SU&SD Play Frosthaven with Isaac Childres

[@Pb2plus]

My thoughts: "Oh Frosthaven this should be like Gloomhaven but all in Ice" First Quest: "A Town in flames" Me * visible confusion *

[@DragoonBoom]

It's like the hero's journey, where things start off as peaceful as possible before things get dangerous. Except it's frosthaven so it's gonna start off very hot instead.

[@indieman678]

Gloomhaven 3: FLAMEHAVEN

[@ChazAllenUK]

@@indieman678 Flamehaven intro: "A town covered in ice..."

[@Duxa_]

@@indieman678 Waterhaven, Earthhaven, Seahaven, Airhaven

[@MotiviqueStudio]

I'm still waiting for their creation of a multiverse - Havenhaven.

[@ronnymueller1918]

This is THE Isaac Childress playing? Wow, so cool! Also nice to see him involve in tts, they did such a great Port there.

[@RageBadgerGaming]

We had loads of fun with our playthrough on our channel of this scenario! Kinda kicked the thing that led to us playing through more of the scenarios with Marcel and company. It's been a blast! That second room can be a nasty one, although with your draws... that first room ended up being nasty too!

[@momzwrite]

When the game designer says it's ok to fudge it, that makes me feel better

[@kyriebrunton4504]

Sweet! I wasn't expecting this video!

[@donskuzz]

The turn at 1:40:00 was such a beautiful Unbreakable Will turn. Would've had an attack 4 Push on both guards (even before seeing the guard ability card drawn). And with that Ability card that they had would've been even more perfect for the follow up turn where you could Set for the Charge to finish them off.

[@linforcer]

Originally I worried we would never finish Gloomhaven, but thanks to the covvies we are running out of quests (and going through the expansion now)

[@triplel3910]

I sympathize Matt. I keep hitting road blocks in TTS. Everything takes longer initially. Frosthaven looks interesting

[@fibonachos4810]

But when you get a hang of it, it is so much faster. The shuffeling alone is a nightmare. And keeping track of health too. You cant put stickers on maps but i think tts makes most of the Games faster

[@greenspartan1213]

I miss weekly Gloomhaven games

[@bbedeschi]

Will it be balanced for single and double characters or just for the minimum of three and up just like gloomhaven?

[@Broockle]

is this mod still being worked on? I grew accustomed to a lot of the features of the GH one which this one doesn't seem to have. All the character envelopes are out in the open right away and all of the spoil them class names. And the map doesn't function like it does in GH. I also notice there is no store anymore? Instead there's all these ingredients which I assume are part of an elaborate crafting system? I haven't looked into that yet. EDIT: And ofcourse I only just realised FH ain't even out yet ;D How was all this stuff figured out already lol. Was the map, the regents and the classes really leaked already?

[@footysurfrat]

Your cut aways made me think of Spaced! That can only be a good thing

[@frankharr9466]

That was fun. The 'Haven games do seem to have a rather desperate feel of attrition to them.

[@timothyhale5181]

In all fairness, the Molotov Cocktail was invented by the Finns when they were defending themselves against Soviet invasion during the Winter War, so it is arguably a good-guy weapon...

[@DrMcFly28]

Matt... please start using the camera positions. I'm loving this but the camera movement is giving me whiplash. :)

[@aalever]

Be cool if the summons somehow got stronger throughout the game (either through better summon cards or through some other scaling)

[@MattiaPiola]

Woooow! Can't wait!

[@DoblyTufnell]

Is Frosthaven a computer based game like in this video? I thought it was a boardgame. Or is it both? Now I am confused.

[@candymandan]

It's a board game, this is just a version of it on TableTop Simulator, as the physical copy isn't out yet.

[@1974greymalkin]

Ive barely even scratched the surface of Gloomhaven, Yet here I am, backing at $270...

[@---el6pq]

I backed this and can’t wait!

[@DeePsix501]

Awesome! When can we see Frosthaven with Isaac Hayes, or Isaac son of Jacob?

[@TheNerdShelves]

While I appreciate the flexibility and amount of options on TTS, I much prefer more scripted online board game platforms... But maybe that's also just my old man brain... I'm with you Matt 😆

[@melequin]

Hugh is a legend

[@danyjacco4853]

Oh man! I HATE Table Top Simulator 🤣🤣

[@apachence]

Man...I wish they spent like 20 more minutes with the TTS mod before they started filming.

[@clementhossaert5234]

It feels like Table Top Simulator would work best with a virtual reality setup, that allows you to interact and check the board in a virtual space. I can imagine it is almost like playing the game with a real board. But with a conventional desktop, it felt really tedious for your guys, especially considering how wild and filled with mechanics and pieces Gloomhaven and Frosthaven are

[@jacobstacey6550]

I actually have found that it is extremely streamlined and easy, compared to managing everything yourself. I honestly prefer it over Gloomhaven Helper. The main downside is not having a big board in front of you that you and your friends are crowded around.

[@mglobemaster2904]

You actually can do TTS in VR, it's 100% integrated.

[@daanarents6375]

question: as someone who doesnt want to get super spoilered for the game: should i watch this?

[@Hahahahaaahaahaa]

daan Arents depends what you consider spoilers. They don't get very far, and it's mostly combat, but if you literally don't want to know anything before playing yourself then obviously skip this one!

[@anti-gravityseal7162]

I think it’d only spoil that which you’d find out in the first encounter.

[@NovaGirl8]

Am actually contemplating about this because of the steep price and equally steep shipping.

[@daanarents6375]

I think you can back it for 1 dollar, then get access to a pledge manager for a month or so. I think the kickstarter is ending very soon

[@MichaelNerman]

Sadly, I was already thinking TTS looked difficult and fiddly to use, and this video is confirming that, at least for something as big as Gloom/Frosthaven.

[@Songofwyrd]

So much of the Gloomhaven mod that they are using is scripted that after a session or two, you'll likely be playing far faster than the physical on account of it handling a lot of the heavy lifting. We managed an entire scenario in an hour last night.

[@MichaelNerman]

@@Songofwyrd Hmmm. Maybe I'll watch another video of people using it.

[@lizard455]

@@MichaelNerman The Gloomhaven TTS setup I played on had buttons that would instantly assemble scenarios and place monsters (taking into account the number of players too), and had other very helpful features like health bars over enemy tokens that can also show status effects so you don't have to look at their stat card to see how much damage enemy #2 of that type has taken or what statuses they had. Also shuffling is just a press of a button and you can copy/paste components instead of going digging for them. TTS can take a session or two to get a grasp of the controls but once you do there are a lot of things that can be streamlined over physical versions. (For instance, I saw a Codenames table where the cards had colored outlines only the callers could see so they didn't have to consult a separate diagram.)

[@vulcan734]

isnt there a version of gloomhaven without scripting? id at least prefer that, since it plays more like an actual board game

[@MrTeucro99]

Well theirs gloomhaven digital in early acces, but currently theirs no campaing or multiplayer yet, it will come probably at the end of the year. Been playing a lot of it tho, the game handles all the upkeep wich is really nice, makes it run it really fast, also models look quite nice.

[@razomax2724]

Gloom or frost haven is the king of kings board games

[@sentientvcr346]

The baled of an old man using TTS

[@spacemandan5906]

GAMEplay plz

[@timu.6452]

I added a public comment.

[@elizabethlestrad5282]

I picked up the first game after hearing all the hype. Sure it had a grand campaign and lots of sparkly bits, but I could never get past the fact you couldn’t just pick a character and play them all the way through. That was a major enjoyment killer for me. When I play a dungeon crawler, I want to feel invested in the character. Something I’m not going to feel when I’m constantly having to “retire” them or otherwise be forced into playing one that doesn’t match my play-style or don’t find interesting. This just looks like more of the same.

[@EclecticMystic]

I mean, if that was your criteria for fun in a dungeon crawler, then that's kinda on you for not looking into what this game is/isn't. It's clearly a tabletop RPG simulator mixed with the old hero quest. It's not a D&D campaign in a box, what made you think that was so?

[@michaelrichard1320]

When you realize how fun and addicting it is to learn, build, and master new characters you can't wait to retire a character to move onto a new one. It's literally the cycle of the game. No point playing a character that can no longer grow and improve.

[@1974greymalkin]

As far as how I play: There is nothing stopping you from choosing a character after retiring. A new character unlock does not force you to play that character. Ive always played it, a new character unlock is added to the stable of characters to choose from when you retire. You are not forced to take a character you dont want to play. If your mindthief retired, you can choose to play another mindthief if you really wanted to. Not sure why you would do that.

[@Maw0822]

When you bought Gloomhaven you bought a bunch of card board and plastic. You can do whatever the hell you want with that cardboard and plastic. If you don't like the retirement rule then just ignore it. The Gloomhaven police isn't going to come kicking down your door. I never understand why people let something like that be "a major enjoyment killer".

[@Nildread]

You could also simply not care. if unlocking characters isn't fun for you, you can spoil yourself and open everything and pick the one you think you'll like the most, it won't do anything to the balance of the game. Kind of defeats a large part of the game though.

[@peterfiser]

Cursed stream.

[@zcurtin608]

Third!

[@candymandan]

Oh no, I was really hoping they'd rework the map tiles. They're an absolute nightmare to organize and keep tidy with all their different shapes.

[@Dullahan3470]

Maybe there will be an option or buy a booklet like Jaws of the Lion

[@PurpleTrapezoidProds]

One $5 accordion file book solves it easily and simply