Stop feedback/ Noise/ Humming sound using Noise Suppressor in pedal Chain and amp, NS2 Using Demo.

Hello Guitar Player, This is a pedal chain order diagram presentation of how to use a noise suppressor pedal to reduce the noise or feedback coming from all gain pedals. I thought the diagram presentation would help the guitar players to figure out the proper use of the Noise suppressor pedal using the send and return effect loop.
Note: Sorry for the low volume. PLEASE USE YOUR FULL VOL in your system or Possibly use headphones.
Table of content:
0:04 Option 1: Using Noise Suppressor when not using high gain pedal
2:53 Option 2: Using Noise Suppressor with high gain pedal without using the amp gain
5:31 Option 3: Using Noise Suppressor along with high gain pedal and the amp gain
8:06 Option 4: Using Noise Suppressor only with the amp gain.
Additionally, I have missed explaining the alternative of option 1 if you have "Send and Return" on Amp and no "Send and Return" on your noise suppressor. Please check the link below for the alternative way of option 1:
drive.google.com/file/d/1JrXy...

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello Folk, Some how i was able to boost volume in the same video. Please check below link for the same video with boosted volume kzbin.info/www/bejne/epzQgaKuo8tnm9E

[@fliesandpigs]

FINALLY! A video that explains accurately the signal flow of the noise suppressor, I was going insane trying to figure it out myself and the other videos I watched never explained it fully, also your graphs helped very much, i can't thank you enough, now I can buy the NS knowing what I'm doing, instantly subscribed, thank you!

[@billhinsperger8120]

Right? Best one yet

[@SharpEdgeStandardOfficial]

This video is the standard for how to use a noise suppressor! Excellent job and thank you

[@OleZone]

this is without a doubt the best video on youtube for signal chain. Thank you so much my dude

[@janetlayton8865]

Thanks ive looked at at least 10 different videos and this was the first that was clear. Ill be subscribing and checking out your other video's.

[@luisq4342]

Finally .... a complete and very clear explanation on the noise suppression issue!! I will try set ups... thanks!!

[@tonecraft5386]

Glad it helped!

[@glennt5749]

Thanks man. I use the option 3 and your explanation was very helpful, because I understand nothing about where to plug all these cables. Manuals and other videos doesn't help me, but this video is perfect

[@tonecraft5386]

Glad it helped!

[@maybeyoureright4334]

Option 3 had me scratching my head for a good couple of minutes. Good video.

[@phil_rennie_photography]

I tried option 2, after just putting everything through the gate. I have a TC Electronics Sentry noise gate and notice an instant improvement in my tone and the amount of gain needed! Thanks mate! :)

[@rexsolomon6325]

Thank you for this! It was very helpful to understand the flow of the signal inside the Noise Suppressor. Basically it is an "X" flow.

[@xivivix7195]

Bro def used noise suppression on his voice.

[@MalakaiDerg]

HAHA my first thought

[@koalasoup332]

best explanation of noise gate placement EVER!

[@vmor80]

Thank you so much for making this video!! It helped me out so much!

[@dipendrabs]

Great video! Simplified version! Thanks for the posting it!

[@charlesupchurch5985]

This actually perfect for my set up the 3rd one is absolutely perfect man Thank you!!!!

[@Tone-Oz]

wonderful diagrams and well explained. the best in fact. thank you mate

[@tonecraft5386]

Thank you for checking the video. I hope it does help many guitarists.

[@johnsenior2566]

Indeed! Thanks a lot man, you cleared up/cleaned up a lot for me!!

[@john_torres2021]

Thanks a lot for your great explanation, I recently bought a noise suppressor pedal but I didn't know how to wired it on my pedalboard, I'm definitely going to use 2nd option and I´m going to suscribe your channel because I´ve seen many interesting videos here, best regards from Lima Peru

[@zandig666]

Thanks bud i had mine hooked up once and it worked and wasnt able to recreate it till i saw this video thanks again 🙏🙏🙏🙏 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻

[@cortviva69]

Very helpful overwiew on using a gate!!! Thx a lot!!!

[@orangutangaming1455]

It’s always the people with a heavy accent I almost can’t understand that help me the most this guy was speaking a language I didn’t know once and it helped me alot

[@Tom-en3ms]

Really helpful explanations, thank you!

[@tonecraft5386]

Thanks for checking out my video

[@marksanders1962]

Excellent info and extremely useful, great video. A+! cheers...

[@tonecraft5386]

Thank you, Mark, for your great support.

[@juliusseizure324]

Holy Shit fucking THANK YOU this makes it so much more simple to figure out!!!! I subscribed to your channel because of how great this is. THANK YOU!!!!

[@ktol6258]

Thank you for the whole 'know how'

[@eddieleija]

Nice diagrams

[@panchola1000]

Excellent video! Thanks a lot!

[@robhall8378]

Thanks for doing this video!!! You have truly mastered the different configurations. I chose option #2. Although my Dr. Z MAZ 18 has the effects loop with the send and return, option #2 sounds better and has much less noise. Also., I can still use my MAZ Boost Pedal without feedback and noise. Not much difference between #2 and #3, but it option #2 sounds better with the boost. Just my 2 cents...Again, THANKS for doing this video, you really did a huge favor for many, many people. We owe you one my friend!!! Cheers, bob

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello Rob, thanks for talking time to watch my video. This is something I enjoy to do. I am always happy to work on Guitar, pedal and amp related stuff.

[@MrCarameloso]

Excelent Video. Thanks Mr. Tone :D

[@tonecraft5386]

I really appreciate for your comments and taking time to watch my video

[@Wolf-51.50]

Thanks for this, man. I just set my pedalboard using the 3rd configuration, and it works perfectly. I just changed the phaser position before the NS, 'cause i don't like how it sounds with the phase shifter going into "return" of the amp with the amp distortion, so i put it in front of the NS to have it in front of the amp, so i can have that Van Halen phase 90 sound, you know... But other than that, it's awesome. Thanks.

[@josedmartinez7063]

Best explanation ever

[@ritiksharma9749]

Amazing video brotha

[@tonecraft5386]

Thanks for liking it.

[@nickb.237]

So glad you showed us all the “sexsuns” in each different method. Thanks!

[@josec9413]

Just what I needed! Thanks !

[@tonecraft5386]

Thank you Jose for checking out my presentation.

[@allboutthemojo]

@@tonecraft5386 excellent video. Looked for option 3 set up in dozens of videos. All were super confusing except one from Elliott guitar Chanel and yours

[@tonecraft5386]

@@allboutthemojo Thank you for your compliment and for taking the time for watching my video. I hope it will help many others. Let me know if you would like any other video. Comments are very appreciated. And definitely do subscribe to my channel for more videos.

[@allboutthemojo]

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[@blessingsara11]

Amazing vid & very graphic. I tried the 3rd config but noticed my mxr noise gate sucked a lot of tone & my flanger/chorus sounded way to loud... But this brought some light my way!!! will try something custom with these steps

[@bradsims7089]

Really helpful. Thanks!

[@tonecraft5386]

You are very welcome @Brad Sims

[@JtheRelentless]

Great video. Thank you.

[@barryculiao]

thank you so much, this really helped me!

[@dantecoates]

So helpful bro! THANK YOU :)))

[@WillitoTube]

Thanks bro! I'm on the 3rd option.

[@carloayo816]

great vid! thanks :)

[@ascendtranscend3812]

thank you! mind blowing!

[@tonecraft5386]

I appreciate it.

[@guytori9330]

Very helpful, thank you

[@tonecraft5386]

You're welcome! Thanks for checking my video

[@kicikocani1]

briliant video thanks a lot ❤🎉 all out explain like it should

[@pierpaolozanfagnin4586]

Thank you very much!!!

[@kingrjlegaspi1137]

Thanks and you can also Try to Put the Compressor on the Clean Channel substitute to your Booster pedal then put your Booster Pedal at the last Signal of your Ditry Channel then the Volume Pedal before the Noise Suppressor then down to your Modulation Pedals. In that Way you can Boost your Lead Tone when the Solo part comes. 😎

[@michaelmattson3515]

It is confusing when the pedal is labeled in/out send/return. But your diagram shows different connections & it works great.I have this pedal & the Sentury noise gate. I’m looking at the Cock Blocker, the reviews are good & I like how it’s a double gate & analog circuitry. The Sentury does have a digital sound to it now that I have used it for awhile I can hear it.

[@michaelcraig9449]

Rooster is better than Cock blocker

[@jackjones2399]

Any ideas on how to do this with a stereo rig and where to put a micro pitch shift utilising both outputs? All the tone comes from the amp and time effects are in the loop, currently using option one. Basically looking to split the pitched signal into stereo whilst keeping the reduced noise

[@christopheringco4445]

Hi, how to connect noise suppressor when you have a pre amp pedal and you will use this as your main amp. Pre amp pedal will be connected to return of the available amplifier. Thank you

[@AncientSinsOfficial]

So what if you’re setup is like option 3 but you’re not using any of those pedals (delay, phaser, etc)? My pedal chain is tuner, wah, mini tubescreamer, eq, noise suppressor…and I still get a high pitch feedback when the amp is above a 3 for volume.

[@drgabrielamaral]

Excelente. Ajudou demais

[@tonecraft5386]

Muito obrigado por assistir meu vídeo, deixe-me saber se você tem alguma dúvida relacionada a guitarra e pedais. Eu amo e gosto de explorar e ajudar as pessoas nisso. E, definitivamente, inscreva-se no meu canal para mais vídeos futuros.

[@randy_magnum991]

Wouldn't you want your gate/suppressor AFTER you distortion pedals so you can control them with the gate? I'm referring to the 4 cable method when you want to use the amp distortion and FX loop.

[@pierredesrochers7436]

Hello, I know your video is 3 years old however wanted to mention that I have been struggling like crazy to get this right in terms of setting my pedals and went through soooo many videos without success until I got to yours! Big thank you! I am using a Vangoa pedal board, any advice on the set up of in and out from the board?

[@zelwxsch2484]

I am using a Prs mc carty 594 , which goes into a TC electronic forcefield compressor to the NS-2 dialed to a Walrus audio Slotva directly to my UAD volt 2 ( gain to 9-10 o clock ) to my macbook pro 19. I am using the caline 206 isolated as for my pedal power supply. Despite using all these things i am still getting some interference and bit of mid to high end humming (minimal around -60db of constant noise floor peaking around -50 /-40db but audible). The buzz completely stops whenever I touch my cable sleeve , strings , pickups and it gets somewhat low but still audible whenever I move to a certain position However ,that’s impractical for me to stay in that position every time I play cause it starts buzzing again with every inch I move. I am opting for a noiseless clean tone but this is disturbing me. Please help!!

[@zoltanparajdi245]

Thank you !!! ❤

[@gandaraoke]

Thank You 👍👍

[@XxStonedImmaculatexX]

This is the best video explanation for the NS2, or any other pedal that has built in effects loop! One question I keep wondering to myself is, how does the effects loop on my EHX Silencer compare to my Peavey VK100’s effects loop? I’ve tried both and hear no difference at all so I continue to use the Silencer’s built in effects loop especially since I use all stomp boxes and in the clean channel.

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi J T, Thanks for your question and for taking the time to watch the video. The "Send and Return" loop in your EHX Silencer is definitely different from your Peavey VK100's. The purpose of EHX Silencer's "Send and Return" is to detect noise coming from your signal after it's been affected (the sound from the dirt pedal in this case as explained in the video). The input of EHX detects more of the raw sound noise (signal before the affected sound) and cancels noise from the unaffected sound. So when you connected the dirt pedal with send and return loop. It will cancel noise coming from the sound before and after the sound is being affected and this is why send and return works better and more effective. On the other hand, any "Send and Return" in any amp, in your case Peavey VK 100's, just bypasses the power amp section of your amp. In this way, you can connect anything in between the preamp and power amp of your amp section. Please check my other video on the explanation to understand the preamp and power amp section.

[@stephaneaudet]

Hi , you connect your chorus pedal after NS-2 but me i prefer to connect NS-2 in the loop alone.Plug my guitar into overdrive and after chorus pedal and finilly into the amplifier.

[@theflyhunters207]

Great video, guy! Thanks 😊

[@tonecraft5386]

Thank you @The Mustage Girl Band.

[@serhiiderkach8126]

@@tonecraft5386 Thank you so much for this video. This is the best on FX/Suppressor combination video on KZbin. Can you tell me, where should I put a loop pedal ? Thank you again.

[@tonecraft5386]

​@@serhiiderkach8126, What kind of loop pedal are you using? Do you mean looper switches like Hotone Kommander or overdubbing loop pedal like Ditto X2?

[@serhiiderkach8126]

@@tonecraft5386 thank you for your reply, I just tried the option 3 (even without loop) and unfortunately it's not working :( I did exactly shown in your video. I very desperate. Is there any way you could help me ?

[@tonecraft5386]

Sure, what part of the globe are you in? I definitely would love to guide you. I am in eastern US time. I normally have time during weekends. Lets find a way to get connected and provide you a possible guidance. Just make sure that you are connecting the cable in correct place, like send have to be in send and return has to be in return.

[@titikputihband]

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[@andytrendy4841]

Hi what if I use compressor with a clean sound? Should I put it before ns2 input?

[@artcomlotus3091]

Good instruction

[@jdb2722]

Cool things to try. I run my guitar to jhs black buffer, wah, fuzz, overdrive, suppressor, looper then connect to amp. Then I have modulation, to time on the effects loop.

[@tonecraft5386]

@JDB, your way is absolutely perfect. Perhaps, I could have mentioned this way in option 1 in the video.

[@jdb2722]

@@tonecraft5386 I’m always messing with stuff. I have the mxr smart gate which is the best pedal I’ve ever bought hands down. (I think any noise suppressor would be my favorite, it’s simply the one I bought) Unfortunately it doesn’t have the extra inputs and outputs to run things like how you have them in the video. Very cool setups you made.

[@tonecraft5386]

@@jdb2722 Thank you so much for your comment. If you do not have extra send and return in your noise gate then you cannot do anything else besides how have been doing. Your way will be the best option as I have explained in the Option 1 method in my video. I always suggest buying a noise gate/suppressor that has send and return FX to use it effectively.

[@castelgandfolfo5820]

HELP Ive got a problem. Im using Marshall jvm 410. In effects loop im using digitech drop, phaser, booster and chorus. When i use this x method and turn the fx button on, my signal drops to about 10% that i can barely hear it. What might be wrong? I use gain only from the amp.

[@tonecraft5386]

Is your threshold switch set very high. This switch does cancel the noise but also lower the guitar output sound. so set only up to where you need to cancel the hum noise. As low as possible and use Noise suppressor only when you needed.

[@kaansurer]

Hello boss pw10 - tech 21 sansamp gt2 - mooer noise killer - mooer ac1 - mxr eq six band - ditto looper - DigiTech Trio Band Creator - nux cerberus - mxr m132 super comp I wrote about the guitar pedals I have. What kind of order do you think I should do? My amplifier has a send/return input. I would be glad if you help me. Your video is great. Sorry for my English :)

[@dank3463]

Thank you

[@tonecraft5386]

very Welcome Dan.

[@heversuarez8733]

hi,, in what position would I put my equalizer pedal

[@HernanTango]

Hello my name is Hernan. Thank you for you explanation of N/S, I’m not expires Amps a friend of my give me a peavey classic 2X12 and is old. I don see a send or return jacks. In that case I need to use the first option in you video or can use pre amp us a send and return on the normal jacks? Thank you for you time. Saludos Hernan

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello Hernan, Thank you so much for watching my video and for a question. Can you tell me what is the model of your Peavey classic 2X12 amp? I can check online what kind of input/send/return does that amp has and I can suggest exactly which option you can follow. Also its better if you can tell me what are the pedals you are using. Thanks

[@michaelmattson3515]

Question...... what about power supplies & daisy chains ? Can you daisy chain from the tuner 9 volt output to the EP Wah Pitch Compressor ? Then another power supply to the NS and the 9 volt output daisy chained the Modulation & Time section. Or a separate isolated power supply for each device? Just thinking. Thanks

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi Michael, Thanks for the question. In general, when you are using many pedals, I recommend using a separate isolated power supply as every pedal will be receiving individual power and will not interrupt the performance. Daisy chain wiring may not be a good option when you are using many pedals. However, in my experience, using daisy chain wire is fine with 6 -7 pedals depending upon the power consumption of every pedal, one more thing to make sure that you are using a power adaptor that has an output of 9v with high mA. In my experience, more mA, better the performance. For example, check the below link for Truetone 1SPOT 9V power adaptor. This adaptor is 9V and has 1700 mA which will perform excellently even with daisy chain wire. www.guitarcenter.com/Truetone/1-SPOT-Space-Saving-9V-DC-Adapter-1274115035973.gc?rNtt=9v%20power%20adapters&index=2

[@anthonyderosa7730]

Don't waste your time on daisy chains for larger pedal boards. The noise is rediculous the ns2 can't even handle it

[@tonecraft5386]

Very True thought.

[@george421]

Firstly I wanna say very great video helped me a lot! But I have a question. What if I have an octavefuzz like mxr sub machine? Will it work properly putting it in the gain section ? Because the solo octaver/pitch shift goes to the clean sound section but this is a fuzzoctave! Thank you

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello George, First thanks for checking my video and for your question. For the pedal like mxr sub machine, as it is actually a fuzz pedal, it definitely should go in the gain section, the octave parameter is associated with Fuzz which does produce higher or lower octave sound on top of Fuzz sound.

[@marilich]

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[@tonecraft5386]

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[@adamisrael]

If i do the second idea and use the send and receive for the high gain pedals, if I wanted to play without the noise suppressor and I turned it off would the signal still pass through or would I need it on all the time if I wanted to combine high gain and modulation effects?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi Adam. Yes, the signal does pass through even if you not using Noise Suppressor but might generate humming/noise/feedback if the gain level is high in any dirt pedal.

[@ralfseldenslach9279]

Hey, Perfect, i use option 4. My only question is, where should i put the volume pedal. I don't want to effect a peddal sound but just the volume. Is it at the end of the return (cable3)?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello Ralf, Volumn pedal can go anywhere. It work anywhere in the chain. I suggest put anywhere in your pedal board where you can utilize your space. Most of the guitar play says it should go at the beginning of the pedal board. But as per my understanding, you can place it anywhere. I personally have put volumne pedal before delay, so that i can get the delay sound after i turn off the volumn pedal like for generating swelling sound. Other than that, you can place any where.

[@ralfseldenslach9279]

Hey, thx for this excelent information. When i use option 4 is it possible to change my channels with my midi controler in this setup?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi Ralf, First Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to watch my video. I personally never have used a midi controller. I am primarily a music lover and Guitar player, So I can help and discuss only with the thing related to guitar and pedals related to guitar. Again, I am so sorry that I am not able to answer your question.

[@lehmusic2675]

Sometimes I run noise gate through effects loop .. get ride of amp noise too

[@tonecraft5386]

Yes, You are doing right. This is an alternative way of doing for my option 1 set up in the video if you do have (send and return) in the amp, and do not have send and return in the Noise gate pedal.

[@shanefulkersin6695]

I have a very high gain amp 5150 III and only a few pedals, TU-3 NS2 Flanger Delay and RC -1 looper, how should I route mine?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi Shane, Thank you for your great question. Anytime you are using a Loop pedal like RC1. I suggest placing it as the last pedal so that you can always record/play in the loop pedal with any kind of effect that you are using. With a reference to my option 3 as 5150 preamps do have the send and return, place your RC1 between time section and return of the amp. This way you can record and play any sound with entire pedals. In your case, you want to place RC1 after the Delay pedal and connect to the Return of the amp. I am going to make one video regarding the placement of a loop pedal like RC1 in the pedal chain with or without the FX loop and let you know. Please feel free for any discussion with Guitar and Pedal-related stuff. Thanks. Keep Rocking.

[@kimsonlau9140]

Thankyou , very Helpful. I use it option 4 , I use Joyo amp( clean channel ) I could like to ask some question? I put the volume pedal after the reverb , is it correct ? Because I wanna use volume pedal to control Master volume Guitar > tuner >NS > Higih OD > amp input NS > mod > time > Volume > AMP Return > NS > AMP sent

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi Kimson, You technically can put the Volume pedal anywhere. When you have at the end of the pedal chain, in your case, after reverb and connected to AMP return, it will control overall volume. There is some case, I know many guitar players including myself, place volume pedal before delay just to get the delay effect to feel even after turning off the volume pedal. This method is applicable when you play swell effect.

[@jf_valdivieso]

Is there any diagrams somewhere of how to set up the 4 cable method in a pedalboard context? Looking for how to keep this looking clean and avoid cable clutter.

[@tonecraft5386]

I do not have any explained diagram. But my pedal board, i have a capability to use option1 or option 2 to option 3 just changing the cable quickly. and its clean. Just place the clean pedal on one side. Dirt pedal in same area and modulation and time section in same side. and just do the wiring connection how you wanna do. It will look as normal and clean

[@jf_valdivieso]

@@tonecraft5386 Ok sounds good. Thanks!

[@bnoyz3]

Where would you put an overdrive pedal as a clean boost (no drive, full level) in the last option, using only amp gain?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello @bnoyz3, Thank you for your time watching my video and for the question. As just my personal suggestion, If you are using an overdrive pedal as a clean boost in the last option (option 4 the video), you can place an overdrive pedal between compressor and amp Input. But if you are using an actual boost pedal, I suggest using between amp send and noise suppressor return. With my personal experience, boost pedal response more effectively placing after the of gain. But if you are not using any gain, then you can place at the beginning of the pedal chain order.

[@JasonsGuitarJams]

Just wondering where would you put a Voodoo Lab Microvibe in the pedal chain...?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi Jasons Guitar Jams, Thank you so much for your question. As per my understanding, Microvibe / UniVibe technically belongs to the modulation category so it should stay after the gain pedal. But having that said, I have seen many guitarists use Univibe before the gain pedal and they point out that the Univibe tend to sound more creamy and warmer sound-wise. If you see Hendrix, he uses UniVibe after Fuze (gain pedal) but he does use amp gain as well to get his sound, so amp gain is working after Hendrix's Univibe sound. So my suggestion is depending upon which amp or what level of gain you are using in your amp, try your Microvibe placing before the gain pedal and after the gain pedal. Also, check how much gain are you using in the amp? Try below 3 ways and also try with low/mid/high gain level in the amp and see which way it sounds best for you. a. Guitar---> Univibe---> Gain Pedal --> AMP b. Guitar---> Gain Pedal--->Univibe---> AMP C Guitar---> Gain Pedal ----> AMP ---->Univibe (Place it in Send and return of amp)

[@JasonsGuitarJams]

@@tonecraft5386 Thank you so much for the reply and detailed information. It is much appreciated. Cheers!

[@geozodis8679]

Extremely helpful video!!! Thank you very much!! I buy the boss NS and I use OPTION 4. I notice that suck the tone if I have the volumes high (Marshall DSL40). Are you using that amp or you just show it in the diagram? If yes what’s your volume settings (channel and master volumes) Thank you 🙏🏻

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello, Thanks for checking my video. I have many guitar amps and DSL40 is one of them. The amp technically has nothing to do with the sound-sucking thing. I guess you have Threshold level is high in your NS2. Set Threshold level to where it does cancel the noise. I put mine around 9 or 10 o clock level and It does sound perfect without sucking any sound. Remember, the more you increase the Threshold level, it sucks sound.

[@geozodis8679]

@@tonecraft5386 Thank you very much. You re very helpful!!!!

[@tonecraft5386]

@@geozodis8679 you are very welcome. please let me know if you need any help regarding guitar, pedal, and amp-related stuff. I would love to share any knowledge I have.

[@geozodis8679]

@@tonecraft5386 thanks a lot!!!! much appreciate. I will definitely need some help when add more pedals!!!

[@nospillblood]

I have copied this EXACTLY and there is no difference between the noise pedal on and off. I have the same pedals you have as well. I'm trying the high gain on amp with the gain pedals - is there a setting on the amp you need to change?

[@tonecraft5386]

what amp are you using and what are the pedals you are using?

[@christianmatas1990]

quick question. if it has an eq pedal (ge7/mxr) where would you place it? TIA

[@tonecraft5386]

Thank you so much for such a good question. Just my personal opinion is, EQ can go anywhere depending upon which pedal sound you would like to make a change. I personally have placed after dirt sound and before mod and time pedal. Also, as per my understanding, EQ should go along after the preamp section. In my diagram presentation, all options have preamps used through an amp in different ways. For Example in the Diagram of Option 3, the preamp section (which is basically on the amp) is used after the Dirt pedal. In this case, I would say EQ might work effectively after the amp section. So, in this case, I would like to suggest placing EQ either between Amp 'Send' and Noise Suppressor 'Return' OR Noise Suppressor Output and Modulation section.

[@christianmatas1990]

@@tonecraft5386 @Tone Craft thank you so much. i was following option #2 and i was confused on where to put my eq.. just want to ask again if you dont mind. i have a behringer vtone gdi 21( guitar amp modeler-driver-di)and a zoom msbt 100, im trying option #2 which goes like this eq> wah> ns2 input, ns2 output> dd3> zoom msbt 100> amp... then ns2 send> metal muff> ds2>sd1> eq> behringer vtone> ns2 return.. am i doing it right? hoping for your reply. tnx

[@mvenuti1980]

Where would a looper fit in the signal chain in example 3?

[@tonecraft5386]

@Fr. Matthew Venuti, Thank you for the Good question you asked. This is something I missed to discussed in the video. Normally the looping pedal has to be in the last in the chain to record every kind of desire sound. In option 3 in my video, if you put the looper after the reverb pedal which is the last pedal in the chain order, will be the best place so that we can loop all of the desired sound and play. Please try and let me know. Thank you again.

[@charliephipps.3760]

Should I do option 2 as I don’t have an amp send or return on my amp

[@tonecraft5386]

Yes, definitely That is the actual purpose of option 2 in the video.

[@mrzhangyi]

Where should I place the mixer in the option 3, so that the noise reduction only apply to guitar, not microphone or bass? Currently I added the mixer to the cable 2 which is wrong way I think.

[@tonecraft5386]

Do you mean actual sound mixer or Guitar EQ pedal?

[@mrzhangyi]

@@tonecraft5386 the actual sound mixer. I figured out now. It’s simply moving it from cable 2 to cable 3 in your graph, i.e. right before amp return instead of amp input. BTW, your video is very helpful.

[@tonecraft5386]

@@mrzhangyi Thankyou very much, Don't forget to subscribe and like the video.

[@zago78]

In opción 3, where do I put an EQ pedal?

[@tonecraft5386]

EQ pedal can go any where. I can't tell you where to place your eq pedal without knowing how is your guitar tone and our OD/DS tone. My simple suggestion is, First check you clean guitar tone and if you want to change your guitar dynamics in term of eq. Put it between guitar and OD/DS. If you like your clean guitar tone dynamics and want to change the OD/DS dynamics, then place it after the OD/DS.

[@marekbronder1804]

Good movie, but I can't agree with two things in the chain of effects. First, the boost pedal must be placed after the NS-2's effects loop, directly in front of the modulators section. When you turn off the NS-2, you will disable the booster while playing solos without using the gain section (a booster for playing without distortion). The second thing is the compressor, which should also be available when playing clean sounds, with the gain section turned off. The compressor should be placed directly behind the tuner and in front of the WAH pedal. This is how I set it up in my pedalboard. Generally great.

[@tonecraft5386]

Thanks, Marek, I really appreciate for putting your valuable suggestion. What you mentioned about the placement of the boost and compressor pedal is 100% true. In this demo, I focused only on the NS2 setup configuration and ways to get rid of humming noise.

[@tenthousandtemples]

Option 2 can be done better. You can put the modulation and time-based pedals through the amp fx loop.

[@tonecraft5386]

You are very true. I had put the link as an alternative to option 1 in a similar way in the description but didn't think for option 2.

[@warren4838]

I'm building a hybrid pedalboard, is this the correct chain? OD--noise gate--multi effects---preamp? thanks,

[@tonecraft5386]

I would suggest to put OD and noise gate in the FX loop send and return in the multi effect. Multi effect pedal do have its preamp already. so assign your OD before the preamp in the multi effect in one FX loop send and return and assign Noise gate after the preamp in the multi effect with second FX loop send and return. and BTW which multi effect are you using. Not all Multi effect pedal does come with FX loop send and return connection.

[@warren4838]

@@tonecraft5386 sorry forgot the distortion, my chain is OD--distortion--noise gate--zoom g3xn, I'm going to purchase a behringer GDI21(preamp), I was thinking to put it on the last chain,

[@tonecraft5386]

@@warren4838 Zoom g3xn does not have fx loop with send and return option. Also, what amp are you using to play? try not to use multiple preamp. In your case, you are trying to use behringer preamp, the g3xn already do have preamp. and if you are using guitar amp, it is does have preamp. this will sound muddy. and you can't get the tone right.

[@billhinsperger8120]

Will the noise gate work on the distortion pedals in the 3 rd diagram if they are connected after the noise gate heading into the amp?

[@tonecraft5386]

Yes it should work. Any noise gate work same as NS2. But should have send and return connection for diagram 3.

[@billhinsperger8120]

@@tonecraft5386 wat if I have no clean pedals in the loop? I still need to use the 4 cable method send and return in order for my distortion to be silenced between noise gate snd front of amp?

[@tonecraft5386]

@@billhinsperger8120 ​ 4 cable method in Option 3 is to suppress noise/hum from dirt pedal as well as amp. Some Amp does produce noise from the amp as well. If in case you are using clean amp like most Fender does have it, you can setup with option 2 just to suppress noise/hum from dirt pedal. 4 Cable method generally cancel all the noise coming from the dirt pedal as well as from the Amp. I hope my explanation is understandable.

[@billhinsperger8120]

@@tonecraft5386 thanx yes I havre a messa rectifier it’s noisy and dirt pedals just wasn’t sure if placing them between gate and amp would stop the noise I thought I would have to put them before the gate I have tried a bunch of different ways with my Marshall they seemed to all work looking for the best and proper way thanx

[@tonecraft5386]

@@billhinsperger8120 I am very glad its working for you. If you have any further question, feel free to ask anything, I would be happy to share any knowledge I have.

[@axelgonzaga94]

Pregunta: donde poner el pedal de volumen? (where to put the volume pedal?)

[@tonecraft5386]

Puedes poner el volumen en cualquier lugar. No hay un lugar específico para el volumen. La mayoría de los guitarristas ponen el volumen al principio pensando que corta el sonido justo después de la guitarra. Pero según mi experiencia, puedes poner en cualquier lugar cómo se ajusta la pedalera al pedal. No tiene ningún impacto en el sonido general.

[@axelgonzaga94]

@@tonecraft5386 Gracias, tomare tu consejo

[@tonecraft5386]

@@axelgonzaga94 De nada. Siempre estoy feliz de ayudar con cualquier pregunta relacionada con la guitarra y el sonido de la guitarra. Suscríbete y dale me gusta a mi canal.

[@benywitanto4150]

Where do I place the Boss Harmonist pedal? Thx

[@stefanodallolmo7335]

At the beginning of the chain

[@nailzconnely1490]

does the send/return work the same way it would on an amplifier?

[@tonecraft5386]

The purpose of Send and return in Amp and Noise suppressor are different.

[@garretar48]

where to put eq pedal in 4cable method?

[@tonecraft5386]

you can put EQ depending upon which pedal sound you wanna modify. Personally if i need to suggest, in 4 cable method, EQ will be effective to put between Amp send and NS2 Return, in cable 4 in the option 3 video. In my opinion, modulation and time section pedal has nothing to do with the EQ, but the clean sound and OD/DS sound might need to be controlled by EQ.

[@toxicneptune9442]

any tips for doing this to a unmodded twin reverb?

[@tonecraft5386]

Hello Toxic Neptune, Thanks for checking my video. if you are using an unmodded twin reverb amp that does not have the "send and return" option, Please check the option 2 setting in my video at 2:53

[@felipesabbagpontes5157]

For anyone getting gain loss with option 3, I solved it using option 2 - even though I am using the amp gain....

[@studio-shaabdik]

I am using tc electronic iron curtain, Can you show me the signal chain using it?????? Please

[@marygaleac]

Use it after your distortion pedals and before delay etc

[@tonecraft5386]

Hi, Since your TC Electronic Iron Curtain has only input and output and does not have "send and return", you should connect it after distortion/Overdrive/Fuzz and before any delay and modulation. Please refer to my first setup in my video as explained in Option 1. Also. If you are using high gain from the amp, you can connect your noise gate, modulation, and delay in the send and return of the amp. Please check the description, I have included the picture set up how you can set up the Noise gate, Delay, and modulation pedal in Send and Return of the amp. Here is also the link: drive.google.com/file/d/1JrXyWXe5IF8YXxlj43gdJhoKU5Z-jhOT/view

[@tonecraft5386]

@@marygaleac Thanks you Ashley for your early reply.

[@kicikocani1]

where to put the EQ ?