LG G3 vs S95C vs A95L Netflix Dolby Vision Too Dark? We Compare!

[@ktms1188]

It used to be there was differences in TV, but now if you purchase any one of these three TVs you got the best TV on the planet. Everything else is so minor that if they covered the frames and logos, you would have no idea that your TV was swapped. I think that's a good thing that they're all pressing the edge at the same level so that there should not be buyers remorse that so many people seem to have on these comments.😊

[@stopthefomo]

EXACTLY.

[@kadajawi2]

I still think the QD models are superior. However there is one big issue with the S95C: If your content is DV profile 5 only you can't even see anything (well with completely wrong colors you can...). That's why we need DV.

[@JayJay-jx3zg]

You're going to tell me Sony doesn't have the best upscaling and processing? Their details shine. If you can't see that, don't bother watching reviews. Just walk in and tell the sales guy what size you need and to surprise you with what he picks out.

[@danieltilly167]

Sony does look better side by side but it's currently £1700 more than the 77' G3. Is it worth the extra cost, hell no

[@kadajawi2]

​@@JayJay-jx3zg That's only if you WANT that upscaling and processing. I'd rather have a soft, natural looking image than an artificially sharpened image, for example.

[@artsteinbroner7832]

Thanks!

[@amitavraja3385]

It would have been better to have uncalibrated TVs to compare. A95L was the only one not calibrated, so we can’t evaluate them fairly.

[@andyjefferson1308]

Sony ALWAYS pre-calibrated their MASTER series TV's. That's why they always look good out of the box.

[@stopthefomo]

This is very fair because in the end, MOST people (99.9%) will not calibrate their A95L and thus this is very relevant to their decision making whether they should or would want to calibrate to make those corrections, right? I still personally preferred the Sony. You'll be shocked that most people do not like accuracy - as long as the colors are not cray neon, you can't tell the difference. The video's purpose is to demonstrate what happens if you DON'T calibrate - is it still acceptable? If not, then you can get it calibrated and it will look nearly the same as the S95C.

[@salesfocus6270]

​@@stopthefomofomo. Please do out of the box comparisons. You're essentially making LG and Samsungs products look better than they really are. Your comments are full of people saying how close it is. We both know it isn't close out of the box.

[@Solstare]

@@salesfocus6270I have the Sony a80l and the Samsung s90c side by side in my house testing to see which I’m gonna keep. I can tell you that it is indeed close out of the box. Sony has more image detail but it also has an annoying blue hue placed over everything in vivid mode.

[@Dima___S]

Have you performed hardware calibration for Sony A95L and LG G3? Why are you changing the manual settings in your test?

[@annenominous7220]

WOW, your content has gotten so much better this year.. Top notch.. Thanks!

[@mattgiunt]

So is that added sharpness from the sony also present in the A80L ? Would love to see a comparison between both TVs to see if A95L is worth the price increase--Thanks

[@salesfocus6270]

The A80L is really impressive. I've seen it side by side with the A95K and tbh I preferred it. I know A95L is better than A95K but can't be bad to hold its own against something that good.

[@faultless18]

@@salesfocus6270I bought a Sony A95K and Sony A80L. side by side A80L looked better.

[@itsjusterthought7941]

I have worked as a graphics professional in the print industry and know the importance of avoiding crushed black levels. I also had access to a C2 for 6 months and it was a great image, but it crushed the blacks and had weak reds. I thought the top model would have cured this, especially this years model, but no. The G3 is falling way behind the other two brands with inky crushed blacks that kill shadow detail. Makers intent would not include shadow detail if you could not see it. If the maker did want ultra high contrast with severe crushed blacks, I'm not sure that would be pleasing to view with the eyes in the long term. There is very little pure black in real life due to bounce light, so LG have no excuse here. The A95L wins hands down for respecting shadow detail.

[@danmks2]

Glad this is being called out. Nothing wrong with having your own approach, but citing it as correct when it plainly isn't, is not fair to consumers, who lean on reviewers for advice on expensive purchases

[@GForceIntel]

I saw the A95L 15 minutes ago and wanted to get a S90C but that sony tv was just incredible. The image quality is just on another level. I purchased a 65" 😅

[@SagaciousFrank]

So how come I've heard this shadow detail is better in the G3 over S95C?

[@floz9718]

@@SagaciousFrank Probably because they were talking about a calibrated set. After calibration, the LG has better shadow detail than the Qd-Oleds, which - at least according to Vincent Theo from HDTVtest - are either too bright (Sony) or too dark (Samsung). Most Oled- panels need calibration to get the shadow detail right and the LG G3 (and Panasonic MZ2000) give you great calibration tools to do so. Neither the Sony nor the Sasmung have that. That being said, I just got a Samsung S95C last Saturday and comparing it to my Panasonic HZ 1000 (which was the king of the hill in terms of shadow detail), I like the Samsung's presentation better. I hate crushed blacks and yes, the Panasonic has better shadow detail but the noise- free, chrominance overshoot- free near blacks of the OQ-Oled panel is simply better. It's too early to tell and my panel is still running in but I can already say, QD-Oled is the real deal in terms of near black presentation! As far as I'm concerned, the WOleds can show me more shadow detail all they want, the noisy (due to heavy dithering near black) presentation, macro blcoking and especially the chrominance overshoot! makes dark scenes look so much worse, I take a little bit of black crushing or slightly raised shadows over that any day. The panel is simply more stable near black and my eyes can pick up on that (dark uniformity - which is by far the biggest variable if we are talking near black presentation - is generally better on QD-Oled too).

[@conraddevera]

​@@GForceIntelwish we have a95l here.. we do have the x95.. but it's too big (too expensive) with no smaller sizes.. you guys are lucky

[@y.servet]

why there is backlight behind sony and lg. this makes the comparison difficult and even not valid

[@stopthefomo]

lol why do you say that? The purpose of the backlight is for context to the camera exposure so you see when the image is over or underexposed. As long as the backlight is dim, it doesn’t invalidate anything

[@hastensavoir7782]

We don’t have Sony A95L in my market, only A80L for Sony. (And X95L). Is the Samsung S95C a great alternative?

[@AeroDude73]

Give your local area time. I called a Best Buy 30-40 minutes away and they didn’t have one yet. Remember, it is pretty new to the market so I’m guessing most stores Will get them soon enough. There are 3-4 BB’s in my vicinity but only one has the Sony and that one’s the furthest away 🙄🤷‍♂️. My local A/V store has one on order.

[@hastensavoir7782]

@@AeroDude73 no, I live in Southeast Asia 😅

[@AeroDude73]

@@hastensavoir7782 ooohh ok.

[@SagaciousFrank]

I'd go for the LG G3 over Samsung's S95C.

[@hype88]

​@@SagaciousFrank Yup, thankfully I knew people that had both and after spending a lot of time messing with each over the last few months it ended up being a pretty easy decision to go with the G3 (77" G3 for $2800 after taxes living in California was too big of a gap moneywise to consider the Sony for very minimal improvements imo). You can't really go wrong with any 3 of these tv's though and depending on your preferences I could easily see someone preferring the S95C.

[@artsteinbroner7832]

FOMO, I'll be getting a A95K during Black Friday sale. Will Clicking an affiliate link on your previous Video containing the A95K via Amazon be helpful to the Channel?

[@stopthefomo]

YES thank you my friend!

[@artsteinbroner7832]

Thanks for the Quick response.@@stopthefomo

[@liamobriensinger]

Not sure if you've ever addressed this issue - but I'm a new s95c owner and I'm a big Disney plus watcher. From the very first thing I watched (Avengers endgame) I noticed things were so dark. Like I had to turn contrast enhancer on to even notice what was happening, but then I'm aware it's over brightening other areas. I recently watched Daredevil and the opening scenes of Matt's face in the confessional are like a Darth Vader mask! I've read up the issue is with Dolby Vision content? Is there any way to rectify this - setting etc? Ideally so that I don't have to change settings every time I watch also. My last tv was a Sony 55XG and honestly I think I preferred watching content on it as no similar issues. I thought I was going to get a major upgrade from reviews and moving from LED to OLED. Welcome any thoughts / solutions?! Thanks a mil.

[@michaeldietz2648]

It’s because you’re watching Disney+. It’s a streaming service. It’s severely compressed and not real 4K or Dolby Vision, if you want those features buy a 4K Blu-ray.

[@krisnyc9134]

Can you do a shootout with the mid tier TVs like the S90C and the C3 and the Sony mid

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

C3 isn't mid tier. 🤣🤣🤣 Just because it doesn't have MLA, that doesn't mean it's not a flagship TV.

[@krisnyc9134]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M the G3 is clearly their top tier and the C3 isn't on the same level as the G3 so that would put it below in the mid level

[@charlesthornberg4087]

LG’s top model is the G3 that would be the top. LG’s C3 would be their middle model meaning middle tear this person obviously doesn’t know what middle tear means.

[@hype88]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M It's mid tier because the G3 exists. It's just a fact, much like eventually the G4 will take over the G3 as the top tier and the C3 will soon enough be an afterthought for most as far as top options go. Rinse and repeat much like the Phone market.

[@dwight2310]

i wish u had a reference monitor under these 3 tvs.

[@joelacevedo7873]

fomo I hope you can answer this question for me is it worth paying double for the 77 a95l or is there little difference vs s90c 77 

[@we8463]

Not worth spending twice the money!

[@Amfibios]

generally it's not worth it, but the A95L has better processing, better motion handling, it's brighter, supports dolby vision and is calibrated from the factory. I personally chose the Sony, but value for money go out the window.

[@Ray_2097]

This is the most valuable video any TV reviewer ever did. Thanks a lot for this - fantastic stuff. And please do it whenever you can with new models. This is one of the most sensitive areas where that rigit "it has to be accurate and people = instruments" logic just doesn't work.

[@stopthefomo]

Thanks, will do!

[@Ray_2097]

@@stopthefomo Another question that's bugging me: if you say that G3 is CALIBRATED, but you still had to make a change to match the others, what does it say about calibration? How can a tv be calibrated (accurate) and still be too dim compared to others? I'm lost in all that...

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Great video buddy😊

[@ke5943]

Great video FOMO! Thank you. How many years do you think before we see 98inch flagship OLEDs sub $10K?

[@we8463]

Hopefully in two or three years!

[@bradymurphy6993]

I Have an LG C2 and Im really thinking something is wrong. For 2 years ive been watching this tv trying not to use vivid mode but any mode dimmer than vivid is almost unwatchable brightness wise. Ive tried every setting. Ive read of G3 owners having same problems and speaking with lg customer service reps who just say to "use vivid mode". If I go below vivid on The Matrix dolby vision I can't see the black cat and if i turn on vivid Neo's lips get so red it looks like he's wearing lipstick. Is this normal? IM IN A BLACKED OUT BASEMENT!

[@ji3200]

Does sony image proceesing give better video quality when watching youtube videos? I heard sony A95L got the best image processing power compare to others.

[@Chris-sl2pv]

Need help, I ordered the s90c and it seems like it is back ordered got it for the 1999 plus 10% off. I just got noticed from Samsung that I got a model swap to the s90cd???? Do I need to cancel? What are the difference??

[@alexanderd.785]

Good video as always! I take advantage of this space to ask if you or anyone has problems transmitting any MVK TrueHD dolby atmos backup from an external hard drive from the TV via EARC to the receiver? Since I have had the CX and the C1 I have been able to, but this week I realized that it is no longer possible on both televisions! It only sends DD+ and the Atmos speakers obviously don't play. Will LG be forcing you to update firmware? I haven't done it in a while. Is it this or did they eliminate that option? I hope someone can respond, I am very concerned about the issue. Thank you.

[@AudiophileTommy]

New shows are getting way too dark !!! And it’s a total turn off for me 🎉

[@stopthefomo]

Sony is responding to this lol

[@cemsengul16]

What were they thinking with House Of The Dragon!

[@spandel100]

And everything is widescreen in a 16:9 world.What is up with that nonsense?Expensive screen real estate being wasted,not to mention the added risk of burn in because of it.

[@TheMerlin1984]

​@@stopthefomo Granted, but I believe that the dv dark profile on the sony sets is too dim in itself and doesn't do already dark sources any favours.

[@loki76]

5:45 Mozart is wrong here. Sony grades their TVs as close as possible to professional monitors. Hence why Sony always win. They are not doing a 'Samsung" thing where Samsung is pushing UNNATURAL colors and saturation. Sony is striving for REAL life colors and images. And Yes they do raise the black level not as a whole, but specifically for each part of a scene to create REAL shadow detail. Sony isn't "appealing" to something that isn't correct or 'there'. They are doing it correctly. So many times you see black crush on TVs because they just go black when shadows aren't pure black. If it's pure black then it's not a shadow anymore. You can literally stand in your room at night with virtually all lights off and just a tiny LED alarm clock as light source and you can essentially see every corner in that dark room. Most OLED and even some MiniLED (not Sony) would crush it and just show it all as pure black. Then you cannot see the "monster" in the corner. Shadow detail is extremely important for realism and seeing a movie properly or a game. It is not a matter of just raising black level to 52. Sony uses processing to lift areas that need to be and keeping the rest normal. That is why at 5:45 or scene before it why S95C and G3 either crush or they over brighten. Yet Sony keeps an even level of the shadows and blacks and lights.

[@danmks2]

THANK YOU. As an industry professional it pains me when people misunderstand what the goal is. It isn't "shadow preferred", it is accuracy. Sony explicitly states their goal is reflecting a creator's intent (the so-called "lens to living room" approach). Reviewers use reference monitors to frequently evidence this.

[@loki76]

@@danmks2 👍

[@zrossk]

You actually can't see much of anything in a truly dark space even with multiple leds, at least not across the room and around angles. The sony wasn't displaying that true level of darkness, not every space is going to be lit in a way that looks like a dull spotlight over it. Although I'm sure that can be adjusted

[@DarkLionn83]

I got the s95c +990b soundbar The q symphony and the color luminance are so great My living room is cinematic for movies etc I am more than happy with atmos + q symphony 😊

[@salesfocus6270]

Accoustic surface+ A series is so much better. The vocals literally come from the screen. 360 spatial sound mapping on the A series gives a much fuller wider sound too.

[@DarkLionn83]

@salesfocus6270 Yeah, sounds really good, but still, I am happy with my setup 😊

[@ayrtonbrito97]

Hello, after 5 months do you still happy?

[@DarkLionn83]

@ayrtonbrito97 Yeah bro, more than happy. I wish I could show you some impressive pictures. The new tv I wanna check is the G4 with the new processor and the extra colors

[@conraddevera]

​@@DarkLionn83I want qdoled.. I'm skeptical with Samsung reliability. is it 2yr warranty for you sir?

[@Derrik7]

Hey FOMO, I’m looking to put a tv in my living room above the fireplace. I have a few windows where light comes in. I currently have LG B7. My use cases are watching DirectTV and streaming movies. Should I get X93L, X90L or S90C?

[@stopthefomo]

Sony X93L if going for 85" and the X90L for smaller sizes. I would definitely choose the 77" S90C if window sunlight does NOT shine directly on the QD-OLED because it's definitely as bright as the X93L and X90L. Most importantly, you're used to the infinite contrast of OLED so unless you are going 2 sizes larger with the X90L, I'd go with the S90C. I also recommend the Mantel Mount so that the TV can be pulled out and lowered to eye level from above the fireplace!

[@Derrik7]

@@stopthefomo Oh ok. It’s going to be a 65inch. I was debating QD OLED S90C being the best tech but what about upscaling broadcasting TV. X93L being Sony’s best mini led for 65inch. X90L being XR Clear for cleaning up DirectTV broadcasting. When watching sports such as football, is the grass on the field a saturated green or natural green and do the skin tones push red on the S90C?

[@Adrianek81]

For me the winner of dark room and best shadow details is A95L,whats your guys?😁😉✌️

[@xXxtremeboy2]

I’ve checked the current prices of Samsung s95c ,LG G3 and a95l all 77” inch and they are as it stands here in Europe 2.700€ , 3.300€, 5.450€ that’s with the current promotions and cashback offers. I’m torn apart if I should wait till Black Friday or jump straight in for the Samsung, cause it is with this offer, a 50% off from the launch price and I doubt it, if it’s gonna get lower on Black Friday. The problem is, I’m not so sure, if it’s worth to buy the Samsung. From those 3 models I think Samsung is the worst, but the best from price stand point. I have time till 29.10 until the 0% interest rate offer runs out. Any tips or advices what should I do ?

[@S.E.729]

Where in Europe are you? Here in the Netherlands, the 77 inch A95L is just over 7,000 euros. 😮

[@xXxtremeboy2]

@@S.E.729 Germany. But with the cashback offer it goes down to 5.450€

[@MariaJose-nv3tj]

I would buy Sony regardless of the price, here in Brazil we can't find any more Sony TVs to buy because it stopped selling TVs here, I'm briefly thinking about importing it if it doesn't return

[@conraddevera]

which one did you get and how is it so far

[@xXxtremeboy2]

@@conraddevera s95c 77" and so far its been amazing and no flaws whatsoever. Its my first OLED so far and maybe that's why I'm so thrilled. At night is even a bit too bright and had to change it to Eco mode and reduce the brightness a bit, so that the picture is not too overwhelming and eyestraining. I sit at about 3 meters aways from the TV,so not that far from it and maybe thats why, don't know. When I watch movies and tv shows change it to Filmmaker mode and in daytime use I turn on the AI enhanced mode and its perfect. If some one has other tips I'm all ears!

[@deathloader4308]

Samsung has more color accuracy when enabling active mod through my galaxy s23+ and other two, they are tinting to green and looks like way more desaturated(which is bad). In static mode, i think s95c rules bc there are still noticeable noises(left seam on where man standing scene) can be seen on others.😂 Anyway nice work fomo.

[@nicolaghinassi1345]

Ciao, tra LG G3 e Samsung S95C 65”, considerando che il primo, in Italia, si trova a 2500€ ed il secondo a 2000€, quale mi consiglieresti? Grazie!!

[@Aceomron]

se devi appenderlo pensa anche al costo di una buona staffa da aggiungere al samsung, al contrario se devi metterlo su di un mobile pensa che lo stand ufficiale del g3 costa 300 euro...

[@BorisMakingTea]

S95C has a lot more to offer. I got the s95b and wish i waited. Colour and brightness is better on the C and with thr one connect, its kinda perfect.

[@conraddevera]

how old is your s05b sir? I like qd oled but not sure about Samsung reliability

[@savaramravindra8576]

Hi, hope you are well. I live in Sweden and need to decide between Sony X95L (75) and Lg G3 (77) to buy for my home in a normally bright room. Both are at the same price now. I owned a samsung UHD tv earlier. Will be waiting for your response. I watch a lot of movies, and sometimes sports. I don't play games.

[@Aceomron]

g3 is better for bright rooms, less reflex

[@roccobruno8027]

Given that the Sony constantly wins in the competition comparisons (after calibration) it's safe to presume that the industry insiders also consider it the most accurate when compared to a reference grade monitor.

[@NotAGreatGamer1981]

Let's be honest here, 99% of consumers aren't calibrating their TVs. They want to plug and play with the best they can get without the extra couple hundred bucks on top of a few thousand dollar purchase.

[@stealthis]

Since you are taking videos of HDR content, have you ever thought about recording it in HDR as well? 😅

[@latenight11]

I bought an a80L 77 and day 3 it started turning off on its own, I couldn’t get it to stop turning off till the next day. Have you ever heard of that happening, getting ready to replace it with a Samsung S90C 83

[@karlos5885]

83 isnt qd OLED max 77

[@aransingh9140]

Can't justify the price difference between the A95L and the G3. If you've got 1k more to blow on a TV then go for it... but for the Average person the G3 will be top of the range and one of the best TVs on the market.

[@blAckJaCk17297]

You’re gonna need a bar sound with the g3, which is not necessary with the sony tv

[@aransingh9140]

@blAckJaCk17297 would disagree, any TV which your spending that amount of money on will need a bar. Its physically not possible for a TV like the Sony to output sound that competes with a good quality soundbar & hence these TV's don't invest much into the speakers they build into the TV's as anyone who's purchasing usually has their own sound system.

[@andrewwebster6221]

At what price point would you change your editors choice from a 77in s90c to a 65in a95l

[@stopthefomo]

The 77” size is what compels me, so if I’m shopping 77”, nothing can get me down to 65” due to the drop In immersion. 77” A95L would be my editors choice if it was $2599 (77” S90C is $2000 now). HOWEVER the A95L wins my “cost no object” TV award aka Best TV of 2023

[@RobertK1993]

Sony Bravia A95L QD OLED bit to expensive in Europe plus Dolby Vision issues outnof the box os bad still a good TV.

[@Hamza-yu1ur]

Creator’s intent is king. I’m not a fan of lifted blacks.

[@Amfibios]

yup... if i'm playing COD and i wanna see the campers in the darkness it would make sense as utility... but if i'm watching a show and it's supposed to be dark... that's how it should be watched.

[@maricallo6143]

Unless you confirmed, with a meter, that PQ tracks correctly on DV test patterns for all TVs, this comparison is inconclusive...you don't know what the picture is supposed to look like....you can't enjoy dark scenes in HDR in a bright room...on my EU Hisense OLED, DV Dark tracks correctly, so it should be the correct setting...Netflix and others should have an option to disable DV/HDR i.e. choose SDR for those who like to watch in a bright room...

[@RobertK1993]

Sony needs fixs Dolby Vision issue its bad PR ASAP.

[@michaelwyckoff8121]

The 3 best of the best for 2023 Hey FOMO

[@flyingtoupee]

what the story with 83" Class - A80CL ? at Costco , but they never carry the flagships Sony

[@tonyb3350]

I gave up on dolby vision on my LG C1. HDR is much more pleasant to watch on this TV. Dolby vision is way to dark and had me wanting to get rid of the TV. The TV actually gets fairly bright in HDR. Sure it clips details sometimes. But it's way better than dolby vision and I'm very happy with it until I can get a brighter oled or qdoled in a couple more years.

[@RobertK1993]

Creators intent I'm watching Harry Potter 4K Ultra HD Blu ray Remuxs have Dolby Vision Profile 8.1 look better than HDR on the discs some person used Dá Vinchi studio encoded them with Dolby Vision

[@hype88]

There's certain movies that are literally fixed by DV.. Like The Fog which is one of my personal favorites has immersion killing issues with HDR but with DV the issues are covered up and it looks great.. This isn't how it should be but it's the reality of things. The biggest problem with DV imo is many Studios are not taking the time to maximize it's potential so some content looks truly spectacular while other stuff doesn't. Like with just about everything recently, there's a ton of grey area depending on a bunch of things.

[@andyjefferson1308]

StopTheFomo my fellow tv lover. I currently own a 65inch LG G1, but on black Friday November I'm purchasing a 65inch LG G3. Be honest with me, Fomo, do you think it will be a good upgrade over the G1? Cheers 🍻

[@stopthefomo]

It will be brighter with better tone mapping of bright HDR content and I the motion/upscaling/processing is better. HOWEVER, if you use the TV audio exclusively, you'll be disappointed. But I rather you get a larger C3 for the same price - size is the best upgrade.

[@andyjefferson1308]

@@stopthefomo. Thank you, Fomo. I don't use the TV's speakers that much. Only for basic TV programs. I own a Samsung Q990B Sound bar, sub & rears, so I'm all good for Movies & gaming. Also, 77inch C3 is to big for my room. Thanks for your honest opinion, Fomo. 👍🏻

[@gsst6389]

@@andyjefferson1308 just wait for the G4 you get an extra year of use with your G1 and for the same price by the time the G4 is on sale you get a bettee upgrade

[@nilsbellack7087]

Its a shame that Samsung doesnt want to adopt Dolby Vision for their TV line-ups... All because LG was an early adopter of that format. Quite childish of Samsung.

[@michaeldietz2648]

Part of the reason is because they know people are never going to get 4K or Dolby Vision, the overwhelming majority of people unfortunately stream and don’t realize how bad the picture is because it’s compressed. The only way you’re getting real 4K and Dolby Vision 4K Blu-ray..

[@salesfocus6270]

Lets remember Sonys accoustic surface on its own, or paired with a compatible Sony sound bar, is far superior to the competition.

[@PoisonHeadcrab2]

Wtf, this is completely irrelevant... Who in their right mind would drop that much cash on such a TV and not bother with a proper stereo or surround sound system? "Compatible soundbars" are an utter gimmick too, hell sound bars in general kind of are... I don't even understand why TV manufacturers still bother integrating any speakers at all in higher end models.

[@salesfocus6270]

@@PoisonHeadcrab2 absolute rubbish. You don't know customers. Customers want good sound built into TVs. High end enthusiasts perhaps not. But customers 100%, I can tell you that with extensive experience.

[@PoisonHeadcrab2]

@@salesfocus6270 Well in that case the problem is obviously the education of the customer, nothing else.

[@salesfocus6270]

@@PoisonHeadcrab2 no it's because customers and especially their wife's don't like big speakers and previous experience with speakers tended to lean towards them not using them. More often than not a customer doesn't want a sound system because of the aesthetics or because of their use cases. There's a reason that most brands still try to make sound work. Samsung with their crappy q symphony and LG with higher watt speakers in OLEDs. It's expected. Personally I think acoustic surface is a really strong feature that isn't spoken about enough by reviewers. Reviewers don't represent what customers want.

[@stealthis]

Dolby Vision will always suck as long as it's targeted at pitch black rooms (and this is how Dolby recommends it's done). Consumers do not have movie theater rooms! People have color and they have windows. Some rooms might be dark, but they are not light ~absorbing. A big way for HDR content to be improved is simply editing them for rooms with SOME ambient light in mind. Then your blocks won't have to worry about being crushed by limitations of OLED technology and will exist in a more Middle ground easily reproducible way.

[@hardcore_jew]

Are you a brother to Vincent from HDTVTest?

[@tren380]

My understanding is they are related.

[@birgerolovsson5203]

Irl it can bee different but as I see it on my monitor now the G3 clearly has the best picture.

[@tylerthere5832]

My opinion also

[@KhanHiFi]

Have you had any issues with Dolby Vision? And if you had,have you found any solution ? I ask because i have it since i bought it,nothing better with update. You are among the best here,so i really hope you have some solution. All best from Germany

[@michaeldietz2648]

It’s because it’s a streaming service. It’s severely compressed data, if you want 4K and Dolby Vision, you have to buy a 4K Blu-ray.

[@KhanHiFi]

⁠@@michaeldietz2648i already have 4K Bluray player from Panasonic,UB9004.

[@KhanHiFi]

By the way,no more issues with DV content,everything working wihout problems.

[@michaeldietz2648]

@@KhanHiFi you’re never going to get Dolby Vision from streaming, all streaming services are lying. They all give you between 5mbps and 12mbps. If you want to see true 4K, and Dolby Vision, you need to buy a 4K Blu-ray player and disc that are Dolby Vision. Why do you think even a standard 1080 P Blu-ray looks better than anything streaming. Higher MBPS

[@KhanHiFi]

Bro,i am more than 25years in High End world,i know how everything works,but thank you for helping.I have already Panasonic UB9004,and yes you can stream original content on Bravia Core Pure Stream with 80mbps.

[@comadoof]

Did I miss the game mode comparison?

[@michael-4k4000]

Why would the creator create scenes that no one can see because they are to dark.

[@Amfibios]

because it's supposed to be really dark... if you have a decent TV that's somewhat calibrated and you're in a dark room, you're gonna see what you're supposed to see. now if people wanna buy an OLED tv because they "heard it's good", slap it on the furniture, turn it on at 2 PM with the sun shining from the window right against the TV and expect to watch the darkest scenes of these shows, they're gonna see nothing and bitch about it, but that's not the TV's or the Show's fault. I remember people bitching about the game of thrones fight with the undead and i didn't know what the problem is, because i watched it on my OLED TV in a pitch black room

[@SessleIsosceles]

Will never feel left out not having DV ever

[@Amfibios]

have you seen any DV content on a supported TV? i'm not gonna say that once you watch it, everything non-DV will be unwatchable, but it is a lot better than HDR10 and my preferred way of watching if it's available.

[@Tomek1Oko]

So far all the hands on previews of Sony tv from few months ago doesn’t make any sense. Everyone was claiming how close A95L is to a mastering monitor now more and more reviews state is actually less accurate than G3 out of the box …. 😳🙄 I’m not really sure about forced sharpening which you cannot disable… also I prefer darker more moody image especially with horrors… but I would like to see it first with my own eyes before I make a choice between Sony and G3

[@stopthefomo]

My G3 is calibrated as I mentioned in the video. OOTB G3 black crushing was way worse, and calibration of the G3 is more time consuming so apples to apples, if both are OOTB I trust the A95L to be more accurate than the G3 if you don’t plan to calibrate at all.

[@camryhsalem5139]

every movie should come with a recommended tv notice from the creator.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

That would be stupid. Less than 1% of people would go through the hassle of buying a TV for 1 specific movie.

[@cemsengul16]

it's getting to that point. I say *uck the creator's intent and produce movies that actually look good on consumer televisions.

[@Hotobu]

​@PSYCHOV3N0M Yeah that's one of the stupidest things I've heard with respect to TVs. How do people come up with this stuff and think it's a good idea?

[@camryhsalem5139]

​@@PSYCHOV3N0Mof course it's stupid but this may erge TV manufacturers to solve this issue at least for premium TV's. It's very disappointing that movies watched on TV looks different from that in theaters.

[@992MAGNUM]

And what, buy another tv for every movie ? 😂

[@ios759]

If samsung gets dolby vision,it would be the most bang for the buck in the premium segment.Also in this video samsung looks better.

[@s9209122222]

Can the movie makers stop making movies super dark, even in daytime is still super dark.

[@richmahogany1]

3:55 fomo becomes mr. game and watch

[@SagaciousFrank]

You're using streaming with their shoddy bitrates to test these TVs? 🤦‍♂️

[@stopthefomo]

how else are you watching Netflix which represents the 80% use case for flagship TV buyers? Kaleidescape doesn't have Dolby Vision and blu-ray discs are near the end of their life in terms of relevance to the 80%. I've already done disc to disc comparisons of DV vs HDR10 vs HDR10+ ad nauseaum and my conclusion stands: DV slightly dimmer APL, occasionally specular highlights might be 5% to 10% brighter but this is the exception depending on the content and color gradient differences are preference but not noticeable unless side by side.

[@SagaciousFrank]

@@stopthefomo , yes I understand that, which is why I've never paid for streaming content. But all the philistines out there are willing to pay mega money for flagship TVs, and then skimp on buying the best standard that is discs - makes no sense to me, and I'm sure the irony is lost on them. Bitrates are crucial for image quality, and when done properly on a disc, is incomparably superior. Dark scenes tend to suffer more under low(er) bitrates, as has been noticed by some streaming alleged 4K content on Netflix (which in the UK can be under 10mbps - less than 1080p blu ray rates). Obviously this isn't your fault, I understand that you're doing this to represent the current state of the market. Personally I don't want to see the end of disc for multiple reasons, not just bitrates (although that's one of the reasons).

[@michaeldietz2648]

Exactly!!! This is the dumbest comparison video I’ve ever seen because he’s using streaming, he’s also spreading misinformation as comment about how Blu-ray is at the end of its life cycle lol

[@michaeldietz2648]

@@stopthefomolol stop spreading misinformation. Blu-ray is not at the end of its life cycle. It’s life and healthy. Streaming 5mbps to 12mbps vs native 4K Blu-ray up to 160mbps (stop trying to downplay it. It’s a huge difference) also perhaps you’re uneducated on this but even a standard Blu-ray looks better than streaming

[@fordmanc6349]

Wanted a OLED Almost bought a OLED, but in a semi bright room with dark seens is a no go, for me. Had to go with LCD Hisense U8K for now. Maybe in a couple years

[@stopthefomo]

Amazing TV value too!

[@fordmanc6349]

@@stopthefomo definitely I’m very happy with it. Iv noticed it’s not alway the TV it’s the contents signal that can adversely affect how dark the scene is comes off when viewing.

[@conraddevera]

​@@fordmanc6349how's the tv so far sir? we only have 85 u8k here, wish it was 75 so it will be a little cheaper. and the demo of hisense sucks vs the others.. need to see it in person again and see other stuff in it

[@ziwkovic6141]

so what, the idea is to change brightness level as the scenese change from dark to bright. well, that is ridicilous.

[@mstauss2566]

77" S90C for $1999 w/2yr warranty or 77" S95C $2879 w/2yr warranty? Is the 95 worth the extra money? I'm looking at Samsung because this is what I can get a discount through work on.

[@chrisbullock6477]

FOMO always doing the hard work for the everyday couch potato..LOL...But thanks for moving on to different content for comparisons, its important to have content that has a wide variety of lighting, textures, environments and variations of people skin tones, hues and settings. Some that really got overlooked that were filled in really good quality were, Raised By Wolves, Hijacked, The foundation, and even the LUKE CAGE series that was shot in Panavision with the Epic Red Dragon in 6K Raw. Just fyi

[@stopthefomo]

RAISED BY WOLVES - definitely need to revisit that one

[@Qwan208]

Samsung look more detailed

[@hemieed1]

I know you guys always say Film maker mode is the best. but Even with my lg g3 77 and my older Samsung tv I never use film maker mode because it always looks terrible. I know I can't be the only person who thinks this way.

[@mordimeshita1754]

Fomo Sony win end I don't understand why everyone check Samsung in HDR if Samsung not support HDR 🤔

[@stopthefomo]

Samsung definitely supports HDR just not Dolby Vision which is not a big deal.

[@mordimeshita1754]

@@stopthefomo I think HDR and HDR+ in Samsung is not the same is definitely different

[@mordimeshita1754]

@@stopthefomo you have a lot of video 4k+ Dolby vision on KZbin why not buy television support it

[@Skiller7777]

G3 is the best here

[@dperr338]

I prefer Sony.

[@romeotrinh6415]

The difference between Sony tv ang the rest are build quality and accurate pictures balance colors and the best highlight pictures no others TVs can match! Just like you driving a BMW VS CHEVROLET CARS. Luxury vs normal sure you can save lot money when you are ok with normal things but there is a little price to pay for step up luxury TVs Sony

[@crodon7930]

But only 2x HDMI 2.1 ports (one for eArc) is an absolute no go….

[@blues860]

a95l too much undersatuation.

[@kamrhd]

Fomo I really appreciate all the work you put in for these comparisons but I gotta ask man, what’s the point of raising and lowering the exposure so high and low? You raise and lower it to levels that no one is going to be seeing when they look at the tv lol