WHY This 2 INCHES Will COST US $800 Ep. 15

[@zevgoldman6769]

Your son is fortunate. My dad was an old school builder who learned the trade in the 1940s and expected me to be perfect first day on the job. After high school graduation I worked for him until I turned 18 and chose getting shot at in South Vietnam to spending another day on the job with him. It is wonderful of you to teach your son a lifelong career.

[@john.french]

Love that you mention Richard from Finish Carpentry at 10:05. Been watching him for 4 years or so... You both are so awesome, humble, knowledgeable and helpful. Perfect winning formula for KZbin! Keep up the great work Stud Pack!

[@chriscaldes9348]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that this is one of the best home improvement shows I’ve ever seen. I’ve learned so many little things from you guys, and I really appreciate your attention to detail Paul. Keep up the great work! And THANK YOU!

[@StudPack]

You’re very welcome Chris and thank you for watching and commenting 👍💪

[@LexLuthier1]

Cosign, Chris. I worked in the trades for more than forty years. These guys do quality work. I learn something from every video I watch.

[@ncooty]

Good lord, Paul is a wealth of useful info, and such an obviously nice guy.

[@philstuf]

You guys deliver SO much USEFUL info on these videos (in addition to your tricks of the trade). Main breaker height, caveats of not thinking about the next contractor (plumbing issues with lowered sinks),. Tips 'n' tricks, baby... Tips 'n' tricks. Dropping some excellent knowledge for the rest of us.

[@StudPack]

Awesome thx 👍💪

[@iamamish]

We went through a whole house remodel, and our contractor was a bum. Afterward, our kitchen sink was always leaking. I took it apart at least 10 times and tried to figure out why it wouldn't stop leaking. 14:06 is the reason. They replaced our standard sink with a farm sink, but never lowered the drain. I remember when the plumber arrived and gave us the bad news. As you said - out went the back of the cabinet, and out went our new drywall.

[@southerncomfort971]

Another fun and excellent video guys. Love how you treat the client's home as your own , thinking ahead of what they may want or need and what has to be considered in the event changes are needed. I really wish everyone would do what you do. Thanks for allowing us to watch and keep up the great work

[@StudPack]

You got it thx 👍

[@S_a_n22]

If I had a dollar for every new cabinet I cut apart due to waste arm height. I appreciate the details guys. You helped this customer tremendously.

[@StudPack]

Thx Shawn👍💪

[@captaink118]

Part of me likes the idea of the placement for that spice rack part of me wonders if it a good placement because you will have to reach over whatever's on the stove to get to it and will the very high humidity in that area cause problems with the spices.

[@andrewwendling3476]

You know what would be cool and unique? If you guys got a stamp or a stencil with the stud pac logo so you could mark some of the framing pieces that you install or even just for cut off pieces. Every bit of advertising helps!

[@milesharlan1]

Thank You Studpack for the great content on your channel!!! Love the interaction between you too!! Keep up the good work & see you on your next video!!

[@StudPack]

Thx Miles 👍💪

[@illestofdemall13]

@@StudPack Did that guy fall through the ceiling? The impact didn't sound like a straight free fall.

[@illestofdemall13]

@@StudPack My friend's range receptacle was installed in a way that the plug cord was bending at the floor, causing stress. I had to flip the receptacle 180 degrees so that the cord would be going away from the floor. Since the electrical box was an old bakelite box with no mud ring, I couldn't install it sideways like you did in the video. Also, the wire inside the box was short and barely left me enough room to flip the receptacle.

[@mickeymacon1281]

@@illestofdemall13 I though it was that bundle of cable he was rolling back up ???

[@illestofdemall13]

@@mickeymacon1281 I don't know. Seems like you could be right, but it was unclear in the video.

[@Aepek]

20:38 There’s nothing like starting a new job and going over to the breaker panel and actually seeing a “Legend” and one that ACTUALLY is filled out and correct. Makes things so much easier; unfortunately, can’t recall starting a new job where the panel was correctly labeled, and that’s if it was labeled at all 😁 (so many panels out there that aren’t labeled, geez; also, having a main water shutoff in side of house the actually works....instead of having to go to the street. It’s these little things that make our jobs a bit more easier, along w/ saving ppl money and time😉) ✌🏻

[@RehabLife]

When you showed the Buchanan tool I was screaming “He has a Buchanan tool!” … I am one of those 5 viewers!

[@StudPack]

😂 thx rehab 👍

[@mikezimmermann89]

Super impressed with your delivery guys! Not only were the cool about being in your video, but they were well-equipped with ramps and dollies to get your materials right where you needed them. In my experience, driveway delivery is all you get!

[@Aepek]

15:19 Agree 100% with that statement. Sure, it takes “some” time to make a “mock up”; but the time spent making the mock up....CAN SAVE you money and time down the road. Not only do mock-ups help the homeowner visualize and “see” what “final product” gonna look like; but for us builders, it can help solve some issues down the road; just like you said about that sink drain etc... Also from my experience, when you make a mock-up and show a homeowner what something gonna look like, they really like it and appreciate it (can’t recall ever after making a mock-up that someone said it was a waste of time and didn’t like it😉). Exciting to see the progress of this Reno, & soon will be seeing the finished work. Not sure about you, but time really does fly; cuz you’ve been attacking this project like crazy. Nice work✌🏻

[@StudPack]

Thx aepek 👍💪👊

[@ideaguyinks]

How come you guys don't have your own TV show? I could watch your videos for hours. Keep up the good work, it's a pleasure to see pros that care about doing things correctly.

[@joebagadoughnuts]

Great comment regarding drain height location following a sink change. Will sort this out on my bathroom remodel. Moving up to 34-1/2” cabinet height might just save me some additional drain plumbing rework. Many thanks for your thorough discussions

[@tonythigpen9415]

Should go ahead and install the duplex plate dryer, then use Leviton 88085 (or equal) cover that is 1 side blank, 1 side single 1.406" round hole. Then, future update does not require any mud work.

[@StudPack]

Thx Tony. I’ll do that👍

[@canadaftw0]

I've been really enjoying your videos, the production quality is excellent. You are able to make the content enjoyable but also informative. Typically I only research construction videos I'm only doing something specific but with your videos I am able to proactively learn about construction as a whole. As well I'm a Journeymen electrician and every time you've brought up anything electrical you've been bang on!

[@StudPack]

Cool thx 👍👍💪

[@Reese_Young]

As a plumber that issue with the kitchen sink drain happens a lot and we have to ruin people day thanks for letting people know about it

[@StudPack]

Cool thx Reese 👊💪

[@lucho3410]

I love your videos. All the little tips you guys give are gold. Im currently doing a bathroom, laundry, and kitchen and your videos have given me such great ideas. Keep up the excellent work 👍

[@TransplantHelper]

You are absolutely a Jack of all trades. Great videos

[@johndehoog5567]

Hey Paul. I am a retired residential carpenter. Appreciate your knowledge and workmanship. You haven't got much of an accent for being in Baton Rouge. We are paying $9.50 CDN for 2 X 4 X 8' spruce stud, plus 13% tax. Cheers from southern Ontario Canada

[@StudPack]

Thx John. Re: accent yeah I’ve heard that before 😀👍

[@josephrogers5337]

I remember visiting a friend who had a remodel done on the kitchen. He was always having a drain problem. I looked under his sink and saw the drain went uphill from the trap to the drain outlet on the wall. Sounded like an no permit and no inspection job. Plan a head and save always having a drain problem.

[@y00h0011]

4 11/16 box always!. I to, always turn the p-ring at a 90 and install recept the same allowing for the range pigtail to snake under the range. Good video guys!

[@StudPack]

Thx 👍💪

[@daaam2160]

Love to see interactions with other trades. Communication is so important in order to do it right the first time. Great vid

[@frankt5730]

Never seen nail plates used. Learn something new from everyone of your videos. Great content!

[@stephengirtz]

Brilliant foresight for the dryer power!

[@javiergalvan242]

With your knowledge Paul, and with Jordan's assistance, there is no doubt in my mind that it wouldn't pass inspection. Great video as usual. You both take care of one another and we'll talk on the next one!

[@craned]

I'd love to see some other non-renovation projects. Digging Fire pits, setting fence posts, that kind of thing.

[@Pmwgolf]

Look forward to all your videos, One quick suggestion for all trades, do not set tools or materials on appliances, do not risk the chance of stretches to the paint. Protect all appliances Thank You Keep the videos coming

[@treeguyable]

Sooo glad, I did the house remodel myself, without waiting on a carpenter, plumber, or , trim guy. Working with the electrician, no problem, had to have a licensed guy any way, for the major work done.

[@dannybrazil3986]

Always thinking ahead and the ability to except change, thats ...stud pack!

[@T.E.P.]

WOW guys this is getting something special ... super super good. very impressed ... great job Jordan on the production editing and also your Pops for being the talent

[@franciscovega7325]

It felt like the Southern version of This Old House .. IIIIIII Liked It ..

[@StudPack]

Thx Francisco 👍💪

[@austinhastings8793]

That range-niche has the potential to be a real grease trap. Better make sure it swings down or something to make things easy to clean.

[@TheSidneySmith]

Why not just use the 2 gang plate behind the dryer and a blank/single outlet cover? Future proof against the tear out so someone will know there's room there for the change. Plus, it's hidden, so it's not like it will stick out like a sore thumb.

[@StudPack]

Good idea 👍. That’ll work too 💪

[@Superduty_59]

Paul you could have been a teacher I learned a lot in 21 minutes!! In your field it pays to think 5-10 steps ahead.

[@StudPack]

Thank you sir 👍💪

[@L3x4Pr0ne]

Good tradesmen are some of my favorite people.

[@thetransformer6780]

Me and my dad also had the same problem with the farmhouse sink. Had to use an above the fridge cabinet cut out the top and frame around it so it held the sinks weight, and build a base for it

[@thetransformer6780]

They never give you enough filler for the cabinets lol

[@StudPack]

That’s for sure. Thx Shane 👍

[@carolmartell9051]

Oh I am so glad I found this channel 😊 I am now in the middle of July 😁 Your channel is so informative. I am from Wisconsin and what you have done in the videos are of great help. I hope you have a video on vinyl shake siding? You and your son are a great example of a beautiful relationship for father's and son's ❤️

[@StudPack]

Thx Carol. Don’t see any vinyl shakes here in Louisiana 😟

[@georgedavall9449]

Paul and Son outta this World!!! Makes me proud just watching their work and technical expertise and attention to detail! 😁😀👍👍👍👍👍😁✌🏻🇺🇸

[@StudPack]

Thanks George! Appreciate it 💪🏼

[@f.demascio1857]

Great job on being aware of the depth of the new sink. So many times I have warned people and GC's. They refuse to acknowledge their mistake at trim out. Deep traps kill disposals, people. Deep traps cause frequent clogs. On anther note, I'm surprised your plumbing code allows that sink drain vent to pass through the King stud at the window. Was that a 2x6 wall? We cant cut more than a 1-3/8 hole in a king stud and still have to put a stud shoe on it. Clean looking plumbing work tho.

[@StudPack]

Thx 👍 2x4 walls on that vent. I guess it’s grandfathered in. Would need a shoe otherwise 💪👊

[@mrzales4633]

Pleasure watching you work sir! Keep the videos coming please. All the best and stay safe.

[@StudPack]

Thank you !👍👊💪

[@ktwingstrom]

It’s funny you talk about your old videos in this one. I was watching some videos from a year back on your channel and the new ones are MUCH better! I still love all of them but I have to say the production quality is top notch today. It’s fun to go back and see what’s changed! Keep up the awesome videos! I wish you guys lived in Utah and I could hire you to help with my basement finish!

[@StudPack]

Awesome thx Kevin 👍💪

[@EVmike]

#6 here. Just had a house wired with some of those crimps nearly melt the hot wire that was trying to supply 20 amps to several space heaters.

[@jakesteel3641]

Lmao that "dispose-all" lol

[@LargerThanCats]

I am glad someone else said something, lol.

[@ryanh4693]

I know I had to search the comments to see if I was the only one 😂

[@austinhastings8793]

If you've got a hand-held planer, you can recess a lot of those nail plates really quick. It flattens the drywall, and actually helps keep the plates from falling off due to random impacts. (Or you could just pull them back down after inspection, which is apparently a great way to recycle...)

[@lrc87290]

I was going to mention that because that is what i did on my whole house renovation, planed a recess, but I thought no one else is that anal. I would never take them out. You never know where someone is going to drive a screw.

[@StudPack]

Cool. We do that sometimes to recess hangers

[@cineaste1969]

You guys just keep on pumping out the best content. Keep it up and you’ll soon be at one hundred thousand and beyond!

[@TheAxecutioner]

I just went thru the sink drain problem last month. The customer's new sink was under countertop with garbage disposal so the GD would've always had 2" of water in it. I had to lower all of the in wall plumbing 3". Fortunately the wall behind the sink was an open living room wall so I could cut a large hole in the drywall, lower the plumbing,and put the drywall back. It was a huge problem, but not as bad as butchering the cabinets and trying to replumb with my head stuck 2' into the base cabs under the granite countertop. Phew, I learned a lesson that day

[@StudPack]

Thx Brayden👍. You got lucky being able to go thru that wall 💪

[@stevebabiak6997]

There was a flip house listed for sale for many months with a brand new kitchen that wasn’t selling in a hot neighborhood where I sold a flip without even listing it. In that new kitchen, the dishwasher door did not clear the window sill that was in the door’s path - the dishwasher was useless like that. That’s why a good kitchen designer / builder / contractor will make sure all moving parts - mainly doors and drawers - will open fully. Just like that lower drawer near the window in the kitchen from this video.

[@StudPack]

Thx Steve 👍💪

[@djamelhamdia134]

That electrician was so chill!

[@50sKid]

This week, on this old house... Paul, you're getting to be a natural lol

[@StudPack]

Took me long enough 😂😂😂 thx

[@ambilaevus7607]

I did a niche smaller then this in my kitchen in 2010 and I love it, couldn't live without it. Wish id seen this video in 2010. I woulda done a few things behind the drywall different based on these videos.

[@ambilaevus7607]

Ok on your crown molding comment, now wish I'd seen you guys before I gutted my bathroom 15+ years ago.

[@poepflater]

I'd add a small fan in the TV recess, bad airflow behind TV's drastically shortens lifespan. Keep up the good work!

[@bakerfamily5126]

what anchors do you like to use when nailing a baseplate to concrete?

[@emilolguin3087]

Plywood sub top should be 5/8" plywood to be properly hidden behind the stone edging. In fact, because you are using a face frame cabinet, you could even use 1/2" ply as a sub-top and allow the edge of the stone to overlap a full 1/4" without affecting cabinet utilization. Especially with quartz tops, their tensile strength is almost double that of natural stone. Your description of the relationship of the stone top to the sink is correct, however, I would have done the math before ordering the cabinet and had it built taller. I have spec'd and built custom cabinetry for 20 years (mostly euro, no room for errors). Thanks for your channel, I share it with my workers.

[@StudPack]

Cool thx Emil. I haven’t seen 5/8” plywood in years. Who still makes it?

[@treeguyable]

Got a spice pull out next to my stove. A must when re- modelling!

[@steveksi]

1/2" 4x8 sheetrock is $12.76tax inc. - T&G Underlayment Plywood (Scant Face) (Common: 23/32 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.688 in. x 48 in. x 96 in.) $107.41 - 2x4x8 stud $9.00 - Johns ManvilleR-13 Kraft Faced Fiberglass Insulation Roll 15 in. x 32 ft. $19.37 To give you an idea here is Southern California. Most other stuff are close to last years prices. Just lumber has hit the fan.

[@michaelwilliams5673]

Paul are you putting in a surge protector in the panel. I put one in because most new appliances are like a computer and with the lightning down there it may save a control panel. Keep up the great work and videos

[@StudPack]

Thx Michael 👍 I asked my electrician about them. Almost always it’s a commercial application for surge suppressors here. I love the idea though. I’ll research them 👊

[@mr.g937]

@@StudPack seems louisiana is still on 2014 NEC. Just would be a shame if a new panel install isn't thinking about the inevitable future 2020 NEC (e.g. Texas already adopted). Since any future work would have to bring up to code at that time. NEC 2020 requires surge protectors, GFCI on your washer dryer. Pretty much every circuit needs to be one or both of AFCI and GFCI after NEC 2020.

[@StudPack]

Thx Mr G👍. This new GE panel should accept all those. We did install couple AFCIs on the added circuits

[@rickjames302]

buchanan crimp nuts are the best things ever. it is all i use although it is very hard to find them anymore locally due to everyone swapping to the wagos

[@tommynguyen8942]

I just remodeled our kitchen. Made my wife super happy by putting in a pot filler over the stove. Every kitchen I’ve done in the past year, I make sure to mention putting in a pot filler for the customers. 90% wants it.

[@degrom542]

Pot fillers are great . Iv'e been exploring options for drainage .something like a washing machine has . Using a special pot that drains into the top of the stove and into a flexible drain.

[@tommynguyen8942]

@@degrom542 what do you need a drain for with a pot filler?

[@StudPack]

Don’t see a lot of those locally. Mostly higher end homes. Besides, we’re used to lifting heavy pots here... gumbo, jambalaya, I’m hungry is it lunchtime 😂😂👍👊

[@tommynguyen8942]

@@StudPack that’s what would separate you guys from the ordinarily contractor. It doesn’t have to be only in higher end homes and believe me, the wives would love it! 👍🏼

[@degrom542]

@@tommynguyen8942 so after you fill the pot with maybe three gallons of water then you need to carry it over to the sink and pour it down the drain. It’s heavy for your average female maybe 24 lbs of water to carry over to the sink.

[@treeguyable]

As an amateur, now I don't feel so bad , making a mock up frame for my bathroom sink/ cabinet install. It helped tremendously for measurements.

[@StudPack]

Cool thx Mike 👊👍

[@sruss9114]

Your homeowners might want to rethink putting spices, etc in the niche behind the cooktop. Not only will the heat and cooking generated steam affect the freshness if herbs, reaching over hot burners and pans put the cook at risk of injury. Just sayin🙂

[@AussieInSeattle]

Not to mention most spice bottles aren't exactly showpiece items you'd want to display in a kitchen.

[@lrc87290]

Excellent tip on the kitchen sink drain height!!

[@Henray316]

Gotta love studpack didnt know what it takes to install a farm sink the correct way.

[@lucvandecasteele7696]

if the spicerack goes behing the range, will the jars not get greasy over time?

[@sidclark3249]

stumbled on to you a couple of weeks back. good videos. some good tips.

[@nickbailey202]

The Stud Pack cast of characters is growing

[@hansangb]

You guys and Richard (Finish Carpentry TV) have the same qualities. Humble, genuine and knowledgeable *and* personality that shines through. Sure fire winning formula on YT. I always tell people, if you want to be a good presenter, know your stuff HANDS DOWN. People can pick out a fraud a mile away.

[@kevinwett2212]

No matching cabinets in that laundry room? I would like to see your take on best practice for the dryer vent I hate how they push the dryer out and can get bent or pop off, there has to be a better system.

[@StudPack]

We’ll probably paint them to match with new doors. Dryer vents are a pain. Looking at mag vents for this one

[@BubbasDad]

Would have put the two gang plate on the dryer box anyway. You can use a single 120v outlet with a two gang plate with a blank on one side. Also, There is a kit for most dryers that will allow you to vent out the side of the dryer to eliminate a lot of twisted vent pipe if you can vent outside to the side.

[@StudPack]

Someone else commented same. Excellent ideas thx James 👍

[@Kevin-ip8uf]

I'm one of those 5 viewers I guess. those crimpers are expensive dude, we used to use them at the drydock to make connections so they wouldn't vibrate apart while the ferries were at sea

[@garbo8962]

Great using the roomier 4 &11/16" box for the 10/3 NM cable. Should always have large opening in mud ring so that in event screws come loose the cover will not fall off. Saw a lot of electricians install them wrong. Ge is the absolute worse breaker besides worst service + tech support.Had trouble with every ge medium voltage switchgear that companies had.

[@StudPack]

Thx. Not following “ cover will not fall off “ ?? GE was the only 150A 32 space panel our supplier could get 👍

[@captaink118]

What are you doing for exhaust heat for that wall mounted tv?

[@durkus]

The sides of the farm sink are normally not square top or bottom. Both sides tend to slope in from top to bottom. I found out when I cut the U-shaped board around it. Make a template.

[@StudPack]

Thx Dirk. This one is actually not too bad 👍

[@dereksellars]

Great videos Paul and Jordon !!! I have done a lot of things you have been doing, but now I just do the small stuff that Big contractors don't want to mess with. Can't blame them. I love remodeling :) Keep it up !!! We are going to have a Snow cone (BEER) someday !! Thanks :)

[@MudHere1]

I know this is an older video but you say the word "disposal" funny 🤣.

[@StudPack]

It’s from when I was a kid. Waste king made a unit pronounced that way Dispose-All and I always say it like that now 😂

[@1packatak]

Hmmm. Remember that when you are cooking, grease and condensation will form. And it will land on those bottles of spices you are going to put on that niche. Which means the homeowner will need to spend extra time cleaning.

[@StudPack]

Yeah we discussed that. They’re cool with it 👍

[@turboflush]

I prefer that method of the panel. Not running the main in same spot as thr circuits.

[@johnabrams5623]

Keep up the good work guys. Simply the best channel on KZbin

[@astikennel]

I would like to know what kind of nailer that you have

[@Marcus_Aurelius_Maximus]

Dispos-saul... love it !

[@deanmilken3633]

For all the drywall, insulation, for that amount i paid 325$. You just have to smooch the snizzle alittle. As long as you let them know youll have future projects that your doing and your going through them for materials, theyll be your best friend.

[@j_craft11]

Great video as always. Just curious what a nail plate is used for?

[@StudPack]

Nail plates stop drywall screws, cabinet hanging screws, baseboard nails, etc before they can damage a cable or pipe.

[@atiqulny]

What is the color of the cabinets? They look really awesome. My next project is the install new cabinets and surprise my wife. I love the gold hardware too.

[@StudPack]

Factory paint/color. Sorry idk 🤷

[@gekkehenkie0001]

I still find it interesting to see how many things electrical (sockets, etc) are made of metal in the US while over here (Netherlands) those are always plastic. And I never understood why that is. Over here it is to make sure the pipes/sockets/channels never are able to conduct electricity in case of a failure. But why is it like that in the US? Is it because the sockets are double functioning as grounding?

[@randywl8925]

You're covering that piece of plywood for the TV hole with sheetrock to keep it from getting stolen right? I just price some plywood locally and I live on the Oregon coast. $105 per sheet for 3/4 in AC. 😖

[@StudPack]

😂 yeah plus I almost got a police escort after I bought all the wire for this one 👍👊🇺🇸

[@randywl8925]

Question about the opening for the TV. Is the TV 32 in or is the screen 32 in?

[@StudPack]

Screen diagonal is 32”👍

[@jessicahites871]

Know all about few inches costing big money!! Good thinking ahead guys!!

[@adamluera2145]

$43 dollars for a sheet of osb,down here in West Texas, for roof patch job,so I decided to ditch the osb and went with a traditional blue tarp,lol great video

[@thezfunk]

I think it was $48 a sheet in Wisconsin. 1/2" CDX plywood is $57.

[@NunYaaBizz]

$100 a sheet here in Toronnto Canada

[@StudPack]

😳

[@markarita3]

5:13 pile of gold...no kidding!!! Keep an eye on that.

[@poeticsilence047]

Whoaaaa Whoaaaa. Whose the guy at the end? Paul wears a hat.

[@rodpotts6317]

$205. For 2 -2x12x20 and the wird thing 2x6x16 twp was like $24 and 2x6x16 #2 was $36 yesterday. Oklahoma

[@dlkirk031]

That TV can't breath. You need to put something in so that heat can evacuate out the back of the TV. Made this mistake once. The TV will die quicker. We just drilled some holes in the top and bottom of the back of the plywood, but not sure how commercial varies from residential. Also, you may know this but paint the inside of the cutout black, then even if the TV is not a 100% fit the black looks like part of the bezel of the TV.

[@1packatak]

I agree. You could easily put up a moveable TV mount. That way the TV can be moved around so anyone can see it.

[@StudPack]

Cool thx Dustin 👍💪

[@stevebabiak6997]

Dustin beat me to it for the risk of TV overheating. And his idea of black paint rocks too.

[@Kil7witch84]

Pile of gold ... ROFL. Awesome!

[@duffmann]

What are the nail plates for?

[@y00h0011]

Buchanan C-24 member! lol Believe it or not, Buchanan used to sell steel crimps as well.

[@StudPack]

I remember those 😂👍

[@yixnorb5971]

I was doing finish installations in new construction when I noticed the dishwasher could not be opened because it shared the same corner as the fridge, which stuck out 3/8 inch too far.

[@ardemus]

Love your videos. I'm wondering, why not put the 2 gang ring in for the dryer to start and use a blank cover on the unused space, so there's no drywall rework if they upgrade?

[@StudPack]

Done 👍thx 👊