Subaru BRZ RAIU VS Toyota 86 TRD - The FINAL Editions

Is this the final and last edition of the Subaru BRZ and Toyota 86? We test both the 2019 Subaru BRZ Raiu Edition and 2019 Toyota 86 TRD Edition to see the differences and which one is the better purchase.
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[@speedacademy]

Which car would you chose for your Daily Driver/Track Toy? Subaru BRZ Raiu or Toyota 86 TRD

[@krcmy-krczmy-ch.3538]

Speed Academy it is funny to say but normal 86 would win but from yours video probably BRZ Raiu would be my pick.

[@therealboofighter]

I like the TRD better, did you think about swapping the tires on the cars for a test?

[@mrphiscal]

The first one that offered 200 wheel hp.

[@richardunderwood950]

I’d go with the brz

[@claudemartin7785]

Base 370z, cost less MSRP, more analog feel (hydraulic power steering), more power.. Rarer.

[@ashyxt]

I wish I can own one in 5 years time... I'll look back at this comment 5 years later

[@Boogsbunny13]

I'm rooting for you friend! I too want a brz or 86. Keep grinding! You'll get there just don't give up!

[@BRZFA24]

I’m also rooting for you, I’m saving up for the BRZ to hopefully get it when the new generation comes. 😉😉

[@sandblaster007]

5 years ago when the twins came out I wanted one really bad. Now this year I finally got one and couldn't be happier. Rooting for you!

[@_carlosamontoya_]

I fell in love when they came out in 2012, and then 5 years later I bought the 86. Keep working and you'll get the things you want.

[@Mango-Guns]

I told my self that 5 years ago and i bought one 3 weeks ago.

[@theo.k]

Excellent review. Thank you. I honestly don't understand all the internet hate for the 86/BRZ. It is one of the last true analog sports cars (like the Miata). I know for a fact that just adding power or grip does not make this a better car. Yet, 'car enthusiasts' who probably never owned or tracked a car in their life seem to focus on the lack of power, no turbo, Prius tires etc...It's such a shame because not appreciating what Toyota/Subaru has tried to offer here could ultimately mean the demise of these affordable fun little niche cars. Luckily Toyota/Subaru have decided to continue the line by developing a new version (2021?). I hope they don't stray too far from the original.

[@sheasamuels9320]

Theo K. Well said.

[@tommieboi707]

Thats because most people only know how to drive fast in a straight line.

[@alwintheskateboarder]

Big facts If this was released on the late 90s early 00s no one would bat an eye on its figures Every "car guy" wanted a cheap back to basics sports car and Toyota/Subaru delivered. Everyone's just so obsessed with power now they forget about its chassis capabilities

[@willmoua1]

So very true! My 99 civic is very unassuming, (full interior, ac, ps, pw, cruise control) yet it can keep up and surpass focus rs', new civic type r, evox, etc on track. Tuned and driven correctly, an analog type of car is ecstasy!

[@MyGoToUserName]

I doubt they will deviate far from from the first gen car. I imagine it will be similar to the 2019 MX5. A FA20 or variation with revised powerband. More mid range torque would fix the complains of power where people would use it around town.

[@garagecedric]

That session in the BRZ just looked like so much fun. Exactly like i want my cars, playful, and great balance.

[@shazmaster]

It would've been cool if u swapped tires for the sake of it

[@kaiglembocki]

Shazy this gas 86 likes so I don’t want to like this comment

[@toyotabrony]

Shazy nah. It looks good like that

[@golding69]

for sure. my 2020 BRZ ts (in SoCal) came with those amazing Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires.

[@sammyzaynk2388]

It would be harder for 86 lol

[@StrongerThanEver84]

I kinda miss my FRS. Had one for 3 years. I beat the shit out of it and it never gave me a problem. It was a fun little car to drive.

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

Had my base stock brz for a year and it's really hard to not beat on it hajat

[@125jsr]

What’d you get rid of it for?

[@maryramirez1260]

Me too 🤣

[@tendency82]

Gotta say, I really like your videos. You just get straight to the point and doesn't add annoying LOUD music (even your intro volume is leveled right and is not too long). And you both , Peter and Dave, is interesting to listen to.

[@Genevagirls-h2x]

Finally someone who agrees with me on the fact that it has an appropriate amount of power!

[@jponz85]

Power is lacking, any other reviewer will tell you that. Now if they had put that turbo like they have in their wrx or sti then this thing would be a killer

[@Genevagirls-h2x]

@@jponz85 ok man. Thanks for letting me know!!!

[@jponz85]

@@Genevagirls-h2x 👍👍

[@WhirlingMusic]

I have the BRZ ts and I cannot stand the torque dip. That is my only complaint about power. In general, the speakers suck lol. That's about it. Great car.

[@Genevagirls-h2x]

@@WhirlingMusic and thats completely valid. You'd think they could've tuned it out. My point is it has the power it was designed to have though. Boys be like please give us a monster car, oh and btw, keep it at 30k.

[@S-Kidz]

I totally agree with how you described this platform . It's definitely a driver's car it's got that involved driving feel to it. Where a lot of modern cars make you feel very disconnected.

[@5thgearouttahere]

That's interesting, in Australia my 86 equivalent to the BRZ here comes on 17" with Primacys and the BRZ tS 18" & Pilot Sports. Another nice vid SA.

[@aaaafhy97]

Pretty happy with Brz Raiu on the speed academy day at Cayuga yesterday. The best lap time I did was 1.32. Will come back next year with sticker tires and see how it goes!

[@ninchalla_creates]

The brz and 86 were already confirmed for a next generation

[@devinallen827]

C.Bonsu Auto 240 horse, finally enough power for them

[@jhk8396]

@@devinallen827 I think 240-250hp is a perfect amount for this type of car. I just pray that they don't ruin the weight and look of the car.

[@jhk8396]

@Cinema Superhit honestly thats more than perfect for me, once again hoping they preserve the agility

[@kyleinprasueth8364]

damn they gave us 228

[@golding69]

I bought a 2020 BRZ tS -white. Best, most perfect car for me, reunites and balances everything i ever dreamed of in a car, including simplicity and even a trunk. Handles extremely well on my backcountry curves.. Came with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires. I actually like the unique, original sound of the engine that some reviewers criticize.

[@TankRust]

Great rippers at a low cost! Nice video as always!

[@rpurdey]

I fully agree with the other comments that suggested swapping wheels/tires and rerunning the comparison.

[@fenrisa.9156]

I !@#$ love you guys! I traded my '13 FRS for a '19 Mustang GT-p. For the amount of fuel it drinks, I realize you DON'T need 460hp to drive to work...daily! An 86 is also $10k less expensive, not to mention $26 fills the fuel tank ...once a week. I'm often temptet to return to the 86!

[@williamswink6170]

You should do it! I appreciate a nice Mustang but they do not seem nearly as fun of a car especially for the added costs...There is a good article out there where a guy did the opposite of you. He traded in a GT Mustang that he tracked for an FRS, more fun, less costs!

[@gtmike916]

Fenris A. I love the FRS/BRZ I’m just trying to save up money to buy one. It’s so damn fun and fulfilling to drive even with the automatic transmission. I could never say that for a Mustang or Camaro to be honest.

[@gtmike916]

William Swink I would have too, which is funny because I drove a 2013 FRS after I drove a 1SS 2016 Camaro. The FRS was WAY more fun to drive period. I have fun with the FRS at 35-40mph than I do with the Camaro @ 115 mph. Horsepower =/= happiness .

[@jponz85]

370z is more fun to drive.

[@bill11ringsrussell66]

GT Mike91 but which transmission is more reliable or are they reliable

[@colinmcdonell5034]

Dave - I seen and talked to you at the track yesterday for your KZbin callout. I would love to get a ride in your supercharged BRZ next time your at Cayuga. I originally met you at Fortinos in Ancaster

[@aBMWEnthusiast]

I thoroughly enjoyed the comparison, but it would be awesome to include a few exterior shots of the cars as you drift around the corners. Thanks for the great content!

[@ET_Videos]

I love my 86! They are so fun to drive and mod. I am 2 weeks into driving it boosted and although I like it better with more power, it's still a great car NA. Best bang for the buck is to keep it NA, go flex fuel/header/tune/oil cooler for the power side. Then spend the rest on tires, suspension, and driver mode/track time.

[@gigi9467]

Eric Timmer whats ur hp? How much u got invested in that car

[@henlolneh]

@@gigi9467 if you're boosting a 86, with tune, all of the air mods, you're looking at $8-10k. With the $8-10k, most boosted 86's see +80~100HP.

[@gigi9467]

ANIMALFRIES thats doesnt make sense when a v8 mustang could be had for 38k though..

[@gigi9467]

ANIMALFRIES i thought it was way cheaper

[@gigi9467]

Gandalf721 yea i believe u but geez ur in pony car prizes with ought the performance..

[@nicholaspatino2427]

One of the best reviews for the 86 platform I’ve ever seen

[@frmusta]

So great to see some more BRZ/86 action on the channel. Would have been cool to see you guys do a 3rd test swapping the 86 wheels+tires on the BRZ to get a real even test!

[@Xehanortlw]

I would love to have that trd 86

[@spencerb311]

MalikZaheerKnux I have one and it’s amazing

[@richardunderwood950]

Love the 86 content! Please keep it coming!

[@richardunderwood950]

@Jonathan Brea I have a 16 brz

[@AustinRexinger]

I also experienced a decent amount of understeer in my Toyota 86 at Toronto Motorsports Park. I was running 245/45/17 Bridgestone Potenza RE71R tires which make the car a lot less likely to oversteer, and the understeer went away when the tires got up to temp, but came back when they got too hot... as you said, depending on what you’re looking for, tires play a huge role. Great video.

[@d.mat.zero6525]

great video! im actually going to be buying one of thee soon. im feeling the BRZ mainly bc i think it has a better interior.

[@russ4AGE]

Hadouken! Great vid DP.

[@maverick2242]

BRZ for me, love that colour, also tires can easily be changed, for the price difference it’s allot of tire and fuel at the track or daily fun.

[@markarzuaga5690]

Thank you for the review and thank you for talking about the car the way you did. All to often with this platform it gets overlooked and talked down on by the people that claim to know cars. We have heard it all before "get over and tell us does it do what it was intended to do?" is all that I am thinking about. Here is a side kicker to that, the praise about the Miata (excluding the 2019 RF) has almost the exact same stats minus 300+lbs yet you never hear a peep about it being underpowered or lacks amenities yet it is and does.

[@AngelFloyd27]

It would be interesting to see the BRZ on Toyota's tires. Great video guys.

[@macsfishroom5272]

86 for me, engine swapped to full built na 3sge 200kw

[@Joolz1982]

Speed Academy Great comparison, I’m sure I heard TRD model has Sachs dampers suspension wise, and you are correct spring rates were changed generally on GT86 compared with BRZ. Interesting you say tires changed the character, in one of the Tada-San videos for 86 he said exactly that, in that the HP primacy tires give a certain character which is not quite the same with other tires.

[@therealboofighter]

Cool comparison. A camera on a case car or lead car would be cool to see.

[@93455Driver]

Totally agree, the best mod is the driver mod, the 86 power level was fine. When I owned the FR-S, though I am a crap driver, even I noted the torque dip.

[@CarStory]

The fact that you can use all the power all around the track makes these the perfect track cars. If only there was a track near me I would buy one.

[@Slow370Z]

I love these reviews

[@The_Animal_Man]

I had a monogram FRS and traded it for a wrx...its a bit heavier with more power but the natural driver feel of the FRS nothing can match it

[@HerbieMiata]

I so recognize that track. Toronto Motorsport Park in Cayuga. That’s the first track I drove my 2017 Toyota 86 on and it was such a treacherous rainy day. A 2016 Subaru BRZ showed up and we did a drift competition in the rain. It was so much fun.

[@cidfacetious3722]

Weird that the Subaru special edition gets a less sticky tire than the TRD given what they are trying to accomplish with the chassis you would think they would be switched

[@bennysegura6968]

Me being someone who owns a 2013 10 series frs and 2017 brz I can definitely agree that the 2 cars are very different crazy how between the newer and older generations just the size of the steering wheels makes a big difference between my ‘13 and ‘17 and not to mention that 5 extra hp from the aluminum manifold on the 17+

[@ericmeechglobalnetwork2273]

great analysis mate.. fun to watch. where I am I don't think that Toyota is available.. but I do see the Subaru around. Thanks.

[@lukasfoster8505]

I’ve got a lot of updating on my 86GT. Still a fun daily driving car.

[@MsJacob626]

Omg omg i have trd edition and this is perfect video

[@alexlafreniere6573]

Love my 2015 BRZ limited❤️

[@jdsim9173]

That 2019 BRZ is very similar to my 2018 86 thunder color. Is that 2018 TRD 86 you're driving a Canadian model, it's missing the TRD badging and decal

[@nigeljoycey5644]

I've got a 2015 brz Aozora edition which is basically the Raiu edition but from 2015. I love it more than my STi I had before even. Amazing car. I agree about the power, its plenty enough especially on a twisty road to get you in trouble. Just some headers and a tune to help with the torque dip and these things rip.

[@Ugar333]

Nice, I have a 2015 Toyota 86 and this year installed a stage 2 Avo turbo kit. Before that I had tried good headers, Exhaust and a tune But adding the turbo and a bunch of supporting mods, fuel pump, injectors, e85 It's definitely worth it. Takes this car to whole new level.

[@c.g.c2067]

I agree, power is not such an issue when you have a seriously sport car with a reasonable weight. 200hp is more than enough to have a good ride.

[@rommieoverton3847]

Too bad you didn't switch the tires and do the test again the

[@kalebthompson1]

That drift training with Riley really paid off for Dave! You can see how he’s just completely comfortable when the rear starts to slide. Well done Dave.

[@tomjones5860]

Outside BRZ looks better, both color & kit. TRD dash looks sick. “BRZ” on seats looks cheap & most of the red in 86 looks cheap. Conclusion. Buy used $10k Toyota 86 in a good color and upgrade to TRD dash pad, coilovers, pads, rims & tires

[@JimLahey1234]

Tom Jones who buys a cheaper trim and then trys to flex like its a higher one 🤣🤣 this isnt a bmw video

[@hadez438]

BRZ tS is more comparable to TRD 86, comes with nicer interior and with better tires.

[@PeloMR2]

I really need to try one of these. It's got to be much cheaper than tracking my RX-7!

[@alexmoore5970]

Yes yes, excellent content. But what we are really interested in is turbo 86 vs a PD 86, vs centrifugal supercharged 86. Same track, same wheels, similar power.

[@MattGreenland]

From the perspective of no car stays stock for any small amount of track duty: Unless the suspension setup/pick up points or something else significant is different between the two. Does the lap time performance of the car come before the price?

[@ThePilotGear]

Great review! I'm kinda surprised they don't offer barebone stripped versions of these cars (no radio, A/C, back seat, rear aero) at a reduced price. That's something I'd go for, personally. Already have a solid daily driver.

[@Fastvoice]

They did offer it - but only in Japan.

[@aceofspades6667]

Very enjoyable episode... I'd take an ND2 over either but still these are great driver's vehicles.

[@Jabin04]

Do the red orange yellow stripes on the doors come off? I like the TRD but its a little too tacky on the outside

[@cirros124]

Hello Speed Academy, thank you for the comparison video! I was wondering if you could compare the Subaru BRZ tS against the Toyota 86 TRD. They're so far the most track performance oriented versions offered by the manufacturers. They share same tires, however they seem to have drastic contrasts in other factors such as exhaust and aero. Thank you!

[@CheemengFyne]

TRD just looks better 🖤

[@blue04mx53]

I notice you go into turn one in 3rd gear. Is that the better way? I never know whether to be screaming in second or quite a bit under the rev limiter in 3rd.

[@WilliamLevesqueineX]

From what I've noticed, stock BRZ/FRS/86s all understeer a fair bit as soon as you put tyres on them. It's so easy to overdrive the Primacy's, it probably makes you think the car is oversteery, but in reality in steady cornering, there's push.

[@Marco-rw3ut]

Yes, stock brz/86 push like an audi, or more in my opinion, but with a good setup the car has a really good front grip for a McPherson platform. Anything less than - 1 degree of front camber is a perfect recipe for a lot of understeer on this platform and with R compound tyres the problem is bigger 'cause the rear multilink does a really good job, making a lot of rear traction that you can' t really use. Tyres + camber bolts should be the first mods on this cars, they really transform it.

[@WilliamLevesqueineX]

Not sure its quite as much as an Audi tho hahahaha. But yes. Buddy of mine runs -5.0 up front. Tried it so I could help him improve his setup, bolt-ons/tune and full aero kinda deal.

[@Marco-rw3ut]

@@WilliamLevesqueineX that's a huge value ahahha, mine is 100% street car but I'm happy with - 2 up front on semislick, tire temperatures are good also with a bit of toe-out 😅

[@chrismunsey3185]

BRZ for me please!! I like it better all the way around.👌🏽

[@mazhermuneer1097]

Did you guys notice a big difference between the sachs dampers vs the shocks on the base models?

[@mr.wiggles7535]

I think the BRZ looks amazing out of the two. The new color is really cool and overall, I think the BRZ is pretty nice.

[@andrem120]

Off topic for a second, do either of these 2 cars have a good automatic transmission?planning on getting one and keeping one for years. Itd be my second car. I've heard nissan auto cvt trans are very bad. I live in city so too many stops and red lights. And thank you

[@speedacademy]

They are great with auto trans. Would buy one in a heartbeat.

[@gigi9467]

The only thing i really hate about this cars is the flat engines, imagine this car with a honda sourced high tevving k engine o man

[@jasonpensy8043]

Or more RWD Hondas would be nice too

[@hammer86_]

I agree. If I ever blow my engine I will not be putting another FA20 in it.

[@gigi9467]

Jason Pensy i think we have a better chance of seeing pigs fly on that one lol

[@gigi9467]

cerberus65 as long as its stock or nothing over 250hp ur fine

[@Pete0126]

That is the weakness of this car. I have an 8th gen Si and want an 86/BRZ, but can't pull the trigger because I'd be downgrading the engine for a better chassis and spending way more $$. I'll just keep modding my 8th :)

[@conanthanoz19]

"Glossy Primer" color paint, then black with red stitching inside? I've seen Porsches in similar colors and they're only barely tolerable just because it has historical parallels to early era VW bugs.

[@eleazargarcia8920]

Would of been a better video if there was a camera out where the track is to see the car actually drift liked the video tho keep it up👍

[@mbuller5832]

Daughter had the exact TRD for four months before totaling it. "Lost control on a canyon road" Haven't got the exact story but assume she was testing the handling. I know for fact the traction control was off because she was new to stick shift and wanted hill assist on. Cant have both together. I MISS THAT CAR LIKE CRAZY!! I barely drove it but what little I did I tested the thing. That traction control, I dont know exactly what it was but when on it turned the car into a monster. I think it would have saved her if she had it on. The sound of shifting still in my head. I loved it. The speed was great. The look. The gas mileage. In this video the BRZ had the rear spoiler the TRD didnt. That spoiler adds traction. I loved the seats the steering. We also wanted to compare so we looked at the Subaru version. It looked better. They're equal depending on taste.

[@satan1280z]

I have the Hakone Edition

[@spongesurf12]

I love my 2013 FRS. Still fun today. A little wider wheels and tires, tune, catback and it’s great fun. I’ve also never understood why Miatas aren’t called underpowered yet the 86 is with similar power/weight ratio.

[@J2digital]

Man I like the interior of the Subaru so much better than the Toyota. I have a 2015 FRS and I will get around to replacing the seats/panels etc.

[@phant0]

Once again: More fun > More fast

[@BlackThorne]

that casual drifting

[@gtlegacy8]

Rather get s2k or s15.

[@CP110]

i prefer a stiff brake pedal over one with a lot of travel, because i like to modulate with pedal pressure over travel. besides that both cars are the same, you buy a good set of tires and wheels / coil overs both cars would react almost identical to one another. I find it weird that Subaru would make the cars handling limit lower, I get that it feels fun, but that's because you're going slower and therefore the car is easier to control, I feel that gives a false sense of the drivers actual car control.

[@chrisschenk_]

Should have done BRZ TS vs 86 TRD.

[@ACCAW11]

Was just about to post this. The TS is the real track attack version of the car. It would carry more speed through corners than the TRD version. It even comes with same tires as the TRD version.

[@gigi9467]

ItsJustAlex more track attack huh? Os that the one with a 5hp increase? Lol

[@chrisschenk_]

Jesus H Medrano that power doesn’t matter, it’s the arrow and r&d that went into the making of the ts. Aka tuned by sti.

[@hadez438]

tS / STI was about the same time as TRD / Apollo blue.

[@555_Kochi_STi]

Nice video. The BRZ Raiu should be pronounced (rye yu), like rye bread..

[@brandedhoomuns9563]

Adelino Palatino I don't think that car likes Rye Bread

[@spawn11]

Ya

[@stinoo8]

i still love my Toyota GT86 Aero ( EU spec)

[@grantkahale8933]

Swap the wheels around that way you know which one is the better car as you get to test out both on same tyre.

[@ZorroinArkham]

The most important KZbin video for Initial D fans.

[@fyzikal5]

In 5 years when my 12 year old brother turns 17-18 imma buy him a GT86 since he loves the AE86

[@Antonio-hk4rv]

i love the 86, nothing can make you feel better the look and the feel!!!!

[@psewgobind]

Seems like the tuning on the A86 would be spot on if it had an extra 50hp (or snow condition with good winter tires). That way you can dial-in over-steer with the throttle, which for me is the entire point of having a rear drive. I'm not a fan of the go-cart tuning when all my driving is on the street.

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

I miss my '17 BRZ.

[@kamenskull4407]

I have trd I’m about to go hks turbo, bagged, and 326FBK. But I would still buy other version like the brz one and then a scion frs

[@aaronbryan5095]

Hey Speed Academy, are you looking forward to the next generation 86/BRZ?

[@gigi9467]

Aaron Bryan i am as long as its not over 28k

[@Jyxrr]

Jesus H Medrano if it’s more than 200hp it will be that’s what everyone doesn’t realize

[@gigi9467]

Hollow thats fine just dont give us a shity subaru engine gives a nice reevving nice sounding reliable engine like the miata.

[@aaronbryan5095]

@@gigi9467 you mean like an AP2 S2000 😉. Ok, jokes aside Toyota needs to be much more involved in the powertrain development of this next generation 86/BRZ because they are the ones that knows how to make high performance naturally aspirated engines, not Subaru. The current 86/BRZ engine is mostly Subaru except for its fuel injection system, which is Toyota's D4-S.

[@idokwatcher2062]

@@Jyxrr Maybe, or maybe they don't want to detract from any WRX and Supra sales. Who wouldn't want 80% of the fun for half the money.

[@hanfei6871]

Are they finally finally faster than Prius?

[@abc.garage]

I love these cars

[@npaul4171]

I don't understand why the Raiu didn't get the Pilot Sport 4s or PSS. The tS got the 4s. I've read opinions that argue it is more fun with the Primacys, but I personally liked my BRZ sooooo much more when I upgraded to a tire with more grip.

[@HoofHearted2DAY]

Love my 86

[@Wynorrific]

Not the last editions as they introduced the new editions a bit later in 2019. The BRZ gets another tS version but it's no where close to how cool the 2018 tS was and the 86 gets the Hakone edition but I think that's mostly cosmetic. However, Toyota and Subaru announced a 2nd gen in the works as Subaru and Toyota begin to make more cars together

[@Dark17731]

if i wasnt so god damn broke I'd get one within a heart beat.

[@pFbSpecV]

Either way impressive time for stock cars!!

[@787brx8]

I don't design anymore but I have A prototype that reduces knock.

[@BrendanEvan]

Both really great cars but wow those stickers prices are high.

[@nrg3k]

What’s the difference between the BRZ “track” mode and all traction control off?

[@tumsfestival8027]

I think “track” mode is the in-between between normal mode and all off. It allows alittle spin. Weird right?

[@TheBigDanois]

Track mode is stupid, limited and annoying, no one uses it, ESPECIALY (ironicly) on a track. Real men turn everything off.

[@snupermoto723]

you could swap it, or try hitting an apex..... kidding, great video.

[@raymondkoledoye9941]

TRD 86 🙌🙌🙌

[@thomasbrandon8029]

Who knew the "new" version of a 240z would be made by toyota and subaru and not nissan. This car captures what made the 240z such a great car far more than the 350z-370z ever did.

[@darkstarVIII]

Push probably came from a larger diameter wheel being on the 18s.... vs the brz in a 17. That and the need for more throttle input per steering angle due to a larger and stickier tire. Dunno just a former canyon hooligan

[@remyche8768]

The AE86 generation of the Toyota Corolla Levin and Toyota Sprinter Trueno is a small, lightweight coupe introduced by Toyota in 1983 as part of the fifth generation Toyota Corolla lineup. ... The word "trueno" is Spanish for thunder, and "levin" is Old English for "lightning" Toché to Subaru for calling it raiu because thunder comes before the lighting, unless they just keeping it all same same

[@iiXtcy]

An exhaust would add hp! Especially on a turbo