Stop pandering to woke mobs: comedian Andrew Doyle

Comedian and playwright Andrew Doyle on the "new puritans" and their godawful religion of social justice.
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Over the past decade, no social critic has been more withering toward identity politics and cancel culture than Andrew Doyle, the playwright, comedian, and journalist from Northern Ireland. Whether it's creating the parodic Twitter personality Titania McGrath or penning a best-selling defense of free speech, the Oxford-educated and openly gay Doyle has never missed an opportunity to show the folly of the political correctness currently eating its way through our universities, corporations, and politics like termites through soft wood.
His new book is The New Puritans: How the Religion of Social Justice Captured the Western World, and he spoke with Reason's Nick Gillespie about the sources of and solutions to what he calls the "frenzy of conformity" that characterizes so much of contemporary media, academia, and policy.
0:00 Intro
0:37 New Puritans
4:56 Personal Ideology
7:27 The Enlightenment
16:15 History of the Puritans
21:55 Power and Fear
28:37 Legitimacy Crisis in Science
34:27 Roots of Critical Social Justice
41:20 Post-Modernism
47:01 Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism
58:45 An Upperclass Movement
1:03:18 The Ways Out
1:10:48 Art and Critical Thinking
1:22:24 Apology for Wokeism
1:29:45 Modern Day Ipswich Bridge
Produced by Nick Gillespie; Edited by Justin Zuckerman and Adam Czarnecki

[@Discourses-NewMedia]

The host is just immensely off-putting constantly interrupting the guest. For heavens sake, let the guest speak, if you invited him to speak. Listeners care about his point, not your constant interjections.

[@ratonsito2836]

Nick, for God's sake, let your guest speak

[@royjacobs1204]

If your guest is far better informed and read than you, best listen not interrupt

[@garyweglarz]

Please let your guest speak - please. He's why we're watching. Just saying.

[@averygraning2629]

Nick it's not a competition of one-upmanship to see who has read most, let the guest speak...

[@tipple58]

Pro tip (interviewer): Let your guest, the interviewee, do most of the talking. In other words, put a sock in it, mate.

[@zeej80]

YES!!!! And not really adding anything to the conversation at all.. he kept interrupting to say absolutely nothing! Keep ya mouth shut!

[@that1chickinFL]

I hope he's reading these comments.

[@recentevil]

Yeah. Nick babbled like a cokehead. Stfu, dude. Ask your question and don't step all over his answer.

[@lunadark9157]

Let Andrew talk!

[@shavais33]

My wife teaches at a public elementary school. Recently there's been this 11 year old boy who has decided he's a girl, and the school authorities have decided to allow him to use the girl's bathroom. And they decided not to tell the parents, in order to protect this kid's "confidentiality." So.. imagine you're the father of a 7 year old girl, and she comes home and tells you about how this 11 year old boy violated her "confidentiality" by peeking through the crack between the bathroom stall door and column at her while she was sitting on the toilet. And you've had no warning about this. This kind of thing is why my city just had the first negative population growth year since the 60's.

[@ThePbag]

Doyle is a joy as always. It's a shame that this interviewer is absolutely terrible.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Doyle is a voice of reason in a troubled world.

[@serpentines6356]

Yes, thank goodness for people like him, and Douglas Murray, and Lindsey, and Posie Parker, etc. As an American I don't know anyone who knows who the heck I am talking about if I bring up these names. (They do know JK Rowling though).

[@JordanEndTimeServantOfYah144]

​@@serpentines6356 I am an American and I know who you're talking about and love them too! Also JK Rowling has a Baphomet tattoo and is a Freemason. I've never read Harry Potter either. But yes we need WAY more people speaking up to denounce this craziness. I am only 31 and I never would have thought people would actually think Men can get pregnant and we don't know what a woman is. Like I am in shock but also I've been speaking up since 2016 and have gotten Instagram and different social media accounts deleted due to speaking up. But a lot of this in the Bible. In Jeremiah it makes a sarcastic joke "Can men get pregnant?" And obviously we know the answer is "no" but some people in society and terrifying enough even DOCTORS and those in the Medical field say "Yes" like think about that if you were dying would you want someone who thinks men can get pregnant? It's like we are splitting into 2 different worlds. Truth and Deception. The end times. I fully believe we are there. Happy to find another American ❤

[@DoggieFosters]

We second-wave feminists are still alive & kicking in America too. Lesbian feminists in the US have been speaking out for decades. Terf is a slur, very gendered, used against women who ask the mildest questions. Would you like to interview some prominent American "terfs"? I can point you in their direction. Fantastic interview. Very enjoyable. Thank you.

[@blugreen99]

I am a sperm producing manterf observed to be male at birth or maybe before birth.

[@marcopolo9146]

Why does the interviewer keep interupting Dr. Doyle? Yes, we know the interviewer is smart but I came here to listen to Dr. Doyle.

[@douglasfreeman3229]

Is he a Dr.?

[@TheAngryengineer]

​@@douglasfreeman3229Yes, he has a PhD

[@mikem4984]

Fantastic conversation! Andrew has become one of my favorite commentators, particularly on this subject. My only criticism would be for Nick not to have interrupted as frequently as he did. Although that happened less so in the second half of the conversation. Other than that, bravo!

[@MrVvulf]

I pre-ordered a copy of Andrew's book for two main reasons: 1. Andrew is insightful and witty, so I'm sure I'll enjoy it. 2. I think the polemical message of the book is spot on and I want to support authors brave enough to take on woke ideology.

[@amarissimus29]

I think only James Lindsay is better able to pin down the heart of the ideology concisely. The difficulty in defining the woke arguments is part of the design- that's why they are so thoroughly postmodern - subversion of the language is a powerful tool. It only works, ironically enough, because people are generally open-minded enough to take them seriously. Once you've opened the door to rejecting a shared reality in which we can all agree on at least a few irrefutable fundamental truths, you've ceded reason to emotion and superstition. Anti-enlightenment. And like a parasite, it crawls inside your brain, gluts itself on your compassion and ultimately leaves you a dribbling husk. Then it queers your kids, who will put you out of your misery. Unfortunately, they won't be reading the book, as they're illiterate, which does not preclude activism.

[@eemoogee160]

@@amarissimus29 damn man, that was hilarious!

[@Mohawkmonkey360]

I hate how Nick always has a point to make in the middle of someone else's answer.

[@innovationatwork199]

Nick is great but you nailed it. Hey Nick, take note for your KPIs this year!

[@cnrspiller3549]

I disagree. His interjections are very conversational in tone and usually add some relevant expansion or a related point of interest.

[@robert5897]

That is what is being an interviewer is about.

[@carpo719]

@@robert5897 as long as it's done tactically at the right time. Especially frustrating when interviewers say "yeah" and "uh huh" when someone is speaking

[@Mohawkmonkey360]

@@cnrspiller3549 But you're really not supposed to put you question at the start of paragraph. He asks questions the continues to talk for a while

[@joshlarkin5022]

I am a classic Christian Conservative and it is odd that I find myself agreeing with these two individuals on many things when they are what used to be true blue Democrats. But it turns out that we are all just freedom loving individuals that disagree on a few items but at the end of the day we we are all seeking liberty and justice for all.

[@carpo719]

And that's exactly the point, I'm a liberal but I share a lot of values with christians, and conservatives. Most of us are on the same page, we just want to be left alone to live our lives. It's a very small portion of people who make the problems.

[@tommyanomaly6193]

It's the overall culture. There are still some classical liberal values on both sides.

[@CC-lf7ff]

Yes! I appreciate and agree with your comment!

[@wordscapes5690]

There is no such thing as a conservative Christian or a liberal Christian. You are either a follower of Christ (a Christian) or you are a follower of Someone Else. ;)

[@tommyanomaly6193]

@@wordscapes5690 I'm not a follower of Christ.

[@jumpinjimmie7845]

"The Woke" is the story start to how the Borg came to be in Star trek .

[@JChang0114]

The Borg would reject woke individuals as they would be classified as unworthy of assimilation.

[@Dancestar1981]

I keep saying that

[@rosiethebear300]

Yes WEF's fascination with trans humanism !

[@Kyles414]

Let the man finish a answer Nick.

[@b4zz3d59]

Thank you. It's so rude and annoying to listen to. Let the man finish.

[@lemoncrash1814]

Dude recognize when your guest is more interesting than you and stop over-talking him.

[@robdielemans9189]

What's great about Doyly Doyle is that he's able to come up with solutions.

[@jessesewell7922]

“Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere might be having fun.” HL Mencken

[@2010COpall]

Wokeness is designed to make people victims of their own virtues.

[@marcusdavenport1590]

Yes, @ReasonTV..... Stop pandering!!! You're the ones who needed this message

[@justathumb]

you would do your audience a great service if you would kindly not interrupt your guest so much.

[@TweakRacer]

“Upper middle class bourgeoisie luxury” = “first world problems“ where people have too much and have it too easy and have lost all shame.

[@sovietunion7643]

a great comment i saw elsewhere was essentially saying "if the biggest problem you as a person are facing is someone misgendering you then your society is doing pretty well" the problem is that people get disconnected from reality, especially in things like academia and hollywood where imagination thinking is good for the job. so people see the world in ways its not. a great example of this is glourifying latino and muslim cultures without seeing the issues within them, while hating on "cis white male" culture despite the fact the enlightenment gave us the ability to have a such insanely wealthy life in the united states and western Europe. its selective sight, and the way they go about "equity" is complete bullshit. you can't shut down the conversation just because someone is offended hearing not so great facts about life. its entirely possible to understand how a culture came to be while still also being able to judge that certain cultures got things very right and others not so much.

[@lemoncrash1814]

This video should be called: stop thinking your points are more important than your guest’s.

[@almcdonald8676]

Is this where Nick invites a guest on to listen to him expound his own political insights?

[@CrystalShadow]

😅😅😅

[@carolspencer6915]

I'm a mental health nurse thinking overwhelmingly so and critically in my very 'real time' decision/thinking, to remain in my said nurse practice of seventeen years within NHS or not! For many reasons/variables subjects you have discussed touched upon here, within the realms and empires built and encompass, critical social justice. I feel the absolute lack of attention and flawed transparency within social justice is near 'critical', requiring addressing too. Thankyou again to both of you for your shared platform and discussions.💜

[@TJ-kk5zf]

Smartest comedian I've ever heard

[@wolfsden3]

I really appreciate Nick's additional commentary. I love it how he says, "and I know you know this", which tells us that he's commenting for the less educated about the topic like me to further explain or flush out a thought contextually. ❤️🔥🔥🔥

[@mrridikilis]

The interviewer interrupts too much. Maybe it's an issue of video conference lag? That would account for it, but he doesn't let his guest finish his ideas. Mr. Doyle was, however, very accommodating.

[@TweakRacer]

The Salem bridge moment is irrefutable proof that shame culture MUST be brought back as it is the only effective societal safety valve on many such craziness which lack in common sense or decency.

[@serpentines6356]

That's what I say. Good religion that promotes good behaviour needs to be supported too.

[@TweakRacer]

“Coalesces to… a loss of humility,” the sad departure of shame culture from Western civilization.

[@caroldixon3124]

I adore Andrew Doyle and have read his books and never miss Free Speech Nation. His war on woke shows a bravery very few would dare to speak for fear of cancel culture.

[@tozmom615]

Oh ffs let your guest speak. Edit- could only watch another fifteen minutes. The constant interruptions are so infuriating. Unwatchable for me.

[@cnrspiller3549]

Nice one Doylie. Keep up the good fight. After PayPal's recent shenanigans I think we desperately need our Ipswich Bridge. If financial institutions start attacking our money because a few well-placed woke ideologues within the workforce have grabbed the levers of power, then it's game over for truth and our way of life.

[@carpo719]

PayPal has been at this for years. I'm glad its finally coming to light

[@renamedplaya8351]

I ended up skipping Nicks parts and just watching Andrews.

[@ninjaec]

Not much left of the video then

[@youdodat2]

Dude! I loved your performance in “No Country for Old Men.” 😂

[@tracygriffith4038]

Your interviews are always so informative. This one is great, I feel like I learn so much listening to Reason TV.

[@carpo719]

I listened to the whole thing, in spite of the dialogue issues. This topic is important and I think we are on the precipice of a major shift in tolerance of people who decided to be the internet police

[@JonathanRossRogers]

Dialogue issues?

[@justathumb]

@@JonathanRossRogers Andrew being interrupted a lot perhaps?

[@JonathanRossRogers]

@@justathumb Nick does interrupt some times. I sometimes find him infuriating while appreciating his ability to challenge interviewees.

[@lirands2730]

❤ Andrew Doyle

[@jennyk9748]

Whoever invented the phrase, "my truth", was a master manipulator. It instantly renders every argument or fact posed to the true believer (or new puritan) inconsequential because, after all, this is MY truth and my truth can be whatever I want it to be.

[@Dancestar1981]

No such thing as my truth. There is the truth and there are lies

[@davidcoulombe3924]

I don't know who the guy is that's hosting the show, but he seems to want to hear himself speak more than Andrew. We are here to listen to what Andrew has to say, and this guy is constantly interrupting him.

[@minhearg8331]

It was good to see Nick Gillespie letting Andrew Doyle get a few words in.

[@davidpaulcarlson8763]

Nick, at times you made it hard for your guest to get a word in. Love your content tho.

[@Galvaxatron]

Other than Nick interrupting Andrew a half dozen times this was a particularly good interview. Nick asked great questions throughout. Hopefully he can learn to STFU a little more.

[@justathumb]

it actually becomes stressful because i'm bracing not knowing if i'm going to get to hear Andrew's full answer 😂

[@dallaspoll]

Thank you both for the publication of such rational views. It’s so reassuring to listen to such intelligence and reason, though now is not the time for complacency. Rather than merely be “reassured” that reason still exists, I for one will at least attempt to assert it. Thank you again.

[@hopelessatusernames]

The point that part of this is on the level of fashion is well taken. I've long had a (semi serious) notion that Foucault became so well cited partly because academics love the words "Foucault" and "Foucauldian", and themselves for being able to pronounce them.

[@croagh202]

Wow. Great stuff. Andrew on form.

[@Aceshooting]

Wokeness is stupid because no one will ever be woke enough. You will drown attempting to tread that water. I liked some random guy’s take on gender during an on the street interview: “If you were dead and buried for 1000 years, the archaeologist is going to identify whether you were a male or female by your bones.” I dislike that if or when I’d speak to someone who’s asking me describe myself, that I’d have to answer whether I’m Cis-gendered. Language and communication are already effort. Why complicate the process for vast majority of folks?

[@lallalucas4145]

Complicating the process of communication is the weapon being used against ordinary people. The aim is to waste their time and energy and bring them to a state of despair - when they are completely exhausted, confused and demoralised they will give up and hand over their freedom

[@serpentines6356]

Because "they" like to complicate things. It's one of the things that makes them feel superior to others. They are ridiculous snobs.

[@thumper84]

This is why we need the first amendment protections as a human right not just a constitutional right. For example, social media should not be able to ban someone or delete a post based on content unless someone gets a court order. Their whole business model is communication so it needs to be completely free. PayPal banks and credit card companies should not be allowed to deny service unless the service violates US law.

[@katiek.8808]

The bill of rights are inalienable human rights. They are not constitutional. They are recognized by the constitution to be protected by government. This is clearly not happening.

[@stevenlightfoot6479]

My only complaint here is the reference to PHD, with the implication it has anything to do with critical thinking skills. A PHD means nothing except that you like school.

[@charlief.]

Well said, my friend!

[@captainz9]

As I've always said as the degrees go up your knowledge narrows... By the time you get to a PhD you know an immense amount of knowledge about such a narrow sliver of knowledge it's next to nothing.

[@Dancestar1981]

@@captainz9 one reason why once I completed a basic undergraduate degree despite being invited back for honours I chose not to take it up as I could see the writing on the wall

[@serpentines6356]

@@captainz9 Personally, I think it depends on the field, and how one applies oneself. Sometimes that "narrow" focus is quite passionate, and either makes new discoveries, or helps to make them.

[@psantini2968]

Andrew Doyle is a delight and his analysis is very clear-sighted. He was also very patient and polite throughout, as this interviewer is a real pain, always interrupting to try to show how clever he is.

[@irone93]

When the interviewer talks more than the interviewy

[@wuwei128]

Wow!!..more of this everywhere please!!...extremely clear!!!

[@AndyJarman]

Hadn't appreciated how well read Andrew is. This talk is making me nostalgic for the You Tube of 2018, the IDW and all that. Well read people discussing important ideas.

[@aslamtu]

Another great interview by Nick with an important thinker.

[@TheMichaelMove]

It’s like purposely bleeding into the water to stop a shark attack. Feeding frenzy.

[@umeng2002]

"No no, we're oppressing you for your own good."

[@crescendo5594]

I completely disagree in regard to the extent that the early post modernists were activists in application. Foucault made a concerted effort, and had the support from a ton of “philosophers” of his time, to abolish age of consent laws, most certainly based on the post modernist view of the age of consent “meta narrative”. Almost all of these people not only contributed to modern social justice through the academic pipeline, but were also ideologically aligned with the modern social justice warrior of today in many, many ways. Second, I think it’s absurd that the term “cultural Marxism” has any anti-Semitic connotation whatsoever. Almost nobody who is critical of the Frankfurt school gives one iota of a damn what their religious beliefs, or ethnicity is. They propagated disgusting dialectical ideas, building upon what Marx and Engels laid the foundation for.

[@michaelweber5702]

It would be nice if you wouldn't interrupt , Nick ...

[@carpo719]

Hopefully he reads the comments

[@that1chickinFL]

Good god, let the man talk!

[@Andre_Louis_Moreau]

Using the term cultural marxism is fine. 10 years ago, after I'd been studying thought control tactics for a while, I could clearly see the totalitarian tactics outlined in Robert Lifton's 8 were being used abundantly by feminism, and the social injustice left. I just didn't know their source. I didn't know if the tactics arose spontaneously in our culture, or by some ideological agenda? Cultural marxism was the 1st wikipedia source I came across... fortunately before 2015 when they changed it. I came across all the big names there, Gramsci, Fromm, Adorno, Horkheimer, Marcuse. I read Marcuse before James Lindsay ever got around to it, although he's far surpassed me by now! Don't back down from these nut jobs! There's nothing at all anti semetic about using the term cultural marxism because bigots and bullies asserted it is. Ffs, it is an accurate description of reality. Horkheimer himself believed the word 'justice' to be synonymous with 'communism'. That makes 'social justice', either social injustice, or 'social communism'. And "social communism" is accurate. Cultural marxists do believe that all people are either oppressed or oppressor based on their immutable traits. Their obvious bigotry aside, that is "social communism"... "social marxism"... and "cultural marxism". Always articulate reality accurately, especially if cultural marxists are offended. Ffs, the title of this video is "stop pandering to the woke mob"... practice what you preach.

[@Dancestar1981]

This crap was happening in the universities 20 plus years ago in Australia.

[@Neworldisordered]

Thx for taking time to comment here. I am now researching Robert Lifton's 8 criteria for brainwashing.

[@markkavanagh7377]

Another win for Truth and Rationality is that Hadley Freeman has gone from The Guardian to The Times!! 5 years ago she would be lambasted for betraying her beliefs, now she is lauded for the courage of standing by them.

[@winstonsmith8240]

" Impervious to reason." 'nuff said.

[@BB-cf9gx]

Tatanya McGrath. Superb.

[@that1chickinFL]

Gave up at the half. One of my biggest pet peeves is a host inviting a guest on just to end up having the host do most of the talking. Andrew took his time out, you invited him on to get his perspective, so shut up and listen to it and stop interrupting the man! So rude and arrogant.

[@lechenaultia5863]

What's the point of inviting such an intelligent thoughtful person onto your channel then repeatedly asking him questions and interrupting him after 20 seconds?

[@L_Martin]

36:11 You're interrupting him too much!! It was getting worse and then this part is too much, let the man finish a sentence!!

[@drcrowlee]

Wait wait. How is the term CULTURAL MARXISM anti-semetic now? I'm over half-jewish and I use that term to describe the communistic Tendencies of the woke left. I wasn't aware it had taken on this other connotation can someone please explain it to me?

[@Dancestar1981]

It never was it’s them doubling down on censorship

[@brandotheone]

Great interview!

[@randr302]

This host loves his own voice.he just can't let guest finish a friggin sentence(to a question!) Good interview nonetheless

[@skwest]

Regarding trangendering children as being done with _"The best of intentions"._ Uh huh. Sure.

[@watchingvideosnow]

Ah, the intensity and intrusiveness of interrupting the interviewee...

[@jeremyogrizovich3247]

This is great

[@Murdrad]

Feels like there's a lot of brackround I have to know to fully engoy this conversation. Still informative.

[@zeej80]

Omg.. Nick- please let the speaker finish!! We don’t need to hear your interruptions,& your points don’t need to be made. This would have been amazing to listen to if u would have kept your mouth shut,& let him finish speaking.

[@blobmonster9494]

It is the modern witch trials.

[@mattrichards8090]

The higher one's status the more one has to lose.

[@skwest]

Frederick Douglass seeing his own struggle when reading about the Irish gives the lie to this corrosive concept of 'representation'.

[@reginaldsimms199]

I'm openly straight and openly black

[@Menstral]

Intelligence is a function of historical geographic origin (statistically). Lack of intelligence will in fact indicate prevalent criminal behavior and high birth rate. Previously this pattern was identified, and this pattern persists without the slightest interruption into the modern day in the present moment. Racism is about a priori judgment of individuals, when they may not have the characteristics in the detriments/benefits of the group.

[@cnrspiller3549]

Not convinced of your first assertion. Thomas Sowell is very thorough on this subject.

[@carpo719]

Don't forget there are several types of intelligence, one man could live off the land and and have no education, while a genius might not know how to start a fire. Geography is not that relevant when you consider that many tribes live peacefully without having the slightest notion of our version of intelligence. It's extremely subjective Intelligence is based in the environment you live in the needs you have. Musical intelligence, emotional intelligence etc. So once we look at it that way, we realize everybody has some intelligence to share if we look at it the right way.

[@mark4asp]

"We all thought this can be contained within the humanities."

[@serpentines6356]

What is "TPTB"? So briefly, in your opinion what is the best thing to say to a Greta Thunberg?

[@mark4asp]

@@serpentines6356 TPTB - The Powers That Be, AKA The elites. I can't talk to Greta. A section of the Left have been chanting "the planet is being destroyed by us" for so long they've picked their brains in self-hate.

[@serpentines6356]

@@mark4asp Oh, people keep using so many word shortcuts, I can't keep up. I figured since you said you studied CC, you might have some sensible "arguments" to the climate crisis apocalyptic crowd.

[@mark4asp]

@@serpentines6356 I don't think there is a climate crisis. Models are the only evidence I've seen for it. But the models aren't based on sound science. Earth's climate is controlled by the sun, not the man.

[@serpentines6356]

@@mark4asp That's what I hear. Also, people say volcanos have a big effect. I am just not a big science person, so don't know how to absorb the "data." I love mother nature, but where I live the whole county, everyone in office is about stopping "climate change" and it's never made much sense to me. Drives me nuts. If one doesn't go along with it you might as well be a complete imbecile.

[@rickolsonmusic]

The ppl in power are too busy covering up other stuff. Truth gets in the way. Propagation of petty divisions is useful.

[@AllIsWellaus]

I'm proudly left leaning to the point of not be afraid to defend my views on life and most importantly because of the current political situation, I'm open to being wrong.

[@rickolsonmusic]

To me Facebook is what he’s talking about as a 100% correspondence. I deleted it in 2019 and while I still see the crap affect the news, it’s proportionally less to me w/o Facebook… (can ignore it on Twitter or yt cause don’t know the people

[@jasonromaine]

Minute 21: This symbiotic relationship between the wealthy and the whiners is the heart of the problem.

[@fandude7]

A better title would have been, 'Secular Puritans.'

[@JChang0114]

Personally, I would volunteer to serve as any Truth and Reconciliation committee when the Trans fervor breaks.

[@marionreynolds7080]

Thank you Nick Gillespie. I’m very familiar with Andrew Doyle’s work and a passionate admirer. You really dug into his interesting and thought provoking narrative about this vexed subject. You clearly read his work very thoroughly and posed challenging questions. I thank you.

[@rachelbassett4942]

Totally agree with Andrew re art etc... Words, pictures, colours, shapes, stories enables curiosity learning and relearn time and time again ❤

[@KH-aug]

I didn't see this so much as an interview as a spirited conversation between two very well-educated, thoughtful analysts/writers, and I felt Nick's input was quite interesting. However, as many said below, he needs to get better at holding his tongue and awaiting his turn to speak. By which time it's possible either a) the conversation will have turned away from the point or observation he wanted to make or share, or b) he'll have forgotten it entirely, at least at that moment. That's the challenge inherent in a good dialogue (I'm very prone to doing this kind of interrupting myself), but a respectful, skillful conversant will do their best to allow their fellow to finish their main point or story first. Andrew's really wonderful, but I think Nick's great too.

[@lowbudgetmic]

Social justice warriors to woke kulture.... that evolution. 😮

[@marygem]

Ah..the "endless meaning of words" chase...again and forever.

[@MrMartman777]

Thank You for Clarifying on The Puritans.

[@DarkHorseSki]

I majored in English Lit (a double major with Computer Science) and I never had to write things to say anything was problematic with the works I read. (And this was the 1987-91 era.)

[@KH-aug]

Then you may not have been at the most elite institution. That said, even at the elites, you certainly had a choice in this. But at the more lefty, progressive elite colleges/uni's, the concept of the problematic as analytical tool was more popular anyway.

[@DarkHorseSki]

@@KH-aug Big 10 schools are pretty elite.

[@mattdonahue9516]

that was a zoroastrian flame purification ceremony,don't forget!diversity,inclusion,stunning,so brave.

[@tomburroughes9834]

Excellent dialogue.

[@growlansing5121]

" who do you think created cancel culture? " -Kanye West

[@blueguise23]

Black nationalists (in this new wave).

[@PaoloaBerra]

Very interested in reading his book.

[@calebcarpenter9490]

Waste of time, just read his books, they aren't interrupted in the middle of a thought lol

[@usnbostx2]

I could have gone my whole life denouncing cultural Marxism and not known it had anything to do with antisemitism. Thanks.