JUST A HEADS UP: Lily's EX Condor Spire is projectile invuln when she has a stack of Wind Dee Jay's sway dash is projectile invuln
@Ashen-Crow Жыл бұрын
Pin this my man
@Haka-f3k-u Жыл бұрын
Also Manon's EX Spin has Upper Body Full Invincibility, so she doesn't need to time shit if she burns gauge.
@cerdi_99 Жыл бұрын
@@Haka-f3k-u the timing of the invul is the same regardless, that just lets her punish ppl poking with moves that hit relatively high
@lobster6736 Жыл бұрын
You forgot that Lily's photo taunt can destroy fireballs, definitely character defining
@lukefrancois6173 Жыл бұрын
If lily has windclad stocks, ex condor spire is projectile invulnerable, and it's plus on block. Very good anti-fireball tool imo
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
this is what i get for asking lily mains and trusting them when they said no
@josemonerri512 Жыл бұрын
@@DenOfSin it's important to downplay in the early days 😂
@user-wy1et9dk9w Жыл бұрын
I learned this literally yesterday and it felt kind of unfair lol
@Warsheep2k6 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wy1et9dk9wwhats unfair about it if you Spam her with fast balls she wont have time to get a Stack
@user-wy1et9dk9w Жыл бұрын
@@Warsheep2k6 if you spam fireball any decent player using Lily will parry that garbage and even without a stack will eventually get you with an EX dive. Which will then get her said stack and really all you need is one to be a threat.
@gh0st1n__ Жыл бұрын
Lily can also use her taunt to cancel out 1 hit fireballs. Cool little bit of Trivia
@gh0st1n__ Жыл бұрын
Oh and Deejay sway goes through fireballs as well.
@yano4473 Жыл бұрын
Lily taunt has way too much recovery for it to be anything but funny unfortunately.
@StarrBomba Жыл бұрын
you forget luke's mock hadoken taunt which embarrasses the enemy into never hadokening
@Rasokar Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel recently and I gotta say the work you're doing is great! Concise and to the point about more niche aspects of the game. Love it!
@1000Tomatoes Жыл бұрын
Isn't DJ's sway dash fireball invulnerable.
@kosmonaft Жыл бұрын
Yes
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
*slams head into desk*
@mydrillasanjay5397 Жыл бұрын
@@DenOfSin looks like another addendum is in order
@paz8723 Жыл бұрын
Gotta release that *content* fast you know before anyone else does
@Haka-f3k-u Жыл бұрын
@@DenOfSin The desk, however, was not Projectile Headbutt Invulnerable.
@bigbangtheory0000 Жыл бұрын
You forgot that Geifs Standing HP has a hit of armour and is chargable, so you can use that at a closer range than lariat
@1000Tomatoes Жыл бұрын
Didn't know JP's counter lost to fireballs. Makes it beating throws a little less wild.
@Naota753 Жыл бұрын
It WHAAAAAT!? Signed, a Gief main
@OhNoTheFace Жыл бұрын
No counter should beat throws
@sanicboi9187 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no counter should ever beat throws
@1000Tomatoes Жыл бұрын
@@Naota753 i did say "a little"
@Hotobu Жыл бұрын
So what is someone who doesn't have a fireball supposed to do?
@lalo2513 Жыл бұрын
The information and format or your videos are way to good, im subscribed!
@DarkLitUniverse Жыл бұрын
Something that should probably be added to it's own section is that JP's fireballs (except the grab) can be dashed through, though I don't know which characters this is a viable option for, or how the timing differs for the different versions.
@theedwardian Жыл бұрын
Dashed under or dashed through? I know some characters can low-profile dash under projectiles but if it's universal projectile-immunity that's pretty crazy and unprecedented.
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
i just found out about this and labbed every character and their options against JP and will be doing a vid on that after i finish some more modern stuff
@cerdi_99 Жыл бұрын
@@theedwardian it's not that they're immune, it's that JPs proyectiles dont have a hitbox until they "detect" the other player. So some characters are fast enough with DR or some special move to just go through it before the hitbox activates
@Mackievellian Жыл бұрын
I was playing earlier and purely by accident noticed that OD DP went clean under the hado, nice to know that is deliberate
@lintangtaraqi Жыл бұрын
i think deejay's forward punch follow up after jus cool is fireball invuln
@oracidrep Жыл бұрын
Marisa's superman punches also just go over lots of fireballs, no armor needed.
@randomcatname7792 Жыл бұрын
It's not a good option, but Jamie has a taunt where he lays down and goes under the fireball. Useful for flexing
@AnthonyWhite37 Жыл бұрын
This vid made me remember that 1993 was 30 years ago, crazy
@victorchen547 Жыл бұрын
Chun holding stance itself can go under some fireballs too
@soulwarrior5791 Жыл бұрын
Chun Li can also low profile fireballs by simply staying in Serenity Stream
@pank3245 Жыл бұрын
You also forgot to mention that Blanka has a full screen slide if he uses drive rush. It completely nullifies any fireball game in nuetral. I guess you can say every character can parry a fireball and go into drive rush to close the distance.
@Aetohatir Жыл бұрын
Looks like Kimberly is dancing to the music.
@calcutlass Жыл бұрын
Great video man very informative
@FranckyFox2468 Жыл бұрын
This has been very useful for my and my friend who's been playing and really enjoying SF6. Do you intend to make updated versions later when a certain amount of DLC characters are added?
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
Yep. Every character-specific video will get a full redo when a new season begins.
@Zivhayr Жыл бұрын
Marisa Level 3 and her non-ex phalanx are also great options.
@doomleika Жыл бұрын
Luke’s avenger overhead is fireball invincible, reach’s almost full screen
@Chato13 Жыл бұрын
deejay has a dash that goes thru fireballs too
@niah2209 Жыл бұрын
Chun li stance allows her to just let fireballs fly over her head
@lemoniscence Жыл бұрын
I find Luke’s SA3, Pale Rider, works well against fireballs.
@semi_automatico Жыл бұрын
I believe Blanka's command grab works like tatsu with fireballs and his S3 too
@doldol0494 Жыл бұрын
Dee jay's level 2 is a good way to counter fireballs cause it has so much invul post flash.
@C3lticlord Жыл бұрын
Juri can ex DP to go through them sometimes it goes forward enough to hit them
@ZenryokuFGC Жыл бұрын
Zangief also has charge st.hp which has a hit of armor
@ephrumthesnowball Жыл бұрын
Hondas ex headbutt goes through two hit fireballs
@habijjj Жыл бұрын
Technically if you use it with good timing marisa's dragon punch has lower body invincibility.
@joaquinbitancor1269 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't marisa's superman punch go over fireballs?
@TechnicallyaMoleRat Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've seen it a few times now. Probably has to be a read or lucky timing, though
@GigaHands Жыл бұрын
Yes, but only rather late into the animation. It's not a reliable tool in the slightest for this purpose.
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
I've only been able to get the non EX version to consistently do it on a read and for midrange fireballs its kinda bad. At that point it's about like doing any other move to hit someone you know is about to do a fireball during their startup.
@whopperlu Жыл бұрын
Would like if text stayed on screen a bit longer. As of now it's changing too fast
@Af0 Жыл бұрын
Been playing Manon since launch and I didn't once get a successful attempt with her "anti-fireball" tech. It only works against fast fireballs and even then you have to be so close. Basically useless.
@cerdi_99 Жыл бұрын
against slow fireballs you can use the heavy version and you dont need to hit it, going past the fireball is most of the times just good enough as you are getting closer (which is ultimately what u want as manon)
@alexg582 Жыл бұрын
what is the point of using fireballs at long distance at all if they can just be parried
@Perukkrecabruh Жыл бұрын
Luke's SA3 can pass under projectiles.
@tiagoj8020 Жыл бұрын
Great guide thanks!
@zechariahcaraballo8765 Жыл бұрын
Why doesnkents tatsu not gonthrough fireballs like ryu's, he is supposed to be more rushdown and I feel this would help, but then again ken is a monster upclose so I dont mind lol
@yikes8317 Жыл бұрын
answered your own question
@captainphoton1693 Жыл бұрын
Didn't you forgot about half of deejays options? What about his jus cool dash ?
@zeywop Жыл бұрын
so should i just always be doing the light version of the hit grab when trying to get thru fireball? as manon. specifically. been really struggling against JP. i’d probably be struggling against guile but i haven’t seen one lol
@cerdi_99 Жыл бұрын
depends on the range and how soon u can react to it. The heavier the version the longer the proyectile invul lasts, but sadly so does the startup (i recommend to use the kick if you dont think it's going to hit as it only leaves u -5 instead of -16 at best)
@BlackVulpes Жыл бұрын
damn son, really earning my subscribe there. Nice info sharing!
@TheWorldconsumer Жыл бұрын
lets be honest: the best looking anti-fireball tool is the clap of honda XD. Fireball swatted away like an annoying fly :)
@platanutra8430 Жыл бұрын
me clicking for lily info and being bamboozled
@mmaldonadoofficial Жыл бұрын
you should make a video for all Guile matchups too
@GoldScale57 Жыл бұрын
Was Luke's lv 3 going through fireballs removed? Its mentioned in the demo and I did it myself. Its pretty wacky imo
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
It's still there but I count SA3s going through fireballs as a universal option as they're all invincible on startup and most active frames
@Shadar22 Жыл бұрын
Hey, what's goin on man? You ready to play?
@yano4473 Жыл бұрын
I'm also fighting to keep the KOF player inside
@MysticColorsAttack Жыл бұрын
I haven't tested this so I could be wrong, but you say that a character needs a 3 hit fireball or super to beat Luke's ex sandblast. but in sf6, super projectits have priority over ex projectiles which have priority over normal projectiles. Luke can totally brute force the fireball game, but ex sandblast loses to another fireball super
@themangomanjuice Жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@netherlim Жыл бұрын
No Honda EX Headbutt will beat two hits of fireball.
@nonuvurbeeznus795 Жыл бұрын
now if only i knew what throwing a bad fireball was
@thruwaycircus2532 Жыл бұрын
"Bad" fireballs are spacing dependant. A sort of rule of thumb is if you're within 2-3 character lengths of the opponent, and you don't have a read on their timing, it's a bad fireball.
@GastonLabaff Жыл бұрын
Really awesome content, thanks a lot!! Modern looks promising, I like the fact that they are actually patching it day 1, it shows they really seem to care about it! With everything you have studied, which chara do you think is currently the most reliable when played as modern compared to their classic version?
@watchulookinat271 Жыл бұрын
Damn Zangief punishes zoner severely if they were to mess up their combo
@Af0 Жыл бұрын
Were Jamie's kicks improved since the beta? They sucked as anti-fireball tehc in the beta.
@EXFrost Жыл бұрын
Nope they in fact got nerfed :( They are only fireball invincible from frame 3 rather than 1 iirc
@StopResetPlease Жыл бұрын
very nice video ty
@robinasterisk Жыл бұрын
what time does lily appear
@moseslalmuanpuia8988 Жыл бұрын
Let's be real. The best anti fireball is luke's hadouken
@faragaroruga3229 Жыл бұрын
Ken's run special get some projectile invuln
@MTdaBlacking10 ай бұрын
"Because there is no God..." I'm sensing an anti-Chun Li bias here. 😂
@Jagurda1 Жыл бұрын
Guile EX Flash also great.
@jaynyc154 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LupusAdNoctem Жыл бұрын
Great video. Text is like 20% too fast imo
@LuckyImpling Жыл бұрын
Something you didn’t mention for JP: if you EX any of his shadow clones (including the grab!) they’ll blow straight through any non-EX fireballs and keep going, probably going on to hit or grab them depending on which one you threw
@DenOfSin Жыл бұрын
I figured that and didnt mention it since that generic interaction is talked about in my fireball video
@KhunShawn Жыл бұрын
What’s a guy gotta do to get some commentary around here?
@insiderperson18279 Жыл бұрын
Slow down your slides dude I can't read that fast
@calmguru1274 Жыл бұрын
Neat, algorithim comment
@ksfallenangel5770 Жыл бұрын
Nobody dealt with fireballs better than F.A.N.G. Gimmie back my main Capcom!
@kennyulysse2163 Жыл бұрын
🦾💪
@BionikleFG Жыл бұрын
God I hate Honda
@MyCssJourney1 Жыл бұрын
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@theedwardian Жыл бұрын
God of filth and squalor like all the countries that embrace such barbarism. No other belief has executed more of its own believers than that one.