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@JohnPaul-nm9jz4 жыл бұрын
Do you mind recommending which Skillshare videos you've found that are valuable for the hobby?
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnPaul-nm9jz all the basic photography classes and how to take pictures with your smartphone stuff. Illustration classes, especially the one by jazza. Some design classes, especially the ones about color harmony.
@-powerband-gamer-61174 жыл бұрын
fools, just go and look how it happens and looks in real life, then copy what you see, are your really that stupid????????????????????
@mreboric22154 жыл бұрын
"sometimes the results just look terrible" Shows an example that's actually really well done.
@OEFarredondo3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was about to say the same. I guess subtle chipping is in? I like the completely battle damaged look. It’s a all war all the time world…
@deejeh94942 жыл бұрын
@@OEFarredondo no time for repairs when there is only war
@OEFarredondo2 жыл бұрын
@@deejeh9494 AdMech: All systems are nominal and repairs are done... Space Marine: yeah she needs a paint job bad though. Admech: it does nothing for combat effectiveness... Space Marine: It still got nurgling guts and half the DNA of the Sector Imperialis on it bro!
@ashlevrier2 жыл бұрын
Yah. When I saw that. It tells me that he prefers a style over a different one. This is just his opinion which make the video useless.
@Palocles Жыл бұрын
@@ashlevrier miniature art is subjective but he’s won some Golden Demons so if that’s your aim too then his advice has value.
@dist0rted3204 жыл бұрын
Me: *Looks at thumbnail* Also me: "Both... Both is good."
@rudboypaintbrawl4 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's a matter of taste and maybe a bit of depth/colour variation in that 'miserably failed' Dred ;)
@andraslibal3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wish I could do chipping. Let's start with that. For now I can base coat. I think I can base coat. It covers. I covers well. Then I shade with a wash and then I highlight. Then I watch videos like these to see the vast universe of possibilities awaiting for me in the future :))
@johnjoseph20103 жыл бұрын
I've been skipping this video for months because I think the check mark photo in thumbnail looks worse than the crossed out one lol
@TheGreyCrusadeStudio4 жыл бұрын
I almost cried when he weathered the golden demon white dreadnought...
@dawidkowalewicz58454 жыл бұрын
It's AMAZING that I can live in a time where I can have access to masteclass like this. I remember buying my 1st minis in the 90's and I had noone to ask or talked to about the techniques. amazing.
@sf6break4 жыл бұрын
I really struggle with painting being colorblind, but this video helped me wrap my mind around weathering. Thank you very much.
@adiebland9220Ай бұрын
You sir are a painting god, you make it look so simple and you demystify an extremely daunting task…….thank you……….I salute you too
@ikkiiiieee4 жыл бұрын
Trov, I really am gratefull that you exist. Your humor in the vids, the sheer quality and knowledge of your content (enhanced by your history as a teacher), ... The list goes on. I truly wish you the best in life. Thank you, M
@lucyfuir63864 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I built a lot of model cars I would get dents and scrapes by using heat. I would use a heat gun in certain areas and then take a wooden dowel and push areas in also did the same effect with pins to get scrapes and scratches. Dents I would do post primer pre paint. Scratches post paint. Also flatten tires. I used to run working l.e.d. head and tail lights. I got bored with making them look good so I started making junkyard cars and accident smashed cars. Two car accident scenes and cars smashed into trees. My local hobby town put several in the front window.
@martymcsmartyns4474 жыл бұрын
you had me at the 'affection' you showed your paints! good job!
@grantholomeu37254 жыл бұрын
Why did the "YIKES" example look good!?
@Lavendeer201 Жыл бұрын
4:34 after working in a factory and seeing scrapes etc, these lines made by moving the sponge look really accurate. I really like this look and it seems as if the model scraped against an enemy in battle or sustained some light damage
@lukelblitz36274 жыл бұрын
....what's wrong with the dreadnought The chipping looks pretty good
@StrCmdr4 жыл бұрын
It looks good, but unrealistic. Seems you didn't get the point. Technically it looks great but shape and position of most of the chips were just unnatural.
@VillainousMuse4 жыл бұрын
luke d'amato it really is the difference between the layman versus a professional. You see it as just fine ( and nothing wrong with that ) but an artist is always seeing what is wrong with what they do. This is the way we improve, by constantly seeing what is wrong we strive to do even better.
@npc68174 жыл бұрын
@@VillainousMuse not to mention every mistake is easyier to spot since he did it himself
@mattislindehag30654 жыл бұрын
@@StrCmdr If i ever want to make the point that my model has been coated in wall plaster, either lessen it's IR signature or to counter magnetic grenades, i think i will use this chipping style. Look closely at it. It works really well if you imagine that the drednaught is covered in a crust of white plaster that has chipped in big chunks to reveal naked metal metal underneath.
@StrCmdr4 жыл бұрын
@Gareth Did you watch the video? He explains it... *sigh*
@aarondowning57913 жыл бұрын
Your first "yikes" example looks better than anything I can do.
@timothee-axellechowicz97344 жыл бұрын
I actually love both. The dread is fantastic...
@GuardsmanHanan4 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate! As a mediocre painter, the sponge method is definitely the easiest to use and turns out pretty decent.
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
nice! thanks!
@davidhills79864 жыл бұрын
Haha. All the precious paints. Nice bit of humour.
@chrissteadman46144 жыл бұрын
Another hugely useful video that I am sure I will make good use of in the future. One thing I have found is to collect a range of different foams, with different size 'bubbles', they are not all the same! Using two or three different sponges helps increase the randomness.
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's indeed a good advice!
@scottn3224 жыл бұрын
One thing that helped me, although perhaps it was a weird thought, was that I started taking note of vehicles in parking lots or around town; I would, without trying to look like too much of a weirdo or like I was trying to break into them lol, was note what various colored vehicles looked like when they would become worn and chipped. It is interesting to see the way the paint seemed to shift at the edges of where it would chip on a car, and either the plastic or metal underneath would become exposed. It helped me in determining what would look more natural for various colors.
@cavemanworkshop4 жыл бұрын
Chipping like a potato... 🤔 I see what you did there!
@warhounds4 жыл бұрын
PO TA TOES, mash em boil em
@jasonrhome7104 жыл бұрын
I... honestly got this channel confused with Kujo's until I hit play...
@MrStatistx4 жыл бұрын
I totally appreciate not focussing on non-acrylic products. The ONLY non-acrylic stuff I was willing to get so far was a brown enamel wash for generic use, streaking grime for non-organic stuff like armor and slimy grime for organic, if I ever want to go a full grimdark route, but aside from that I'm going to stick to the tons of acrylics I have. This video will come in handy when I paint my first armiger knight (which I bought second hand and sadly only later found out didn't have the bottom torso plate that connects to the legs, so now I gotta build something first)
@davedogge22804 жыл бұрын
Weathering is mostly about being brave with a rough uneven sponge with just the right amount of paint..
@MrStatistx4 жыл бұрын
And not overdoing it. With weathering it's best to stop earlier and add stuff than overdoing it
@davedogge22804 жыл бұрын
@@MrStatistx my first weathering was GW rhinox hide sponged onto Flashgitz yellow. It was nerve wracking but it tuned out ok.
@addressunknown84 жыл бұрын
This was just what I needed. You're doing the Empror's work. Keep it up!
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
o7
@Wotsit77814 жыл бұрын
Brilliant advice. I think sometimes it’s tempting to do too much weathering the bike looked fantastic
@lunahula4 жыл бұрын
If you finish chipping your model by acrylic and find the lighter colour for chipping has desaturated things too much, or the contrast is a bit harsher than you intended. Try going over the scratched areas with an ink glaze the colour of your mid-tone. This re-saturates what might have been lost to the brighter tone, while also bringing both chipping highlight and mid-tone colour closer together. You can then always make another pass to exaggerate this further or come in with the chipping highlight colour again on selective high edge corners and other points you want to raise the exaggeration on.
@simontwosheds Жыл бұрын
Trov mentioned that this method didn't work so well on darker colours. All the best chipped models seem to be light. I'm going to try your method, which might help with it. I'm thinking it might help to replace the very dark central area of each chip with a metallic, which could then be glazed to adjust, or rust. I saw a GW painter do something similar on weathered black armour, with a grey chip surround.
@axp85984 жыл бұрын
Leaving one or 2 panels in perfect condition suggests the panel(s) was/were damaged and replaced. It can work very well if done correctly.
@sergeysmirnov1062 Жыл бұрын
Holy hell yes, why did that not occur to me before, best also to maybe even put in a tinge more paint on them suggesting that the sun has not yet started to bleach the paint (or however that gradual loss of saturation is called)
@m0ng0b0t4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best and most complete explanation on this topic i saw so far. Good Work! :) Would love to see something similar on OSL.
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! There is some osl videos on the patreon!
@alienatedbeing75134 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Haven’t got round to trying out chipping yet, I like the aesthetic but I’m worried I’ll mess up models that took me many days to paint! 😅
@impguardwarhamer4 жыл бұрын
if its a tank, always chip the bottom and places you're gonna cover in mud first. Gives you a chance to practice
@dougsundseth69044 жыл бұрын
Consider sealing the model before you do the chipping. Then, if you hate the result, you can more easily reset to the unchipped state.
@martinlubojacky1124 жыл бұрын
best chipping video in a long time
@gomezzara_creative4 жыл бұрын
So many great tips! Thank you so much Uncle Trovarion! :D
@quizongilad2 жыл бұрын
from 2022 here .. dude you've explained what I've been observing IRL and it makes more sense.
@enveritas49484 жыл бұрын
Great tips. You've also massively levelled up your video production skills in the last year, good stuff dude.
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@alexmetea35862 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on your leather weathering technique? It looks really good.
@AlfredThompsonIV4 жыл бұрын
After applying the darker color step of chipping you can highlight the bottom edges in darker section or use point highlights at the corners of chips using a white tone or metallic to give the illusion of 3-dimensional depth to the chip. Light would catch and reflect off the bottom lip of a gouge. The chips may also follow the gradient of the shading of the model by painting lighter scratches near the top or light source of the mini and darker scratches in the shadows or near the base.
@robinrussell2099 Жыл бұрын
This is your best video title ever. Geat content too (as always).
@piotrcthlu Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this helps a lot. Struggled to get realistic weathering on my guardsmen shoulder pads in last project, I have some ideas now 🎉 someone mentioned this but id say again that were really blessed with such high quality professional content available for us at any time. If you put your mind to this its truly huge help to improve ongoing projects.
@impguardwarhamer4 жыл бұрын
worth pointing out the hairspray chipping showed on screen here is to represent a winter white wash, which is a temporary paint they'd put on tanks during the winter that would end up heavily chipping like this. If that's something you want for your army it may be still worth trying
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
The hairspray method is still worth trying in general. BUT people do it wrong and the chips end up looking out of scale and in the wrong places and weird shapes. It's always mentioned as an "easy" technique, when actually it's not that easy to make look good and realistic.
@Kilian23 жыл бұрын
Thank you, until now I only had the perspective and information of the scale modeler crowd. It’s really interesting and enlightening to see what you can do with “just” acrylics.
@migutau4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Unification Wars forgoten Thunder Warrior veteran, I use Humbrol enamels ONLY. Awsome job mate!
@Snake3694 жыл бұрын
Upvoted for the rubbing paint containers in face alone but the rest of the video was great and insightful too.
@FHangya Жыл бұрын
excellent deconstruction of the techniques.
@Born_Stellar4 жыл бұрын
excellent! I had just decided that doing chipping and weathering is going to be how I paint all my mini's. I did my imperial knight with chipping and decided to do my necrons from indomius like this as well.
@1234kalmar3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get home and start painting! Thank you!
@crymric4 жыл бұрын
I really need to get a nice pointy brush for this. Thanks for the advices, it's helps alot!
@HerbaceousM84 жыл бұрын
another thing to think about is Dark chipping into a metallic grey or light rust
@thewarp2396 Жыл бұрын
on larger chips i sometimes use a combination of agrax earthshade and riekland flesh to make a sorta rust-dribble effect
@enginepy Жыл бұрын
I love realistic damage. I don’t do any corrosion as I feel that the materials used in armor from 30,000 years in the future wouldn’t rust. I also like to add some fresh looking panels without any damage as those would be new parts that were replaced between battles
@uriance884 жыл бұрын
After going through a bunch of comments and seeing a common question - revert to real life when thinking about chipping something that is painted metal. Chrome is a coating, so it chips to the underlying metal/primer coat (and usually comes off in flakes/chunks). Metal tends to corrode when the surface chips (the example image of the worn old car is a perfect example) Most armour has an undercoat/primer before the actual paint colour is applied (WW2 german armour had a red/brown primer for example), so it would go paint > lighter tone of paint > primer coat > metal > corrosion
@Elminarion4 жыл бұрын
Great one! Thanks! Now I'll think about these nice, bright colour chips :)
@sixxgunner86113 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I was looking for a good tutorial and found amazing one:)
@Luna8324 жыл бұрын
Nigthsift miniatures has some great videos about chipping too! Especially on his german tanks
@jasonrhome7104 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Adding to the shout out for Nightshift.
@kyleconway44442 жыл бұрын
First time seeing a video from you. Great video, but the part that earned my like and subscribe was the unexpected rubbing of paints on face. That was hysterical, lol! Awesome (and helpful) video!!!
@trovarion2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@dutchflyfisher2 ай бұрын
Like your style of approach. So when I'm right. I did bought marines death company. They are black. So chipping color will be light grey or metallic? Can you give me advice? Greetings from The Netherlands.
@jherazob4 жыл бұрын
Saw the title and said "Wait, this is not Kujo..." :P This was just great advice! And at least the sponge part should be doable quickly for your 60 cannon-fodder troops, with the more careful manual application for the few vehicles in your force :)
@giacomoarosio45834 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always man! Can’t wait for the corrosion one ;)
@arnoldbrutyn2815 Жыл бұрын
I personally use a verry big dry brush and lightly touch the edges. That way i can remake the same look and build uit highlights too on other parts if i accidentally brush too far
@celticwinter3 жыл бұрын
Good video to mention PLASMO models, as some of the weathering and wear he applies really helps sell the illusion of actual combat systems - just that much more smaller. I wonder how he'd approach painting WH40k armor and machinery with no background in tabletop or lore? Would be interesting to see the result! Before I disappear into the warp: thank you for all your videos! They're really concise and helpful - I always have the feeling I leave with more than I came with.
@flipvdfluitketel8674 жыл бұрын
For the hairspray technique use a small amount on a flat varnish coat for smaller chips
@hansjensen16484 жыл бұрын
Great vid - i use the sponge technique to add contagion marks on my Death Guard units..I also use the sponge for scratch marks, works pretty well with some practice
@jaega42474 жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with the fact your painting skills are way better than doing the scrubbing technique. It's just that it doesn't look anything like the kind of chipping I see every day on painted metal in real life. Scrubbing comes closer, even if it's far from perfect, and I guess some would say that it's also way easier. Personally I'm still crap at either technique though, so I really shouldn't have any say on the matter. :D
@impguardwarhamer4 жыл бұрын
it's worth noting theres a difference between the kind of chipping you'd get on something in service and something rotting in a field for 50 years
@ZachC-1304 жыл бұрын
They both look great. Surfaces wear in different manners. In fact the model you "yikes" look more like your example at 2:15.
@NoProcrastinationMiniatures4 жыл бұрын
Great advice, especially re: the decals. It always looks really weird when the decals look prestine on a model that is weathered
@kevinmccusker15094 жыл бұрын
I just attempted chipping medium on some Genestealer Cults buggies. It seemed to take an age and I wasn't happy with the results, as it turned out a lot like the dreadnought in your video. I shall revert back to sponge and brush in future. Great video as always.
@chucklamb34964 жыл бұрын
Very nice effect. Thanks!
@JasonObsidian4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome, could you add a rust colour onto metal highlight or would that be to much and more importantly at 4:25 are all the imperfections on the pillar done with paint?, between the cracks and gritty dust/dirt marks to rusted chain.. just amazing.
@macoosh24 жыл бұрын
to the practice now ! nice explaination - thank you
@MrTourette6664 жыл бұрын
Jeder fangt als Erdapfel an :D...Super Video, wieder was gelernt! ;)
@Lord_Nielsen3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, currently working on Imperial Fists incredible paint theory as always!
@KPDigitalTravel4 жыл бұрын
I understand that there is a current wave of more 'realistic' painting and it looks great when I see folks of your talent level do it. Since I came to Games Workshop in the early 90s though, I paint in a more clean bright cartoonish way. The thought of dabbing that sponge onto one of my finished Blood Bowl shoulder pads makes me cringe. 😬
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
well, they are your minis, you should paint them the way you want ;)
@l33tpie4 жыл бұрын
I would be happy to just have my smurfs look as clean as that one. Gotta work on my edge highlighting but earthquake hands. I'm thinking maybe some form of light dry brush might be better than spending literal days trying to edge highlight. This chipping technique could help hide some of the dry brush overbrush maybe,
@thomaskamkar51974 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, exactly the advice I needed!
@outofthisworldmodelsandmin8984 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great tips!
@kaibe52413 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell they look good!
@mindfestvideo4 жыл бұрын
Udemy commercial in a Skillshare sponsored free tutorial vid... thats my kind of humor :D Thanks for the great tutorial!
@2DEKAY4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@karlosrolero4 жыл бұрын
Well, there are chipping fluids that are much easier to learn than hairspray. When I started painting gasland cars and WWII tanks, I tried Vallejo's Chipping Medium and it's quite more easy than learning hairspray, its just get it wet and chip with different tools. Of course, it wont look good at first, and there is a caveat; if you paint more than one color they can mix, you can only chip one color coat at a time, but if you paint vehicles (not Marines or the sort) its a good method.
@pystacheminiatures4 жыл бұрын
As always, very interesting, thanks for this content !
@fenfire38244 жыл бұрын
If you have a dark base Color, you can use a lighter greay as second chipping color. If you have your Ultramarines Dreadnought prepared with light Blue scratches, you can then add a mid tone grey as the edge color. I dont like if the edge is too dark. It won't look like something metallic anymore.
@rossvolkmann11614 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video, but I think it risks losing sight of just how stylized good 28mm miniature painting can be. Yes, these very fine pin scratches are certainly more realistic, and if everyone aspired to bring scale modelling conventions to Warhammer they would surely be the way forward. But I think the issue I take with this video is that... your White Scars dread actually looks amazing. Sure, if you sit down and really analyze how paint wear happens IRL maybe those big flakes of missing paint don't make that much sense. But visually they still scan as good weathering. I think this video shows some really good weathering tips, and definitely works as a A+ tutorial on how to execute on the realistic pin weathering you chose to demonstrate. I think what I take issue with is framing this as the *right* way to do chipping, with other simpler or stylized methods being apparently the *wrong* way.
@axp85984 жыл бұрын
The dragged sponge effect looks very good IMO. Very 'in scale'.
@trovarion4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sometimes you discover something interesting by trying to show how NOT to do it...haha
@axp85984 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion Well.. you're talented anyway.
@snapomusic4 жыл бұрын
"stop chiping like potato".. hahaha I always use some of you did it when I working with gunpla. but this is nice tips, thanks for sharing.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@andraslibal3 жыл бұрын
That ultramarine on the motorbike is very badass. Almost makes me want to buy and paint it. But I resist the urge of being sucked in to the Warhammer Universe. For now.
@solairelordran30324 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Love your channel!!
@eyepet20104 жыл бұрын
damn that leather looks so YUMMY
@vidi50862 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this awesome video ✌️✨
@Strider1812 жыл бұрын
Damn Chris skillshare should be chasing you to put up masterclass mini painting video's.
@tokoloshgolem4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you
@axp85984 жыл бұрын
Use a 'dark' but WARM color for the chipping effect on dark blue surfaces.
@HudsonAO8TQ14 жыл бұрын
Very useful and informative vid
@BeardFaceSuper4 жыл бұрын
0:44 How is this bad? It's a bit excessive damage, but looks good to me.
@SirHirnschaden4 жыл бұрын
random, no reality approach, he used a potatoe for the chipping effect duh xD
@rogaldorn2524 жыл бұрын
Nice vid as usual, thanks! What would be a good (realistic) way to chip black paint for say, black templars?
@mumhustler4 жыл бұрын
tbh i liked all the examples for different reasons, even the dark under color on a dark base color
@mrthomas28472 жыл бұрын
honestly the 0:44 looks really realistic since it looks just like some of my tools that has white color and got the same marks.. xD
@igelkott2554 жыл бұрын
This is really good advice but I had a random thought..... Why would we think that the coloring on advanced power armor, centuries ahead of current technology would weather like the paint on a 20th century automobile?
@flamethrower1944 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have to be, I always took it as of how bad the state of technology has regressed to, but there are many different possible ways of showing off the degradation of future tech.
@alexx86hater4 жыл бұрын
Two biggest mistakes with hairspray chipping are: 1) Trying to chip "proper" paint layer as if it was some "temporary" paint. For example it is ok to chip in a weird ways winter camo of of soviet tank of WW2 b/c that white "paint" was nothing more than just limewash lot of times applied either by the huge brush or just by "throwing" it right off the bucket (to reproduce even that you would use two layers of chipping). If you try to reproduce normal paint chipping being such aggressive doing hairspray at the best you are trying to represent something that spent few decades in the junkyard 2) Using the color you actually want to see for your "bottom" layer. This might work for some cases but lot of times your bottom layer needs to be adjusted for a better effect. For example all those winter camo T-34s are not painted in russian green as you would if you were doing "summer" versions. Those greens are way more brighter then they would even if you adjust the color brightness for the scale b/c otherwise that dark green would be too much contrast with the white so it would be perceived as black.
@artkemono4 жыл бұрын
I feel like what some folks in the comments miss about the difference between the two models in the thumbnail is that parts that are so badly weathered and damaged would be replaced or reinforced, rather than remaining fully exposed and rusting.
@njkf4 жыл бұрын
good job on the vid dude
@dand17894 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot and keep going the good content!
@PallaDrak Жыл бұрын
Would you suggest using the same colour as you use to edge highlight with scratches or different? (Looking at your blood raven)
@TrentRosenbaum4 жыл бұрын
Great video and something I am starting to explore. Can I ask about chipping metallics themselves? For example a silver armoured Space Marine. The colour can seem light and so I was use Rhinox hide? On the other hand is might feel dark and so maybe I would use a lighter grey? I wonder how best to think about it?