able to do it with bare minimum equipment, a rifle and maybe a sidearm. Training with your minimum loadout has great benefits.

[@udp1073]

First thing first: your dog is stunning! I love GS (even if I decided to get myself a clown in dog shape, a corgi), please give him/her a serious belly rub! Now, about what you say: it is impossible not to agree. one of the basics of good and sound training is "train as you figt" and, for most of us, we, if the shtf, will not be going around in ful panoply of war. if SHTF it will not be announced, we will be at work, in an office, in a store, in a restaurant, running our errands and taking care of our daily chores... so, being able not only to blend in but also not to draw attention will be key to survival AND to be able to put in good use the gear and training we have (hopefuly more of the latter than the first). I heard a lot of common sense in your word, thanks for this and other video. have an amazing day

[@galenyoung7917]

Sir you are 100% spot on. I was with a security team for awhile, it seemed all they wanted to do was look like a Marine. I tried to teach them the concept of " gray man " or blending into your environment in a grid down situation. They never seem to be interested.

[@juliereyes5704]

I have been thinking about this for awhile. Vietcong fighters use lightweight gear. They blend in with the citizens in their area. We can learn from them.

[@hagman1077]

Stoker- Good points here and bottom line as with anything is situational awareness and blending into your environment. It amazes me how many people that have a ton of gear on their chest, waist and backs- and they all swear by it??? The more stuff you have on, the more difficult it is to maneuver, and this could be the difference between life and death. Real world experience states this- KISS- Good video and your explaining of things is spot on-

[@oldguy9078]

Keep it simple stupid

[@mt8149]

AI will probably smoke everyone out. The window of opportunity is closing fast.

[@MrStanwillis]

An intelligent man ahead of most others with common sense with training applied. Thanks

[@mhicaoidh1]

I think what you're trying to get at is simply: Be flexible or adaptable. The fight will dictate the tactics. If you're out in the world, then grey man is the way. If your defending your home, and you have time to don it, then full battle rattle is the way.

[@mervmartin2112]

I believe the grey man concept is what you want to work toward. Blend in. Military garb shows you rich enough to roll too. I believe that disbursed caches of food, ammo and weapons, are best preferably hardened so they can be hiding spots. Don't depend on any particular cache to survive and be available. Remember that technology needs logistics. Where are your next batteries, ammo, etc coming from. Your caches may not be usable. Can you, with your bare hands, make a knife, a fire, a shelter? No tools beside the ones you've just made.

[@ervingritzeriii1360]

I remember 13+ years ago when we all were going over our uniforms and gear in our state militia. Back then, multi-cam was just coming out and we were mimicking the military quite a bit. Then we realized our issue with sticking out. The modern battlefield in the United States if the SHTF is not going to look like the current Russian/Ukrainian War. Instead, it is going to be very low key and undercover. I did end up with some pretty bad ass packs before we figured all this out. All of which look very militant. Sadly, in the end... we will carry all that we have left. Gotta pretty cool LBT pack out of all of the packs I own that someone put a lot of time into. You can make it huge and it it will also pack it down to nothing. Grey Man only works until you gotta hide in the woods.

[@JustATanneriteDummy]

It really all depends on what type of SHTF scenario you subscribe to. If it's a foreign invasion nothing bad would come of being in kit 24/7 especially with identifying marks so people know you are resistance and there to help the community and especially if you are in a city/state that is near a line of defense. If it's our own government which is in my opinion possible but unlikely it would make sense to be on grayman gang until people are ready to make moves.

[@ervingritzeriii1360]

@@JustATanneriteDummy The enemy to the Constitution of the United States is not to be found in any far foreign land like Russia, China, North Korea, etc... the enemy is right here at home. Ultimately, I think true enemy to our Republic is the Socialist democrats who think we are a democracy where 51% majority rule the other 49%. I live on the west coast and I can tell you that a foreign enemy doesn't have to do much to make these people conform and surrender, because they ultimately want to be ruled by government anyway. Civil war is more of a reality than a foreign invasion. Just my take...

[@cripplers8]

It all depends on your AO Top. If you’re out in the middle of nowhere your setup will be different than an urban setting. You always need to melt into your surroundings and not stick out.

[@thefrogking481]

That's all well and good till the Q4's circle. Comms as we know them are nothing more that a beacon for target acquisition.

[@RedForman22]

Right but he’s saying the average civilian shouldn’t be practicing small unit tactics everyday, or patrolling in the woods like all you “minuteman” nerds say. That should be the last thing on a preppers, or prepared citizens training list. Even if your out in the country, why would you wear full kit 24/7 and a uniform that makes no sense? some dude on his lawn is going to shoot you with his deer rifle because you feel the need to patrol around the woods for some reason because you think it’s the cool thing this year haha.

[@cripplers8]

@@RedForman22 it depends. If you’re in the sticks real tree camo or camo in general is a way of life. I live in the sticks and people just love their camo in Pensyltucky. 😂 I agree full kit with plates in the woods is overkill whereas a chest rig & butt pack would suffice. If you’re specifically training for a specific event yea throw your plates on but anymore when we train my plates are in in the gear box and it’s a lighter loadout.

[@RedForman22]

@@cripplers8 yeah I think if you considered yourself a prepper there’s zero point to any type of training in the woods. What prepared person is leaving there family to go patrol in the woods? because they think it’s cool because all the dudes on here do it, makes no sense. Walking around your property makes sense but not “patrolling” in the woods by yourself or with a group just a good way to get shot.

[@cripplers8]

@@RedForman22 I started as a Prepper & been in the Minuteman Movement for the last 11 years. There’s value in both & preppers do need some sort of training and getting strapped up without said training is just a recipe for disaster. Look at all the people getting shot now by jittery folks just because they’re lost and made a uturn in the wrong driveway…..

[@bwatkins1223]

The "grey man" concept is my thought process. Defensive gear is only one part but it's a piece that I myself have become tunnel visioned on. Guns, gear, and ammo are just a very few tools needed in a bad situation. Now, I focus on things that are most likely to happen like natural disasters in the Midwest. I've survived an EF3 tornado that hit my middle school head on. Ice power outages, etc. As an Eagle Scout and Firecrafter I found myself scaling back on investing in ammo and such because I took inventory and said this is great if we are in a full on war here but what about longer term food, water, basic supplies to make what is more likely to happen easier to survive and thrive. I realized I had fallen into the gear trap. Now, I'm not going to freeze or starve to death holding a rifle with a ton of ammo. Full on gear up is the last thing I want to do because that means the walls are closing in and life is truly about to suck. Great video, thank you for making it. Love your dog.

[@maccabeus-everydaysurvival5828]

Absolutely agree 🇺🇸🏴‍☠️

[@sarah14black]

good vid and info far better than most but then again most are " tacticool" that will get them killed fast. Camo is about blending in to your environment. camo is not always camo bdu's

[@themodernminuteman2557]

Good talk Stoker! Your points were well put!

[@user-sl7yn1bv1k]

1- AR15 for me. 2- PCC(9mm) for wife. 3- .22 for kid(s). 4- two glock 9mm for CC. Thats it. Practice and stock. Simple.

[@CiviTac]

You’re absolutely right. Train ccw setups most. Also envision for what shtf looks like in your area. Take data from natural disasters, civil unrest, national guard interventions, unconventional warfighters facing conventional military. Homesteading and community with obscurity is key. Training overt with your kit every once in a while is fine but the grey man concept is what keeps conventional threats on their toes

[@juandonjuanhan]

Kind of a moot point. There’s a time and place for both ways of thinking and the guys you’re talking about are specifically addressing the time and place when you need camo and night vision.

[@crazyirishmedic9535]

No setup is perfect 🤷‍♂️ However when there is no law I think looking like you are more trouble than you are worth wins out ever so slightly. Especially if you have a female in the group... To many a female is more valuable than most other things so you are a target regardless of what you are wearing or carrying. In that case you WILL get into an altercation it's just a matter of when so better be ready for it.

[@liamalepta8003]

This is exactly my camoflauge. Exactly my Ranger training. Sure... at work i will sort of wear the hunter type stuff, to kind of blend in with the locals , there are many hunter types around here. Most wouldnt know a fully trained army ranger if they were standing next to one. Keeping a low key status. I have a gun range on my property, but I dont waste tons of ammo. One mag to sight in, basically. Because in the military we were not trained to dro;p thousands of dollars of ammo on a paper target. The first shot is what matters and learning how to only use one shot is the trick. Not like on TV where they have full auto infinity count magazines. In the military, we rangers learned the high art of camo and to be out in the open, like at walmart and SHTF, dressing like the local patrons is exactly camo for the environment. The act of tactical is the art of deception, Just like this great guy says..they will least likely identify you as a target when you are playing the predator. So the way you train is each place you go to, look for your escape routes, look for places to hunker down, look for places to gain cover, plan in your mindthe events, train your thoughts how to act in a defensive, practice reflexes exercises to keep you split second manuvers, there are hundreds of actions of self defense you should learn, but the main one is never let them see you coming and the camo is out of sight and out of mind type of clothes. The people around here never would suspect I couild go full rambo . I agree look like the weekend dork office guy out hiking, the tourist fishing at the lake. Never let them think you are trained in guerilla warfare.

[@spru-seal]

anyone working with homeless or unemployed Vets, please reach out to get more foraging squads and MUCH NEEDED fire mitigation platoons out in the Forest. The Forest misses USAll. 🔥🙌🌲🖤🇺🇲

[@Everythingallthetime666]

14 advertising breaks... honestly that makes it very difficult to "hang in there" for your video.

[@haggis525]

It's all about being grey. Stay stoked, stay strong and stay grey!

[@Ragnar_Helsson]

Dude, fuck that. If it is SHTF times people aren't generally going to be all nice and welcoming. It won't matter WHAT you look like, you are going to be treated the same way, as an enemy. Hell, they might just try and reach out and touch you from quite a ways away. So I'd rather have my plate on my chest than try and look like Mr. Friendly. Because I won't be TREATED like Mr. Friendly.

[@sarlaccstapeworm990]

I completely agree... Going "grey man" is definitely the way to go. You most certainly want to be as forgettable as possible. The less attention that you attract throughout your travel, basic movements, and gathering of any sustenance, the better your chances are of staying alive and safe. Even just carrying a simple backpack can bring you a lot of unwanted attention, but ESPECIALLY if you're running around like "ranger Rick" toting an AR -15 and wearing tactical gear! Stay forgettable, and stay alive!

[@sonsofliberty3158]

Look into Syria, ask folks in Ukraine right now. Sometimes you HAVE to be ready for battle at all times, even if you’re not the enemy at the moment, you can still become the target. Stay prepared my Americans! If you’re not 3% you should be. Also train with multiple friends or family when shooting & moving. Talking guns, suppressing fire, two 4 man teams at minimum, good spacing. List goes on forever. Stay ready everyone.

[@robertdodd9623]

I agree, be a Gray Man . Open carry is a disadvantage. A lot of times Americans have Faught people that were hard to distinguish between good and bad . Your safer flying below the radar . At the same time, it's hard to call time out , to put your weapon together.

[@2heavyb517]

I agree, the gray man concept is one I have held for a long time. Dress for the occasion but for heaven sakes don't show up in new clothes and gear you have never used. Like you said, live(train) a little every day or at least a few times a week. I believe the primary threat is internal. They will try to keep the wheels on but it won't work for ever. Know who and what your neighbors are all about. Thats where the snitches will be hiding...in plain sight

[@peanut3050]

like it or not, the SCOTUS has said that your right under the 2a is OPEN CARRY several of the current members have also said this. Historically it was considered an unmanly assassination's to not give your opponent opportunity to conduct themselves when they are facing in an armed situation. concealed carry can be banned and regulated because it is not your right.

[@kendramckenna7312]

The way to plan for SHTF is simple. Here it goes. Don’t. Plan prepare and live. Be secretive about preps and take every battles as it comes. See here is the problem planning train and gear your life for SHFT. it’s going to be nothing you expect. Best advice be adaptable to the circumstances in front of you keep your preps plans to yourself and well trusted people. Then again they might be questionable.

[@capcloud652]

So much training, weapons, choice, kit, tactics and strategy are based upon your AO and scenario at hand. A pepper’s objectives are totally different to police , a civilian in normal times or a group, engaged in asymmetrical warfare versus a conventional standing military. A ballistic helmet, threat level 4 body armor, in a plate carrier while carrying an AR 10 with VPO, AP ammo and a pistol RDS on a 45° mount to go grocery shopping when civil unrest and crime is up, is to say the least and impolite and likely to get you arrested even in the freest most gun friendly of states. Yet that same set up would be very ideal when working a roadblock to keep out marauders, on the edge of a small town after being deputized by the local constabulary, in the event of a total collapse. Yet the inverse carrying a handgun under a cover garment, wearing at most a threat level three soft vest under your shirt with 4 spare mags under your cover garment on the weak side would be most appropriate to go grocery shopping with during civil unrest when crime is up. It would be most disadvantages to use that on the roadblock at edge of the small town after being deputized by the local constabulary to keep marauders out. Neither kit would be any good if you were a part of a QRF that responded to incidence during a collapse after being deputize by the local constabulary or going to a neighbors home to help them after your hear screams and gunshots or trying to get past the Panamanian paratrooper roadblock after the United States, is taken over by the imagined invader .the same goes for the training for each of those scenarios in the kit. Diversify your training, diversify your kit, but use similar weapon ,a weapons systems . What I mean by that is training, is simplified when going from an Ar10 to an Ar 15 and a Glock 48 to a glock 17 because familiarity manual of arms are the same . So diversification ,familiarity of training flexibility and intimate understanding of yours weapon systems is paramount especially when hands become big cumbersome mittens ,your heart is doing 400 beats a minute and you just crapped your pants because things have jumped off and rounds are flying at your head.

[@Chemo735]

I mean, it’s mission-dependent again, isn’t it? If I’m keeping an eye out for the local criminal gang to protect my family as they resupply water, then I’m in jeans and a tee-shirt. If I’m ambushing a column of Chinese armor as they drive around the Olympic Mountains, I’m in camp and full kit.

[@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078]

I have done a lot of training. Guess what, now that I'm getting older, my knees are shot, my back is giving out and my shoulder is busted up and all that training will soon do me no good. So I have changed up my training. No more kicking in doors and giving them hell. Nope. Now my training is for you to walk right by me and not know it. That and to be like AT&T with a rifle. For me this is now a little more realistic.

[@STOKERMATIC]

My body feels ya!

[@stevescott8060]

Never Front Yourself Off. The Unconventional Enemy and on his own terrain is an instinctive action , threat by first propaganda then beliefs make the Enemy formidable. Know your Enemy as you know thyself, then you may make him a friend and ally , if not, then you can kill him quickly and without remorse . Heinlein.

[@johnny_hammer]

My Opinion on SHTF Advise in a total breakdown scenario people are going to form "tribes" DAY 1. these tribes are going to war against each other day 1 and so your best training would be to build your tribe now. build your base of operations now with your tribe. if you do everything you need prep wise now, with your people, your chances of success is drastically better than having to do it after. imagine building and stocking a bunker after shtf and finding enough decent people to team up with LOL good luck.

[@Brushy01]

A perfect example of this/analog in the West was on the borders of Northern Ireland. The only time any one was in "kit" was during contact and only once contact was engaged with the occupiers not before or on the way to, and during propaganda/recruitment drives/videos.

[@devilsluck3987]

If concealed carry was so overwhelmingly advantageous; this would be the primary method of carry for police, and militaries around the world. For some reason, it isnt...

[@randystockton624]

People in general are so spoiled that when SHTF they will not make it...they never push themselves in any way...I'm talking about being uncomfortable for a while...they just will not make it and they don't have the right mind set how to get down and dirty when you have to..