Sub 12 FX Impact M3 Quick tune install.

[@darrenrichardson6803]

I get the impression your from the same era in life as me when you mentioned rapid 7 , your like a modern day Kev G keep up the good work.

[@sub12airgunners]

sounds like it 😁 that was the gun in my day but nobody could afford them 😂 thanks for watching

[@philbate5555]

Perfect upgrade for the M3 jake, thanks for all you're hard work with the videos mate.

[@sub12airgunners]

Glad you like them! Thanks Phil. Thanks for watching.

[@fredcroft3293]

Absolutely love your videos so informative keep them coming , a quick note on the adjuster I have found these on bagnal Mirkwood’s site but no locking ring !! I presume this is to keep the authorities happy as the adjuster then becomes non adjustable

[@colinmartin2974]

Excellent vidéo, I'd been given the impression the micro ajuster did just that, give tiny adjustments, and the bigger rotary wheel did the main ajusments.. Now I can see its actual function and how the smaller thumbwheel is the real power ajuster. Thank-you for the clarification on its correct function and how to do this modification if required.

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks for watching 😁

[@rhodyate]

Really nice, I've just ordered 720 plenum and quick tune kit, thanks to you

[@andrewmorrissey2423]

Thanks for the video just ordered the set as you recommended from Bagnall & Kirkwood. Great service used the video to fit and it was so easy. Thank you for the help.

[@jaytee8188]

Great vid Jeff. And I agree the 720 plenum does improve the look on sub 12, need to find some plugs. 👍

[@adrianthomas8453]

Thanks for all your videos, wish it was about 5 months ago when I fitted my QT assembly would have saved me some fiddling. confused by you mentioning a ball bearing under D65 to fix X3-1 there was not one in my parts list/diags just the Dog point grub screw M3x5. Also secured mine by removing the thumbwheel grubscrew, after adjustment, instead of a locking collar.

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, looked again on the FX parts diagram you are right I couldn't zoom in on the mobile and saw D66, I though at the time a ball bearing was a poor choice, but good catch, I was going to remove the grub screw on the thumb wheel but if you need a half rotation its a bit of a pain to get to the grub screw, but thanks for watching.

[@baghdadmerc69]

Same, think the extra bearing is just a spare, I'd ordered the QT pieces a while back and was waiting on this vid but didn't realise the spring and bearing were needed as not on the QT section received them this morning, hopefully I'll get a lock of you when ready should receive that manometer bracket of you this week too, think all I'm waiting on is the valve knob with grub screws and the harmonic tuner, These vids are very much appreciated and your innovative products, top job cheers 👍

[@gallantone1535]

As usual a very good video manufacturers hopefully watch your videos hopefully it will help them improve 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, it would of been nice for FX to make an integral one connected to the spring shuttle, not only useful for sub 12 then a FAC user could lock the power so its not knocked accidentally in the field. Thanks for watching.

[@jerryhettrick3134]

Hi, nice video. On my M3, the valve spring shuttle has a short threaded rod going through it that blocks access to the removal screw. The threaded rod protrudes out of the rear of the shuttle. Have you seen tbat before.

[@waxie1969]

Hi Jeff.. Just installed the quick tune kit on my new M3 followed your vid step by step and it doesn't make any difference to power out put? Gun out the box was firing about 750fps with 8.44 which i thought was quite low for the impact.. after the QT install max i can get is 705fps not sure whats happened so any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏

[@kevinday5939]

Brilliant video. How easy is it to remove the allen screw. Is it prone to shearing off?

[@TekerzDesign]

Is the power adjustable through the Allen key screw on the Sub 12ft/lb model? The Quick Tune just makes it easier and simpler to adjust?

[@waylandr1198]

Hi brilliant videos! Very interested in your barrel mod ideas. You say you used a small butane pen blow torch on the bolt for the hammer adjuster? Does this not damage the coating? I briefly applied heat in this way, but I see that the coating starts to sweat. A brief heads up would be greatly appreciated, I don't really want to ruin my new shiny toy! Thanks.

[@harryarteza3435]

How did you solve? Hairdryer ? Thanks !

[@Not_Evil_]

Did I understood it correctly, that these quick tune system is just a cherry on top of tuning the power to get some extra?

[@yogy8425]

Great videos. Would this work in the m4 and where can I buy the locking ring from? Keep up the great work

[@sub12airgunners]

yes they will work on the M4 and we will be doing more soon 😁

[@Sae-fu5ch]

lovely work guys and genius the lock love it👍

[@sub12airgunners]

no problem, thanks for watching.

[@carlfoley6242]

Really great video keep up the great work. I have just fitted the macro adjuster and valve adjuster after watching. Could you tell me what your valve adjuster is set to as to get 790 fps Iv got my micro set on 16 macro just under 4 and the valve adjuster on 4 1/2 first reg factory set 2nd reg 70 bar Am I doing something wrong Carl

[@martinshome6367]

Hi, I just fitted a 720 plenum but it’s leaking air from the 2nd reg or something not sealing. Any advice

[@Pauldwesley]

Love the video, you say that you rarely find you need to adjust the micro adjuster above 2 on a sub 12 but mine is set to just over 4. I’m getting 11.5ft/lbs with qys 9.56 streamlined. Have I missed something.? Or all guns different? Appreciate your advice.

[@sub12airgunners]

most will vary a little but ours will be different as we have some different internal parts😀

[@Bad-Alias]

mine is the same, just over the 4 with the qys

[@wayneosullivan1549]

Hi jake I’ve just got a FX mk 11 nice gun the only thing I am having trouble with is the barrel one week it shoots bri and the next it all over the place any advice

[@stevesracingbits]

My m3 is the same it's only a week old and it shocking somtimes

[@stevesracingbits]

My power wheel is just over 3 from the factory does that sound correct

[@baghdadmerc69]

As per, great info and knowledge, will you be doing the lock pieces👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Yep coming to ebay this week. Thanks for watching.

[@mikechaplin5103]

Always a pleasure watching your channel. I am going to order the tuning kit, are you able to supply the small lock or is it something that can be turned up on a lathe. I do not have facilities to mill.

[@sub12airgunners]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374478024481 there you go 😁

[@Pauldwesley]

Have you got anymore of the little locks?

[@ramontorras-fb2ur]

Hola. Acabo de suscribirme en tu canal. Para empezar, muchas gracias por tus videos. Estoy en España y poseo tambien un FX M3. La limitación en mi pais es de 24 J. Cuando lo adquirí en la tienda me instalaron la rueda del micro y la valvula. Yo quiero respetar los 24 J. y no quiero pasarme de los 24J. Mi pregunta es; Si subo al máximo la rueda del micro y abro la valvula tendré más julios? Quiero ir por la ley y con 24 J. dan para mucho. Muchas gracias y recibe un cordial saludo desde España.

[@ramontorras-fb2ur]

Por que imagino que el puerto de transferencia tendrá el agujero del paso del aire más pequeño, no?

[@jamesbeeney9084]

what calibre is your rifle? My settings are above yours in .177 ?

[@alib5069]

Hi, great video as are all of yours. Where can i get the ‘locking off’ part? Thanks

[@gregling8278]

Good question! Where’s the answer?

[@Bad-Alias]

do you need to change to the 720 plenum when fitting the quick tune on a sub 12lbft, or would the standard one work fine please?

[@sub12airgunners]

the standard one is fine with the quick tune for sub 12 lbft

[@mfletch392]

Thanks for your time and knowledge good video, one question would this be legal as a sub 12 for a none licence older like if the police checked the rifle

[@sub12airgunners]

The way we see it, the rifle needs an Allen key to adjust the power at the moment (without the quick tune fitted), that seems fine as they are sold without issue, when fitting the quick tune wheel it does away with the need for the Allen key, this is a no no as its classed as easily adjustable. The purpose of the lock is so you can't adjust the power without the use of an Allen key, just like the original system, since the rifle can't be adjusted without the use of additional tools its not classed as easily adjustable and falls under the same category as the original system. Thanks for watching

[@mfletch392]

@@sub12airgunners Many thanks for the reply please keep up the good videos well done my friend!

[@le3045acp]

when are you going to show how to make the barrel tuner like the factory fx one?

[@sub12airgunners]

I made one and tried it but I could not get it to change the groups at all they changed position a little but they never changed in size, it just moved the group around, I am waiting to get my hands on a proper one to have a look to see if that one works or just does the same thing, but they have been out of stock for ages now. Thanks for watching.

[@le3045acp]

@@sub12airgunners i would be willing to bet they will have a better effect on the fac models like we have in America because the sub12 rifles are in a fairly gentle harmony to begin with

[@steveguest8028]

So does the power adjuster actually adjust the power on a 12ft/lb model and if so what would the difference be between setting 1 and setting 16 ? …. Great video btw 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

yes the power wheel works it depends on the setup but my one on 16 is about 11.4 lbft and on 1 it 9.4 lbft

[@steveguest8028]

@@sub12airgunners Thank you

[@simonbecheley6475]

Are you likely to do a front valve adjustment conversion aswell, with a mechanical lock of course

[@sub12airgunners]

The new one comes with 3 grub screws in so it already has a mechanical lock built in, they did it to stop the valve adjuster unscrewing when fired, but we have on on our rifle no problem. Thanks for watching.

[@lassesarnhult9283]

Your videos is so good that even an old fart as me can understand them lol. A question at what distance do you think is the best to zero in the scope on a sub 12 ? I fot my self an Element Titan to my new Impact M3 bought thanks to your tip to go for that instead of Maveric

[@sub12airgunners]

Good to hear, I always zero at the distance I am shooting for bench shooting but for field work I zero at 25 - 30 yards. But its personal choice some zero at 40 yards as you get a second zero at around 10 yards, depending on scope height and pellet choice obviously. Thanks for watching. .

[@danpearce5192]

Man your making me want to buy a M3 now 🙈

[@sub12airgunners]

DO IT ! Thanks for watching. 👍

[@vincechambersfreepestcontr2618]

Hi mate I ve been watching your videos I've ordered a quick tune kit like this I saw on one of your videos you fitted the valve adjuster I ordered the valve adjuster knob but what else do I need to purchase

[@jacksambuster]

Hi, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I had an issue fitting this straight off. The adjustment guide shuttle screw was ridiculously tight and even though using top quality Wera tool it rounded the screw head. I’ve returned the gun to sportsman gun who are sorting it for me. Only just got the M3 so didn’t want to try a screw extraction. Any advice when a small screw is so incredible locked tight?

[@sub12airgunners]

Unfortunately the screw is covered in loctite so the only way to break it is to heat the piece up, this breaks the loctite and allows the removal of the screw, Thanks for watching.

[@jacksambuster]

@@sub12airgunners thanks for the reply. I must say I’m very impressed with Sportsman gun. They drilled out the rounded shuttle screw, supplied a new screw and shuttle guide and got the gun back to me within the week. Complete with a detailed letter explaining what was done, with part numbers. All done under warranty. Great customer service. It’s now so much easier to fine tune for safe tuning within 12 ftlb.

[@stevel7865]

May I ask, there is a 720 plenum and knurled tuning knob at the front under the barrel so is this a Sub 12 or FAC?

[@sub12airgunners]

this is a sub 12 it has all the bit's on so looks like the fac 😀

[@stevel7865]

@@sub12airgunners Thank you, That clears that up, I only asked as My son owns the M3 and, I too have become rather smitten with the unit over my .22lr 1417.

[@TurkishTinkerer]

My hammer spring shuttle stripped straight away. Literally on one turn.

[@marktemple9315]

Hi Jeff Can I ask how you managed to get your angled reg gauge in correct alignment as when I fit mine it’s not aligned as the thread seems too long? Appreciate your help!

[@sub12airgunners]

it drives me mad when the gauge is not timed, so we turn the gauge down or make spacers for them👍

[@marktemple9315]

Could I perhaps purchase some of those spacers Jeff?

[@k4391]

How can I get a couple of your lock rings for the quick tune in the United States? Thanks

[@sub12airgunners]

we supply them to Bagnall & Kirkwood 👍

[@carlcrathorne7298]

We’re can I buy these parts please

[@phillip23451]

Can I just ask if this is sub 12 how come.its got the power plenum on it?, or am I issuing something

[@sub12airgunners]

this is sub 12 we fitted all the hp bits to make it look like the 700mm sniper but they are all locked off or restricted to keep it under 12lbft with everything turned up to max it will only achieve about 11.8 with jsb 10.34

[@leightucker1842]

Thanks for the great video I got a kit from kirkwood but when i went to fit it I could not undo the block screw even with heat. I ended up putting the rod on the lathe and cutting the end the same as the grub screw ot replaces. It then will go in without having to take the block off. Might help someone.

[@sub12airgunners]

nice one 😀

[@leightucker1842]

​@sub12airgunners I am thinking of fitting the valve adjuster like you have would you say that it's handy to have on a sub 12? Have you done a video on it?

[@GStone-jl1ov]

Do they do them for dremline compact lite

[@tonyrebelo3038]

Awesome work as always Jake 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you! Cheers Tony. Thanks for watching.

[@yuqinanda9087]

Hello my friend. thank you very useful 👍🙂

[@sub12airgunners]

No problem. Thanks for watching.

[@iantcroft]

That little lock is good for the adjuster. Once you’ve set the rifle up at it’s most efficient and best fps lock it up so you can’t inadvertently adjust by accident. Few questions for you being highly experienced with these (and other) pcp’s. 1. And this is the big question! What’s your most accurate rifle and what grouping are you getting at what distances? 2. For further distance shooting do you dial up to aim straight at or do you hold over/use dots? 3. What’s your favourite scope and why? Was testing a .22LR today in the wind at 130 yards, was holding off 1.25 mil dot for wind (10x zoom) and 4 mil dots over and was getting a golf ball sized group with 5 bullets. I thought that was pretty decent in that wind.

[@sub12airgunners]

Most of my shooting is done at 50 yards and my most accurate rifle is the .177 Redwolf, best ever 5 shot group with it was 6.25mm edge to edge at 50 yards (indoors), that was with sorted pellets though, but it will do consistently good groups. I only really shoot at longer distances in the summer when we can use the outdoor range (70 yards) and I normally just zero at 50 yards and hold over, my favorite scope that I own is the element Titan, but my favorite scope I have looked through would be the Zeiss V8 4.8-35, a dream scope but so clear and bright. Doing well for a .22lr in wind, I have had a go with .22lr but never at long ranges, maybe if I go for my FAC ill give it a go. Thanks for watching.

[@iantcroft]

@@sub12airgunners That’s an impressive group at 50yds with a sub12 rifle! I’ve not tried an indoor range for a while, I used to work at an airgun centre which had one years ago. Interesting to hear the Titan is a favourite, is it the clarity, reticle of build quality? Is if 24x mag? I saw you had a built in camera scope (not sure of the name!) my father has the fac but I have been using it with him since I was about 14, over 28 years ago now and I have just got my own fac so looking at which pcp scope and mod to get. I think I’m not too far from you if you need some longer distance outdoor testing in the breeze, will have the .22lr and also pcp (when I’ve decided which one) to try as well.

[@SnapshotJH]

Having bought a kit from B&K plus one of your locks, I tried to fit it today and failed. My hammer-spring shuttle doesn't have a visible retaining screw and has a short threaded shaft through it. Do you think this is enhanced anti-tamper?

[@sub12airgunners]

The short threaded rod is the hammer spring adjuster screw, you need to remove that and there should be a screw under it, that's what locks the shuttle to the adjuster, remove those bits then you can just follow the video to reinstall it. Thanks for watching

[@SnapshotJH]

@@sub12airgunners Ah, that's the part you removed in advance to save time. I can see why as it's a nasty fiddly job to get it out. All went well after that (pending a chrono test) so thanks for your help and the video.

[@sub12airgunners]

@@SnapshotJH No problem, Thanks for watching

[@MattF12765]

Great video. Do you offer a tuning service?

[@sub12airgunners]

No sorry, we cant take in other peoples rifles. Thanks for watching

[@philnixon7168]

Would you be interested in making a “mock” plenum kit for the mk2 ? And selling it as a kit

[@gregs9218]

Super stuff Jeff.

[@Vans1066]

Excellent video FX should have put this on uk sub12 anyway. You Listening Fx don’t make us pay for what should be on the rifle anyway or just put the parts In the case

[@That_Ultra_Guy]

Can't fine this kit on thier site :(

[@Chunkythefatfisherman]

I'm probably missing the point here. I am very interested in fitting this to my Mk3, but how do I stand legally, as mine is sub 12, as this gives you the ability to potentially push you over 12, does fitting it make the gun FAC by default??? I just don't want to fall foul of the law, especially the way things are at the moment in the shooting community. Great videos BTW.

[@sub12airgunners]

The idea of this is that the hammer spring is adjusted but an Allen key at the moment and that's fine because technically its not easily adjustable because it requires the use of additional tools, however its fiddly and a little awkward to do, the thumb adjuster is much easier to use and more convenient, but because it does not require any additional tools to adjust its considered easily adjustable over 12lb/ft, this is where the lock comes in, the lock still requires an additional tool to unlock the hammer spring adjuster, so you gain the adjust ability of the thumb wheel whilst still being able to lock the power off so you can't adjust it without additional tools. You can unlock the thumb wheel adjust your hammer spring to where you want it (

[@thaireesj41]

Great video. Do you know if this is available for the mk2? Thanks.

[@adrianthomas8453]

No not on a Mk1or Mk2 as the existing slot/channel is much shorter than on the M3 - not 'as is' anyway

[@sub12airgunners]

unfortunately not, as Adrian Thomas pointed out the channel is shorter and the block lacks the required drilling's for the spring and grub screws. Thanks for watching.

[@rhodyate]

Hi there, how do you plug up the 720 plenum to reduce the volume on the fx impact m3.

[@sub12airgunners]

We make a Delrin insert to go in the plenum that takes up space and reduces the plenum volume. Thanks for watching.

[@rhodyate]

@@sub12airgunners thanks for your reply, will you sell them on your eBay site, I've got the quick tune lock from your eBay site.

[@stevesracingbits]

​@@sub12airgunnersdo you sell this delrin insert as I would like to put a 720 on mine thank you

[@Juniantobaka1]

I love fx impact

[@sub12airgunners]

Its a great rifle for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@Juniantobaka1]

@@sub12airgunners 👍👍

[@Hutchy46]

Hi Where do you get the adjuster lock from?

[@sub12airgunners]

They are on Ebay, link below. Thanks for watching. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373869339105?hash=item570c5961e1:g:Ch4AAOSwnF9hk51N

[@afridihunter]

I love fx impact m3 but no meny big fan from pakistan

[@chrisrobinson7395]

How do you remove the loctite? I’ve just spent £60 on the kit to find out mine is glued in 😂

[@sub12airgunners]

Some have to be heated up, I use a mini blow torch the pen type ones, get it nice and hot then undo the screw. Thanks for watching.

[@stevesracingbits]

Or use a soldering iron this also works

[@jamesbeeney9084]

Anyone have a link to the bits req for the Valve adjuster?

[@Cannon3368]

would you be putting the lock up for sale

[@sub12airgunners]

Coming to Ebay this week. Thanks for watching.

[@GeKo1966]

Always a pleasure watching these vids of yours Jeff....and you make it look so easy.... 😅Anyhow, Have you been considering perhaps creating a fine tuning system for the MK II? If there is anybody that could do it, it would be you! and I would sign up for a final release of course! would be nice getting rid of the allen key to fine tune the MK II. 👌🏻🙏🏻

[@sub12airgunners]

Unfortunately without milling the block is not possible, we did have a look but honestly its more work then its worth, we did experiment with a captive nut in the hammer spring adjuster so you could turn the nut and adjust the hammer spring without an Allen key but it was just as fiddly and looked a bit naff. Thanks for watching

[@GeKo1966]

@@sub12airgunners Thanks for the quick reply Jeff. Well knew you would try something, to bad they(FX) did not construct it so, that it would be backwards compatible, at least for the MK II.

[@davidlodge4305]

Is there any other way I can Contact you about my FX

[@samtucker615]

Do you have the plenum fitting vid and valve vid?

[@sub12airgunners]

The valve is a straight swap, I do have a vid on how to remove the AT in my M3 disassembly vid, I don't have plenum fitting video but Airbuks has a good one if you are looking for one. Thanks for watching.

[@samtucker615]

@@sub12airgunners cheers 👍

[@leepearson4400]

how could you have plenum on sub12 can I ask

[@sub12airgunners]

Its just the 720 plenum from the FAC rifles fitted to a sub 12, we had to plug it up to reduce the volume, it was done more for the looks then functionality. Thanks for watching.

[@leepearson4400]

@Sub12 Airgunners I understand thank you. I got mk3 in 1.77

[@bluewalker224]

@@sub12airgunners so it doesn't actually affect the rifles power? I understand we're pushing legal boundaries with this but what the hell do i gave to do to exceed the sub 12 power on my new mk3? Help lol

[@stevesracingbits]

​@@bluewalker224why would you want to ilegally increase the power of a sub 12ft rifle, just buy an fac legally if that's what you want to do

[@salahbahzad5512]

What is your ebay user. So we can check your products . Thanks

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks for watching: www.ebay.co.uk/sch/geoffeve-7/m.html?item=373919656071&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2562

[@seyhmusaltunsoz3675]

👍

[@sub12airgunners]

👍 Thanks for watching.

[@hawkslayers1]

top man

[@sub12airgunners]

No problem, Thanks for watching

[@lisawood516]

👌👌👍👍👍👍

[@sub12airgunners]

👍 Thanks for watching

[@jeffhello1444]

👌👍👏