Top Ten Oldest Crip Street Gangs in Los Angeles by Alex Alonso (Part 2)

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Date: Dec. 22, 2015
Location: Los Angeles
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[@streetgangs]

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[@Booty-warrior69]

make a top 10 blood gang list

[@ogjenkins6132]

+Branden Brown never

[@LilYBOD]

+OG Jenkins he did tho

[@calicoe3133]

Bro you skipped Grape St.Even thou I ain't from there.

[@likedayummm9303]

Calicoe 313 they started as a Mexican/blacc gang bro...

[@Jamez8888]

holy smokes LA is huge af, this shit makes New York city look like a backyard.

[@lofaygang5822]

Mid West and its more violent

[@pep2st8p64]

New York is dense,LA is spread out

[@anaheimauthentic5099]

Yup LA is big land wise but new york is twice as populated yall cramped up

[@BSIII]

What the media doesn't talk about: The Mexican and Black gangs that coexist and 'get along'. The media only wants to talk about the animosity between a few hispanic gangs (like Asusa13) that targeted blacks, and vise versa. They don't want to talk about Varrio Grape and Grape Street Watts Crips, and many others who coexist.

[@michaelt4338]

VSLC and Venice 13 got along more than they war with each other. They even fought together some times

[@BSIII]

Much respect, Alonso. Grew up with your website (long before youtube). You make a big difference in awareness on these ignored subject of gangs, hoods, varrios, ect. Appreciate ya

[@AlexAlonso101]

+B. O'Smiley thanks much for your support.

[@brianc1481]

This was the best series of vids you did imo.. There's been some great ones but these where excellent.

[@AdonisAmarante]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Brazil!

[@nikeGordan]

You got HEART to go in all them hoods Family Peace and Success!

[@MannyTwice]

Contrary to popular belief these are all family oriented neighborhoods.

[@_JT107]

He a old head ain’t no body gonna bother him

[@ariestrucker7832]

Day time. Most gangs are more active at night

[@yungsammysosa6201]

@@ariestrucker7832 for 1 gangs are active day or night...and for 2 this isnt the 90's anymore..things arent how you think they are..

[@sierracaldwell7533]

Props to all East Coast Crips, 1st 59st 62st 66st 68st 69st 76pl 89st 97st Q102st 118blc 190blc, Raymond Washington and Bunchy Carter from the L.A Panther R.i.p

[@sammyver9]

Another great video Alonso, Big compliments on the delivery and presentation of the history of the gangs. Also great to see that you talk about the gangs in a respectful way without glorifying the gangster lifestyle.

[@AlexAlonso101]

+sammyver9 i appreciate your comments

[@sammyver9]

+Alex A. Alonso You're wlcome, keep em' coming

[@roslynh2911]

Thank you for the knowledge.

[@horacecarter2081]

great video series man keep em coming

[@awol7607]

Awesome video! Keep them coming 💯

[@Enhancedhustlers]

BODEKA GOOD SHIT bro, been waiting on part 2 for a minute lol

[@salvador62633]

Another great video keep them coming

[@ryanmarable2195]

Outstanding work.

[@luisgranados9992]

I really enjoy all your videos..very accurate and informative brother.... I lived in most of the hoods you mentioned...

[@ClarkKent-tg6ls]

Avalon Crip set is Legendary.

[@gordonlattimore9440]

Good Video. I like your channel. Lots of educational history of L.A streets gang.

[@Filiku]

You're the hood archaeologist. Good informative stuff. It's important to remember these things because they happened and are in some cases still happening. Thanks for sharing

[@bearrock86]

great vid bro

[@MNGxGhost]

Another One. Another One. Great job as always, thank you!

[@bluechucks8666]

They don't want us to succeed

[@MNGxGhost]

+Blue Chucks I appriciate that

[@JerseyMac11]

I always always wondered about that Harlem thing. Very knowledgeable stuff. Good shit Streetgangs

[@83yomomma]

Me too.

[@fuckyalife52212]

Harlem was very influential nationwide. We have a street here in Chicago Harlem street but it had nothing to do with Harlem Mafia Vice Lords who later changed their names to Ebony Vice Lords but they named themselves after what was considered the black Mecca

[@Bessemer863]

me to wow

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

+LivingDangerouslyDyingInfamously wow

[@TheBroLounge]

How'd they get the name for the East Coast Crips?

[@AntiMasonic93]

I grew up in LA and did not know all this info. Thanks bro.

[@chillwayne5003]

Great info

[@83yomomma]

I will most definitely check out that documentary. Thank you for these amazing post.

[@streetgangs]

+George Perez yes,

[@nicholassanchez-potter2721]

+streetgangs hey are you going to interview or do videos on the harlem 30 crips

[@TungMobTV13o2]

+streetgangs thanks for explaining why Harlem Crips use Harlem in their name... #NYtoLA

[@patrickellis1981]

I'm Gonna tag you on poppaharlems ig. Some real history in his page man. He hasn't been active for about a year now. Wonder if he's back inside. Who knows though. I believe he is a original... Thank you for all your vids. Much luv from San Antonio!!!!!!

[@Beatbyawhiteboy]

+nicholas sanchez-potter I have asked for that too. We've seem a lot of clips from their main rival, the FruitTown Brims, but haven't seen a single interview from the Harlem 30s.

[@jcm_studios_]

Awesome video Alex!

[@AlexAlonso101]

+Juan Martinez appreciate your support.

[@jcm_studios_]

Your welcome Alex! Great job.

[@KingJamesKingChaos]

Splendid work AGAIN Lonzo. If you ever need help with anything, let me know. I moved here to long beach and wouldn't mind helping you out with these vids

[@AlexAlonso101]

+King B. James thanks for your support.

[@tcherkezian86]

Could you put a link for each beats between the presentation of each neighbourhood ? Thanks and great vid btw.

[@Mrrichardson]

Good video Alonzo!! Very informational. Not too many people new that about OSC. These videos are not to invoke gang violence. These videos are to educate and enlighten you on gang culture and history. My entire family including myself grew up in the heart of the swamps. Visalia Ave. My cousin did 16 years straight for the neighborhood! Just got out 1.5 years ago and is doing great!!!!!! Great video!!

[@AlexAlonso101]

+Rashad Richardson thanks, hope your cousin is doing well, I bet he has a story to tell.

[@f.mazz.459]

I still don't get how Original Swamp Crips are the oldest CRIP gang in Los Angeles, when the Crips started in L.A's east side and Crippin' didn't even reach Compton yet? Does he mean "the oldest gangs that became Crips...???"

[@vaughnreedjr6592]

He mean original swamp was around before the crips and Blood. Swamp boys was and independent gang before the crips and the blood.

[@Mister_Byron562]

Good video Alex. Whats the song that started playing at the beginning of the WS Swamp section?

[@dayvonnedawkins580]

I swear to god man 18st is fucking everywhere in L.A.

[@MawuliWare]

18th is huge!

[@aretezjuadaloi575]

+Mawuli Ware Yeah, they're hung

[@jayk.2608]

+AntdezTV Is that right? Did they fall in line with Nortenos or what happened to them? Growing amount of Surenos in Oakland? Thx

[@jayk.2608]

AntdezTV OK yea that is how it goes, who is making noise in Oakland right now?

[@IamLEGENDkb24]

+Jay K. - The Asians...

[@louwaars]

Are there more videos with the birds eye view of the boundaries of the gangs?

[@bobbebouche9121]

Bravo!!!! Nice work Alex. Hope the Pirus up first?

[@AlexAlonso101]

+bobbe norwood thanks for checking me out

[@lastdeezylastdon]

+Alex A. Alonso Is Paybacc not in this list at all?

[@scrazzymoto1]

These are so interesting. Are you working on a Blood/Piru one?

[@Kusurigamaj]

I'm late, but I love these videos

[@staubach1979rt]

If I ever work again and you decide to write a book, I'll buy it immediately. Your research is remarkable.

[@adamkoestline4918]

Why did you leave out 107 Hoover on the map?

[@gettygreen68]

The funniest thing about racist on the Internet is they actually take time to watch their so called enemies videos. that's word is called admiration.

[@imagesfromLA]

It might have something to do with that old saying that goes, "keep your friends close to you, but keep your enemies even closer." Just saying.

[@Bobbybalboa735]

@@imagesfromLA THEY TRYING COPY OUR STRENGTH LIKE THEY COPY EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THAT CANT BE DUPLICATED THEY WILL NEVER BE BUILD LIKE US CAUSE THEY NEVER HAD A PAST LIKE US.

[@dusa605]

They hate that they love us

[@user-kn5ll5ny5o]

@@Bobbybalboa735 Build like us? You seen gang documentary and gang shooting videos? The places you're likely talking about are destroyed with closed down businesses, betrayal no jobs. People killing each other like its nothing. Nobody wants to be there hell people who live in places like the poor areas of LA,Chicago,Compton, Queens, Brooklyn etc want to get the fuck out.

[@southpawrey3541]

@@Bobbybalboa735 copy and wanna be like y'all lmao your oldest gang was from 1970 xD who's really copying who

[@ProdbyGrimeyred]

also, this vid might be the most informative vid on the gang culture in L.A. that u have done. There is alot of Black History in this vid. Keep em coming.

[@AlexAlonso101]

+GENERAL RED (GRIMEYRED) thanks for that

[@ProdbyGrimeyred]

***** don't forget about the NYC thing we spoke of.

[@jfg1104]

+streetgangs . I thoroughly enjoy your videos! Very well researched and informative. Could you tell me the largest Afro-American gangs in LA. For example the Rollin 60s...etc....Please. Could you please give estimates too. I would imagine the East Coast Crips, Rollin 60s, and Eight-Trey Gangster Crips. I am also doing my dissertation on American Gangs. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you Alex!!

[@LetsGoUp008]

I love these videos I know you gotta be working on the oldest blood gangs now

[@LetsGoUp008]

+mroboiz cool story bro

[@MrSkywryter]

Stunningly well made - and fascinating.

[@brunomiles314]

We need the 10 oldest gangs in the city of Compton now Alonso

[@anthonydaily9662]

when can you make a blood one? they are really interesting

[@shaniquastewart5079]

Where my grandmother meet Sam Fine Young and had my mom wow history Rest in Paradise Never Forgotten Rosalie Turner ☝🏾😍😘☝🏾🏁

[@Inkie.Apparition]

Do one on wsgc in Gardena. Been around forever but no interviews.

[@ProdbyGrimeyred]

luv the vids and information. huge supporter. I got a few questions. 1.) if e/s Crip was the first Crip gang, how can Swamp be acknowledged as the first if it E/S Crip was the origins? But I did notice u said oldest active Crip Gang. 2.) Correct me if I'm wrong, and I may have to watch pt.1 again, but if E/S Crip transformed into Eastcoast Crip, why aren't they the oldest Crip Gang?

[@streetgangs]

+GENERAL RED (GRIMEYRED) We never said it was Swamp was the "first Crip gang." This is a list of the oldest but currently active Crip street gangs. Raymond Washington didn't create East Coast Crips until about 1977 (62 Street Crips). But Q102 and SHackBoys (69/76) became ECC later and they are top ten oldest.

[@ProdbyGrimeyred]

***** I kinda figured that.

[@soloholden2017]

You were wrong about James Miller he wasn't born in Harlem New York.He was born & raised right here in Los Angeles California off the east side he has nothing to do with New York whatsoever so your information on that part was wrong Alex and you should have CORRECTED that a long time ago

[@youngboysnation]

Big facts

[@403patriot3]

it's cool to see documentation of gang history without glorifying it's image and influence...

[@mrnoname_2193]

Facts

[@KountKasper]

This documentary is so well made. You explained everything so well. I look forward to more

[@SkywalkerM-qm8fu]

Are you going to do the oldest blood gangs?

[@isaiahwinbrone]

How many crip neighborhoods are in los angeles today

[@suckafreeq5640]

OHC #DirtGang Rollin 30z 👍🏿♿️👍🏿

[@richardsellsaz6865]

I'm surprised he hasn't interviewed any Harlems yet

[@dlofrombountyhunnawatts3362]

SuckaFree Q fucck barlems Bounty Huunnas all day

[@ninehood2250]

FuCC bkouNty hkuNteRs bkooty hole bkitches bkooty hunting bitches

[@falconsvick7767]

💙✌🏽💙 Cuhz Daii Rolla Rolls RoyCe certified HMC always thumxxxs up

[@djlituation215]

It ain’t nø m8r3 3x crip

[@bigkevinbell4416]

He forgot the Broadway sets,,112&52,,

[@alejozamora2649]

18s and 30s one love

[@lastdeezylastdon]

Streetgangs, where is, and why do you not have Gardena Paybacc ? They are literally the third set ever? Is that correct?

[@chadtep7571]

I noticed that 74 hoovers spread all over. I grew up in AZ and I that was the first LA gang blood or crip that I heard of. That was in the early 80's. I saw a documentary about Freeway Rick Ross and he was standing on Hoover st. I wonder were they the main ones going state to state with the dope.

[@ryanmartinez2884]

I woulda thought rolling 60s crips would be mentioned but nice vid 👏🏽

[@AlexAlonso101]

+Ryan Martinez Why so?

[@quintonmiller8266]

+Ryan Martinez They are the biggest.

[@rockdogginthehouse]

Ryan Martinez he never gang bang he don't no nothing

[@albino3360]

He mentioned Neighbor Hood Crips in part 1

[@jcm_r]

A breakdown of the Neighborhood Rollin' Crips would be nice

[@nicholassanchez-potter2721]

more on harlem crip

[@youngcmaccmandagunmanmcc8603]

Keep doing yall thang alex

[@ajavon00]

Reading ancient hieroglyphs

[@robertcarrillo1658]

Whats The Next Video You're Working On?

[@DemirGZ]

what happened the Acacia Blocc Crips ? R they still active ?

[@zeroclipz]

you should do a video on housing projects around the la county

[@juliemccannon585]

Thank you for more detailed insight. I'm a criminal justice student. Trying to perhaps understand origin, meaning.

[@ayeboy5288]

You missed a lot of Hoover gangs

[@Mookamaaka]

107 94 52 59

[@azcardsphxsuns4433]

Damn alonso with the fashion show rockin 3 different outfits!!!

[@manaiakora1924]

name of the songs?

[@khargrove15]

Can you do a updated video on the 74 Hoovers

[@dwizzlo102dl]

I like this

[@farwestfivehunnit6871]

Alex, how about doing something on the deuces and tray Crip sets on the Westside of Los Angeles (Mid Town, West L.A. and tha Far Westside). There's a lot of history that date back to the 1960s down here that many don't know about due to the many, many years of gentrification. You got SYC, PBG, GGC, MFGC, MGC, BYHC, GYC & VSLC (including the history of the Sho Lines in the Mar Vista Gardens). You've touched on Venice a little bit by attending a community meeting and a Hood Day, but we never see nothing in depth on the Westside neighborhoods. One of the first gang injunctions in L.A. was on the Westside and some of the first black and latino beefs in L.A. began on this Westside. Everything you've done is about Watts, Compton and South Central, and even Long Beach. Give us a little shine!

[@streetgangs]

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[@bangbangking9663]

FACTS GGC is still active everywhere Cuz u need to holla at members of the gang and know if the active or not feel me

[@slagwill5599]

West LA is different from the “Westside”. The west side is that which is west of Main Street in south LA. West LA is that which is west of La Brea - all the way to the beach. Called “deep west”

[@MannyTwice]

Man I used to walk to Jefferson Park everyday to play as a kid...between Denker Park and Jefferson Park everyday....it's crazy how it looks now

[@isaiahwinbrone]

How many crip gangs are in Los Angeles today

[@theenlightenedone622]

Ayyyeeee Alex FINALLY you came to my neighborhood 42!!!AGC,43st,PlayBoy,41st,ect all by here glad you stopped by this is my childhood and even though its not the best place to be it was still my childhood Glad you stopped by.

[@theenlightenedone622]

Next time hmu when you by here we can go to 41st park(Gilbert Lindsay) and smoke a couple.

[@pauljenkins4029]

Hell ya i come out to 4pacc 4 life oringal evil eastsiders

[@HeartReader57]

A correction to one of your comments about Bret Harte Jr. HS (as it was known back in the 1970's) ALL the EARLY CRIPS did not attend Bret Harte. ONLY the ones that were W/S Crips. Even though I lived on 52nd & Avalon, I caught the bus to Bret Harte all through the 7th and halfway to the 8th Grade since I previous lived on 95th and Main. Many Eastside's used to go to Bret Harte or Thomas Edison Jr. Half that were also early Crips.

[@chrisacosta4357]

When u coming to the carvers?

[@HeartReader57]

Interesting review. How are you going to leave the Avalon Gangster Crips formerly Avalon Crips (primarily Avalon 5-Tray composed of us that were on 52nd and 53rd streets between McKinley Ave all the way to San Pedro Blvd. Don't know if I agree with your choices since I was actively Cripping in those days, went to Bret Harte Jr (HS) and Cripped with Kitchen Crips, Castle Crips, and Hoovers from 74 (Short Dog), 92 and 94 especially with Lil Rock and Crazy Rock. Where do you get your info from? Jamel Only became a CRIP to get help from the Walnuts (Michael and Kenny Bourgeois, Joe an John Humphreys, Gary and Terry Miller, Donald and Kenny Smith, Williams Scrutchins, Kenneth Short, Tony Billingsley, Kenneth Tillman and some others whom I know well back in the day whom was giving him grief and hard times. West Side Crips were not even established until 1971 when Tookie and Raymond combined. Mack Thomas was the Leader of the Compton Crips and establisher. Hoovers are not even Crips anymore and stopped being so a long time ago having went from the original Hoover Groovers to Hoover Crips to Hoover Criminals to Hoover Hustlers and back to the original title of Hoover Groovers (and they been flag gig Orange colors for years now). Who do you get your info from. I have yet to hear you say that all Bloods stem from Piru's whom at one time used to be Crips for a short while. I went to Locke HS and knew early Athens Park Bloods, Denver Lanes, Brims, Van Brims, Outlaws, Pueblos, lived on 84th and Main where the Swans were formed and knew them. Bounty Hunters, Crenshaw Mafia Bloods when they were in the young Stages, Pirus from Lueders Park and a host of others. Why was South Park and AGC, Not AVALON Gardens (since the AGC consist of 40's, 5-tray and 116)?

[@pauljenkins4029]

He did the best he could people don't no to much bout SPGC I'm 43rd i no

[@tishawnpenn6873]

And where do u get your info from Pirus never claimed crip they was always Pirus Pirus Street Boys to West Side Pirus they last name never been crips player the Pirus was in Compton before crips OG Melly Mel from SBCC and many more will tell u that . AC Babalouie was a East side Crip then they shot his ass came to Compton met OOOG Puddin, LB,Tam, just to name a few Original Pirus then he turned Piru. Ain't no history of Pirus wearing blue rags saying cuz. Piru started the red and burgundy flag West Side Pirus. People tryna say West Side Brims started the red nope they use to wear blue rags Pirus never changed they colors always been red and later some Pirus rock burgundy OG Bartender started that

[@justinhubbert1953]

Why he never do a special on the Raymond Avenues? 120th, 102nd, or Pasadena. They the first crips with 3 territories?

[@jknumber5138]

On 3:35 He didn't notice the 823 on the wall...just 2's an 3's.

[@daytondaytona4624]

never heard of that swamp place, reminds me of the sleepy lagoon from 38th st lore.

[@TungMobTV13o2]

@streetgangs... Thanks for explaining the origin of Harlem Crips name.... #NYtoLA

[@gfredbeats]

Mann!! You just answer probably everybody’s question about the name “Harlem 30s”

[@derekkase7884]

9:55 name of tune?? thx

[@ccavila323]

Maaan I remember hearing people say harlem crip back in 04 when I used to go to manual arts. Brings back memories

[@jahadmitchell5532]

What about shotgun crip when were they established thought they were part of the first first 12 hoods. That's what tookie says in his autobiography

[@UceMacntosh]

@streetgangs the southside of alonndra isnt swamps , thats lantana blocc where u filmed those nice houses

[@nanayabieswechs7532]

Damn dawg you looked paranoid standing on 92nd & Hoover thankgod ur shirt had orange letters lmao..

[@reggiehoward4798]

Did you see how he looked around when he when he threw up Hoover LMAO

[@Ricardo.972]

Original Westside crips were the underground,block,raymonds,shotguns,Watergate,Hoover's,neighborhood 111,Harlems,

[@rastayou4329]

I was hoping you'd catch some footage of people cripping. Where these gangstas at?

[@ufa621]

how old is grape street Jordan downs?

[@richardsellsaz6865]

They started as members from the Latino Watts Varrio Grape WVG and started crippin in the mid-1980's as watts Baby Loc Crips WBLC GSWC 103

[@danhenry2162]

This guy knows his stuff

[@2wo-g894]

you should interview some born to jack crips

[@702SinSuper]

Didn't Rudy Ray Moore buy the dunbar at one point?

[@TheOpinionSports]

Will you do an oldest blood gangs in LA?

[@streetgangs]

+okcboi we will real soon.

[@derrickjerome8036]

The Original Neighborhoods are from the EastSide 62 89 97

[@bobbydrake4055]

lol did i see officer Alonzo wit gucci panels on the doors?

[@Karakatzoi]

that's sampson in.the beginning photo??

[@terrellblacc1880]

thank you alex.a alonso

[@83yomomma]

As a kid I played with my neighbors outside. most of them African American. I am certain alot of kids from the hood experience this. Holding on to these sentiments allowed me to be never be blinded by hate. I love my community and I wish the best for it. "We need Black and Brown unity. Keep that jail shit out the community"

[@terrydelahanty2100]

White boys too fr