Stop and search: The controversial police power (Documentary) - BBC Stories

[@divinity176]

Growing up in East London, I was stopped and searched more times than I remember - it was just a part of being young. I was never found to have anything illegal on me. I don't remember a single time I was treated with anything other than ignorance and arrogance - they often got stroppy and disappointed about not finding anything. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with random stop searching in general, the manner in which the policy is carried out shapes attitudes towards police into adulthood. Policing would be far more efficient with the support of the entire general public, rather than large swathes of us really rather wanting to avoid any interaction with them through distrust.

[@kenthall319]

The UK Police obviously are acting beyond their authority. The whole situation needs overhauling. How can one's criminal recotd be added too if nothing criminal was found?

[@tomfarrelly4872]

All the people who agree with stop and search are OK with it because they don't fear it happening to them. They have never had it happen and had to deal with it or dealt with corruption by police. Then try and get somewhere when you complain

[@splinterbyrd]

So what's the solution to knife crime?

[@imzytheory5507]

Thank you for making this, real g

[@T5Zplayer]

Rubbish, what is real is the lack of condemnation for the cowards who carry knives. Are you prepared to that?

[@X.R.808]

@@T5Zplayer there is...

[@TheCanadiangirl4]

I find you have to take this documentary with a grain of salt. Aaron Roach is already starting from a biased opinion regarding The Met and the stop and search law. I think if you want a more fair documentary on the issue it should be done by an independent person.

[@FK-xh1qc]

Exactly, this dude (Aaron) piss me off cos it seems like the student( ie, police) marking their results. Stop and search is not about reducing crime, it's about criminally profiling young black males. Please do ur research!!

[@pebblepod30]

@@FK-xh1qc But what does the data say? Stop & Frisk was immensely and wildly successful in reducing crime in New York in the 1990's before feelings became mire important than facts. And what on earth would they gain from targetting a group for no reason? I see this the same way as if it is being done to me (as long as i am just being checked, not treated badly). As a male, i am part of a group with a higher crime rate, inc child molestation. When i worked in a childcare centre, there were extra precations for me. Was i offended? Yes. But its facts vs feelings, isn't it? Stop & frisk is proven to work, and somw racial or gender groups have higher & lower crime rates. That doesn't need to be an excuse to treat other people badly.

[@pebblepod30]

@@FK-xh1qc For more on the effects of stop and frisk nased on the actual data, i suggest you look up Heather MacDonald if you are intersted in it from a factual and data perspective.

[@bumberClart1000]

TheCanadiangirl4 this documentary said it all really love btw, your Brown shirt is ready for delivery 🇬🇧🤫

[@purenkool2024]

@@pebblepod30 As a New Yorker in London I can tell you from experience that NYPD suspect everyone but there was also gun crime plus drugs in NYC. The cops in NYC carry deadly weapons and they are looking for firearms among 13 million people. So their job was much tougher than in London. Met police are not preventing crime by stop & search because the real drug gangs, are not stopped by street searches. The ones running big operations got firearms and sell tons of class A drugs. Stopping a kid on the street, taking his Cannabis away is a laughable act. How is criminalizing a kid with a bit of pot gonna make London safer? Even if they take a knife away, is it that difficult to get a new knife? The lame excuses by Met to harass innocent people without probable cause are making enemies within those harassed communities. They never stopped anyone in my wealthy neighborhood because they know better than to harass people of means who can sue the police. When you got a big house, police are at your service, saying Yes! If you live in a poorer area Met assume everyone is fair game. Easy targets puff up Met statistics. 🤭

[@shookoneldn300]

COMMUNITY policing and NOT LAZY policing is the key. The police MUST work with local communities to gain their trust and intelligence on local criminal so the police can laser focus resources on targeted stop and search. But, noooo.. the police want quick wins, they turn up with a van load every 2-3 weeks harassing locals doing useless stop and search when all the local drug dealers and criminals have legged it.. the only people left are law abiding citizens going about their business literally been put in a headlock when they complain about the search and told by the police we should be grateful. Trust me, I have seen it and I have been assault by the police. Victimised twice, by the police and criminals. 98-99% of these type of searches yield 0 results. All your get is pissed of residents, allegations of racism and criminals thriving in the community. If the figures were reversed and lazy policing works, non of us would be here arguing and commenting on stop and search. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.... All the riots in the last 30-40yrs can be traced back to this one issue. We going to keep having riots every 5-10yrs and mistrust of the police.. COMMUNITY POLICING IS THE KEY, the police should get to know the locals, bring back bobby on the beat!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pebblepod30]

@F B For more on the effects of stop and frisk based on the actual data and from a specialist in the field, i suggest you look up Heather MacDonald if you are intersted in it from a factual and data perspective.

[@lindasmith9709]

I received a bike for my bday so I was riding it to buy my present went I was stopped and searched. I knew if I said or did anything I would not live through it, the police man emptied my backpack on the ground insulted the hell out of me, then took off in his car. I felt raped.

[@derekjones2835]

You're seriously comparing your experience of being stopped and searched with rape?

[@aleks9677]

Got Stoped&Searched Multiple Times. Don't resist&Be a Idiot, you'll be fine and they will be Kind. Schook my Hand after and let me Off.

[@Hairycheese1]

So in the first scene, police are called, they are not psychic, they ask some polite questions and the young man starts to struggle and fight..... police react to this aggression and suspicion grows. Don’t kick off don’t get arrested- easy

[@harryhunter978]

Absolutely bang on

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@Hairycheese1]

@@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987 I mean unless you are blind or stupid, they are quite clearly police officers. Do workers at Tesco have to walk round constantly shouting that they work in Tesco - or is it clear from the uniform ?

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

@@Hairycheese1 their in plain clothes … they have to show a warrant card, judge said they had a vest and a camera “it should’ve been enough”, correct me if I’m wrong that’s not what the Law says

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

@@Hairycheese1 in response to stupid, I do have a learning disability might explain a few things

[@hasnainimtiaz6561]

I do not see what is wrong with stop and search.. I think most of the people in the documentary love to pretend that they have been mistreated by police, but in actual if they stay calm and not act like idiots than things will not accelerate.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@TheMirrorGuy]

I totally agree, just be cooperative as the Police are there to stop crime in the community you live.

[@adamgreen1934]

Stop and search is a legal power that is a powerful tool used by police officers, it’s down to that officer to justify the search. If needs be it will go to court. How can people that aren’t police officers say who can and can’t be searched. It’s used to save lives ! Only those who have something to hide don’t like it

[@TalkingDonkeyz]

Research has consistently shown stop and search to be ineffective at discouraging or apprehending criminals. It has also been shown to have a significant racial bias and likely a class bias too. There is no data to back up your point of view. I would argue that it gives police too much leeway to harass minorities and cause division without providing any value to the community. It puts many innocent people who have nothing to hide in the crosshairs of unjustified, invasive and aggressive police action and in aggregate reduces the quality of life.

[@pebblepod30]

@@TalkingDonkeyz That is total nonsense as far as i know - where on earth are you getting your data? Could you give me a source? For more on the effects of stop and frisk based on the actual data and from a specialist in the field, i suggest you look up Heather MacDonald if you are intersted in it from a factual and data perspective. As far as i know, it was very successful.

[@pebblepod30]

@@TalkingDonkeyz I don't care about race gams and feelings, but i do care about treating ppl the way i would want to be treated. Is it unethical? I am also from a higher crime group (male), inc molestation. When i worked in a childcare centre i was told i had to take extra precautions. I was very scared and offended. But facts over feelings or feelings over facts? Is it treating ppl badly to check them? If it is done respectfully, then i don't think so. Police often know who the local criminals are too. Very odd that you would be tsught that it didn't work don't you think? What was your source?

[@MarineAqua45]

Talking Donkey Productions Class bias? Middle-class kids from Surrey & elsewhere are highly, unlikely to be found with knives on them, or bags of drugs & cash, because they were, drug-dealing, aren’t they? Most kids who deal in drugs, are from working-class backgrounds. In places like Woolwich, Thamesmead, Abby Wood & Plumstead, ive seen black & white kids deal in drugs, in front of me, on street corners. When I went to Esher in Surrey, nobody did that, at all, so there you go.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@carloslee8396]

Only criminals or potential ones are against this police power. No other excuses!

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

I am not a criminal but i am american and i have constitutionally protected rights against behavior like this. Being suspicious is not a crime. I have a family in law enforcement and we follow our constitution. No probable cause no stop and certanly no search. Countrys like England have opressed there people for its entire existance. People have natural rights of being human and should not be violated.

[@sudocreme5080]

“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” - Joseph Goebbels

[@DXmYb]

@@sudocreme5080 you'd love george orwell

[@no4869]

@@joshofalltradesgendron5464 Well, make a choice: a) increase stop and searches, create a mild inconvenience, reduced murder rate b) reduce stop and searches, no mild inconveniences, increased murder rate any logical person would argue that choice [a] is better

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

And no other excuses lol its an infringement of someone civil rights.!!!!!! No other excuses. Do you have any idea how many people have sacrificed their lives for people like us to have civil rights. But if you want to live in a police state where a citizen who has no constitutional right to travel unmolested and the right to not be illegally searched go right ahead. Be late picking your kids up from school while a cop is board and has you for no reason stopped emptying your pockets and finds a personal note from someone. Or a woman feeling violated because her purse is being dumped out on a car hood and something embarrising to her may be in that purse like sexy stuff in an overnight bag. Or better yet since there a cop there obviously not a criminal. All the cops arrested fo embezzling and stealing is a figment of our imaginations. so let them just look in your wallet see your social and your bank card. They do not have that power because we the people have rights. They are civil servants and have more than enough power already. And what the hell do you me n.o make a choice..

[@BlueStarJT]

I think the police should have more power and do more stop and search operations. Lets face it london has not got the nicest of youngsters knocking about . and that first bodycam footage just speaks for it self , he did assault the police, he was instantly aggressive and got what he deserved for it .

[@diyking3374]

I agree with you

[@bueno_oneub_0]

These guys intimidate, attack people. And now try to pretend like they're such innocent people.

[@X.R.808]

@@bueno_oneub_0 What do you mean by "These guys"?

[@bueno_oneub_0]

@@X.R.808 The guys who complain about being stop and searched.

[@vaughanrichards7438]

Let's London

[@evolassunglasses4673]

My parents remember London when you could leave your front door open and trust was high. Then mass immigration hit and the s#it hit the fan. Everyone we knew has fled London to Essex or Kent. We need to talk about these issues MORE.

[@alexandrereis1740]

UK have rulled the world with an Imperialist idioligy for centuries, then complaining about become an hot spot for emigration

[@lesreed9269]

And became the TOWIE contingent in Essex - and the estuary "mockneys" of Kent.

[@lesreed9269]

@@alexandrereis1740 "ideology" & "immigration": not very educated are you, yet you come out with what you think as an intelligent comment? Pitiful...

[@alexandrereis1740]

@@lesreed9269 ideology in this case translate into pratical abusive laws or for you who skip the History class, colonialism. The midle class always complain about immigration and the negative consequences that comes from that, but always deny or close their eyes for the causes. Just look at the state of some of the countries that the large majority of the immigrantes came from, and be honest with urself whould u be able to provide and raise a family there?

[@lesreed9269]

​@@alexandrereis1740 You still can't spell can you - but you presume to educate us... Bizarre!

[@purenkool2024]

Why should an innocent person be accosted , traumatized just to please the Met police? This is insanity!

[@Wow55579]

Because there is a knife crime epidemic at the moment, when the ethic minorities stop committing the majority of knife crime in london then maybe the power will be removed

[@abdi1866]

@@Wow55579 so ur trying to say white ppl don’t do knife crime What u said is racist but I’m not going to babble about that But u are saying white ppl don’t do crime

[@stirlinghogan4441]

@@abdi1866 hes not saying white people arent doing crime, hes saying that ethnic minorities are commiting most of the knife crime which is true

[@TheMirrorGuy]

Why should anyone be a victim of crime. If the Police stop and search you, cooperate and thank them for reducing street crime and improving the community. If people stopped commiting crimes then we wouldn't need the Police, blame the criminals.

[@rufdymond]

@@Wow55579 - That’s a bullshit argument, stop and search has to be intelligence led, that’s all people are asking for - I as a black business man, who doesn’t sell drugs or carry a knife was once stopped 3 times in one day!. I have been stopped so many times by the police I cannot count. How can anyone justify that, how is that in anyway productive. This is just about racism and ethnic profiling, and was going on long before there was a knife problem. This has been happening since the 1970s so your argument that if knife crime stopped “stop & search” would stop or decrease is quite frankly laughable. Stop and search will not fix knife crime - Instead of looking at this as a race thing - which is what society always does, it needs to be approached differently. It needs to be looked at as a symptom of the environment in which these young men live, and then needs to be tackled from the ground up. This is not new, Glasgow was the knife crime capital of Europe and by approaching this almost like it was a health problem they greatly reduced knife crime. London has a disproportionate problem when compared to the rest of the U.K. - however if you look at the figures for the increase in street crime, it rises almost perfectly with the reduction and cuts in the various youth services that previously stopped these kids getting into trouble in the first place. Policing alone cannot fix this......

[@philflip1963]

Many, 'police officers' not only carry out illegal searches but are even outrageously casual in the way that they carry out these searches and flaunt the rules for carrying out illegal searches that they pretend to be illegal. It is often impossible to prove that the grounds for carrying out a search are illegal but it is possible to prove that the procedures for carrying out a search are being flouted. In the latter case the search can responsibly be concluded to be illegal and resisted or redress persued. But don't resist the search at the time unless you are prepared for a fight, (verbal or physical) and do not use physical force, (violence) unless you are sure that you can win, at the time AND later in court!

[@TheAlllseeeingFish]

Great work by the Met! Keep up the no nonsense stop and search!

[@edmundprice5276]

Unless you happen to be black or poor

[@lesreed9269]

@AMG BOYZ More twattery from you... Why would normal people be dragged out of their cars? No, fools like you would rather have poseurs - perhaps in their AMG's - going around the streets, carrying guns/knives and dealing drugs: you're quite pitiful, you know...

[@lesreed9269]

@@edmundprice5276 Or doing a "county lines" trip - or carrying knives/guns: but then we know that young blacks don't do such things... Before anyone drags out the race card old chestnut - I'm fully aware that white youth does such things too, and THEY should be stopped & searched, as well!

[@edmundprice5276]

@@lesreed9269 Precisely what I said, black, or poor. I.e. you can be poor and white, but most stop and searches will find nothing, and in other jurisdictions where these powers have been already rolled out, the poor and ethnic minority groups are disproportionately targeted to be searched

[@ohgoshtash3137]

Whoye privilege

[@EP3mentalist]

It took him about 5 seconds to go crazy. Don't do that

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

Search up fight or flight? Are the police a threat to black men..... Hmmm 😕

[@buster-jr5lr]

the eyes say it all not once did he look anyone in the eye

[@ohsosmooth01]

I've already made a comment, but I'd just like to say that while this is informative, eye opening... thats great and everything, but it doesn't even begin to tell us what our rights are during any interaction with police, let alone during a stop & search. It seems to me like, in that situation, you have no rights whatsoever.

[@T5Zplayer]

Strange. An opportunity to call out the gutless losers who carry knives in the first place. Thats the problem.

[@iainduncan0303]

Why do people fear being stopped and searched?? It's It's inconvenience at the very worst and might save your life at best. P.S there is a reason certain groups of people get stopped more often - for example old women of any ethnic background will not be you figure the rest out yourselves

[@juliematt1997]

I do not know if I could be calm when people are touching me without my consent . Especially when I know I am innocent of crime doing.

[@TheMirrorGuy]

Really? I know that if I am innocent I have nothing to be concerned about. I will be cooperative and thank the Police for trying to reduce street crime. Too many people are victims of street crime, usually young men who are stopped the most. The biggest statistical difference in stop and search is male verses female, so why are they not talking sexism as it is a bigger statistic than race.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@TheMirrorGuy]

@@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987 aww boo hoo, stop being such a Snowflake.

[@djguy100]

Look at the crime stats/demographics and come back and chat to me.

[@Armed-Forever]

djguy100 the search was unlawful

[@pebblepod30]

@F B For more on the effects of stop and frisk based on the actual data and from a specialist in the field, i suggest you look up Heather MacDonald if you are intersted in it from a factual and data perspective.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

Look up what "per-capita" means. Then look at what "over-representation" means

[@lesreed9269]

@AMG BOYZ Explain what are "bullshit " reasons when, upon investigation, a goodly percentage are in possession drugs or weapons!

[@lesreed9269]

@Robert Murray Oh Robert, Robert... This fool no more has an AMG Mercedes than you or I: he's just a twat - who has high ideas, but the nearest he'll ever have, to such a thing, is a model car to JO over!

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

@amg im from the united states and have constitutionally protected rights. Im glad to see someone else educated and aware that this is wrong. Trying to have a civilised debate with these people is near impossible it all ends the same no facts stubborn opinions and name calling lol. So thank you for standing up for yourself and others. Also to the others who are commenting im not pointing out anyone specifically in this post or trying to start an argument just pointing out what i have been dealing with in other comments.

[@michaelmorris2300]

absolute numbers, and per-capita. The dance that the racist plays, using one metric of absolute numbers for one argument, then switches to per-capita for another. Sorry, I called you a racist, as you cant be, as your best friend is black.

[@purenkool2024]

@@joshofalltradesgendron5464 Absolutely right on the money! As an American in Britain, I could tell you that the British have no civil rights, ergo the Met police abuse their power with zero accountability. Americans in USA are protected by the Constitution but Britain is a system that abuses civil rights of its Subjects without any recourse. BRITISH SUBJECTS ARE NOT US CITIZENS! People in UK watch American tv and imagine that their civil rights are magically “protected”. Wronggg! US Constitution is unique instrument. Britain is about a 100 years behind USA on everything. Here, we are still living in Victorian England. I rest my case!

[@michaelselman3094]

It's great to say people need to remain more calm but Mr. Bridgeman is saying this as a mature adult. It is unrealistic to think young people will be able to exhibit such a mature level of control.

[@lesreed9269]

@maximumchron Indeed Max. Always the victim, as in, "I's 'ad an 'ard life, m'lud - an' I carnt 'elp meself" when they appear in court for antisocial behaviour of one sort or another. They seem to think that normal behaviour doesn't apply to many (not all) of them. I remember coming home, as a child, with a policeman, for some minor infraction: I got a bollocking from the police AND my mother. Lesson learnt!

[@damienjupe8553]

Person of interest because of how he looked. But arrested because of his reaction! If ur innocent people, stay calm and comply, for ur own benefit

[@heatherbaker8596]

Just how many serious/terrorist crimes has this stoped compared to the number of traumatised people it has resulted in. it isn't worth it.

[@ohsosmooth01]

Of course, a big problem with a ride along is the police with behave appropriately, but when they're not being watched...

[@Gogert777]

Dont resist. It's that simple.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest. You can't resist an unlawful arrest

[@Gogert777]

@@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987 taking a shit that smells like dead dogs tho

[@mielerodriguez5678]

Look at the crime stats. Whose doing it? Per Capita?

[@jgvfyufcgvk9234]

LIKE THE MIGRANT STABBINGS IN GERMANY ETC!!

[@Armed-Forever]

Miele Rodriguez keep that same energy when you get strip searched for looking like a Mexican drug lord

[@pebblepod30]

@@Armed-Forever Stop and search in NY disnt include strip search i think

[@thomasfarrelly8591]

What a shit thing to say , still has rights .now look at all other races stopped and searched to make it all this right at the cost of everybody's rights

[@splinterbyrd]

So what's the solution to knife crime?

[@jamesbarratt593]

Doesnt matter how you portray ot in a documentary, or how much operatic music you lace with the scenes, we know the answer. Stop n search is a vital part of policing. If you dont like being searched, tough. You lock your door when leaving your home, dont you? Suggests you know about thieves. How do police catch thieves? By knowing they are thieves and to do that they have to stop people and search people. Unless you are a low down dirty thief, just accept it. They will soon realise you are good if you are and then leave you alone. I have zero objections myself. Im not a thief.

[@michaelmorris2300]

"I have zero objections myself. Im not a thief." ? We don't know. Maybe you will be OK with being subjected to a cavity search, just to make sure. You may even volunteer for a strip search.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@yaz5413]

You match the descriptions Area known for drug dealing Burglary hot spot You are being defensive I can smell cannabis You are being evasive You drove off when you saw me

[@T5Zplayer]

How about taking the opportunity to call scum who deal in drugs and carry knives?

[@patrykmilarski1586]

I got stopped and searched last night 😂

[@unknown.unknowingly]

Your clothing description is 100% grounds lol, some factors are heavily disputed but in general clothing description is grounds

[@matraz0404]

Exactly what I was thinking. In the area where I live (Huddersfield) the way he’s dressed already sends flags. It looks shady as hell.

[@ht-ve9fe]

You cannot say comply when they think it's appropriate to rush you like a criminal. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, we are not in a napoleonic law system.

[@seyerus]

He was convicted. A jury convicted him, they obviously saw all of the evidence.

[@thundercity311]

@AMG BOYZ No, convicted by a Jury, sentenced by the Judge.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest. The judge? A case of malicious prosecution

[@seyerus]

@@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987 Their BWV would have been scrutinised to ensure that GOWISELY was followed which includes the procedural requirement, not legal requirement to give their names etc.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

@@seyerus well it wasn't you can check my channel and watch it yourself then let me know if your opinion changes, the courts are racist.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

@@seyerus procedural requirement is supposed to abide by the codes of ethics and practice and the EA 2010, protected characteristics should be considered especially without officers complying with GOWISELY. “police yeah” isn’t ID, a special constable should know that right? Check up CJA26.... The issue was I questioned an unlawful section 1 Pace search carried by plain clothed officers who failed to identify themselves, in court they said I got “immediately violent without saying a word” and decided not to refer to their statements they wrote at the time, I'll do a video on that if necessary. They are terrible liars just had a bit of PTSD to accompany my autism. The issue is I'm black and smart. Black and I know my rights, that's not allowed is it? Maybe they unhinged a screw perhaps? I definitely spoke in the footage, you can agree? So why the assertion made by officers there was no dialogue. Institutional racism. Apparently I'm a habitual knife carrying gang member, narratives believable for about 30 seconds. Then you can clearly see these officers have no clue, where was the questioning? Is alleviating grounds not a thing in black skin? Chip on my shoulder right? 😂

[@jgvfyufcgvk9234]

see yt vids on how african police treat you

[@jgvfyufcgvk9234]

.

[@koleeehasgoodfeet887]

Do they treat u good

[@Norvik_-ug3ge]

Reggie Yates has let himself go...

[@nelsonfraser2800]

Stay calm and know your rights......... you mean act like a normal adult? Amazing.

[@avaborch-solem2300]

Humans aren't developed until we're 25. You can act like you're better than everyone else, but that doesn't fix shit. You'll just hinder people from growing because they will be in defensive mode because of people like you who wrongfully accuse them of being idiots

[@no4869]

@Amazing Ava Don't commit crime, then you'll have little to worry about. On the plus side, stop and searches reduce the knife possession rate, which many will argue is a good thing.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@rboeyrt4054]

Man assaults police officer, convicted, denied an appeal twice. Stop crying mate, no one believes you

[@KadzMoESOPKPvP]

Plain clothes police need to present a warrant card before they detain someone which didn’t happen as you can see

[@rboeyrt4054]

@@KadzMoESOPKPvP irrelevant comment

[@KadzMoESOPKPvP]

@@rboeyrt4054 in what way if stop and search policy says plain clothes officers MUST SHOW ID before using S&S powers

[@rboeyrt4054]

@@KadzMoESOPKPvP irrelevant comment

[@KadzMoESOPKPvP]

@@rboeyrt4054 explain

[@7R011S]

If you have nothing to hide why react aggressively... Just wait 2 minutes and that is it!

[@zovergames]

Yep there is too many knife crime

[@michaelmorris2300]

So he had something to hide then????? what did they find??????

[@michaelmorris2300]

@@zovergames So they found a knife on him then?

[@michaelmorris2300]

@edward harris because you don't get stopped, you can say anything. What you are saying doesn't make any sense unless you want a police state, with checkpoints everywhere with everyone being searched. Trust me, people won't stand for that. The nothing to hide cliche is a mentally lazy argument used to justify violating people's privacy. You would probably advocate for everyones home being searched on a regularly basis, and as you dont have anything to hide, then you theres nothing to worry about.

[@michaelmorris2300]

@edward harris Your reference to your personal experiences in Italy is fair, except for the fact that, in the UK, its a certain demographic, which has an ethnic component, ie over policing of minorities, is what is the problem.

[@acegamingdm8153]

Great documentary , very insightful

[@GlobetrotterBR]

Comply, be polite and you won't get shit. Very simple.

[@GlobetrotterBR]

@AMG BOYZ Just follow my initial advice, don't try to be a smart arse during the approach and nothing will happen to you. Nothing. If you are not in debt to society, obviously.

[@lesreed9269]

@AMG BOYZ Would this be AFTER you failed to stop - when asked. How old are you - on your moped? I ask because a young black, who was killed recently, in a police incident whilst riding his "moped", was underage. Very little - in fact no - mention of his age was made, when everybody said what a fine boy he was: would he still be a "fine boy" if he'd maimed or killed a member of YOUR family - whilst "innocently riding uninsured"?

[@lesreed9269]

@@GlobetrotterBR Just so - nearly 70 and have been pulled up many times on a motorcycle/car only to be let go without issue: being civil is the key. You don't have to kowtow to authority - just don't treat them like shit when you get pulled up.

[@GlobetrotterBR]

@AMG BOYZ Ok, so keep acting like an idiot, being treated like shit as a consequence, and don't come to cry on KZbin's comments.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@fuckbankers]

If you know your rights they give you grief

[@TheBILLANDERSON]

uhummm, @11:08 not quite right,,👀 CODE A 2.1 cooperation must be sought in every case/situation ,even if if the person objects to it art.10 HRA 1998 , but often they use , your bigger than me,, my protection ,, making off,, ect is NOT under PACE , but it is well known they commit a battery , often , The problem is with "police code of practice"" the code is not an Instructional it is a guidance BUT police must have a very , very good , relevant reason and explanation as to why they have departed from that guidance ,, 👀 As we know , we will never get that relevant reason & explanation , and still will commit battery to community 🙏

[@lastxp]

Do you have anything on you that can hurt me? I'm a snake handler, I have a poisonous snake in my bag.

[@THEGARNERCOLLECTIVE]

i think we need eternal campaigns forcing to treat each other nice and be good to each other and treat with respect. make tv commercials that show ads like this billboards around areas enforcing it and never take them down. the reason its getting worse in uk is because its drug addicts now raising children or there going out getting their education from other people in the area. we need campaigns that force doing the right thing helping others being kind to each other. all news reports on net about crime in uk is done by the under 30 male which is the problem with uk. if you google crimes throughout the years in uk you be shocked, police are here to stop the male urges of rape, murder, burglarly and theft. i hate when people say they hate the police its like they are saying i hate the police because they are stopping me breaking into a house and robbing the items. new campaigns as said promoting its cool to help each other and get along with people the occasional hello to strangers will suprise you as they will reply alright back to you or a nod to them will get them nodding back.

[@DXmYb]

Jury Nullification Do you know what that is, look it up?

[@annon2354]

For discussion only, let's say that 2 thirds of knife crime in London are committed by black men aged 18 to 30. If the police stop and search numbers target 2 thirds black men aged 18 to 30 and 1 third everyone else, can the police be considered to be abusing their stop and search powers?

[@o1.activee_379]

Sarah Hartley but they don’t search 1 third. They only search black yutes

[@thundercity311]

@@o1.activee_379 Maybe they should search more old white ladies? Would that be an effective use of Police resources?

[@ZaJaClt]

@@o1.activee_379 start reporting your friends for carrying knives then

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

Its out of control and illegal. Educate yourself and defend your rights

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@garylewis7893]

I watch and follow live free, auditing Britain and other KZbinrs and I'm learning a lot about rights! For example if your stopped in your car you DO NOT have to get out and into their car! Fact! Remember to say nothing or very little and like in previous comment you are not obliged to give details unless your arrested or committed a crime!! I mean you can't even go into a police station now you have to use 101 which is a waste of time! I've lost all my trust in the police and many eyes are starting to open!

[@jaymacdonald4690]

Olympia,Washington, that states capitol, was a rather odd and strange and unusual place. When I lived there it reminded me of the Village from the TV show The Prisoner where Number 6 was domiciled at.

[@adamranson457]

If you have done nothing wrong why fight. Protect the public from violent crime police doing there job. Stop playing the victim.

[@TheMirrorGuy]

The clear problem is how disrespectful these individuals are to the Police. Remember why the Police were there in the first place, a women in your community had been asulted. Stop blaming the Police for your own attitude and problems in your own community.

[@KadzMoESOPKPvP]

No one got assaulted 🙄🙄

[@TheMirrorGuy]

​@@KadzMoESOPKPvP So are you saying the film maker is lying when he said 'a woman had been assulted'.

[@KadzMoESOPKPvP]

@@TheMirrorGuy kzbin.infoTzw10OaN0jA?feature=share yeah actually …. Everyone was wearing tracksuits there were no belts, the allegation was this girl got smacked with a belt…no one should be approached in that manner over an ALLEGATION stop and search involves questioning and to question someone is/was part of a stop & search because of intrusive questioning (what you’re doing, where you’re going) … I’m also Autistic so you could imagine that a stranger approaching you not saying their name …station …object of search or showing a warrant card might make a person recoil NOT resist, make sure you check the wording because how do you resist an unlawful arrest? you let me know how many gang bangers play Elders Scrolls Online btw 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ police lie like Wayne couzens lied to Sarah everard so why wouldn’t the MET have lied to the BBC over the use of their most “controversial power” we can all play investigator that’s why non uniformed constables have warrant cards, not only that that’s why section 3.8 of PACE CODE A specifically mentions a warrant card … police are the public & the public are the police supposedly, so again who’s at fault the Black boy who knows his rights and is defending them? but I’ve been to Downing Street to discuss this issue & done work with the violence reduction unit on over policing black youths … oh yeah and I’m a published author yet your on KZbin comments … I’d rather focus on something transformative quit gaming to focus on real world corruption it’s a dirty game when the law doesn’t abide by the law that’s the definition of an outlaw but hey you must still support “nigger hunting” right? The funny thing despite the name of this documentary I didn’t match the description the description was “a group of kids who looked about 16”

[@KadzMoESOPKPvP]

How was i disrespectful by the way? By alleviating grounds for search? By challenging unlawful conduct? Or disrespectful because I don’t “know my place?”

[@TheMirrorGuy]

@@KadzMoESOPKPvP my god you just can't see it can you. Nobody in the video is cool, calm and collected. Raised voices, not able to talk calmly, and not willing to listen to what the officers are saying. In your reply you talk about your rights, what about the rights of the person who had been assaulted? Do you not want to help the Police identify the attacker? I've been stopped by the Police many times, I always talk calmly, and lI don't interrupt when the Officer is talking. That's being respectful. I would not even consider 'my rights", why would I if I was innocent?

[@yonathanisaa6695]

The bigest problem is the ipcc and jage suport the police

[@T5Zplayer]

No, the biggest problem is people who fail to call out drug dealers and knive carrying losers for what they are. You have an opportunity..........

[@stefanscicluna2799]

why is it that black people complain about things like this when they are a small minority and are the highest majority of arrests? i mean people can lie or exaggerate but facts don't lie

[@jaigorkhali2828]

it's true unless they stop this behaviour this small community of only 1 to 2 percent will always be searched more than others. satistics and the news dont lie.

[@Ironkhight]

@@jaigorkhali2828 stats have a less likely to be wrong but news is heavily bias

[@jaigorkhali2828]

@@Ironkhight yes to a certain extent the news can be unsure but what I've experienced in my life reflects on the satistics unforutunaletly. I've seen black teens stab each other to death at my college and all the people who went to prison whom I knew at school were all mostly black. they need help what more can we say.

[@itstracyhawkins]

It is what it is.

[@tonybyrd7969]

You are what you are.

[@zovergames]

Yeah

[@ohgoshtash3137]

White privilege. Ok Karren!

[@fuckbankers]

Complaining is a waste of time.

[@fengshui7384]

So long as there's gang violence etc...Hmm can't be bothered. Bye folks.

[@light3r706]

JAMAL ???

[@lynnleigha580]

They need to bring this back to America

[@petermclelland278]

Unfortunately, not thinking before you open your mouth seems to be the norm in youth culture ? - If in doubt ? say 'nowt' ?

[@danieltaylor1155]

This is peckham

[@ph11p3540]

Why would anyone wear a hood up on a perfectly nice day or indoors. That's a red flag for something that's wrong or that they are up to no good.

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

The “officers” arrived with their hoods on, it was raining heavily too hence me standing under shelter. They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@elizabethmunson2129]

If I was the police in these areas I would be terrified too let’s be real

[@unlawfularrestexcessivefor1987]

They didn't identify themselves at any point and they have their hands all over me if you check steps taken before search 3.8 CODE A you'll see this was an unlawful arrest

[@Xenis112]

Back the blue!

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

funny/odd that there seems to be no British ebonics...

[@FuuuckOffff]

There are, we can tell immediately by accent if someone is black. The guy in this video isn't using slang but he still has an accent.

[@michaelstevens3479]

I think people need to accept that those that mug/rob and steal from you only do it from need it it is not personal.

[@lesreed9269]

Deluded... Most crime is committed for self gain, and not necessity. Crime like shoplifting food, because your family is hungry, is one thing - mugging people/dealing drugs/turf violence/burglaries to feed drug habits are what we're on about curtailing!

[@T5Zplayer]

This is probably the stupidest thing I have read on any platform.

[@righttobloodydissent]

Weird how a minority commits more than double the crime of the native Briton.

[@pebblepod30]

@natty nate Haitian Zulu warrior spirit He is talking about domestic crime today. I assume he doesnt mean blaming all ppl of a particular race, but it id just a statement of statistics.

[@pebblepod30]

@natty nate Haitian Zulu warrior spirit Also, most ppl reject the principle of racial guilt, which your comment assumes as a given.

[@sst6358]

Disgraceful it's all on video he did nothing 😢💔

[@edmundprice5276]

The difference of the law is whether you are white-british or not and whether you are rich or poor

[@edmundprice5276]

@Robert Murray first things first, you are more likely to be stopped and searched if you are black or poor Second, a person of wealth can afford a lawyer to defend themselves in court, a poor person cannot

[@edmundprice5276]

@Robert Murray You happen to be speaking to an ethnic white European from a culturally middle class family that exists on the breadline

[@terencemullins1422]

Why is the media pandering to a tiny minority of thugs !!?

[@tangomike15]

I can’t see the problem with stop and search. Get over it.

[@fuckbankers]

I remember SUS

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

Im grateful my ancestors scalped redcoats and protected my freedom to be a good human and member of my society that is able to bear arms to protect myself and family because no matter what country or people criminals by definition do not follow laws so good citizens such as myself have a human right to defend themselves. Im so sorry for all you people still stuck under a fascist regime to where you need to break laws to protect yourself. Stand tall organise get powers in numbers and work towards change.

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

No im not im dead serious. And i have a constitutionally protected right to speak that truth because my ancestors did what they did. After all the blood that was shed to give myself these rights and my fellow americans. america right now is slipping with these facist leftist diseased idiologys but i am greatful every single day im not in that little shithole island over the pond.

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

@mhffc nope and you can call me what ever you want because in my beautiful country people have the right to freedom of speech its there first amendment garenteed by the constitution. And than the most beautiful amendment is the 2nd because that protects us from tyranny. Those to amendments are the legs that hold up our country. We fought and our ancestors laid down there lives for this because freedom is a human right of life. And im greatful my ancestors my native Heritage and my french canadian heritage on bolth sides i have family members who fought in many wars especially revolutionary war to gain our freedom. First off knives are a tool the weapon is a human first they disarmed you guys took your guns away and you let them and now wothout guns people are still evil so they use knives. So you guys ban knives (the most versatile tool used in everyday life) its pathetic. People will find a way to hurt someone regaurdless. Next england will ban glass bottles because they can be shattered into a weapon. Oh and what are you guys going to do next ban trees omg a stick can stab someone so you better cut them all down before someone gets hurt. Oh and no automobiles because people are starting to run people over so you goverment is going to ban those to you watch. What the people of england are dealing with is TYRRANY. To randomly stop and violate a person is wrong so stop and search is wrong. Until someone is convicted of a crime they are supposed to be presumed innocent well at least in my country with common cense. Seriously what is going through your head to where you honestly feel its ok for a random stranger to stop you touch you and look through your private property. Your goverment is almost communist at this point. Seriously why do you think its ok to violate someone?

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

@mhffc im 34 and have a masters degree thankyou. I do however apologize for my grammar i have trouble typing on this small screen. Im truly sorry you feel i speak rubbish hopefully someday you can actually experience real freedom. At no point have i been rude to you or hostile, i am just speaking the truth. I ask you please tell me why you think its ok for someone to randomly search you and your property? Also please explain to me how carrying a simple cutting tool endangers peoples lives, i would really like to have a honest debate with you. I give you facts from my beautiful country and our constitutional rights and you poke name call and completely evade the subject on wich you commented on. So please explain it to me.

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

@mhffc i do have a masters in metallurgy. Trade sciences. And some states such as newyork city has stop and frisk and its illegal by federal law. Illegal because it infringes on our civil rights. But state law enforces it and most people do not have the money to branch out a legal case to the supreme court. And yes there where natives that took place in the revolutionary war. Most native Americans in this country have been shit on ran of there land and where given small pox blankets so natives did not make it into the history books. The revolutionary war was the so called worst "indian war" the most "extensive indian war" overpowerd tribes where forced to fight for the british. For instance the mohawk sided with british hoping it would slow american expansion. Among others. My ancestors the iroquois fought for the american patriots as well as oneida. And another one of my ancestors of nipmuc Heritage also fought along american patriots. And when i was growing up being educated on our heritage and past i was presented a long lock of hair with dried skin attached. A beautiful relic of history (THE SCALP OF A REDCOAT). among other artifacts preserved from that time in history. So with that said keep talking shit, be but hurt all you want at the end of the day i get to go to sleep knowing im a free man unlike you. So have a good day ttl

[@joshofalltradesgendron5464]

So "unlike you i know a little about american history" my family lived it, we lived it generation after generation. We fought, we bleed, we sweat, some died and we built this country. We the people. So with all this said and done. You are incapable of an actual conversation unless its what you want to hear. So i will graciously bow out of this conversation so i know longer endanger anymore of my braincells on your rederick. So have fun living oppressed. Bye

[@viggolewis1079]

What are the grounds, pathetic

[@Darkamiseh85]

YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY TO POLICE YOU HAVE RIGHTS

[@NoBody-gf8ie]

If you’re detained for a search you do!

[@MrDanielfff777]

Just respect the police

[@darragney623]

No ...

[@no4869]

@@darragney623 That's how situations escalate Rayshard Brooks Jacob Blake etc

[@darragney623]

@@no4869 but what about Breonna Taylor who was shot dead in her own apartment/flat by Louisville Police when I believe she didn’t do anything that would provoke them

[@no4869]

@@darragney623 But if you just follow instructions then situations won't escalate. The reason why Jacob Blake, Rayshard Brooks, Michael Brown and Daunte Wright cases escalated is because they failed to follow basic instructions that would've prevented escalation.

[@darragney623]

@@no4869 just because you follow the rules doesn’t mean it won’t escalate. An example is Daniel Prude was compliant with the police but decided to put a bag on his head and suffocated him on the pavement. He followed the rules. Breonna Taylor’s flat/apartment broken into by police officers who were wearing plain clothes and not announcing they were police for a suspected “drug use” in her house. She repeatedly asked who was it but no response. She would have helped the police search if there was drugs. An off topic but still related thing is in the UK after the killing of Sarah Everard by a Metropolitan police officer everyone is losing trust in them due to the fact if they’re supposed to be helping people like Women who feel uncomfortable in the streets and the police do that. No wonder why many people don’t listen to them.

[@vanessaalvesdealves7152]

Muita xenofobia nos comentários.

[@robertlangley1664]

Good job we are now sending some so called people back to the country of the orgin

[@bumberClart1000]

Stop and birch more like 😔☝️🇬🇧

[@arielfernando7126]

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