Subaru Forester AWD Slip / Roller test | with and without X-Mode!

[@CarQuestion]

Subaru Forester AWD Slip test note: Best results are achieved by enabling X-mode and letting the traction control system ( TCS ) on. Even if the Subaru Forester slides from the roller or smokes the tires, you can see that it can send traction where needed but with a delay vs the competition! We miss the time we had a rear Limited Slip Differential in those Subaru! We have more for you soon, a real off-road diagonal test on dirt and grass!

[@downhillskier7]

The earlier Subarus earn the rep to be able to go where other 4 wheelers couldn't make it up the hill because of front and rear LSD and center locking diff. Subaru is now relying on the electronics to hold the wheel that is spinning to transfer the power to the wheel that has grip. It will work on street driven applications but not so much for 4 wheeling or rock crawling where you want each wheel to be turning when in the air..

[@TMS5100]

@@downhillskier7 subaru cheaped out. it's sad to see what's happened to the brand.

[@MacelleriaMarsilli]

3:20 car has no faults, system is working well

[@mrregik]

No traction

[@zacharyreynolds4303]

system is working yes but it still didn't do it. that's the important part. maybe with a different weight distribution or heavier body like in a Tesla would it have been able to make it with enough traction. a lesson that maybe bags of sand or something like that is still a useful trick. that's the reason these tests are conducted, not to see if all the wheels drive on a car that's AWD. But yes you are right, the system did work on the brand new car.

[@marcjean5051]

Effectivement, je serais intéressé de voir le S-AWC de Mitsubishi. Merci et bravo pour votre excellent travail !

[@erikpenabella599]

Subarus have got to be the best when it comes to all these and real world tests.

[@freedom_foz_6337]

You’re a saint! Thank you for this-you reminded me how much my articulation limits my grip!!

[@niuhuskieguy]

Looks like tires and suspension unloading may have been issues on the one wheel test as enough power was being sent to the other to make it spin on dry pavement. TFLcar had the same thing happen to an Outback they tested.

[@92roadie]

Careful Subaru will blacklist you. lol

[@subazealand9158]

Wtf the comments here? Bad?? It sends power to the wheels with grip so well that even that one spins a bit. Funny to read comments already saying is bad because of the CVT... There's nothing wrong on this test...

[@takuyatanaka5587]

I’m fairly certain that’s the meth talking, bud. It’s WELL documented how the cvt limits torque and the awd algorithms do not allocate power effectively. Multiple media sites on KZbin prove this time and time again.

[@thelegendbullet937]

​@@takuyatanaka5587 Yes the CVT sucks, but to be fair in this test it at least, it passed every aspect and was even spinning the only tire with traction on dry pavement... you can't really ask anything more than that. Even 4x4 with lockers would have had the same outcome here with the one tire traction limitation. Now... on an uneven hill in the real world, the CVT will just shut down and you don't move. That is the fatal crutch of Subaru's off road potential :(

[@Bebopin-69]

These tests should be done at a lower speed, so to see the true finess of the slip management, if such thing there is

[@toshiyam2853]

Many comments are misunderstood. When the x-mode text on the screen is red, offroad mode is not working.

[@LionRunner]

I'd love to see how good Subaru AWD is compared to other systems like Honda i-vtm4, Acura sh-awd, BMW x-drive, Toyota TV-AWD, etc.. Pretty much compare with torque vectoring awd systems. It would be useless comparing with non torque vectoring awd systems.

[@takuyatanaka5587]

Others awd systems now surpass Subaru’s ability. Until Subaru ditches the cvt, they will have a subpar awd system. Simply cannot transfer enough torque like the other vehicles you mentioned. Cheers.

[@441meatloaf]

@@takuyatanaka5587 outback wilderness proves you wrong

[@jessebrinker3706]

@@441meatloaf how? It's got the same problems as every other Subaru, except it has an extra .8 inches of ground clearance lol

[@441meatloaf]

@@jessebrinker3706 What problems are you even talking about? Wilderness is even more rugged and better tuned torque for climbing.

[@sledforpeace]

Serait vraiment intéressant d'avoir un comparatif entre la traction S-AWC du nouveau Outlander vs la traction du Nissan Rogue.

[@redhornet5785]

Why no L mode transmission?

[@zero2sixty244]

Can you do SH-AWD next?

[@downhillskier7]

Subaru needs to add front and rear LSD or the CVT is going to over heat and fail during one automotive youtuber's testing

[@batuhanklnc27]

Very good

[@inferno1zx]

What are those rollers? Where did you get them?

[@BioniqBob]

Google

[@l...]

Please what is the traction grade of the tires

[@OutdoorFun01]

Oh ya!!!

[@DavidDLee]

Looks like the Forester weasel its way off the rollers by causing one wheel spin faster then the other on the same axle and thereby causing the vehicle to turn slightly and then catch the edge of the rollers and not by transferring enough power to the wheel on pavement. The smoking tire was an unexpected result: somehow there was not enough weight on that wheel.

[@sanjayvishwanathan1735]

TFL guys should watch this as they keep bashing Subaru awd .... as Subaru stopped loaning them cars.

[@Pombinhoecia]

The tire that was touching the ground have no enough grip to move the car

[@Volta24]

In his class Forester have The best 4x4. And The Wilderness îs a little better. Then came RAV4 plug in 300hp, and Ford,Jeep, Land ROVER ....my opinion. 😜

[@austinsmith4657]

I would love to see a Jeep Renegade tested!

[@Jack.driver]

It was tested by 4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel, no problems at all.

[@bernardboutet378]

Hate de voir un test similaire avec mitsubishi,

[@lilpeppa117G]

Needs turbo

[@jovandjukic5923]

want to see Jeep Compass here on test

[@SnakeFreeChannel]

They were going to but it broke down on the way to the test.

[@EngiNetion]

@@SnakeFreeChannel xD

[@zogadwoe]

Can you elaborate on the rear slip differential on the subaru?

[@Carlos-jh5tb]

There is no limited slip

[@TMS5100]

none, its purely electronic using brake application

[@Liris777]

I guess we have the new benchmark for roller tests and diagonals... Bronco haven't we? the king is dead, long live the king

[@subazealand9158]

How can you compare with a Bronco. Even on the years where you think Subaru was the king, Land Rover already had a superior system, but hey... nobody pointed that because was comparing pears and apples, but funny now to see how people expect Subaru to be all of a sudden a Ford Bronco, a 4Runmer TRD..lol. Put on the rollers a standard RAV4 (no adventure, no TRD, because this is a base Forester), put a Nissan Rouge, put the real competitors and tell me how bad is Subaru doing again.

[@subazealand9158]

I think because people used to know what to compare Subaru with, is that people have been expecting an evolution of the system to get it close to what we see on a Bronco, Jeep Trailhawk. I agree CVT is not the best combo, but the AWD system still taking me with same confidence as it did in the past to places where the real competitors won't give same confidence. If you really want to do hardcore Off Road lucky you have more options now than years ago. Good luck with Ford's reliability by the way.

[@TMS5100]

And yet the Ford Bronco Sport wipes the floor with this subaru. Subaru has become complacent!

[@andrewmeehan6151]

Sales numbers tell a different story. Ford + turbos equals lots of repairs.

[@TMS5100]

@@andrewmeehan6151 my 2011 STI was a repair money hole.

[@takuyatanaka5587]

@@andrewmeehan6151 Lmao. Dude you’re high. Subaru has been a money pit for years. Head gaskets, cvt’s, axles, oil consumption. Subaru is literally the Chrysler of Japan. Get real

[@andrewmeehan6151]

@@takuyatanaka5587 so that’s why they have so many repeat buyers and customer loyalty. Ford is already having power train nightmares with those.

[@norincofan1949]

@@takuyatanaka5587 resale values don't lie...

[@zero2sixty244]

I’m not really disappointed but Im not impressed

[@takuyatanaka5587]

Subaru trolls are fuming at your comment. Truth is, Subaru has not been impressive for years. Mitsubishi, Jeep, Ford, Acura….and so on, all have awd systems that surpass Subaru’s ability.

[@timberlinecline3667]

How mush oil did the engine burn doing this test also let's check the head gasket 🤣🤣😂

[@gardenst4398]

Toyota collab 20% with Subaru....traded Toyota awd into Subaru🤪🤪

[@takuyatanaka5587]

Too bad Subaru didn’t get Toyota reliability!

[@clou1969]

It’s time for Subaru to go back to their design. Competition start to easily outclass the Subaru symmetrical AWD algorithm.

[@carllovullo6602]

Ford with the Bronco Sport has a way better system than this!

[@freedom_foz_6337]

Ya it has an E locker

[@carllovullo6602]

@@freedom_foz_6337 That's true, but only in the back not infront

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Another example of how Subaru is now trailing the competition in awd system prowess. The cvt, poor software algorithms, etc. Hard pass.

[@aguiremedia]

What’s better that’s just as or more reliable?

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

@@aguiremedia reliable? Literally almost anything. Subaru is basically the Chrysler of Japan.

[@midoriyaizuku4403]

@@aguiremedia RAV4

[@midoriyaizuku4403]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 that would be Nissan. Subaru ain’t that bad.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

@@midoriyaizuku4403 nah it’s Subaru, bud. Nissan actually made decent, reliable cars in the past. Subaru has had reliability issues since being introduced in the United States. Subaru’s success is solely based upon captive marketing, which is extremely successful. But with captive marketing is the unfortunate consequence of little to no desire to make something durable or reliable.