This LITTLE KNOWN tip will cut your sanding time in HALF!

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▼EXPAND THIS SECTION FOR IMPORTANT INFO▼ *Tools used in this video:* 3M Cubitron II Sanding Discs: lddy.no/1hyoq 3M Dust Extractor: lddy.no/1hyp2 3M Professional Sander: lddy.no/19fcc *My hand tool collection includes premium tools from Bridge City Tool Works:* bridgecitytools.com/ ★TAYLOR TOOLWORKS IS A SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS WORTH SUPPORTING★ *They are also supporters of this channel who help keep our videos free. Please support them AND us by saving and using this link whenever you buy tools: lddy.no/s80f *Please help support us by using the link above for a quick look around!* (If you use one of these affiliate links, we may receive a small commission) *Some other useful links:* -More videos on our website: stumpynubs.com/ -Subscribe to our e-Magazine: stumpynubs.com/browse-and-subscribe/ -Check out our project plans: stumpynubs.com/product-category/plans/ -Instagram: instagram.com/stumpynubs/ -Twitter: twitter.com/StumpyNubs ★SOME OF MY FAVORITE CHEAP TOOLS★ -123 Blocks: lddy.no/vpij -Mechanical Pencils: amzn.to/2PA7bwK -Lumber pencil: amzn.to/2QtwZjv -Pocket Measuring Tape: amzn.to/2kNTlI9 -Irwin Drill Bit Gauge: amzn.to/2AwTkQg -Nut/Bolt/Screw Gauge: amzn.to/2CuvxSK -Self-Centering Punch: amzn.to/2QvbcrC -Self-Centering Bits: amzn.to/2xs71UW -Angle Cube: lddy.no/10nam -Steel Ruler: lddy.no/10mv7 -Utility knife: amzn.to/3nfhIiv -Center-Finding Ruler: lddy.no/10nak -Bit & Blade Cleaner: amzn.to/2TfvEOI -Digital depth gauge: amzn.to/3mwRf2x -Wood Glue: amzn.to/3mqek6M -Spade Bits: amzn.to/3j8XPtD ★SOME OF MY FAVORITE HAND TOOLS★ -Digital Caliper: amzn.to/384H1Or -Marking Gauge: lddy.no/10muz -Marking knife: lddy.no/10mv0 -Narex Chisels: lddy.no/sqm3 -Stanley Sweetheart Chisels: amzn.to/3y5HDOc -Mini Pull Saw: amzn.to/2UEHBz6 -Gent Saw: lddy.no/ss2x -Coping saw: amzn.to/2W7ZiUS -Shinwa Rulers: lddy.no/zl13 ★SOME OF MY FAVORITE POWER TOOLS★ -Miter Saw: amzn.to/3gqIlQ8 -Jointer: amzn.to/3yc3gfZ -Planer: amzn.to/3mn6BGF -Router: amzn.to/3grD22S -Sander: amzn.to/3DdvD0Y -Cordless drill: amzn.to/3D9ZiIm -Brad nailer: amzn.to/3gsRkjH -Mini Compressor: amzn.to/3mvrmQr -Bladerunner: amzn.to/2Wl0TtJ -Jig Saw: amzn.to/3zetTBY -Scroll Saw: amzn.to/3gq9qDc -Multi-Tool: amzn.to/3muZuMi ★SOME OF MY FAVORITE OTHER TOOLS★ -Drill Bits: amzn.to/3B8Ckzh -Forstner Bits: amzn.to/3kk3wEI -Shop Vacuum: amzn.to/2Wkqnbl -Machine Setup Blocks: amzn.to/3gq7kDh -Counter-Sink Bit: amzn.to/37ZukUo -Featherboard: amzn.to/3DeqHsq -ISOtunes Hearing Protection (Save $10): bit.ly/3BHYdH7 (If you use one of the affiliate links above, we may receive a small commission)

[@zqzj]

Loved the video! Could you do a comparison of weight loss on two pieces of wood with both types of sanding?

[@BrianThorstad]

Ok my friend Stumpy… I hope you don’t mind the artificial familiarity but “we’ve spent quality time together” and I’ve with eyes wide open spent several hundred dollars on your advice…today I bought a multipack of what I hope to be my forever sanding disks (from TatTools who indeed are great). Thanks for the thoughtful advice; I and many others thank you. (Maybe more than a few hundred…)

[@robertdavenport6705]

From my years of floor sanding I can confirm that dust buildup under orbital sanding discs or sheets is a primary cause of scroll marks. Reduced density of grit on the sheet ( i.e. , dust clogging , ) does not allow the sheet to remove its own marks. As a corollary , do not use worn 120 to get 150 results. Throw away the 120 and switch to fresh 150. Sounds like everyone should know both of these things , but I've seen so called carpenters use a worn and clogged disc all morning and simply burnish , not sand , the wood.

[@garymiller5937]

Thanks Stumpy. I appreciate all the advice you share with us. 😊😊😊😊

[@marcossuarez7360]

I just want to say thank you, for everything. Because of you I had improved several things in my work. Once again: thank you

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Thanks for sharing with us James. Those sanding disc's and the shop-vac system sure helps cut the time for sure. Stay safe and keep up the great information. Fred.

[@jasondoust4935]

You're bang on, James. Dust extraction doesn't quite make sanding enjoyable, but certainly more efficient and satisfying.

[@joeguilfoyle1922]

I have a pack of these discs at home but haven't tried them yet. I had no idea what the holes were for. I'm so glad you made this video because i have to sand my bathroom door, probably tonite, and repaint it. So this video was perfect timing. My daughter works for 3M and once a year, they have a sale where employees can buy their products. She's allowed 1 guest and she brings me. That's how I got the sandpaper. Cant wait to try it tonite now that I know.

[@XDIY]

Seems like the best useful tip that I've seen in your channel latetly! I have to try it. Thanks.

[@Mason-hs9oz]

Those sanding discs are actually really great! I thought it was a gimmick, but I'm going to buy them from now on after trying a small pack

[@bigburlymikesmswoodworking]

I love the 3M sandpaper and have moved to it exclusively. It does a far better job than my old sandpaper, and it lasts a lot longer as well.

[@peterszutu555]

Never use 3M Cubitron net sandpaper without a pad saver. The pad’s Velcro hooks are too long and protrude through the sandpaper, causing the hooks to wear off. Pad savers are $2 each attaches to original pad and has Velcro hooks to grab the paper. The pad saver will last quite a while but certainly a lot cheaper to replace the pad saver than a new pad for your sander. Just something I’ve learned in my journey.

[@johnduffy6546]

Excellent information. Since I hate sanding, I'm definitely going to buy some of these.

[@markisom78]

I bought those same 3M sanding disc's and wondered about those holes. I was always trying to line them up with the holes on the machine but that proved very time consuming and almost impossible. So thanks very much for clarifying the reason behind them small holes.

[@deanaoxo]

I really started using vacuum on my shop projects about two years ago, it really blew my mind the difference.....

[@kontoname]

A good vacuum should suck and not blow by the way

[@TimeSurfer206]

@@kontoname Whenever I have been sucked, it has always blown my mind. AND my "Nose."

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@TimeSurfer206 I tried to suck my nose clean with a shop vac, and it sucked out a portion of my brain with it! Lucky for me it is one of those that is bi directional, and so I put it in reverse, and blew it back in!🤪

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting indeed! Thanks for testing it, James! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@michaelarighi5268]

Working on a large project (~1000 sq ft of sanding). Used the Cubitron Xtract disks with dust collection on my DeWalt sander and found I got excellent results with very few passes. Fully agree with your conclusions.

[@modifierle]

I tried the cubitron sandpaper because you mentioned it on a previous video and I can attest there is a major difference in quality over store bought discs. They seem to last much longer too!

[@Andre_the_Lion]

Things like this are the main reason I would encourage all users of power tools to try things by hand for a while: the feedback you get working by hand often makes things like this obvious, in turn improving your power tool woodworking quality, speed, and tool life.

[@stephenmcgeown]

Sanding is the least enjoyable part of woodworking so I'm all for learning as many ways to make it as effective and efficient as possible. Thanks for sharing all of these product and technique tips, James!

[@coppulor6500]

"least enjoyable". that's being generous. sanding blows!!

[@stephenmcgeown]

@@coppulor6500 Haha, yes, I was being unnecessarily generous about sanding!

[@thenext9537]

I have a bosch sander 5" using 775w , using a medium / light suction on dust. Yes, game changer. My sanding time is so much faster, been on this path for 7 months.

[@glenlongstreet7]

I am not a rich man, so a vacuum cleaner with an automatic on switch connects to your favorite tool was out of my reach. However, for about $30 I bought a plug with two outlets, one for the tool and one for the vacuum cleaner. I got a small 6 gallon vacuum from the big box store. I have it hooked up to my table saw and my thickneser? (What they call it on the other side of the pond). Huge difference. I will start using it for my sanders. Thanks James

[@MikeyJ_366]

Great video and channel Stumpy! I’ve been watching for years but not a big comment guy. Just want you to know you do great work!

[@andrewj5998]

I've found that attaching a shop vac to my sander gives vastly better results than relying on the sander's onboard dust collection bag. I never really thought too much of it beyond that. Another informative Stumpy Nubs video - you can't beat quantifiable results.

[@ericschumacher5452]

That’s good to know. I was going to ask that, since the video didn’t compare the sander’s onboard bag versus a dust collector/shop vac.

[@TrondOleJensen]

I tried this and I got the same result, and so much better work environment. I have a dust deputy, and Diablo’s SandNET disks on my Milwaukee M18 orbital sander.

[@Clint3029]

Thanks for all of information about sanding. Forty plus yeas of woodworking and I paid little priority of sanding machines or papers. Before a year ago last June I never spent more than $100 for a sander not more than 40 cents per disk. Sanding is now something I don't get annoyed about.

[@priayief]

That's an informative video. Something that most of us wouldn't try ourselves. Thank you.

[@rwg727]

I learned something! Thank you Mr Nubs!

[@mr.t9976]

Those cubitron sanding disks ARE the best! I find I wear out the velcro out first before the actual sanding material

[@patjackson1657]

Great video! About the same time I found fittings so that my sanders would connect to the dust extractor, I bought a sample pack of Mirca discs. Maybe the astonishing speed of sanding was not just the Mirca discs. Thanks!

[@B30pt87]

Outstanding! Thank you very much.

[@dtom1145]

Removing the dust keeps the sanding disk in better contact with the wood since it doesn’t have to continuously “regrind” the loose dust particles. Even when hand sanding I will always wipe the surface with a micro cloth between passes. Makes a huge difference.

[@gillie-monger3394]

Started using Cubitron discs on recommendation not long after they came out. With extraction they work 100% better than standard discs and do indeed both improve the quality of the finish as well as speeding up the dreaded sanding work. I'd never go back.

[@mrcryptozoic817]

Thanks! That's very helpful information. I've seen disks with that hole pattern but didn't understand them so I avoided them.

[@joesmith1574]

This is good to know, thanks for the information. I’m going to use vacuum from now on.

[@petenelson8136]

Cool comparison. Can't wait to get my shop up and running ... 4 weeks to go 🙂till my new house is finished an my woodworking shop is done. Then the real work begins on setting my shop up and getting everything tuned up, not to mention all the projects I've got to do to finish the house.

[@adamcoe]

Cubitron II is head and shoulders the best stuff out there and when factoring in your time, is actually one of the most cost effective options as well. Absolutely no brainer purchase, even if you just have a regular ass shop vac like myself. Bonus points if you have one of the super nice 3M or Festool dust extractors.

[@asaturn]

the tiny holes thing is crazy. it makes sense - it creates a venturi effect!

[@andyc972]

Interesting, thanks for sharing this !

[@billybike57]

Thanks for sharing some great advice!

[@elberthardy961]

So cool to learn this! Thank you!

[@markduggan3451]

Great information as always.

[@BlackFoxLovesYou]

I had no idea it helped at all, game changer!!

[@DB_Customs]

Great video! Thanks for sharing this information!!!

[@DD-uf2uo]

Excellent video. Thanks 👍.

[@CalmBeforeTheStorm76]

First of all... You have no idea how much more efficient you're making countless woodworkers by demonstrating this on your channel. I had heard rumors about the 3M paper, and had never bothered trying it... But, last week, while ordering a bunch of "state of the art" blue aluminum oxide discs off Amazon to begin major sanding of the oak legs of a major work/specialty bench , I happened to pick up a trial pack of the cubitron II Xtract discs. I wasn't sure what to expect. But, the results were so drastically better than the aluminum oxide "trapezoid" pattern amazon discs, I gave up using them altogether except for incredibly fine grits of 400 and above where the amount of sanding required is much less than the lower grits. Thank you so much for the insight... So many of us are traditionalists who are reluctant to buy into anything new... and sometimes, there's something to be said for that. But, with this, there is no comparison. It saves you so much time that you'll regret every time you ever sanded previously to this, knowing that there's a better way. I may have pride... But, in this case, my pride plays absolutely no roll. My time is far too valuable to waste it with a method that takes far more time, for no good reason. One more thing. If I'm working with wood, does it matter if I get the mesh discs or should I stick with the cubitron you showed in the video? I need to buy more, and I want to try the standard ones.. Unless they're inferior to the mesh/Xtract/Cubitron 2 discs. Thanks again so much!

[@StumpyNubs]

I think the mesh discs work faster and give the best dust collection results, but the will wear out faster if you are aggressive with them, especially around the edges.

[@brettjohnson9453]

Lumber crayons are really good for hand planing, besides showing the high / low spots the wax lubricates the plane sole as you work. Nearly all the wood I work with is dense Australian hardwoods and I find that I need to wax the plane sole frequently, so using crayons on the wood has become a common process for me.

[@jimrosson6702]

Great tips as always thanks for sharing

[@srmofoable]

I've been using the cubitron grinding wheels for a decade after a free trial. I'll have to give the sanding discs a try

[@johnford7847]

Interesting observation. I'm not convinced that the smoothness of the surface is better when a vacuum is used - but I can't see how to measure that without some expensive or at least time-consuming steps. But the reduction in dust is enough to make me use a vacuum when sanding. Thanks, sir.

[@catat9442]

Great info, and I totally agree from experience as well. I would only say, for the past year now I have been using Mirka abernets and just today even with out dust collection using their 80 grit on rough sawn oak my sanding was less than half the time using paper and the Abernets last a very long time and no I am not a Mirka shareholder.

[@apsynto]

One very quickly becomes a Mirka shareholder. You start off with just few discs and end up with a box of 60, 80, 120, 180, 240 and 320 grits just because 😂 stuff is damned pricey but really good

[@waynemiller6070]

Yes Sir, I've noticed the same thing even with my shitty paper. Lol I used to try to do my sanding outside, but I now have a work station toward the back of my garage now where I have a second vacuum. Stays surprisingly clean while effectively sanding.

[@bluewren65]

I have a Bosch shop vac and it seems to do an excellent job at dust extraction when coupled with my Bosch orbital sander. I really need to get some of the Cubitron sanding discs.

[@watermain48]

Thanks James.

[@thomaskirkpatrick4031]

That's was impressive, I'm gonna have to dig out the dust extractor hose that came with my sander.

[@rogerprice4504]

In hindsight, I guess it’s obvious that clearing the sweepings off the floor as you sweep makes the job quicker. But this is the first time I’ve seen this on a video, thanks. Worth attaching the hose for!!

[@thereddufus]

The distinction between a dust extractor and a shop vac is basically the magnitude of the vacuum they can pull. This pressure differential is ~additive. With this in mind, I get really good results connecting my shopwide dust collector to the outlet of my shop vac. The total suction of the combined system is noticeably better than the shop vac alone. This is still not the same as something like the 3M, I have that thing at work and it is amazing, but every bit of added suction helps.

[@roryjai]

Thank you so much for this!

[@ChuckCooper]

That sand paper is awesome game changer.

[@calaveraXIII]

Love your explanation, BRGDS.

[@gregarnholt1555]

Another great video, thank you

[@Burnsalmighty]

I use two sanders at once 😂 Thanks for another great video!

[@ruffiun1881]

Thanks for the heads up

[@xoxo2008oxox]

Irony: James timing of sanding, dust collection and my agro throw of a crappy shopvac down the stairs! And that I just ordered a festool hepa setup and sander. Thanks James for the demo and wisdom!

[@harrymason1053]

Very helpful.

[@mikedurkee7296]

It's the only sandpaper I use. I have a DeWalt ROS and a Rigid vacuum that has a DustStopper attached. I am a hobbyist woodworker and I agree 100% with James. I was noticing on my last project (crib board) the difference between sanding with and without the vac attached... I thought it was my imagination... did a lame a$$ test for myself and thought "hmmm, might be smart to keep the vac attached all the time" after seeing James do this test I am sold. Also, to anyone that has never used Taytools I'm a firm believer and I am not and will not be a "youtube influencer" I would much rather be making sawdust in my woodshop (aka garage).

[@greggerstner5599]

I was lucky enough to be introduced to random orbit sanders by a magazine article decades ago and got my porter cable and an adapter hose for the shop vac. Lots of noise but, as the (fw?) article pointed out, using this way made the discs last a lot longer. Don't remember if it mentioned quicker as well. Guess I always assumed so and almost never sand without a vac attached. Hate sanding of all types. Trying to cut down on it as much as possible. But the ro and vac are are about as efficient as portable power tools get. Another great vid. Thanks.

[@rojer9542]

I was introduced to the Porter Cable random orbital sander with dust collection around 1988, been using them ever since. Getting a “dust extractor” was a nice addition, especially with the hepa filter, but a regular shop vac worked fine for years. I”ll have to try the Cubitron discs now that I know a little bit more about them.

[@greggerstner5599]

I've found that the shop vac works better than a dust collection system. That article, or maybe another one mentioned that you can also remove a rubber belt on the pc (looked like a rubber band) that's there for slowing the machine when you turn it off (instead of some sort of motor brake. Not sure if this is possible on a small tool). Removing this lets the sander cut with a lot more power. You have to be careful, maybe a scrap to set the sander on while it slows down. And don't start the sander unless it's flat on the surface, otherwise it will gouge the finish. Since then, I've had no use for a belt sander, and I also do as much planing and card scraping before any sanding. You probably already know most or all of this. If so, apologies for this novel, but just on case . . .

[@davewilson4957]

That cubitron paper is a game changer, worth every penny

[@ksfwg2717]

I've been using Cubitron sanding discs since I first saw them on the market. They not only do a better job, they last much longer than other sanding discs.

[@WHITTONZ]

Dear Stumpy Nubs and fellow watchers. Should you use perforated discs, then you must have suction on, otherwise the migrating dust shall clog up the disc fitting surface and it will come off well before it is worn out. Trying to persuade it to stick again is often a waste of time. Thank you for another instructive show. Best wishes from West Cornwall, U.K.

[@MarkNiceyard]

pretty good tipps! thx for the vid.

[@jimfoster5602]

Brilliant!

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

Thanks so much

[@alison155]

Thank you so much... 💓

[@owlhoots1]

Great video

[@jos6415]

I use cubitron disks ( after you recommended them in a previous video ) Mine have a mesh rather than holes and they work very well.

[@StumpyNubs]

I like the mesh, but many find the spiral ones more durable.

[@Artexmadera]

I switched to cubitron mesh disks about a year ago, will never go back to any other one, would be nice if you make a video on cubitron sanding disks....thanks for the videos!

[@HD-su9sq]

Thanks Stumpy! I’m one of those guys who is too lazy to attach the shop vac. I will try this. Now, about that plane….😅

[@m.a.r.services5720]

Good stuff. Thanks

[@WoodenItBeNice]

Very interesting video James. Take care. Cheers, Huw

[@lint2023]

Actually, the dust migration path is interesting. Share more of your discussion with 3M, sometime, if there is more.

[@StumpyNubs]

I think I will make a detailed video about what makes Cubitron II different. But I can't do too many sanding videos too close together or people just complain.

[@kholdanstaalstorm6881]

​@@StumpyNubs Some do get rubbed the wrong way by the smallest of grit, there's no way to smooth out everyone's experiences... Sorry, I couldn't stop myself when that line popped into my mind, I just had to...

[@mountainousterrain1704]

@@kholdanstaalstorm6881 Indeed, many abrasive personalities on KZbin...

[@jackthomson73]

@@mountainousterrain1704and some need to be rubbed out 😂

[@flemmingaaberg4457]

Nah stuff em - bring it on! @@StumpyNubs

[@amycyclenut]

I'm a beginner woodworker, in fact I wouldn't even call myself that, I just build stuff for myself. And the differences in sanding time was so noticeable even to me. The only thing I will use now, even if they are more expensive.

[@pamarcoux7134]

In my personal quest to woodworking, sir, you are a reference, and I really appreciate your videos ! Now, if you could make one, where are you find a solution to making sending one that would be awesome 😂

[@wmsymonds810]

Thanks

[@dannyhale7645]

Very interesting.

[@orionred2489]

I would LOVE to have been there when someone said... ya know, we might be able to use smaller holes to get better suction. That nerd moment of grabbing onto an idea and running with it is glorious.

[@1Darkvictory]

Good visual demonstration. The multiple small hole sanding discs look to be more efficient. I wonder if the vacuum assist sander will have a better life span with the small hole sanding discs. Thank you, Be Well!

[@watchman1969]

impressive!

[@Critter145]

Maybe the waste extraction keeps the feed rate higher than otherwise? If you break down sanding into a discrete number of interactions between the medium and the workpiece, I’d imagine that waste removal keeps the average higher than it would be if the sand paper is gunked up, but I think you basically said that already.

[@tonysheerness2427]

The quicker chips and dust are removed the less strain on the cutting device.Your demonstration shows it perfectly.Reciprocal saws have the problem because they only move about an inch and not enough movement to clear chips and can bog down. Sanding discs without dust extraction are just floating on dust and not doing anything.Your demonstrations show the obvious that most people miss in a very simple way.

[@jasonricchio5139]

I am still in the “Shop Vac” phase of dust collection. Hoping to upgrade to a 2-stage, ductless system for my small shop over the winter.

[@covishen]

I'm sold. Maybe not with the 3M setup, way too pricey, but the sanding disks aren't that bad. Up until now I've been getting the "500 disks for $20" from Fleabay. Just watching you take down the wood crayon with one pass is worth me getting one pack to try.

[@bigjgordon]

FWIW - I made the switch after watching another video James did a year or so ago and I will never - EVER - go back to the old discs. It was truly amazing what a difference they made. Got mine from Shmamazon and they had a slightly different raised triangular pattern on full mesh (still true 3M Cubitron though) and they scared me how fast they cut, which means more BF per disc in less than half the time. And I don’t think they cost me that much more than the red stuff from the orange people.

[@moeszyslack4676]

As Tom Lipton says, cheap abrasives are a false economy. I've been using the 3M and Freud (for my 5" sander that I don't use often) mesh discs lately and have found they miserable chore of sanding much more bearable. I have a cyclone set up with my shop vac that has a bag and blue filter (intermediate between the standard paper and HEPA). Works well for me and doesn't kill me on cost.

[@joesmith1574]

@@bigjgordon”the red stuff from the orange people”. Too funny.

[@SamWanamaker1]

I thought the same thing, but then saw they were $2 a disc. A bit pricey for something that can rip so easily.

[@drstefankrank]

@@SamWanamaker1They last a lot longer and IMHO the time saved is worth it. I don't use my older stock of cheap ones not any longer.

[@DaveIngle1]

Love the videos... keep them coming. Would a more fair test have been the disc with holes, no dust extraction vs the disc with holes, with dust extraction? Just wondering if the holes also had something to do with the better removal. Not sure how but, it was another variable.

[@ryanc8188]

I used to just use regular flat disks and decided to try the mirka iridium's, well the supplier only had ones with holes so eh what the heck lets get my sander upgraded to full vacuum, luckily I have a festool cleantec to hook it up to. Just the amount of dust that isn't coating all my horizontal surfaces was a night and day difference and the sandpaper lasts longer ans doesn't get hot. If you're on the fence about upgrading to a vac set up and like keeping your shop and lungs clean its worth the price.

[@earljtharp]

That 3M sandpaper is da bomb.

[@MrMawnster]

I like Mirka screens, I'll have to try the cubitron though

[@nevermindthebull0cks]

Good vid, hope it's cheaper than Festool paper:) I really like the sanders I have from them and the Hepa vac.

[@wayner806]

Nice!

[@hishamhamdan2105]

I'm a fan from Syria.. A guy made an ultimate sanding pad comparison. Long test video.. Cupitron kills the competition

[@thisbedoogy]

This is absolutely the case. You should do a video testing vacuum settings, with both sides using the same paper with holes in it. Except this time do one side with low suction on the vacuum setting, and the other side with high suction vacuum setting. The vacuum actually pulls the sander into the work piece as you sand. I would be curious what the results where.

[@coolruehle]

I have had the same results!