Student Pilot Accidentally Spins while on a solo flight.

[@billm777]

Soon after I soloed, I was practicing stalls. I pointed my Cessna 172 straight up while leaving it on full power. What happened next was that I entered a full power inverted stall. Only days before, I had read an article in an aviation magazine about what to do. I pulled the power, pushed opposite rudder and then pulled the yoke back to get un-inverted. My mistake was pointing the plane straight up with FULL power. I never made the same mistake again but realized that I was lucky to have read that article. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here today.

[@daffidavit]

Congrats on your first hammerhead stall.

[@Rama41]

One of the first things to impress upon a student pilot is that a yoke is not a steering wheel.

[@BenjaminMcMan-m3i]

I’m a Canadian Flight Instructor. In Canada it is mandated that we do at least 1 flight of spins before we even send a Private student for their first solo. It makes me nervous that U.S. student, Private and even Commercial pilots have to rely on reading a book or magazine (if they happen to come across it) to learn how to get out of a spin. I hope more CFI’s take the initiative and teach spins to their students so they become safer and better pilots. Love the videos and your passion Ibrahim, keep it up!

[@1st.Gen.Pilot.]

Thanks man I really appreciate it. I agree the U.S. needs to mandate spins in private and commercial training.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

I can not imagine for a second becoming a licensed pilot without ever having spun an aircraft. It's ludicrous.

[@HoundDogMech]

The reason that the US quit Mandatory Spin Training i Pilots/Instructoes were Killing themselfes & Bending Aluminum.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

@@HoundDogMech If you're bending a plane in a spin then it's not a plane which should be used for training. A good safe plane spins in a respectable manner.

[@daffidavit]

In the U.S. spins only need to be documented for C.F.I.s. But back in the 70s and 80s, I would train my private and commercial students how to recover from partial spins anyway. I wouldn't teach them full spins, but when doing power on climbing turn stalls, many students would inadvertently enter incipient spins. I was concerned when they were in the practice area during the solo, they knew how to recover just in case. We would practice climbing right-turning power on stalls and let it snap over the top due to insufficient right rudder. If my students couldn't recover from an incipient spin, I wouldn't let them solo. I would make sure they could recover from a 1/4 turn spin. I slept better that way.

[@mizzyroro]

The most important lesson in spin recovery is how not to get into one. How much altitude did he lose? Imagine if this happened to him on the base to final turn. Not much time to recover.

[@TedJourneys]

When I did flight school in the 90s, stall training was required and for spins, what was required was to recognize incipient spins and get out of them before they fully developed. However with my instructor I did do a deliberate uncoordinated power on stall in a training area and develop a 3 rotation spin. Notwithstanding the scary part about staring nearly straight down at the ground, I was impressed particularly when I did “step on the ball” how quickly I was able to stop the spin in that 152.

[@akrogirl32]

My CFI also included some spin training, which ended up getting me into aerobatics. I wish all students would get some spin training, but I know that is not the case. One of my CFI’s students switched to a large flight academy because it was much closer to his home, and he was horrified by the fact that the CFIs there freaked out at anything above a 20 degree bank angle. Spins were a total no go.

[@wbay3848]

My school requires spin training before solo. My instructor even asked for a waiver to skip it, and the head instructor said “absolutely not”.

[@ahetzel9054]

Most schools don't for a reason though.

[@carlnally359]

I don't think a "student" pilot should be doing spins without an instructor present, for obvious reasons..

[@laykennungester5496]

he wasn’t trying to… but I do agree that if he doesn’t know how to recover from a stall coordinated he shouldn’t be solo yet.

[@leifvejby8023]

He didn't on purpose, but shit can happen, so it is nice to know how to undo it. I happened into a spin by accident too, when flying a glider in severe turbulence on a solo flight. No problem, we spent a lot of time practicing stals and spins.

[@Ifly1976]

He shouldn’t have been solo to begin with. The technique used to practice his power on stalls was horrible.

[@jackfrost3573]

I learned to fly in the 70's. Stall/spin training was part of my flight lessons. I remember intentionally spinning a Cessna 152 Aerobat on an early solo flight.

[@daffidavit]

I taught in the 70s and 80s. It was certainly not part of any training syllabus. But many instructors were concerned about the stall/spin accidents at the time and we weren't afraid to teach spin recovery while doing full power on climbing turn stalls. Most students would not use enough right rudder in a climbing right turn, and when it stalled, it would begin to snap over the top due to P factor and torque. I once had a student do this, and when it stalled it did a snap roll over to the left and began to spin. He let go of the wheel and grabbed my left leg with both hands as tight as he could. After I recovered, we joked about it. We went back to practicing power on stalls until he learned how to properly recover and avoid a spin.

[@curtcoltharp3719]

Things may have changed but when I got my Pvt back early 80’s, spins weren’t taught and check rides didn’t require them. I had several 100 hours and my own plane and was taking instrument instruction in it and finally got an instructor to demonstrate spins.

[@MisterIvyMike]

What maybe is important to explain, in a spin, no matter if you enter it or in a full spin, the outer wing moves faster (more lift) than the inner wing (less lift). With the ruder in opposite direction you break these unbalanced situation. Yeah, the yoke is not your friend even if you think so, because the yoke induce even more drag on the slower stalled wing.

[@obp6891]

I was introduced to spins on my fourth hour dual for my PPL , was one of the flight test required maneuvers and done it many times in different aircraft I think every pilot should be proficient in avoiding and recovering

[@MarkPoullos-v4f]

I think it is a serious mistake to not teach spin training.

[@daffidavit]

Teaching students to keep the airplane in a prolonged power-off stall while trying to prevent the plane from spinning with rudders only while the wheel is full-back is a very good experience for students. BTW, I'm happy nobody is using the stupid term "learner" in these comments.

[@MarkPoullos-v4f]

@ My Instructor was a Marine aviator . He did this with me ; and I am grateful. He also encouraged me to get aerobatic wavers to the ground from the FAA Which I did for an air show when I was 19.

[@turninmonyin2noise978]

RUDDER-RUDDER-RUDDER! as the plane stalls, the Rudder is the control surface that will level the roll and prevent the spin. To many pilots on base to final dig holes in tera-ferma, trying to stop the stall roll with alerions. Sadly, they make that mistake only once with no do-overs.

[@mortekaieve4729]

It’s not even that ailerons aren’t doing much for you, they are actively working against you by making the lift differential between wings greater which is part of why the spin happens to begin with. You remove power not only to slow descent but also to remove turning tendency. Often with these super stable training planes like the 172 you’ll correct an incipient spin with a single correction from PARE, or they’ll fly themselves out of a spin if you let go of controls (obviously correct and don’t let go, don’t test this out on your own). These trainers don’t like to spin and don’t want to spin, you have to make them spin like the student here did.

[@mdu2112]

With a trimmed Cessna, one could let go of everything and it would come out. 😅

[@erickborling1302]

The panel fixation by this pilot needs to be fixed. Need that head looking, looking, looking, including looking out the side during the maneuver. Lay back and relax. Rudder is the magic bullet for spin recovery in CE-1xx training aircraft.

[@jimmydulin928]

Good analysis of the cause of spin and the uselessness of aileron at slow airspeed and stall. Practicing chandelles in the early 60s in the C-150, I inadvertantly entered a spin. It convinced me that the chandelle was neither a safe nor efficient altitude gaining maneuver, especially in the mountains. Yes, spins were taught to both private and commercial students in those days.

[@1st.Gen.Pilot.]

I’ve heard that in Canada they have you perform a spin and during Commercial checkride, I think it’s great to at least require some training on spins during flight training.

[@erickborling1302]

@@1st.Gen.Pilot. As a CFI and "the spin guy" at my school I say you want as much spin experience as you can get. Such flights consume relatively little fuel, and your confidence and skill benefit immensely. Even in the knowledge areas. Like... it's hard to spin the CE-1x2 unless your weight and balance is just right, then it spins like a dream for about 20 minutes, after which the fuel load has changed your CG. Load/fuel the plane so the C.G is just about centered.

[@erickborling1302]

All pilots need to maintain a visual traffic scan. Don't just jump into a maneuver without clearing turns, situational awareness, and in the case of stalls, a pre-landing checklist. Take your time and start all maneuvers at Va. Make the most of your solo flight training time.

[@treydadzie5615]

My biggest fear with power on stalls

[@frdml01]

I don't remember ever being allowed to practice stalls solo during my training, but I admit, that was quite a while ago.

[@mjfencer]

Me either. All solo flights were touch and goes and crosscountry flights, and airwork was always dual and with the DPE at test time.

[@daffidavit]

Wow, have times changed. Back in the last century, we insisted that students practice power on and off stalls while solo in the practice area. But they were first taught how to prevent a spin. Maybe with newer aircraft today, that's not wise. But with Cessnas and Cherokees, there's no problem teaching students how to recover from spin entry.

[@mjfencer]

@@daffidavit I was trained in a 152 back in the last century. Looked over my logbooks and no sign offs for solo stall practice. Did find some steep turns and turns around points and MCA, which I did not recall, but no endorsements for solo stalls. Probably driven by various flight school policies.

[@MarkPoullos-v4f]

This happens more than you think. My first spin was doing exactly this in a practice area. Except for I entered the power on stall with much higher air speed than necessary. This caused a severe nose, high attitude. When the stall broke into the spin I was inverted. Obviously I lived to tell about it.

[@rapinncapin123]

Great channel!

[@flymyaviation5646]

I could be wrong but his sight picture before he started he needed right rudder, when I started years ago I felt that pressure in my right cheek & called out rudder instructor where did you learn that OIC USMC right rudder is your friend

[@Aviatorpeck1957]

Thank you sir!!! Very Well explained...

[@1st.Gen.Pilot.]

You’re welcome, glad it was helpful!

[@davecat1458]

Power on Stalls! They were not my favorite when I was training. I did exactly the same, although I didn't enter a spin. Uncoordinated, my left wing on a PA28-140 dropped so quickly that it left an indelible impression on me. I jammed right rudder. To be honest, it took me awhile to get back in the saddle. Spin training should become mandatory for PPL...IMHO.

[@okokc11]

Good video . Please 🙏 make some more . I am learning a lot from you

[@1st.Gen.Pilot.]

Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad you’re finding the videos helpful.

[@MarkShinnick]

Intentional spin stalling below 5k helps Natural Selection.

[@MarkPoullos-v4f]

5 K is only a problem if your ground level is 4k and you are in a plane not certified for spins.

[@MarkShinnick]

@MarkPoullos-v4f Meanwhile, no Mooney guy ever allows it to get much lower than 90kts at anything not near ground level.

[@jmherrera00]

Very clear. Thanks

[@1st.Gen.Pilot.]

You got it! Glad it was helpful. ✈️

[@Gary-pogi]

As you said you're going for your instructor certification remove "instructor screaming at you" from your mind and vocabulary.

[@Semperf11]

So student pilots can practice flight maneuvers by themselves😅 seems kinda sketchy

[@flexairz]

They are allowed to do that on solo flights AFTER they have demonstrated proficiency during training WITH a CFI.

[@andrewlessner1472]

When you said keep the blue side up as your outro you sounded like you were taking it from 74Gear. Good video though

[@lgonzalez1154]

Opposite rudder stick foward....I'm not a pilot but I've watched way too many air disasters

[@Qtip855]

I subscribed 👍😊

[@JoshiJosho-mf8oi]

Just don't try that on takeoff! 😵🥴

[@boeingbwoy]

high wing airplane risk

[@flexairz]

B.S. Low wing aircraft do this too.

[@NW-yy3pz]

Looks like an intentional spin to me and not really accidental

[@ExploringMinds0]

😮

[@AirJockey100]

Obviously this student wasn’t schooled on aerodynamics and no one should be going up solo without being schooled on aerodynamics.

[@alfredbelcher1369]

You are correct on a lot of things. However,, you're not a flight instructor yet, ,and it sounds to me like you're instructing..

[@flexairz]

When learning to become a CFI you also learn teaching students. That is what he is doing. You obviously know nothing about this process.

[@jamesavery6015]

Big deal