Stop Running Google Chrome Immediately

I warned you when the Manifest v3 rollout was announced, I warned you just before it's started, this is your very final warning to stop running Google Chrome and Chromium if you care about content blockers actually working.
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[@BrodieRobertson]

I'm testing out subtitles made with Whisper with a bit of manual editing on top for some videos so if you spot any problems please let me know PS. I know Brave has a built in adblocker, that's unaffected, that's why I said it has a built in adblocker, that's unaffected

[@la.zanmal.]

Did it also make the thumbnail...?

[@BrodieRobertson]

@@la.zanmal. No I'm just stupid

[@AGamer_2010]

ublock origin is spelled wrong sometimes, only thing i spotted

[@Tailslol]

Oof firefox is sooooo slooooow. My raspberry pi can barely handle it. And on Android sites looks so broken...

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@Tailslol Well, get a real freaking computer! On my AMD Ryzen 7 7500X (8C) its instant everything! I sometimes have ten tabs loaded many with videos... Smooth sailing!😅 So Far add free KZbin through the board thanks to Arch Linux, Firefox, Ublock Origin, Privacy Badger...

[@IvanKleshnin]

"You'll watch every Ad and you'll be happy". Nope.

[@Seriously_Unserious]

I'm using Brave and I can't watch the ads even if I wanted to, YT's anti ad blockers only trigger for me when I turn off Brave Shields and let the ads through, then it flickers on the "don't use ad blockers" popup for a moment and the video player turns black and nothing works. I turn Brave Shields back on, and the page refreshes and the video starts playing normally. Google's attempts to force me to watch their crappy ads which may include scams, literally forces me to block all ads for their platform to even work.

[@chunkblaster]

I'll block every add and ill be happy 😎

[@ApolloTheDerg]

The internet is unusable without an adblocker. Not only are they annoying, they are literally a risk to your computer.

[@acoolnameemm]

Dont you love it when you enter a webpage and you get 3 new tabs and 4 new windows?

[@Grey_Warden_Invasion]

I regularly see it on the browser at work where I can't install adblock. I don't even use it much - just occasionally for checking an IBAN or an address or the like - but even those short tasks get overloaded with ads and slow the PC down to a crawl until I can finally close the browser again. Of course I'm using adblock at home. I don't want my laptop to freeze every five seconds.

[@lorenzo42p]

I will NOT allow any corporation to shove ads in my face. the whole reason I am sick of ads is because these corporations keep pushing the limits to see how much users will put up with. I say NO

[@jjones503]

Enjoy your half hour of ads for a 5 minute clip.

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

It's like, if watching adds gave you a free service, it would be one thing; _but no._ You have to _pay_ for the internet, to give you all these adds. Sometimes you even need a subscription to a certain site, just to watch adds to view it's content (or at least, that's what they _want)._ But adblockers saved the day! -So far...-

[@lorenzo42p]

@@jjones503 hell fuckin no. I will stop using youtube before I will be forced to watch ads.

[@jjones503]

@@lorenzo42p I use brave on mobile for KZbin. I don't get ads. I run a piHole for most other stuff but it doesn't seem to catch youtube ads, but gets about 80% of website ads.

[@itschamesbitch]

Cool story, bro

[@XoaGray]

I gave up on Chrome a long time ago, back when Google quit being the "Don't be evil" company and decided that just straight up being evil was the way to go.

[@BoredPodcaster]

They've always been this way. They're just tired of trying to deny it, despite the proof constantly being shewn in their face.

[@khatdubell]

being evil is always the way to go

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

Having your company slogan be "don't be evil" isn't weird, but it _is_ weird if your company slogan _used to be_ "don't be evil"

[@Not_interestEd-]

I gave up on Chrome because it was just... bland. There isn't anything it does special, and that's fine for most people. I switched to Opera GX because it actually had a bunch of things I found useful (notably passive background music and workspaces). I then switched to Brave only recently after noting some serious security concerns and _why was it eating 1.3 gigs of RAM on a blank tab!?_ Installed a GitHub RAM cleaner exe (not a bloatware pile of junk), dropped to 500MB actively being used, interesting, something's going on, time to bail. Brave doesn't have native workspace functionality which I miss and audio from one tab (or the background music) doesn't mute when another tab is playing audio. Good news is 600MB of RAM is being used on a Twitch page (Brave is Chromium based, I dunno about security, frankly, I don't really care) and the music is easier to customise, since it's no longer reliant on JSON files and jank, which unfortunately leads to the problem that it doesn't begin playing when I open the browser.

[@E0O2X314FT]

I gave up on Chrome when I noticed it started scanning my entire system for viruses... and deleting files.

[@davidDN2318]

No warning needed for me, we are already on firefox

[@brambasieldev]

waring*

[@rainbowskeppy5292]

same

[@yurimodin7333]

always has been

[@justmeowth9697]

I can't believe that Firefox is going back.

[@𪜊]

we're*

[@IamCoalfoot]

Google decides competitors aren't allowed ads, then get butthurt when customers decide they don’t want ads.

[@AlexFoxken]

karma

[@light-gray]

Google Chrome is the biggest ad for Firefox..

[@no_name4796]

Firefox biggest source of money is google Man, i really want ladybird to actually become a working browser, and be 100% FOSS, no strings attached

[@trajectoryunown]

@@no_name4796 I really hope Ladybird gets enough support to release ahead of schedule. It's going to be a long 4 years... Might learn Nyxt in the meantime.

[@Gskvj]

Just as Microsoft is the biggest ad for Linux 😂

[@pooyataleb2514]

*Brave has entered the chat

[@cameronbosch1213]

Sadly, with the anti-trust case against Google being successful, I doubt Mozilla will survive...

[@mawnkey]

It's almost like trusting companies with a financial incentive to force ads on you while censoring the hell out of you is a bad idea or something.

[@TrippSC2]

Then you need to keep your eye on Mozilla equally. They acquired an advertising company and have opt out telemetry.

[@aaronmicalowe]

Sure, you and everyone reading this wants ads. Not one person in the world wants to actually see the video they clicked on. I and trillions of people believe you - no lie. 🙄

[@TommyGunz_]

The last line you said "maybe you'll just give up on ad-blocking" Not a fucking chance in hell will i ever give up on ad-blocking. I'll go down swinging on that when i go to a website and click on something and have to close 20 tabs just to do the thing i wanna do. Yah fk all the bullshit.

[@skilletpan5674]

Adblock/ublock is the best and first anti virus/malware.

[@TommyGunz_]

@@skilletpan5674 As far as anit virus goes theres better things. But its a really good option none the less.

[@werdfeefs7027]

The standalone version of adguard should still work flawlessly for anything except ads injected directly into KZbin's video stream, so there's that. It's not free, but it is very good value.

[@DFPercush]

I mean, there's always editing the hosts file.

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@werdfeefs7027 There is a positive thing about those server side injected ads, you won't have to worry about malicious code running on your system from the ad, hopefully.

[@robina.jensen6114]

I'm using Firefox. If the day arrives where ad-blocker on youtube no longer works and i'll be forced to see ads on start of video and every 2 minutes of the video, i'll stop using KZbin!!! KZbin is detroying there own website with ads! If you don't have an ad-blocker, when seeing / listens to music, it will be ruined at every 5 minuttes! I don't want my music disturbed by stupid ads!

[@woofcaptain8212]

I mean that's what they want you to do lol. They're literally losing money on you

[@robina.jensen6114]

@@woofcaptain8212 They also loosing money when people start using Odessy or some of the other video platforms and turn there back on KZbin.

[@JamesTDG]

The frequent Hero Wars ads made me install adblock, I am NOT returning to see that... brainrot...

[@finnishview2933]

@@woofcaptain8212 If everyone stop using UT, then we will have another platform what will gain lot of users. Im sure that will happens if youtube totally stop adblockin. If we dont get another popular video sharing service, i simply start to do something else than watch videos. Its big world out there.

[@aaronmicalowe]

Never had an issue with Chrome. Switched from Firefox years ago because it was crashing so much it became unusable. They probably have fixed the issues by now, but if it ain't broke, don't change it. 🤷‍♂

[@krispee5842]

Honestly, at this point, the plugins should just say to use Firefox for a better version in their description

[@veco311]

I imagine that's against google's tos

[@aaronmicalowe]

People who say there are issues with Chrome are like the "end is nigh" people. It never actually happens.

[@duckmeat4674]

​@@aaronmicalowewhy are you shilling for chrome? Can't you recognise having ads is annoying?

[@aaronmicalowe]

@@duckmeat4674 I use Chrome and haven't had ads for many years, so there's just no issue. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@PriceAintRight]

@@aaronmicaloweit's much ado about nothing tbh. But that's just perspective. We're talmbout ads on the internet 😂

[@mrwang420]

We need an ad blocker that not only blocks but tells the ad system that the ad has been viewed. Instead of blocking it outright. Tricking the system into thinking the ads have been viewed and will move onto the content and they won't know the ad has been blocked.

[@tato-chip7612]

ITS SO CHROVER. BILLIONS MUST WATCH ADS.

[@no_name4796]

There is so much firefomentum. Nah, there really isn't

[@under6075]

WERE SO MOZILBACK

[@domojestic4155]

The Web has fallen. Upon billions (They) must spy.

[@PvblivsAelivs]

Nonsense. No one "must" watch ads. People can always choose to do without what the ads are paying for. But most people want that yummy yummy content. And they don't want to pay out of pocket.

[@MNbenMN]

​@@PvblivsAelivsWhat is your definition of "must"? When something like watching ads is a prerequisite for achieving a goal, that makes it a "must" by most definitions.

[@TheToastedGoblin]

If for some reason i cant block youtube ads in any way, we fall back to a "modern DVR" of sorts. Where i just download what i wanna watch instead of watching on youtube directly.

[@Aeroxima]

They've also been doing things that affect downloading, so that may get more difficult too. Though if the video is viewable, it should still be doable. Probably won't even have to resort to recording the screen... probably

[@BigMacIIx]

With a dns blackhole on my home network, I haven’t seen an ads on KZbin for years on any of my devices/browsers.

[@QuickNETTech]

​@@BigMacIIxthey're experimenting with ads in the video stream directly so if they go that route you're screwed lol

[@JamesTDG]

Honestly, I might end up treating YT like how I did to Reddit after they killed 3rd party app support

[@aaronmicalowe]

ublock lite is v3 compliant and works perfectly on Chrome, so there's nothing stopping you from browsing the internet the way you always have.

[@GoffRokkit]

I became a big Firefox user back when ads on IE and official websites like msnbc were downloading malware on your computer just for being on their site. Many years before Chrome existed. And I don't intend to leave anytime soon.

[@aaronmicalowe]

I became a Chrome user as Firefox kept crashing. My v3 ad blocker means I never need to see ads. Haven't seen an add in over 20 years.

[@skyknight0408]

@@aaronmicalowe I've been on FF as long as the OP for the same reason and it never did crash, not even once. Sure it's slower than other browsers, but it's always been stable for me and is the last big browser that doesn't come with Google spyware in its code! That's enough reason for me to keep using it!

[@MsMoonDragoon]

If firefox is crashing your pc is just shit.

[@1mariomaniac]

​@@aaronmicalowe Specs? I don't think I've never had Firefox crash before, it runs really smooth for me.

[@aaronmicalowe]

@@1mariomaniac It's probably because I have an old computer. Firefox couldn't run on it so I switched to Chrome and all my problems were fixed. I had resisted Chrome for years because I preferred Firefox's GUI, but the crashing became such a problem that it had to go.

[@pixels_per_minute]

Chrome isn't a browser. It's an ad delivery service, and it's working because it's the biggest advertisement for Firefox.

[@alpacamale2909]

Bro don't yell at me I'm using everyone's favorite mouthwash: Floorp

[@vidal9747]

I had some serious performance issues with Floorp. I know what you're going to say: skill issue. It is right. But sensible defaults are good and I don't have time to tweak my browser until it works. Firefox just works.

[@zeineldinfahed4292]

GOAT browser

[@luizzeroxis]

Honestly, what's up with these terrible names for open source programs? I don't want something called that on my computer.

[@zeineldinfahed4292]

@@luizzeroxis FOSS: the land of (occasional) mouthfuls

[@dktol56]

It's both a floor wax and a dessert topping....

[@MiukuMac]

On a more serious note, I do not understand why uBlock developers, or those of AdGuard, have not complained to EU about Google's near-monopolistic control over the Chromium project and via it projecting it to every other browser that uses it. It's almost certain that their dominance of the browser market violates EU TFEU Article 102 which prohibits abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position on a particular market. Since reducing security and privacy, which removing adblocking most certainly does, can be seen as harming consumers combined with market dominance is grounds for an anti-trust.. let's get on moving that forward, eh?

[@rajmajumdar5253]

That will only work on the EU market if I am not wrong, so outside of the EU they would still do this shit.

[@MiukuMac]

@@rajmajumdar5253 You're right. However it would be a start and usually if EU takes a look at something, other regulars tend to get interested - especially if they can fine Google 🙂

[@Adowrath]

@@rajmajumdar5253 That'd presume it'd be easy to control an in-EU and outside-EU variant of the same codebase at once.

[@JamesTDG]

@@rajmajumdar5253 Yes, but the fact that the Chromium base would need this tech for the EU, browser devs can just exclusively use the Manifest EU version. If google whines, they can't do jack shit

[@aaronmicalowe]

They don't need to complain because it's doing no harm. v3 doesn't affect ublock origin.

[@C1rnobyl]

Other browsers based on Chromium should get together and agree to implement an API that gives the same MV2 ad blocking capability to MV3. Essentially implement that capability anyway and only Google Chrome and Edge wouldn't implement them while everyone else does. Sure Chrome would not be able to use those extensions but browsers that would implement this API would be able to. Perhaps it will get people moving to Vivaldi or Brave.

[@Dobaspl]

They should create own chromium web store. Its big problem all of the chromium based browser. All used google store.

[@minilathemayhem]

Brave has already said they'll be working with plugin devs to provide a way for ad blockers to continue working in Brave even with MV3's implementation. As well, Brave has its own integrated ad blocker that works pretty well in my experience. I think the main issue is that these other browsers use the official Chrome extension store. They all would have to either make their own extension store, or use a common, non-Google extension store to make this effective.

[@shabadrandhawa3829]

@@minilathemayhemi have a question about brave, is the criticism against it valid, and is it good for privacy, compared to Firefox?

[@AstoundingAmelia]

​@@shabadrandhawa3829I don't know The criticisms you're talking about but if you tell me them I can respond, privacy wise, it's quite good compared to most other browsers online including Firefox

[@yurimodin7333]

@@shabadrandhawa3829 guy that started Brave used to be CEO of Mozilla.....he was actually the guy that invented javascript

[@dreamhollow]

This is going to be one of the most annoying changes to the overall Internet. Worse, this may open up browsers to horrific intrusive malware and bad data again. The sort of things adblockers were starting to block actively.

[@aaronmicalowe]

I have no worries because I use Chrome with a v3 ad blocker. Let them upgrade to v4 and v5 if they like. 🤷‍♂

[@MsMoonDragoon]

Enjoy your malware aaron. Will love to see how long it takes you to come back crying that you now have a crptlocker :)

[@jacksonbloodmoon3787]

I swapped over from Opera GX to Vivaldi, so far Vivaldi's in-built ad blocker has been flagged by KZbin and so i disabled it (it has been for quite some time) and U-Block Origin has been the only thing keeping me safe from seeing malware ads and terrible ass shitty ads on KZbin, other websites both U-Block and Vivaldi's ad blocker have worked amazingly well. But I can see a massive surge to other non-Chromium browsers getting popular and I seriously fucking hope Google or its parent company getting smacked by a lawsuit eventually for the shit they are doing by making ad blockers worse and worse and these ads not being actively monitored for malware or harmful content or content that shouldn't even be allowed on websites where kids can frequent to. Just decided to check if KZbin still flagged Vivaldi's ad blocker, it no longer gets flagged, so now I will have both active on here.

[@aaronmicalowe]

@@MsMoonDragoon Cultists have been crying, the end is nigh, for decades, yet somehow, we are still here. 🤷‍♂️

[@chriwehl7173]

​@@aaronmicaloweOr maybe you're just binging a series about the end of the world while eating food made off several layers of engineering and... Oh wait, that right, you are. And if you can't extrapolate what I am trying to say, let me spell it out. Sometimes "the end" isnt a big bang, but a slow fade out.

[@petersimmons7833]

Almost like the behavior of a monopolist. We should check to see if anybody has labeled them as such.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@petersimmons7833 the U.S. government did.

[@printf255]

@@cameronbosch1213 that's. the joke.

[@ashtonmiller-z1n]

um no realy the us govmrment did offcaly inteh courtsof law say google is a monopoly just a day ago the same time this viedo was posted in fact.

[@phr3ui559]

ok

[@finnishview2933]

@@cameronbosch1213 U.S. gov may fine them 0,00001% of they total profit from one year. Thats what they usually do with big companies.

[@michaelc657]

Vivaldi and Cromite. Adblockers built into the browser, no need for an extension framework. Throw in a DNS service like NextDNS or running your own Adguard Home instance.

[@duckmeat4674]

Don't promote non free browsers like Vivaldi. Brave or Firefox are better choices

[@redchief94]

If they think this is going to work, they've got another thing coming. I WILL touch grass if they push me. I have a fishing pole. I can sub to nebula. I'm NOT going back to ads, and im NOT paying google a penny.

[@GSBarlev]

The sad thing: that's probably the win from Google's perspective. YT _hemorrhages_ money, and if you're blocking ads, you're probably also blocking tracking-without any way to monetize you, you're a straight loss to them in the form of the cost of serving you HD videos of Brodie shilling for Wayland.

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

Fine, though you're kind of lost in the noise to Google. You took a thimble out of the ocean.

[@ActionGamerAaron]

@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 You're right that's a great plan, we should just make defeatist posts on the internet instead!

[@VioletRM]

really stuck it to em, they'll remember that when touching grass and sneeding the good life

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

Were they getting anything from you before? This isn't about people who are vehemently anti-ad. It's for the average person who doesn't care much to begin with. When they realize you can block ads, they'll learn it would require changing their browser and think it's not worth the effort.

[@Kevin-ol5gr]

Several months ago when youtube was breaking my adblocker on Firefox, I discovered if I link the videos into Discord I could still watch ad free videos that way.

[@TanukiTracks]

Sadly that doesn't work anymore in my experience...

[@erdanxiloscient3666]

"1 minute ago" I feel like I was summoned to the new video telepathically by Brodie himself

[@no_name4796]

Nah, you are just slave to your phone and costantly switch apps to see if any new content is out Not dissing you, i am the same

[@genstian]

No, it summons at 00.00 bulgarian time.

[@theldraspneumonoultramicro405]

ad blockers is vital for security reasons, because many ads on many sites is malware infested and contain harmful spyware cookies which get force downloaded onto your system without ad blockers, blocking ad blockers is essentialy the same as blocking a anti-virus program.

[@KawekSL]

it is harmful that ublock origin have lite version (and other adblockers) as most user won't notice (or gonna have placebo effect) and google gonna have easier time "boiling frog". They should simply not support mv3 and more aggressively inform on how/what/why, also they should propose switching browser.

[@ransan]

My thoughts exactly

[@hydra3693]

going scorched earth on blink browsers will hurt uBO adoption, sadly. but they should nudge people to firefox whenever possible

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

The problem is that there are a lot of people using Chrome on locked-down PC's from work and school where they literally have no choice in what browser they use. Some organizations use specialized programs and browser extensions that are 100% reliant on Chrome to function, and lots more organizations simply have chains of command that make it painfully slow for IT departments to get approval to do shit like switch default browsers. The biggest hurdle, sadly, is that there are so many tech-unsavvy people out there using Chrome for critical work functions that many decision makers won't be able to see the benefit of switching from Chrome until it starts to personally annoy them. My hope is that because Chrome's adblocking is going to be so horribly crippled, that scummy advertisers are going to figure out these new holes fast and bum rush through these new security holes and wreak absolute fucking havoc on the Chrome version of the web, and I think this is going to happen faster than many assume.

[@robertmarder126]

I recently switched from ublock origin to the lite version, and it works fine. I just run with default settings, and so far I have noticed zero differences. I would say the vast majority of users are normal users that don't do a lot of special configuration. For them the lite version is exactly the same as the full version.

[@KiraSlith]

​@@Kevin-jb2pvThose users can't/shouldn't install adblockers anyways. Moot point.

[@inductivesoul]

I'm getting sick and tired of these evil company's gladly taking my money, and then bate and switching me with worse and worse features and services... when its a better experience to go out of my way to view content I already paid for by other means.... I'm just wasting my money, I am not getting convenience, or value for my money anymore; and I am sick of it!

[@_justnick]

The internet needs a revolution. Big corps need to pay for how they enshittified the internet. But nobody is doing anything, and the average sheep just wants to watch their cringe youtube screaming and doing rtrded faces playing games or pranking people. Even if that means watching 5 minutes of ads and getting pop-ups left and right.

[@PlayerOfCeleste]

oh no remember they aren’t evil !! “don’t be evil”!!! /j fuck google

[@maudley]

​@@_justnick I mean the EU has been doing pretty good about defending consumers.

[@JamesTDG]

Ahoy, matey

[@aaronmicalowe]

This video is bating you. ublock lite is v3 compliant and works on Chrome. The problem doesn't exist. 🤷‍♂

[@ransan]

Ok, weird idea, I don't know how well or how badly this would work but hear me out. What if as a counter-move, UBO just outright announces that they will pull out of the Chrome Web Store and unpublish both UBO and UBO Lite themselves? If the opponent's goal is to make their extension seem broken and slowly erode its reputation, then why stay????? It would be better to voluntarily leave with their reputation intact. Play hard to get, make *power users* chase you to the browsers that do support the features they want to have. Also, the normies that refuse to leave Chrome just don't matter anymore in this situation. Continuing to develop a neutered version of the extension for those people will just be a waste of resources.

[@d_9696]

They could even spin this around on Cjomium

[@TheFingerMove]

This could backfire because normies don’t think about this. They’ll just download other adblockers and call it a day instead of switching browsers.

[@jbsxyz9102]

This is the best way! Probably should also start auto-opening a web page on browser start explaining the situation to normies a few weeks before pulling from store.

[@ransan]

@@TheFingerMove I don't think getting the "normies" is the thing that matters here. It's about refusing to let the tech giant drag your image down and not wasting development time on a neutered version of the extension. In fact, I think continuing to develop UBO Lite for the "normies" that refuse to leave Chrome would be the mistake in this situation.

[@bobsinclair8990]

@@TheFingerMove Normies don't need to know, I will install Firefox and UBO on their linux systems. They wouldn't even know it's not Windows if you don't tell them.

[@IDESTROYER236]

If KZbin goes down the "server-side ads" dark path, I'm going to Vimeo or Dailymotion.

[@GraveUypo]

i tried going to other sites but... they're so barren in content :( i hate youtube and i hate google, but we need content creators to support other platforms first. and they need us to be there first. chicken and egg situation

[@dbclass4075]

​@@GraveUypoFor documentaries at least, there are Nebula and CuriosityStream. But both are subscriptions.

[@Wolf-wd9cd]

Block ads and pay creators directly. They can then move away from YT if there's enough support.

[@maxawilli7]

What about rumble

[@SirLightfire]

I've always used FF since switching from IE 11 And i'm an "adblock or die" type of person

[@foufoufun]

Same here, I never liked Chrome for the weirdest reason: the tabs are over the title bar making it annoying to move the window around. The freedom approach around plugins and lack of push for cloud features in Firefox is what made me stay.

[@aaronmicalowe]

Why do we never see people who use Chrome bug people into using Firefox? 🤔

[@otsugua77]

I'd rather stop watching youtube than having to watch multiple 2min unskippable ads back to back, it is so predatory, and having the feel of sevurity when oppening a site that you don't know changes the way you use the internet

[@Zombie_Apocalypse]

I'm not turning off my adblocker for anything. If your thing doesn't work with it, i don't care how good it is, i move on and forget about it.

[@NuclearFury8]

Ads made me not watch youtube on the phone, and maybe they'll make me not watch it on PC if they win the battle.

[@sulfur2964]

Use revanced extended or just watch it from ice raven or other Firefox fork that supports extensions. Thera other player like pipe but they are pretty meh

[@realGBx64]

You are only costing them money. They would be glad to see you leave.

[@TheBecke1983]

firefox with ublock on mobile youtube works

[@nobodyimportant7804]

YT will lose as the internet routes around damage. The best case is that YT crashes and burns but is sadly unlikely. There is room in this space for a competitor that treats the content creators and users right. KZbin has seem to have forgotten that they literally have nothing of value without content creators giving them videos to show users. KZbin creates nothing of value in and of itself.

[@crestfallensunbro6001]

greyjay is a good alternative for mobile

[@virgo113]

Remember when Google's motto was "Don't be evil"? Yeah... Me neither.

[@MrDowntemp0]

Team Librewolf! There's dozens of us!

[@dj-no]

at least 10

[@mawnkey]

We are legion!* * For certain extremely small values of "legion".

[@user-oj7uc8tw9r]

I found my wolf pack

[@YouTubdotCub]

a good chunk of us are here in the replies to your comment

[@Eggroley]

The power of one... the power of two... the power of a dozens...

[@wolfsongrising]

This is one of many reasons why I dropped Chrome a long time ago. Not only does my computer run so much better now without chrome overworking my tech, but I am enjoying an experience free of intrusive ads. SO MANY intrusive ads. Its sad really. I remember when youtube was less overrun, and I was more willing to support them then. Because it was reasonable, it helped support the content creators as well, and there was this option to skip an ad after 5-15 seconds. It made sense, and there were times I willingly let the ad play because I did appreciate the service. Now its...well, its beyond ridiculous and I'm far more willing to drop youtube than I am to go back. Not while they're using and abusing my time. I was willing once before. Now, no more. Not until they get their crap together.

[@BinaryCounter]

Typo in the thumbnail ;)

[@superflame36]

This is your final waring

[@dakingofcubes]

I DIDNT KNOW LMFAOOOO

[@gamersunite9026]

waring

[@Samu2010lolcats]

the final waring indeed 🤣

[@BrodieRobertson]

​@@Samu2010lolcatsUnintended second meaning lol

[@Roger-ws8rj]

I just used ad block on google chrome up until a couple months ago, 1 day, I logged on to KZbin and got bombarded with ADS and immediately installed Firefox and brave, and I'm happy with either of those 2. I don't think KZbin gets it, though. If I can't find a way to bypass their ads, I'll bypass youtube altogether.

[@alpacamale2909]

Why do they think people will do when their adblocker stops working? they think people will say 'well what you gonna do...?'. Are they morons? Once you go AdBlock...

[@nobodyimportant7804]

Well, KZbin is stupid enough to think I will give them a credit card number. Instead of giving YT unearned money, I put a measly $20 aside each month and split it 4 ways among the 4 channels I watched the most that month. That is not a lot of money but a hell of a lot more than those channels would get if I paid KZbin's extortion or turned off my blockers. UBO is reporting 117 things that are being blocked on this very page. That is the extent of KZbin's sleazy behavior. 30 seconds after typing 117, the items blocked count is at 123. 🖕KZbin

[@ongunkanat]

Actually yes. Most users will say "well, what you gonna do...". That's how the current form of ad-infested internet became the norm.

[@alpacamale2909]

@@ongunkanat not users that got adblockers installed

[@BrodieRobertson]

​@@alpacamale2909 technical users will look for a new solution but just think about how many people watch on mobile and just accept it

[@minilathemayhem]

Tbf, there are still numerous people rawdogging the ad-filled internet to this very day, otherwise sites would have abandoned the whole ad model eons ago, which makes the whole trying to kill off of ad extensions absurd to me. Like sure, a fraction of Google's userbase isn't contributing to their ad revenue, but... Seriously, it's such a small percentage that, does it even actually matter? I'd say it doesn't, but the greed of Google knows no bounds.

[@Raikos100]

There's too much video in my ads. -Google

[@damouze]

Proud Firefox user here, ever since its inception and of Netscape before that and I'm not planning on switching anytime soon. Used to crap out of memory and disk space on my DEC Alpha Workstation back in the day getting Firefox built for RedHat Linux 5.2 and 6.0. Ah, good times. I tried various browsers over the course of the years, but Firefox remained the one constant in spite of that.

[@cristitanase6130]

Switched to Brave 2 years ago, never looked back!

[@KernelPanic0]

Thank you for the captions! Channels ten times your size often don't even bother..

[@Kanbei11]

It's a pet peeve of mine. IMO channels over a certain size (10k subs) should require subtitles in the native language of their video. For me Tom Scott is the pinnacle of subtitles on KZbin

[@BrodieRobertson]

It's something new I'm trying out, they're being generated with Whisper and I'm manually cleaning them up so please let me know if you spot any issues

[@gibbit2k496]

They still don't get that the problem isn't the ads most people don't mind some ads, problem is the number of ads is ridiculous to the point you stop watching the content and just watch ads.

[@toby9999]

I'm getting ads that are basically scams and I'm being spammed with dog food ads when I don't like dogs.etc. none of the ads are interesting. Just annoying.

[@ImperiumLibertas]

Google found the one thing that would make me switch to a different browser. That is impressive! I've been using Chrome for over a decade at this point.

[@Rexhunterj]

Thanks for being part of the problem :)

[@ImperiumLibertas]

@@Rexhunterj yeah because going with freedom hating Firefox is any better. What should I be using IE or Safari too? Acting like there's any actual alternatives that are any better.

[@RadikAlice]

Well, in truth they were you using you. Along with all the other Chrome users

[@JathraDH]

@@Rexhunterj I still use Chrome myself because I finally switched off FF like 15+ years ago when it got so trashy it was unusable. I am simply too lazy to switch back until Chrome becomes so trashy its unusable. When that happens I will find something else.

[@saki7804]

@@JathraDH you should give Firefox another chance, it got a major upgrade in 2017 and it's actually a really good browser now, completely different from how bad it used to be

[@TheDoomsdayzoner]

I am not using Chromium browsers, so Google can shove their Manifest V3 where the sun doesn't shine.

[@MoonlightFox]

I've got high hopes for Ladybird.

[@redchief94]

Yes! I tried to use it last week but unfortunately its not there quite yet.

[@NeilHaskins]

@@redchief94 Isn't it still decidedly pre-alpha? I think they're planning for something like full functionality by 2028.

[@nobodyimportant7804]

Any project with corporate sponsors and/or a governance board will eventually become corrupt.

[@morxemplum]

@@nobodyimportant7804this is an uninformed take. The Ladybird Initiative only takes unrestricted donations, which means that they’re donations that cannot influence the company and the project has full control of how they get to use those funds. They specifically made a pledge on their website that you cannot buy influence.

[@andreimiga8101]

​@@nobodyimportant7804 And any project without these will fail if it has to compete with corporate backed alternatives

[@ThatJay283]

im on Firefox, and there's no way im ever gonna give up on blocking ads. i dont wanna have to sort through 50 different fake "download now" buttons whenever i try to download something from a website. the reason i block ads is because ads are shit, and they're even a massive computer safety risk too. if they weren't shit maybe they wouldn't be blocked so often.

[@piscinaiv7937]

This! they will spend millions to rewrite code to prevent normal users from blocking ads when what they really need to do is police their advertisers better, and close the security holes allowing malware through their ad workflows.

[@D.G.M.]

Yes, last week I noticed KZbin were testing embedding ads to the beginning of the videos. There were some weird side effects with the framing and aspect ratio of the ads and the notifications were not always on time at the end. Right now I'm back to getting the old style of ads, but who knows if they will change their mind.

[@hydra3693]

They always do the same A/B testing and then full rollout, it's a cat and mouse game for which they have billions to spend.

[@janjana3970]

I think you can skip some ads by going to end of video wait till the end and replay

[@enginear663]

You forgot to mention Firefoxs development is literally funded by Google so they don't look like a Monopoly.

[@juanmacias5922]

Sounds like having to deal with ads will be a great way for me to go without KZbin cold turkey lol

[@VoyivodaFTW1]

I have metube running on my server. I see a playlist, I have the playlist. Plus I don’t like having to be online to watch tutorials

[@juanmacias5922]

@@VoyivodaFTW1 hey thanks for sharing, this could be a great workflow for tutorials, like you mentioned.

[@TheGhostFart]

it's gonna ruin a lot more than just youtube mate

[@EvolvedWizard]

As a computer tech, I've used the philosophy of letting people use whatever browser they're most comfortable with. Now I'm gonna get everyone to switch to Firefox.

[@nathanielbass771]

brave tends to be better. Firefox is pulling the same sort of crud youtube does. They haven't gone into extensions yet, but they censor popular news among other issues.

[@keyboard_g]

Firefox, which just added on by default advertising integration and the parent company bought an ad tech company. Browsers are a hellscape.

[@20NewJourney23]

I use Brave and am happy with it. It does a great job blocking ads all over the web, keeping my browsing relatively private (as compared to other more used browsers) and has great integrations/features. I love it.

[@snowthearcticfox1]

So long as they aren't intrusive I honestly don't mind all that much, assuming they use the funds from that to improve the browser.

[@Rexhunterj]

@@snowthearcticfox1 Newsflash, they dont use it to improve the browser, they use it to line c-suite executives pockets. Thanks for being a fool though and letting the ultra-rich steal from you every day :)

[@shabadrandhawa3829]

@@snowthearcticfox1i agree, it may actually be good because Mozilla relies a lot of its funding on google

[@shabadrandhawa3829]

I hope it actually turns out good

[@Sunlight3300]

The scary part is after chrome killing the manifest v2 most the website will block all user's on Firefox for allowing blocking ads 😭

[@dltn42]

I haven't use Chrome for 3 years. First because of the memory usage at the time... now because privacy. This directly controls what I can do on my computer... and Google will increase this.

[@bendono]

Simply set up network-wide content filtering externally. The easiest and cheapest option is on a Raspberry Pi, but it can also be done on some routers and firewalls or a VM server.

[@user-oj7uc8tw9r]

This is honestly the right approach, but sometimes its unreliable. Ive done this in the past and blocking KZbin ads almost never worked with pihole unless you spend a bunch of time configuring the filters.

[@somewhat.random]

You can go "old skool" and set up a custom hosts file using the same lists that a PiHole uses right on your computer. If that happens to be your laptop you are then taking your adblocking with you everywhere you go. It's a "solution" that is almost as old as "ads". Orrr... just start using Brave. Been using it since 2019 with no complaints, and not one KZbin ad.

[@docmalitt]

Never. I will never watch ads and/or stop ad blocking. Even if I had to download the content and watch it... but no. I lived a good life, if I must watch ads non-stop, I will sail into the sunset... with short-wave radio.I have Firefox and Brave bur tbh I have also noticed something strange going on last 3 days. My sound card blocks the video and I need to restart the laptop - after month and a half of uptime last 3 days were torture. If that is what caused it. Not sure cos I am working on few other hardware projects so... will wait and see another day or two...

[@20NewJourney23]

I'm on Mac using Brave. I've not had those issues you describe. It sounds like a bad internet connection issue tbh. I've had that happen to me when my internet is having issues.

[@docmalitt]

@@20NewJourney23 I run PopOS and since changing the graphic card (from hybrid to Nvidia) on my laptop it's much better - just cannot leave it on overnight. Plus am watching YT on Firefox exclusively. Improvement, but not yet solution. At least I don't have to restart my machine every hour - it was that bad. thx

[@JamesTDG]

This sounds pretty familiar

[@slaapliedje]

Back to the Amiga with IBrowse it is! Most of the modern ads don't work on it anyhow!

[@alzarpomario889]

Firefox user here, one of the main reasons google can do this is because FF is so bad at handling online video conferencing. The handle of the stream is still a mess and they waste money on stupid features rather than fix feature that the users actually need.

[@gorak9000]

I switched back to Firefox about 6 or 7 years ago now - I could tell Chrome was going downhill, and firefox had their memory eating issues solved. It's been pretty smooth sailing

[@KayloGL]

High IQ move: Watch every video in MPV with an ad blocking plugin.

[@rustymustard7798]

Freetube, and use libredirect to open video links in FT

[@complexity5545]

Most regular surfers don't know that and they don't know what MPV is. MPV is what all the video editors and programmers use. Its my main driver since 2005, so I can tap `i` and look at the compression and codecs. I also use a firewall and DNS that blocks all ads. You can use chrome all day on my network and never get hit with an ad. We do this because most viruses and nefarious backdoors come disguised as advertisments and then cloaked as emails. Just block it all, at the NIC packet level.

[@drawerganizer785]

MPV can also get the premium bitrate version. ;)

[@dragonmaster1360]

Just a fair warning to all people switching: Firefox is not without its problems. It has a HORRIBLE memory like problem, and if you EVER exceep the maximum memory usage the Android operating system allows for an app, the browser will literally hold your information hostage, because you will literally be UNABLE to open it without it crashing. Like, hard crashing, error code and all. I stopped using it because I was tired of the app reaching that point quicker and quicker each time it happened, no matter what I did to remedy it. The only fix for it is a clean install, without carrying over your data like logins etc, because the more information it has to handle, the closer it gets to reaching that critical failure point. Firefox is no longer a guaranteed fix to this problem.

[@xaracen7207]

the true way of dealing with this is to boycott ads publicly shame the companies BUYING the ads for shoving their worthless crap in your face on your time with your bandwidth. the thing is, EVERYONE needs to do that, simultaneously, endlessly. without remorse.

[@bartomolev6682]

Fuck it, preform cyber atacks

[@xaracen7207]

@@bartomolev6682 sadly no, crimes will only make who you oppose feel justified, and it makes you stink to your opponents, look at just stop oil and extinction rebellion, look at how being terrible did terrible things for their misplaced cause.

[@bartomolev6682]

@@xaracen7207 fair, but there still needs to be some kind of pressure on them. And something to threaten their wallet otherwise they will just ignore us all and continue like nothing happened

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

I had two 15 second unskippable ads before the video played

[@memetic_hazard]

I stayed on Chrome a bit longer when they announced a delay in manifest v3, but a few months back when the deadline was coming up and they didn't announce any further delays, I swapped to Firefox on my desktop. Then I even swapped to Firefox on my phone. I still have a Chromebook that I occasionally use with a few dozen Chrome tabs saved up... Guess it's about time to migrate that too.

[@RichHeart89]

A couple of years ago I decided to just give up on ad blocking completely as I saw the writing on the wall and thought it's gonna be over soon. It has actually taken a lot longer to get where we're going to now than I thought but I'm kinda glad that I'm now pretty much completely unbothered by ads. Sure platforms are more aggressive than ever with their targeted ads but many places are much more mindful of how they display ads. Less annoying popups, sneaky redirects or opening ads into new tabs. I don't know how "!adult sites" operate nowadays - I'd assume they're worse - but on the regular safe for work side of the internet life with ads seems more tolerable these days.

[@TheMerauder75]

Finally made the switch after seeing this video, no joke. I was planning on doing it anyway, but manifest v2 removal really was the last straw for me.

[@pinkie723]

What options are there for Chromebook users though? I'm not sure if you even can install anything other then Chrome on a Chromebook?

[@LordNecron]

I think once you went to a Chromebook, you might consider yourself truly lost to mankind.

[@TheGhostFart]

you dump the chromebook and get a regular laptop, if it's for school/work you're SOL

[@pinkie723]

@@LordNecron The main reason I got a Chromebook is to natively run Android apps on a laptop (which is nice but admittedly not that useful most of the time). And they're nice light weight laptops if all you need a computer for is using a web browser. Why turn on my expensive gaming computer just to watch KZbin or Netflix when my Chromebook can do those things just fine with far fewer resources and save my gaming computer from needlessly getting worn out?

[@JamesTDG]

Lol, jailbreaking a chromebook is EASY

[@Alche_mist]

@@LordNecron They might be forced. For example, quite a lot of schools use Chromebooks as their "one and only solution".

[@deadturret4049]

Google has a real competency problem. They're targeting a symptom of their ad block problem instead of actually treating the cause. Most people probably use uBlock and AdBlock primarily because of youtube. Google should instead just add more value to youtube premium. Bring back youtube originals, give premium users app skins, advanced search, etc. All they're doing instead is driving up the need for a real youtube competitor.

[@garrick3727]

I've almost switched to YT Premium several times, but there's no value add. I have YT on my iPhone and I cannot block ads. I don't like the ads but it's not worth the cost of YT Premium to get rid of them. Premium needs something else.

[@WooShell]

I don't get why people are still running Chrome, and why Firefox has dropped to like 3% of market share, when Google has been pulling that anti-consumer shit for literally a decade..

[@SamuTheFrog]

Switched to firefox about 6 months ago & it was such a freeing experience. It's actually kinda crazy how firefox was my original browser, and then switched to chrome, and now ive gone full circle and ended up back on firefox.

[@HamidKarzai]

i always suspected google might do something like this. good thing i never liked chrome enough to switch to it

[@XhodanXeus]

what do you mean stop? how can i stop something that i have never started? iv been using firefox since early releases never had problems or issues. i keep saying use firefox

[@gobleno]

I personally used Microsoft Edge until it became clear that they would no long be supporting Manifest v2, at that point I switched to Firefox and only kept Edge around for PWA's and Copilot. Especially on Linux I need a browser that supports PWA's and Firefox doesn't, so I need to keep something else around, so it was nice to hear that they do some form of content blocking by default on Edge.

[@ZeelofTheMarty]

I am 34 and I have been using Firefox since I was still a teenager nothing is gone change for me it seems.

[@murlock666]

Pihole at dns level. 800k blocklist. Firefox and UBo at the desktop level.

[@nostalgicumbry3279]

One day KZbin is goin to make it so content creators will have to manually put the ads in their videos in order to upload a video and find a way that that specific part CANNOT be skipped without youtube red

[@adjusted-bunny]

I have been using firefox for quite a while . I used others but I always come back to firefox.

[@danieltaylor4185]

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that my problem is less about ads, and more about tracking. I understand by the nature of KZbin, there is going to be some level of tracking because it is a service owned by Google. Where I draw the line is when Google has an encyclopedic knowledge of every single website I've browsed, every purchase I've made, and every conversation I've had. This tracking is baked into ads. So, if I don't want the data collected, not seeing ads is just a side-effect.

[@nezu_cc]

Laughs in the ExtensionManifestV2Availability enterprise policy (aka single config file). UBO will still work for over a year ;)

[@mollthecoder]

Thanks for this comment. When I can no longer use adblockers, I will definitely switch to Firefox, but Firefox has some disadvantages that I want to delay having to deal with.

[@hydra3693]

@@mollthecoder The only "disadvantage" for me is lack of WebHID, which I use only when the planets align. Also some Google sites are accused of intentionally crippling performance on Firefox.

[@yigitorhan7654]

@@mollthecoder Would you mind telling what those disadvantages are for you? I'm curious about different POVs.

[@GraveUypo]

@@yigitorhan7654 probably integration to his workflow. because feature-wise, it really doesn't have any significant disadvantages, and has a few advantages too

[@HUEHUEUHEPony]

Firefox extension are nonsense

[@donkeyking475]

Honestly, if they inject ads into the video stream and I can't skip them...F them YES I CAN. Remember PVRs? Record TV and skip the commercials. I can just download it and skip the ads.

[@greyed]

Final Waring? :D

[@GSBarlev]

Final warring-get your halberds and katanas ready.

[@apIthletIcc]

What's crazy is we get ads absolutely rocketed up the ass, and then 90 percent of said ads are just tik Tok and temu .. Seems like something ain't right about that 🤔

[@The_WJC]

*Sighs in Firefox*

[@Sodisna]

'Boil the frog" So, what Apple does with older generations of iPhones.

[@rog2224]

Google was slowly driving me away from Chrome by actively making the UI worse and worse for months - this is the final straw. When it breaks uBlock Origin, I'm downloading my passwords and migrating my bookmarks to Firefox (I've already set up the addons/extensions in FF with the correct version, or a close equivalent) Took me less than 20 minutes.

[@darkrajin3648]

I personally swap between three different browsers. I use Google Chrome on my phone to read some light novels. I use Tor plus VPN for some stuff that I like to keep private, and I use firefox mainly on my pc. Although I usually use Chrome on PC purely for paying bills.

[@Zenless260]

SOLUTION: RUMBLE

[@FreerunMediaService]

The only way to remove the large amount of commercials is getting paid for it. So when you get ads on the website you see, they need to pay up. It's your data that is used an targeted.

[@sush7117]

adblocking doesn't have to be done in a browser. Any firewall/DNS-proxy with blacklist will get the job done. Yes, it's harder to set up but it is what it is

[@lordhighbinary2006]

Those don't affect KZbin ads, or similar video streaming ads. Source: I run both DNS blocker, https pixel server, still need browser ad blocking for everything else.

[@Galileocrafter]

while true, this doesn't stop KZbin-Ads. On device blocking, where you can access the page directly, is and will be better every time.

[@snap_oversteer]

Except you can't do element blocking with DNS filtering

[@arcaegecengiz]

Not really... those cannot inject code into webpages (or at least HTTPS pages) so they cannot block ads that aren't hosted on a separate ad server, for example youtube ads are served from youtube servers so they can't be blocked without blocking the entirety of youtube. I guess some MITM proxy setup with custom ssl certificates installed on the system could maybe work but there isn't any software that I know of that can do that

[@lordhighbinary2006]

@@arcaegecengiz Actually, just finished reading about how somebody did just that: setting up a proxy system to basically filter out the traffic and adjust it in real-time to remove the video ads. Granted CPU computation was a bit heavy though, nothing terrible, but forget using it on your wifi router.

[@HIVELY26]

I switched from chrome to firefox the moment they announced manifest v3 some time ago. Since then I've blocked 750,000+ ads. The moment youtube successfully kills off adblockers, I don't think I'll be able to stay on the platform. I whitelist content creators I think are worth watching ads for, but there's so much garbage on the platform I couldn't stand it. Especially with there being 60 second MIDROLL ads. I first started using adblockers when they introduced midroll ads in the first place. It's horrendous to see how bad they've gotten over the years.

[@michaell.8748]

1 views 9 likes bro has fallen up

[@MaoRatto]

Bro must go into the trash.

[@jwhite5008]

A lot of websites pleaded to disable adblocker there. I did only to reenable it in less then a day, every time. Most ads I've seen (while adblock is disabled) are mental abuse promoting dishonesty or scam. Either veto the ads to be at least 1000 times more honest, or I consider whoever wants me to disable adblock a criminal. Actually don't bother, the only thing I do from the ads is remember to avoid the advertised product and look for alternatives. If something needs to be advertised then it's probably worse then the alternatives and has to compensate. Advertisements were supposed to inform people of offers they are unaware of but could be beneficial to them. Instead *all* of the ads now are brainwashing, and none of the really good or useful things ever appears on the ads. People need to invent a different mechanism for product awareness - ads don't do it anymore.

[@sprinklednights]

NPCs be like: Hmmm no.

[@MadBiker-vj5qj]

Running the Linux version of Brave in the Linux container on my Chromebook. Seems fine so far, haven't seen an advert for months.

[@xperience-evolution]

I trust in Brave

[@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV]

5:57 Who still uses or cares about ghostery? They're owned by Burda Media, a german publisher. They have a massive conflict of interest. German publishers have been trying very hard to sue or regulate ad blockers out of existence. In 2018 they added ads to Ghostery itself.

[@BPond7]

Chrome users in 2024 deserve all the ads.

[@amitalia2571]

(On firefox and edge) What needs to happen is that there needs to be a shift towards doing banner ads only, or banner ads and 1short ad at the end of the video you are watching (certain causes get more time). I see space on the left and right of these video pages. Scoot stuff over to the left and put in banner ads on the right next to video suggestions. Keep them non-animated (again, certain causes get exceptions) and most definitely without sounds. Or hell, do a mini ad-player or something instead of the banner ads (again no sound) so it stops ruining the videos these content creators come out with. There can be co-existence without either suffering.