How Orren And Robert Turned Homophobia Into Living, Loving, And Dressing Fearlessly For 43 Years

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[@zoeaffleck2372]

Hiya, I have absolutely LOVED this channel for years and really cherish the work you have done with all of these beautiful people. I wondered if you both had any plans for future interviews in the couple series with older lesbians/ general wlw established relationships. I feel myself underrepresented in the media and just in general with the people i know, and it would be so meaningful to see two women who have stayed together (maybe with a family), and that maybe thats possible for me in my life. sending so much love xxxxx

[@caroldean7710]

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[@meandxui.6239]

I love the love they have for each other but most importantly the love they have for themselves!!!!

[@fractalcat3696]

When Robert took off his wig to reveal another wig.... I just about died

[@rebecca2047]

"Without Rob, there is no Orren" the beauty of their relationship is summed up in one sentence. It actually made me tear up

[@magistushouse]

ME TOO😭😭😭 i am crying right now!

[@cherylarshaluys6079]

I cried too when he said that. 🥹

[@PeachPlastic]

13:45 "We're the entertainment." I especially relate to that part. People have tried to use me as a novelty decoration for their mundane lives often. And it's not a compliment. It's another version of objectification. A pedestal is an open stage for othering. I'm not an accessory.

[@aussiejubes]

Yes. I've never ever heard another person talk about this. I've always called myself a performing monkey because that's what people have always demanded of me. When the penny dropped at 30, I went into isolation & tried to change who I am. A diagnosis of ADHD at 41 helped me start to heal the hurt I felt with this issue. It explains a lot & allows me to navigate social situations & relationships with more authenticity & less fear of being kept around just because I'm the entertainment. This is a fairly niche issue & I'm sorry you can relate! ❤️

[@laybackeasy]

This is so perfectly said!

[@josepinheiro6064]

I call having to be a poodle dancing on their hind legs.

[@CHICREHABADVICE]

EXACTLY! Maybe that's why I have lessoned my friend circle, when I get together with you, I have enough stressors, and I just want to let down my hair, and chill and be real with you!!

[@stitchwitch-c1q]

they are the embodiment of authentic selves. They embody-- a distinct presence that seems to actively deeply love each other without forgoing genuine self love. Their love isn't lazy--you can sense the commitment to their own growth and development. Love is a verb and they are both so beautiful. xxx I wish them continued delights and depths , good health and joy in their own universe created together. Marvellous couple, marvellous individuals. xxxx

[@monsoonmast]

I want to live in a place where people like this are visible and common, they make me feel safe and comfortable.

[@33479Leigh]

Not me

[@BrandieArmijo-ow2xp]

Hahaha the WORLDS LAUGHING at this. It's unbelievably ridiculous.

[@jonny_disorder]

This is exactly the kind of relationship that I want if love will come my way. Beautiful.

[@yarrayarra3731]

Me too 🙌 Nothing less ❤️

[@turnleftaticeland]

I love that he started getting tattoos at 57. Gives me a lot of hope - growth and self-expression never stop 💜

[@luckyhenry9832]

From youthful partying to midlife working through issues with family to 40-something further explorations of self to mature reflections on sex and bodily vulnerability in later life, Orren and Rob took us on a ride. Such assured, authentic people who have wisdom to share. ✌️

[@DivinelyLucid]

I was wishing it can go on forever lol. My gosh, this was amazing.

[@codename495]

What a wonderful couple. Also, YES! Stop making excuses for shit parents. When parents are “ doing the best they can” the child doesn’t want to escape.

[@lsuhillary]

Yes! Very good point And a parent isn't allowed to say "I am a great Mom/Dad!" Their opinion isn't the one that counts.....

[@SmileyAdventures]

I absolutely LOVE their energy and presence. I’d love to meet them and just talk about life. Fabulous and I just know they have sooo many great stories to tell.

[@mightygoodmagic]

Right?! Gods, I'd love to just hang and chat and laugh... They are both EPIC!!

[@suzanne529]

These people are just that, PEOPLE who have gone through so much in their lives. I think it's great that they were able to open up and reveal their true selves. I hope they have wonderful long lives together.

[@bseduarda]

God, watching this interview feels like such a relief. Theres so much healthy decisions and such a healthy mentality. Beautiful!!

[@yarrayarra3731]

“I can inflict enough pain on myself…” 🙏❤️🙏

[@thriftingsuperstars]

Love this sooo much. So inspirational. "He treats me so well and I deserve that" I need to adopt that mindset.

[@susanmontgomery3968]

Such lovely souls! I appreciate them sharing their story. I felt what Orren said about the way mothers are supposed to be and how people make excuses for the bad ones. I wanted to hug him -- it hurts to have your pain and suffering minimized like that.

[@mireillelefevre6092]

Me too 🙌💗💗💗

[@yarrayarra3731]

Me three 🙌🙌🙌❤️❤️❤️

[@chelseaaa7360]

I was very surprised at how much I could relate and needed to hear their story. I'm so happy for them and THANK YOU for rescuing those puppies!

[@4secondsofhaley]

This couple, these human beings, are so so so beautiful.

[@pman2916]

I love what Orren said at the end. It really touched me. "Without Robert, there is no Orren" What a beautiful relationship💙

[@mommylonglegs1795]

Everyone always says I'm crazy when I say hand holding and cuddling is so intimate for me personally. More intimate than sex or even kissing. It caused issues during my early 20's dating life. I just have to be completely comfortable and vulnerable with the person.

[@winging2458]

It is conversations like this that folks need to have to have an understanding of what others go through in their lives. Honesty is KEY to "getting" others, but folks gotta be willing to listen with their hearts. Healing of old wounding ain't no easy job!!! Love their swag....BANGING‼️‼️💜🌈💯

[@magistushouse]

Oh you don't know how much this inspires me. The kind of love that I am praying for all my life. And I watch this right at the time where I need to hear their story. I am not there yet to experience their kind of love but I feel so blessed to listen to their wisdom. Thank you!❤

[@ricardobezerra2213]

Talk about having a really interesting, bright and shapeshifting life. For real, this was awesome to watch.

[@vetechgrl2000]

You ladies interview and talk to the best people. These two men are wonderful! I wish I was friends with them. It was do interesting to watch the vulnerability come put as the undressed and they seemed to relax more and were just so in eachothers company. And then Ooran smiled! I hope he knows how uplifting his smile is! His whole face lights up! And then towards the end Robert smiled. And again the room lit up. I love these two and wish them many more years of love and happiness!

[@gigidodson]

What a lovely couple. This is what love looks like. They are so sweet.

[@eleanorgarrett9770]

This is the most beautiful depiction of true love and partnership I have ever seen.

[@shariamour209]

I'm honored that you shared your beautiful love story and that had the opportunity to hear it.

[@ClayMastah344]

I really relate to the guy on the left, I understand the dynamic forced on him by his mom and his family. I went through the same thing and I’m glad he feels honest enough to say it out loud. Some people didn’t do their best. The scar that being left out of the unit from an early age leaves is deep and upsetting especially when you grow as a person but you feel you can’t drop your survival tactics

[@melissahernandez2586]

I ADORE them. I adore their energy. Such inspirational life stories. And Orren is so right about hand holding.

[@Bobbiii0.2]

The style, intelligence, the humour, the genuine care and emotion. What an amazing couple.

[@mightygoodmagic]

I ADORE them.... I wish Orren and Robert DID go out and that they'd come to my house and just hang out (no being anyone's show, but just amazing company of amazing Beings)... *sigh!* And to make this even more precious, they are complete Expanders for me about relationship. To see this kind of Love... this level of beauty from within and from connection.... ahhhhh... it's it beyond words such a deep nectar... Thank you all!!!!! xoxo!

[@msimms1917]

i'm just starting the interview, and i have to say their individual styles are immaculate! Just living, breathing art!! Wow. And the way they describe their relationship is so beautiful. i can't wait to finish the video and hear it all.

[@wyrdwitch13]

This was so incredibly sweet! Their frankness & depth of experience together was very insightful.

[@angelao.4676]

First to view this episode. I absolutely love your channel. Raw, authentic and life giving. The honesty of the soul and so grateful to be a witness to all these interviews. Inspiring….. Be well and safe 🙏🕯💝

[@ginamaria213]

This episode was absolutely wonderful. Thank you for sharing yourselves with the world.

[@paciencia-p]

Stunning. Stunning relationship, love and beauty. Simple

[@FairRozamund]

What a beautiful interview thank you. I love these long term couples, the depth of their love is so palpable

[@lisahowes2701]

This is literally the best interview i have ever seen. Simply wonderful, honest and open. They completely compliment eachother. I hope they have many more happy years together ❤

[@zazi9249]

I would listen to them for 3 hours, you could have extended this interview :)

[@StyleLikeU1]

There is an extended cut on our Patreon :))

[@enns5366]

They made me cry in the best way. They are the best couple. I've been with my partner over 20+ yrs and I relate to how they are so much. Thank you both for sharing and being so raw and honest. Love ❣️ Love Oren and Robert!

[@marciavaldez7767]

Way to go Rob and Orren. Thank you for sharing your selves, your story, and your love. I was in tears at the end. (In a good way.) Blessings.

[@ginanoel8594]

I worked at their salon in Santa Fe when I was a teenager! Fun to watch!

[@joannekerr3]

I wish I had the confidence to wear Orren's accessories! So love his style and too shy and embarrassed to wear things like that.

[@camaro8402]

I LOVED them! Orren has such a beautiful outlook.

[@lucillerenard9019]

Holy moly those tattoos! It was so much fun to see more of them as the video progressed, and the whole body "set" is just stunning

[@paulapurser]

Absolute loved this episode, what a great couple of people. Love that Robert mentions Orrens' vulnerability, I really felt the love they have for each other. Thanks for sharing, and much respect to you both. I cannot imagine the life you have lived, but I hope you're having a good one. ❤

[@JULIANLUCIA]

i love them and have tears. hope to cultivate such dedication to ones self and also to a partner like this.

[@Ronnahmetz]

I love the whole concept of this interview- the unveiling, the unshielding. Both humans are beautiful, distinct authentic pieces of art❤

[@dawndiezwillis]

The great beauty of this relationship and these humans! I feel good-weepy.

[@joyousenoful]

Beautiful couple. So much authentic love.

[@cherylarshaluys6079]

Love, love, love this beautiful couple. Orrin made me cry when he said that without his partner there is no Orrin. Uh, how romantic and deep. Poetry. ❤️

[@judylutz2693]

You're both so beautiful, you're both warriors, I feel real love for both of you. Bless you!

[@billyje4726]

Wow! I love how authentic, human, strong AND vulnerable you both are! Yes, authentic and truthful is the most important! 💜❤👌 Love it!

[@jbugross]

They are so incredible and beautiful ❤️ I hope they truly know what they add to the world, I absolutely fell in love with them!

[@nourishnaturalnutritionfor1412]

"It's brave to be yourself." 💗

[@Sonicman415]

Completely amazing. These gents are rad. I love them. I love the ink. I love how universal their relatability is as a couple. Hands! Hands are the best.

[@GiuliaManz]

Omg, I knew that this video would be awesome. They transmit such a good and calm energy, so much love, so much respect. Thank you for this video 💛

[@carabearaful]

This was wonderful. Wish it went on for two hours longer.

[@marylabelle803]

Awesome stuff! No disrespect intended ,im just realising myself ,both men have affected me and made me realise i should love myself first, and ive always felt upworthy of reciprocation .Also ive struggled ,still am,with addiction.i need to fix me heal my inner childs pain, and reassess whats so important! Thank you so much!I was thrown away at 7 years old from my bio mom and scorned from adopted mom but really she was a foster mom who had already returned one foster kid meant for adoption,but this aint anout me.Its about All of us who didnt receive love in the best wsy its meant from parents ,gaurdians, siblings ,extended family,they all matter seeing and hearing these men has made a powerful point ,Thank you for your interview ,I wish you both Happiness and Love !

[@friendoftherese1]

Oh Orren! When you said you didn't know where the checkbook was, I thought "That's me!" We've been together 40 years, and we definitely have our own duties in the marriage. Everything you two said resonated with me and our relationship. Well said and very articulate.

[@vivio2852]

Hallelujah, I hate “s/he the best they could” too. Not when you see them doing better to your sister or your brother.

[@skyethebard]

Yeah, I'm an okay parent but it's a mix of doing my best and falling down on the job. It's okay if my kids call me out on it. If they can't critique while growing up, they feel powerless. If they can't critique when they are adults, it will be harder to heal from any damage I have done.

[@pennymalcolm5029]

Love this couple! Genuine, and authentic!❤️

[@mswifeycatlady7583]

I am low key obsessed with this series 🤗 So brilliant, raw and beautiful💐💐

[@gia4564]

They rock this episode! Truly a couple that you will remember!

[@allinaflutter6117]

I love your channel. Thank you for helping others, by giving them an outlet to express themselves. This was so lovely to watch, so much love. I am probably a bit jaded when it comes to matters of the heart now Watching this 45 years in the making, love story helped me. Made me smile, that some people do stay loyal and put the effort into their relationships :)

[@LG-pv8se]

im digging this series so much.

[@adiat3002]

Wow thank you 🙏🏼 Roberts story of writing down his childhood I absolutely have to try this … and Orrens strength and boundaries .. This was my favorite one

[@goldengrace2833]

When I used to have Instagram I followed these wonderful men for their beautiful style! I'm thrilled to get to see and learn about them!

[@virgosmile]

Omgoodness please feature them again.... they have lived and loved through VOLUMES!!! BLESSINGS SENT~

[@erinblackirish]

I really love this. You can tell their love endures.

[@amymerrill1550]

These beautiful guys!! Love them so much. I feel so happy for them that they found each other and found healing in love and have continued loving each other for so long. I wish them a fulfilling, peaceful and dignified continuance of their life and love together.

[@cendthorgasm4936]

I’m in love with them! Such authenticity and uniqueness 💜💜😍

[@someonerandom6379]

Wow, what an incredible couple. I adore their style, they are stunningly beautiful

[@Eilasmin1]

Thank you for this! They are truly a breath of fresh air. There is so much love there, you can really feel it.

[@gracesimplified3860]

Beautiful🌸 This made me cry 😭 I admire their confidence, courage, and clarity.

[@seeingmine]

I think I waited on these two several years ago in philadelphia when i worked at a restaurant, and if i'm remembering them correctly they were very lovely and very kind to me

[@mimi1o8]

Thank you guys, I loved every minute of it. Great talk 🙂

[@marlenemcmillan8891]

I like these two..Their honesty and feelings are very meaningful..There's a time for everything..

[@rebecculousrk]

This couple is a national treasure! ❤ Edit: I'm totally captivated by the strip-poker, slow un-costuming. It feels like a visual representation of the interview, slowly revealing the human being underneath. I also like that that they attempt to convey the importance of marriage for queer couples, especially as we age and those rules and regulations that never mattered before suddenly actually impact our lives. Property, medical decisions, inheritance, etc...

[@lindsaybeamish3516]

I LOVED this. Heavenly. Wished it had gone on for hours and hours.

[@bitume]

Really enjoyed the unedited version of this one! Thank you

[@efonakir]

One of the best episodes! Oh my god I'm thrilled!!!!!

[@KRIS-gr5hn]

These two are so beautiful. I yearn for the love and respect they have for each other.

[@aallioops95]

Orren and Robert, you've moved me so much. Thank you for sharing your beauty, your stories, your strength. I aspire to find love like yours - in self and in a partner

[@gelyuk]

You guys really motivate me to feel and think more about a relationship. You both are damn good looking, I wish you stay as well as you are right now and inspire people to be their authentic selves ❤️

[@octoberrosesaxon8818]

One of my dreams/goal is to be as authentic and inspirational as these people. Thank you 💗💗💗💗💗💗

[@mistermossman6074]

Orren reminds me of my grandma, the way he sits, the way he talks, his fashion sense. Even Robert with his manorisms, when he rolled his eyes, pure grandma Debbie

[@deborahedelman2659]

Love love these guys and their relationship...thanks for sharing!!!

[@cheftornado1114]

Awww….I think we can ALL hope for a love like this. I know we all deserve it! Cheers babes, y’all are adorable!

[@staceysargison]

Absolutely adored this episode. Such love, beauty & vulnerability. I’ve only just discovered / stumbled upon your channel. So refreshing from all the other content on KZbin. Bravo! ❤👏

[@rainjstorm]

man. I need a love like the love they have.

[@danceoftheMystic]

This was one of my favorite!! What truth they speak ?!

[@amyshea3729]

I love these two men, and though I have known them for years hearing them talk about their life was so lovely. May you both run on and on and on...

[@electricmom9389]

Brava and bravo! Best thing I’ve seen in a long time! Thank you! Love your authentic selves 💜

[@evabelt2646]

LOVE these Amazing Men!!!! Beautiful Souls!!!! Orin and Robert are AWESOME!!!!

[@ЕвгенияРоманова-э9п5щ]

Such a wonderful and honest couple

[@Miss_SkiPp_8812]

I don't know if anyone noticed this and has said so already or not, and to be honest - I don't want to scroll and try to find out either lol- it's one of those kinda days But that being said - THESE TWO. Truly they are so special. So special. You can see that while no oren doesn't like tattoos, he's still got circles and balances and almost pieces of rob with him in his clothes, his jewelry, his armor, so to speak are his way of having that expression while robs is more in the view of actual body decor. It's a kind of beauty you almost never see where there is so much balance, wether intentional or not - they mesh within each other, and into each in such a peaceful free flowing way it's beautiful to see.

[@ninasoloff]

Thank you for sharing your beautiful relationship with us. It is so inspiring to see that you have gone through so much and emerged from that so strong and so authentically yourself! I’m so glad you found each other. ❤️