MiniLED TV Not Better? Surprising Truth TCL QM8 vs Sony X90L

[@stopthefomo]

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[@birdtj82]

Big fan. Apologize for my early miss understanding. Forwardly u have my utter support :) 😊 thx for the great videos!

[@fabicdes]

@stopthefomo So after watching this, what is the best Led TV made until today?

[@michael-4k4000]

Where can I pick up a couple of those LG MICRO LED, the $90k ones, need at least two!

[@michael-4k4000]

X90l or X95L?

[@spyplane3979]

what is better pc gaming tv with 3080 nvidia gpu?

[@truthseeker5079]

Mini LED can tend to crush a lot of detail in favor of getting an inky image. Sony's approach is subtle. Sony isn't the brightest or blackest, but there's more information in the image, so the result is an image that stands out and has more depth.

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

Exactly correct. And, just as Sony will always tell you, they make their design decisions with the creator's intent in mind. They want you to see everything that the creator of the content wanted you to see. This is one reason why Sony's consistently provide a much better overall viewing experience than their competitors - regardless of the content you are watching.

[@michaelzoran]

@@michaelbeckerman7532 Sony needs to start making decisions based on the fact that it is the intent of the creator for people to be able to see their content without being forced to take out a loan on their home in order to buy a TV. Sony's products are ridiculously overpriced - the point that it represents price gouging. TCL and Hisense offer similar performance for prices that are much better. This is the benefit of competition in sales. Sony is no longer a sales leader, because of the terrible prices of Sony's TV sets.

[@lancealex382]

Honestly oleds have the same issue, there's still crushed blacks too often but with certain content the black contrast can look stunning and you don't get that with the balanced 'sony' approach you allude to'. That said, there is absolutely a place for this balance and I can understand why people opt for it.

[@henrywinters9496]

Sony have Mini LED too

[@michaelzoran]

@@lancealex382 OLEDs have a couple problems. First, the "Burn-In" risk is very real - regardless of what anyone says. If you watch a lot of CNN or Fox News all day, you will eventually end up with "Burn-In" from those colors always being in the same spot. Second, the "Fast Response Times" of OLED helps the videogames with "High Framerates," such as First-Person Shooters and Racing games. However, the "Fast Response Times" of OLED actually has the inverse effect that HURTS the low-framerate movies on Blu-ray, which run at only 24 frames per second. This creates problems with Stuttering, Juddering, and Shimmery in high-speed "Movement" scenes.

[@marksalamon619]

If TV manufacturers were serious about producing LCD TVs that catch up with OLED displays, they would be implementing and improving the "Dual Cell" technology that Hisense introduced in 2021. In the Hisense U9DG Dual Cell TV, a 1080p black and white panel was placed behind the 4K RGB panel. This functionally provided the TV with over 2 MILLION "local dimming zones", and as the tests in the RTINGS review demonstrated, the results were spectacular. The Dual Cell TV nearly equaled OLED displays in Contrast, Black Uniformity, Blooming, and Wide Viewing Angle. The Dual Cell TV was discontinued (probably because it cost more than other Hisense models) but this LCD technology has the potential to be a highly competitive rival to OLED TVs.

[@asole100]

Maybe because if they gave it their all they would run out of things to improve upon.

[@johnb9624]

Yeah yeah yeah

[@gatosgataros2218]

Perhaps they would also have higher consumption

[@Jack_Sparrow131]

As owner of Sony X900h ("55" 2020) 4k 120Hz model (FALD).. which costs $1200 back in early 2021 I can say Sony TVs are superior overall, especially for 90 series & above.. But their price is outragoues.. X90L (65 in) is $1800 in middle east, while TCL 745C (65 in) is like $900 Videos always show cheap U.S prices.. while Euro, Asia, Africa..etc have always have higher prices for Sony I don't care what Sony could bring to the table as long their prcices are 2x, I won't buy from them again

[@robertoboss3520]

Yes !!!

[@LEGOKRASS]

I had the X900H too, Germany. I just LOVE how Sony processes images. Although it has very fiew dimming zones, the black levels were impressive. Only the viewing angle was decent, but not good. The X950H has the extra viewing angle layer and I regret not having buyed that one. Newer TVs have more dimming zones and all that, but, the prices are... too much. I would buy inmediatedly the X950H in 75 or even 85 inches although it has only 50 or 60 zones. The processor compenses for the lack of more zones. Inky blacks, superb viewing angle, great brightness, incredible picture quality. But, sadly, I just can´t find that model anymore. If anyone knows a link were I can buy the Sony X950H in Europe (called there XH95), better in Spain, i would appreciate it very much.

[@michelemininni178]

@@LEGOKRASS Buy an X90L...best value for money on the market.

[@LEGOKRASS]

@@michelemininni178 Thanx. That´s deffinitive a candidate.

[@slottygw2wvw842]

I could of have written that myself!

[@TechWithKG]

Great video, I thought you explained the misconception of Mini LED always being better than regular FALD TVs quite well, I saw this first hand when the QN90A and Q90T were placed next to each other the Q90T showed more detail and slightly more blooming but the QN90A crushed details to hide blooming and get closer to acting like an OLED in most scenes I thought the Q90T held up better because important details got lost on the QN90A. Also its more about the algorithm than the the amount of zones and you covered that very well.

[@birdtj82]

Q90T was d BEST. Its like ART. QN90A was nice tho. I did NOT have issue with it when I saw in store. Maybe u could try to tweak it. Seeing something in store is never accurate!!! I saw Hisense U8G 65” beside QN90A, LG CX, SONY A90J….the CX A90J looked AWEFUL AWEFUL AWEFUL, but Hisense LOOKED WORSE--at fisrt. I had to hunt down the employee to ask him to change to --STandard mode. He had on --Energy Saving mode. N back light on 💯, black level(brightness) set to 50%. And then i found d Samsung QN90A. I moved around its setting, it looked Great. N d doughy guy in store they were --really agreesive so bitchy that I went straight asking for U8G n QN90A. He kept berating the technology n brand, n kept trying to pulllme to look at OLED, n LG QNED. Ughhhhhh. 😮 U might want to re visit the store, get remotes first. Cuz they really are trying to promote LG QNED(cuz they a re not selling). N some other OLED (they get much higher commission).

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

I agree KG with you 😊

[@zadarblack]

Yes when comparing out of the box settings only. Mini led have more granular control and when settings are well adjusted they destroy fald tv (even if the fald tv also adjusted) this is my issues with most tv reviewers they test tv with out of the box settings when anyone know very well you can adjust settings and make a tv look closer to what you want.

[@truthseeker5079]

To be honest the X90L is the best upgrade you can make in the mid level tv race. They raised the zone count significantly, it's the best pound for pound upgrade for them from 2022 to 2023.

[@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч]

Are you joking? 20 dimming zones is not "significantly".

[@Krynale]

@@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч You misslead, the X90K 65inch had 40 zones now the X90L 65inch has 80 zones. Year-over-year a double zone count is a great improvement. WheneverSony carefully increases zones count they make sure that accuracy remains and no picture detail is left behind, unlike the brute force of other manufacturers. There are no perfect tv's, so shop what you like, really.

[@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч]

@@Krynale You are wrong. X90k has 60 zones. +20 zones is almost nothing

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

@@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч not with a Sony and an XR Cognitive processor it isn't. Remember, the XR is the most advanced processor of ANY TV you can buy today. A big part of that is because of the software running inside that processor. The better the software, the more accurately you can control the backlighting. What makes Sony so much better at what it does is really its ability to not only bring superior image processing to the table, but also to bring superior backlight control as well. This is why, just like the video shows, Sony is able to "do more with less". Now, if you need more than that, they offer the mini-LED based X93L. And, as you can imagine, with mini-LED's and its approximately 800 local dimming zones (along with the XR processor) it does everything even better still. That TV is almost indistinguishable from OLED displays in many cases.

[@WiZZle_502]

I just purchased the Sony X90L 75" and it is amazing 🔥🔥🔥

[@chriskelly1740]

I purchased the 85-inch Costco variant with the two-year Sony warranty, three-year Allstate service, and same aluminum backlit remote included with the A95L. At some point, I was considering purchasing the Panasonic DP-UB820 for daytime viewing because of its unique ability to convert HDR to SDR while maintaining the wide color gamut on my 4K UHD Blu-ray discs. Being that the Sony X90L was released between four and five years later than the Panasonic DP-UB820, would setting the Sony X90L's HDR Tone Mapping to Brightness Preferred achieve picture quality equal to or better than the Panasonic DP-UB820's HDR to SDR conversion with wide color gamut?

[@vomar23]

Honest question. Seems like the mini led is able to achieve great black levels and high brightness situations. It also seems like some detail is lost in some of the brighter areas of the screen. Can we just adjust the brightness to see better detail? With the mini led TV then outperform the full array?

[@rh5810]

Great video thanks! How does this stack up to Sony Bravia 9, the high end Mini LED Sony?

[@atexnik]

He complained about black crash on miniled, so, presumably, Sony should suffer from it, too...but does it?

[@kraken9883]

I’m thinking about buying the Sony 65” x93L but I don’t want to wait until Black Friday. Do you think it’s going to be lower than the $1799 they have on sale for now?

[@kingtrance307]

Now here's the question... Does the Sony X90L still hold it's own against the new 2024 updated TCL QM8?

[@zadarblack]

Nope its get destroyed in everything beside upscaling (when both tv are calibrated and settings adjusted to make both as good as they can get) upscaling is a non issues when using a nvidia shield tv pro has its destroy any tv in that department..

[@robertweekes5783]

It’s not just software - the Sony X90L’s are using their best processor, the same one used in the mini LED & OLED models (which cost 1.5 - 3X as much)

[@zadarblack]

Sony use MediaTek processor just like many others lol. What differentiates them is the software or algorithm used. Sony sadly have horrible motion but the best upscaling and they are very accurate but accuracy make pictures dull. I guess its for the purist. I prefer more saturated colors personally. Do a little research and you see. Its mostly marketing gimmick for the processor stuff. Its do not remove the solid software they run using it.

[@stopthefomo]

Buy the Sony X90L, TCL QM8 or upgrade to OLED? TV Deals on X90L howl.me/ckk4gEOpAPS QM8 howl.me/ckk4hpJxg5x S90C howl.me/ckk4kqCywnF

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for explaining the differences

[@ebayer1980]

Love my A95K. But for value buyers, can't beat S90C

[@mikevadvilavich1414]

Hard to beat a 98" X90L, especially when you consider the build quality vs TCL and Hisense which are constructed as cheaply as possible. If you got in on Sony's summer 2024 sale it could be bought for $4,999, which is half the original rollout price last year which is a screaming deal for that monster.

[@WigWoo1]

Just bought the QM8 today. I cant wait!

[@Scientist_Salarian]

This is the best short-form explanation of different screen types I’ve seen yet. In a world saturated with overly-verbose videos, I appreciate how precise you are in your choice of words!

[@supermariofreak]

Seeing as you mentioned that some of the shortcomings of the QM8 are software specific, could TCL improve on these with future firmware updates??

[@SliqGzle]

And could one use the settings to beat the Sony?

[@asole100]

I think it's a bit of reach to expect a company to make a device better than it is when they can jist do that next year. It would be diff if it was a bug or a small feature.

[@supermariofreak]

@@asole100 I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect software improvements or big fixes at least within the first year of the product launch. This is a brand new model after all.

[@gomezwardulus4192]

Had two oleds loved them, got burn so oled can piss off forever now. Mini led is good enough for me. Got the 65in x95l and absolutely love it and I have no fear of burn in. Win win

[@stopthefomo]

LUCKY MAN. The Sony X95L is definitely a landmark accomplishment for Sony - it took them long enough but this is the TV that should've been labeled "Backlight Master Drive" rather than the X95K

[@gomezwardulus4192]

@@stopthefomo it’s such a fantastic tv, lucky I live in Europe so have a lot of size option and didn’t have to get a ridiculous 85” size like USA.

[@Crissy.P]

I'm thinking of getting the 65'' around black Friday

[@birdsteak9267]

​@@gomezwardulus4192 I am a European opting for 85, but that is because I set up my living room like a Cinema and i have the wall for it. If I lived in the UK i would opt for 50 inch Max, considering how tight the space for housing can be over there.

[@sshaunss]

Yep lg got the panel replaced 2 years later burned in again don’t even watch static images and try to play few hours of different games just incase sick of it

[@bpowick]

I've been watching a few other channels that have also discussed Sony's X90L as well as their top tier mini LED the X95L and how they out perform most other mini LED TVs even though they both have less dimming zones than most of the competition and it all comes down to their processing and dimming algorithm. Sony revealed just before CES this year that they use their own proprietary tech to better focus their dimming zones as well as better control the gradient of light each zone needs rather than simply being on or off. It's actually pretty cool seeing how it works and because of it they don't need as many dimming zones. Apparently their 2024 mini LED TVs will have an even better version of this tech and some tech reporters that have seen pre-production TVs in action say it rivals current OLEDs in terms of picture quality and deep black levels.

[@kinsoncooper7333]

I'm really getting annoyed with reviewers... you accomplished what you set out to do, elevate one and pull down the other... even thoug both has 2 out of 3. All the years reviewers have made a stink about dimming zones, now it's suddenly acceptable to have less.

[@VikingAwayFromHome]

Because more dimming zones require better processing - and it's not quite where it needs to be in order to work optimally with an ever increasing number of zones.

[@stopthefomo]

If you watch my livestream comparisons, you see i try my best to balance the comaprisons because we ALL KNOW there is no perfect TV. It may appear perfect in one scene but not in another. My objective as a reviewer is to match the strength of a TV to YOUR use case. If the flaws I point out is not something you'll ever see, then you win! The QM8 is still my choice for best value HDR TV but the point of this video is to demonstrate what can be done without miniLED (and less dimming zones) - it's obviously not perfect as you saw the raised blacks and blooming of the X90L but the QM8 is still an excellent TV matching the performance of the QN95C more often than not. For $1200 I don't see how this is even a problem for owners of the QM8!

[@18matts]

​@@stopthefomooled is perfect for me 😊

[@fabicdes]

​​@@stopthefomo@stopthefomo So what is the best Led TV made until today?

[@Uncle_Titus]

​@@fabicdesfor Picture quality x95k and x95l

[@MessalaSevero]

Why no any test about miniled Panasonic MX950 ? Nobody did It .. For which reason? Thanks ..

[@LeezahB]

Wow, Fomo!! Excellent video - I learned so much! You made it so easy to see and understand. Thank you!

[@stopthefomo]

THANK YOU for watching!

[@jayshine2742]

U can get the same or similar black levels on the Sony if u don't mind losing a Little bit of detail like the TCL if u just set the local dimming to high because it default at medium

[@michaelzoran]

QUESTION: There is a a comparison between the Hisense UK7 model vs the Sony X90L online. In this comparison, there is a Starfield test. The UK7 model does not suffer from the "Too Black" problems the TCL QM8 suffers from in the FOMO video. In fact, the U7K actually has superior blacks that are deeper than the Sony X90L while simultaneously displaying more of the white stars - similar to the way an OLED is superior to the X90L. Can you confirm this, Fomo in the specific test you show here at the end of your video?

[@zadarblack]

My tcl qm851g in a similar starfield test is nowhere close to what shown here. Out of the box yes but I just adjusted the settings lol. Out of the box comparison is dumb.

[@MohammedModhawwi]

I'm really stuck guys 😅 I want to buy a new tv and I found a TCL C755 55" and Sony x90k 55" at the same price tag, I'm more interested in movies and football than gaming, which TV should I get ?!

[@igorsantiago2163]

Love the videos 🎉. I was hoping could get some help deciding. I’m in a bit of a conundrum. I am Sony fan for years. Got 1 TV already but now looking to update my 5 year old 75 inches Sony. Given current prices and budget I am between the Sony X90l (85 inches at $1789) and the LG B4 (77 inches for the same price). I love watching movies, app streaming (Disney, Hulu and HBO) and I am still not sure if I will place in my living room or main bedroom. They both seen contenders and which one could give the best experience for the buck?

[@movielover1239]

Pls give advice, 85inches TCL QM850G (2023 MODEL) is $1700 with 4 years warranty after tax, vs SONY X90L Costco 5 years warranty at $2150 after tax, which one you would choose? Thank you.

[@mightymushroom4980]

Ive been looking at the TCL QM8B which from the looks of it all is the same as QM8, MiniLED with FALD, is it any good for £564?

[@donb7574]

If the Sony X90L does so well with no mini-LED and fewer dimming zones with its superior processing, I'm really curious how the higher end Sony X95K,X93L,X95L models with mini-LED and more dimming zones plus Sony's special processing will do in comparison to the cheaper mini-LED models and the upcoming Sharp mini-LED TV?

[@stopthefomo]

X95L is doing very VERY well

[@Kobzar666]

@@stopthefomo what about X95K?

[@raikirik703]

​@@Kobzar666The X95K is good but apparently only at 85". A different panel was used for the sizes below 85" so the smaller sets were not as good.

[@brunoboy98]

@@Kobzar666I have the 75’ x95K and i absolutely love it. i have a super bright room and the tv gets so bright. there’s some blooming but it’s really not a dealbreaker , unless you always have subtitles on or something

[@alanclark9000]

​@birdtj82 sharp isn't better then sony. Hell no. They kinda pulling off what hisense is doing just not in the USA.

[@ericbrown1783]

Thank you my friend for all the help/ reviews I decide to buy the tcl 85" qm8. And I wanted to ask you about that elusive 600x600 full motion wall mount that I can't seem to find anywhere. I found one review saying a PERLESMITH Full Motion TV Wall Mount for 50-95 800x600 could work. If so how do you feel about this wall mount?

[@ricome169]

should of bought smaller tv 85 inch tvs ae garrish ugly

[@stevenbarta6638]

Samsung QN90C or Sony X93L. Which one would you recommend? Which has better upscaling?

[@isaiahang6739]

@stopthefomo is this the calibrated QM8 versus the uncalibrated X90L?

[@garagesale5948]

I have a 85" X90CK, could not be happier. Will use the $2K saved from the X95L to purchase room darkening shades for the window to allow the theater experience during the day.

[@Beautyandbeastdogue]

Hi FOMO, Hope you can help me to decide, I haven't had a new TV since 2011 I had an old 55" Samsung UN60ES8000 for a long time, it was savagely killed by the hands of an 11 year old boy that will be treated like an adult, well Im looking to get a new TV but is so hard so I have these models in mind but don't know which one is better between Q7, U7K, U8K, QM8 or a X9OL, we like to see Movies, Shows, Soccer, and Play PS, hope you can help me thank you.

[@conraddevera]

are oleds still crushing darker details? been a few years since I've checked what's new

[@michael-4k4000]

I bought a TCL 6 55" and an 75 Q8, both did not hold up well. Is the picture good? Yes, but TCL has so many comprises that its not good.

[@loye]

for 85 inch Sony X77L and samsung Cu8000 , which one would you recommended for setting up home theatre ? the 85 inch CU8000 has 120hz native refresh rate, VRR support and 4 2.1 HDMI port . also freesynce premium .. But I feel like Sony colour is more realistic to the eyes. but I think I would also try to game on the 85inch TV, which must be a whole new experiences due to size. please advise

[@David_Palka]

Hey guys, Sony X90L just dropped here on 1650 💲 for 85'' size in after xMass sale. I thought about to buy (because I like that pitch black OLED like) an TCL 75C855 (which has superb reviews) for 1730💲last week (or the same priced lower model on 85''). From this it looks like a clear win for Sony, what do you think? Thank you for your comments :) PS: I have an PS5 and mainly watch Amazon Prime or so.

[@debw2635]

I am wanting to save up for a 98 inch tv, so my question is .. doesn't the 98 in screen have more dimming than a 65 in screen? I am sure it does, so doesn't that make sense there would be improved contrast on the 98 in screen? I wish FOMO could review the real differences between the 98 in screens TCL and Sony, in how they look and perform. isn't there a Sony setting where we can sharpen the contrast even just a bit without ruining the whole picture. if so what is it called?

[@janeseymour8199]

New to all this. Is the x90l still a good buy. It’s 999.00 for a 65 inch. It’s for my bedroom which I watch movies in the dark. Don’t care about reflections, viewing angles or gaming.

[@davidbenning10]

Does the Sony XR Clear Image in the X90L make a significant difference? I have the X90J and I’m wondering if one would notice a significant improvement.

[@TheAntifluencer]

Yea it improves upscaling and improves noise reduction from bad TV sources

[@davidbenning10]

@@TheAntifluencer Thanks. Do these software improvements reduce motion blur as well during fast scenes?

[@Hi-levels]

did TCL improve the software? also what about the risk of some of LEDs going bad in 1000 mini led TVs?

[@abishakgovindarajan3848]

thanks FOMO right now is it better to get the 98inch qm851 or the x90l as the prices have dropped

[@AlbertoGonzalez-tu4nz]

Did you end up getting either, those are the 2 im considering?

[@stephenedwards5063]

@stoptgefomo do you recommend The Hisense U8K or TCL QM8? TV will mostly be used for Xbox series X gaming and streaming movies and I’m Looking at 65inch

[@davidklotz11]

Great information. I’m curious if you have any hands on experience with the TCL Q6 and Q7. A lot of people saying the 5 and 6 series are better because of things like miniLED, is this the same situation where the Q6 and Q7 are doing more with less?

[@asole100]

You forgot to consider the Sony processing in this equation.

[@joshalan5125]

I hope this isn't a dumb question (if it is, sorry) but do you believe that Mini Led's may eventually replace LCD or even QLED TV's the same way that OLED basically phased out Plasma?

[@loldatfunny]

no because it costs more to make mini LED Tvs and most people don't care that much about picture quality so companies will continue to make regular LCD Tvs who will buy TVs for the cheapest possible price. I doubt the production costs of Mini LED will come down enough that companies are willing to mass produce as low end/cheap TVs

[@stopthefomo]

So to be clear, a QLED TV is simply an LCD TV that uses quantum dots in the backlight system with the only difference being that QLED is Samsung's trademark for the quantum dot technology but Hisense also uses quantum dots in its ULED TVs - ultimately, they are all LCD TVs. All premium LCD TVs today (over $800) are using quantum dots in their backlight so essentially these premium LCD TVs are all QLED now!

[@joshalan5125]

@@stopthefomo Thanks for clearing that up. There are so many kinds of TVs today, its hard to keep track of them all.

[@birdtj82]

It’s like car industry, there always ppl in need of “just a car” for utility reasons. I went to fast food restaurant, i saw all the Hisense ROKU tv as their menu. N bunch of other cheap TVs. There always market for Cheap/simple ,,,:) 😅

[@joelbrayman5827]

I think I have watched every video review on U-Tube related to choosing between the Sony X90L, TCL Q7 or QM 8 or the Hisense UK7 or 8 and it is mind boggling, although half the fun. "On paper" I settled on the Sony X90L and went to Costo to buy one. Costco had a much cheaper 65" TCL and Samsung running on either side the of the Sony X90L. No doubt the Sony has a nice picture, but when I stepped back about 15 ft both the TCL and Samsung were noticeably brighter, and incidentally had good pictures. I realized right then and there that despite all the reviews and descriptions about nits by nerds (meant affectionately), that brightness really is important to me. Don't get me wrong, I love spending time researching and watching all the reviews, but man, you just have to go somewhere and watch these TV's side by side if you can. Your eyes may change what your brain may be trying to tell you based on what others have to say! I just ordered a TCL QM 8 ...

[@Neil-f3u]

Thats exactly right . PRICE AND 3 YEAR WARRANTY. When your TV is fitting and foaming at the mouth, nothing else matters.

[@AlbertoGonzalez-tu4nz]

How's the QM8, i keep going back and forth on that one and the 90XL, I'm driving my self mad here. Any input on your experience would be hugely appreciative. Thank you in advance.

[@joelbrayman5827]

The QM8 I purchased did not disappoint. It is extremely bright and the picture is awesome. I think there is always a balance between price and quality and for me this was a win-win. If you are patient you can find TCL TV’s on sale at least twice a year and they can be significantly less expensive while delivering an equal to, or better viewing experience. The QM8 is the closest thing I have seen to an OLED but at a fraction of the cost.

[@RipersEND]

Fomo can you help, i have a problem, when i enable local dimming (low,mid or high) on my 65U8KQ, and when i watch monotone or monochromatic colors like clouds or backround sky...etc, i see a matrix of vertical lines on my tv, but when i turn the local dimming they disappear. Like the lockal dimming is to agressive. I was in their store but the tv there is the same, but the 65U7KQ doesnt have the problem..

[@stopthefomo]

Could be that the additional brightness is adding to the complication - swap for the U7K and see if this fits your use case better? You may not be benefiting from the additional dimming zones anyway, so don't spend more money if you don't need to!

[@RipersEND]

Thanks for the fast reply :). When i dim down the brightness the dimming zones are still visible, until I disabled them completely. When I watch 4k videos the dimming zones do a good job and the picture is fantastic, and playing HDR games, but in low quality videos you can clearly see the zones, i watch a lot of anime and some low quality tv and there the zones are clearly visible, but you can't on the U7KQ, like the algorithm is better in that tv, for low quality videos, it knows when to disable the zones were they are not needed. The 65U7KQ uses 384 zones and the 65U8KQ uses 1008 zones, and the U8KQ has a better sound system, but in the end they are the same tv, they could use the U7K algorithm on the U8K. I don't see the zone as a problem, they just need to update it, it's not a hardware problem, just software. I informed their support about the problem and they have acknowledged that it is present in all their U8KQ tvs, even if I replaced it, it would be the same. They say that I can return it and they will refund me, in the end it's a fantastic tv, but this problem bugs me. I am thinking of returning it and when they put out the 2024 version we will see if the problem is still persistent or I keep the tv and wait for the update. Or buy the samsung when the price drops for the 2023 model.

[@sathishkumarl3290]

For the same price which one is good? Sony x90l or LG A series oled ?

[@MichaelC_22]

You could also throw the Q7 into the discussion. No MiniLED. Amazing contrast. Deep blacks. And I would say less blooming than the X90L. Rtings review will be coming out soon, and I will say it scored very highly with contrast and black uniformity.

[@TBoogy3]

This TV is amazing me. Just got it last week.

[@tomtube1012]

Are you saying the Q7 looks better than the QM8?

[@MichaelC_22]

No. The Qm8 will look better in many ways, but the q7 is no slouch. Qm8 will get much brighter, and colors will "pop" more. However, the contrast in both TVs is similar, and in dark scenes, the q7 will not crush blacks as much as the qm8, for example.@@tomtube1012

[@nikitas.doroshenko]

Could you please guide me if TCL C845 same as QM8, or very similar regarding picture quality/panel. Thank you!

[@stopthefomo]

Panels are different as the QM8 has more dimming zones. The C845 is a step down from the QM8 but a step above the Q7 (USA). Picture quality should be similar but the QM8 should be a touch brighter with better blooming control (all else being equal) but again all speculation based on hardware specs as we don't have the C845 to compare!

[@rjejames28]

I will say that for everyday watching Sony's processing is continually underrated. If people are watching a lot of shows that aren't perfect Blu-ray 4K the Sony just absolutely shines over a lot of other competition. They're upscaling and rendering of standard definition streaming apps is fantastic.

[@birdtj82]

The thing is tho most ppl under 45 do not watch blue ray 4k. It’s like forcing a Narritive that is just harder by year. :) and i do hear ya. Cuz if they are using upscaling but ONLY making the panel best at $3000 to look so good but making the 1200-2200 range look like bad deal. It’s JUST not worth it. Not worth it. 😅

[@alfredsnyder329]

Another thing to point out is the compatibility mode with the PS5. Few TVs respond to the way they respond to the PS5.

[@birdtj82]

@@alfredsnyder329 interesting :) what happens when use diff tv then ?

[@rjejames28]

@@alfredsnyder329 good point

[@anthonymorales5815]

yeah, i owned a u7k for a bout a week, and different content looked terrible. motion was awful, and detail in dark scenes was awful

[@VaporEclypse]

Why did you not use the U8K (newest) 65 or better the 75 IPS/ADS Pro screen from Hisense instead of the u6h?

[@keponen331]

FOMO should I buy last years Philips PML9507 mini led or wait for this years PML9308? I hear they will have Saphi instead of AndroidTV, sounds worse

[@stopthefomo]

If you are comfortable with Android, then get this year's TV on huge discount because the year to year improvements are incremental. With the exception of the X90K to X90L jump in performance, I don't see Philips offering the same jump.

[@keponen331]

@@stopthefomo I'd prefer GoogleTV, but for Mini-led they're going Android to Saphi this year. OLED and regular LCD getting Google though, grr

[@richmahogany1]

would really like to see the same comparison except done with a samsung miniled vs. sony non miniled. also, is there any technical difference between a FALD TV with lots of zones vs. a miniled with not a lot of zones? at what point does FALD become miniled?

[@stopthefomo]

Samsung miniLED is definitely not "better" - having reviewed the QN90A, QN90B, QN900B, QN95C, I can say that the additional miniLED did not make the Samsung "better". The QN90B had worst contrast and slightly lifted black bars compared to the QN90A - yes, specular highlights were a touch brighter but the compromises were unacceptable. QN95C was definitely improved but only to match the QM8 - this is why the QM8 is my current reference miniLED TV (until next year!). Hisense surprisingly added miniLED to its U6, which was completely unnecessary as the Q7 without miniLED beat both the U6K and U7K. Personally, I believe that a TV does't need miniLEDs unless they have more than 400 dimming zones.

[@Li403Lo]

Hi Fomo, should I go to mini LED Sony 83X90L price at $1,999 or LG OLED 77 B3 at $1,799 ? what is your opinion? Thank you.

[@The_Wicked_Wookie]

Tcl has proved terrible for me had tcl 6 and 8 both broke in less then a year never again

[@pboissie]

Man thats good to know, as i did consider a QM8, but too many issues ive heard with TCL for last few yrs. My 2 yr old Hisense U8G still going strong with zero issues…

[@CarsandCats]

Yep. That "Sony Tax" doesn't look so bad now that you're on your 3rd purchase, right? I bet the Sony would have been CHEAPER in the long run and you'd have a better tv that still works.

[@Cigma-e7w]

I've had this issue with Hisense tvs, never bought another one.

[@martinchitembo1883]

​@@pboissiei have an hisense u7a from 2018 and it is going strong and though it is edge lit it is still a brillant set.

[@pboissie]

@@Cigma-e7w must have had the cheap models pre - U8G as ive never heard anyone mention major failiures with 2021 and later Hisense. This is was my first “off brand” purchase by the way, always got Sonys, Samsungs and LGs….and only samsungs failed on me eventually

[@jeremysumpter8939]

Also, you are explaining the qm8 highlight washout, and contrast loss incorrectly

[@stopthefomo]

did I? sorry, what has been your experience with it? I still consider it best in class when it comes to highlights compared to all LCD TVs in 2023 (including the best from Samsung and Hisense) although I didn't compare it to the Sony X95L

[@michaelzoran]

QUESTION FOR FOMO: Does the Hisense U8K successfully achieve the three criteria you describe at the end of the video? I'm talking about the 75" IPS version of the U8K, not the 65" VA version of the U8K.

[@SLICK8116]

No

[@aldouruguay7809]

I have the sony x90h and want to upgrade, is this tv a lot better?

[@DavidBrown-eo3hw]

Any chance of doing a U8N vs QM7 2024 vs X90l review. They are all about the same price and Sony is still selling the X90l. Im interested in seeing how the X90l compares to the 2024 tvs in its price range. Thanks.

[@rohanchooramun7288]

Great video.... you need to add Hisense as well into this comparison as well.

[@birdtj82]

Also TCL use 1.0 Color toner. Hisense USE PREMIUM 3.0 color toner same as d BIG 3. So its REALLY hard “under sell” to make a --Narritive lol. Cuz Hisense U8 U7…are d premium. 😮

[@stopthefomo]

@@birdtj82 LOL let's get this cleared up. I bought the Sony X90L from Best Buy and most importantly, Sony has hated me ever since I posted the X900H VRR fiasco three years ago. Sony has never EVER sent me a TV for review - I've had to buy them all myself. The only TVs ever sent to me for review have been TCL (but not recently, I've also had to buy the QM8 and R646 from Best Buy) and Hisense loaned me the U8K, U7K (both returned). Believe me when I say that I have been Sony's harshest critic (or did you miss my scathing review of the X95K last year, which I also bought) and this is the first time I've liked the entry level X90 model! As far as LG, they definitely don't like me and like Sony, they also do not send me any TVs for review - I've had to buy those too. I welcome loaner TV units for sure, but I always say it as it is because I don't mind buying TVs when I need to.

[@birdtj82]

@@stopthefomo hey…thx for taking the time to explain. Okay 👌 that shows a lot of gratitude. And sorry for putting u thru the hurt. And yes a lot of FAke influencers online n it’s REally hard to differentiate who’s real vs NOT. We all know most TV reviewer/tech reviewer/ car reviews are like biased to promote certain mode/brand etc. so consumers are under a lot of stress. But def u have my highest respect. I am going to delete that comment shortly n u have my biggest apology. And yes u are my top TV trusted review guide. I hope 🤞 my response give u good hope. I know we all make mis judgement time to time , but most ppl have decency to re exam . Thx 🙏 for being a good guy. HUG! Ps i am Chinese. We learn to be calm n having decency. So i see that in u. :)

[@rohanchooramun7288]

@@birdtj82 Although the only problem with Hisense is that it uses a native 8bit panel not 10bit which causes some issues with HDR.

[@alltheboost801]

I’m in the market for an 85inch. Currently I own a 65” TCL 65R615 which is great! But I want something bigger and I’m considering the Sony X90L, TCL Q7, TCL QM8, Hisense U7K and Hisense U8K I watch movies, tv shows, streaming like hulu, Netflix, HBO, etc and all sports every day and night. I do some gaming maybe once or twice a week. And I have some blue-Ray movies that are true 4k Which should I go with?

[@kanj1]

What did you finally choose? Same question for me :D

[@alltheboost801]

@@kanj1. I ended up with the Hisense 100” U76N. It’s been great!

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

@Stop the FOMO. Thanks for this great review. I have the Sony X90J 77” - FOMO: does that 2021 model also has 80 zones? I’m happy with it, it’s very similar to X90L?

[@stopthefomo]

No it has less, sadly the X90J lacked the software prowess of the latest X90L with XR Clear and as a result it has more impactful HDR, due to better contrast, specular highlights and color luminance vs X90J. I assume you have the 75" X90J? Only the A90J (OLED) comes in 77" and as it's OLED it doesn't hvae dimming zones and is a better TV than the X90L!

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

@@stopthefomo Hi Fomo! I”m so sorry I meant I have the X95J not the X90J. My bad. So can you now explain the differences between the X95J 75” and X90L? I’m so sorry about that.

[@Kamihazii]

@@asafblasbergvideographerx95j is similar to the x90l in zone count but the features of the third generation fr processor is still going to be better than those of 1st gen xr processor. Don’t fret, you still have a great tv better than 90% of consumers!

[@braulioribeiro3897]

Hey FOMO, since you can’t get your hands on a reference monitor, why don’t you use your phone as a reference guide, since they’re basically calibrated straight out the factory?

[@stopthefomo]

Nope, reference monitors are specifically used/calibrated by Hollywood creators so it would be the only true "reference" - so because movie content creators do not use the phone as a reference, I cannot call it a "reference". Even a "reference monitor" is inaccurate as they only go up to 1000 nits - for content above 1000 nits, it's all subjective and viewer preference really!

[@braulioribeiro3897]

@@stopthefomo So a 14 Pro Max, wouldn’t be accurate to the creators intent in HDR, up to its rated 1600 nits? I’m not saying it should replace a dedicated reference monitor, but wouldn’t it show you if a TV’s gamma curve or color accuracy is off a bit?

[@markmd9]

Can you please tell who is better in picture quality at Sony: Newer X85L or older X90K? In my region they are the same price.

[@tvguy316]

X90K for sure. It has the XR processor and just better image quality overall that the old processor

[@markmd9]

@@tvguy316 I have 2 Philips monitors, one higher class and more expensive but is a year older than the other of a lower class. And the newer one, even if it a lower class has better picture quality.

[@tvguy316]

@@markmd9 I understand the concern. There is not too many reviews of the X85L. To me it looks very similar to the Sony X900H. There is a big chance it has no local dimming in VRR and the "fake" 4K120. The X90K doesn't have these issues

[@meowmixes98]

I actually watched this from my new Sony X90L. I previously had two TCL Q7'S that buzzed and reached out to you on Twitter (thank you by the way). I originally wanted a QM8 after watching you test it out but they didn't have a 55 inch. I ultimately went back to Sony (I had a Sony 900f after a 900e died just outside of the one year warranty). I've been very impressed with the Sony X90L. It's handling of low bit rate content I imagine is much better than the QM8 which should tip it for anyone watching cable TV which can vary per channel, per show or even per commercial. I do think this year's TCL remote is much more comfortable and the soft buttons are great. I also had a issue with VRR while playing Borderlands 3 on the Q7 that makes me wonder if it is present on the QM8. Turning on VRR for that specific game made it look like nighttime and the colors shifted everywhere when you used the stick. One area I think Sony needs to improve is the game bar. Other companies offer more features with their game bar. Additionally, gamers want gaming TVs with more picture adjustments as it's not always about lower response times for us. But overall, I'm supremely happy that I ended up with the Sony X90L over the Hisense U8K, TCL Q7 and QM8 or even last year's Samsung QN90B that I was considering. I don't see myself leaving the Sony nest for a long time. Lol The color and clarity are the first things you notice.

[@birdtj82]

X90L has blooming . It’s like unfair to u tho. It’s like someone wanna buy suppped up Honda Accord, but its sold out, so they are like :”i end up buying Honda civic (cheaper model but close enough). It’s trash so i returned it buying a BMW X3. “ I am so glad i did d switch. i am glad i did not buy HOnda Accord. “ If NOT buy QM8/U8K/QN90B , judging Q7 to translate “UN predictable” U8K QN90B experience, it’s NOT --accurate prediction how much u would experienced. 7-8 is HUGE jump in d user end experience!!! 3 yrs in a row i have seen HIsense 7-8 HUGE gap in visual, Same as TCL. IF I someone buy -iPhone 14, because they WANTED 14-pro. But d 14PRO was 2 weeks wait, sold out. They end up buying d (none pro) 14: “ugh i dont like iPhone 14 , i wish i stick with my Samsung Flagship $1500phone, i will NOT bother buying iPhone 14-pro, i wont bother with any iPhone in the future” but NEVER bought d -14 pro. 🎉glad u enjoy yr tv. But Def NOT fair comprasing to QM8 , QN90B or U8k. :P

[@michaeldavis6550]

Sure it's fair because these budget brands are now claiming to be as good as the big boys at a cheaper price & yea they check some boxes but the over all quality & dependability isn't there but now thier prices are Wright up there within a couple hundred dollars from Sony & Samsung. So in the end if you wanna play with the big boys then you better be able hold your own in comparison. So bottom line is its a very fair comparison.

[@birdtj82]

@@michaeldavis6550 i know what u are saying I have seen it in store last week U8K 75” NO blooming. X90L HAS blooming for that itself …sel visual self telling. Even Brian’s Tech Therpay video shows it. Sever Blomng against U8K. D Big boys means the Boy boys flagship panel X95K X95L. Getting runner down Q7. Judging the U8K Qm8, QN90B over SONY X90L is really not accurate presentation. As if its like ppl want to get QD-OLED from SoNY, but they cant afford so they get like d lower tier MINI LED”ewrr 700nit peak, blooming …HELL NO, i wont do sony” its diff panel. Yeah if QM7 did NOT workout , u find Better panel --great. But usign that QM7 to dictate /predict the OUT come of QN90B, Qm8, U8K is very……subjective . It’s a interesting thinking pattern. Often guys in dating pool do that too. They cant find HOT gf. So they will TESt on “normies” to see how “women are like” n using -that -as land mark to “predict” if girls that are PRETTIER -WILL be (WORSEN). Never knew a lot of sub 5/Normie women who never dated, or used to be jealous, covert narccist , actually attention seeker/secret gold digger, --MORE prone to Monkey branching, or being Seduced by other men. So those guys get BURNED …n thinking”okay this type of average looking woman so jealous/vindictive/snappy. Then pretty girls much be WORSE! So i am going to hate on Pretty women cuz they must be high maintance n snappy. “ Dude u see what i am saying…we cant use 1 thing/to fill 1 narrritve to broad cast reverse that value to the rest of PRODUCTs :) as if we already have figured out but we have not. So that QM7 should only apply that experience to QM7. IF i were u , i would be :” oh, next time i buy soemthing if it’s SOLD OUT, i will NOT buy Tier Down. I will wait. I cant just buy Tier down n expect it to be Tier up, get angry n mad at the Tier up that I never bought. D sales person fooled me to let me belive d tier down is close when it’s NOT. So i need to be care about how sales pitch. When I buy a Car, i need keep my spine. if its sold out d model i want, i need to not the Car sales --let me show u this, its tier down, but Very Close, NO they are just trying to --LET ME Believe they are Close so i can waste my money so they can get commission over the over stocked car that they are trying to GET Rid of.”

[@larrymtz83]

Im still deciding between the u8k 900 and this sony x90l 1200 at costco 5 years warranty 😬

[@michaeldavis6550]

@larrymtz83 please trust me. Go with the X90L you won't be sorry. Espicallly upscaling & pure picture quality straight out of the box not to mention one of the most dependable brands. Sure some people have issues sometimes with some sonys but overall longevity is key & you can trust Sony. That's why I bought 2 in 2022 & only needed 1.

[@sarthakpatnaik1696]

Hi.I am from India.I recently purchased the Sony X90L 55 inch. I am seeing a mildly visible horizontal banding in the middle while I ran the lcd test with solid colour slides.The horizontal banding in the middle is not noticeable when I play videos etc. Should I be concerned ?Will the banding increase over time with usage?Would like to know your thoughts on the same

[@stopthefomo]

there should be no banding at all - I suggest you swap it as this is very unusual.

[@alanclark9000]

​​@@stopthefomowhat would it take for lg to put 120hz bfi on the G3? It really sucks for people that don't have it. They might not know it but 100% the c1 does magic with it.

[@budmonk2819]

I just bought the Sony X90L and am waiting for delivery. This is a great video with the visuals and explaining the differences. Thanks for putting me at ease. I really had FOMO on the Mini LED.

[@PcGamingForFun]

is there any ghosting or blur when panning the camera in games?

[@sberry55]

How is it?

[@SLICK8116]

@@sberry55it sucks

[@TurkeyShaman]

How does the u8k hold up to the starfield test?

[@zenzonetv3310]

@stopthefomo Will you be getting your hands on the Hisense UX as well?

[@loki76]

4:45 That image of an LCD with local dimming zones is not correct. No LCD with local dimming would have the whole screen as lifted blacks. The screens are pure black, but there is some blooming around the cross. That is an image of a TV without local dimming

[@monster411able]

Nice video comparison….. now the $64k question…for an all around moderately bright family room television that will do sports, Netflix, movie nights…. $2799 for an 85” X90L or $2199 for the QM8?

[@tbecket4890]

Lol … so much for this vid

[@paulcox2447]

For 600 cheaper you are getting deeper blacks and slightly less detail in the highlights. If you aren't a reference accurate guy, the qm8 can be driven a lot harder when it comes to color saturation and things like that. So keep that in mind depending on how you like to watch

[@monster411able]

@@paulcox2447 thanks. I’m like everyone else. I want it all. OLED blacks, Sony processing, LED juice. Lol. I’m leaning towards ponying up another $500 and grabbing a 77” A80L.

[@monster411able]

Our living room isn’t a super bright environment. Thinking it will work.

[@AO2007US]

Can u please compare sonyx90L and the new Panasonic miniLED w95

[@eagles725]

FOMO, can you do another video with the U8K thrown in? Great video. thanks!

[@stopthefomo]

Brian (techtherapy) will be doing that video!

[@Buzza235]

So should I get the x90l or the x95l?

[@birdsteak9267]

I want to see YOU make a comparison video between the 90L and the 95L, if it's worth to go for a smaller size vs a larger size (My GF doesn't have the best sight, even a 55 inch at 10 ft is difficult for her) So i am stuck between a 90L 75 inch and a 95L 55/65 inch. I want to know if the differences is night or day, or just about.

[@birdtj82]

10 feet 😮😮😮😮 Can u measure again ! Cuz I did some in depth measurements with my 65” . To see where is breaking points that my eyes fall apart ! ✌🏼okay from Front of TV screen 📺 (not back wall ) to my face 😮(not back of 🛋️) Turned out at 8.6’ absolute Limit too close to My 65” 😮! So u need at least 9 feet face to 65” tv to be safe 😊 I have 20-20 vision . When my eyes out of focus/it cause strain right way . N I usually pick up ! U need at least 10.5 feet 🦶 (from eyes 👀 to TV 📺 screen (not wall to wall ) to focus !!!! If want 75” . D half foot is none negotiable ! 😅 I tried , eye strain got so bad - headache 🤕 At least ! So u better get d 65” in my opinion ! Otherwise u r going to Be -Close eye sighted !!! Yrself . If screen 📺 too big , 😮 u run into 2 issues !🙀 1 its like IMAX front row seat 💺! Ur eye balls run around d screen to constantly adapt to change of image to Re focus ! D rapid i ball 🏀 movement to trace images cause major eye strain! 🙀2 ur eye wont have enough time to focus before image shift ! Also yr eyes wont be able to focus! Since too close ! Yr eyes 👀 will over Compensate by -- self Eye 👁️ ball Stretching 🙆🏻 to make yr own Eye balls 👀 from circle ⭕️ to be oval 🙀shape! It is painless and permanent! That show they formulate near sightedness! Make sure yr eyes r at least 9 feet away from tv screen !!! (For prolonged watching ). (I am talking about eye to screen 9 feet . Not wall to wall ! 10 feet is absolutely too close for 75” ! I know I said 10.5” but that’s like d limit I rested myself to feel immediate strain. For long hours watching , tv-eyes , I suggest at least 11 feet! Long hours !!!! Otherwise u r gonna do eye ball ⚽️ marathons n focus issue both . With BRIGHT mini LED- eye butcher if not careful ! 🧬 our professor 👩‍🏫 coach us how to watch tv 😂one day ! N how eyes 👀 work etc . Still using that method ! 😮 lol 😅

[@birdsteak9267]

@@birdtj82 I measured again, it's about 12-14 feet actually, the 10 was a visual estimation based original in meters converted to ft.

[@birdtj82]

@@birdsteak9267 Yeah if u have 12-14feet. Do the 75”. I have about d SAME distance in my living room. 75” makes better experience. I went to STore checked d 75” U8K already . K I was already using flagship U8 but 65” , so i was not expecting much WOW (from TV upgrade) , But only seeking --will it be worth it, if going SIZING UPGRADE. Cuz d tv i have already nice. I just wanted bigger. Like yeah do the 75” it was huge WOW. From sizing upgrade. :)

[@birdtj82]

@@birdsteak9267 U should--SERIOUSLY look into -SHARP- AQUOS-XLED-(MINI LED). (Aquos is their made in Japan utter premium) first time 8 yrs they are coming back to USA. SHARP was d KING-of LED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They were the LG G3 LEVEL for all their flagships. EACH year, their Flagship were $400-600 more than SONY Flagship . Till they left USA in like 2015. Cuz their panels too nice but too expensive. Ppl into Play station just BLIND. They dont even look. Gammers could NOT afford it , family ppl go to buy TV they will ASK BESTBUY “i have $4000 give me nicest TV,” they will suggest ppl “SONY” for their high commission. N THEY WERE Making Actual SONY FLAGSHIP LEDs with their (made in Japan Aquos panel). Ppl bought FLAGSHIP SONY Bravier LOVED SONY so much. , they didnt have clue SHARP made their Flagship LED. Made SONY look so good. THEN SONY Fake the “friendship” cuz they were so crappy in their own Technology that year. That they pulled what Apple 🍎 did when Apple went to Microsoft asking for “HELP”. Once backed up, give them time to develop their OWN “Version”, they try to do Do SHARP dirty. Paying Bestbuy millions to suggest SONY first. That SONY gained reputation for being Elite LED Bravier by SHARP, then Sony set shops in Mexico. Producing their Blooming crappy LED, with blooming, aweful colors, washed OUT!!! N still CHARGING BRAVIER FLAGSHIP price. -thats how they ruined d LED paputation. Due to preditorial sketchy practice of SONY/LG …..(BESTBUY would only suggest SONY first for a $4000 TV--sales pitch, sell ppl what they came/ask for, no need to suggest BETTER to close deal, like they do to alienate Hisense). N lack KZbin review, SHARP always had MORE premium TV. But they were PRICIER. So they were d KING of LED, but d TV branch almost wen bankrupt . Cuz their Aquos panels all MAde in Japan. Expensive shipping. I was lucky that I was able to snatch a SHARP Aquos(their Aquos were all premium , made in Japan. Their Roku is d cheap line) Quatrum panel. It was before OLED. And all i knew was “oh this new invention of TV with 2 layers stuck together , back LIGHT with LED, dim individual light bump, n front light handle black…. Cuz plasma is too dim, LCD i has blooming issue. This panel dont u get to have BEST image” The word QLED did not exist. It’s just called --Back LIT LED. D FAllowing years, at least 3 4 yrs later, ppl bought $2800 SONY still got so MAD 😡 when they visit my house like “why is MY Brand new LED that I did so much research , look SOOOOOO DATED comparing yours??? BUT isn’t yours bought 3-4 yrs ago??????? Not ONLY your TV look more Newer GEN, u made my $2800 tv look like $800!! How is this even POSSIBLE. So strange.” ---no wonder SONY/lg ruin LED reputation. They launch lower LED tech , charge PREMIUM MONEY. In Asia the use to make Hisense/TCL etc make their high quality panels but turn around to charge ppl SONY price. Seriously --SHARP Aquos, XLED, (mini led). 2000 local dimming. JSUT launched in USA 🇺🇸first time last 8 yrs. Because its so premium but out of sight out of mind for so long , it’s SO “cheap” (for premium TV). In REQUIRING new customer phase. They are doing their 75” flagship (in USA) for $2999 now. THATS ROCK Bottom price. Thast when u hear ppl on comments of SHARP XLED coming back all FREAKING OUT. They were d ROCROICE of LED . When they left USA,,,LED innovation slowed. SHARP was the DRIVING high TV LED image level. N LG FAKE d Elite”i have made OLED, dim but black”. Bullshit, cuz SHARP already had similar QLED technology deep black , utter bright vibrancy. I am suggesting cuz u seem to be interested getting 75” . i dont think SONY come with 75” for 95L. 90L is Major down grade with Blooming. (Small but VERY noticable blooming) . U know how APPLE iPad, n iPhone screen just MUCH nicer than Samsung n etc. same thing with SHARP. I cant explain. U HAVE to see it to witness it. They use Diff technology that they have patterns . That’s why Sony LG LED users to be so ugy as flat blooming boring. U should--SERIOUSLY look into -SHARP- AQUOS-XLED-(MINI LED). (Aquos is there made in Japan utter premium) first time 8 yrs came back to USA. SHARP was d KING-of LED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They were the LG G3 LEVEL for all their flagships. EACH year, their Flagship were $400-600 more than SONY Flagship . Till they left USA in like 2015. Cuz their panels too nice but too expensive. Ppl into Play station just BLIND. They dont even look. Gammers could NOT afford it , family ppl go to buy TV they will ASK BESTBUY “i have $4000 give me nicest TV,” they will suggest ppl “SONY” for their high commission. SONY pulled what Apple 🍎 did to Microsoft. SONY had LESSER TV technology. So it went to SHARP to strike a deal for FLAGSHIP PREMIUM LED. To buy them like 2 yrs for themselves to develop own SONY LED. So ppl USED to buy “oh Sony so premium” was buying Sharp AQUOS (made in Japan) panel. Sony/LG/Samsung set shops in Mexico. Producing their Blooming crappy LED, with blooming, aweful colors, washed OUT!!! N still CHARGING BRAVIER FLAGSHIP price. -thats how they ruined d LED paputation. Due to preditorial sketchy practice of SONY/LG …..(BESTBUY would only suggest SONY first for a $4000 TV--sales pitch, sell ppl what they came/ask for, no need to suggest BETTER to close deal, like they do to alienate Hisense). N lack KZbin review, SHARP always had MORE premium TV. But they were PRICIER. So they were d KING of LED, but d TV branch almost wen bankrupt . Cuz their Aquos panels all MAde in Japan. Expensive shipping. Seriously --SHARP Aquos, XLED, (mini led). 2000 local dimming. JSUT launched in USA 🇺🇸first time last 8 yrs. Rock bottom price. SONY, TCL has RBG panel their color has weird tone to it. SHARP has MORE HIGH luminance similar to Samsung EXTREMELY vibrancy buttery Luminance . I cant explain. My old $4000 SHARP 2 panel led ruined SONY for my husband. SoNY is good for Paying ppl Suggesting their product as best. :)

[@rickt.223]

I feel like I missed the TV Basics 101 course and skipped directly to Mini LEDs in the Modern Era 301.

[@jhford1]

Great videos. We have a 65" LG SM8100AUA, which I think was manufactured in the late Medieval period. 🤔Most of the content we watch is streamed from either KZbin TV, KZbin Premium, or PBS. Will we see a substantial difference between our ancient LG and the U8K considereing the content we watch?

[@Renozable]

You most likely will. Especially on terms of contrast and HDR performance. Your current tv is using an IPS Panel with low contrast ratio. Oled will blow your mind :-)

[@jhford1]

Thanks for replying. I've been unable to find any online discussion or review of the 65U75K with mini led tech which Costco has on sale for $699.99, so I'm not sure what U75K means. The model number is very close to U8K. Do you know about this model? Is it a private label model U8K just for Costco? Of course, no one at Costco has an answer. What do you think? Thanks again.

[@nahlho1807]

Thanks, FOMO. In the 98" size TV, could you review and compare between TCL 98R754 vs Samsung Q80C?

[@stopthefomo]

I'll review the 98" X90L but unlikely to have a side by side comparison

[@fierceflyer5]

Why wear glass frames with no lenses? Do you think it makes you look smarter? What’s the point?

[@stopthefomo]

CORRECT. It does make me look smarter, it's all about perception - the minute the glasses come off, I'm suddenly less authoritative for some reason. Imagine how much smarter Barbie looks if she wore my glasses? BOOM

[@birdtj82]

Lol it’s an Asian thing . I had a gf keeps doing it . Its like ppl used to wear watch they feel weird not using it .

[@av_rob79]

Buying a 75 x90l. Told my buddy yesterday and he said I should get a TCL qm8. Well I showed him this video and he's starting to see how superior processing beats out more dimming zones and sub-par processing. I already own an A80J now adding an x90l for the bedroom. Sony is truely the best

[@zadarblack]

My picture processing is handled by a nvidia shield tv pro that even up to this day destroys any tv at upscaling ect by a large margins (even sony) so processing is something you can fix. Lack of contrast, colors and Brightness is a lots harder to fix.

[@wojtek-33]

@@zadarblack That's not how picture processing works. You are acting like the Shield does everything, which is 100% not the case.

[@zadarblack]

The TCL QM851G has superior motion handling compared to the Sony Bravia 9. When both TVs are properly calibrated, their color accuracy is similar. However, the TCL QM851G has better black levels after calibration. The Bravia 9 needs its local dimming set to "medium" to match the TCL's brightness in highlights, which reduces its contrast. Alternatively, the Bravia 9 can be set to a much dimmer screen to be able to slightly beat it on black level but end up crushing the black so the tradeoff is not very good. The TCL QM851G also has a significantly brighter screen overall. The Sony Bravia 9 has better upscaling capabilities than the TCL, but using an external device like the NVIDIA Shield can improve the TCL's upscaling performance to a similar level and arguably better has you can adjust the upscaling on the Nvidia shield something you can't on any tv. What even worst is most reviewers of the TCL did it before the update that came a few weeks after. That update fixed the EOTF tracking in HDR, made colors management tighter and greatly improved black level. Go read rting comparison of both tv then take into account the update and you will understand that Sony lost and at a much higher price. I could go on by example sony has a much worst grey and black uniformity and end up having more dirty screen effect as well. Hell even input lag it inferior. So yeah if you compare out of the box settings, tv not updated and low quality content with no solid upscaling third party device like a shield tv or apple tv. Sure Sony is better. Now check rting comparison between the x90L from sony versus the qm851g... Its not even close..

[@wojtek-33]

@zadarblack the qm8 is a good TV on a budget

[@zadarblack]

@@wojtek-33 its the best non OLED tv available. You better off investing into a qm851g + professional calibrator and a Shield tv pro ( or apple tv ) than purchasing any others non oled.

[@CH-XC2011]

My TCL 75QM8 has been great. Especially at $1800

[@Davidc9356]

Just picked one up,and compared to my Sony A80j ,I actually prefer the brightness of the TCL.

[@bungalowtomcat1]

Total Love the Explaining in this and the Images are great,,,, What you show us,,,,,,,,,, Can you do more of this on TV'S

[@sydneyatutahi3927]

Awesome Review my Fomo friend 🤙🏼✊🏼👌🏼

[@MM-Official]

Excellent topic and well covered too, X90L is the best Sony FALD since their mighty 2017 line up (x900e and x93e)

[@slottygw2wvw842]

Still rocking a 900E and that my friend was a KICK @$$ TV!!!

[@craigslistuser12]

Fomo, great video but I am still conflicted after watching it. I am deciding between the 98" Sony X90L vs 98" TCL QM8. I will only use it for 4k blu ray movies in a dark room. I am a movie buff. A feeling of depth to the image, with a 2D image feeling 3D, is important to me. Both are the same price at $10,000. Which one would you recommend in this scenario?

[@viper12383]

Has there been any update on the QM8 with 3000 nits and 5000 dimming zones that was teased at CES?

[@birdtj82]

The 5000 Local dimming zone is NOT QM8-its Hisense UX 85” .

[@craigslistuser12]

The 98" version of the QM8 has 5000 dimming zones, the smaller size versions have less.

[@AlexanderXtcSlayin]

Great video, and point. But if the Sony had the mini led and dimming zones of the qm8, I would get it in a heartbeat. Combining Sony’s superior image quality, processing, and color, along with the tech would be a dream. I would like to see the qn95c thrown into this fight, although Samsungs image quality, processing, and color is not as good as Sony’s.

[@stopthefomo]

You're basically referring to the Sony X95L which sadly only comes in 85" (for USA) - maybe the 65" Sharp with 2000 zones and miniLED will be that TV this year?

[@AlexanderXtcSlayin]

@@stopthefomo very interested to see how that performs

[@techsamurai11]

Yeah, it would be interesting to see how a Sony with 1,000 dimming zones would perform. The X95L seemed to be very close to Sony's reference monitor and it has 480 dimming zones. Doubling that would certainly improve it but I do wonder if you'd be able to see a difference. On the other hand, I do suspect that tripling the X90L's to 240 would produce very similar results to the X95L which is very important for subtitles.

[@birdtj82]

@@stopthefomo hey I am so excited to SHARP. I had their LED , they were land slide 🛝 crushing SONY. They didnt spend enough money advertising tho. Super glad Sharp came back to USA. They left the -premium TV space long ago only selling their premiums in Japan/China. N they are like d G3 price there lol.

[@antonioprado8068]

​@@stopthefomoWhat model is a sharp that you're talking about

[@trevors98]

so much info and so hard to decide. this is my dilemma... 75" sony x90l vs 75" qm8 vs 65" a95k. for my Livingroom tv. all 3... are the same price. (the a95k is an open box deal). I like the bigger 75" size but not sure if I'd be happier with a smaller a95k picture quality...

[@IIISHARKIIICRU]

When is the qm8 be on sale

[@junguo3088]

I choose TCL. Top performance.

[@thePavuk]

That Pan scene... 10:34 yes, sony show more details, but it's underexposed compared to TCL

[@badpuppy3]

I'm curious to see a Mini-LED tv with a 720p backlight Matrix, once the tech advances enough. I presume you could then have an 8K color filter on top to resolve the fine detail, but the HD backlight image wouldn't need to be as precise.

[@shugo7337]

The issue is cost, it gets exponentially more expensive to up the dimming zone counts supposedly. I doubt we'll ever see an LCD TV with over 900,000 dimming zones tbh. It would either cost more than OLED by a wide margin, or by the time we'd get there, MicroLED TV's would probably be getting cost competitive and readily available, and superior to LCD in every way.

[@badpuppy3]

@@shugo7337 I'm saying it would be a cheaper option to manufacture than direct view MicroLED, especially for future 8K resolutions in TV's 65" or smaller, because they wouldn't have to get the individual LED's so small, but still have a near perceptible contrast. Having 900,000 individual LED's will be a lot easier to achieve than 33 million.

[@ExecuteOrder66Jack]

That starfield test is very revealing. Glad I made the switch to oled years ago and haven’t looked back

[@FreyVII]

I think this goes to show why Sony is more expensive than the other brands. You are really paying for a higher end processor and more polish. That being said, the QM8 still seems like a great TV for the price. So it really comes down to what you care about and what you are willing to spend. If you are in the market for a very good QLED TV, can't go wrong with either for most people.

[@user-gf4dc4no6w]

Where to get Starfield test video?

[@yolandedirep7548]

Can you review Panasonic MX950 mini led tv Vs Sony X95L too?

[@stopthefomo]

sadly, we don't get any Panasonic TVs in the USA - they left our market years ago! But I can tell you the Sony X95L is a better TV based on reviews in other regions.

[@davolcX]

I appreciate this video very much. Thank you so much.

[@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч]

X90L is not bad for SDR content. But in HDR raised blacks and light leakage to blacks bars will be very annoying. Me

[@trevortimmermans6457]

i use my 85' qm8 every day and it's beautiful

[@trevortimmermans6457]

i couldnt afford the sony lol

[@AlbertoGonzalez-tu4nz]

Hows the QM8?