Stress Testing TNT Tubeless Tires on the Begode Master V4: Will They Hold Up?

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@grb1969 2 ай бұрын

To center a tubeless tire on a rim designed for tubes: 1) wrap power-strap around diameter of tire and lightly tighten it. (Strap just helps keep the rim/tire interface tight… but not too tight. 2) reduce air pressure to between 3-5psi. 3) tap on tire with dead-blow mallet or hammer while observing offset from either side until centered. Optional). Adding a solution of Slime plus dish soap will help make adjustments a little easier. Soap won’t hurt anything. The trick where you go out and drop off curbs only works at lower pressure, which is why you were unsuccessful with the first attempt. (Good idea though.)

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

I will be working on this tonight

@ryangross5446 2 ай бұрын

Hey duf, another entertaining video. Ive heard a good trick to center a tire is to deflate the tire to like 5psi and ride the wheel slowly inside your garage. The low pressure allows the tire to self center as your weight evens out the eccentricity. Maybe this could help you as well. My tubeless tire has been holding well on my Blitz, after many high jumps and offroad trails. I too am extra paranoid about checking pressure but it hasnt really lost any since i got the wheel. Tubeless seems like the way to go honestly. #master

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

I will try that trick and see if I have any luck. Yea tubeless just makes sense with as fast as these things are now.

@ryangross5446 2 ай бұрын

@@Duf seems like the easiest way to me lol. May not work every time but it's so easy you may as well give it a go. I've also heard of people marking the tire with a sharpie around the rim area and using that as a visual guide for alignment. Good luck brother!

@philiparnold9861 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see the TNT worked out on the Master...definitely liking the feel of that tire on the L. #master

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

I need to get it centered correctly but things are looking good

@ArduinaMaini 2 ай бұрын

Yo Duf, will you do the Halloween decorations tour of your neighborhood on the EUC? Thank you man!

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

I have done it in the past, unlikely this year.

@ArduinaMaini 2 ай бұрын

@Duf OK I'll look if I can find it, thank you and happy HW! So many zombie riders tonight :D

@russellzauner 2 ай бұрын

If the wheel ring isn't designed for a tubeless tire, it will always be a question mark as far as reliability. The smart thing to do would be have a fab shop modify and center/balance a wheel ring that is designed for tubeless tires OR figure out an adapter ring/plate, get it drawn up, and have it built by an online fab shop like proto labs, Igus, et al. If the motor is removeable from the wheel ring, I'm not an EUC mechanic but it seems the ring should be removable from the motor. I guess I can put that right there with the travel case, boost, and wireless charging designs - adding wheel ring adapters to restomod older wheels with tubed tires so they can take tubeless properly (maybe for EUC a bead lock product might be smart as well, for the folks that really like to pound and/or deflate it). If there's a tubeless wheel ring that already fits that motor, so much the better - many EUC use similar motors so unless they decided to intentionally break compatibility maybe someone who has a lot of wheels and wheel parts can try swapping a wheel ring that looks close. Also it might not be a bad idea with tubeless tires to try something like tire balancing beads to fend off the wobbles or at least be more resistant to them; they're not heavy, even in full size motorcycle/car tires, maybe a couple hundred grams would be enough for the smaller tires.

@grb1969 2 ай бұрын

All reasonable suggestions but machine shops are crazy expensive. Tire lock liners come as small as 18” for motocross rims but EUC manufacturers would need to change the profile cross-section design to accommodate the same product as the MX industry standards. This will happen as the demand for tubeless tires increases as a percentage of wheels sold. Let’s hope its soon and that 14” tire liners become available too.

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

I will be happy to test this further but for the riding I do, I think it will be fine.

@russellzauner 2 ай бұрын

@@grb1969 they're not where I am, I guess. Again, I haven't torn apart ANY EUC so I have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm just visualizing the little bit I do know and putting it against the endless fixturing and machines I've had to mod the hard way in the last 30 years. I don't get discounts on shopwork either, or maybe my expectations are different. The simplest thing I guess would be to just weld a fill plate inside the wheel ring of choice, then using a template of the motor outline laser cut it to fit exactly around the motor and bolt to its holes - with the plate the exact shape of the motor and the retention matching the motor perfectly it eliminates any issues of torque slippage in the parts for the prototype - if it works, that provides the pattern for a reasonable wheel ring that has the ability to shed mud and water instead of collect it like a solid plate. If that method works, then quite literally any tubed wheel can be upgraded to tubeless without questionable reliability or spending an inordinate amount of time messing around with an arts and crafts project. I'm not telling anyone what to do and everyone can choose their own adventure in life. I do like solving problems, especially ones I already have or might have in the future (MTen3, V10F, S22 1st gen, V12 1st gen). I enjoy ideas and discourse; it's not like I'm going to stop watching the videos 🙂

@lililililililili8667 2 ай бұрын

I wanna try out the tubeless offroad one

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

I know that one works well on the L

@christopherthomas8522 2 ай бұрын

#master the art of zen DD ☕️🎉

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

Yes sir, thank you!

@EUCme 2 ай бұрын

Hi Duf, good video. Where did you purchase the TNT tire? I've heard positive reviews and hope this company comes out with one for 18" and 22" needs.

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

From Ewheels, they can hook you up

@limitless8086 2 ай бұрын

#Master. I'm curious, how did you donthe conversion? I'm quite interested. I am a brand new rider, and haven't quite gotten the hang of things, but with the glorious fail that I just had, I am thinking that tubeless may be the way to go. Little about the fail, I had gotten to riding and moving quite well, and decided to go on a forward only brief ride, and while riding, I was absolutely ejected off of my master v4. Post crash analysis revealed that the tire bead had come off, the tube was bulged out preventing spin and also deflation. After some maneuvering and what not got it deflated, re beaded and upon re inflation, I believe the leak is at or very near the valve stem. This was day 2. Tire pressure was at 30. Any ideas?

@limitless8086 2 ай бұрын

Forgot to add, the tire says tubeless or something to that extent, which is why I asked if the conversion was easy and what was needed.

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

All it involved was installing a tubeless valve and the TNT street tire from Ewheels, welcome to the hobby!

@Duf 2 ай бұрын

You can have a tubeless tire installed but still utilize a tube in it.