Streaming Algorithms Are Killing Movies

[@JeffRauseo]

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[@stevemuzak8526]

3 years ago I cancelled all my streaming services and went full physical media. The best decision ever. Now I own stunning movie collection. Life is good

[@amans668]

What about for music m? I am looking to do the same thing but most artists don’t release them on physical media

[@jaybone8119]

You can still purchase and download digital music.

[@amans668]

That’s still technically streamine

[@lamNoJedi]

You can always look at your shelf and know you made the right choice

[@robertt9342]

@@amans668. Not in technical practical way.

[@Geblawi]

The Internet is both the worst and the best thing that has happened to humanity.

[@ParanormalMetalMan]

Well said.. it's both the red AND blue pill simultaneously...

[@donnellcoleman7784]

That just life

[@richardpoirier2506]

It's made some aspects of life easier, but in some cases it's made life and society in some cases worse.

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

I say that all the time

[@doctorforesight1480]

Your best friend and your worst enemy 💻

[@jamesmickey]

I still enjoy collecting physical media and I find myself to actually watch the movies I pickup both dvds and blu rays , it’s such a fun time browsing the shops looking for movies I’ve never seen. Versus streaming services I find it overwhelming and I end up never watching anything

[@Cotygeek]

My biggest problem is that I'm just...stuck on my watchlists. I spend more time trying to pick a movie than actually watching one.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Then fix your problem

[@MPhill1973]

I love the services that have a "Leaving Soon" section. Usually a smaller selection to browse and I have motivation to pick that film now as they are pulling it at the end of the month.

[@Chrisratata]

I was proud of myself a couple weeks ago. The new movie Suncoast popped up on the front page of Hulu when I got home from work and I just clicked play. Ended up being a nice little film

[@jeffleonard343]

Haha it’s worse when you’re picking a movie and your brain goes “why aren’t you hustling and making more money??” or “Life is short. Get off Netflix!”

[@Cotygeek]

@@jeffleonard343I feel that one.

[@jonkeller8155]

You are 100% correct. I’m 51 and spent my youth working in record and video stores then moved into distribution before streaming killed the industry. I miss the human interaction. Getting recommended things that expand your knowledge.

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

We are the same age. I used to love going to into Blockbuster or other smaller places and checking up staff recommendations. In the 90's I saw so many great movies. I was working at an AMC Theaters at the time also, so we would see everything that came out. It shaped my love for movies. I find it harder and harder to collect physical discs because of space limitations. I am already busting at the seams. I don't need to own everything I want to watch, but at the same time, sometimes I want to watch something and it isn't on any of the streaming services I have, and we have several. Just the other day, I wanted to watch The Usual Suspects and it's not streaming anywhere. Time to hook up the old PS3 and find an HDMI cord sitting around.

[@starman15317]

Very good point you made on recent movies that played theatrically having this new appraisal on streaming services. I noticed this with Saltburn recently. It opened in theaters as an MGM movie, played for about a month and did moderately well, but then Amazon (who owns MGM) put the film on Prime Video, rebranded it as a Prime Original, and suddenly it became an overnight sensation. That was all in the span of a couple months, so it's a little different than someone discovering a 2021 movie now, but it feels very intentional.

[@loganj514]

MGM is owned by Amazon, and Saltburn was made for Prime. They have it a theatrical release so that they would be eligible for standard awards. So it is a Prime original, it just got a short theatrical release before it hit the streaming service.

[@Geblawi]

@@loganj514 Oh. Thanks for clarifying. 🙌🏻

[@Hammerstein46]

I`ve always wondered why some music tracks have millions viewing, mostly garbage. But in the same time I´ve found best music from unknown artists. Same with my BR collection, I started collectin everything from 80s, B movies first.

[@pretentiouscameron7815]

We all took Blockbuster & Hollywood Video for granted.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Blockbuster still alive the last blockbuster

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Gamestop still here

[@avgnfandon2]

Relax, nobody took either of those for granted

[@Chrisratata]

​@@avgnfandon2 in the latter years of Blockbuster's fade out, people complained about them being greedy for charging late fees. Some people will always find a reason to complain

[@Criner05]

Some did, but a lot of us never did.@@avgnfandon2

[@larryparker6459]

Last week while teaching, I mentioned Batman Begins in a conversation about Chris Nolan. None of my Senior class had ever seen it.

[@redrock425]

I think that's the best of the trilogy.

[@ThomasArt85]

Wow! That's odd

[@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784]

Wow!! ... and you didnt even pick what i would consider to be a old movie, its from 2005 (Not old IMO).

[@marksmovieroom]

​@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 it'll be 20 years old next year. Do you feel old yet? 😅

[@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784]

@@marksmovieroom In the history of films 20 years is nothing though, thats not even out of the superhero phase and into the action film decade.

[@DangerousDevilOfficial]

The recommendations on the streamers for films for me the past six months have been absolutely horrible. I have gone back to picking out my own films by myself. I can’t trust their “recommends” anymore…

[@ben99ny69]

What you said made absolutely no sense. Why is what's recommended a hard rule. Even online, you can get bad recommendations. What makes a streaming service any different? How are they supposed to give you exactly what you want?

[@DangerousDevilOfficial]

@@ben99ny69 not sure how very basic concept algorithm recommendations from the services doesn’t make sense. They make recommendations. All of the services do it basically. Their recommendations recently have been quite bad. What about that is there to not get or doesn’t make sense? 🤦‍♂️

[@ben99ny69]

@@DangerousDevilOfficial What makes their recommendations bad? I dont even a recommendation section. Unless "we think you'll love these" is that. But that has movies I already have on my list and movies I had already seen. I do see they have apollo 13 and summit of the gods which i wanna see.

[@DangerousDevilOfficial]

@@ben99ny69 What makes it bad? Again, their recommendations of films I am supposed to like have been terrible. Have watched a few of the recommends and they are definitely not films I would pick on my own, nor are most of them any good films on their own merit. Not every service labels it “we think you will love these”. They all label them or list them a bit differently. But yes, when is says “we think you will love these” that is definition of a recommendation…

[@ben99ny69]

@@DangerousDevilOfficial I still don't understand. Why are you so hell bent on netflixs recommendations? How are they supposed to even perfectly recommend you films? Especially with the limited movies that they do have. And how would netflix know you liked a movie unless you gave it a thumbs up. If you like Hacksaw Ridge. Are they supposed to recommend you war movies and Mel Gibson movies. But what if you don't actually like war movies or Mel Gibson?

[@joegiammatteo]

I’ve heard the same issues a lot with music. Rick Beato made a great YT video after the Usher halftime show, explaining how we are going to run out of huge global artists who could be future halftime performers bc we’re so silo’d into algorithms now.

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

I talk about that all the time. Many of who we think as Global are literally dying off. Many are in their 70's. The last of an era would be artists from the early 2000's but after that the world is so fragmented with taste. Also the past 10 years many artists have such vulgar lyrics, the NFL won't touch that, and who the hell wants to hear the Lumineer's at the Superbowl? GTFOOH!

[@Blendeture]

Great subject! Human curation is the key. The CD industry in the UK seems well alive, and a journalist named Jon Savage has been compiling top-notch CD mixtapes since 2015, of really great but obscure songs. An incredible way to discover music from the 60s, 70s and 80s. It's also such a cool feeling to hold a CD containing such old gold, and a label that says "©2024"

[@deceptiondestroyer3532]

Netflix algorithm used to be awesome back in like 2016/17. it used to be a that you would make a ratting on a 5-star scale and it would cater the recommendations to the movies that you have already rated. I had rated thousands of movies and the recommendations were usually great ... then they changed it and nearly a decade of catering my account was down the tubes. It was when people hated its original content (Amy Shumer Leather Special anybody?) that it changed for the worst. Now it is worthless.

[@JurassicJoey17]

Great video! I’m also 31, and it’s been cool watching you grow the channel over the last few years. Keep it up 👍

[@sykodjiuia]

Yeah, I'm so concerned about getting stuck in an algorithm that I stay away from streaming services. To me they're a media ghetto. I prefer first learning about a movie, then track it down and watch it. Also, to find the classics I remember from growing up and tracking down copies. I really have a desire to actively pursue the best things that suit my interests rather than seeing a small catalog of what's being offered and settle on something from there when I know there's something more interesting elsewhere.

[@Nicathatsme]

Well said. I think choosing with intention rather than settling feeds the soul. The reverse feeds apathy.

[@petemarshall3512]

I think the key is to decide what you want to watch beforehand, then figure out how/where to watch it. If you let streaming services determine what you want to watch, you're watching what THEY want you to watch.

[@CaptinNabil7]

Now that you mentioned it, I do find this problem affecting everyone in my family. Being with how they rely on the streaming model. They often choose things that don't appeal to my tastes. I feel this a result of the algorithm on all streaming platforms. Including KZbin. Which even my niece, at 3 years old, is growing up with her life being driven by algorithms, like KZbin's. So yeah, I found this video real helpful in a problem that I now opened up to. Which is why I intend to use less streaming platforms, being we hardly have much subscriptions lately, due to their anti-consumer business practices, and hope to spend more time with watching movies on physical media. Overall, I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.

[@MusicalJourneysThruCinema]

When I watch movies on streaming services, I completely disregard the algorithm. My strategy is to find the A-Z section and add every movie I've heard of and been wanting to watch into a watch list. That way, I can just go right to it and there's everything I've wanted to see in one place. Or I will look up which streaming service has the movie I want then I'll go there and ignore everything else on the homepage.

[@SteviesCornerYouTubeChannel]

I'm 100% with you about those algorithms which push the consumer only on things that are similar to view or listen. BTW, since I didn't get any reaction or comment about gems to discover, I'll copy my text here and I strongly suggest them to you if you want to discover other great movies : Avalon, Equilibrium, Natural City, Returner.

[@RMS5006]

Just canceled all streaming. We're on to thier tricks. My own collection was always vastly superior. The new stuff was inticing but when go thru their stuff realize it's just a bunch of mediocre or less stuff. Like volume over quality. So physical media is the way to go. No more chasing titles that are on this platform that platform & the other platform.

[@FondestAlloy56]

Idk when the rebranding happened but im here for it well needed for sure

[@brenttichenor3302]

Love my Criterion channel. Always something I've never seen before.

[@pete49327]

I made similar comment too, only streamer I have now is The Criterion Channel. I'm in and out of it about one or two months at a time, leave for couple months, come back in as newer titles emerge I haven't seen, I'll watch them and if impressed enough I'll buy the blu-ray. About 3/4 of my modest Criterion library first screened on their channel.

[@moviesbye9294]

Criterion is crap!

[@darthopper7874]

I've gotten the Blockbuster experience at used record and book stores, they often have a substantial movie selection. Sometimes there are pawn shops that seem to have a lot of blu-rays and 4k.

[@SupraDeluxx-ro1qg]

I started a 4k collection this last december. my collection is already pretty amazing. but i wanted to get some stuff i never seen before. i wanted to take recommendations, and that how i found your channel. i was shopping on a ebay store where i been buying alot of movies. and i saw a film that i wanted to take a risk on. so i watched it then immediately bought it. its called "Brotherhood of the Wolf". and its amazing. its a 20 year old french film that no one knows, no one talks about online. and has some real world connection. it was a true diamond in the rough for me. if you havent seen it, you will love it. its a good length movie, because it just keeps going and going and it was a good thing. because i didnt want it to end. im actually still in the process of finding some 4k forgotten kino films that i never experienced before to add to my collection.

[@DarrenKrusi]

I actually have a hard time watching anything on Netflix for any length of time. I blame my terrible attention span on watching KZbin. Physical media on the other hand I will go through my collection and select a movie to watch for the full duration. I agree with you on the music streaming. I use KZbin Music and it's so frustrating to hear anything beyond the 100 or 200 songs it keeps playing on loop. I loved Google Play Music, that had an awesome song recommendation algorithm that seems to have been ignored for the rubbish KZbin seems to be using instead. Strangely enough though KZbin's algorithm for sending random awesome channels and clips is excellent.

[@GioDrago]

I actually use you as my guide to seek out movies that may interest me, I'd say I've enjoyed about 70% of the movies i thought would be interesting to me based on your recommendations. You do great work :)

[@Chaso-1124]

Algorithms like this ruined finding new music for me. I used to go on KZbin and find a song or person i liked and would end up going down a rabbit hole with all the different recommendations for each video which introduced me to different songs and different people i wasnt aware of. Now if i try to do this it will just recommend the same stuff i already listened to (and already fairly mainstream) and very rarely, if ever, recommends something ive not been exposed to or outside of the mainstream

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

Finding new music is a bit easier for me on Spotify, I do like to take riskier chances with bands, and I find a lot I have never heard of, if I start to search for "bands Like" whatever is currently playing. The sad part is I don't have as much time to listen and really get into new music like I used to.

[@Chaso-1124]

@twentyoneplusvideo0472 A lot of songs I have found were not officially released on an album so wouldn't be found on Spotify or something

[@chrisfratz]

Honestly, I never would have checked out movies like The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes if I didn't see it while browsing through Disney Movie club. It's not the best movie ever but it's still really fun.

[@TheAugustus24]

Im 36, and i had this same issue for music. I could not find new music for years. What has helped me out the past few years has been Tiktok. I find more new/different music on their platform than any other. Music I never would have discovered any other way sometimes. Anyways I just found that to be a game changer for me in terms of finding new music.

[@huttjos85]

You kind of blew mind when you mentioned how some of the younger gens didn’t know there were older Halloween movies, lol. Holy smokes.

[@redrock425]

I had a conversation yesterday where a colleague in her thirties had only just seen Top Gun, the first one 😮 I recommended Training Day to another 30 something friend who really enjoyed it. My current tip for a dark comedy is "God bless America".

[@izi_Lk]

100% agree. I hate getting the same category of movies or music. I actually stop using the apps when they show the same thing over and over. Same with KZbin, same type of videos gets annoying.

[@jackrosati1438]

Funny you say this, because I feel like my music discovery has gotten better since getting into Vinyl

[@oliversmith797]

One of the writers I've been looking at with my youth theatre is Kenneth Lonergan (Manchester By The Sea) who has written some amazing plays. But I was telling this one girl about his film Margaret (2012) and she came back to the youth theatre the next week saying "I looked everywhere for that film and couldn't find it, there are no clips of it on Tik Tok at all, it's like it doesn't exist". And trying to explain to that girl how unlikely it is she'd find a clip of that film on Tik Tok was bizarre, they don't know they're in a bubble, they think everything is on there, and things from before 2015 are of course ancient history.

[@jimliedeka3978]

One way I find movies is recommendations from Darren Van Damme. He has fairly broad tastes so there's usually something for everyone.

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

I am a fan. He does good work, but I still find myself scrolling longer than I would like.

[@mwrightinsurance]

I notice it every day and was thinking about calling Netflix and asking them to create a filter view to remove content you’ve either rated or watched. Sometimes I spend an hour looking for something I haven’t seen or don’t own and then just don’t watch anything..

[@susanpratt3290]

I found DVD’s at Half Priced Bookstores and checked the condition of them. Found Starsky and Hutchins 2nd Season and bought it at $7.99. They also have albums, CD’s, tapes and 45 records. Other places, Walmart and Target.

[@marcelo1x1]

Such great insights man! Glad to know you now have over 120k subs! I subbed to your channel since you had 10k I think haha Congrats

[@vinalboy]

I couldn't agree more. As it turns out the channel I watch most is the Criterion Channel. I really wish that Warner/Discovery would release a Turner Classic Movie streaming service.

[@Criner05]

Max has a TCM section.

[@awesome1212ify]

Good topic, you should start doing lil docs, about the behind the scenes of movies on the consumer side of things.

[@НинаМаськова-ж5щ]

If people want to discover movies they have all tools for it - imdb lists, KZbin, Wikipedia. Algorithm is not the blame for lazyness.

[@JeffRauseo]

Of course they have other tools. But they aren’t the primary way people are discovering entertainment. They’re living in the streaming ecosystem and that ecosystem does not do a great job of taking risks and giving good recommendations

[@Topgamer-nz7sd]

The sort of thing where streaming services change lines I’ve noticed a few different times one in particular was with the Netflix stream of scooby doo 2 monsters unleashed I don’t know if that’s still on there but on the physical version of it one of shaggy’s was “why don’t we investigate a Burger King or something?” In the Netflix stream I’ve seen of it, it was replaced with “why don’t investigate a kfc or something?”

[@SunyJim]

I have noticed it. I just found Border (2008) from a random reddit post in a non movie forum. Wow great film. Same with saw a youtube video about special effects talking about The Creator (2023), and really liked that as well.

[@actualnotanewbie]

I don't ask my bookshelf which blu ray I should watch, and I don't ask Hulu which streaming show I should watch either.

[@andymasterson8059]

In the spirit of this video i heartily recommend what i think is one of the best modern 'zombie' films - The Girl With All The Gifts. It's got a cracking cast, Glen Close, Gemma Arterton, Paddy Considine. You may have a hard time finding a copy, but it's well worth it!

[@MarryMeSenpai]

I had that issue with Spotify my discover mix started playing the same songs.

[@DBCooper31]

Lol like when people mention the Stephen Sommers/Brendan Fraser as the “original” Mummy 😢😂

[@gmcorneby]

Hi there! I appreciate your positive outlook. I agree it's come to a point where some seek perfection. But please still at least give a simple technical opinion on Blu-ray vs 4k because there is that less than 1% of 4k's that are worse than the Blu-ray. Most collectors need your views in order to avoid mistakes in buying egregiously inferior 4k's. Please note I refer only to those that are "egregiously inferior".

[@JeffRauseo]

Of course! The major releases will get coverage, and if they are bad, meh, or good, I will cover that. But the focus should be less on pixel peeping and more on overall presentation and the total package, the majority of which is the movie itself.

[@postmodernrecycler]

Ugh, I saw this problem a few years ago on KZbin. One day in 2018 all of my reco's sucked, went to only stuff with 100 million views, were irrelevant, and never updated.

[@RMS5006]

One of the other issues is it seems difficult to find movies that are 1 or 2 yrs old on any streaming or mod. Like we can fing Oppenheimer no problem but can't find the new Emma stone film anywhere. Or killer of the moon.

[@JoelsterG4k]

I have discovered great songs and artists that I never heard on youtube music and same with Netflix, I've watched movies I didn't even know they existed, I am actually happy with the services.

[@Jimmy.1979]

I've noticed this on music apps. They will play the same stuff over and over again. There are deep cuts on KZbin music, but it's just that. The song is from the same 30 albums, but it's the crap you don't want to listen to..

[@markluney9857]

Amazon seems to recommend its own stuff, i have been collecting Physical media since 1988, back in the VHS days, i love the original version of The Mechanic, i have it on Blu-Ray

[@babymaker13th]

Just came from Best Buy and hold and behold no dvd’s ?? What happen Jeff this sucks I like going to best buy every Tuesday to see what’s new and I can read the back of these dvds to see the extras

[@ericwolffstudio]

KZbin drives me nuts. In my feed, it just keeps repeating the same kinds of content. It's as-if KZbin does not want you to broaden your thinking. Keep watching the same thing day after day...

[@StaticBlaster]

It's their recommender system implemented by Machine learning algorithms. yeah it's annoying but youtube unfortunately doesn't care about creativity. they want you to keep clicking on videos that are similar to your interests based on your prior viewing experience.

[@Chaso-1124]

You refresh the page and it just shows the same videos over and over just in a different order

[@ilijacogelja6580]

I talked to my coworker who is 19 . I sad that my favorite actor is Jack Nicholson . And he doesn't even know who he is. I think the thing is the urge for watching older movies. Which is huge thing for me. I really crave some 60 "s and 70 's movies and even older ones, but they are NOWHERE on my HBOmax

[@Chaso-1124]

It's just bizarre to me. I'm 25, so not that old, but I have watched and enjoyed movies my whole life. Including the classics and stuff much older than me. Many others around my age or slightly younger seem to be clueless about anything older than say 5 years ago. 10 years ago is ancient dinosaur age to them. The disconnect is huge

[@ilijacogelja6580]

@@Chaso-1124 couldn't agree more. Keep exploring older movies if you can . I know who Charles Bronson, Charles Huston, Henry Fonda and Yul Bryner are and I'm 27 .

[@ilijacogelja6580]

I forgot to mention that only older movies that are popular in moderm day are Taxi Driver , Fight Club and American Psycho. And if you ask me , that's alarming

[@excalibur2024guy]

Don't you have access to TCM via MAX?

[@ilijacogelja6580]

@@excalibur2024guy what's a TCM ?

[@jeffleonard343]

I’ll never forget how folks in a comment section in early 2010s were quoting “In Bruges” so i decided I had to check it out. Maaan it did not disappoint!

[@michaelflaherty3202]

I keep a list of movies I'm interested in. It's got recommendations from other more knowledgable places, i.e. Ebert's Great Movies, oscar winners, sight and sound, other movies by directors I already know I like etc. Movies move between platforms pretty often, which makes maintaining a list on one service difficult.

[@Gaminating]

The abundance of ads are taking the joy out of it too.

[@halloweenlady4073]

for Halloween I bought a reaper band that I can stream any music to. So I kept trying to search you tube and google for Halloween metal/rock/punk. It just kept giving me the old classics and spooky sounds. The only way I even found Ice Nine Kills was through a facebook group, a member recommended them. They were JUST what I needed and I was an instant fan but you tube was not at all helpful. After I liked all their stuff and kept trying to type in Halloween metal at last it also recommended Dark Devine who was also perfect but it was a battle to get much.

[@slipstigertv]

Netflix should add a social tab for friends, family, and strangers seeing what they are watching and recommending

[@MPhill1973]

What drives me nuts about them is they also do not seem to know what they are doing. For example, say I watch Halloween, I'll get "since you watched Halloween we recommend Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw, Hellraiser...My Little Pony?" I see things like this all the time.

[@pete49327]

The Criterion Channel rocks. I cancelled all the major premium streamers years ago, and totally satisfied with Criterion Channel supplementing my blu-ray library.

[@jonfish490]

Streaming services are becoming trash. Taking away movies games shows. I know the copyright ends or switches to a different company, but it’s up to the highest bitter and they are trying to force people into paying more and more for add-ons.

[@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784]

I have neices and nephews and all they watch is modern movies that are usually of the superhero genre, its very hard to get them to watch anything thats been made outside of the last 10 years. I was born in the 80's and i make it a personal mission to watch cult films of all genre's and eras from all the way back to 1949 to present day.

[@ricahrdb]

It is a sad state of affairs that technology is getting better all the time but that one's possibilities to find interesting new content is getting worse. Already noticed that a long time ago: specifically with music.

[@jonathannoble9465]

One thing I’ve always hated about streaming is you can’t simply look through the entire catalog from A-Z. Unlike with a physical media collection 😏

[@CPBuff22]

This is why those of us who do love movies and collect physical media need to show these movies to our kids & they can tell their friends. My 20yo just recommended one of his friends watch a bunch of A24 titles he enjoyed because she couldn’t find anything to watch. And personally I have streaming services recommend me movies I already watched on that service next to movies I have absolutely no interest in & often even movies I hated.

[@lonewolf1369]

The algorithms are also doing what most younger people do anyway. They ignore older movies/tv shows because they think they're "too old" or look grainy/dated/crappy or whatever. They are herd animals and will watch what their friends and peer groups are watching and what's "cool" these days. Ie newer shows and movies despite how crappy they are. They treat it like commodities now, they consume a streaming program and once they're done it's thrown in the garbage and forgotten about until the next new crappy release on Netflix. That's the norm and will be the norm until it gets worn out and finally meets its death at some point in far future when even the newer generations have had enough.

[@logandockery1512]

Hey Jeff will physical media ever go back to being a thing in the mainstream while streaming goes back to the underground or whatever

[@chrissexton4129]

Max has a great selection of incredible films like 8 1/2, Blood Simple, Solaris, The Red Shoes, and Breathless, but I’ve never been recommended them, I’ve always had to search for them by name.

[@Criner05]

That's primarily because Warner owns HBO and TCM. I really wish you could say you like or don't like something and then have Max recommend stuff based on what you've liked. Plus, Max's sections are not good. I found "Pootie Tang" in the action section.

[@Hicks-g1m]

I agree I want to start a band and get noticed but I want to do it the old school way too many streaming services

[@leehawkins616]

Point noted about the algorythm (computer programme), but do people just rely on the app for finding new stuff. I look way outside the app for new things to watch. There are still movie magazines, millions of websites. Personally I just ignore the stuff served up by the app, find out what I want to watch from wherever that comes from, then see which of my services has it to watch. Are people so reliant on the apps that they can't do some research on the types of films they are interested in outside of an app? Maybe they are, I don't know. I'm 46 years old, so remember the time before the internet, and way before apps (again, computer programmes). I don't find it hard to find my own stuff, and I don't find it hard to ignore the same old recommendations. Maybe the younger generations don't do things the same way. Do they really stay in that bubble?

[@hectoraguilar397]

I curious to know what you think about the new super disc that was invented not to long ago that holds 22 terabytes of data. Do you think it may translate to 8k disc in the future? Will it change physical media in anyway? Also an idea for a short or tik tok, your top 5 academy award winners in your collection.

[@redrock425]

It really depends on how 4K Blu-ray continues to perform. 8K if it happens, won't anytime soon but may happen as streaming full quality 8K isn't happening for a long time. 4K is also a long way off being streamed at full quality. Think in decades rather than years as infrastructure takes a long time to replace.

[@paulgoodwin3640]

Criterion Channel is good alternative, they really aren't pushing specific titles beyond the theme of the month.

[@brennang.7762]

Seriously I remember when the original Avatar the Last Airbender was put on Netflix and suddenly everyone was like bro have you seen this and I'm like bro I've been on that since it aired on Nickelodeon haha. And everyone freaking out about The Office getting taken of Netflix and I'm chilling with the Blu ray collection.

[@scotttild]

Streaming for TV shows and physical media for movies is how I work.

[@Criner05]

Fortunately some streaming shows are coming to physical media. With that you can watch a season or two on streaming and then cancel it because you know you'll get the blu-ray.

[@stiffrichard2816]

The Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman just got a blu ray scan and they look fantastic! Nothing like the old DVD sets. Roku is streaming them on one of their channels but to purchase the blu rays would be well over $200 for both sets and THAT is why physical media is dying. Unless they get the price down somehow...

[@Burn_In_Oled_On_Purpose]

When I used my friends Netflix account. I could not find shows that I used to watch on live tv. They were a mixture of saturday morning cartoons and sitcoms that I grew up watching from the 90s. I still watch shows from the 90s since they were more entertaining and not being edited and censored compared to the modern version of streaming. I found the shows and even movies from the 90s on free websites and free apps. I used to buy cds and movies when there was a local fye around.

[@steffengerlach8395]

This is nothing of an old man rant 😂, it's just true we are facing an algorithm driven generation ahead. Terrible. And that's where serious and sufficient film criticism becomes more and more important. Great analysis. 😊

[@DavidRiehl756]

I get my music recommendations from reaction channels on KZbin. I listen to rock and metal and channels like MetalBirb and Ohrion Reacts are where I’ve found new bands that I love.

[@Anonymous-wb3nz]

Black Metal Werewolf is an amazing metal KZbinr you should check out.

[@mikevbushy]

I notice this big time…and it’s not interesting I can’t stand any of these platforms anymore….i am ready to just get cable and watch whatever’s on

[@eBoard3R]

*My brother's Netflix recommendations for documentaries are great, on my Netflix they only show up if I search for the title of the docu* 😭😭 The algorithm just tries to feed you more of what it thinks you are into, rather than lettin you customise/choose which type of stuff to show. What I watched before doesn't indicate what I want next, I might watch a mindless action movie then want to watch a thoughtful docu. I miss walkin through Blockbuster lookin for hidden gems, lesser known movies that became cult classics, the straight to DVDs that sometimes yielded an amazin movie that was different to the rest.

[@calvinnme2]

The Criterion Channel is a great way to find new content that goes outside your comfort zone.

[@undyingforce]

Great topic. Thanks for the upload.

[@mediamaniac898]

The algorithms annoy me too! Credit where credit is due, I enjoy the Office Superfan episodes that are exclusive to Peacock.

[@devononair]

I think the algorithms suck, as you point out, but I also think people are lazy and don't seek out new things, read reviews, and just, you know... search the internet for new things. You see this if you discuss where to buy something: everyone defaults to Amazon and has no idea there are other shops out there. As a musician, I notice that people don't even want to click and listen because it hasn't been served up to them by the algorithm. Argh.... I could rant for hours about people's ignorance about how to explore culture.

[@COFFEEWITHJIM]

I have yet to see 'Tetsuo: The Iron Man' ever show up in my recommended list... it will never, ever, ever happen ! Like: ever.

[@lush462]

You know what I hate the most? I end up searching movies on streaming channels for hours and not find a movie I want to actually see. It was way easier back when videothekes existed.

[@briantanner5478]

Streaming services are in so many ways simply the old studio system all over again.

[@doctorsmoothlove]

Sirius XM is the best way know to discover new music. I listen to metal and have found several bands on their channel. If you like the band you can get their music in higher quality.

[@inktvisje575]

At the same time, I was a teen in the 90s and I can tell you teens my age and the majority of people were total slaves to the absolute mainstream there was. People who dug around for indie movies were few and far in between. It's not worse now, it's just a different kind of mainstream.

[@Jennifer-ls5ke]

I've made two independent features, successful ones. I cannot get another one made. I'm despairing.

[@tom_k35]

I've never used recommendations (at least any more) because they really don't reflect my tastes. I like low budget sci-fi/horror movies from the 50s/60s. There's no streaming service that's going to recommend those

[@stevegonzales527]

Been looking for spider man and Netflix didn’t have it at all and I’m not going on a witch hunt to see what streaming service has it. If Disney plus has it then for sure they’re going to edit the movie for the scene where Peter says “That's a cute outfit. Did your husband give it to you.”

[@syntroniccyndi6358]

Old man rant from someone way younger than me 😂you're so right thought. algorithms is an every generation problem i think.

[@abarekilla]

Hey Jeff, off subject but did you ever do a review of the 4K Beastmaster?

[@jirehguy]

This is why I cancelled Netflix. I literally could not find any new movies that weren’t the same 30 shows/movies it always recommended me

[@Danjoker.]

I'm guilty of this. I almost never watch anything that I haven't heard of or at least seen a review of.

[@GatMan808]

I've shared the same opinion for awhile now. Reasons why I love my physical media collection.