THE WINDOW DISASTER - What Happened and How We Could Have Avoided It

[@StudPack]

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[@dallasarnold8615]

Hey Stud Pack, if you have not yet checked the comments from the last video, installing the 3 inch conduit, you should look at the ones talking about a slip coupling below the meter box. I learned it the hard way on my house. After years the dirt settled and pulled the conduit away from the house. What a pain fixing that when it could have been avoided had I known better.

[@alexkemel4916]

If the other two didn't leak, why not compare the difference in the windows? Seems like it might have been a manufacturing mistake in that one window.

[@steveloux4709]

Not sure what part of the country you are located, but that detail is more of a cold weather issue and always driven by utility requirements. No frost heaves in the Houston area!@@dallasarnold8615

[@headcas620]

The problem with the nail fin is it pushes the window out making them look stuck on instead of adding depth by being inset in relation to the window trim. One reason new houses look worse than old ones.

[@steigerbower]

At least you guys fix it when you mess up , construction work is easy to get wrong , there's a lot that can go wrong, I've a seen a thousand things that are wrong onsite and covered up by....... whoever ! Well in lads.

[@jayperez6142]

As someone who does framing and finish carpentry for a living… nothing to be ashamed of. Mistakes are made, and we learn from said mistakes. It’s great to see a builder who ACTUALLY made a mistake and goes back to correct but in the process shows and explains why it’s wrong and how it’s fixed. Cheers to you guys! Nice build so far StudPack!!

[@jonperryman6477]

The problem isn't with people who make mistakes and learn from it. Inspectors exist because there are a lot of builders who make mistakes and don't learn from them.

[@jayperez6142]

@@jonperryman6477 Very true as well. Unfortunately in today’s construction era plenty of builders just want to fill their pockets and don’t care how projects are completed

[@mytubebobbie06h]

Very well said!

[@priceandpride]

Bella windows are the worst

[@disqusrubbish5467]

@@priceandpride These are Pella...

[@percival23]

There is nothing more valuable than a builder that is willing to show you thier mistakes. Well Done.

[@SkulxCrusherx]

And there is nothing better than making a spelling misssteak when pointing that out.

[@madebylife]

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[@ozziecrosby2092]

​@@SkulxCrusherx Huh?

[@thedevilshelp]

​@@ozziecrosby2092their not thier

[@mediocreman2]

Mistakes actually get more views on youtube.

[@Dampalicious]

This is why we love you guys, I’m sure there are a few viewers that complain about seeing “the same thing twice” but I assure you guys it’s the vocal minority, when I watch you guys I KNOW that it’s almost always done right with attention to detail, and when it’s not I ALSO know you will show us where you made your mistake and how to properly fix it. It takes guts to show an error you made especially when nobody would have even known there was one off camera, this channel will always be known to me and many other viewers for its character as well as it’s craftsmanship and that’s a title you guys should be proud of.

[@Onlooker71]

This is what I love about this channel. You’re human and you don’t edit your videos to look like you’re prefect. We all make mistakes and they’re the best learning experience. So this is a great video for us all to learn from.

[@markstipulkoski1389]

I love it. Paul can't say "vulnerable" so he goes with "susceptible" instead. I remember in elementary school when we all had to stand up and tell a little about ourselves to the class. My classmate had a heavy Southern drawl and pronounced "oil" as "erl". Even after many attempts, the teacher was unable to get him to pronounce oil correctly and he was flustered. So he continued his story, saying "My daddy works on a PETROLEUM rig". The whole class burst out laughing 😂!

[@campaltd1092]

Great job guys. One thing you said was on the house you might step back the framing so as to make the liquid flash easier. Remember the edge of the zip is unfinished. The concrete will retain moisture and will wick up into the edge of the Zip. If you do that seal the edge of the Zip first and keep it off the concrete.

[@toitlepower]

You guys don’t hide the mistakes (that everyone else also makes occasionally, but pretends not to) and show us how to fix it. This is why this house is a great build and Stud Pack an even better channel. Without encouraging more mistakes the candour and honesty is what makes your channel. Keep it up!!!

[@lanon3277]

What I really appreciate is that when you mess up, you take accountability for it, and show how to fix it. Because in real life, people make mistakes all the time, especially on a new project... and the studpack house is work in progress. A work in progress is always going to be a learning experience.

[@vannk73]

It's amazing how you all can stay so positive through all the little mistakes, delays, and do-overs. Despite the setbacks, this garage is looking great!

[@alexvega8026]

one of the worst things about modern social media and content creation is how content creators hide mistakes, failures, and other perceived negatives which are actually perfect teaching tools to learn from. this puts doubt into the minds of DIYers and newer people who want to tackle tasks on their own and in turn they give up a lot quicker since its demoralizing to watch a content creator do something "perfectly" the "first time" meanwhile less experienced people feel inept and are prone to quit a lot more quickly. massive props to you guys for not doing that shit. while the original install is considered a fail, you guys turned it into a teachable moment and passed on even more knowledge while showing people that even professionals are prone to making mistakes. again, props.

[@50sKid]

I think you should leave the sheathing hanging over the slab on the main house because water can’t possibly seap in through an overhanging seam. I know you’re going to liquiflash it but still, who knows what’ll happen to that in 20 years

[@billvandorn5332]

It was actually a blessing to discover the leak and mistake now instead of later!

[@823Steve]

Mistakes are part of the learning. If you're not making mistakes, you're not doing anything. And nothing beats experience. Great videos guys.

[@nathanpreston2263]

I appreciate the Integrity. Keep it that way Gentz! I never comment on anything but, dealing with Contractors, etc... it's nice to see a builder that owns up to it. It helps us little guys too. Cheers.

[@abbyshackleton9198]

If I’ve learned one thing through renovations, it’s that water can show up in places you never though possible. And it stumps you. And makes you nearly cry. Glad you were able to fix it!

[@evatatus]

😩 that’s sucks guys! I just can’t see how it leaked with how diligent y’all were with sealing. In true studpack fashion tho, y’all give the story how it is, good or bad, and totally humbled. Much appreciated!

[@SPCMCERV]

What a bummer, having to redo those GIANT windows. Props to you gents for taking the time and making the effort to fix! Always disheartening when you find a mistake, but feels great once it's fixed!

[@kyakukid1]

This is why I love this channel. This channel is so informative, honest, and humble about how it does things.

[@Darisiabgal7573]

I had the same pella windows installed on my house, the same drain ports after the factory certified installers left, i found on of the port doors on the window ledge. They are very flimsy. When you are spending 2000$ per window, you expect manf get details like that right.

[@92fsoakcreek]

Gotta say Stud Pack Gang; not only are you good builders; you're honest too. Some youtube builders would have just fixed it off camera and nevere admitted making a mistake. Home building is ALL about learning, making mistakes and then making it right. Cudos to the Whole Gang for standing up and helping us make things right. !!!

[@scottmalone9161]

It the consistent showing and fixing your mistakes that make this channel so valuable! Like in so many things it's the details that get you intro trouble. Great work, I hope one day I'll be able to put it to use building my own custom home in the future!

[@slypig24]

Thank you, I'm learning more from you guys than any Web site or any technical Bulletin that available. Thanks for a great factual channel.

[@davidwayneprins]

love how you own up to your mistakes and correct them. Makes me wonder how much Bob Vila left on the cutting room floor so it looks like he did it right the first time.

[@disqusrubbish5467]

Norm did it right...

[@cadayx]

Great content! Keep up the good work!

[@simonthebroken9691]

Thank you for sharing this. It really helps me.

[@irfisher]

Guys - I enjoy your video. Glad to see you added the liquid flashing. One additional thing I would recommend on the ZIP sheathing is folding tape around the bottom edge and avoiding direct contact with the slab. It’s a lesson I learnt as it was a detail i missed and the ZIP rotted out in less than 3 years in Houston. The moisture wicks into that exposed edge if it’s touching the slab or rain is bouncing off the slab onto the edge. I can email you pictures of what happened if moisture is left to soak into the ZIP via the exposed edge then left to basically steam behind the siding in hot texas weather. All the best Iain.

[@erict7499]

i did something similar on a garage a few years back i had access to again (swapping a light fixture out). i wrapped the bottom edge of the sheathing in zip (in my case plywood). and that was sealed (similar to lexel but i forget which product TBH) to the sill plate and footer. in my case my dimpled housewrap is also taped to the bottom of the sheathing. but this means no extra step sealing below the installed sheathing with liquid flash or whatever. F that noise. Portland, OR, rainy AF, sheathing right above a concrete patio. no rot. bugs and mice inside because of the garage door. so good luck sealing that thing. ;-)

[@greatvalleyone]

When sealing in conjunction with zip tape, always wipe zip tape backing with alcohol to remove release agent, it gives a better adhesion between the two.

[@FlakMagnet]

I really appreciate the energy of the dad deferring to his son because it's his son's house. At the same time, the son is being respectful of his dad while still doing the "my roof, my rule" thing. The mutual two-way respect between parent and child is fantastic. If the youtube personas are sincere reflections of their actual familial dynamics, (I think they are) then that's a model family people can hope for, folks.

[@timderks5960]

I've learned more from other people's mistakes than from my own successes, so please never stop showing mistakes.

[@margaretbear]

I think having the zip slightly proud of the foundation is good for water run off.

[@timhelmuth9740]

I really appreciate how you are willing to share your mistakes. Not many channels would do that.

[@phylliscage]

I’m beyond impressed with you guys and the way you always make things right.

[@andspenrob]

Recommend against recessing the Zip on the concrete pad - you want a drip edge at the corner to avoid wicking action on the edge of the OSB.

[@greemcreem]

one detail to consider on the main house is to zip tape the bottom of the zip sheets where they contact the slab, that way you have multiple layers of sealing protecting your siding. the zip tape handles protecting the sheathing, and the liquid flash protects the concrete to zip joint.

[@vonderdornburg]

The details about how some windows come with it without nail fins were totally new to me. Glad you caught it! It's looking good!

[@rosss7007]

33 year old dad that loves to DIY here. Can’t tell you how often I make little oversight type mistakes or have to run back to the hardware store 10 times for a “30 minute project” Seeing that you guys do the same will make me wayyyyy less hard on myself in the future. Love the series, I click every new video as soon as I see them. You guys are awesome!

[@jonperryman6477]

The one recommendation I have for you as a DIY'er is to stress anything important and fix any problems you find. Note that Studpack did a water hose test to ensure there was no leakage. I've seen a lot of DIY'ers not take basic steps to find out if they have a problem. The most memorable being 2 guys at a rebuild together project installing exterior metal handrail on the steps but not one screw hit. After they left, I walked over and effortlessly lifted it from the brackets. I have no problem with making mistakes but they never recognized they made a mistake.

[@quinn1883]

Thank you for being transparent. As a viewer, it means a lot that you admit when things don't go perfectly and share the lessons you've learned.

[@macrapidito1]

I saw the mistake on your window installation video Minute 26:43 that was the mistake, that was the reason the windows where “leaking” . All windows leak or eventually will leak, the problem here is that in your effort to air tight the house you also installed a water trap, you could do backerod and silicon on the sides and top but not at the bottom of the window, that’s where the water drains out. When you installed the backerod at the face of the house you installed a water trap. You could use the backerod and caulk all around the window but only on the inside. Out side just 3 sides, sides and top. How ever if you are doing new construction , windows with nail fins are the way to go. Love your videos, keep it up Btw, I am an stucco contractor 😬

[@chuckthetekkie]

I love the fact that when you make a mistake or something goes wrong you show us. That shows us that you will gladly admit when you make mistakes AND it teaches us so we don't make the same ones. LOVE IT. Can't wait for the next video.

[@jeremyzaloum3443]

One thing we like about this channel is the transparency you have when things need to be redone to perfection. It's real, humble and very human. Thank you!!!!

[@beckycrump8831]

If you set the wall back so the sheathing is flush then the liquid flash can't protect the bottom edge of the sheething.

[@unifairsum21]

The most valuable lesson learned are the mistakes you made along the way taking accountability and fixing them is how you grow glad to see you guys doing that

[@sygad1]

Really appreciate the fault finding and diagnosis, this is the hardest part of fixing something where the answer is difficult to come by.

[@ThunderDivine]

Man wish these episodes where 2 times longer. - It looks like tinted windows from the streetview. Amazing job. And rain here even goes upwards and in circles.

[@JohnstonPettigrew]

Pella has been out there an awful long period of time to be discussing improvements to their instructions at this point🤬.....just a thought. Nice work guys as always!

[@bhami]

I definitely fault Pella for not putting simple stickers on the windows saying that the installer needs to install the nail fins.

[@mitchk7655]

I am amazed that they claim they cant install the nail fins at the factory.

[@maddierosemusic]

@@bhami Yeah, wtf is that? I'd be more than pissed.

[@kingdommanlegacyministries7769]

Hey, my thoughts EXACTLY...

[@BerryMcCaulkiner859]

I noticed on the first window video that they were sitting in pretty far, and I thought maybe it was going to be brick. Your going to be thankful it leaked so now they are sticking out correctly for siding

[@JohnClay77]

There are many reason why I love watching the Stud Pack crew! One of the biggest reasons is your honesty and willingness to show us your mistakes. I’ve learned so much from watching you guys! Keep the great content coming!!!

[@outoftheboxmedic1608]

I love that you didn’t fake it with the window installation. Man it could have been easy to just move on and not even mention it! But you didn’t! THATS INTEGRITY! You’re true to yourself and others about mistakes. We all make em and then go to KZbin to learn how to fix them. This is a perfect example of that! That’s what makes me love this channel about! Seriously, I tell everyone about this channel! KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK!

[@T.E.P..]

absolutely incredible how fast you guys blasted into the universe ... It's been a huge delight and super educational being subbed all these years. well done gentleman!!!! Super happy for your success. I used to click LIKE on every comment on the vids ... now it takes days to do what took me 10 minutes. Cheeers guys

[@mrsduddlycross]

This is a really cool video! I work at one of those big home improvement stores and recently transferred to the millwork department. My coworker and I are both new. Today I did a reorder for a customer who wanted flush fins but got a block frame instead. A combination of inexperience on the part of the purchaser and my coworker the salesperson led to a miscommunication. Mistakes happen and we learn from them. Videos like this help me better understand what I am selling. Now I look forward to all the door installs!

[@jamesmchugo9422]

Another great show. Nice detective work, tracing back to the install error. When I replace my windows I’m counting on the lessons you guys learned, so I don’t make the same mistakes.

[@andrewsackville-west1609]

Inspiring to see the ownership and honesty! Nice job! Bonus, now you've been able to observe the effects of your lexel application when you pulled them out.

[@OBD01]

How frustrating for you guys 😢 I do like how you keep it real showing all the bad with the good. It is hard enough building from the ground up but then you add filming it all for us. Thank You for bringing us along!

[@boppins]

Thanks for showing your mistakes. It's good to show others that mistakes will happen, but more importantly, you can fix them. Just need some time and patience.

[@drewp4688]

I just love these videos. The relationship between father and son is gold.

[@joeforns]

Owning your mistakes than explaining the error in your ways and how you remedied it is one of the best things about these video's !

[@nexzus1000]

The single greatest part about this channel is, that your so open about mistakes! ❤ Dont changes that. makes you look great the way you takles unexpected problems

[@TheSaw410]

This is what learning is all about. Thank you.

[@karnniescrubz]

Just wanted to drop a comment and say thank you for not only showing up that you messed up but also owning the incorrect installation. That takes a lot of integrity.

[@russofamerica]

I love that this video documents and repairs an installation snafu. That's good transparency, and it's also good education, because we always make mistakes in life. Thanks for that!

[@nickkraft5932]

Thats what i love about this channel. Mistakes are bound to happen!! Own it, fix it, and overcome!!

[@rickyborden3287]

It's so nice when people put their mistakes out there. I know it's not fun, but I learned something here. I knew it was weird that there was no nail flanges when you put the windows in, but I haven't put in a lot of windows. It's nice to have this info since I am starting framing on my first house in the spring. Now I know. Good job guys!

[@a.a.4924]

I just found your channel guys and rely amazing videos, no many contractors showing their own mistakes and in fact they hide them. Subscribed

[@Solidst8dad2112]

I love seeing the mistakes as well as the successes! As a homeowner who will be remodeling, it is good to see where problems might happen so I can avoid the same issues you mentioned!

[@arcee33]

You guys are doing a GREAT JOB, we all learn something new everyday on our projects. Thank you for sharing your journey with us.

[@tomwinds9729]

Amazing. Thanks for taking time and capture the whole thing on video. Watching this and I feel like I am building the house with you. That detailed.

[@roczilla6834]

It’s better to do it now and not when the house is complete. Thank you for eating some humble pie and posting your unfortunate dilemma. You guys rock.

[@lyndawilliamson8543]

I love that you guys make good on your mistakes even if you don't REALLY need to. Your are perfectionists to the enth degree and I love it. I intend to follow this build to the very end and love every episode.

[@stuarthallgren9380]

I learn just as much or more from your recovery from mistakes or oversights. Mistakes are a pain and I just as soon learn from your mistakes rather thane mine

[@mesister3862]

We all do research for our projects, and sometimes we have to redo. Appreciate your honesty!!

[@donniematz]

Love that you shared the “mistake” with all of us- you could have just pretended it was perfect the first time and not told us!!

[@clintprice2123]

Your honesty shows the viewers that we are all human and can make an error, that’s how we learn. This video gains you even more credibility because you could have just not admitted or shown what happened. This is still a great structure and the house will be even better. I’m looking forward to the next video.

[@eastcoastmodz5195]

WOW that looks great ... I could really feel your 'pane' with the windows LOL. Another great video by the Stud Pack Crew! Can't wait to see what's up next! Cheers Paul, Jordan and Rad :)

[@chrismahne692]

Kudos to you guys for tackling this head on. There is no project where everything goes as planned, and recovering from mistakes is great learning.

[@pitsnipe5559]

A great way to learn is for the teacher to show you their mistakes and how they corrected them. Well done!

[@aaronkuhns6211]

Thank you for sharing your situation and solution. And I respect your courage to share this.🔨

[@KingOfChins]

Never has someone been so glad to have rain before dry-in

[@cosmicbrambleclawv2]

The windows might not have been watertight but one thing that always is, is you guys! ❤ Ready and willing to admit when mistakes/accidents are made, and even better: more than willing to show how to fix it when something happens

[@beckycrump8831]

I thought the liquid flash was spread with a brush. What's the difference?

[@foxmulder6674]

Great video nice re-do on the windows. Sure want to fix that now and not later when you have the siding on and everything done. Just shows what great craftsman the whole Studpack team is. Great job.

[@robertrussell5210]

Oh - and I have made safety mistakes too🤗 I don't recall from the installation video how you sprayed it down, but my sense is if you used a high pressure squirt of some sort it went in through the weep hole and filled the bottom tray of the sill

[@LasVegasVocalist]

Absolutely awesome video!!! I love the fact that you owned-up to a mistake and in doing so you inadvertently created an opportunity to show everyone what happened and what you did about it. RESPECT!!! Keep up the great work.

[@geniferteal4178]

I love all these helpful videos and explanations. my biggest concern is if you don't do it yourself, Who's gonna put this much care into someone else's project? I bet most contractors would do their best and close it up never knowing if it leak like this or or caring.

[@robert.stokes]

Simply put!! My favorite KZbin channel!! You guys are classy, honest, and total professionals - through and through!

[@kirbypmorris]

I have installed many many windows of many manufacturers and also worked exclusively installing for Pella for years. It is not uncommon to install windows without a nail fin ... like in an opening of a house covered in brick. They have a brick mold that snaps in to fill some of the gap but you still need to caulk of course. It still always made me nervous that they might leak over time. But in sunny California they seem to be fine. Always always put a nail fin on if you can. Pella also has adhesive flashing tape that is made for the left and right corner joints of the fin. . And yes ... always leave the bottom fin not sealed with caulk. Let that water get out if it does get in. And water test for at least 10-15 minutes. Sometimes it takes awhile before a leak starts to appear. When stucco or siding is on ... water test for 30 min.

[@franktowers3]

the water was coming out of the weep holes and sitting on the sill, once yall put the flanges in the window stands proud of the wall allowing the water to roll off

[@bchluvrxyz816]

Best contractor’s video out there. They own up to their mistakes, AND, actually fix them. Properly. Most contractors would just caulk the hell out of the window, believing that is a real fix. Not. These guys are how all builders should be. I would trust them to build anything for me.

[@MIGHTYX2010]

Live and learn! 👊 You guys are stronger for it 💪 Good job 👍 Thanks for showing us the repair.

[@Adesico87]

Hats off to you guys for taking the time tracing down the issue! Matt Risinger takes dyed water, and does the exact same water test you did- cover weep holes and fill the bottom sill. He’s proved that even high end windows can come from the factory defective. It’s a great test, but I honestly can say no one in the Kansas City market tests new windows before they’re installed. Wish it was a common practice.

[@williamdecamp7343]

Not sure what Pella windows you bought but my molded (twin 3-0 6-0) windows came with a nail fin installed because it’s on the data options sheet when I sat down and ordered the windows.

[@808jpm]

I'm trying not to imagine all the little mistakes most builders are making and not going back to fix. Good job going back to fix the windows.

[@juliahelland6488]

You guys are doing an awesome job! When I watched the first window installation video, I was thinking, where are your nail fins? 😂 I am glad you did the water test and figured it out! 💯❣️

[@Kralphrn]

So glad you show problems and solutions! Good job!!!

[@darrenberry3456]

Showing mistakes is the way we all learn , Hine slight is 20/20 thank you for being so open about your build that's one of the reasons I like watching your videos keep up the great work !!!

[@Zt3v3]

This makes me feel better about myself. Believe me, you're not alone in having to do things twice.

[@Interknetz]

Keep it up. I do wish the videos were maybe longer. I could watch an hour of this easily and multiple times a week. Depends how that'd fit into your editing style though, but a great series that I'm here to watch every step!

[@toniandersen6049]

Hi. I think the reason was that there had been condensation on the window surface, and since this was the last window you put in and furthest away from the stairs, all the moist and warm air in the garage was concentrated in this corner. and since glass does not absorb the water. I see the same thing in my own garage. Greetings Snekkerandersen (Norway)

[@sstreet9436]

Thumbs up for bravery; showing your mistakes, rework, and corrections. The garage is coming together, looking forward to siding and the color scheme chosen. Good luck with the change in seasons; good thing it's nearly completed on the outside.

[@TeacherTonya74]

Thank you for sharing your challenges as well as your celebrations! It's so nice to actually see someone not only sharing perfection online. Keep doing you!

[@hu5tle-]

I recommend just using Siga Fentrim tape over liquid flashing the sill on the main house. As you experienced, the liquid flash goes fast and it gets everywhere.