Stop Upgrading Every Year! (Avoid the 4060 Ti)

[@Nattraks]

You are right, it's about the games. A lot of people lost sight of that and go buy $2500 builds to browse steam libraries and youtube all day.

[@kelvinsullivan1126]

2500 PC and a 1080p monitor😂

[@klemziusklm7248]

u got me :D ... spent 2.5 and playing age of empires hahah. but its true i didn't but PC for like 10 years + so i was eligible ...

[@thepicard83]

Guilty. I bought an RTX 4070 and guess what. All I do is browsing the internet and watching youtube. Maybe it is the feeling that you need to have it but really don`t use it. They sort of make you believe that you need it. They want you to thirst for it. When you buy it, it ends up sitting there. I do play but not that often.

[@fafa1648]

Guilty. I spent $2k a year ago on a really decent 1440p setup. And of course, I ended up playing old games in the spare time I have. But to be fair, it's mostly due to lack of time over anything else.

[@masterkc]

what about people who spend $1000 on a phone every year just to go on instagram and KZbin 😅

[@matklm]

One month ago, I sold my computer (3080 and high-end monitor). I bought a steam deck and a second-hand Thinkpad. I play to a lot of ps2 games now. I am happy with my decision

[@teksyndicate]

People get caught in the hype of all the new shiny games so much that they forget the classics or the black log of amazing games. I spent most of last year catching up on some old FPS games and playing SNES games on my TV... and I was way happier indeed.

[@ravenovatechnologies6554]

Hell yeah! My collection of ps1 and ps2 games are ever growing, because in my opinion, that was the golden Era of gaming. Enjoy!

[@siyzerix]

@@teksyndicate I think something that gets overlooked so much, is how new games literally don't look much better AND run so badly. So badly infact, they might not even use your GPU fully. So whats the point of upgrading then? I've seen UE5 game graphics and they are the real next gen graphics which 99.999% of games don't have. And trust me, the UE5 games will take a good 5-7 years to properly be optimized and hardware will be able to run them. Oh and do try distance. That is the best arcade racer I've seen because its so versatile having a car that flies and goes on walls and on a track, etc. The music is very dope as well and it runs very well. Best description is a combination between trackmania and mirror's edge and even that is not fully describing it.

[@YourPalHDee]

Yeah man, I've been massively happier with older games recently. It seems like the golden age of gaming is completely over now.

[@HiddenAdept]

Yeah never had a PS2 back in the day (had a gamecube and xbox and having a tonne of fun emulating PS2 games, playing through Tenchu: Wrath Of Heaven right now and loving it (sick soundtrack!)

[@sitordan]

I only upgrade every 5-6 years and it has suited me fine so far.

[@Machistmo]

I bought a 7900XT in December and have not installed it yet as the 6900XT I have works just fine. Feel stupid for having bought it.

[@dimitriid]

I'm willing to stop upgrading gpus, full stop: I'm sure for many people they won't be able to resist but almost all AAA releases for the last solid 3 years have been massive let downs: rushed ports, hilariously broken, super generic, etc. My point being that most of the games I *really* want to play with are indies that are perfectly playable on modern APUs. So, since a 6800u is already really powerful and we're about to get 7840u system that jump ahead even more I honestly don't think I need GPUs any more: might even get rid of my current rig in favor of a laptop specially if I can dock to an external GPU if I ever want to revisit something 'demanding' but it's infrequent enough that I probably wouldn't need to.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

About 4 years ago I upgraded to a 4th gen quad core Intel Core i7 from a Core 2 Duo, and even that is more power than I'll ever need. The thing about people who keep upgrading is, they don't appreciate what they have or even own a component long enough to truly know what it can do.

[@matslarsson5988]

I really liked this video. I've been one of those upgrade slaves. But Im slowing breaking free. I dont know how many CPU upgrades ive made that on paper and benchmarks have looked awesome but in practical use theres no real difference. The biggest example of this was when I went from the first Core2Duo processor to the last they ever made. Dont remember the numbers.. But I didnt notice any difference at all. None. But man, those benchmarks were sweet... Kind of... 100% wasted money. I used to upgrade my Samsung phone to the latest and greatest for years and in the beginning it actually made a difference. But somewhere at the upgrade from Samsung Galaxy S9+ to S10+ I realised that all Im doing is wasting money. Your game looks really interesting. Will definitely have my eyes on it until release. Good luck with it!

[@edmac1090]

I identify really hard with this. I built a new PC every generation of Ryzen, and snapped out of it after I upgraded my 3900X to a 5950X and felt… nothing improved. Sure on paper it stomped my old processor, but in my use case? I can’t really do anything I couldn’t before. Sure it’s a bit faster than before, but it’s not significant. Regrets abound.

[@Twiggithy]

The hardware updates to PCs are a great pro, but definitely a con people (richer than me) can fall into. What has worked for me both financially and functionally is to update with the new console generations. That usually places it about once every 10 years. Plenty of time to put money aside.

[@m1natoh1nata]

upgrade when gpu is a solid 2-3x perf for THE SAME PRICE (without dlss obviously) ie r9 290 -> vega56 -> rx 6800 Cpu wise, increase in core count or a solid increase in ipc ie ton of cache lol

[@Lennox032]

Totally agree with this, I've had a RTX 3080 and spent most of the time playing a modded Morrowind! Sold it quite happy just using a RX 570 playing indie games, Gameplay is more important than ray tracing and graphics.

[@SunderMecha]

I'm relatively new to your channel, but I love your content. You're a great creator! Thank you for your consistent logical views on things.

[@thebootknifer]

I went from a Radeon 5750, to a 280/380x. Then a 1070. I've had very few graphics cards, it feels great to upgrade.every 5 years.

[@YourPalHDee]

Man, I completely forgot about the 290X etc. That was the best value for money I ever got from any card.

[@Lovell_00]

Well said and solid list of recommendations. I've been gaming on a GTX970 and it's good enough to play most games at playable frame rates including cyberpunk. And I'm okay with sacrificing graphics for gameplay. Though I am working on a future proof build because I would like to do more with my PC than play games.

[@ThisOldChris]

I only upgrade when I have an annoying lack of performance in some application or game. And it takes a lot to annoy me when there is this much money involved... (and a lot more expensive in Canada...) I now have a Ryzen 9 and 3080ti and before I had an i7 2700K and a 980ti... lol

[@Kujokouklos]

RYZEN 3700X and Radeon 6600 with 32 gigs of RAM are here to stay for years to come. Found playing DUSK and the Zandronum version of DOOM, HEXEN and HERETIC more fun that these new AAA games, sorry, transaction infested alpha releases of doom.

[@helloimatapir]

My i5-4670K paired with an RX 570 still play every game I throw at it with respectable settings. The CPU is 10 years old at this point and keeps chugging along.

[@sourcedasher]

>4c4t

[@Geigez]

Been rockin the 1080ti for 7 years now! Thing is a tank

[@SignalJones]

I just upgraded from an AM3+ FX8320 after a decade. I went to a 7950x because I do CAD and simulators that are very CPU heavy. I'm still using a 6gb 1660Ti. I'll going to need to upgrade that soon because it's not keeping up in a lot of the titles I like to play anymore.

[@Kaffarov97]

I'm finally moving on from my 4790K to something newer, it's served me well the last 8 years. PC components seem to be so much more expensive compared to what they were years ago and can hardly justify the price increase for what I use my PC for these days. I wish there were more level headed takes like this and people resist the hyper consumerism that plagues today society.

[@sourcedasher]

Used 9900/10900k is $250-300. Used 2080 ti is $350-400. Knock yourself out.

[@233kosta]

My 3770K is still going strong, but the board seems to be on its last legs 😢

[@sourcedasher]

@@233kosta "going strong". DDR3 CPUs have been struggling since the late 2010s. Unless you're okay with your CPU pegging at 100% nearly all the time and having a horrible experience because of it.

[@233kosta]

@@sourcedasher She sits at 4.5 with an undervolt and a water block on top. It's the 970 that's struggling to keep up 🤣

[@Machistmo]

I see this a lot with Intel owners as they learned, like Pavlov's Dog, so long ago that upgrading was expensive and yielded little to no real world performance. Intel: The only real choice from 2000 to 2018. Thanks AMD. Lets face it 5 to 7% at best year over year, generation to generation was never anything to get excited about. So you changed your thinking, at least I did, to look what I can still do with my 4th generation Intel. I gave away my Original I-7 920K system and I wish I had not done that.

[@DatAznGuy59]

I am glad to hear this. Because I too thought to myself "Why I am spending so much money upgrading? It never ends!" I stopped years ago after my group of PC gamers kept one upping each other when it came to computer parts. I was loosing money man! Keeping up with them! I eventually fell behind, and became the butt of the jokes in my group. I got promoted to manager in the IT department and I said "Now I can afford the parts!" But I found myself being too busy to enjoy it. This lead me to having Anxiety and Depression. I ended up quitting my job and hung out with a different group of friends. I just became a console guy. I have recently thought about getting a laptop so I can play all the retro games and mods I missed out on. I don't think I will go back to custom PC. Just because I am happy with investing my money in my kids now :) Best of luck to everyone dealing with this. And thanks for sharing.

[@michaelthompson9798]

5:00 HROT, the new ‘50 Shades of …… brown’ ahahaha 😅😂🤣😛

[@jc_dogen]

my 1070 still runs everything worthwhile. got it for free too lol

[@tiagomorgado3798]

An underated card

[@scifi_shop]

1080ti will blow your mind

[@jc_dogen]

@@scifi_shop yeah but probably not worth the cost

[@Whoadayson]

GAS - a tough illness to beat, but it is possible! Thanks for the encouragement

[@djtribo8925]

Still running a Ryzen 1700 with a 1070, I am still solid! Appreciate this Logan!

[@ZenoGy]

The trap these days appears to be the word "bottlenecking ". Have to consider "system balance ", apparently . My 4790k is strangling my 1080ti even . But to me its still adequate for what I play . Anyway , thanks for being a differing perspective on a subject rarely mentioned . Cheers mate .

[@YourPalHDee]

This idea that we HAVE to play games at 4K 60fps. It's completely wild. I've had friends spend THOUSANDS on systems that were out of date 6 months later.

[@Lancaster604]

Ever since I started binging LTT content, all the constant consumption of tech content suddenly just gave me this overwhelming desire to build a brand new rig even though I'm playing old games that's 5...10...some even 20 years old and the rig I have works just fine.

[@seancsnm]

Since I was a kid I've upgraded every 5-7 years and it's gonna stay that way. Actually I might extend it to 10 years if Microsoft lets me. Rocking a 1080 Ti right now and that's the most spoiled I've ever been. It feels like the 10xx series cards were about when the upgrade hype died.

[@sonytest5601]

True! I've fallen in this trap many times before. Prices today are unbearable for me. Even the lowend stuff. For me I found that its best to access what I use my pc for and buy only what I need today and in the near future. Do not overspend in hopes of "futureproofing".

[@dandrevs]

1080ti here. Planning to keep it for few more years probably unless I find a good deal on 6800xt. I'm struggling a bit with CP2077.

[@commanderoof4578]

Dont upgrade because something new comes out, upgrade only when you need to For example i have a 5600X 64GB system with a 3090, 2x 2TB NVMe 3.0 drives Only the CPU and GPU have been changed since i built it, R5 2600 to the 5600X and the GPU my 1070 died so i bought the 3090 as soon after launch as i could My storage is due for an upgrade as im out of space and have been going on 2 years A nice thing to upgrade would be the CPU to a 5800X3D along with the storage, but i would also buy a motherboard along with it and make a second PC If given the choice between a £1000 and a 3090 or a 4090 i would pick the 3090 every day of the week

[@Ace1000ks19751982]

Upgrading your graphics card every time a new one comes out is a complete waste of money. You also have people who upgrade their smartphones when a new one is released even when they don't have to. I guess some people have money to burn, and consumerism in hardwired in some people.

[@kardondo]

Quit PC gaming in 2010 when my GTX260 died on me, these were for avg $280 on Newegg. When I saw the reveal of Dead Space Remake in august 2021, I bought a zephyris g14 with a RTX3060, hooked to a 32 monitor and I’m a very happy man.I think that the 4060 is yet another cashgrab.

[@mopeybloke]

I'm glad I can see Logan's face in the appropriate number of pixels and frames.

[@Safetytrousers]

I went 780, 780ti, 980, 980 ti, 1080, 1080ti, 2080ti, 3090. Until the 2080ti I could sell the previous GPU for 2/3 the cost of the next one. The sequence has now stopped.

[@kookiespace]

When I was a kid my dad would mute ads on the TV whenever we were watching something and if I complained or said I'd want to watch one of them he'd be very stern and say "No, because ads just shit in your head" and uuuuuh. That definitely left an impression on me. Not the best dad but definitely good in this regard :D Anyway, I built a top of the line computer in 2017. I added another 16GB of RAM at some point for work stuff. But I don't think I'm gonna have to change my CPU (Ryzen 1700X) or GPU (Vega 64) for at least another 5 years.

[@jgbelmont]

Fully agree. Running a WELL used Windforce 2070 super. It will overclock like you would not believe. But why? It plays everything well. Long time fan. Keep up the great logical and informative videos.

[@RandyHanley]

Woah, that first game looks sweet! It immediately made me flash back to Quake 1 / Half-Life times. I already have to buy that! Thank you.

[@YourPalHDee]

Yeah, I have a 3060Ti and the odds of me requiring an upgrade any time in the next decade are honestly very low.

[@Zam432F]

The intro😂🤣😂🤣 You said it brother.

[@awepizza]

As someone with a 3070 and upgraded to an OLED 42 4k im still doing fine with DLSS performance. Games look native and the only thing that might hold me back in the future is the damn vram. Also my card is 2y old, still waiting for a game that actually makes me want to get a new card.

[@nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365]

Basically, when your needs are not met or no longer being met from your current hardware then you should upgrade. For example: some people are fine with playing a game like Call Of Duty stepped down to low settings to get high fps and low latency. They don’t care about fidelity. Some people either want to keep high fidelity/low latency but also achieve higher frame rates would be a reason to upgrade. Or they care about fidelity and FPS is not a concern but increasing graphics quality usually means taxing a GPU more so you buy a better GPU for more headroom. There’s so many ways to think about this but yeah. Basically if your needs are not being met and you aren’t personally satisfied you should upgrade regardless of what other people think.

[@astralcactus]

Im still on a 7700k 1070Ti gaming 1080p (and okay with it)... and every time im in that "hmmmm buy buy buy" phase; have those items in the cart about to check out..... i ask myself.... "Does your current setup do what you need it to do, does it perform the tasks that you do without any issue and why are you upgrading??" With this method.... I am still on a 7700k/1070Ti..... But to extend on this... lets say that I do upgrade to a current gen CPU and high end GPU.... Now I have justification to game above 1080p so that means a new monitor...... so its really a never ending chain if you cant control yourself TBH

[@adad.]

For anyone looking for a good horror game to run on a weaker pc, the latest amnesia seems to be pretty good even with integrated graphics. I've been running it on my laptop with intel uhd 620 with decent quality at a consistent 30fps.

[@jonnymars7164]

Fuck man I missed you bro. This guy got me into pc gaming specifically Crysis original... And how to get a proper graphics card... Many thanks Logan son...lol Hopefully youtube send me your content again.

[@FM-ve2kl]

coming from someone who has pushed their i5 2500k for almost 10years before upgrading, I think I'm good on resisting tech-tation :D ps. the i5 2500k still works and will be going into a early 2010 retro build I plan to do in the not so near future current specs: intel 10700k 10th gen asus ROG z-490F gigabyte RX 6800 corsair 16gb dd4 ram 3200mhz xpg 2tb m.2 pci-e 3.0 SSD

[@AdventurerPrimefire]

I used my I5-2550k for so long. The single core was still functional for gaming but I wanted more cores for other stuff. I love to play on a well used pc, as long as you don't push it core electronics last a long time.

[@YourPalHDee]

Sandy Bridge was just a total game changer at the time. It's insane how long that CPU has held on.

[@siyzerix]

I basically bought a 3070ti 150w GPU laptop because of modded skyrim se and running elden ring properly at 1440p. Same with RDR2 and other stuff. Also so it'll run games well enough for years to come. At least 4-5 years.

[@toyotapower100]

I upgraded from a gtx 1660ti to a RX6700XT My processor is a amd Ryzen 2600 Maby ill go to a 5700x or 5800x Whit water cooling, But to me thats a 8 / 10 year upgrade. I mostly play older games, some are newer titles like Forza Horizon 5

[@chrisbullock6477]

Had a 2080ti/8700K Until upgrading this year to 7950X / 790XTX and I'll run this until 2026. The gift to being an adult with a fully developed brain

[@Samuell8]

That intro was magical.

[@Samuell8]

Couldn't find the song, what's the name?

[@enescustovic1883]

I dunno, I did kinda HAVE to get a 3080 to play modded skyrim in 4k at 120hz on my TV. But that upgrade from last year will be the last upgrade I need for about 7 years lol

[@Lukiel666]

I am on a 3200G running on the integrated graphics. WoW, POE, some GOG games and Diablo 2 remastered.

[@TheHangarHobbit]

Oh I just wanted to add I'd used your code and the whokeys guys are super nice, they give you a step by step on doing an in-place upgrade from Win 10 Home to Pro along with a special temp key for doing so, it was super handy and worked like a charm!

[@badass6300]

Get a 200-210$ RX 6600 or 280$ RX 6700 or 320-330$ 6700XT that's what I'd recommend.

[@zombiekohhi3586]

@Tek Syndicate If you had a Ryzen 5 5600x and a RTX 2060 Super what would you upgrade your GPU to for 1440p gaming?

[@isekaiguy69]

I feel upgrading is a very expensive habit and as you said a seed of desire. cpus and gpus from 2020 especially literally was a major leap in tech, and if you maintain the components it will definitely last a lil over 5 years.

[@avflashback8913]

I agree with Logan 100%. I'm still running a 1st Gen I7 Extreme CPU wth a GTX 750 Ti GPU. I built it 11 years ago. It plays AAA games perfectly fine and most of the time at 60 fps. My OS is limiting me more than my PC hardware as I refuse to upgrade from Windows 7. My View is if you're going to spend $1000 on PC parts to play games just buy a games console instead.

[@One_Call_System]

1080TI still going strong. I can play most of my games, the only one I can't play is Metro exodus enhanced edition because I don't have the right components or something in my setup. I guess I shoulda bought the regular version and I forgot I could refund at the time lol

[@m00nd95]

i've always skipped a generation when it comes to graphics cards. used to have a 1060 6gb now I have a 3060. i'm starting to think that even that's excessive now. there used to be such a massive difference between graphics cards generations but now it means very little, more ray tracing? more fps? 4k? I don't use ray tracing and i use a 1080p monitor anyway.

[@itsdeonlol]

Thanks for this! Finally someone who gets it!

[@lettmons]

You might want to look at steam hardware surveys - the vast majority of people use budget and mid range cards and don't plan on upgrading.

[@BootedTech]

Still rocking my 1080Ti, still serves me well and have not seen a need to upgrade.

[@Question3verything]

I have just upgraded my 1650 super to a Arc A770 Predator BiFrost- as i cover a lot of simulation games and my GPU was struggling to play and stream with a decent frame rate... I couldn't be happier.. It handles all my games, even cyberpunk set to high and gives a decent 60-80FPS It cost me £300 and will see me for the next few years minimum... the ONLY drawback I have seen so far is it doesn't support my Oculus VR yet But i agree, I hadn't upgraded for years until now but it's a small step up.. not a £1200 4090 card

[@mega-kitsu]

Happily blasting through Diablo 4 at the moment on my 1660Ti, I really need to pick up HROT!

[@hunterd2467]

Im not into fake frames thats why I didn’t buy and too expensive. Im just into single player and horror games. If i can have 1440p, ultra settings, triple frames, good VR in any game im good

[@mudzibaba]

To take a rest from watching 3060 Ti, 3070, 4060 Ti copmarisonsm, thinking I might even need 4070 and searching for used GPUs I decided to check Tek Syndicate and he's like buy "3060 Ti used". It's a sign.

[@goodoldelrey]

I'm rocking a Ryzen 1700x and a GTX 970 with a 1440p monitor, and the bulk of my favorite games are either old or indie.

[@jeziel675]

Point in case: Zelda, TOTK runs on the potato switch and is very likely game of the year. You don't need the newest gear to enjoy epic games.

[@kb470]

Switch isn't a potato. It does what it needs to do :/

[@thenetpagan]

I get where you are coming from, although I did upgrade from a GTX 1070 to RTX 4070 last month (I think that's the sweet spot) from me it wasn't that expensive to get the new card (like 10% more for what I paid for my GTX 1070) plus I got Diablo 4 with my purchase which I'm currently playing on my LG C2 TV I haven't had this much fun in a while. But I totally get it, I'm not into retro gaming but I'm into indie gaming and for either you don't need the latest and greatest. Everybody was bitching about the 4070 but in my country, electricity can get expensive really fast. That's why I upgraded to that card instead of RX 7900 XT that consumes more than my microwave for extended periods of time. Every single KZbinr missed this point. At least for me, between these 2 cards, the difference between these two cards is paying double or more on my electric bill each month. Same goes for legacy gear for retro gaming.

[@TheHangarHobbit]

LOL as someone who upgraded in Feb from an RX 580 8GB to a 6650XT and have had no issues playing any game I wanted? preaching to the choir my dude. That said I did upgrade from an R5 3600 to a 5700x and from 16GB to 32Gb because I cannot resist a damn good sale, just as I'm about to replace my A320 mobo with a B550 Phantom Gaming, couldn't turn down the price.

[@cannedmilk]

Thanks! I’m still using a 2060 Super with my 1440p monitor that I had for like 6 years. So far so good. I even would consider going to a 1080p screen.

[@allendale1]

Sounds blurry

[@ezelegui7901]

is worth upgrading if i have a 1660ti ?

[@SplosionMovies]

I keep looking to upgrade from my 1070 Ti, but I play nearly exclusively 3 games on my computer and it runs them all. 1: Forza 5, turn down the settings a smidgeon and we’re golden 2: Gungeon, crank it, we good 3: Arkham Knight, a smidgeon of pigeon and we gamin

[@dragonsystems5973]

Honestly, I enjoy older hardware and newer hardware. I enjoy playing with the latest and greatest, and I love pushing the limit on what older stuff can do. You can run most of the latest games at low to medium settings, even "hardware melting" titles, talking Cyberpunk 2077, Jedi Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy, on an i7 4790 with a GTX 980 Ti. That is a build that a mildly resourceful person can make happen for $500 or less... much much less. My primary gaming PC is an i9 12900K with a 4090, I love that damn thing, HOWEVER, at this exact moment I have the 4090 pulled out and I am testing a GTX 980 Ti, im pushing that card to its absolute limit. Ive also got a 6700K with a 1070 sitting on top of a board box on my deskt that I have been playing Cyberpunk on at 1440p/medium settings for the last 3 days while I wait for a case and PSU for the build, and im having just as much fun as I do on my 12900K build... I have zero problem with consumerism, the problem is that I think it has gotten to the point that desire for "next thing" is blinding people to what "next thing" can do and how much fun "last thing" can still provide. No one with an i7 4790K and a 1070 should have any desire to upgrade if they are still having fun with it. I have multiple friends who have tried to buy some of my higher end builds I have for sale and I flat out tell them "no" you are having tons of fun on your games with what you have now, you dont need this.

[@233kosta]

I've been running the same old 3770K on a Maximus V Formula for the past 10 years. The chip has sat at 4.5 since day one (on water) and is going strong, but I can just feel that the board is on its last legs. 'Twas a good run, but it's time to move on. Maybe this year, maybe next.

[@markdavenportjr5129]

ya I'll stick to my 3080 12gb card for a long while. :)

[@farouq1983]

Haven't upgraded since 2013. My 3 SLI GTX Titans and 64Gigs of DDR3 RAMs are serving me just fine.

[@Focusrallylabs]

I upgraded from a gtx 680 from 2013 to a gtx 1660 super in summer 2020 to play bfV better. I wanted to get a 3080 when the prices fell and they have. but you know what bf 2042 runs great on the 1660. so i have no reason to spend 600-800$ to play one game with twice the frames. not worth it. I get 70ish at 1440p low. p good if you ask me. the 1660 was only $260 when i bought it

[@SubmaxSubrose]

Totally agreed! I was also on the "I want a 4060ti 16gb" bandwagon ...until I saw the Review of GN and I though "wft i'm doing, my 3070ti runs everything just fine!". Its amazing how the marketing cr*p gets into our mind. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and also the indie recommendations!

[@_ch1pset]

Halt and Catch Fire was such a good show. I know it glamorizes the engineering process, but damn, it really is fun and exciting when you're working on a project. I wish I could actually use my Computer Engineering degree in that way. That show honestly kind of solidified me pursuing a CPE degree. I had planned on it since high school, but I went into CS first in college.

[@gnarlin4964]

The first season of Halt and Catch Fire was great.

[@Trylen]

Back in February me and the wife got our tax rebate. For the first time, she recommended upgrading our PCs so we went to microcenter, bought the R9-7900X, Strix B650E-F and 32GB DDR5-6000. Following day was 9 hours or BIOS hell... last weekend her's is so unstable that I had to swap her back to AM4 and her upgrade is sitting in my lab hoping for a BIOS that fixes it. I learned the Upgrading to new socket hell when AM4 came out, but this time she wanted to do it...... right now, I see no reason to upgrade, my games run fine on 1080P

[@chrisbullock6477]

People get to caught up in trying to be Linus and Jayztwocents and putting the cart before the horse. Instead of assessing what they actually have or can afford and getting the right hardware and accessories that can help them have the optimum experience, whether using it for Work or Play.

[@Nate_the_Nobody]

I upgrade every 6-7 years, I usually buy "enthusiast" tier parts each upgrade, this last build I was able to re-use everything from my last build and only had to change out motherboard/CPU and my GPU, I won't buy another PSU till mine dies and I've been using 32gb of ram since 2016 so I haven't had a reason to buy new ram, bought a M.2 about a year ago, that carried over, 8TB HDD and 1TB SSD are re-used from the 2016 build, buy with future proofing in mind and you can get a lot of use out of older parts , I was on a 6600K and a GTX 1070 @ 1440p for almost 8 years

[@mydogzty]

Yes please go ahead videos on topics of discussion I love your views and obvious statements of common sense YES! Anything extra useful or whats really going on behind the scenes, much appreciate the share of knowledge

[@micksterminator3]

I was so obsessed with checking out new gear for ages. Had to tell myself "chill out, I'm not a power user and my setup is fine for what I do." Stopped actively following hardware and video games for years due to work and apathy. Barely just upgraded earlier this year from my first gen i7 setup with 1050ti lol. It served me well. Still got it just to run Winamp milk drop 2 on three horizontal monitors mounted vertically 😂

[@micksterminator3]

Funny thing you mention the Radeon 6000 series. I upgraded the stock GTX 260 to a 6870. It served me well for a long time. Didn't see a reason to upgrade til an old roommate flat out gave me his 660ti for free. Kept it changing along til COVID lockdown, got interested in a new GPU and I ended up finding a 1050ti for way cheap. I think one more GPU upgrade could keep this computer relevant for way more years to come. Especially that I maxed out the ram to 24gb and OCd to 1600mhz. Cpu is upgraded to a 6 core 12 thread xeon at 4.20 lol.

[@dip_trippy]

Built a new machine around a 2060 back in 2021. Planned to upgrade that card at later date ... it might be an ever later date! lol. Can run CP2077 at 60fps (thanks DLSS!). Great insights. I'd add, SAME APPLIES TO PHONES!!!!!

[@heyitsdazy]

Doom 64, Unreal Tournament (1999) and Quake 3 are 2 games I play on a frequent basis.

[@larkan511]

I lived happily with a launch 3080 and thought I was good to go, until I upgraded to a 4k monitor. Purchased a 4090 at MSRP and couldn't be happier. Since 8K is a meme at this point, I'm going to have my 4090 for quite a long time and will maybe upgrade the CPU every other generation, if needed.

[@drunkhusband6257]

Sell that 4k and go 3440x1440 ultrawide better experience.

[@Machistmo]

Unless it fails due to sub-standard engineering, board cracking etc.

[@olbaze]

Absolutely agree. Whenever there's a NEW game that I know I am going to play pretty much as soon as it's out, I check benchmarks for it with my current hardware, and see if it passes some arbitrary criteria (1080p high settings 30+ fps). If it does, then I'm good. If not, then I'll consider an upgrade. I am currently sitting here with a gaming PC I built in 2017, and I'm eyein an processor upgrade for 2 reasons: 1. I cheaped out and went with a 1500X. 2. I think upgrading to the newest AM4 processor, rather than going from 1st gen AM4 to 1st gen AM5 is going to be significantly better in terms of price-to-performance, since the latter would involve getting a new motherboard and RAM as well. I think this kind of mindset is lost on a lot of people, because most tech review channels are hyperfocused on card-to-card performance/price comparisons. It's all about how many percents of average FPS you get for how many percents of extra money, with no room whatsoever for the consideration of whether it makes sense to buy a GPU that does 300 FPS over a GPU that does 200 FPS.

[@Kooooshball]

Amazing into lmao -sent from my GTX 1060

[@holderua]

I'm still rocking i7-4790k and 1070ti. It's enough to play Baldurs Gate 3, Red Dead Redemption 2 and a ton of game on my steam account I bought on sale but never played. Honestly cannot justify spending $1500-$2000 for a new system except that I'd like to switch to ITX form factor, my Fractal Design Define R4 is taking too much space

[@YetMoreCupsOfTea]

I push my CPU hard for my job, but also like to game. So every 5 years so I build a new machine with a mid-tier CPU (currently on a Ryzen 5) and suitable RAM, and go and buy a used GPU from the last generation. For my current build I got an RX 6800 off of someone used for a song, and it's exactly what I need. I run a 3440x1440 monitor, and it pushes the games that I like to play (Cyberpunk, Chaos Gate, Baldur's Gate 3) at native resolution at well over 60 FPS. That's all I require of it.

[@Lilrockerdude13]

Loved my 4790K I got off a Hella deal from work back when it was a few months old with some meh GPU (can't remember but it wasn't the top tier of the day) System died and I moved up to 12600K. Works for everything I need and not gonna bother to upgrade. GPU is an RX580 and it does 1440p for all my games and it's been chugging for nearly 4 years brand new. Again don't feel like I need to upgrade GPU. Been enjoying the crap outta Indie games as hardly anything AAA has tickled my fancy except once a few times a year and Humble Bundle has my back on getting those games especially once they are better optimized from patches.

[@ewfisher89]

My PC was built in 2014. It used a gen old (at the time) i5 and a PNY GTX 660 XLR8. It has begun to crap out, frame rate is very unstable now. I'm looking at getting a new PC. I don't really want to upgrade as I'm not after many of the newest games, but there are a few and with an upgrade requiring a total PC rebuild anyway I might as well get a whole new PC.

[@vitgerivaz]

I'm still running a ryzen 3600 and a 5700XT, on my 1440p144hz monitor that I assembled like 4 or 5 years ago. I mostly play older games so I can easily max out everything on these specs. I might upgrade from 16 to 32 GB of RAM since I've been fiddling with virtual machines lately and could use more memory. Other than that I'll just build a new PC in a couple of years with mid-tier cheap parts from like 2025.

[@GeneralDave]

As someone who has always been a couple years behind in computers and has mostly played older titles I don't see the need to consistently upgrade my hardware to the "latest and greatest". For a few years I got by on an i5 3570 16gb ram and a gt 1050. That being said I did build myself a new rig a couple of years ago to be able to play some newer titles (doom eternal forza horizon 4 apex legends and a few others). Currently running an i5 10600k 32gb ram and a gtx 1650. Do I plan on upgrading at least one component ? Yes I'll be upgrading my gpu to an rtx 2060 and that will hold me over for a few years with the games I play. Why spend all that money on a computer if you're not going to use it to its full potential.

[@jimba6486]

I need an upgrade. I made a budget pc in 2014. Any recommendations or good budget allowence for a rig that plays world of warcraft comfortably ?

[@Whisky_4_1]

good points

[@Sippithan]

Yeah i have a 1070ti and really haven't felt the need to upgrade. the 4000 series probably is a worthwhile upgrade at this point but all the weird cuts in the 4060 and 4060ti discourage me.

[@trashtronics1700]

But like is it better than a 580 though like there's avoiding it if youve upgraded recently but like some of us still haven't

[@siyzerix]

Upgrading implies the newer part is meaningfully faster than the older one or is a bit faster but far cheaper. The 4060ti is not faster in any meaningful capacity nor is it far cheaper. So what are people suppose to upgrade to, if they upgrade every year?

[@DJ_PROMO_PR]

I'm still using a Red Devil 5700 XT. I can do 90% of my gaming just fine. Some even at 1440p. I'm not spending $800+ on a GPU just for a couple of games or for bragging rights.

[@jikissgamer]

I completely agree, I've been getting into retro PCs more than modern PCs lately for this reason. I got an RTX 2080 two years ago and I pretty much never use it for AAA games. I felt like I could have used the money I spent on it better for retro parts.

[@Asstronauts93]

I don't upgrade my stuff until bench markers are no longer adding it to the benchmark comparison slides