Stop! Do you have water by YOUR FEET? - A/C FIX!! Ford Superduty | Expedition | F-150 TSB 20-2107

[@HeliTech_AMT]

Here is the fix. Gain access to evaporator drain as he has shown above. Here is what I did different. Once the metal clip is removed, remove all excess plastic and make the drain tube smooth. I used a razor blade and 120/220 sand paper to rough-up the surface. Clean the evap drain tube and black firewall gasket with isopropyl alcohol. I then applied black Dowsil 739 plastic adhesive/sealant to the area that I just smoothed out on the drain tube. Slide the SMALL side of the 90 elbow until it stops on the tube/gasket. To finish it off, I apply the same sealant all around the mating elbow and gasket. Works perfectly, no leaks. This is on a 2019 F250 Lariat.

[@danglecier9462]

Thanks I'll be doing this. Hopefully truck starts after it dries out. 2019 F350 Lariat.

[@moorebuildersinc113]

Thanks for this video, saved me a lot of time looking for leak I just discovered yesterday when cleaning my floor Matt’s, wet and moldy underneath. 2019 F350.

[@kelvintparker8875]

This helped me save a lot of money. I had that problem. I thought my heater core was going bad. Watching your video I knew what it was. Thank you so much for doing that video.

[@westoneckert]

This happened to my friend's truck. Molded the entire truck. Actually, a mold company later tested the interior mold and found it to be pretty toxic. Great job Ford!

[@buckhorncortez]

Ford didn't charge for the mold, he got that for free...what's your beef?

[@mark_Hershey]

I just literally had this happen and have a thread about it on ford-truck. The only thing I would add is if you notice on the pipe nipple there are a couple of shark fins, not sure why, but if your dont push the elbow on past those it will make it worse because the water will drip past the elbow that is raised by them. I’m debating wether to Dremel them off.

[@claytonl4628]

Mine leaked here and from the door vapor barriers! This elbow fix is so easy, I did mine in the parking lot. For $3 everyone should add this.

[@eduardocampos2214]

I saw this problem on my 2011, now I know how to fix it, thanks to you Arod!

[@jarrettmcgowan3663]

Did the elbow fit yours? Doing an 11 expedition tomorrow for the same issue and was hoping for a better fix

[@eduardocampos2214]

@@jarrettmcgowan3663 Yes it did, no more leak inside the cab.

[@shaneoakley8757]

Took your advice and got my truck in front of another tech. Found a reputable one at University Ford in Durham NC. He ran some quick tests and confirmed contamination in the DEF system. Full replacement.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Nice bud!

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

My 2018 expedition did it, had the dealer fix it because the interior got screwed. They replaced the whole carpet and insulation on the passenger side thankfully. This was before the tsb so they did the same repair but with generic parts. My 20 tremor did it aswell but I caught it super early and vacuumed up the water. I fixed it with an autoparts store pcv 90°, didn't remove the fender liner or anything. Still works like a champ over a year later.

[@OutdoorsEngineer]

A relative of mine has a 2019 F250 6.7 and he mentioned to me last weekend about water under his passenger floor mat after running the AC. I sent him this vid today and he is going to go getting this done. Thanks!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Awesome!!!

[@devlinmurray5853]

Discovered mold in my 2018 the other day. Did some research and found this after I noticed where the moisture came from. Thanks for the video.

[@jimmyaber5920]

I have been car fixing since my first summer job at 14 in 1972. A/C drain leaks, not plugged up, have been around periodically since then. I think the old guys that learned from the mistakes and fixed them retire and the new engineers have to screw it up and learn again. Open cell foam gaskets get changed to molded closed cell foam. Drains that get suction on high fan get extension tubes with a restrictor to give the water weight to overcome the suction. Drains that engine fans or speed forced air blows water back into the drain get elbows (DING DING DING, we have a winner!). Evaporators that let water fly off and get outside the drain field get a thin foam sheet clipped to them, etc., etc. Then a new car gets designed and they decide those < $1 fixes can be done away with to save money and the water runs free once again.

[@PhilDoesItAll]

I’m buying that elbow and I’m going to lubricate it with marine grade goop sealant. No tape needed after a couple minutes.

[@michaelcotrone8065]

2019 F350 DRW. Just noticed wet under passenger mat. Keep up the great work...Ford should be kissing your feet...Your channel helps so much with Ford lack of quaiity...thanks

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yea I wish, they probably can't stand me😔

[@kevinaragon8011]

Watch this video and many more! They solved my problem fast! My passenger's floor was wet and I installed the part that Ford should have installed from the factory!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

💪💪💪

[@3374jj]

Well , I hope mine doesn't start leaking... Great info bud

[@okhotrodder]

I bought my '18 F150 Feb this yr('23). Started using the a/c two months ago and never noticed it. This past weekend I pulled the husky liners to scrub them down and found fungus growing under the liner with the carpet full of water. Looked under the dash and seen moisture around the drain tube area. I'm sure once I put the elbow on, it'll fix my issue.

[@boyerstudios]

I have a 2013 F250 and I’ve been having this problem for a couple of years. I had a company look at it and they couldn’t find what the cause was. Well, thanks to you now I know and it’s an easy fix. Thank you PowerStroke.

[@mustangjames1988]

Did you get it fixed? I had a shop do it and it still leaks.

[@gamerprestige7240]

Same been happening for years....finally got tired of it and decided to look up information and found this video

[@bigmike3250]

BEST CHANNEL EVER!!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We appreciate that

[@terrydtdi]

Awesome ARod, I’m going to pick that elbow up tomorrow. Nice simple little fix.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey u made it!!!!!!

[@terrydtdi]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Hell yeah brother. Thank you!!

[@dosvp]

Just bought a used 2019 F250 6.7l with the same issue. Will be following up with the Ford dealership to see if the recall is still available for this truck.

[@MrDraper38]

Amazing I've had Safelite replace my windshield three times now I realize it's the drain. Think I'm going to try and unclog it I'm going to try and unclog it myself with the end of a clothes hanger and see if that buys me some time until my appointment

[@nealcoppola9963]

Boy this is a flashback concern. 1st Gen Gator and Exped had this problem as well as O2 Codes on Bank 1. Evap would drain on O2 causing Thermo Cycling setting code. On some water entered cabin. I thought after 22 years they would have this under control. ( Never Fixed front windshield water leaks on same Generation ) -- Lower Corner of Windshield leaked on Fuse Box and GEM.

[@EricMan-ue4ip]

Found this video as I was looking for a 2007 F-150 video covering the exact same issue. The hose for the 2007 is in a different place but the drain system is the same creating the same problem. My 2007 hose is Sealed with a foam like seal around the hose. Years caused deterioration of foam seal allowing the water to return under the pipe as you described. I am on the way to get the pvc pipe and will update, but it was returning to the inside of vehicle as we noticed condensation building up on the plastic inside the truck and we found the issue after further inspection.

[@TheLeach2112]

I have had it happen to my f250 king ranch. Thanks for the information.

[@BlakeReed18]

Ok so the dealership in Clarksville TN did this, still leaked bad. Then the dealership in Tallahassee Florida did it, still leakes. When I pulled it off they had the long side on the fitting, not the short side. I flipped it around the way it should be that you said with the short side on the fitting, added an o-ring clamp, and sprayed flex seal all around it. Waiting for it to dry to see the results...

[@matthewfort3740]

Cool so far my the water drains to the outside . Good info if I need it.

[@chriszawacki4092]

My 2019 F150 is doing it. I'll have to go get the part and do it.

[@NicholasHawkins-i9f]

I have a 2020 f250 that is doing this...gonna try the elbow fix

[@vince5506]

Just checked mine. All dry 👍🏼. Thx!

[@smclean5145]

Definitely have it. Thanks for the great vid

[@jerryknorr679]

Good tip mr ARod I'll have to check this out thanks ARod

[@mattsproull181]

My neighbor just sent the whole fleet of trucks in with this issue. I think they sent some to you. XXX Fire Protection company.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Interesting

[@dustinbrown1982]

I had a significant amount of water on my 2019 F-250 passenger floorboard. I dried it out for about 16 hours with fans

[@billypoovey7646]

I noticed the tab that the metal collar was on. If you don't take that tab off, wouldn't the water still be able to leak back towards the firewall? I have seen in another video where they took the tabs off and filed them smooth to prevent any gap between the hose and the pipe coming thru the firewall.

[@nolandenton1224]

Happening on my 2020 F250 Lariat that was manufactured within the dates on the TSB.

[@marcbo2730]

Silicone caulk around the existing hose

[@enoch6977]

How often is the drain tube clogged up where that would be a simple fix without needing the elbow? And if the elbow is put on a clogged tube you're still going to be leaking water on your carpet, right?

[@cn7097]

Let’s get a class action going for the mold damage?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Good luck with thay karen

[@Dobey7590]

Never had this issue only started after they had to pull my dash 2017 f250. Clear water sloshing down the passenger side channel

[@JuanGarcia-gt6ef]

Dobey7590 do you happen to have the part number, if you have it .can you share it with me. Thanks

[@kennethmatthews6088]

I had water in my F250, destroying two modules. Tow bill and dealer had the truck for two weeks.

[@MJ-ss2kj]

I have a 2019 F450 with this same issue. Is it going to be fixed under a warranty?

[@HK-21]

My 2015 F-350 dripped a little the other day. I have weather mats so no harm. Definitely going to modify mine. After removing the wheel well liner, I noticed my drain tube looks like it has a slight upward pitch. Should be pitching down ever so slightly. I will cut the plastic fins off on the end of the tube, and use a light coat of RTV silicone around the tube before I install the 90 fitting. That should help mitigate inner coupling water migration. Ford and their fuck it…just duck it…tape idea, unbelievable.

[@Papapantydropa]

Mine has an upward pitch too and was wondering if it was supposed to be like that

[@HK-21]

@@Papapantydropa You wouldn’t think so, however after the modification everything flows properly. I ended up using a razor blade to cut the plastic fins off, on the outside of the drain tube. I also used a light coat of clear RTV silicone on the outside diameter of the drain tube. That ford 90 coupler fits really tight, I ended up using a heat gun to assist with installing the fitting after applying the light coat of RTV on the outside of the drain tube. Remember to go light, you just want to seal the inside of that coupling to the outside of the drain tube. Too much, and you will essentially create a damn or barrier internally, which will prevent proper flow.

[@HK-21]

@@Papapantydropa What’s happening with that shituation is the drain water is following the drain tube along the bottom, and re-entering the cab through the not so water tight seal at the firewall. Once you install that 90 you’ll be golden.

[@Papapantydropa]

@@HK-21 I appreciate the info man. It's been a nightmare for me cause originally I thought my issue was a windshield leak but it's not. I been dealing with my trucks flashers coming on randomly when it's parked and off. They flash so much I would get in my truck the next day and it would be dead. Come to find out the water was getting my BCM wet which is causing it to spaz out like that. 2019 F150 with 24k miles

[@HK-21]

@@Papapantydropa At least you’ve identified the problem, sometimes that’s the hardest part. I had a 2001 F-350 that had an issue with water migrating through voids in the front windshield due to age, and deterioration of the pinch weld where the sealant was applied to create a water tight seal. The water would drip down the drivers side A pillar right on top of the GEM module, and power distribution box, creating a similar shituation. I would turn the truck off, and sometime later it would power up accessories without the key in the ignition causing a low battery no start condition. I found a replacement, and wrapped plastic over the top to protect it. With the age of the truck and the condition of that pinch weld, I could not find a glass company that would guarantee a water tight seal. I know it’s a pain but you can always disconnect the negative battery terminal once parked until you get the issue resolved, either way that hoods getting popped, I found it way more convenient to disconnect a terminal vs jumping the truck. Best of luck to you, and at the end of the day you got a story to tell. Who knows, you might be able to help someone else out who’s experiencing the same issue.

[@ephraemdryer2088]

Why not shave off that little tab sticking down before shoving the rubber elbow on? Seems like it would still leak and not solve anything.

[@jarrettmcgowan3663]

Does anyone know if this part number will work on a 2011 expedition? Commonly has the same issue, but no TSB. Pulling the dash to replace the foam pad and evaporator as well while in there, but was hoping for a better fix (like this) so it doesnt happen again in another few years..

[@tommygun19788]

Got an F150, can this be done still leaving the tire on? Doesn't seem to be much room in there to work...

[@superdutyf450]

BIG DADDY A-ROD!! brother could that drain on my 2021 450 be the root cause of my apim and hvac control wiggin out? the damn thing turn on at startup then cycles on/off on/off like 50 times give or take then will stay in and work.....well in south georgia north fla that just ain't gonna cut it!! I'm dying plz help a fat sweaty PSD brotha. thx man

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I'm intrigued how bout u email me with EXACTZ details I have a hankerin'

[@superdutyf450]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok I will after dinner I will also attach the codes on modules I think are affected that way your brain can do its magic where can I find your email in the biography section of you tube?

[@bigmaccam9865]

Maybe i missed something.. is this a possible solution for an 03?

[@WayneBurgess-iq8fw]

My 2021 F150 XLT is experiencing this same problem. I have watched the condensation go everywhere but straight down. This has soaked my passenger side and probably ruined my BCM on the side passenger wall.

[@larryhunter1456]

Did you find the part anywhere? I can't seem to find anyone that has this part

[@manoreys693]

My 2014 expedition starts leaking water every time I pass it through the auto car wash idk if it may be related to this but it's annoying since waters goes thru exactly the blower motor fan underneath dash in passenger seat

[@stevemcphail9041]

Hey Ford! Water doesn’t run UPHILL!!! My condensation outlet was pointed UPWARD!!! I wonder which one of you engineers paid out your pocket or get a student loan?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Every phucking one of em

[@Thelegendking-yj4bm]

Will dealerships change carpet if mine has mold?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Sure

[@rlongoria18]

What year models for the f250s would this effect??

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Alumiduty

[@mcool4587]

OMG I had to laugh at this TSB fix. I see the engineers at Ford were burning the midnight oil for that fix! The foil tape wrap cracked me up. Foil tape on a non-metal, unsmooth application? Thats a tail light warranty, that is when we see your tail lights leave our lot thats when the warranty ends.

[@medic2four]

Will Ford warranty it as preventative if it hasn't started leaking yet?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No sir, unfortunately thats not how it Ford warranty is...

[@kennethmatthews6088]

I had water smoke 2 modules is passenger side kick panel. Ford charged me $1,700 and change to repair.

[@richardcayard7812]

I have a 2020 f-150. Just out of warranty because I was dragging my feet on this. I have extended warranty I'm gonna have to argue with the dealership. Gonna do it myself and drain it all the way down to the bottom. Really disappointed in ford, there is a bulletin on this and no recall. This truck also has the 5.0 that burns oil. Looking to join the class action suit. I think I may after all these years, consider buying something other than ford. I own an awesome Shelby but Ford you need new leadership!

[@justmemrb]

Help! 2019 Expedition. Every time it rains, or the car gets washed, there is water sloshing around behind the dash, in the fire wall, and water ends up in the blower fan. Thank you in advance.

[@theguyofalltrades]

Getting this on my 2018 F150 when it rains

[@marchearn9058]

Great video! What a TERRIBLE engineering job by Ford. I've never seen such an obvious flaw in the design of the drain tube outlet. My 2020 F-150 just literally ruined my right floorboard insulation and made a mess of the interior. Luckily my wife was on the passenger side and the floormat was a little sideways. When she exited she felt the water coming up through the carpet. Ford has known about this design defect for a long time and if you are out of warranty, it's your dime. The part cost me about $20 online.

[@yasiralhosni8639]

Hi , it’s suitable for my F150 raptor 2018 ?,its leak badly in passenger side?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Probably this same problem

[@danglecier9462]

I think I'll do a preventive fix but I'll use Lexel instead of tape.

[@danglecier9462]

Guess what I never got to and now paying for it. Hopefully truck will start when it dries out

[@TGOESFISHING]

Just took mine to the dealership they said $250 I ordered the part for $7 off Amazon. Just finished the repair

[@stevemcphail9041]

Thank you !!!!

[@caliracing4158]

What causes it to leak?

[@mrbrooks9969]

jan. 2020 f150 build, yep, its going to need it . crap

[@jojonorris8047]

Hopefully someone sued Ford over this. What a nightmare, luckily I noticed mine early. The dealer said the port was clogged, yea right.

[@michaelwatson1326]

I have a 2021 F250 When using AC Top of the dashboard is covered in Condensation dripping into my glove Box And Condensation At The Center AC outlets Have you heard of this I have picturesI I'm worried this will short out my radio It's not a little it's a lot

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I have not

[@michaelwatson1326]

I will let you know what's going on I'm taking it to the dealer under warranty

[@talynbilbrey9422]

I’ve got a 2016 f250 that is having the issue with water in the floor. Drain tube is not stopped up. Wondering if this would solve my issue. Thanks

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Not sure, look at the TSB its only for newer trucks....

[@talynbilbrey9422]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Right I have seen it prior to seeing video but my truck has this exact problem I think I’ll try it and see for the heck of it. Thanks

[@mattrobinson3744]

@@talynbilbrey9422 hey Talyn did the elbow fix the problem with your truck?

[@talynbilbrey9422]

@@mattrobinson3744 nope still continues to leak in the floor. I have takin the time to dig in to it.

[@mattrobinson3744]

@@talynbilbrey9422 Thanks for the response. I just noticed the problem with my truck today, Shame it didn't work...

[@bransonsurvivor765]

Happening on my 2008 f350

[@firestorm521]

I bought the 90 degree tube from Ford, installed it my self(to save 200$),but it still leaks. Any thoughts?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

R u sure its from there

[@firestorm521]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I'm pretty sure, but also why I'm asking...

[@firestorm521]

I just took the rubber hose off, cut the little plastic fins in the pipe and reinstalled with lexel. We'll see....

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

What year is it

[@firestorm521]

2020

[@TheSalohcinekalb]

I’m having this issue on a 2023 F150, so apparently Ford didn’t fix it after they discovered it on the 2018-2020 models…

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I don't know if it's the same problem

[@Graplernapler]

Happened to my 2019. Soaking wet and moldy by the time I found it. Asked three separate dealers about the issue, specifically to look for a TSB on water leaks… all three told me no such thing. Why does it always take me scouring the internet to find out what’s wrong with fords aweful vehicles. Never buying a ford again, many many issues with this and our expedition. And the dealers are terrible.

[@imranabbasi7871]

👍

[@jacobguitreau6454]

I do in mine

[@Davee94]

What about 250s?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

They alllll the same guy....

[@jackbeane9708]

Idea . Silicone around that whole seal.

[@gafarms8614]

My floor is soaked.

[@5400bowen]

That was silly, absurd even. The tape is now doing virtually nothing. The tape needs to be behind the insulation, on the metal. You should have cut the tape to go around the drain nipple. And did you say you couldn't;t get it around the elbow? Do you mean the new elbow? Why not just take the elbow back off, apply the tape, then put the elbow back on? You could even just lay the tape on over the hole without the nipple on and cut around the drain tube (carefully!) with a utility knife, nice and clean, and then force it back with the nipple upon reinstallation.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

THAT WAS NOT IN THE INSTRUCTIONS!