Stupid Internet Gun Stuff - Barrel Break-In

[@kylebooher6869]

I went out with my uncle and his new AR. He started doing the barrel break in procedure. I told him it doesn't make a difference with the 2 MOA red dot on top of his gun.

[@thawndoo]

"No, you see, they made these barrels so you can't immediately use them. Shoot, then clean. Shoot, then clean. Shoot, then clean. Shoot, then take to a movie. Shoot, then go on a picnic. Shoot, then candlelit dinner. Shoot, then ..."

[@phantomtroubleshooter2793]

This is how the 6.5 was conceived

[@itstime9040]

Thats one way to put it 😂

[@Venomxjjb]

I remember when i got a new AR about 5 years ago. Went out with a buddy and he mentioned we needed to break in on it. I proceeded to run 3 mags through it back to back, was smoking when i was done. THE LOOK ON HIS FACE!!!! PRICELESS!!!!

[@JohnW-yv6yp]

Haha, that’s awesome. Is he more educated now or still have stupid ideas?

[@dogbugler]

I did the same darn thing to my first AR....5 mag dumps...still working. Regards, Doug

[@JohnW-yv6yp]

Van Guard How is that related? He’s not suggesting not maintaining the gun. Breaking in the barrel on your gun is like only going 20 miles per hour for the first 100 miles and changing your oil twice when you get a new car. Whereas shooting it like you’re supposed to is like, driving the car like a normal person.

[@Venomxjjb]

@Van Guard no, I'm not saying burn your gun to the ground in a meltdown or not properly maintain it. I just dont buy the barrel break in nonsense. Run the gun, get it hot, see what rattles loose.

[@7norton4]

Break-in was critical process on my .40cal 1911.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

I bet.

[@7norton4]

@@ShanLiB Did you detect a slight bit of sarcasm?

[@82lawless]

@@todd2962 that's all? Well, guess you gotta start somewhere 👍

[@bucksshots3109]

@@ShanLiB are you new to the internet?

[@belayasmert9943]

RIP YEAGER. I always go back and watch your videos. Str8 forward no B.S facts. You're truly missed.

[@ThunderMountainTactical]

Years ago our department purchased us two new sniper rifles. They told us then not to worry about breaking in the barrels. So we did the break in with one and not the other just to see. It made zero difference. Also we only cleaned the barrel every 300 rounds and then we would foul the barrel to make sure it stayed the same on our cold bore shot....

[@ShastaBean]

Made zero difference...does that mean they both shot .2645 MOA, or both shot 9.245 MOA, or both were able to hit the side of the mountain they were pointed at?

[@mztd912]

​@@ShastaBean what a dumb question. You think he just made this up? lol. Is this the first time you've ever heard of two rifles shooting virtually the same despite one being broken in? Look around, this has been done before and proven many times that breaking in a barrel is a waste of time.

[@ShastaBean]

@@mztd912 seems it's true what they say: "ask a stupid question"...get a similarly stupid answer. OP said themselves they cleaned both every 300 rds, yet one of the supposed benefits has to do with just that aspect - where break-in can allow for longer period between foulings without losing accuracy as quickly or as much. Both would need to be shot until measurable decrease in accuracy due to fouling, and compare those results. Not simply always clean at some chosen number. And it's a sample-size of 1 anecdotal claim...free of any actual measurements or data...other than "made zero difference". Someone who repeats tests over & over and meticulously records data to compare can realistically make a claim about those particular barrels. Can you point to such tests, that you claim have been done before and proves anything? Even Yeager himself spends the video tripping over himself to call it a myth, with qualifiers to concede it kinda sorta maybe does actually matter...and says precision shooters loading their own benefit...but not something most shooters will discern.

[@ArtisanTony]

I can see reddit users now having head explosions lol

[@Noeland]

I guess I must have been raised right, nobody in my family ever even mentioned barrel break in. I was taught about guns by my oldest brother Harry, who was in the USMC during Vietnam, and my father and other brothers were sportsmen, so I had lots of opinions, ideas and instruction from them all when it came to firearms. All the advice was good it turns out. The first time anybody ever mentioned such a thing to me I was in my late 20's and I just replied with "I just shoot the damn thing. It works or it doesn't. I'll clean it when I get home, thanks."

[@triston5515]

I just train & practice. Then clean & lubricate my guns after each. No need to overthink.

[@SC-us1hs]

krieger himself said ss barrels don't need a break-in. i'll take his word for it!

[@jeremywoodall9800]

Finally someone said this. I have argued with so many people about this. It’s like saying you need to break in a new knife by cutting something and then cleaning it, cutting something else and cleaning it again. It’s so dumb.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Never made a difference. Never.

[@therealfilthyanimal]

First my .40 cal Glock is crap now this! Welcome back bud! 👍🏽👍🏽

[@bertblue9683]

All Glocks are crap, regardless of caliber. :-)

[@belayasmert9943]

As Yeager eloquently states. "40 cal still sucks !"

[@mfattomica3196]

barrel brake in is some bullshit that sells cleaning supplies, people are always looking at there gear or gadgets to help them be a better shooter instead of actually practicing.

[@Doc6mm]

Totally agree In my experience a barrel will either shoot well or not. They tend to gain some precision with use then they gradually loose it over time which is a factor based on number of rounds and cartridge amount of wear and throat erosion. You can maintain some precision by hanging the bullet out more and more as the throat erodes or sometimes increasing velocity can prolong barrel precision life.

[@lukeflaugher5334]

I’m glad you addressed this!

[@billterry967]

Growing up me my brother and cousins we where giving a ruger 10/22 and we shot so many rounds through it and we are still shooting it to this day our kids and grand kids. And it's still shooting squirrel's and rabbits and menacing tin can. And sad to say the barrel has never had a bore brush in it only a bore snake to dry it out after coming in after a rain. I'd be afraid to clean it now lol.

[@billterry967]

@@JoshuaRoberts_V lol yes they are.

[@brianlence459]

In the manual for the marlin 60w it states.." with normal use, it is not necessary to clean the bore of your rifle"

[@carycary5824]

Thank you. It’s exactly what I thought.

[@Likeashotgun-wl1cm]

Nice info, i didnt break in my M&P15 and it shoots so good. I am impressed after every range session.

[@cbsbass4142]

One thing I've learned from trying break-ins is it sells a lot of ammo and cleaning supplies. I don't think I'll continue doing it.

[@homeinthewhiteoaks]

David Tubb popularized the idea (or was the first time I started seeing it become mainstream) and for him in match competition it makes sense. but marked it to everyone with his line of products. I have talked to people who said they broke in their shotgun barrel !

[@frankbennett3075]

James calling out all the stupid shit people do. Some how, every time, they spill thier Chitos all over the place and lunge at their keyboards to cry and call James Yeager a liar. It never gets old hahahaha.

[@FPSMurdock]

I remember when I first got my AR. More than one person told me, shoot one magazine. After every round, run a bore snake through the barrel. Once that is complete your barrel is good to go. Failure to do this would result in a possibly ruined barrel. They were and still are serious about this. Did I do it? Nope lol.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Those people are IDIOTS.

[@adamcostilla1692]

But my PSA barrel needs all the help it can get!!

[@MrDawg122]

Where was this video a couple months ago. I didn’t think it made sense to have to do all that break in jive. Great vid

[@reliablethreat23]

I miss this man. May he rest in paradise.

[@tommykawasaki9676]

Allow me to explain the nature of the break in process. It’s like seasoning your cast iron skillet, so your food don’t stick, see ? You shoot a round, then goop the bore full of slop,wipe it out & so on. You are seasoning your bore with super special anti fouling juice. Impregnating the little microscopic pores & holes, imperfections & such, with a magical elixir that copper can’t stick to very good. It makes the copper not slough off the bullet as much, cuz the bore is nice & slippery. Thus getting more shots between copper fouling & making it easier to get out when you do clean it. Thus ultimately resulting in getting one extra box & 17/25ths, of ammo stuffed through your barrel before it’s completely shot out. That’s why I do it. & cuz 13 out of 72 top shooters in the world do it.

[@WornoutRNPARAMEDIC]

Thanks James, I always felt this way, but now good to know that, once again, you have researched a question for us and given the results. You do that so often and for that I'm very grateful. Best to you and yours.

[@salcidojosiah]

I thought so too. Seemed crazy watching ppl break in ar 15s with red dots on top.

[@Dcook85]

I've gotten lectured before that I need to do barrel break-in's before I can carry/use a gun, and I always just scratched my head thinking about what the fuck needs to be "broken in" on a barrel. I never really listened, and also coincidentally never had any problems. Thanks for clarifying what I already assumed.

[@dannywhite325]

I have two ARs with the same barrel from the same manufacturer...the first one I did the whole "break in" and it is a tackdriver...built my next AR a year later and just ripped a few magazines down range...guess what, it's a tackdriver as well...from a secure bench rest, both guns will shoot 1" groups at 100yards...outside of the bench rest, they open up slightly, but only because the gun is definitely more accurate that the shooter...lol

[@ShastaBean]

A precision shooter would be sending the gun in for repairs or replacing parts...like the barrel...if shooting 1" @ 100 yards. For them, a tack-driver is .15 - .3. An AR with 16" barrel and long-range precision rifle with 27" are two different activities, in similar way that shooting a pistol and shooting a rifle is. Some will try to work their AR to be as much like a LRP rifle as they can, but anyone serious about it is going to use a bolt action...and also, they are going to break-in the barrel because of how it affects the copper fouling equilibrium curve, and get accuracy for a longer duration in between copper fouling removals. Even the type of break-in process they choose will affect that curve, depending on how often they do cleanings is a factor they use to determine which method to use. So breaking it in, and not breaking it in and then going to the range and checking for a difference isn't the reason it's done. Groups would need to be carefully tracked over the course of every outing, and at some point, the barrel that's broken in should maintain the tighter groups than the one that wasn't. Most people aren't in this category, so the video is correct for most people that are blasting an AR at body sized targets at 20 yards (or 8" steel @ 100)...and for that, 1" is plenty fine - esp given the size of most red-dots.

[@propdoctor21564]

Glad to see this video.... out of the 400 + guns I have owned over the past 15 years I have never done any sort of barrel break in.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Get training.

[@budstermcgreen6360]

I have never practiced barrel break-in..it has never affected anything! My dad has reloaded for as long as I can remember, still does.. and I remember him doing it once. And he would load specific rounds for specific guns.. first testing the powder type..then the bullet...and so on... Till we found the best load for whatever weapon he was working on. I've heard of seasoning a barrel for a muzzleloader..I still didn't do that to the few I've owned and never affected accuracy! ✌

[@chuckjenkins4830]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!

[@davmatt74]

It's not fingerprinting the engine in a car. I can see breaking in moving parts on semi-auto's to smooth operation. I do not recall ever hearing of breaking in a barrel though, that's a new one to me.

[@jay-dee5.562]

I break in all my AR’s/AK’s with 100 round mag dumps. Get that sucker smoking hot🤣

[@CitadelDefense1]

It’s just nice to see a Yeager video up again.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

I put videos up REGULARLY.

[@CitadelDefense1]

James Yeager 😂😂😂 you were on a little hiatus there for a while. That or KZbin didn’t pop you into my subscriber feed for a long time.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Thanks for sharing man. Again! Appreciate it a lot! T.

[@doctorhouse1631]

I broke in a barrel once...then I rode that sucker right over the side of a waterfall. It seemed to work alright to me!

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Damn...

[@muleycrazy121]

Bout damn time someone said this

[@dogbugler]

Thanks James, I knew it..."the wicked witch is Dead". Spot on Mr. James.

[@glockrtf-mj1gh]

I wonder if copper build up in the barrel would be worth doing a video on?

[@russbohman9577]

No. This is pretty much what he is talking about. When you are nailing soda cans at 1200m, sure barrel breakin may work but the time an energy should be spent on learning how to be as accurate as the gun before you work on making a gun more accurate.

[@russbohman9577]

No. This is pretty much what he is talking about. When you are nailing soda cans at 1200m, sure barrel breakin may work but the time an energy should be spent on learning how to be as accurate as the gun before you work on making a gun more accurate.

[@carloparisi9945]

This is one I never heard about, I've been taught to warm a barrel with some shots, before shooting for actual score, but I never heard breaking in was a thing to do.

[@russbohman9577]

@@Tinker.Studio i can offer some advice to get the barrel to a consistent 98.6 degrees farenheit. Though the length and thickness of the barrel one can handle may vary from person to person.

[@carloparisi9945]

@@Tinker.Studio You shoot 3 or 4 shots to sight in the rifle before the match, you want to be sure the gun kept the zero anyway.

[@dylanegan9398]

I really miss these vids man

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Miss? I have a BUNCH.

[@seanwhite304]

Yeah I've never bought into barrel break in either .

[@cannonlove2]

Absolutely if you aren't shooting religiously 1MOA or better on the setup (very few can in reality) it probably doesn't matter. I do shoot those groups and don't bother anyways for practical purposes on factory ammo. If you know how to work up a velocity ladder on reloads then this doesn't apply to you continue your witchcraft lol.

[@freeamerican7842]

I think breaking in the spring and mechanism makes sense, but the barrel?? I'm with you on that.

[@efd2758]

Blaspheme! How dare you tell me I shouldn't waste two months and half my barrel life breaking it in! I'm offended at the mere thought of such horrific words!

[@josie4065]

I break in my barrel by shooting chunks of metal through it really fast at a target.

[@robertalford1321]

Thank you!

[@shaunhawk7598]

Waiting on all of the “yeah but...” folks out there

[@cannonlove2]

Also go ahead and tell them they are cleaning the barrel too damn much anyways on non corrosive ammo . Cleaning can have a negative effect on accuracy due to the velocity change.

[@budstermcgreen6360]

And most people use the wrong equipment and scratch and mess the rifling all up.. which does degrade accuracy. Use the correct rods and guides folks! ✌

[@itswheetie9898]

There should be a love button to hit for this video..

[@TheDannyvincent]

I break in all my 1911s barrels and spare barrels and spare back up barrel to the spare. It's a very complicated process that nobody here would understand. Also so everyone knows my qualifications to comment here I am a navy frogmansealpourpoise. I trained on a log on the bottom of the sea.

[@justsomeguy3931]

At least I got really good at cleaning my 1911 when I first got it... 1 round, clean. Then 2, clean. Full mag, clean. Repeat until 1911's 200+ rounds "break in period" is over. Thanks, old gun shop guy everyone respects. But then people tell me I don't deserve to own a shotgun in front of the whole store, because I ask a question about pellet size. Meh

[@billbee235]

Pretty much sums it up. Barrel break in on a precision rifle barrel is intended to remove burs or machining imperfections in the chamber. For ARs just shoot. If you have a high end bolt action precision rifle with a nice barrel (Krieger, proof, hawk hill, bartlein, etc) Id break it in per barrel makers instructions. That said, if you have a custom bolt gun, you probably already knew that.

[@JinkxSoldga]

Gotta love Fudd lore...

[@spyhunter6411]

That process is what I've always done for zeroing hunting rifles. Not for break in but because I figured the gun would only ever be shot out of a cold clean barrel, so when zeroing I shoot maybe 2 or 3 times then clean and wait for the barrel to get cold. I thought break in was just the first 500 rounds out of a pistol or some other nonsense.

[@johnwilburn]

Do you know how few pistols ever see 500 rounds in their entire life?

[@spyhunter6411]

@@johnwilburn I'm sure very few. Until recently I was lucky enough to have time and money both to cast bullets, reload and shoot pretty often. Back then I was shooting 500 to 1k rounds a week. It was great, since then I cant say I've shot a thousand rounds in the last year and a half. Maybe not even 500. Having a real life is way less fun haha.

[@johnwilburn]

You should take a class with Tactical Response. Fighting Pistol will be t he best 1,000 rounds you’ve ever spent.

[@spyhunter6411]

@@johnwilburn I've taken some local classes and had a blast. Tactical response is on the wish list. I'll make it one day. But considering I didnt even get to take a honeymoon when I got married last year, It may be a bit before I can get there.

[@russbohman9577]

@@spyhunter6411 married 6 years. One kid. No honeymoon. My wife had a fuckin blast at fighting pistol and it gave her the confidence to carry almost every day. In regards to thise classes you took, you didnt mention a name so i will just say, you get what you pay for.

[@ryanpatton5937]

I'm guilty of doing barrel break ins . I'm not a precision shooter my no means I try to be maybe one day thanks for the info BROTHER James. KZbin still sucks with their bullshit gun rules

[@jeffnielsen6437]

but what are we gonna do with that time and energy now? more youtube vids?

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Get training?

[@Mike41919]

So the ranger seal force recon Delta green beret dude lied to me? Here I thought being on AR-15.com it was legit

[@Mike41919]

@@todd2962 ok needed that validation thanks dude

[@DUNCEATRON5000]

Only guys who shoot 9mm PCCs worry about stuff like this. j/k lord!

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

:-)

[@cobra1995xx]

Here comes the " yeah buts "!! Lol

[@ijkledkrtmfgekr]

Ya I'm not tiborasaurus x. I don't need to make a cold bore shot at 1600 yards on a beer can. Insane that he can accomplish that, and he probably does barrel break in. But I'm not that man.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

No and he doesn't clean his barrels EITHER.

[@tlrinc2343]

Rex did a video on barrel break in for his Sniper 101 series. He gave a procedure to do but basically said the difference it makes is so minute that it doesn't really matter if you don't do it. And the dirty barrel James referenced actually leads to greater shot to shot consistency

[@MetalAzza]

JY dropping knowledge as always!

[@WinkenSmile]

Burrs

[@chilltown11]

They are not gonna believe you lol

[@Titanium181991]

DPMS actually recommended cleaning after every round for 100 rounds, I think it was, in their owners manual 10 years ago when I bought one. I never did the break in lol, and that barrel shot great groups.

[@billbee235]

You clean when the accuracy degrades. I clean when my groups open up.

[@cannonlove2]

10 years ago we believed a lot of shut we shouldn't have including manufacturers

[@silencerbear9347]

No one seems to be able to explain what shooting one round then cleaning. Then shooting 3 rounds then cleaning. Then Shooting 5 rounds you had shoved up your ass or 3 weeks. Then cleaning. Actually does. All seems like nonsense to me.

[@billbee235]

Silencer Bear it removes tooling burs in the chamber from the manufacturing process. That’s it.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Brass and copper will not scratch steel.

[@silencerbear9347]

Bill Bakopoulos yeah that can’t be true. Or if it is than the first mag will take care of them anyway. So why break In again? I don’t want to start an argument here but new people get twisted into knots by people making shit up.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Wait, people still do this voodoo witch doctor crap?

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Yep

[@moisesborja8]

To the .40 guys my colt 38 super is better 😀

[@Mogas0311]

The vast majority of barrels (especially AR’s), I don’t mess with it as I’ve noticed zero difference as well. But if I’m paying precision gun prices (just paid $800 for a replacement AI barrel) I just do it so I know that I did everything I could to get the most accuracy out of the gun. It may not help it, but it sure won’t hurt it.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Actually, it MIGHT hurt.

[@ZRUSOutdoorsChannel]

There’s “barrel break in”, which is as you said, and then there’s “seasoning” a barrel.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Myths

[@russbohman9577]

Either you are selling bullshit in a bag labeled "not bullshit" or you are cracking a joke about putting salt and pepper on your gun.

[@ZRUSOutdoorsChannel]

James Yeager not entirely. Seasoning a barrel is when you fowl it to a certain round count where it groups better than a freshly cleaned/ oiled barrel. It maintains this accuracy until it’s overly fowled. Entirely true for 22LR firearms using wax coated bullets or copper washed. Swapping back and forth between the two will give you false reported accuracy unless you run the same ammo type of round for about 5 shots and then check accuracy after those 5. Try it, I tell no lies. It’s an easy demo.

[@joshv06]

I shoot steel cased ammo. My barrel break in is: clean barrel, shoot some brass ammo, then go on and shoot my regular steel cased ammo.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Nonsense

[@danielbaker1976]

Just makes them easier to clean in the future. But I dont do it. Js

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

No it doesn't.